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Bksabath
01-09-2021, 08:02
Watch this !!!
Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM)
And This
Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM)
Stryder5
01-09-2021, 12:49
What Peter McCullough said was that only the “vaccine” had been sought to be the defence against getting the virus.
Treatment for people that were already suffering from the virus was not pursued, hence people became more ill, hospitalisation, perhaps death ensued.
What he said was that the Worlds medical practitioners had allowed this to happen.
You need to understand what he intimated but left unsaid.
I leave it to you!
Gary
the usual isnt up yet but these are figures...
Scottish numbers: 1 September 2021
Summary
6,170 new cases of COVID-19 reported
57,279 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.5% of these were positive
9 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
59 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
629 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,108,804 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,691,066 have received their second dose
Bksabath
01-09-2021, 15:27
What Peter McCullough said was that only the “vaccine” had been sought to be the defence against getting the virus.
Treatment for people that were already suffering from the virus was not pursued, hence people became more ill, hospitalisation, perhaps death ensued.
What he said was that the Worlds medical practitioners had allowed this to happen.
You need to understand what he intimated but left unsaid.
I leave it to you!
Gary
And he is not the only one
Is Using Ivermectin to Treat COVID Really Safe for Everyone? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHdZJI6UK8)
Articles like the one I have posted on post 8748 are all over the place
If the virus escaped the lab ;) Fauci and co have dictated how our governments responded to it from the early stages Big pharma and such are cashing in, the media which they have in the pockets promoted this while our PM told you to sing happy birthday and now as they pleaded to the common sense of the population, are not longer responsible for it
An all has been politicized, see quote on article on post 8748 about "right wing circles"
Our own Chris Whitty wrote a research paper about the use of Ivermectin against River Blindness years ago why he is keeping silent about it ???????????????????????????????
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 35,693 (32,181).
Deaths: 207 (50).
Hospitalisations: 842 (901).
As expected, after the delay in updating data over the bank holiday, the death figure has notably increased. However, I suspect much of that is made up of the lag over the holiday weekend, so would expect that figure to reduce significantly tomorrow, in line with the general downward trend.
New cases and hospitalisations remain fairly stable, which is good, with the former also starting to show a downward trend. We'll see where we are tomorrow.
In wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 3328 (3872)
Deaths: 5 (1).
Marco.
lower hospital cases as so many died likely. cases half the scottish, but deaths are double. i take it uks hospitalisations are either mostly scottish or they are new cases..
7500 + in hospital in uk so that must have been new admissions
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lower hospital cases as so many died likely. cases half the scottish, but deaths are double. i take it uks hospitalisations are either mostly scottish or they are new cases..
No idea, mate. Just displaying the official stats and telling it as I see it:)
I guess deaths are double because England is double the size of Scotland;)
Marco.
7500 + in hospital in uk so that must have been new admissions
Indeed. However, it's the new admissions figure that's key, in order to show whether things are getting worse or not, and they're not. They're remaining relatively stable, as new admissions peaked at 980 some weeks back and have hovered around the 800/900 mark since:)
Marco.
No idea, mate. Just displaying the official stats and telling it as I see it:)
I guess deaths are double because England is double the size of Scotland;)
Marco.
uk is about 10 times population of scotland.
England is 56 million Scotland 5.5 million. Whole of UK 68 million.
yup, for quick sums moving the decimilal point works well enough to get the idea on comparison. ie 50 scottish to 500 uk aprox
uk is about 10 times population of scotland.
Yeah of course... It was a tongue-in-cheek comment, playing on the word 'double'!:)
Marco.
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 38,154 (35,693).
Deaths: 178 (207).
Hospitalisations: 848 (842).
As suspected, the death figure has reduced since yesterday, and I'd expect it be similar (or slightly less) tomorrow. New cases remain stable, as do hospitalisations (new admissions), so things are still well under control. I predict a general downwards trend for the rest of the month, although schools returning in England and Wales may temporarily push up the figures.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2275 (3328)
Deaths: 5 (5).
Marco.
scotland..
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/45E8/production/_120369871_bbcpostcardpress.jpg
Summary
6,400 new cases of COVID-19 reported
61,410 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.1% of these were positive
17 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
55 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
624 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,111,513 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,699,250 have received their second dose
Still rife up there then, mate.
Marco
Still rife up there then, mate.
Marco
alas, yes.. a lot of it is young folk but older folk are catching it off them i think. then a vurnable catches it and they mostly cop it alas.
just have to keep my head down a bit longer. i was out in car; filled it up too and used a cash machine with mask on, but it was a struggle walking on sticks with mask..
still i did make it without collapse.. asthma was starting to play up tho.
Good that you're getting out and about a bit, which will improve your fitness and have a knock-on positive effect on everything else. Just be careful and don't fall!:)
It's not worth it, unless you've earned the right when you're pished!:D
Marco.
Good that you're getting out and about a bit, which will improve your fitness and have a knock-on positive effect on everything else. Just be careful and don't fall!:)
It's not worth it, unless you've earned the right when you're pished!:D
Marco.
not drinking at moment.. being good.;)
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Summary
6,711 new cases of COVID-19 reported
58,534 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
12.1% of these were positive
10 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
60 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
653 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,114,552 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,709,328 have received their second dose
The only good thing I guess that the new cases figure doesn't seem to be getting any worse. Hopefully, the situation up there will get better soon. but it might take a month or so before that happens.
Today's stats elsewhere in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 42,076 (38,154).
Deaths: 121 (178).
Hospitalisations: 985 (848).
From yesterday:
As suspected, the death figure has reduced since yesterday, and I'd expect it be similar (or slightly less) tomorrow.
...and so it is (at 121). I'd expect around that level, and perhaps up to 150, to be the average daily figure for deaths, for sometime going forward, before it reduces, but I wouldn't expect it to get over 250, and nothing like the 800+ we had in Jan/Feb.
However, new cases are still rising, and that's something that must be watched, as we don't want that to get out of control, which I wouldn't expect to happen. We're currently seeing a spike, that's all, ditto with hospitalisations (new admissions).
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2391 (2275)
Deaths: 6 (5).
Marco.
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Summary
6,152 new cases of COVID-19 reported
51,031 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
12.9% of these were positive
11 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
58 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
670 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,117,147 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,717,587 have received their second dose
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 37,578 (38,154).
Deaths: 120 (178).
Hospitalisations: 985 (848).
Usual lower weekend figures, expect that for hospitalisations (new admissions), which reflects the current prominence of the virus among the population. Still not spiraling out of control though, but one to watch.
We'll see what the real deal is on Tuesday.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2391 (2275)
Deaths: 6 (5).
Marco.
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Summary
6,368 new cases of COVID-19 reported
48,033 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
14.2% of these were positive
0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends)
61 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
719 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,121,962 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,726,769 have received their second dose
No deaths.. That's good!;)
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 37,011 (37,578).
Deaths: 68 (120).
Hospitalisations: 985 (985).
Figures obviously lower at the weekend, but there appears to be a sustained general downturn in the number of deaths, which although will likely be higher than today's figure, I'd expect to be replicated on Tuesday. Everything else remains stable.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2389 (2391)
Deaths: 3 (6).
Marco.
Bksabath
06-09-2021, 07:07
Mexico City says ivermectin reduced hospitalizations between 52 and 76%
Mexico City says ivermectin reduced hospitalizations between 52 and 76% - Archyde (https://www.archyde.com/mexico-city-says-ivermectin-reduced-hospitalizations-between-52-and-76/)
COVID deaths plunge after Mexico City introduces ivermectin | Principia Scientific Intl. (principia-scientific.com) (https://principia-scientific.com/covid-deaths-plunge-after-mexico-city-introduces-ivermectin/)
India's Uttar Pradesh Moving Towards Being Covid-free, Ivermectin Central To Virus Control | Covid Call To Humanity (https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/08/19/indias-uttar-pradesh-moving-towards-being-covid-free-ivermectin-central-to-virus-control/)
Trusted News Initiative Or Corrupted News Initiative? Mission: Systematic Censorship Of The World's Top Public Health Experts | Covid Call To Humanity (https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/08/18/trusted-news-initiative-or-corrupted-news-initiative-mission-systematic-censorship-of-the-worlds-top-public-health-experts/)
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 41,192 (37,011).
Deaths: 45 (68).
Hospitalisations: 988 (985).
As predicted, deaths appear to be on downward trend. Yes, I expect the figure to be higher tomorrow (due to the usual delay in updating data over the weekend), but I wouldn't expect it to get much above 100, and wouldn't be surprised if it were less.
Again, new cases and hospitalisations remain stable. As I've said, I'd expect them to remain at current levels for the next month or so, before reducing significantly, which I'm certain will happen.
It's simply a matter of time now for it to reach the stage where everyone (vaccinated or otherwise) who's going to become infected with Covid, to do so and hopefully survive, thus strengthening their immune response, so that should they become infected again, the effects won't be as severe.
That's the natural way now for both new cases and hospitalisations to fall!:cool:
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 5161 (2389).
Deaths: 8 (3).
Looks like we're now starting to see a similar spike in cases in Wales, as there is in Scotland.
Marco.
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Summary
7,065 new cases of COVID-19 reported
52,193 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
14.5% of these were positive
0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are generally closed at weekends)
71 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
771 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,126,263 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,736,762 have received their second dose
anthonyTD
07-09-2021, 12:58
Natural immunity easily up to 13 times more affective at protecting you from watever Covid is than any of the death shots!
Sorry, but its time people opened their eyes as to what might really be making folk ill, a virus is a message sent along [with other elements of the immune system ie; T and B cells] to kill and remove toxic cells from your body, it is not the cause of the disease, Throw stones at me, and any and all other accusations, but sooner or later [i hope its sooner] people will know the truth, but unitill then i suspect many of you will gladly hold out your arms for a third and fourth, and fifth and who knows how many more shots until your immune system becomes so messed up that you become permanently ill, or worse.
Sorry folks, i have bitten my tongue long enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:steam ::steam::steam:
Food for thought, mate...
Marco.
anthonyTD
07-09-2021, 14:00
https://www.thebernician.net/the-deception-of-virology-vaccines-why-coronavirus-is-not-contagious-2/
Food for thought, mate...
Marco.
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Summary
5,692 new cases of COVID-19 reported
46,146 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
13.2% of these were positive
16 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
77 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
805 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,128,998 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,742,826 have received their second dose
Another lockdown coming :(
As soon as a government spokesperson goes on the news to say "we have no plans to ........", you can be sure that it is a strong possibility:)
Another lockdown coming :(
As soon as a government spokesperson goes on the news to say "we have no plans to ........", you can be sure that it is a strong possibility:)
Nah, don't see it... A lockdown because of the infection rate? Not going to happen, unless deaths and hospitalisations rise dramatically, close to the levels we seen in Jan/Feb.
Note, from Grant's post, how the new cases figure in Scotland has fallen, simply because they've probably had their big spike. Now it could be the turn of England and Wales. However, there's no sign of a significant (sustained) spike there yet...
Today's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below): https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Positive tests: 37,489 (37,011).
Deaths: 209 (68).
Hospitalisations: 905 (985).
I was wrong about the deaths being lower today, even with the usual 'Tuesday hike', as a result of catching up with the data over the weekend. Clearly, the downward trend in deaths isn't as marked as I'd thought.
However, a large part of that 209 will represent the 'catch up', so I'm pretty sure it'll fall by around 50 tomorrow, thus reflect the real situation, which is that deaths haven't gone over 300 per day at all during this wave of the pandemic, and currently remain on average at 180 or so. New cases remain stable, but hospitalisations (new admissions) are down.
Therefore, the situation isn't getting out of control, and I see nothing in the data to prompt a lockdown.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2504 (5161)
Deaths: 3 (9).
So cases have also gone down in Wales:)
Marco.
dont see it either; at moment anyway. might be some alterations to how it is but nothing drastic are my feelings
dont see it either; at moment anyway. might be some alterations to how it is but nothing drastic are my feelings
Again, me neither, as quite simply there's nothing currently in the data to justify a lockdown. Could you expand though on what you mean by the bit in bold?:)
Marco.
Again, me neither, as quite simply there's nothing currently in the date to justify a lockdown. Could you expand though on what you mean by the bit in bold?:)
Marco.
well distancing or masks at a push could be reinstated in england.. wales and scotland still have them i think. that sort of thing, but even then it will need to be worse than current figures. the use of covid passes at footy etc maybe
Yup, I agree with the former and the points you've made there. In terms of the latter, yes I heard about that crap (you know my views on such matters), and apparently it's going to be voted on in the Commons, with I suspect much opposition from human rights/civil liberties groups and others.
It's bullshit and discriminatory, of course, the former because as has been proven, vaccines do next to nowt to prevent the spread of the virus, so who are they protecting, and what exactly do they hope to achieve with 'Covid passes' at said venues?
And the latter because I presume said passes will no doubt be produced via an app, so what about the folks without smartphones, particularly all the old boys who go to watch games - what are they going to do??:rolleyes:
Marco.
I hope that you are both right - it's just that as soon as any government uses the phrase "no plans for" I get worried :)
Yes, it just means that they can't (or won't) rule anything out, which of course they can't do if the situation changes.
Marco.
Stryder5
07-09-2021, 20:13
I don’t think the general masses want to know how they have been duped and brainwashed into believing the virus named Covid exists. The only saviour being a vaccine .
When before have people had a diagnosis and told to go home and die, no treatment known, all attempts to create a sequence of drugs (as in Cancer treatment) were aborted. Only drugs in singularity were tried, and the conclusion reached they don’t work so nothing works. Why?
The first and second vaccines seem to have limited effect....further doses frequency? Not killed enough yet?
I know intelligence and common sense are not bedfellows.
Our government is now back tracking on pledges, what now on the odds of “not reversing” return of mandatory activities and lockdown?
Gary
Natural immunity easily up to 13 times more affective at protecting you from watever Covid is than any of the death shots!
Sorry, but its time people opened their eyes as to what might really be making folk ill, a virus is a message sent along [with other elements of the immune system ie; T and B cells] to kill and remove toxic cells from your body, it is not the cause of the disease, Throw stones at me, and any and all other accusations, but sooner or later [i hope its sooner] people will know the truth, but unitill then i suspect many of you will gladly hold out your arms for a third and fourth, and fifth and who knows how many more shots until your immune system becomes so messed up that you become permanently ill, or worse.
Sorry folks, i have bitten my tongue long enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:steam ::steam::steam:
mad-moon
08-09-2021, 06:28
Natural immunity easily up to 13 times more affective at protecting you from watever Covid is than any of the death shots!
Sorry, but its time people opened their eyes as to what might really be making folk ill, a virus is a message sent along [with other elements of the immune system ie; T and B cells] to kill and remove toxic cells from your body, it is not the cause of the disease, Throw stones at me, and any and all other accusations, but sooner or later [i hope its sooner] people will know the truth, but unitill then i suspect many of you will gladly hold out your arms for a third and fourth, and fifth and who knows how many more shots until your immune system becomes so messed up that you become permanently ill, or worse.
Sorry folks, i have bitten my tongue long enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:steam ::steam::steam:
What is the truth? and what is your source? I'm very intereted in this post..why have you waited so long to make this claim...?
anthonyTD
08-09-2021, 09:16
Hi Alan,
My advice to those of you wanting to know the answer to your question is to do your own research, there is an abundance of information out there if you look, you wont get the truth from any of the main media, but i think many folk here have already realised that by now, the mere fact that none of the major protests going on around the world have had little or no air time on the main stream news should be a wake up call in itself! I have been quiet for months on this subject here because speaking out against the madness being discussed here, especialy from those who i had hoped would have more sense was becoming to much to bear.
Here's another one to ponder over; people quieing up outside covid testing centers chatting away with no apparent symptoms, why ??? when have we ever gone to the docs and asked for an Xray or antibiotics or any kind of medication or test without having any symptoms that would lead the Doc to assume that you have an illness, come on folks wake up do your OWN research and end this madness!!!
In the meantime keep taking Vitamin C, D3, and Zink.
PCR does not tell you you are sick Dr. Kary Mullis inventor of the PCR test.
What is the truth? and what is your source? I'm very intereted in this post..why have you waited so long to make this claim...?
Hi Alan,
............................
Here's another one to ponder over; people quieing up outside covid testing centers chatting away with no apparent symptoms, why ??? when have we ever gone to the docs and asked for an Xray or antibiotics or any kind of medication or test without having any symptoms that would lead the Doc to assume that you have an illness, come on folks wake up do your OWN research and end this madness!!!
In the meantime keep taking Vitamin C, D3, and Zink.
Agree about taking vitamin C and Zinc - when I was teaching, I kept on getting colds/occasional flu,so I started taking a soluble supplement every morning and Vitamin D most of the year (out of desperation :)) and it seemed to work. It is now part of my routine.
However, I have no symptoms of an illness at present (thankfully) but have had tests for cholesterol level (high, so started eating more nuts and oats, trying to lay off "fatty" foods but I think my cholesterol level is influenced by my genetic make up) and for prostate cancer (sensible thing to do in my opinion, thankfully all clear).
If I were to wait for symptoms, odds would be very much stacked against me.
Over the years, with no symptoms, I have had Tetanus, BCG etc and most recently Covid vaccinations.
Both daughters have had HPV vaccination. Wife and daughters have smear tests and checks for breast cancer - all with no symptoms.
Also fell off my pushbike a few years ago and had a had x-ray (chipped lunate bone) which showed early signs of arthritis, so something was found which was not related to my "condition".
Eminently sensible to have diagnostic testing and preventative medicine/courses of action in my opinion.
anthonyTD
08-09-2021, 10:18
Hi Guy,
And those tests were your choice, my point is this; go back 2 years, if we had symptoms of cold flu, we stayed home, if we didnt have any symptoms, we went about our business, that's my point!
Agree about taking vitamin C and Zinc - when I was teaching, I kept on getting colds/occasional flu,so I started taking a soluble supplement every morning and Vitamin D most of the year (out of desperation :)) and it seemed to work. It is now part of my routine.
However, I have no symptoms of an illness at present (thankfully) but have had tests for cholesterol level (high, so started eating more nuts and oats, trying to lay off "fatty" foods but I think my cholesterol level is influenced by my genetic make up) and for prostate cancer (sensible thing to do in my opinion, thankfully all clear).
If I were to wait for symptoms, odds would be very much stacked against me.
Over the years, with no symptoms, I have had Tetanus, BCG etc and most recently Covid vaccinations.
Both daughters have had HPV vaccination. Wife and daughters have smear tests and checks for breast cancer - all with no symptoms.
Also fell off my pushbike a few years ago and had a had x-ray (chipped lunate bone) which showed early signs of arthritis, so something was found which was not related to my "condition".
Eminently sensible to have diagnostic testing and preventative medicine/courses of action in my opinion.
anthonyTD
08-09-2021, 10:27
Just one example of the risks and injuries involved with these procedures!
18 to 24 year old stats is quite telling!
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not got all scottish pics yet but this is the basics
Summary
5,810 new cases of COVID-19 reported
57,128 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
10.8% of these were positive
17 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
82 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
883 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,130,841 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,749,767 have received their second dose
Hi Guy,
And those tests were your choice, my point is this; go back 2 years, if we had symptoms of cold flu, we stayed home, if we didnt have any symptoms, we went about our business, that's my point!
Hi Anthony,
fair enough, but you did pose the question "When have we ever gone to the docs and asked........."
Just one example of the risks and injuries involved with these precedures!
18 t0 24 year old stats is quite telling!
To make a sensible decision on the relative risks one would need to compare with deaths associated with Covid infection over the same time period and by same age groups - by the way where is jpeg from, also is it UK cases or worldwide?
anthonyTD
08-09-2021, 19:19
I will get Marco or one of the other guys to bring it up to the full size i think the info is on there.
To make a sensible decision on the relative risks one would need to compare with deaths associated with Covid infection over the same time period and by same age groups - by the way where is jpeg from, also is it UK cases or worldwide?
Cheers - I tried but couldn't read the bottom notes (old age/crap eyesight/13"screen etc)
Bksabath
09-09-2021, 06:11
Today stats
My local Trashco
35647 vegetables on the counters
4987 and 1/2 mushrooms
782 onions
192 rotten
:eyebrows:
Facts
Vaccines may stop the most severe outcomes
They do not stop the Fauci virus from spreading as more people may be contagious as asymptomatic
The immunity level they provide is not as good as catching the infection and repeated doses may be needed
Current Vaccines only act on limited part of the virus and mutations are possible causing by natural selection to evolve the virus on to vaccine resistant strains.
They do zips for the over 3 million peoples that have immune suppression disorders such as HIV
Side effects are unknown and require many years of study
They generate vast income for the big Pharma companies
Big pharma’s dictate what organisation such as WHO CDC and MHRA NIH tell you
Big mainstream media, the BBC foremost, are engaged in the suppression of any data that may give rise on “conspiracy and miss information” or what is not dictated by the organisations that should have your interest at hart ( WHO CDC NIH MHRA)
This is blocking any study for other possible treatment and prophylactics that may contribute towards better recovery and reduction of the RO
Your government lies
What I would like to se is daily science based advise on how to better cope whit this endemic such as
Take vitamins, have test for Vitamin D deficiency, take actions to stop co-morbidity such as and primary Obesity and Diabetes
What one can do about it?
Post daily as this
Stop any purchase of Chinese goods when possible and when harassed by Chines companies tell them that you have suspended any purchase of Chinese goods due to the current situation and lack of transparency
Invest same time looking for alternative information and post links.
Any single death is one death to many !!!!
Watch this !!!!
Ivermectin Toxicity Reviewed - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATiX0-2PEr4)
Bksabath
09-09-2021, 06:34
And this
is Ivermectin the solution to the Covid-19 pandemic? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiPWOyBI-A)
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 09:12
People need to start thinking in a more logical way, and listen to the many credible medical and scientific people who are coming forward and telling you what they know, and sharing their concerns, many of these people have lost a great deal in doing so, but they have a concience, something that seems to be lacking in the many perperatators involved in all of this.
Bksabath
09-09-2021, 10:22
People need to start thinking in a more logical way, and listen to the many credible medical and scientific people who are coming forward and telling you what they know, and sharing their concerns, many of these people have lost a great deal in doing so, but they have a concience, something that seems to be lacking in the many perperatators involved in all of this.
100 %
amongst the many things I would like to see is our own Chris Whitty came out on the main stream media and say that Ivermectin is bad for you
He was one the main writer on a study about River Blindness and Ivermectin
One of the statement he signed was " not only Ivermectin is beneficial and proven to work it is also safe and foremost kill the bugs that spread the virus"
Why is he acting like a puppet whose strings are pulled by clowns, criminals and liars?
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 10:51
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/poison-death-shot-dr-zelenko-testifies-before-israeli-rabbinical-court/
100 %
amongst the many things I would like to see is our own Chris Whitty came out on the main stream media and say that Ivermectin is bad for you
He was one the main writer on a study about River Blindness and Ivermectin
One of the statement he signed was " not only Ivermectin is beneficial and proven to work it is also safe and foremost kill the bugs that spread the virus"
Why is he acting like a puppet whose strings are pulled by clowns, criminals and liars?
Bksabath
09-09-2021, 11:15
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/poison-death-shot-dr-zelenko-testifies-before-israeli-rabbinical-court/
Love it
Quote : "Wake up This is world war 3 ..." at 12:36
One of the main question he ask is why one must be vaccinated ?
The one and only answer is that the few (Bill Gates) can make more money!
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 11:33
What ever the reason behind all of this, never in my relatively short time on this earth has it been acceptable and accepted by the masses for the Cure to be worse than the Disease!
Love it
Quote : "Wake up This is world war 3 ..." at 12:36
One of the main question he ask is why one must be vaccinated ?
The one and only answer is that the few (Bill Gates) can make more money!
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 14:09
A good/interesting read!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
Bksabath
09-09-2021, 15:23
I may have posted a link to that a while ago, if not, yes good read indeed.
Lets see who is going to throw you a brick wrapped on a copy of the Lancet now :D
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 17:41
https://ourgreaterdestiny.org/2020/03/courage-threshold-to-freedom/
anthonyTD
09-09-2021, 18:09
And for those with more patience and a wanting to read a bit more on what is going on at the legal level...
https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/documents/
And an actual video of a very brave man !
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/fuellmich/
Stryder5
09-09-2021, 19:06
There’s been much publication on and in various mediums on mask wearing, but little on how they should be handled.
I have posted on here before on this, but I think a reminder is worth it. The mask is to be presented to the face by the straps. If on wearing them, removing or repositioning them any other part of the mask is touched you need to sanitise or wash for 20 seconds.
Now on removing in a public place what are you doing with the mask? Pocket, handbag on your arm. So if you can’t sanitise in some way then your hands become a particle transmitter. Anything you touch becomes contaminated.
I live in a small town, just by observation, sitting with my dog in the square. NO ONE adheres to this simple principle. On chatting to mask wearers, just in general conversation they are not aware of this process. Without fail they believe the mask is to protect them, not to prevent transmission to others.
The media are presenting mask wearing in crowded places....this encourages...Mask on, Mask off. Isn’t this promoting transmission? Ah well the cases (infections seems prevalent now) have to be accelerated somehow!
Gary
Sorry I forgot to add all this depends on a belief that people have fallen and believe in the Covid-19 lie :scratch::doh:
Good points on masks, Gary - and all are valid. I'd also like to thank Anthony for taking the time to present us with some compelling information on this whole matter that seeks to challenge the accepted norm, and which is certainly worth considering.
Anyway, I didn't get a chance tp update the stats yesterday (before I publish today's), so here goes...
Yesterday's stats for the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
Positive tests: 38,975 (37,489).
Deaths: 191 (209).
Hospitalisations: 933 (905).
And today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
Positive tests: 38,013 (38,975).
Deaths: 167 (191).
Hospitalisations: 863 (933).
All still fairly stable, with deaths starting to reduce to the figure I was expecting. We'll see where we are at the same time next week, and whether or not there's evidence of a sustained downturn on any of the stats.
In Wales (for yesterday, with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2669 (2504)
Deaths: 10 (3).
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2297 (2669)
Deaths: 9 (10).
So new cases are also continuing to fall in Wales.
Granty, what are the current Scottish stats?:)
Marco.
Bksabath
10-09-2021, 12:13
And for those with more patience and a wanting to read a bit more on what is going on at the legal level...
https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/documents/
And an actual video of a very brave man !
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/fuellmich/
Loads of materials here I only had a brief look at the Treatment article of the top list
Not sure about that dude second link you post where holocaust is mentioned, I do listen and such but also reach for my tin hat
I am a very straight arrow and just like to point out that I smell smoke, nothing else.
Solid evidence is what we need, to begin whit, on how this started. Like Noah we are all conspirators till the rain start
Watch this
(2) Did SARS-CoV-2 Leak from Wuhan Lab? | Covid Origin Evidence Explained - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd2Qo-eNKXE)
anthonyTD
10-09-2021, 13:22
Glad you found it of interest.
The Dude [as you refer to him] in the second link has updates since that paticular video, he is the reason for the first link.
Loads of materials here I only had a brief look at the Treatment article of the top list
Not sure about that dude second link you post where holocaust is mentioned, I do listen and such but also reach for my tin hat
I am a very straight arrow and just like to point out that I smell smoke, nothing else.
Solid evidence is what we need, to begin whit, on how this started. Like Noah we are all conspirators till the rain start
Watch this
(2) Did SARS-CoV-2 Leak from Wuhan Lab? | Covid Origin Evidence Explained - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd2Qo-eNKXE)
Covid in Scotland: Infection rate jumps to record one in 45..The Covid infection rate in Scotland has again risen to its highest level since estimates began, with about one in 45 thought to have had it last week.
The latest Office for National Statistics (ONS) infection survey estimated 117,300 people had Covid in the week ending 3 September.
It was the highest rate of any of the UK nations and the most ever recorded.
England was estimated to be one in 70, Wales was one in 65 and Northern Ireland was one in 60, the ONS said.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8A83/production/_120495453_fridaystatsposter.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1046D/production/_120496666_____council_covid_rates_as_of_2021-09-07.png
Summary
6,815 new cases of COVID-19 reported
65,183 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.1% of these were positive
22 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
82 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
977 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,135,329 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,762,367 have received their second dose
anthonyTD
10-09-2021, 15:58
Question is; are all of these people actualy sick, ie with actual symptoms, or are they just relying on the result from the scewed PCR test that has been found to be as high as 95% inaccurate, which the CDC has recently stated that from December this year will no longer be used as an accurate form of test for Covid, stating that a much more accurate test is needed to be able to positively identify covid from Flu and Influenza!!!
Go check it out at the CDC website.
And today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 37,622 (38,013).
Deaths: 147 (167).
Hospitalisations: 1063 (863).
So, as predicted, new cases and deaths continue to fall, which is good, although the most pertinent stat there is the new admissions to hospital, which has notably risen, and of course is something that needs watching. Problem is, we don't know when this current wave will hit its peak.
However, for now at least, that's tempered by the fact that new cases haven't risen in line with it, so if that continues, then it should follow that hospitalisations should start to fall, although as we're coming into the weekend now, we won't really know until Tuesday.
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2467 (2297)
Deaths: 5 (9).
So a slight increase in cases, but drop in deaths. All pretty stable for now.
Marco.
Question is; are all of these people actualy sick, ie with actual symptoms, or are they just relying on the result from the scewed PCR test that has been found to be as high as 95% inaccurate, which the CDC has recently stated that from December this year will no longer be used as an accurate form of test for Covid, stating that a much more accurate test is needed to be able to positively identify covid from Flu and Influenza!!!
Go check it out at the CDC website.
Really? That's interesting, and as you say, badly needed in the interests of accuracy, so let's hope they get one!:)
Marco.
last one i saw re tests were 30% chance of an inaccurate false negative, ans a 5% chance of a false positive.
anthonyTD
11-09-2021, 09:21
Even going by those figures Grant i think the point i am making is still worth considering.
last one i saw re tests were 30% chance of an inaccurate false negative, ans a 5% chance of a false positive.
no test is 100%. these aint perfect by a way but they are best we have, and in general do the job to find high areas, or probability that someone has the virus and can be re-tested ..
up here its running wild, especially among the younger folk. schools and lete teens to 30 are biggest group, but they are giving it to older folk too.
ive of late, even due to very high numbers been getting out to car showrooms etc and trying vehicles. its a biggish risk but im trying to be careful too. I can only hope as my jabs were late, that my imunity is higher than most currently.
Quite right, mate. You're not wrong in what you're saying, but there's risk in all aspects of life. However, right now, with you being double-jabbed, there's probably more risk of you being involved in a fatal car crash, on the way to a dealership [and touch wood that never happens], than dying from Covid;)
So you have to LIVE, whilst being as careful as you can, not hide away forever in fear of Covid, as that's no LIFE, merely an existence.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 29,547 (37,622).
Deaths: 156 (147).
Hospitalisations: 1063 (1063).
Interesting stats... You could say that deaths and new admissions to hospital figures are high for a weekend, which I'm sure reflects the fact that we're in the middle of a peak of the 3rd wave, but then new cases once again are down.
Now is the latter due to it being a weekend (lag in data updating), and if so, why aren't the stats for deaths and new admissions similarly affected? My guess is that new cases are on a downward spiral (although we won't know for sure until Tuesday), as they've been falling gradually for the last few days, which of course is a good thing.
However, hospitalisations are obviously still on the up, although you wonder with them being exactly the same as yesterday, whether that figure has been properly updated.. We'll see what tomorrow and Monday brings, in that respect, and notably Tuesday.
The figures for Wales, as of yet, haven't been updated since yesterday.
What are the stats for Scotland, Granty?
Marco.
Summary sCOTLAND..
4,298 new cases of COVID-19 reported
42,529 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
10.9% of these were positive
10 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
83 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
985 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,137,710 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,769,320 have received their second dose
So your new cases figure is starting to come down, too... Nice one. Long may it continue!:)
Marco.
anthonyTD
11-09-2021, 16:46
Some interesting statistics!
https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/08/exclusive-80-percent-of-covid-19-deaths-in-august-were-people-who-had-been-vaccinated/
Regardless of anything else, this is a very apt (and true) quote:
We’re living in strange times, and if you believe the Covid-19 vaccination programme is working because the authorities on the television tell you that it is, then you must surely find it extremely strange that the UK is in the middle of a third wave in the middle of summer? Especially when you consider that in summer 2020 Covid-19 deaths flat-lined to zero even though a Covid-19 injection was not available.
Indeed. Can't really argue with that, but is that simply because the new 'Delta variant' of the virus is more transmissible?;)
Even if true, it just means that the vaccines are piss-poor at dealing with it, so how does that augur for the future? As I've always said, this thing will NOT cease to be a significant problem until we reach herd immunity..
Therefore, as usual, nature will win the day, not vaccines!
Marco.
anthonyTD
11-09-2021, 19:50
And another good report.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/previous-covid-19-infection-protects-against-delta-variant-better-than-pfizer-vaccine-study_3967844.html
Regardless of anything else, this is a very apt (and true) quote:
Indeed. Can't really argue with that, but is that simply because the new 'Delta variant' of the virus is more transmissible?;)
Even if true, it just means that the vaccines are piss-poor at dealing with it, so how does that augur for the future? As I've always said, this thing will NOT cease to be a significant problem until we reach herd immunity..
Therefore, as usual, nature will win the day, not vaccines!
Marco.
Stryder5
12-09-2021, 14:30
I see the PCR test of fear has run its course CDC dumping end of December. It’s served its purpose, to instill fear and subjugation in the world.
How long can the pretence now exist.
Gary
Summary Scotland.
5,912 new cases of COVID-19 reported
55,646 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.5% of these were positive
0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends)
88 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,019 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,140,616 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,777,461 have received their second dose
I see the PCR test of fear has run its course CDC dumping end of December. It’s served its purpose, to instill fear and subjugation in the world.
How long can the pretence now exist.
Gary
Inaccurate: The Lab Alert notified users that the CDC would be withdrawing its request for emergency use authorization for its COVID-19 PCR diagnostic test after December 2021. This isn’t because the performance of the CDC’s RT-PCR test for detecting COVID-19 showed any problems, but because tests that are capable of processing more samples within a given time and detecting more than one pathogen have since been developed. Such characteristics make these tests the preferred alternatives in the interests of time and resources.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/eua-withdrawal-for-cdc-covid-19-pcr-test-is-due-to-the-development-of-newer-tests-that-help-save-time-and-resources-not-because-the-test-is-faulty/
Stryder5
12-09-2021, 15:24
Inaccurate: The Lab Alert notified users that the CDC would be withdrawing its request for emergency use authorization for its COVID-19 PCR diagnostic test after December 2021. This isn’t because the performance of the CDC’s RT-PCR test for detecting COVID-19 showed any problems, but because tests that are capable of processing more samples within a given time and detecting more than one pathogen have since been developed. Such characteristics make these tests the preferred alternatives in the interests of time and resources
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/eua-withdrawal-for-cdc-covid-19-pcr-test-is-due-to-the-development-of-newer-tests-that-help-save-time-and-resources-not-because-the-test-is-faulty/
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.
This folllows the path that the PCR test hasn’t been capable of differentiating between Covid-19 and influenzas, hence the ONS stoped statistics on ‘flu.
Gary
Could you link to your source for that please, Gary?:)
Marco.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 29,173 (29,547).
Deaths: 56 (156).
Hospitalisations: 1073 (1063).
Clearly, hospitalisations are still on the rise, as on a Sunday you'd expect lower figures, due to the delay in data updating, so we'll see how things are tomorrow.
The death figure, of course for the same reason, is artificially low, but I do believe that there is a general downwards trend in that area, which will hopefully be reflected in tomorrow's figures, and new cases continue to fall.
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2317 (2467).
Deaths:8 (5).
All pretty stable, although because of the weekend, the new cases figure could be lower than in reality. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Marco.
Stryder5
12-09-2021, 17:32
Could you link to your source for that please, Gary?:)
Marco.
https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/clinical/diagnostic-testing/diagnosis-pcr-bestpractices.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/surveillance-guidance-integration.html
Gary
Interesting, thanks:thumbsup:
Marco.
Stryder5
12-09-2021, 18:30
Could you link to your source for that please, Gary?:)
Marco.
https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/clinical/diagnostic-testing/diagnosis-pcr-bestpractices.html
Gary
Bksabath
13-09-2021, 03:37
Just watched the latest Peak Prosperity youtube clip
Boring to the extreme but it has a couple of golden nuggets at about 5 minutes from the end
Have a look at the chart at 21:23
The Big question that require an honest answer is:
What are your chances to end up in hospital whit the Fauci virus?
Once you answer that work out what it would be if your immune system is top notch, whit good levels of vitamin D for example
And then keep chipping away whit Ivermectin Hydroxycloroquine and so on
The results I get is that now one single death from it is one to many
My Most Important Video Yet - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64WvgCZbgJg&list=LL&index=1)
Bksabath
13-09-2021, 03:56
Zinc nutrition as we enter endemic phase - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISH-sCvHXU)
And this
A *MUST* watch, BEFORE it's taken down...!! They're trying to hide the number of deaths and serious side-effects the vaccines are having on our younger population in particular, especially heart-related. Plus, they're also trying to slither out of giving rightfully due compensation to victims, under the Vaccines Damage Act:
https://youtu.be/GwZm_IXG9Ho
Read the full exchange in parliament here: https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-09-10/debates/9DC43CAE-0728-4000-8AB7-7B2B8156DAA3/Covid-19VaccineDamageBill
Key quote: "There is a lot more damage being done to our citizens as a result of covid-19 vaccinations than in any other vaccination programme in history."
Straight from an acting government minster - not any 'conspiracy theorist'!
Marco.
anthonyTD
13-09-2021, 10:43
Here's another useful Nugget concerning the rate and the method of how they might be hiding deaths!!!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/mL0JvJ.png
anthonyTD
13-09-2021, 10:52
Hi Gary,
We are on the same wavelength on this as i had already posted something similar stating that the PCR test was shockingly in-accurate at being able to differentiate between Covid and influenza, hence my reasoning that its possible that Influenza didn't just disappear as we have been led to belief since all this started, but has just been re-labeled as Covid, now it seems they have conjured up some additional tests that will more accurately find something else in our system that they can again re-label as Covid, people open your eyes for goodness sake!!|!
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.
This follows the path that the PCR test hasn’t been capable of differentiating between Covid-19 and influenzas, hence the ONS stopped statistics on ‘flu.
Gary
https://youtu.be/GwZm_IXG9Ho
So, who's watched it? The body language from his fellow ministers, is interesting, isn't it? Clearly uncomfortable... And the reaction from the front benchers, more so. They're certainly not happy about him discussing it!
Well, too bad. The rabbit's out the hat now.
Marco.
anthonyTD
13-09-2021, 12:52
And this, another classic;
https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/22/new-evidence-submitted-icc-alleging-world-governments-committed-gonocide/
Stryder5
13-09-2021, 12:58
So, who's watched it? The body language from his fellow ministers, is interesting, isn't it? Clearly uncomfortable... And the reaction from the front benchers, more so. They're certainly not happy about him discussing it!
Well, too bad. The rabbit's out the hat now.
Marco.
I watched this, you may well find that this particular rabbit will somehow disappear, be silenced or discredited. This may well be his fate.
Gary
Stryder5
13-09-2021, 13:19
Hi Gary,
We are on the same wavelength on this as i had already posted something similar stating that the PCR test was shockingly in-accurate at being able to differentiate between Covid and influenza, hence my reasoning that its possible that Influenza didn't just disappear as we have been led to belief since all this started, but has just been re-labeled as Covid, now it seems they have conjured up some additional tests that will more accurately find something else in our system that they can again re-label as Covid, people open your eyes for goodness sake!!|!
The PCR test has served its purpose, so now to take the attention away from its well documented limitations and any recriminations let’s have new red herrings.
In the meantime we will continue to have statistics that are meaningless and untrue.
Gary
I watched this, you may well find that this particular rabbit will somehow disappear, be silenced or discredited. This may well be his fate.
Wot - you're not suggesting that to save face and protect their best interests, our lovely government, and servants of the people [snigger], would resort to such underhand tactics?;)
Marco.
Bksabath
13-09-2021, 14:02
Quite simply get an antibody test
It would be the only one definitive proof that you either had the Fauci virus or that the vaccine you been talked in to taking have worked and you not part of an experiment.
No further passport needed no further test till maybe next year no need to worry about ending up in hospital no need for test before or after a trip
even tell you haw many Fkeers you got, mine dated 05/08 show level above 2500 whatever.
In the mean time they carry on whit the tit for that whit the French over same shit that may kill you
And I just got told, sorry Sir we do not have any solar panels for your security camera "due to the current situation"
Just write to your MP and tell him unless I get an Antibody test for free next time I am going to vote for the other C--t or pay £50 like I did
Scottish numbers: 13 September 2021
Summary
4,241* new cases of COVID-19 reported
40,749* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.3*% of these were positive
0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends)
90 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,048 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,142,783 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,785,214 have received their second dose
*Please note that due to IT issues, the figures reported today are likely to be an underestimate of the total tests and cases. All affected data will be included in tomorrow’s reports.
New cases continuing to fall and no deaths... A bit better news, eh?:)
Marco.
New cases continuing to fall and no deaths... A bit better news, eh?:)
Marco.
maybe, but there was an it issue so?
*Please note that due to IT issues, the figures reported today are likely to be an underestimate of the total tests and cases. All affected data will be included in tomorrow’s reports.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 30,825 (29,173).
Deaths: 61 (56).
Hospitalisations: 1076 (1073).
We won't know the true picture until tomorrow, but it appears that deaths are falling, along with new cases, and the spike in hospitalisations could be levelling off. However, let's see what tomorrow brings.
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 4308 (2317).
Deaths: 21 (8).
So another jump in new cases (and deaths), and over the weekend too, where you'd expect lower figures. In previous waves of the virus, Wales has usually had its peak later than the rest of the UK, so that's probably what's happening. We'll see how things look tomorrow.
Marco.
maybe, but there was an it issue so?
Yeah, could be. Tuesday's always the 'real deal', so we'll see.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 17:34
I'm starting to think that nothing will prevent Covid cases rising, going away then coming back, ad infinitum. Vaccines may not keep us ahead of mutations, and herd immunity won't happen either for the same reason. In the same way we don't achieve herd immunity with the common cold. Although these may mitigate the severity of infections.
I really hope I'm mistaken, and that someone on here with the brains, the time and the inclination to research this stuff will prove me wrong,
Sure... It's not spiralling out of control though, is it? Just going up and down.
I understand why you feel as you've outlined, but I honestly think the virus will peter out and get to the stage where it presents no more of a threat than flu (indeed some came to that conclusion long ago, which of course is arguable), and so (if wanted) you'll simply get your annual Covid jab along with your flu one, and we'll LEARN TO LIVE with Covid, the same as any other virus.
This is an interesting article (worth negotiating the annoying ads to read), which pretty much sums up how I envisage things will go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/covid-how-will-it-end/2021/09/04/44bdd69a-fed7-11eb-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
Key quote: “I truly, truly think we are in the endgame,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious-disease specialist and professor of medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “The cases will start plummeting in mid- to late September and by mid-October, we will be in a manageable place, where the virus is a concern for health professionals, but not really for the general public.”
Fingers crossed!:cool:
Marco.
judging by the figures on infection and vaccination, as long as no new super infector etc changes the parameters then we really should be getting closer nor to over 96% of total population having some level of protection. it may not stop it but it may become a less problemic issue.
its still a big maybe tho as we dont know enough yet
Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 21:04
Sure... It's not spiralling out of control though, is it? Just going up and down.
I understand why you feel as you've outlined, but I honestly think the virus will peter out and get to the stage where it presents no more of a threat than flu (indeed some came to that conclusion long ago, which of course is arguable), and so (if wanted) you'll simply get your annual Covid jab along with your flu one, and we'll LEARN TO LIVE with Covid, the same as any other virus.
This is an interesting article (worth negotiating the annoying ads to read), which pretty much sums up how I envisage things will go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/covid-how-will-it-end/2021/09/04/44bdd69a-fed7-11eb-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
Key quote: “I truly, truly think we are in the endgame,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious-disease specialist and professor of medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “The cases will start plummeting in mid- to late September and by mid-October, we will be in a manageable place, where the virus is a concern for health professionals, but not really for the general public.”
Fingers crossed!:cool:
Marco.
Fingers crossed indeed :) As I've said before, I'm too stupid to be scared for myself, but I do worry about others. I want society to get back to normal asap, but I don't want folk dying all over the place to achieve it.
There are some endorsing the boosting of our immune systems with vitamin C, D etc, and if that works, great. But it probably won't do much for those whose immune systems are too fucked to fix. Like Mrs. P. So me and her will carry on with vaccination programmes and hope for the best :)
Fair do's.. You must do what you think's best for you. I can already see some signs of Monica Gandhi's prediction coming to fruition, so let's hope she's right!:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 21:42
Fair do's.. You must do what you think's best for you. I can already see some signs of Monica Gandhi's prediction coming to fruition, so let's hope she's right!:)
Marco.
:thumbsup:
Bksabath
14-09-2021, 05:38
Sure... It's not spiralling out of control though, is it? Just going up and down.
I understand why you feel as you've outlined, but I honestly think the virus will peter out and get to the stage where it presents no more of a threat than flu (indeed some came to that conclusion long ago, which of course is arguable), and so (if wanted) you'll simply get your annual Covid jab along with your flu one, and we'll LEARN TO LIVE with Covid, the same as any other virus.
Fingers crossed!:cool:
Marco.
I have to agree whit this
whit over 44 M fully vaccinated peoples and unknown number of peoples that had the virus, The >7 M number of people that is reported is IMO way lower than the real figure, it could not be any other way.
But it is not like any other virus
We can not be complacent
we need to support Sir Christopher Chope as you posted on 8841
and doctors like Pierre Kory
is Ivermectin the solution to the Covid-19 pandemic? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiPWOyBI-A&list=LL&index=2)
Many questions must be answered on how this came to be and on the mistakes and omissions that have been made
New evidence, including a sworn affidavit from Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, has been submitted to the International Criminal Court alleging World Governments are complicit in genocide and crimes against humanity – The Expose (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/22/new-evidence-submitted-icc-alleging-world-governments-committed-gonocide/)
Extract
One request specific to the United Kingdom is an examination of genocide of the elderly and vulnerable that took place in care homes and hospitals through the inappropriate use of midazolam (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/13/elderly-were-murdered-covid19-wasnt-to-blame/) and morphine. Another investigation specific to this issue (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/17/lawyers-send-open-letter-to-uk-gov-hancock-whitty-vallance-demanding-answers-on-alleged-mass-murder-in-care-homes-through-the-use-of-midazolam/) has also now concluded and a private criminal prosecution will proceed against the UK Government, Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty and others if the team of lawyers and experts who have carried out the investigation do not receive satisfactory answers to the extensive questions that have been forwarded to the aforementioned in an open letter (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/17/lawyers-send-open-letter-to-uk-gov-hancock-whitty-vallance-demanding-answers-on-alleged-mass-murder-in-care-homes-through-the-use-of-midazolam/)sent on the 17th August 2021.
The main stream media should also bee taken to account!
Why vitamin D and such have not been discussed there?
Why if Ivermectin could save one single life Chris Whitty did never mention it? he knows an here is the proof
Effect of Ivermectin on Anopheles gambiae Mosquitoes Fed on Humans: The Potential of Oral Insecticides in Malaria Control | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com) (https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/202/1/113/888773)
Ivermectin has a wide antiparasitic activity with long veterinary use [4]. When ivermectin's activity against Onchocerca volvulus was discovered, it was licensed for human use and was used in mass drug administration programs to control river blindness; it was administered to >80 million adults and children. The drug has proven to be safe. Doses up to 10 times the approved limit are well tolerated by healthy volunteers [5]. Adverse reactions are few and usually mild [6, 7]. Ivermectin is also used against other human parasites, including strongyloides and scabies.
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 08:46
Quite agree, which is why i posted the links way back on much of this, but its good to refresh folks memory, and i for one hope all concerned in the miss-handling, and gross miss-leading of the public over all of this get the justice they deserve, including the likes of those you mention.
I have to agree whit this
whit over 44 M fully vaccinated peoples and unknown number of peoples that had the virus, The >7 M number of people that is reported is IMO way lower than the real figure, it could not be any other way.
But it is not like any other virus
We can not be complacent
we need to support Sir Christopher Chope as you posted on 8841
and doctors like Pierre Kory
is Ivermectin the solution to the Covid-19 pandemic? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiPWOyBI-A&list=LL&index=2)
Many questions must be answered on how this came to be and on the mistakes and omissions that have been made
New evidence, including a sworn affidavit from Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, has been submitted to the International Criminal Court alleging World Governments are complicit in genocide and crimes against humanity – The Expose (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/22/new-evidence-submitted-icc-alleging-world-governments-committed-gonocide/)
Extract
One request specific to the United Kingdom is an examination of genocide of the elderly and vulnerable that took place in care homes and hospitals through the inappropriate use of midazolam (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/13/elderly-were-murdered-covid19-wasnt-to-blame/) and morphine. Another investigation specific to this issue (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/17/lawyers-send-open-letter-to-uk-gov-hancock-whitty-vallance-demanding-answers-on-alleged-mass-murder-in-care-homes-through-the-use-of-midazolam/) has also now concluded and a private criminal prosecution will proceed against the UK Government, Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty and others if the team of lawyers and experts who have carried out the investigation do not receive satisfactory answers to the extensive questions that have been forwarded to the aforementioned in an open letter (https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/17/lawyers-send-open-letter-to-uk-gov-hancock-whitty-vallance-demanding-answers-on-alleged-mass-murder-in-care-homes-through-the-use-of-midazolam/)sent on the 17th August 2021.
The main stream media should also bee taken to account!
Why vitamin D and such have not been discussed there?
Why if Ivermectin could save one single life Chris Whitty did never mention it? he knows an here is the proof
Effect of Ivermectin on Anopheles gambiae Mosquitoes Fed on Humans: The Potential of Oral Insecticides in Malaria Control | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com) (https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/202/1/113/888773)
Ivermectin has a wide antiparasitic activity with long veterinary use [4]. When ivermectin's activity against Onchocerca volvulus was discovered, it was licensed for human use and was used in mass drug administration programs to control river blindness; it was administered to >80 million adults and children. The drug has proven to be safe. Doses up to 10 times the approved limit are well tolerated by healthy volunteers [5]. Adverse reactions are few and usually mild [6, 7]. Ivermectin is also used against other human parasites, including strongyloides and scabies.
Fingers crossed indeed :) As I've said before, I'm too stupid to be scared for myself, but I do worry about others. I want society to get back to normal asap, but I don't want folk dying all over the place to achieve it.
There are some endorsing the boosting of our immune systems with vitamin C, D etc, and if that works, great. But it probably won't do much for those whose immune systems are too fucked to fix. Like Mrs. P. So me and her will carry on with vaccination programmes and hope for the best :)
:thumbsup: All we can do really
Sure... It's not spiralling out of control though, is it? Just going up and down.
I understand why you feel as you've outlined, but I honestly think the virus will peter out and get to the stage where it presents no more of a threat than flu (indeed some came to that conclusion long ago, which of course is arguable), and so (if wanted) you'll simply get your annual Covid jab along with your flu one, and we'll LEARN TO LIVE with Covid, the same as any other virus.
This is an interesting article (worth negotiating the annoying ads to read), which pretty much sums up how I envisage things will go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/covid-how-will-it-end/2021/09/04/44bdd69a-fed7-11eb-a664-4f6de3e17ff0_story.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
Key quote: “I truly, truly think we are in the endgame,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious-disease specialist and professor of medicine at the University of California at San Francisco. “The cases will start plummeting in mid- to late September and by mid-October, we will be in a manageable place, where the virus is a concern for health professionals, but not really for the general public.”
Fingers crossed!:cool:
Marco.
Quite right. The only sensible response has to be "learning to live with it"
My main concern at the moment regarding vaccination is the proposal that it will be a case of " Covid booster in one arm, Flu in the other" for over fifties this winter - I really don't like the idea of overloading my immune response with two vaccinations at the same time.
Then skip the booster, simples... It's YOUR body, and your decision. You've already had two jabs, offering you ample protection. You don't need a third one so soon after the second, no matter what the government would like!
:)
Marco.
boosters look like being after at least 6 months. flu jabs will be out shortly. if i get a booster itll be next year
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 09:17
Please read this, it may help many of you to put this into perspective!
https://www.flemingmethod.com/vaccine-chasing
There is also a tump of other useful information on this site.
boosters look like being after at least 6 months. flu jabs will be out shortly. if i get a booster itll be next year
I thought the idea was to negate a surge in cases over the winter months? It that's the case, they'll be starting the booster programme shortly!
Marco.
Please read this, it may help many of you to put this into perspective!
https://www.flemingmethod.com/vaccine-chasing
There is also a tump of other useful information on this site.
Lol - really funny with the dog at the end, going round and round chasing its tail:D And given what was outlined previously, rather apt!
Marco.
I thought the idea was to negate a surge in cases over the winter months? It that's the case, they'll be starting the booster programme shortly!
Marco.
i read somewhere that they dont want to jab anyone til they have used up 6 months from their 2nd jab(over 50's).. course its not been decided yet. so some of the early jabbers will get it soon i guess. i would be next year. lol
Please read this, it may help many of you to put this into perspective!
https://www.flemingmethod.com/vaccine-chasing
There is also a tump of other useful information on this site.
Fleming was convicted of healthcare fraud and mail fraud after pleading guilty https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm
When you're afraid of something, what you want more than anything else is to make it go away. You want your life back to the way it was before you found out that there was something to be afraid of. You want to build a high wall and live your old life behind it. But nothing ever stays the same. That's not your old life at all. That's your new life with a wall around it. Your choice is not about going back to the way things were. Your choice is about hiding, or about going right to the heart of the thing that scares you.
a good way of looking at covid for me.
i read somewhere that they dont want to jab anyone til they have used up 6 months from their 2nd jab(over 50's).. course its not been decided yet. so some of the early jabbers will get it soon i guess. i would be next year. lol
I heard they're starting with the jobby jabbers first... So expect your letter sometime soon!:D
;)
Marco.
When you're afraid of something, what you want more than anything else is to make it go away. You want your life back to the way it was before you found out that there was something to be afraid of. You want to build a high wall and live your old life behind it. But nothing ever stays the same. That's not your old life at all. That's your new life with a wall around it. Your choice is not about going back to the way things were. Your choice is about hiding, or about going right to the heart of the thing that scares you.
a good way of looking at covid for me.
Never good to hide from anything, as it solves nothing.
In life, even when faced with the most challenging of adversity (such as when I had a spinal tumour, which would've killed me, and was told by my consultant that after the op there was an 85% chance of being paralysed from the waist down), I've always faced things HEAD ON, with a positive mental attitude, never hidden away or felt sorry for myself.
I firmly believe that was one of the reasons why I survived and retained my mobility, as mentally, despite the huge odds against it, I *refused to accept* that I was going to be dead or disabled, and thankfully (miraculously) it didn't happen...
Experiences like that certainly give you a different perspective on life, and make you value what you've got and the precious time you spend with loved ones, none of which is best served by hiding from Covid, no matter how 'scary'. The threat of being paralysed from the waist down was scarier... Life's too short mate, so you have to take the precautions you can, make the best of it, and try not to have any regrets!:)
Marco.
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 13:21
Quite agree, and I consider myself as living proof of positive mental attitude due to my own condition. :)
Never good to hide from anything, as it solves nothing.
In life, even when faced with the most challenging of adversity (such as when I had a spinal tumour, which would've killed me, and was told by my consultant that after the op there was an 85% chance of being paralysed from the waist down), I've always faced things HEAD ON, with a positive mental attitude, never hidden away or felt sorry for myself.
I firmly believe that was one of the reasons why I survived and retained my mobility, as mentally, despite the huge odds against it, I *refused to accept* that I was going to be dead or disabled, and thankfully (miraculously) it didn't happen...
Experiences like that certainly give you a different perspective on life, and make you value what you've got and the precious time you spend with loved ones, none of which is best served by hiding from Covid, no matter how 'scary'. The threat of being paralysed from the waist down was scarier... Life's too short mate, so you have to take the precautions you can, make the best of it, and try not to have any regrets!:)
Marco.
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 13:24
Again you choose to shoot the messenger, and ignore the mesage! :doh:
Check the info for yourself, its out there.
Fleming was convicted of healthcare fraud and mail fraud after pleading guilty https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm
Scottish numbers: 14 September 2021
Summary
3,375 new cases of COVID-19 reported
31,837* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.4*% of these were positive
21 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
89 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,064 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,144,904 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,788,551 have received their second dose
tests % about same but deaths numbers have caught up with weekend.. 3375 seems lower but less tests taken today, which may still be a good thing.. we shall see
Quite agree, and I consider myself as living proof of positive mental attitude due to my own condition. :)
Indeed, mate. You and I, and no doubt thousands of others. A positive mental attitude/glass half-full approach to life, as opposed to the opposite, can be of untold benefit to your well-being, and arguably add years onto your life.
Marco.
Scottish numbers: 14 September 2021
Summary
3,375 new cases of COVID-19 reported
31,837* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.4*% of these were positive
21 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
89 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,064 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,144,904 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,788,551 have received their second dose
tests % about same but deaths numbers have caught up with weekend.. 3375 seems lower but less tests taken today, which may still be a good thing.. we shall see
Scottish figures must be updated earlier than the UK ones, which doesn't normally happen until 4-4.30pm. So I'll come back later with those.
I take your point, but cases do seem to be coming down in Scotland, which is what usually happens once they've reached their peak. Up or down, deaths are at a very low level. More people will likely have died on the roads. In terms of Covid, we haven't reached our peak yet in Wales, and I'm not sure England has either.
More later!:cool:
Marco.
yeah they are usually earlier.. can be from 2pm but sometimes a lot later. there is hope here that we are on the cusp of the downturn but its yet to really show
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 14:45
:)
Indeed, mate. You and I, and no doubt thousands of others. A positive mental attitude/glass half-full approach to life, as opposed to the opposite, can be of untold benefit to your well-being, and arguably add years onto your life.
Marco.
Again you choose to shoot the messenger, and ignore the mesage! :doh:
Check the info for yourself, its out there.
He's a convicted con man, he's not a reliable source for anything. If he told me it was raining out I'd have to go to the window and check.
His cousin, Mr Kipling, also did exceedingly good cakes.
Marco.
copied from another thread...
When everything in your life is right on track, it's easy to believe that things happen for a reason; it's easy to have faith. But when things start to go wrong then it's very hard to hold on to that faith. It's hard not to wonder whose reasons these things happen for. People like to examine the things that frighten them, to look at them and give them names, so saints look for God, and scientists look for evidence. They're both just trying to take away the mystery, to take away the fear. We all like to think that we have some control over the events in our lives, and a lot of the time we can fool ourselves into thinking that we really are in charge. But then something happens to remind us that the world runs by its own rules and not ours and that we're just along for the ride.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 26,628 (30,825).
Deaths: 185 (61).
Hospitalisations: 1009 (1076).
So.... The usual 'Tuesday hike' (today's stats including updated data from the weekend), as predicted, reveals some good news!
New cases have notably dropped, continuing the downwards trend for the last week, and I'd expect that to continue in the weeks to come. The death figure is also much lower than with the similar 'Tuesday hike' from last weekend, where we saw 288 deaths.
However, I'd expect it to hover around that figure (150-180) for a little while yet. Then, in conjunction with the reduction in new cases, reduce gradually in next couple of weeks, in line with Monica Ghandi's earlier prediction.
Importantly too, hospitalisations (new admissions) does indeed look like it's levelling off. If the figure comes down again tomorrow, then that should indicate that we're slowly coming out of the peak of the 3rd wave, so we'll see.
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 1924 (4308).
Deaths: 5 (21).
Big reduction too, in the number of new cases in Wales. Surprisingly so, actually. Certainly welcome news. We'll see how things stand tomorrow.
Marco.
anthonyTD
14-09-2021, 17:03
I sugest you go and look out the window then!
He's a convicted con man, he's not a reliable source for anything. If he told me it was raining out I'd have to go to the window and check.
Pigmy Pony
14-09-2021, 22:29
I thought the idea was to negate a surge in cases over the winter months? It that's the case, they'll be starting the booster programme shortly!
Marco.
Someone on the radio today was saying double-jabbed folk should still have most of their immunity well past 6 months. Flu jabs will be along shortly, and like Guy I don't fancy having both vacs without enough time to go for a shit between them.
Pigmy Pony
14-09-2021, 22:56
Indeed, mate. You and I, and no doubt thousands of others. A positive mental attitude/glass half-full approach to life, as opposed to the opposite, can be of untold benefit to your well-being, and arguably add years onto your life.
Marco.
Arguably indeed, as I would argue that you can't say something has added years to your life without first knowing at what age you were scheduled to die and seeing how far past that date you get ;)
There are exceptions: cancer survivors, successful transplant patients, folk on death row having their convictions overturned... but even they can still get hit by a bus! But I take tour point, having a positive attitude is a good thing :)
Absolutely it's arguable, but there's plenty of evidence around showing that a will to live or not give up hope of survival in adversity, after people in such situations have pulled through against all the odds, to suggest that there's something in it.
That doesn't make it a fact, of course, but it's certainly better to have a positive mental attitude than a negative one!:)
Personally, I don't associate with negative-minded, depressing people, as it drags me down from my usual cheery self, so tend to avoid them like the plague, and surround myself with folk who are naturally predisposed to smiling more than frowning, even when life isn't great.
Marco.
Someone on the radio today was saying double-jabbed folk should still have most of their immunity well past 6 months. Flu jabs will be along shortly, and like Guy I don't fancy having both vacs without enough time to go for a shit between them.
Quite right, too. So follow your best instincts, just like I have and forget about peer pressure or acquiescing to government control!
Marco.
Absolutely it's arguable, but there's plenty of evidence around showing that a will to live or not give up hope of survival in adversity, after people in such situations have pulled through against all the odds, to suggest that there's something in it.
That doesn't make it a fact, of course, but it's certainly better to have a positive mental attitude than a negative one!:)
Personally, I don't associate with negative-minded, depressing people, as it drags me down from my usual cheery self, so tend to avoid them like the plague, and surround myself with folk who are naturally predisposed to smiling more than frowning, even when life isn't great.
Marco.
https://youtu.be/0Cpb8rqYFd8
anthonyTD
15-09-2021, 08:05
They are talking about actualy combining the two in one Jab, so look out for that coming to a surgery near you! :eek::)
Someone on the radio today was saying double-jabbed folk should still have most of their immunity well past 6 months. Flu jabs will be along shortly, and like Guy I don't fancy having both vacs without enough time to go for a shit between them.
I will be getting my flu jab anyway.. will see about booster when it comes around. I believe they will test it first??:eyebrows:
https://youtu.be/0Cpb8rqYFd8
:lolsign:
The great Rikki Fulton... Classic!:D
Marco.
They are talking about actualy combining the two in one Jab, so look out for that coming to a surgery near you! :eek::)
Ah, the get one, die one free, deal....
Marco.
Someone on the radio today was saying double-jabbed folk should still have most of their immunity well past 6 months. Flu jabs will be along shortly, and like Guy I don't fancy having both vacs without enough time to go for a shit between them.
Love the way that you put that :lol:
hifi_dave
15-09-2021, 14:06
I will be getting my flu jab anyway.. will see about booster when it comes around. I believe they will test it first??:eyebrows:
Have my Flu jab booked in for two weeks time and eagerly awaiting the booster jab. Can't come quick enough for me as it 'might' give people like me a bit of immunity.
The booster has been tested as it is the Pfizer or Moderna, I believe.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 30,597 (26,628).
Deaths: 201 (185).
Hospitalisations: 836 (1009).
Interesting... Didn't expect to see deaths rise slightly. Thought it'd be the opposite, but it's not a big rise and will likely go down tomorrow, once again to below the 200 mark. Similarly, and I'm pleasantly surprised, I didn't expect hospitalisations to reduce by such a margin, so let's hope that's the beginning of a sustained downwards trend.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2298 (1924).
Deaths: 10 (5).
Slight rise in cases, but nothing too alarming. Hopefully, it'll not rise again to above 4000.
How are things looking in Scotland, Granty?
Marco.
deaths up again and cases up too although % is down.
Scottish numbers: 15 September 2021
Summary
4,917 new cases of COVID-19 reported
57,383 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
9.2% of these were positive
30 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
91 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,079 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,146,847 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,791,597 have received their second dose
Yeah, but to all intents and purposes, deaths are minimal and new cases probably stable. However, as yet there isn't a sustained downwards trend in the latter.
Are you able to get a figure for daily hospitalisations (new admissions)? That's arguably the key stat for driving government agenda.
Marco.
anthonyTD
15-09-2021, 16:34
Aye, on you! :eek::D
I believe they will test it first??:eyebrows:
Aye, on you! :eek::D
offered me a bottle of scotch... i haggled to 2:ner:
offered me a bottle of scotch... i haggled to 2:ner:
...and a free soapy wank off the nurse:D
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 17:20
Absolutely it's arguable, but there's plenty of evidence around showing that a will to live or not give up hope of survival in adversity, after people in such situations have pulled through against all the odds, to suggest that there's something in it.
That doesn't make it a fact, of course, but it's certainly better to have a positive mental attitude than a negative one!:)
Personally, I don't associate with negative-minded, depressing people, as it drags me down from my usual cheery self, so tend to avoid them like the plague, and surround myself with folk who are naturally predisposed to smiling more than frowning, even when life isn't great.
Marco.
Well you always seem to be smiling in photos, but I'd assumed it was just wind.
Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 17:24
Quite right, too. So follow your best instincts, just like I have and forget about peer pressure or acquiescing to government control!
Marco.
I only acquiesce to spouse pressure, and even she finds it an uphill struggle :)
Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 17:33
They are talking about actualy combining the two in one Jab, so look out for that coming to a surgery near you! :eek::)
Yeah, the thought of flu runts joining forces with hobbled Covid bugs to assault my body doesn't appeal. So I'll have me flu jab when it comes along, and t'other one at some point later, no rush :)
far as i know the flu jabs are already vialed. only issue is they have no haulage :doh: but govt aint worried. they are reducing the test so more folk can be tested. they are cutting reversing etc from test:doh: just one of the most dangerous manouvers with a trailer
Well you always seem to be smiling in photos, but I'd assumed it was just wind.
It's that 'special needs' look, mate. I've perfected it!:D
Marco.
I only acquiesce to spouse pressure, and even she finds it an uphill struggle :)
With me, it's 'stool' pressure...:eyebrows:
Marco.
far as i know the flu jabs are already vialed. only issue is they have no haulage :doh: but govt aint worried. they are reducing the test so more folk can be tested. they are cutting reversing etc from test:doh: just one of the most dangerous manouvers with a trailer
Lol - I've read and re-read that about 10 times now, and it still makes no sense:scratch: Must do in your head, though, which is worrying!:lol::ner:
Marco.
Stryder5
15-09-2021, 18:30
far as i know the flu jabs are already vialed. only issue is they have no haulage :doh: but govt aint worried. they are reducing the test so more folk can be tested. they are cutting reversing etc from test:doh: just one of the most dangerous manouvers with a trailer
Apparently cycling proficiency is now acceptable!
Gary
Lol - I've read and re-read that about 10 times now, and it still makes no sense:scratch: Must do in your head, though, which is worrying!:lol::ner:
Marco.
HGV lorry driver test - you will no longer have to reverse. Government will offer a grant for the extra 200 miles each journey will take only in a forward direction... :)
Apparently cycling proficiency is now acceptable!
:lol:
HGV lorry driver test - you will no longer have to reverse. Government will offer a grant for the extra 200 miles each journey will take only in a forward direction... :)
Ah, lol. Makes more sense now. I was thinking tests for Covid (in reference to jabs)!:doh:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 20:18
With me, it's 'stool' pressure...:eyebrows:
Marco.
Absolutely, ignore it at your peril :eek:
I tried to ignore it last month when working in Blackpool, but eventually I had to leave the work and drive home, leaving me lad to finish the job (I have NEVER had a dump in a customer's toilet, and never will :nono:
The normally half hour drive took an uncomfortable 90 minutes thanks to bleedin' roadworks, but when I got home the front door and bathroom door were open, giving me a clear path :) Mrs. P had been alerted to my emergency, God bless her. That's devotion :kiss: I acquiesced to spousal pressure to clear the pebbledash afterwards though:)
I call it the “Turdin Shroud” a bit like the impression of Christ in cloth, but well you can guess the comparison :)
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Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 21:28
I call it the “Turdin Shroud” a bit like the impression of Christ in cloth, but well you can guess the comparison :)
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:D I like that, I will be using it in future!
Though I don't think I've done a proper Turdin Shroud since the Great Keswick Jennings Bitter Misadventure of 1978. It put the skids (forgive the pun) on a budding romance with a student nurse, and whenever I hear "Dreadlock Holiday" on the radio I still feel a twinge of sadness for what might have been :(
Lol - love it! Nothing worse than clenching your cheeks, trying to 'nip' a chocolate log that's desperate to pop out!:eyebrows: Never stifle a stool:nono:
FREE those Turtle Heads!:more::D
Marco.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 26,911 (30,597).
Deaths: 158 (201).
Hospitalisations: 836 (836).
The data for hospitalisations (new admissions) hasn't been updated since the 11th, so unfortunately we don't know what the score is in that respect. However, new cases is significantly down, as are deaths. which I thought would be the case. I just hope it's the beginning of a sustained downwards trend, which hopefully will be joined by hospitalisaions.
Let's see what tomorrow brings!:)
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2891 (2298).
Deaths: 4 (10).
Things seem to be stabilising in Wales, too.
What's the Scottish situation today, Granty?
Marco.
no scottish figures today. cock up on the data front.
hifi_dave
16-09-2021, 16:44
Are there any figures for the total number of people who are positive each day ?
We get figures for new cases but as time goes on, the earlier ones are no longer positive and therefore not a threat.
Are there any figures for the total number of people who are positive each day ?
We get figures for new cases but as time goes on, the earlier ones are no longer positive and therefore not a threat.
probably add a zero to a days total and double it(as there will be plenty not tested) to get an idea so if 50k, then 1mil at any time in england i'd think would be close
no scottish figures today. cock up on the data front.
Ok, let us know what they are as soon as you get an update.
Marco.
Are there any figures for the total number of people who are positive each day ?
We get figures for new cases but as time goes on, the earlier ones are no longer positive and therefore not a threat.
I understand why you'd ask that, but the point is, the less new cases there are, the less the virus is spreading, so as that figure starts to notably reduce, which it will, with the subsequent knock-on effect on hospitalisations and deaths, we'll know that the pandemic is nearing its end - certainly in terms of it being a major threat.
Therefore, everything stems from how many new cases there are each day:)
Marco.
Scottish numbers: 17 September 2021
Summary
5,529* new cases of COVID-19 reported
60,077* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
9.9%* of these were positive
30 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
87 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,037 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,150,157 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,798,938 have received their second dose
* The technical issues that prevented publication of yesterday’s confirmed COVID-19 cases and test positivity have now been resolved. The daily update above reflects the records processed by Public Health Scotland in the last 24 hours. Since the last update on 15 September (approximately 48 hour period) there have been 5,885 new confirmed positive cases.
Soldiers will be drafted in to drive ambulances in a bid to ease the "unprecedented" pressure on the NHS.
Scottish Ambulance Service chief executive Pauline Howie said logistical staff would also be made available to support paramedics and technicians.
Ms Howie said the impact of Covid had placed the service at its "highest level of escalation".
On Thursday, the Scottish government confirmed it had asked the MoD for military assistance.
Ms Howie was asked on BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme if it would mean soldiers driving NHS ambulances or army ambulances.
She said: "I would expect the former and we will be working through the details of that over the coming days."
Her comments came after it emerged an 86-year-old woman had to wait eight hours for an ambulance after falling and breaking her hip at home.
Lillian Briggs, who has Parkinson's, skin cancer and has had two heart attacks, was left lying on her kitchen floor in agony after blacking out.
a disgrace quite frankly. when my wife fell ill we had to wait 40 mins on one and she couldnt breathe. That was when there was no covid, so its an ongoing issue that has not been sorted.
dont know what rest of gb is like
This is hilarious from the Scottish Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care, Humza Yousaf. No wonder we cant get covid or ambulances sorted if he thought this was a great idea... Dickhead!
sure it didnt do his bad leg any good either.
https://youtu.be/eVsD7mKHlDM
i sincerely hope he didnt have to call an ambulance;)
hifi_dave
17-09-2021, 15:44
probably add a zero to a days total and double it(as there will be plenty not tested) to get an idea so if 50k, then 1mil at any time in england i'd think would be close
That is a scary 1 in 66 people if you are correct.
That is a scary 1 in 66 people if you are correct.
probably fairly close dave.
sorry david :)
People in Wales will need to show a pass proving they have been fully vaccinated or had a negative Covid test to attend clubs and large-scale events.
The new rules begin on 11 October.
Customers will be able to use an NHS Covid Pass to show they have been vaccinated, or had a negative lateral flow test in the past 48 hours.
The pass will be needed for clubs, indoor no-seating events with more than 500 people and outdoor no-seating events with more than 4,000 people.
It will also be required for any event with more than 10,000 people.
Passes will be available to anyone over the age of 16, though will only be compulsory for those aged over 18 to enter certain events.
It comes as Public Health Wales (PHW) reported eight further deaths with coronavirus and 2,618 new cases.
Night Time Industries Wales said they were disappointed by the decision which would "have a negative impact on businesses".
Scotland intends a similar thing I believe.
Yeah I heard that, mate. I don't have a massive issue with it being used for such events, and it only being a temporary measure, to help reduce spread of the virus (or so they say:rolleyes:). Del and I had to do the lateral flow test thing before we went to the music festival in Shrewsbury recently. No biggie.
I just hope it doesn't spread to the likes of pubs and restaurants - as that would be a real ball ache. I doubt that will happen though, as it would be hugely unpopular!
Stats coming in a mo for elsewhere in the UK...
Marco.
Stryder5
17-09-2021, 17:26
OK with Wales in effect having Covid Passports, will we have border controls between Wales and England both ways.:D
Seriously though, once a “case” has been identified how are they being treated? A cocktail of drugs has been trialed in America and documented as effective. (I sent a link to this previously). So if protecting the NHS and avoiding hospitalisation is paramount to our Government why aren’t they following this vigorously?
Follow the Science ?
Gary
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 32,651 (26,911).
Deaths: 178 (158).
Hospitalisations: 909 (836).
So a slight increase in new cases, although a general downwards trend still exists over the last 7 days. Deaths remain fairly stable. The good news is that hospitalisations (new admissions) have started to fall, albeit slightly. Let's hope it indicates a sustained trend.
In Wales (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2618 (2891).
Deaths: 8 (4).
Still pretty stable. with new cases dropping slightly.
Marco.
Yeah I heard that, mate. I don't have a massive issue with it being used for such events, and it only being a temporary measure, to help reduce spread of the virus (or so they say:rolleyes:). Del and I had to do the lateral flow test thing before we went to the music festival in Shrewsbury recently. No biggie.
I just hope it doesn't spread to the likes of pubs and restaurants - as that would be a real ball ache. I doubt that will happen though, as it would be hugely unpopular!
Stats coming in a mo for elsewhere in the UK...
Marco.
over 500 i think so unlikely in pubs etc.
OK with Wales in effect having Covid Passports, will we have border controls between Wales and England both ways.:D
Lol - you fancy being at the front line, keeping the riff-raff out?:D
It's not 'Covid passports' though, which is a different thing, simply evidence being sought of vaccination at large events, or proof of a negative test. I doubt that either will be required when new cases and hospitalisations start to drop considerably, which they will, and we come out of the pandemic.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
17-09-2021, 17:45
OK with Wales in effect having Covid Passports, will we have border controls between Wales and England both ways.:D
Seriously though, once a “case” has been identified how are they being treated? A cocktail of drugs has been trialed in America and documented as effective. (I sent a link to this previously). So if protecting the NHS and avoiding hospitalisation is paramount to our Government why aren’t they following this vigorously?
Follow the Science ?
Gary
Maybe the government would rather see our clinically vulnerable get sick and die, and the economy go down the the toilet, than have our own pharmaceutical companies lose out. Sounds like a vote loser to me though.
Or maybe they're hmm, I don't know, incompetent? Unlikely, I know :rolleyes:
Stryder5
17-09-2021, 18:05
Lol - you fancy being at the front line, keeping the riff-raff out?:D
It's not 'Covid passports' though, which is a different thing, simply evidence being sought of vaccination at large events, or proof of a negative test. I doubt that either will be required when new cases and hospitalisations start to drop considerably, which they will, and we come out of the pandemic.
Marco.
Already there ...Brandenwales Gate....the wall’s coming :D
As I said “in effect” a passport, whatever it’s called.
Gary
Lol - I can supply the weaponry :eyebrows:
Similar, in some ways yes, but not the same, as an app isn't an officially produced document. It's not vaccine certification, as had been muted, and of course can't be a vaccine passport if said pass is valid with proof a negative test (but no vaccine).
Stryder5
17-09-2021, 18:36
Maybe the government would rather see our clinically vulnerable get sick and die, and the economy go down the the toilet, than have our own pharmaceutical companies lose out. Sounds like a vote loser to me though.
Or maybe they're hmm, I don't know, incompetent? Unlikely, I know :rolleyes:
As I may have said before about the Government:-
“It’s not that they can’t see the solution, they don’t recognise the problem!”.
I’ll go on about masks again. The problem is NO ONE uses them correctly. The Science says it’s a good idea......but used in a prescripted way.
Close fitting
No vents
No touching
Sanitising
Now just go and observe in your local town how they’re used...FFS. Is everyone in power blind.
Masks, the way they are being used, are the biggest spreader of contamination!!!
Reality beats science every way.
Incompetence doesn’t cover it!
Gary
i never go to busy places so it wont affect me. im double jabbed but no idea how to prove it, or have any inclination at moment. i dont do busy;)
Pierre De Grenoble
17-09-2021, 18:54
People in Wales will need to show a pass proving they have been fully vaccinated or had a negative Covid test to attend clubs and large-scale events.
The new rules begin on 11 October.
Customers will be able to use an NHS Covid Pass to show they have been vaccinated, or had a negative lateral flow test in the past 48 hours.
The pass will be needed for clubs, indoor no-seating events with more than 500 people and outdoor no-seating events with more than 4,000 people.
It will also be required for any event with more than 10,000 people.
Passes will be available to anyone over the age of 16, though will only be compulsory for those aged over 18 to enter certain events.
It comes as Public Health Wales (PHW) reported eight further deaths with coronavirus and 2,618 new cases.
Night Time Industries Wales said they were disappointed by the decision which would "have a negative impact on businesses".
Scotland intends a similar thing I believe.
I've got tickets to see Nile Rogers on Sunday afternoon down the bay open air and the above rules are already in force.
Stryder5
17-09-2021, 19:45
i never go to busy places so it wont affect me. im double jabbed but no idea how to prove it, or have any inclination at moment. i dont do busy;)
Hope they sanitise car showroom doors, car doors, steering wheel, seats, leaflets etc.
Fuel pumps, cash machines, filling station doors.....
Gary
They say they do but I've never seen anyone do it.
I've got tickets to see Nile Rogers on Sunday afternoon down the bay open air and the above rules are already in force.
The thing that gets me with this is their automatic presumption that *everyone* will have a smartphone, in order to avail of said pass.
There are many thousands of people who don't (for all sorts of valid reasons), or even if they have one, the technical wherewithal to access/download the app. So what do they do, especially if they can't afford a smartphone? They're effectively alienated.
There's also an automatic presumption that those who haven't been vaccinated (count me in), wishing to attend such evens, and therefore obtain said Covid pass via proof of a negative test, have a computer/access to the Internet, and the technical wherewithal to transfer that information to wherever it needs to go, in order that the pass is activated and valid for the event.
And to my knowledge, none of that has been properly explained, discussed, or help provided to assist those who come into the above category. Therefore the thinking seems to be: 'Either comply with the habits of modern society (i.e. be a smartphone/savvy computer owner), and become the mindless clone that the powers that be want you to be, or effectively be an outcast'!:doh:
It's both unfair and discriminatory.
Marco.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271851/smartphone-owners-in-the-united-kingdom-uk-by-age/
apparently apart from oldies most do.. your laggin' mate:ner:
Pierre De Grenoble
18-09-2021, 07:42
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271851/smartphone-owners-in-the-united-kingdom-uk-by-age/
apparently apart from oldies most do.. your laggin' mate:ner:
wot he said :lol:, thing is I just started pulling my state pension an I can't see me ever being an oldie....
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271851/smartphone-owners-in-the-united-kingdom-uk-by-age/
apparently apart from oldies most do.. your laggin' mate:ner:
Lol, we can giggle, but that's not the point is it? In a democracy and supposedly FREE society, no-one's legal free choices, simply because they don't conform to the norm, should end up controlling or restricting their freedom!
Plus, as I said, what if it's not about 'lagging behind', and you'd like a smartphone but can't afford one? So you just accept being treated as a second-class citizen? Is that right or fair?
Marco.
And besides, what the stats show is just how sheep-like the brainwashed masses are!:ner::D Always, they MUST have the latest new thing... Lemmings Utd, lol.
Just look at the queues outside phone shops when Apple introduce the latest 'must have' new model!! :mental::mental: Idiots.
Marco.
walpurgis
18-09-2021, 08:17
wot he said :lol:, thing is I just started pulling my state pension an I can't see me ever being an oldie....
That's what I said. I seem to be turning old and clapped out though regardless. I don't think it though..............I think :)..............
Lol, we can giggle, but that's not the point is it? In a democracy and supposedly FREE society, no-one's legal free choices, simply because they don't conform to the norm, should end up limiting or controlling their freedom!
Plus, as I said, what if it's not about 'lagging behind', and you'd like a smartphone but can't afford one? So you just accept being treated as a second-class citizen? Is that right or fair?
Marco.
well you can pick up smart phones quite cheap tbh. you dont even need to use it as a phone either. handy too if you dont have a map or satnav. google is free and plenty dounloadable apps you can use from home to download .
im a tenner a month for my service which is way more than i use. i could do it cheaper tho. you can switch off gps if you want or just have phone off when not needing it.
but i preaching to myself i know :ner: luddite
well you can pick up smart phones quite cheap tbh. you dont even need to use it as a phone either. handy too if you dont have a map or satnav. google is free and plenty dounloadable apps you can use from home to download .
im a tenner a month for my service which is way more than i use. i could do it cheaper tho. you can switch off gps if you want or just have phone off when not needing it.
but i preaching to myself i know :ner: luddite
Lol... How cheap is "quite cheap", and then you have to factor in a contract, which aren't you tied into for at least a year? I take your point though, but that doesn't negate the one I made earlier, and how discriminatory it is.
They should make paper passes available for those who a) don't have a smartphone, and b) are useless with technology. My dad, for example, wouldn't have the slightest scooby-doo. Not that he'd be wanting to go to a nightclub or gig anytime soon!:D
Marco.
i think you can get a paper pass here. https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-prove-your-vaccination-status
brand new sony phone example. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149240754?hash=item46d0b51bb2:g:xM8AAOSw471hQ35 v
you can buy monthly sim cards or one when you want one from here and other places. https://www.giffgaff.com/
a old new xperia xz1.. good phone; ive got one. a bit dearer but these were originally over 700 quid
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149270846?hash=item46d0b5913e:g:a1cAAOSw0lNhQ4H N
rmcin626
18-09-2021, 10:49
i think you can get a paper pass here. https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-prove-your-vaccination-status
brand new sony phone example. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149240754?hash=item46d0b51bb2:g:xM8AAOSw471hQ35 v
you can buy monthly sim cards or one when you want one from here and other places. https://www.giffgaff.com/
a old new xperia xz1.. good phone; ive got one. a bit dearer but these were originally over 700 quid
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149270846?hash=item46d0b5913e:g:a1cAAOSw0lNhQ4H N
Thanks Grant, just reminded me I have couple IPhones I need to sell.
Thanks Grant, just reminded me I have couple IPhones I need to sell.
i still have an old iphone; out of date now tho. think its a 4 lol. got an old samsung that was a decent phone in day too
i think you can get a paper pass here. https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-prove-your-vaccination-status
Thanks for that. However, see here: https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-prove-your-vaccination-status#section-70622
Noting: "You should only request a paper COVID Pass if: you have had a full course of the COVID-19 vaccine (you should wait 5 days after your final dose before requesting it)"
So looks like you can't get one via a negative lateral flow test, only a full course of the vaccine. Therefore, that's unfair and discriminatory, especially when a negative test is stated as being valid qualification for a Covid pass.
Also, can you see instructions anywhere for how to use a negative lateral flow test to generate a Covid pass?
brand new sony phone example. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149240754?hash=item46d0b51bb2:g:xM8AAOSw471hQ35 v
you can buy monthly sim cards or one when you want one from here and other places. https://www.giffgaff.com/
a old new xperia xz1.. good phone; ive got one. a bit dearer but these were originally over 700 quid
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304149270846?hash=item46d0b5913e:g:a1cAAOSw0lNhQ4H N
Thanks for that, and noted:)
Marco.
rmcin626
18-09-2021, 11:00
i still have an old iphone; out of date now tho. think its a 4 lol. got an old samsung that was a decent phone in day too
i still have iPhone XR, which is still a fairly decent , also an iPhone 7 and 6 I think
Thanks for that. However, see here: https://gov.wales/nhs-covid-pass-prove-your-vaccination-status#section-70622
Noting: "You should only request a paper COVID Pass if: you have had a full course of the COVID-19 vaccine (you should wait 5 days after your final dose before requesting it)"
So looks like you can't get one via a negative lateral flow test, only a full course of the vaccine. Therefore, that's unfair and discriminatory, especially when a negative test is stated as being valid qualification for a Covid pass.
Also, can you see instructions anywhere of how to use a negative lateral flow test to generate a Covid pass?
Thanks for that, and noted:)
Marco.
lady princess maybe could tho.. oh she has a phone anyway.. cancel that lol..
forgot you didnt take the vax..
looks like you maybe could use del's phone to report the test and get a code on it... guess it wont last long tho. maybe bite bullet now and get the jabs. they appear pretty safe tbh.
lady princess maybe could tho.. oh she has a phone anyway.. cancel that lol..
forgot you didnt take the vax..
looks like you maybe could use del's phone to report the test and get a code on it... guess it wont last long tho. maybe bite bullet now and get the jabs. they appear pretty safe tbh.
Lol, no chance. If or when that happens, it won't be until next year, at the very earliest, after I've analysed any medium-term side effects of the vaccines (and other factors).
I don't need a Covid pass at the moment, as I'm not planning on going to any big events, but would like to know how to obtain one if I need it, and yes I will get Del to look into that, as they don't exactly make it clear.
The point is though, if a negative lateral flow test is stated as being a valid qualification for a Covid pass, then that should apply to the paper one, too!!
Marco.
indeed it should. it can easily have a time limit printed in to the code; probably has in the app one. you of course might be able to get one but they are just being coy as its easier for them to do it on app i guess.
Or more like, it's just part of their drive towards a digital society!;)
And they can fuck off with that, too.
Marco.
anthonyTD
18-09-2021, 12:30
Just saying!!!
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/ron-paul-the-people-who-are-dying-of-covid-are-the-ones-who-took-the-vaccine_ZyUMQGg8dOtrGUq.html
Scottish numbers: 18 September 2021
Summary
6,116* new cases of COVID-19 reported
73,358* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
9.0% of these were positive
27 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
99 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,052 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,151,735 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,802,183 have received their second dose
* There may be variability in the number of new cases and tests reported in the latest 24 hour period. This is due to a backlog of data being processed following technical issues affecting reporting on 16 September 2021.
New cases creeping up again... I've seen that happen before in Wales, then drop back down to precious levels, so hopefully just a spike.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 30,144 (32,651).
Deaths: 164 (178).
Hospitalisations: 932 (909).
So both new cases and hospitalisations have continued to fall over a 7-day period. Let's hope that continues. Deaths remain stable.
New new updates on data for Wales.
Marco.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 29.612 (30.144).
Deaths: 56 (164).
Hospitalisations: 932 (909).
The figure for hospitalisations hasn't been updated from the 14th September, hence stays the same. The other figures are probably lower because it's a Sunday, so we'll see where we are tomorrow, and notably Tuesday.
What's interesting though, is if you look at where things stood last Sunday (with previous day's figures in brackets)....
Positive tests: 29,173 (29,547).
Deaths: 56 (156).
Hospitalisations: 1073 (1063).
Pretty similar to today, but with less hospitalisations. I guess there's one thing you can say, at least for now, is that the situation isn't getting worse (in England)!:)
In Wales today (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2717 (2618).
Deaths: 15 (8).
Small rise in cases and deaths, but nothing major.
How's Jockland looking, Granty?
Marco.
about same i'd think.. being sunday most deaths are not reported. 9% of tests so its a better level than last week.
Scottish numbers: 19 September 2021
Summary
3,833* new cases of COVID-19 reported
45,985* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
9.1% of these were positive
2 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends)
100 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,074 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,155,048 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,806,980 have received their second dose
*There may be variability in the number of new cases and tests reported in the latest 24 hour period. This is due to a backlog of data being processed following technical issues affecting reporting on 16th September 2021.
Bksabath
20-09-2021, 07:11
Now the Lancet U-turns over Covid lab leak theory | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10005295/Now-Lancet-U-turns-Covid-lab-leak-theory.html)
An appeal for an objective, open, and transparent scientific debate about the origin of SARS-CoV-2 - The Lancet (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02019-5/fulltext)
Fauci was ‘up to his neck’ funding coronavirus research in Wuhan - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFoAczoHbV0)
anthonyTD
20-09-2021, 09:54
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=84851
anthonyTD
20-09-2021, 10:16
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/09/19/bombshell-fda-allows-whistleblower-testimony-yes-covid-vaxxs-are-killing-and-harming-people
nearly 11% pos tests today but no Gramian this time.
Scottish numbers: 20 September 2021
Summary
2,917* new cases of COVID-19 reported
29,098* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
10.8%* of these were positive
0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed on weekends)
97 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,088 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,157,613 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,810,775 have received their second dose
*Please note that NHS Grampian Lab have not submitted lab files since Saturday 18 September, investigation into this issue is ongoing.
Points taken mate, and no doubt valid, but regardless, it's been a while since new cases have been under the 3k mark in Scotland. I bet the figure was higher last Monday, with similar caveats:)
Anyway, we'll see how things stand later today...
Yesterday in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 36,000 (29,612).
Deaths: 49 (56).
Hospitalisations: 930 (932).
New cases a little up, but that'll only be because the previous figures were taken on a Sunday. I wouldn't expect today's figures later to be much higher, if at all, as there's still been a downwards trend in general over the last 7 days.
Interestingly, deaths still remain lower than normal, so I'd expect that to rise a little today, with the usual catch up in data. And hospitalisations are also down over the last 7 days. I wouldn't expect to see too much of an increase today. and hope that we can see figures remaining below the 1000 threshold, and much lower soon.
In Wales yesterday (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below):
New cases: 2576 (2717).
Deaths: 7 (15).
So things remain stable here, too. We'll see how the stats look later.
Marco.
again much fewer than normal tested; under 30k and near 12% positive but numbers stay down. 18 deaths
Scottish numbers: 21 September 2021
Summary
2,870* new cases of COVID-19 reported
26,593* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
11.7%* of these were positive
18 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
94 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
1,107 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,160,835 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,813,547 have received their second dose
Sure, but I think it's still a positive sign. Were the Grampian lab tests in this time?
Marco.
anthonyTD
21-09-2021, 14:51
Another nugget for you to ponder over especialy those of you who still think this shit is safe for everyone, maybe when its your Kid, or Grandkid left with a life long busted heart you might consider altering your mindset, but for now we'll just keep burying our heads in the sand shall we, and hope its someone else's kid. :doh:
When are folk going to take their head out of their arses, and smell the coffee, time is fast running out.:steam::steam::steam:
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/09/20/slides-from-the-online-meeting-of-people-advising-the-fda
Especially as there's a boost of more 'shit' to come!:eek:
Marco.
anthonyTD
21-09-2021, 15:09
You know what mate, i am so fucking angry right now i could scream! :steam:
Especially as there's a boost of more 'shit' to come!:eek:
Marco.
trouble is covid also gives many myocarditis.
So what is it then: a case of choose the lesser of the two evils? :doh:
Anyway, I think some better news with today's figures, incorporating the usual 'Tuesday hike'...
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 31,564 (36,000).
Deaths: 203 (49).
Hospitalisations: 861 (930).
It was pretty obvious that the death figures for the last two days were artificially low, so the increase will be the 'catch up' expected from the weekend, although I didn't expect it to top the 200 mark. I think we'll see that reduce to the usual 180 or so tomorrow.
However, the good news is that new cases are down, continuing the downwards trend over the last 7 days, and as it's Tuesday I think we can safely say that's as accurate a figure as we're likely to get, in terms of the current spread of the virus among the population, and I'd like to think it'll come down further as we get to the weekend.
Arguably though, the most encouraging news is that hospitalisations are once again down, maintaining a downwards trend of nearly 12% over the last week, so long may that continue! If that figure continues to fall, in line with new cases, then I think we can safely say that we're past the worst of the peak of this third wave.
Let's see where we are tomorrow!
The figures for Wales, as yet , haven't been updated from yesterday.
Marco.
i believe covid is more likely than the vax, but folk need to see correct figures. make their own minds up on it. Parents and kids tho will be final arbritors. I believe my oldest grandson is getting it, or already has. He is just 14 yesterday.
The thing is mate, the stats show kids that age have very little chance of developing severe symptoms (or certainly dying) from Covid, so they're being used as a tool to (arguably) try and stop the spread...
So would you want your kid, or grandson, used as a pawn/guinea pig like that, and effectively playing Russian roulette with their long-term health or lives?:doh::rolleyes:
It's fucking madness!
Marco.
The thing is mate, the stats show kids that age have very little chance of developing severe symptoms (or certainly dying) from Covid, so they're being used as a tool to (arguably) try and stop the spread...
So would you want your kid, or your grandson, used as a pawn/guinea pig like that?:doh::rolleyes:
It's fucking madness!
Marco.
so your saying they shouldnt have the choice, just like you and others have choice not to?
Yes, there should always be choice, but it's a terrible position parents are being put in, especially when being pressurised by the government and authorities to vaccinate their kids. Many will just 'go with the flow', rather than doing their own research, before making a decision, with potentially disastrous results!
Marco.
anthonyTD
21-09-2021, 16:34
They don't have a choice to have a face painting without parents consent, but hey, you know your own mind enough to take un-tested posibly life threatening procedure without any parental consent, do you see where the problem i am trying to get at here, why is getting this shit into as many people as posible, [now talking about giving to new borns] so important to these control freaks, when they know they have zero chance of creating herd immunity that way, even the Croation prime minister has recently thrown in the towel and stated they will jab no more of its people!!! Guess he'l be watching his back from now on, as he may end up like at least five other prime ministers who refused to play the game.
so your saying they shouldnt have the choice, just like you and others have choice not to?
i give up... im out of it.
https://inews.co.uk/news/covid-vaccine-12-to-15-year-old-can-get-without-parent-consent-children-jab-roll-out-1197935
Research on millions of people who've had the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) shows there's a tiny risk of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart, which is more common in young people - and particularly younger boys - after a second dose. It can cause chest pain and a pounding heart, but symptoms usually clear up in days.
No vaccine or drug is ever 100% safe, and data from the US shows the numbers of children affected are very small.
For every million Pfizer second doses given to 12-17-year-old-boys, around 60 had the condition (compared with 8 in a million among girls). The rates in this age group are higher than in older ones - and it's why only one dose for 16 and 17-year-olds in the UK has been recommended, for now.
But being infected with Covid has consequences for teenagers' health too - including their hearts - so how big is that risk?
A recent US study suggests having Covid-19 could be six times more likely to trigger myocarditis in young men than the vaccine, with a rate of about 450 per million infections.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58423152
anthonyTD
21-09-2021, 16:49
Your choice mate, this is how it often ends with folk here who refuse to see the other persons valid point of view! Sorry, but if my rantings save one chld from a potentialy devastating long term illness, then at least i feel i have done something, and for what, a posible point one % reduction in the minute chance they might die from Covid, when the chance of that happening is already so low, its been sugested that if your a kid between 5 and 15 your more likely to get struck by lightning!
i give up... im out of it.
I think both your points and ways of looking at the situation are valid, and deserve to be respected, but please don't fall out.
We all need to respect someone else's right to think differently, or assess risk differently from us and make allowances for that - and most of all not take umbrage when someone else challenges our opinions or what we believe is true, in reference to this pandemic or otherwise.
If you get pissed off because someone's alternative views make you question your own, then unfortunately that says more about you than them, so simply don't react like that, as it helps nothing or no-one, especially walking off in a huff when someone refuses to agree with your way of reasoning.
For me, the fact that we're still able to think and act differently from each other is something we should all value very highly. In future, there may come a time when that simple act of human behaviour is no longer available to us, so long live free thinking and our right to live as individuals!:)
Marco.
Stryder5
21-09-2021, 18:50
i give up... im out of it.
https://inews.co.uk/news/covid-vaccine-12-to-15-year-old-can-get-without-parent-consent-children-jab-roll-out-1197935
Research on millions of people who've had the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) shows there's a tiny risk of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart, which is more common in young people - and particularly younger boys - after a second dose. It can cause chest pain and a pounding heart, but symptoms usually clear up in days.
No vaccine or drug is ever 100% safe, and data from the US shows the numbers of children affected are very small.
For every million Pfizer second doses given to 12-17-year-old-boys, around 60 had the condition (compared with 8 in a million among girls). The rates in this age group are higher than in older ones - and it's why only one dose for 16 and 17-year-olds in the UK has been recommended, for now.
But being infected with Covid has consequences for teenagers' health too - including their hearts - so how big is that risk?
A recent US study suggests having Covid-19 could be six times more likely to trigger myocarditis in young men than the vaccine, with a rate of about 450 per million infections.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58423152
When links refer to recent studies without links to the studies, then Marco would say “where are the sources”?
Quite rightly so!
Gary
Pigmy Pony
21-09-2021, 21:09
Lol... How cheap is "quite cheap", and then you have to factor in a contract, which aren't you tied into for at least a year? I take your point though, but that doesn't negate the one I made earlier, and how discriminatory it is.
They should make paper passes available for those who a) don't have a smartphone, and b) are useless with technology. My dad, for example, wouldn't have the slightest scooby-doo. Not that he'd be wanting to go to a nightclub or gig anytime soon!:D
Marco.
I get annoyed at not being able to post pics on here just because I'm useless with technology :( Unfair and discriminatory!
As for mobile phone costs - you can buy an earlier iPhone for about £50, and then use a sim-only contract (mine's a bit dearer than Grant's at £12 per month). A pittance compared to what going to concerts festivals and sporting events costs these days :)
Cool... Is that like the one you hide in your 'secret drawer', for Facetimes with Bev?:eyebrows:
Swapping naughty pictures can be fun, although her legs versus your wee willie-winky, is a bit of a non-contest!:D
Marco.
Bksabath
22-09-2021, 09:50
Odds Increase that SARS CoV-2 was Lab Made - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfoZHX-BJzQ)
There you go ...
How long has it been that I first posted about it
anthonyTD
22-09-2021, 13:28
And for what its worth, i think your absolutely right mate,
I have no intention of falling out with anyone here, and if my tone come's over that way sometimes, then i sincerely appologise, i have always managed to stand my ground even when things get a little heated,especialy when i think my point of view is worth considering, i guess that comes from the type of upbringing i had, as many of you can see by the amount of info [hopefully mostly valid and of interest to some here] i have put up here over the last year or so should help you to understand that this has been one subject that has not made much sense to me from the begining, and the more i looked into what the many credible people who were coming forward with alternative info than we were getting from the main stream media, the more i started to dig, needless to say i am amongst many people from around the world that refuse to accept that we are being told anywhere near the truth about any of this, and thus its the reason i have spent so much of my time on it, i have many other things i could have put that time into instead, but i feel this is such a huge problem that we are facing at the moment, that it deserves the time i can spare, and hopefully by doing so my ramblings may have inspired others here and else where to start doing some independant research themselves.
I think both your points and ways of looking at the situation are valid, and deserve to be respected, but please don't fall out.
We all need to respect someone else's right to think differently, or assess risk differently from us and make allowances for that - and most of all not take umbrage when someone else challenges our opinions or what we believe is true, in reference to this pandemic or otherwise.
If you get pissed off because someone's alternative views make you question your own, then unfortunately that says more about you than them, so simply don't react like that, as it helps nothing or no-one, especially walking off in a huff when someone refuses to agree with your way of reasoning.
For me, the fact that we're still able to think and act differently from each other is something we should all value very highly. In future, there may come a time when that simple act of human behaviour is no longer available to us, so long live free thinking and our right to live as individuals!:)
Marco.
No worries, mate. Just basically saying that everyone's views expressed here on vaccines (or otherwise) are valid, but once they've been expressed, yet perhaps not accepted by others, then the best thing to do is simply for everyone to 'agree to disagree' and move on - as friends!
As you've said, there's really no need for anyone to fall out, or to strop posting on this thread, simply because they don't like or agree with something.
Marco.
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 34.460 (31,564).
Deaths: 166 (203).
Hospitalisations: 747 (861).
So... Some more good news! Despite a slight rise in new cases (although still showing a downwards trend in the last 7 days), hospitalisations continue to fall, and which are down nearly 14% over the last 7 days. Also, as predicted, deaths are notably down from yesterday's 'Tuesday hike' high of 203.
I'd expect the daily deaths figure to average at around the 160 mark for the next few weeks, until the drop in hospitalisations notably impacts on it, and therefore will start to fall at a similar rate. We just need to keep an eye on the new cases figure, and hope that starts to notably fall soon, with the inevitable positive impact on everything else!
Still, for now, some reasons to be cheerful:)
In Wales today (with previous day's figures shown in brackets):
New cases: 2485 (2576)
Deaths: 10 (7)
Currently things remain stable.
How's Scotland looking, Granty?
Marco.
And now this (very important) message, if you truly value and strenuously seek to protect your civil liberties, see here: https://mailchi.mp/bigbrotherwatch/64956661-6495821?e=9509ffdbfa
I'd urge everyone who qualifies to email their MS or MSP (as outlined in the link) and fight against these odious 'vaccine passports' that, quite simply, are an affront to life in a supposedly democratic and free country!
So, TOGETHER, my friends, let's defeat the closet fascists, who currently govern us, and ensure that PEOPLE POWER wins the day, and that most importantly, FREEDOM triumphs over control and oppression!!
:exactly::more::clap::clap:
Marco.
How's Scotland looking, Granty?
:popcorn:
We need the Scottish stats, dude:)
Marco.
So how are things today in Scotland, Granty? I did ask you this yesterday!:wave::whistle::popcorn: ;)
Today in the UK (with the previous day's figures shown in brackets below) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/:
Positive tests: 36,710 (34,460).
Deaths: 182 (166).
Hospitalisations: 714 (747).
New cases are still rising, so we'll need to watch that, however deaths remain at around the mark expected, and hospitalisations have fallen yet again. If we can get the new cases down and under control, then going forward things will be much better.
In Wales today (with previous day's figures shown in brackets):
New cases: 2476 (2485)
Deaths: 5 (10)
Still fairly stable in Wales. However, I hope that new cases start to fall a little quicker soon.
Marco.
37 deaths and 8% positivity. rest are about same. deaths were high yesterday too
How many new cases were there today?:)
I liked that BBC thing you used to post, but for some reason have stopped doing so....
Marco.
Cant remember exactly. Pc is having issues.. About 4k i think
f!!!, both pcs got issues now:doh: and i just fell...:rolleyes: dun my good leg now
Jeez mate, take it easy...
Marco.
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