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Marco

08-03-2021, 18:25

might let her get the big 500 new one.. or pref the mini clubman etc.

but she will likely enjoy a test in the jeep so wait off and see how she gets one with one. mini was a thought for me as its fairly big, but i think its too low. not sure tho. the x1 looks high enough and is estate type.. volvo c40 is even dearer, and although i like it maybe too dear. not sure how much spare cash i will have to fling at it, or want to

As you know, she was looking at Minis, the Clubman in particular, but when she seen that red Jeep on The Ghost Whisperer, that was it... 'I **WANT** one of those!!!' Lol...

She wouldn't touch any Volvo with a bargepole mate, not her type of car. Or were you talking about for you?:)

Marco.

Marco

08-03-2021, 18:25

Rather have the Fiat 126 than the Beetle.

Rather have anything than a Beetle. A horse and cart. A French car even.

Interesting you mention French, as she wouldn't mind a red 2CV!:D

Marco.

struth

08-03-2021, 18:41

As you know, she was looking at Minis, the Clubman in particular, but when she seen that red Jeep on The Ghost Whisperer, that was it... 'I **WANT** one of those!!!' Lol...

She wouldn't touch any Volvo with a bargepole mate, not her type of car. Or were you talking about for you?:)

Marco.

no the volvo was me.. the clubman was both of us:eyebrows: my first issue with a car is can i get in. second is can my scooter get in. after that its toys and looks etc. performace too but behind the toys... i do like my toys....you know the type:eyebrows::eyebrows:

Macca

08-03-2021, 20:09

Interesting you mention French, as she wouldn't mind a red 2CV!:D

Marco.

At least the 2CV doesn't fill the cabin with exhaust fumes as part of the design. And it has a suspension system that isn't just pretend.

I think the jeep is the best choice. Cool car for a lady.

Marco

08-03-2021, 21:31

no the volvo was me.. the clubman was both of us:eyebrows: my first issue with a car is can i get in. second is can my scooter get in. after that its toys and looks etc. performace too but behind the toys... i do like my toys....you know the type:eyebrows::eyebrows:

:eyebrows::D

Wot, you and Del?;)

Marco.

Marco

08-03-2021, 21:35

At least the 2CV doesn't fill the cabin with exhaust fumes as part of the design. And it has a suspension system that isn't just pretend.

I think the jeep is the best choice. Cool car for a lady.

Yeah mate, I agree. It would suit her down to the ground, so we'll be taking a look when lockdown is properly over:)

Looks cool in red too, doesn't it? Ultimately she'd want it in bubble-gum pink, but there's NO way I'm having something like THAT sat on our driveway!:D:nono:

Marco.

Stryder5

09-03-2021, 18:20

https://www.facebook.com/1timothy4.11/videos/264740681697010/

Pigmy Pony

10-03-2021, 16:37

https://www.facebook.com/1timothy4.11/videos/264740681697010/

Don't know what we're supposed to be looking at - all I'm getting is a banner inviting me to "get started". I would never join Facebook, not even if it came with a free clock radio. :nono:

Macca

10-03-2021, 17:19

I don't know, a free clock radio would tempt me in. Providing it's in a 1970s style wood-effect finish. And the numbers are on cards that flip over, not that new-fangled LED thing.

Perhaps someone who's already on Facebook could mention it to the bloke that runs it? I heard he has a few bob in the post office, sure he could afford it.

Pigmy Pony

10-03-2021, 17:27

Fair enough, I'd have one of those.

Those adverts for "over 50s" plans, the ones that come with a free radio alarm clock might look tempting for some, but knowing my luck the first night I plug it in will be the night I drop dead in my sleep :(

Macca

10-03-2021, 18:12

I got some new binoculars with mine.

Macca

10-03-2021, 18:16

That bloke who drops dead and there's not even five grand to cover his funeral. House looks pretty flash though. I suppose his attitude was that you can't take it with you.

Marco

10-03-2021, 18:33

Don't know what we're supposed to be looking at - all I'm getting is a banner inviting me to "get started". I would never join Facebook, not even if it came with a free clock radio. :nono:

Lol, I don't 'do' Facebook either, or indeed any other form of social media. Del's different, she's on most of them to chat with her friends.

But (sorry, Gary) one of my pet hates is random links posted, which don't fully explain their point. Far better to outline your point first (introduce it properly) and then back it up with a link.

Marco.

Barry

10-03-2021, 18:53

I don't 'do' Facebook or any other form of social media - so I ignore posts which have links to them. I also ignore posts which have links to newspaper items.

Pigmy Pony

10-03-2021, 18:54

I got some new binoculars with mine.

Don't need binoculars, I got some free ones as part of the estate of a distant cousin of Anita's (as she was the only living relative that could be found). Along with about 11 quid in coins and a very nice Canon digital camera. Not meaning to sound homophobic or ageist, but as much as Anita has tried to scrub her eyeballs with bleach, she cannot unsee the pictures her 77 year old gay cousin had left on that camera :eek:

Filterlab

10-03-2021, 19:43

I would never join Facebook, not even if it came with a free clock radio. :nono:

What?! You mean you wouldn't join the data-rape and sale platform? Whyever not?! :lol:

I too don't touch that place with a barge pole, or WhatsApp. Being in IT I know exactly what they help themselves to. I don't touch any social media platforms these days - it's all run by cretinous thieves.

Beobloke

10-03-2021, 20:19

I don't 'do' Facebook or any other form of social media - so I ignore posts which have links to them. I also ignore posts which have links to newspaper items.

Hang on, if you know the post had a Faceache link in it then you haven’t done a very good job of ignoring it, have you?

;)

Marco

10-03-2021, 20:34

I too don't touch that place with a barge pole, or WhatsApp. Being in IT I know exactly what they help themselves to. I don't touch any social media platforms these days - it's all run by cretinous thieves.

Could you elaborate on that, Rob, in terms of what they steal and how they do it? I'd appreciate your erudite insight on that:)

Marco.

Filterlab

10-03-2021, 21:31

It's way too much to go into on here, but when you have a couple of hours, have a look through their AUP. They can harvest a lot of personal data - and they're about to 'loosen' their security limits, meaning more data will be "theirs" (in their minds) and so they have the right to distribute it as they see fit.

It's why all social media is "free"; but it's far from that in reality.

Have a quick read for a brief overview (https://www.reviews.org/internet-service/what-data-does-facebook-collect/).

Marco

10-03-2021, 21:50

Cheers, mate. Much as I suspected. And yet folk live their lives on these dumbass platforms:rolleyes:

It's truly a mug's game!

Marco.

Filterlab

10-03-2021, 22:06

Indeed.

Barry

10-03-2021, 22:59

Hang on, if you know the post had a Faceache link in it then you haven’t done a very good job of ignoring it, have you?

;)

By ignore, I mean if I see a link to any form of social media, or to a newspaper item, I proceed no further. I certainly do not click on the link.

Macca

11-03-2021, 07:37

I do. And I do it with devil-may-care abandon. :D

Marco

11-03-2021, 10:29

Gosh, with such reckless devilment it's no wonder you're a big hit with the girls!:D

Marco.

Macca

11-03-2021, 12:40

Filterlab

11-03-2021, 14:50

I do. And I do it with devil-may-care abandon. :D

:lol:

mad-moon

11-03-2021, 15:53

Macca

11-03-2021, 17:06

everyone's always trying to sell something. If it's not a product, it's an idea.

Filterlab

11-03-2021, 17:16

Yep, they may be. But it's still accurate what's said.

In the same way I sell my experience and knowledge of Mac computers to my clients, but the free advice I give is accurate and true nonetheless.

Macca

11-03-2021, 17:45

It is accurate but I'd argue that its not new information to anyone who cares.

Seems to me to be voluntary entering into a contract. You get to use their platform to interact with other people. In exchange they profile you and sell that profile to people who want to sell you goods and services.

That's really all it is and I have no idea why anyone gets their knickers in a twist. All this 'They're harvesting your data' as though they were harvesting your soul. When in fact they just want to know stuff like what brand of chocolate digestives you buy. And whether you can afford to buy choccie biccies in the first place.

99.999% of people don't have any more interesting or useful data to harvest than that.

Marco

11-03-2021, 18:08

I agree, but there are also other distinct dangers in publicising your life to all and sundry on these sites, including a gazillion pictures of yourself or your kids, and which the dimwits who do it (and who simply can't function without engaging in some form of social media every hour of the day, or generating 'friends' or followers, sad bastards), simply don't seem to get!:doh:

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

11-03-2021, 18:55

You got it!

I never seen what the big deal is, so they profile you and sell that profile to people who want to flog you tat. Not exactly 1984 is it?

Nothing like as annoying as those twats calling you on the 'phone trying to flog insurance or some other crap. I'd take them out in the parking lot and shoot them in the face.

This is the way I see it. I'm not concerned about my data being "harvested, I choose to avoid MyArseYourFaceBook et al because I haven't the time and even less interest. Just making sense of the nonsense you guys post takes up as much of my time as I'm prepared to give :ner:

Macca

11-03-2021, 19:13

My nonsense is very time-consuming it is true.

Macca

11-03-2021, 19:17

I agree, but there are also other distinct dangers of publicising your life to all and sundry on these sites, including pictures of yourself or your kids, and which the dimwits who do it (and who simply can't function without engaging in some form of social media every hour of the day, or generating 'friends' or followers, sad bastards), simply don't seem to get!:doh:

Marco.

part of me sees it that way and the other part thinks that whatever people choose to spend their time doing is up to them. They're enjoying themselves, nothings required from me, what's the problem?

Besides posting stuff on here isn't massively different. In fact I'm struggling to think of any difference at all

Marco

11-03-2021, 19:26

part of me sees it that way and the other part thinks that whatever people choose to spend their time doing is up to them. They're enjoying themselves, nothings required from me, what's the problem?

Besides posting stuff on here isn't massively different. In fact I'm struggling to think of any difference at all

Sure, whatever floats your boat, but the desire to be 'liked' or your lifestyle justified or applauded in some way is what it makes it different from here, as no-one I know of here is so shallow or insecure. This whole new culture of wanting to create 'likes' or becoming 'friends' with some no-mark Internet entity, I just find not only bizarre, but deeply unhealthy and abnormal.

It's that and the penchant for mindless attention-seeking/approval by one's 'peers', which I find deeply sad, as is the fact that so many people now can't function without getting their social media 'hit', and so are glued to their phones 24/7..

Don't know about you, but much as I love this place, I don't really miss it when I'm on holiday, doing far more interesting things in the REAL world, nor do I feel compelled to receive reminder bleeps about every new post or reply I get!;)

For me, it's about using social media, or forums such as this, in a measured and logical way, as being addicted isn't healthy. Thankfully though I've never had an addictive personality, so I can enjoy many things (pastimes and hobbies), but not become addicted to, or reliant on them:)

Plus, I'm not really a creature of habit. I like being impulsive.

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

11-03-2021, 19:30

My nonsense is very time-consuming it is true.

And worth every minute :) Nowhere near as bad as Marco's - his posts are so long I haven't even had time to read them before he's back on, pestering for a reply :D like a clingy toddler demanding constant attention ;) Marco! The grown ups are talking, I'll change your nappy in a minute!

Marco

11-03-2021, 19:54

Hahahaha...:D

I just hate 'loose ends', and also have a bad habit of expecting the same standards from others in certain things, as I practice myself!:ner::D

Such as when someone asks me a question, always doing my best to reply, even if I think it's 'unnecessary', or if I don't wish to reply, for whatever reason, not just rudely ignoring their question - or reading someone's 'long posts' and not even having the courtesy to acknowledge them, even if on the surface a response is considered as unnecessary:ner::ner:;)

For me, all of that [and not just on here or any other forum] is the result of the dumbing down of how people communicate with each other in the modern world, and where everyone's 'too busy' to practice proper manners or etiquette, and so standards in that respect have fallen drastically.

The latter have sadly become a disposable commodity, just like everything else these days....

Marco.

Macca

11-03-2021, 20:14

Sure, whatever floats your boat, but the desire to be 'liked' or your lifestyle justified or applauded in some way is what it makes it different from here, as no-one I know of here behaves like that, certainly for those reasons. This whole new culture of wanting to create 'likes' or becoming 'friends' with some no-mark Internet entity, I just find not only bizarre, but deeply unhealthy and abnormal.

It's that and the penchant for mindless attention-seeking/approval by one's 'peers', which I find deeply sad, as is the fact that so many people now can't function without getting their social media 'hit', and so are glued to their phones 24/7..

Don't know about you, but much as I love this place, I don't really miss it when I'm on holiday, doing far more interesting things in the REAL world, nor do I feel compelled to receive reminder bleeps about every new post or reply I get!;)

For me, it's about using social media, or forums such as this, in a measured and logical way, as being addicted isn't healthy. Thankfully though I've never had an addictive personality, so I can enjoy many things (pastimes and hobbies), but not become addicted to, or reliant on them:)

Marco.

As far as I'm concerned it's all somebody else's problem.

I don't know how to get on the internet from abroad so I couldn't log in here when on holiday anyway. Plus it's probably cost a bomb. And I don't see any point in going on holiday just to do stuff I can do perfectly well at home. I don't even read, except on the plane.

Why shell out a thousand quid and suffer 9 hours on a plane to go somewhere completely new and different and then spend half the time I'm there in someone else's fictional world? That's never made any sense to me. I'd rather be interacting with the environment, and, to a lesser extent, the indigenous personnel.

Pigmy Pony

11-03-2021, 20:19

Such as when someone asks me a question, always doing my best to reply, even if I think it's 'unnecessary', or if I don't wish to reply, for whatever reason, just rudely ignoring their question - or reading someone's 'long posts' and not even having the courtesy to acknowledge them, even if on the surface a response is not considered necessary:ner::ner:;)

Marco.

Just curious - when composing that sentence, did you at any point draw breath? :ner:

You may not know this, but I have a rather short attention span, and am also very very lazy. So if a line is too convoluted for my brain cell to cope with I often just move on to the next line. This to some may look like skim reading but it isn't really :)

Marco

11-03-2021, 20:30

As far as I'm concerned it's all somebody else's problem.

I don't know how to get on the internet from abroad so I couldn't log in here when on holiday anyway. Plus it's probably cost a bomb. And I don't see any point in going on holiday just to do stuff I can do perfectly well at home. I don't even read, except on the plane.

Why shell out a thousand quid and suffer 9 hours on a plane to go somewhere completely new and different and then spend half the time I'm there in someone else's fictional world? That's never made any sense to me. I'd rather be interacting with the environment, and, to a lesser extent, the indigenous personnel.

We're on the same page bro, but look at all the idiots who can't enjoy themselves on holiday abroad without taking their phones, laptops, iPads, Kindles, Smart watches, and goodness knows what other technological paraphernalia with them on a plane, in order to 'stay connected' or entertain themselves, then moan like fuck when their chosen hotel has crap wi-fi, rendering said 'toys' as next to useless, as if it's the end of the bloody world!!:doh:

When I go on holiday abroad, unless it's by car, I take the *absolute minimum* with me (just genuine essentials, such as clothes and toiletries, etc) - 'travel light' is the order of the day, not become laden full of shite that's so easy to get lost or stolen:doh: Plus, as you say, to enjoy my new environment and interact with the locals in the REAL world!:)

For me, holidays are about 'switching off'/RELAXING, having a stress-free fun time, and being DISCONNECTED from the pressures of your working life - not simply transporting those pressures to a new environment and paying for the so-called 'privilege'...:rolleyes:

That's just lunacy, and the total opposite of what a holiday should be about!:mental:

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

11-03-2021, 20:44

Sure, whatever floats your boat, but the desire to be 'liked' or your lifestyle justified or applauded in some way is what it makes it different from here, as no-one I know of here behaves like that, certainly for those reasons. This whole new culture of wanting to create 'likes' or becoming 'friends' with some no-mark Internet entity, I just find not only bizarre, but deeply unhealthy and abnormal.

It's that and the penchant for mindless attention-seeking/approval by one's 'peers', which I find deeply sad, as is the fact that so many people now can't function without getting their social media 'hit', and so are glued to their phones 24/7..

Don't know about you, but much as I love this place, I don't really miss it when I'm on holiday, doing far more interesting things in the REAL world, nor do I feel compelled to receive reminder bleeps about every new post or reply I get!;)

For me, it's about using social media, or forums such as this, in a measured and logical way, as being addicted isn't healthy. Thankfully though I've never had an addictive personality, so I can enjoy many things (pastimes and hobbies), but not become addicted to, or reliant on them:)

Marco.

Same here, social media has no part in my life when I'm on holiday either. Not even AoS - if I'm on holiday for a week there'll be no posts from me for at least a week. That way we all get a break. You're welcome :)

Marco

11-03-2021, 20:55

Just curious - when composing that sentence, did you at any point draw breath? :ner:

Ha - I'm very fast at typing (verging on secretarial speed), that is on a proper keyboard, as I've been using some form of QWERTY keyboard [typewriter or computer] regularly for years, so said sentence took seconds!

You may not know this, but I have a rather short attention span, and am also very very lazy. So if a line is too convoluted for my brain cell to cope with I often just move on to the next line. This to some may look like skim reading but it isn't really :)

Lol, well the questions that need asked, IMHO, are *why* do you have a rather short attention span (although I do recognise it as a growing issue these days, the catalyst for which is I'm not quite sure), and why not do something to improve it?

Ditto, with being "very very lazy"...

"Convoluted" is also entirely subjective. Generally, the posts I find most interesting to read are where the author has put some 'meat on the bone' (provided it's a subject I'm interested in), and is able to express themselves eloquently, so if that subsequently makes their contributions "convoluted", then so be it.

I'd far rather than than glib, poorly constructed one-line scribbles, devoid of any worthwhile content. In that respect, we should always be striving to up our game.

Trouble is, as I've already touched upon, modern technology (especially texting) has dumbed down how we communicate as humans, and that has impacted adversely on both our ability to use the English language, and our attention spans, as unfortunately we've become so accustomed to putting in the minimum of effort to get our point across...:doh:

Plus, everyone's running around like headless chickens these days, and so have no time to relax or do things properly - everything is rush, rush, rush!

<End of convoluted post>

:D;)

Marco.

Marco

11-03-2021, 20:59

Same here, social media has no part in my life when I'm on holiday either. Not even AoS - if I'm on holiday for a week there'll be no posts from me for at least a week. That way we all get a break. You're welcome :)

Lol, no worries, but I certainly wasn't thinking of you when I wrote that post, or even anyone else here, but rather 'Joe public'.

Marco.

Marco

12-03-2021, 18:45

The Black Adder

12-03-2021, 18:49

lol... Going for a nice blue rinse are we?

Marco

12-03-2021, 19:12

Ha - you guessed it, in readiness for my new Easter frock!:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

13-03-2021, 20:30

WAY HEY - hairdressing salons and barbers will be reopened from Monday, so I can get a bloody haircut at LONG last!!!!!:yay::yay::yay::champagne::mex:

:carrot::carrot:

It's been doing my fucking head in, especially every time I wash it!! So appointment for a good scalping duly booked for Monday morning - can't wait... It'll help me look semi-human again!:D

Marco.

You'll miss it when it's gone. No more making it into a pigtail and flossing your arse with it :( Sorry my reply couldn't be more convoluted...

Oh, and it may be just me, but I don't consider excessively long sentences to signal eloquence. I find that it's up there with over-long paragraphs that look like a big slab of words. In my book the opposite of wordy/convoluted is CONSISE, not "dumbed down" :ner:

But you'll be heartened to know that I make an exception with your posts, and try really hard :kiss: because you're worth it

Macca

13-03-2021, 21:40

Thought I might have got my invitation to be vaccinated today but it turned out to be the Council Tax bill.

Marco

13-03-2021, 21:47

You'll miss it when it's gone. No more making it into a pigtail and flossing your arse with it :( Sorry my reply couldn't be more convoluted...

Ha - keep trying, you'll get the hang of it eventually!:D

Oh, and it may be just me, but I don't consider excessively long sentences to signal eloquence. I find that it's up there with over-long paragraphs that look like a big slab of words. In my book the opposite of wordy/convoluted is CONSISE, not "dumbed down" :ner:

Lol - when I mentioned eloquence, I wasn't necessarily referring to anything I'd written. I don't disagree with your points, but it's entirely subjective. What constitutes as an "overly long sentence" or an "over-long paragraph"?

If you're able to punctuate and spell correctly, then if well written, long sentences or paragraphs are not only possible, but can enhance the reading experience, simply by providing more detail.

Btw, did you mean concise?;)

Well, I guess one man's "concise" is another man's exercise in laziness! It's all relative. Personally, I prefer people who have plenty to say for themselves, and aren't afraid to say it, as opposed to the opposite.

In any case, you haven't said why you have such a short attention span. What's responsible for that, then - too many daft genes?:D;)

Marco.

Marco

13-03-2021, 21:55

Thought I might have got my invitation to be vaccinated today but it turned out to be the Council Tax bill.

You can have mine if you want?:D

Marco.

Macca

14-03-2021, 07:42

You can have mine if you want?:D

Marco.

Wouldn't I have to pretend to be you? Might work, but if they start questioning me about cooking or setting up Mana the subterfuge won't last.

Pigmy Pony

14-03-2021, 09:04

concise[/B]?;)

Marco.

Yes that's what I meant. And congratulations on wording your question so concisely - you're learning! :D

In answer to your other question - I don't really have a short attention span, I was just being polite. What I really meant is I sometimes lose interest if the author takes too long to get their point across. But as you say, it's all subjective :)

Now then. what else can I talk about? Well, this morning the weather (so far) has been uncharacteristically true to that which we were forecasted via the famously unreliable BBC Weather service, which I routinely check and then ignore for the aforementioned reason, something I will continue to do as long as I have a hole in my arse, although as I type this it occurs to me that you may have no interest in this particular subject as you would simply stay in and post about cooking or something, anything that is not reliant on the Great British weather, such as it is.

I hope you found that last paragraph interesting, I bored myself shitless typing it. Especially as my laptop logged me out halfway through it and had to be re-typed :steam:

hifi_dave

14-03-2021, 13:09

I avidly watch the BBC weather forecasts on the TV, desperate to see some nice weather on the way. The local BBC weather is usually different to the national BBC weather. Similar situation with on-line BBC local weather and the Met Office forecasts where they are often completely different forecasts and both manage to get it wrong.

Barry

14-03-2021, 20:17

You can have mine if you want?:D

Marco.

Which one: council tax bill or invitation to have a Covid jab?

Marco

14-03-2021, 21:00

Both!:D

Marco.

system7

15-03-2021, 03:59

Thought I might have got my invitation to be vaccinated today but it turned out to be the Council Tax bill.

I got a similar surprise the other day. A letter from the NHS.

Told me that they have identified me as extremely vulnerable. And must "Shield".

Thing is, most of my neighbours, who didn't get letters, are much older and in worse shape than me. :scratch:

My friends assure me the Government is just making it up as they go along. :lol:

hifi_dave

15-03-2021, 10:02

At least you are getting vaccinated. Meanwhile, half of Europe, inc France, Germany and Italy are going into hard lockdown.

struth

15-03-2021, 11:20

At least you are getting vaccinated. Meanwhile, half of Europe, inc France, Germany and Italy are going into hard lockdown.

yes well they have farted about for so long re vaccines its not surprising. typical of huge unelected overlords.. eu is more interested in putting fingers up to britain than doing their jobs.

ive no fears on the oxford jab. yes it might do me harm but i would just be extremely unlucky. cv19 is a lot bigger threat

Macca

15-03-2021, 11:39

It's going to be dragging on for years over there the way they are going. I think it will be the end of the 'EU Project' at least for a generation so at least some good will come of it.

walpurgis

15-03-2021, 12:14

It's going to be dragging on for years over there the way they are going. I think it will be the end of the 'EU Project' at least for a generation so at least some good will come of it.

I saw something yesterday about the Netherlands thinking about 'Nexit'. There seems to be dissatisfaction with the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1408932/eu-news-netherlands-uk-nexit-brexit-mark-rutte-dutch-elecetions-spt

struth

15-03-2021, 12:36

I saw something yesterday about the Netherlands thinking about 'Nexit'. There seems to be dissatisfaction with the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1408932/eu-news-netherlands-uk-nexit-brexit-mark-rutte-dutch-elecetions-spt

i see merkel is struggling at polls as well. think sturgeon might too. at times of passing crisis, the sitting govt often finds life tough

guy

15-03-2021, 15:25

hifi_dave

15-03-2021, 15:46

yes well they have farted about for so long re vaccines its not surprising. typical of huge unelected overlords.. eu is more interested in putting fingers up to britain than doing their jobs.

ive no fears on the oxford jab. yes it might do me harm but i would just be extremely unlucky. cv19 is a lot bigger threat
Agreed. The EU is more interested in giving us grief in any way possible. Even now they are misleading their members about supposed 'problems' with the Oxford vaccine.
You can lead a horse to water etc. Meantime the majority of the EU is going into lockdown and few of their people are getting vaccinated. Anyone fancy a holiday in Europe ?

I know 12 people who have had the Oxford vaccination and the only side effect has been a slightly sore arm where the needle went in. On the other hand/arm, one of our friends who was dismissive of the Oxford version had the Pfizer and was unwell for two days.

hifi_dave

15-03-2021, 15:47

It's going to be dragging on for years over there the way they are going. I think it will be the end of the 'EU Project' at least for a generation so at least some good will come of it.
Exactly..:thumbsup:

hifi_dave

16-03-2021, 17:26

Italy and France have now admitted that the blood clot lie is politically motivated to punish both the UK and Astra Zeneca plus force AZ to supply more vaccine to the EU instead of fulfilling their obligations to countries which ordered adequate supplies in time.

struth

16-03-2021, 17:39

its their loss.. if they want to kill their countrymen then fine. its up to the people to vote them out.. astra z have been selling it at cost and not profiting from it unlike the rest.. eu are corrupt to core

walpurgis

16-03-2021, 18:15

Looks like I'll be getting the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, I'm booked in for Thursday morning. Hope they give me a sweetie for being a good boy and not crying! :D

Marco

16-03-2021, 18:21

And there's a special offer on at the moment too mate [just for this Thursday], with the resident Matron giving soapy wanks afterwards in the recovery room. Woo-hoo!!

Marco,

walpurgis

16-03-2021, 18:44

Dunno about Matron, but there was a very fit looking young medical assistant there the other day, she'd do. :)

Macca

16-03-2021, 18:57

Is it impossible for anyone over the age of 45 to read the word 'Matron' and not immediately think of Hattie Jacques?

I suspect it is.

struth

16-03-2021, 19:20

Or to think of a daffodil

Filterlab

16-03-2021, 19:42

Is it impossible for anyone over the age of 45 to read the word 'Matron' and not immediately think of Hattie Jacques?

I suspect it is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1142966558320463875/tMR8KKUH.jpg

walpurgis

16-03-2021, 19:53

Or to think of a daffodil

You've got to be nearer 65 to think of that one :).

struth

16-03-2021, 20:02

You've got to be nearer 65 to think of that one :).Oddly hatty was a bit of a nimph and brought her boyfriend in to live with her and her husband. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210316/7d847841b6384dff8edffcd6e5739534.jpg

Filterlab

16-03-2021, 20:20

I bet she did!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/19/a1/a919a1524171140d5677e207f465cc28.jpg

Marco

16-03-2021, 22:18

Or to think of a daffodil

Who/what be that?:hmm:

Horniest nurse for me [and a wankfest for a young guy at the time] was the one in The Singing Detective!:D

They should bring back that series, it was epic:)

<Chug chug>... <Squirt>...

Marco.

Barry

16-03-2021, 22:25

Joanne Whalley (as she was then):

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-PJTBWJ0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0

Unfortunately time hasn't been kind to her.

Marco

16-03-2021, 22:59

Never heard of her. Did she play the part of a matron then or something? And what's the connection with a daffodil? :scratch:

Marco.

Barry

16-03-2021, 23:02

Horniest nurse for me [and a wankfest for a young guy at the time] was the one in The Singing Detective!

As played by Joanne Whalley! Blimey Marco has your memory faded with age?

Marco

16-03-2021, 23:07

Lol, soz, I'd only know her from her character in the TV programme, don't ask me her real name!;)

Yes I can see the resemblance...

I thought you were referring to who the 'daffodil' was Grant mentioned... Who was that, then? You should be old enough to remember!:ner::D

Marco.

Barry

16-03-2021, 23:13

That was Hattie Jacques:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Nurse

The 'daffodil' reference is explained in the final paragraph of the above.

Marco

16-03-2021, 23:16

Ah right, cheers! I was never a big 'Carry On' fan, not really my type of humour:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 07:09

Is it impossible for anyone over the age of 45 to read the word 'Matron' and not immediately think of Hattie Jacques?

I suspect it is.

And it has to be Kenneth Williams' voice :)

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 07:10

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1142966558320463875/tMR8KKUH.jpg

Dammit, I really should read threads all the way through before posting!

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 07:16

Joanne Whalley (as she was then):

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-PJTBWJ0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0

Unfortunately time hasn't been kind to her.

I would have been kind to her, apart from the occasional smacked bum for being naughty.

struth

17-03-2021, 07:27

Yeah joanne was lovely. She's younger than me but looks older now. A slightly mangled look.
She was gorgeous in Scandal

Barry

17-03-2021, 09:05

Yeah joanne was lovely. She's younger than me but looks older now. A slightly mangled look.
She was gorgeous in Scandal

That is being diplomatic. Mind you, her once husband (Val Kilmer) has really let himself age badly.

Bksabath

17-03-2021, 09:36

Had my first Jab of the Astra Zeneca Yesterday

I am filling a bit under the weather but it may be due to same work I did yesterday

No lumps or sore arm where I had the Jab

Hot bath and back to bed if I manage to get away from my FiFi

29324

Marco

17-03-2021, 09:54

Dammit, I really should read threads all the way through before posting!

Yes, that's because of your extreme laziness!!:ner::D

;)

Marco.

struth

17-03-2021, 10:00

Marco

17-03-2021, 10:02

I would have been kind to her, apart from the occasional smacked bum for being naughty.

Being only 21 at the time, The Singing Detective (and *those* scenes, lol) had a profound effect on me, as I always had a bit of a 'thing' for naughty nurses!!:lol:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ap30Im.jpg

'It's time for your bath now... Gosh, would you like me to help you with THAT?:eek::eyebrows:

Hummina, hummina....

Marco.

Bksabath

17-03-2021, 10:58

Bksabath

17-03-2021, 11:01

FiFi is in the picture like yes?

struth

17-03-2021, 11:05

Being only 21 at the time, The Singing Detective (and *those* scenes, lol) had a profound effect on me, as I always had a bit of a 'thing' for naughty nurses!!:lol:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ap30Im.jpg

'It's time for your bath now... Gosh, would you like me to help you with THAT?:eek::eyebrows:

Hummina, hummina....

Marco.

was an excellent series and great music too.

Marco

17-03-2021, 11:20

I know naughtier looking Nurses but then I can being Single

Let's see who is the first one to forward you last post to your Partner :lol:

Hey you may find out that she is in to uniforms after all those years :eyebrows:

Hi Sandro,

Nice seeing you posting again, hope you're well and staying safe:)

Anyway, I doubt she'd be too shocked, lol..

Eh Granty?;)

No comment on the uniform thing!:D

Marco.

struth

17-03-2021, 11:29

lol, women often expect it .. many of course loath the idea tho. my dear wife oft dressed like santa:eyebrows:

marco, do you like uniforms?:)

Marco

17-03-2021, 11:59

HAHAHAHA...

Let me put it this way: do you think Del would have any issue wearing one if I asked her to? She is the shy type right enough.. :lol::eyebrows:

Marco.

struth

17-03-2021, 12:13

HAHAHAHA...

Let me put it this way: do you think Del would have any issue wearing one if I asked her to? She is the shy type right enough.. :lol::eyebrows:

Marco.

del, would if i asked her:ner: so guessing yes:eyebrows:

Marco

17-03-2021, 12:16

Aye, she'd do anything for you 'cos you're a sook!:ner::D

Marco.

Macca

17-03-2021, 12:41

struth

17-03-2021, 12:44

Aye, she'd do anything for you 'cos you're a sook!:ner::D

Marco.

ah yes, im good at that with the pretty ladies:eyebrows:

Bksabath

17-03-2021, 16:25

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 18:45

Yes, that's because of your extreme laziness!!:ner::D

;)

Marco.

No, it's because... oh never mind, I can't be arsed :)

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 18:49

Being only 21 at the time, The Singing Detective (and *those* scenes, lol) had a profound effect on me, as I always had a bit of a 'thing' for naughty nurses!!:lol:

Marco.

And you were too busy pulling yer pud to notice that her name was Joanne Whalley :ner:

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 19:01

am I the only one who thought 'The Singing Detective' was rubbish and that nurses uniforms (at least the real ones) make even the most attractive woman look dowdy and asexual (which I suspect they are deliberately designed to do)?

I sort of see where you're coming from, but a really attractive woman is going to look good in anything, including a nurse's uniform. A plain looking bird after sexing up her appearance will not do herself any favours by dressing like a nurse.

struth

17-03-2021, 19:03

And you were too busy pulling yer pud to notice that her name was Joanne Whalley :ner:Yes it was Joanne.

struth

17-03-2021, 19:04

I sort of see where you're coming from, but a really attractive woman is going to look good in anything, including a nurse's uniform. A plain looking bird after sexing up her appearance will not do herself any favours by dressing like a nurse.Well Hattie looked same in everything. As did Sid James and Barbara Windsor, who amazingly had a love affair.

Pigmy Pony

17-03-2021, 19:15

Well Hattie looked same in everything. As did Sid James and Barbara Windsor, who amazingly had a love affair.

Well my mate wouldn't have looked twice at Joanne Whalley, but had the hots for Hattie. Wouldn't do for us all to be the same, but his current crush is Brenda Blethyn (I think that's her name). I do worry about him.

struth

17-03-2021, 19:19

She was OK when younger but yes I would worry [emoji23]

Marco

17-03-2021, 20:51

thanks Marco I have been active in the forum on The Bug is back thread

Due to the title of this one I tend to post if I have same contribution to make still I have a read trough at times

I have been to Matas last week to stock up on pasta 25 Kg or such and olives apart from that not been to town at all

Cant wait to go to the Little Furnace but there may be a que as it was on main stream news papers as best pizza place in Liverpool ...

Bravo, Sandro. Sono molto contento che tutto è bene:cool:

We also want to go to Mattas, but are just waiting for the 'stay local' restrictions to end, so we can shoot into Liverpool, which is one of our favourite cities in the UK!

Little Furnace sounds good.

Sei già stato? La pizza è buona?:)

Marco.

Marco

17-03-2021, 20:52

No, it's because... oh never mind, I can't be arsed :)

:lolsign:

Marco.

Marco

17-03-2021, 20:58

And you were too busy pulling yer pud to notice that her name was Joanne Whalley :ner:

Probably, lol. But unless they're really famous, I tend not to pay much attention to actors (or actresses) names, especially with only having seen her in that particular series, so outside of that wouldn't have known her from Adam:)

Marco.

struth

18-03-2021, 00:23

Yeah hard to think it's same girl. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/9e633ba5df1ab3156e89873a9c6399af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/99b5e31c7c5bcc04eb208dbb9fcdae94.jpg

dave2010

18-03-2021, 05:29

Bravo, Sandro. Sono molto contento che tutto è bene:cool:

We also want to go to Mattas, but are just waiting for the 'stay local' restrictions to end, so we can shoot into Liverpool, which is one of our favourite cities in the UK!

Little Furnace sounds good.

Sei già stato? La pizza è buona?:)

Marco.Dove e Little Furnace? Smithdown Road forse?

dave2010

18-03-2021, 05:41

Yeah hard to think it's same girl. You could always buy a mouse mat - https://idposter.com/Joanne_Whalley/715224_Joanne_Whalley_mousepad.html

Bksabath

18-03-2021, 08:45

Sorry Dave
Little Furnace ? never heard of it!

Me was thinking only 3 old gits and such read this tread I hope It believes me the que to get in was already to long before “the current situation”
Joking obviously

I had decent pizza from the tip of Sicily to Dublin and one in Dublin was good
I had the best of Naples and an even better one in Bologna in 1985 yes it was that good that I still remember it.

Apart from the wood oven, unless is one of those monsters, it would not make the above list!
There are 2 things in pizza the dough and the topping’s Little Furnace being where it is (U.K) can’t compete on the toppings front, they do try very hard any way, the dough is certainly right at the top.

As said before Marco give me a call when you both are in town they still do take away.

Marco

18-03-2021, 09:32

Dove e Little Furnace? Smithdown Road forse?

Si, proprio qui: https://littlefurnace.co.uk/

Finora, non ho mai stato.

Marco.

Marco

18-03-2021, 09:40

As said before Marco give me a call when you both are in town they still do take away.

For sure, Sandro. From the pizzas shown on the website, they look great and properly authentic!

I'm *massively fussy/critical* about pizza, as I know how it should be done, and the difference between done RIGHT, and as sadly too often happens in the UK, the creation of an abomination, which simply isn't worthy of the name!!:doh:

Do they also do sit in?:)

Marco.

walpurgis

18-03-2021, 10:04

Right, that's the jab done about an hour ago. I had the Oxford/AstraZeneca one and the wife had the Pfizer example a couple of weeks ago. Sorted!

Marco

18-03-2021, 10:29

Good stuff, mate. Let us know how you feel afterwards and for the ensuing few days.

Marco.

walpurgis

18-03-2021, 10:38

Good stuff, mate. Let us know how you feel afterwards and for the ensuing few days.

Marco.

Will do Marco.

My daughter and her partner also had the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab recently, as they are in vulnerable groups. Both experienced feeling unwell for a day or two subsequently. I'm not worried, having had the virus proper, any vaccination after effects can't be as bad as that.

mad-moon

18-03-2021, 12:04

Yeah hard to think it's same girl. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/9e633ba5df1ab3156e89873a9c6399af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210318/99b5e31c7c5bcc04eb208dbb9fcdae94.jpg

Yeah....it's no good, this getting old shit, bless her....beautiful in her day. She still looks great though, she'll be 60 in August, born the same year as me...Can't believe I'll be 60 in November...the years are going far to quickly...

Bksabath

18-03-2021, 12:43

Do they also do sit in?:)

Marco.
Yes they do I have a few pictures on the phone of the few times (quite a few actualy) when I have been they would not fit here files to big I tried

The place is pretty small but that ads in spades to the caracter of it whit probably more space taken over by the Oven and "assembly" line than the customers tables which seem to be designed for the local customer base mostly skinny students
I am glad you posted that link as you can see my moot criticism about the toppings fact is fresh porcini like do not travel well

If one more thing can be said to close this is "when you go there and try one you will plan which one to get next time"

Marco

18-03-2021, 13:58

She still looks great though, she'll be 60 in August, born the same year as me...

Really? I thought you were considerably more ancient!:D Lol...;)

She'd look *so* much better with a more flattering hairstyle (and hair which looked like it had been brushed this century).

That's what's mainly holding her back, and if she covered up her neck more. The 'scraggy chicken sag' thing that goes on with older ladies' necks unfortunately is very aging, and easily sorted by wearing a nice scarf or tops/dresses with a higher neckline.

Marco.

Marco

18-03-2021, 14:08

Yes they do I have a few pictures on the phone of the few times (quite a few actualy) when I have been they would not fit here files to big I tried

The place is pretty small but that ads in spades to the caracter of it whit probably more space taken over by the Oven and "assembly" line than the customers tables which seem to be designed for the local customer base mostly skinny students
I am glad you posted that link as you can see my moot criticism about the toppings fact is fresh porcini like do not travel well

If one more thing can be said to close this is "when you go there and try one you will plan which one to get next time"

No worries, Sandro. Totally agree with your point on fresh porcini. No point in using them unless you're in the country of origin. As a general rule though (not talking just about porcini) I don't like mushrooms, or other similarly 'wet' toppings, on pizzas [and DON'T get me started on fucking pineapple!!:doh:], as they just make the base all soggy and floppy!

And a floppy is never any fun [as my wife often says]:D

Marco.

hifi_dave

18-03-2021, 17:04

struth

18-03-2021, 17:38

The suspension of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine rollout across much of Europe will likely be lifted soon.
Key points:

Four of the EU's largest nations suspended the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine after reports of illnesses among some recipients
The pause on the vaccine has coincided with a rise in coronavirus infections in Italy, France and Germany
Health experts fear the damage done to public confidence will lead to unnecessary deaths from COVID-19

But some experts believe the damage to public confidence will be long-lasting and result in unnecessary deaths.

Fears about blood clots haven't yet been backed up by evidence, but doctors say they are likely to fuel further public concern about the vaccine at a time when Europe can ill afford it.

Countries like Italy, France and Germany are all experiencing dangerous spikes in COVID-19 cases, yet they have all paused their rollouts of the AstraZeneca product.

In Australia, the federal government says the rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine will continue, despite the concerns in Europe.

The European Medicines Agency looks likely to endorse the safety of the vaccine on Thursday (European time).

But Anthony Harnden, deputy chair of the UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said the damage was done.

"You cannot stop and start vaccination programs without losing some public confidence," he told the ABC.

"There will be many, many people in Europe, [who] feel now that the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is second best ... which is patently untrue."
Catch up on the main COVID-19 news from March 18 with our coronavirus blog.

Professor Harnden, who is also an expert in primary care at the University of Oxford, which helped develop the vaccine, said the decision would compound mistrust in the vaccine, which some European countries previously withheld from their older populations, citing a lack of data.

"I have no doubt that Europeans have died because of some of these decisions," he said.

"If you don't get a vaccine and you're vulnerable and you're exposed to it [coronavirus], you may die as a result."
Vaccine suspension a 'disaster'
An elderly man and woman hold hands while lying in hospital beds
The AstraZeneca ban comes as Italy enters another lockdown amid a recent surge of coronavirus across the nation.(

LaPresse via AP: Cecilia Fabiano)

Cases have risen sharply in Italy, which has entered another lockdown.

On Tuesday, Italy recorded 20,396 new cases and 502 deaths.

Stefano Nava, chief of respiratory and critical care at Bologna's Sant' Orsola hospital — Italy's biggest — said the last four weeks had been "out of control".

He said the third wave had presented new challenges, which he partly blamed on the UK variant.

"The patients are younger and sometimes sicker," Professor Nava told the ABC.

Pigmy Pony

18-03-2021, 18:39

struth

18-03-2021, 18:44

They should give em back to us before they go off. We'll make use of them :) Shit time to be European. I'm glad I'm British (you don't hear that very often these days). All the folk who have been routinely badmouthing the UK govt's Covid decisions, and wringing their hands over our leaving Europe, are curiously quiet - credit where credit's due I say.

only 6 months shelf life in vial apparently

Gazjam

18-03-2021, 18:59

Letter in today to get first dose on the 24th...

Surprised actually, no underlying health issues and I'm not much north of 50.
Ah well. :)

struth

18-03-2021, 19:21

I'm still waiting.. Hopeless gits

Macca

18-03-2021, 19:34

Anyone over fifty is being invited to book theirs now as I understand it.

Marco

18-03-2021, 19:42

Aye, maybe in England;)

Marco.

Macca

18-03-2021, 19:56

No I don't think it is just England.

Obviously not on the Continent where they seem to be about as organised as a Frenchman's knapsack.

Marco

18-03-2021, 20:33

https://gov.wales/getting-your-covid-19-vaccine

Noting:

When it is your turn to receive the vaccine, you will be contacted directly by the NHS. You may be contacted by either telephone or letter.

Therefore, they contact you; YOU don't contact them, so we in Wales aren't being 'invited to book' anything...;)

Marco.

Macca

18-03-2021, 21:19

https://gov.wales/getting-your-covid-19-vaccine

Noting:

Therefore, they contact you; YOU don't contact them, so we in Wales aren't being 'invited to book' anything...;)

Marco.

Well I was going by this

Can the over 50's get the vaccine now?
Anyone over the age of 50 can now sign up for their vaccine appointments via the NHS website, or alternatively people can call 119 to book their vaccine.

The NHS website's booking portal for Covid vaccine appointments can be found here.

More than two million texts and letters will be sent out to invite people for their Covid vaccines over the coming days, the Health Secretary said.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1411292/can-over-50s-get-vaccine-now-how-to-book-coronavirus-vaccine-NHS-evg

Which doesn't mention anything about it just being England. There isn't a separate NHS for Wales like they have in Scotland. Not as far as I know anyway.

Gazjam

18-03-2021, 21:28

Spot on Martin, that's exactly how it is.

Marco

18-03-2021, 21:44

Well I was going by this

Can the over 50's get the vaccine now?
Anyone over the age of 50 can now sign up for their vaccine appointments via the NHS website, or alternatively people can call 119 to book their vaccine.

The NHS website's booking portal for Covid vaccine appointments can be found here.

More than two million texts and letters will be sent out to invite people for their Covid vaccines over the coming days, the Health Secretary said.

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1411292/can-over-50s-get-vaccine-now-how-to-book-coronavirus-vaccine-NHS-evg

Which doesn't mention anything about it just being England. There isn't a separate NHS for Wales like they have in Scotland. Not as far as I know anyway.

That's fine, but it doesn't contradict what I said:)

I guess it depends on how desperate you are to get it, so either wait for an invite or phone to book!;)

Marco.

Bksabath

18-03-2021, 21:48

Surprise, surprise, the EU health agency has stated that the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine is safe and effective.

Whilst the EU politicians continue to threaten us and play dangerous games with their citizens lives, millions of doses lie unwanted in EU fridges.

I have been on the phone whit Mum and Dad a few times in the past days as I told them that I was getting the jab same concerns on their part about sides effect came up

I got a call from mum yesterday and knowing it was her calling I put on a squeaky voice as if my balls (can we say balls on this forum?) dropped off
I kept that up for a while but had to give up 1 could not stop laughing 2 she was going to cry
I am not going to post the translation of my mum comments when I told her that I was joking
Funny enough my brother turned up whit her shopping as she is not allowed to go out
Normally he lives the stuff in the elevator but she managed to call him up
So, my brother is on the phone and my man vegetable (better?) drop off again keep it up again till he started getting really upset
Dropped the acct once more and me and mum (I can picture this) are roiling on the floor laughing
Any way the Vaccine thing came up and the conversation take a more serious tone
What came up
1 Britain is out of Europe so everting we do can’t be better than the rest
2 they take their time placing orders for the vaccine
So instead, then loosing face they tell peoples loads of bull
Policy in Italy is to use the vaccine for younger peoples so that they go back to work and pay taxes
They do not give a fluff about people dying of it, why should they?
they make money out of inheritance tax and save loads of it by not having to pay pensions and such
All they care about is keeping their arses (sorry can I say arses here?) on their seat’s and stash the graft on a swiss bank
The European union is not there for the people, all they care about is keeping the German banks that control big part of the founding afloat
But you all know this …
What scared me was the fact that my Brother and I agreed on politic matters
If not the first time we did I can’t remember when
What is going to happen when a few more people like him start waking up?

Thing is! same story down here
Same dude off the MOD was already winging that our armoured tanks and such are out of date day before yesterday
What you need a tank for UN should take care of that kind of poo (Can I say poo or shit in this forum?) and nurses get a 1% pay rise
Let me know if prime minister or such get their pay frozen or if they move the goal post when that time came

PS I reporting this post myself to the moderators as it may upset a few ostriches

Filterlab

18-03-2021, 22:11

Ostriches?

https://i.ibb.co/X4Jtjbs/C81-C78-FF-4-F86-4661-A5-A0-F485940-C132-E.jpg (https://ibb.co/n0kj6bc)

guy

18-03-2021, 22:14

Woody Allen:

"two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know; and such small portions."

Just substitute German and French politician for the women and vaccine for the food - works really well :)

walpurgis

19-03-2021, 19:14

I see Boris has just had his Oxford/AstraZeneca first jab, I wonder if he'll take a day off tomorrow? I've been feeling slightly off colour since I had mine yesterday morning , nothing much, just a bit 'yuk' with slight chills.

Pigmy Pony

19-03-2021, 19:15

Anita was like that after hers.

struth

19-03-2021, 19:23

I'm STILL waiting.. Tbh it's a bloody disgrace.

Pigmy Pony

19-03-2021, 19:28

I'm STILL waiting.. Tbh it's a bloody disgrace.

It is a disgrace, this might sound stupid, but why different in Scotland? It's all NHS isn't it?

walpurgis

19-03-2021, 19:29

Anita was like that after hers.

Feeling iffy is a good thing I guess, it shows the vaccine has promoted a response and will probably be effective. I'd be more concerned if there was nothing.

Macca

19-03-2021, 19:31

It is a disgrace, this might sound stupid, but why different in Scotland? It's all NHS isn't it?

Billed as 'NHS Scotland' these days. No idea what that actually translates to in reality though. They probably don't either.

Pigmy Pony

19-03-2021, 19:32

Good point, hadn't looked at it like that :)

guy

19-03-2021, 20:21

Billed as 'NHS Scotland' these days. No idea what that actually translates to in reality though. They probably don't either.

opportunity for a whole new bunch of highly paid administrators

Macca

19-03-2021, 22:30

opportunity for a whole new bunch of highly paid administrators

Yes and a fortune spent on the re-branding. Signs, stationary, livery for the vehicles...you wonder where they find the cash for it when all you hear is about how under-funded it is.

Bksabath

20-03-2021, 02:35

Yes and a fortune spent on the re-branding. Signs, stationary, livery for the vehicles...you wonder where they find the cash for it when all you hear is about how under-funded it is.
Endless opportunities for graft
Why spend £ 4M sending out a letter telling you to sing happy birthday when all this kicked in?
In the mean time I pay for the free prescriptions Scots and Welsh get

Filterlab

20-03-2021, 07:54

struth

20-03-2021, 08:27

too much beurcratic staff..ie, too many chiefs, and not enough indians, plus far too much money laid aside for coving lawsuits, causes much of the underfunding

guy

20-03-2021, 09:58

Yes and a fortune spent on the re-branding. Signs, stationary, livery for the vehicles...you wonder where they find the cash for it when all you hear is about how under-funded it is.

You have reminded me of when I worked for ICI - We were invited to a meeting to be shown he result of a "rebranding exercise".
the old ICI roundel with wavy lines at the bottom had been updated by a prestigious advertising agency/image advisor.
The wave had been changed from (I seem to remember) three peaks and troughs to two, more streamlined and dynamic:lol: at a cost of several hundred thousand. My, how we laughed and cheered :steam:

"Relocation exercise" (redundancies) followed soon after at plastics division.

Macca

20-03-2021, 10:40

You have reminded me of when I worked for ICI - We were invited to a meeting to be shown he result of a "rebranding exercise".
the old ICI roundel with wavy lines at the bottom had been updated by a prestigious advertising agency/image advisor.
The wave had been changed from (I seem to remember) three peaks and troughs to two, more streamlined and dynamic:lol: at a cost of several hundred thousand. My, how we laughed and cheered :steam:

"Relocation exercise" (redundancies) followed soon after at plastics division.

Yes I've got similar stories from having worked at big multinationals. A fortune spent on pointless tat but they won't employ people to answer the 'phone to customers because that costs too much.

The difference is that's the shareholders money they are squandering, not the taxpayers. You can sell your shares if you don't like the way the company is run but you can't opt out of paying tax if you think your tax money is being squandered.

struth

20-03-2021, 12:04

UK have vaccinated half the adults in country.. quite a landmark..

hifi_dave

20-03-2021, 17:01

Brilliant. Well done to all and thanks.

struth

20-03-2021, 17:32

struth

20-03-2021, 19:14

https://www.ft.com/content/53629923-47c9-4047-8022-031010d39e18

More on the eu cock up. Its sad that they politicise everything.

InThe Sticks

21-03-2021, 07:10

It is a disgrace, this might sound stupid, but why different in Scotland? It's all NHS isn't it?

The difference is who is ultimately in charge, and unfortunately in Scotlands case, it's the utterly corrupt and beyond useless SNP.
If it wasn't due to the British army partnering with the Scots Dragoons, the vaccine rollout would be a lot lot worse than it is now.

struth

21-03-2021, 07:39

I was under impression the Royal Scots dragoons was part of British Army? [emoji41]

Marco

21-03-2021, 07:48

The difference is who is ultimately in charge, and unfortunately in Scotlands case, it's the utterly corrupt and beyond useless SNP.

They're ALL utterly corrupt and beyond useless (self-serving wankers), especially the shower we have in power now (it even rhymes, eh)?:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony

21-03-2021, 08:02

They're ALL utterly corrupt and beyond useless (self-serving wankers), especially the shower we have in power now (it even rhymes, eh)?:D

Marco.

But at least our utterly corrupt and beyond useless self serving wankers got their fingers out of their arses and got on with the job of getting us vaccinated. Which is what we are talking about. Good thing we aren't in EU any more. As showers go, they are torrential.

Macca

21-03-2021, 08:53

You have to wonder about this woman. She is a nasty piece of work.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pfizer-eu-covid-vaccine-threats-uk-b925289.html

they have loads of astra stuff sitting unused due to their bloody minded stupidity

Interesting that they would pick her as President given Brexit and the general dissatisfaction with the EU across Europe. She's very much a hardliner when it comes to the 'EU project':

In a 2011 interview with Der Spiegel, von der Leyen expressed her preference for "a united states of Europe – run along the lines of the federal states of Switzerland, Germany or the USA" which would capitalize on Europe's size by agreeing on core issues relating to finance, tax and economic politics.[168]

In 2015, von der Leyen argued that a form of EU army should be a long-term goal. She also said that she was convinced about the goal of a combined military force, just as she was convinced that "perhaps not my children, but then my grandchildren will experience a United States of Europe"

Odd that so many who were in favour of UK remaining in the EU were very insistent that the EU has no intentions of creating a United States of Europe or its own standing army, when the president is obviously very keen on both ideas...

Also she's clearly a bit chippy about the British in general:

Following the 2016 European Union membership referendum in the United Kingdom, she argued that the UK had "paralysed" European efforts to integrate security policy and "consistently blocked everything with the label 'Europe' on it."[172] She has described Brexit as "a burst bubble of hollow promises''.

'We Germans are not all smiles und sunshine.'

struth

21-03-2021, 08:57

Interesting that they would pick her as President given Brexit and the general dissatisfaction with the EU across Europe. She's very much a hardliner when it comes to the 'EU project':

In a 2011 interview with Der Spiegel, von der Leyen expressed her preference for "a united states of Europe – run along the lines of the federal states of Switzerland, Germany or the USA" which would capitalize on Europe's size by agreeing on core issues relating to finance, tax and economic politics.[168]

In 2015, von der Leyen argued that a form of EU army should be a long-term goal. She also said that she was convinced about the goal of a combined military force, just as she was convinced that "perhaps not my children, but then my grandchildren will experience a United States of Europe"

Odd that so many who were in favour of UK remaining in the EU were very insistent that the EU has no intentions of creating a United States of Europe or its own standing army, when the president is obviously very keen on both ideas...

Also she's clearly a bit chippy about the British in general:

Following the 2016 European Union membership referendum in the United Kingdom, she argued that the UK had "paralysed" European efforts to integrate security policy and "consistently blocked everything with the label 'Europe' on it."[172] She has described Brexit as "a burst bubble of hollow promises''.

'We Germans are not all smiles und sunshine.'

first half of 20th c attests to that;)

Filterlab

21-03-2021, 09:50

They're ALL utterly corrupt and beyond useless (self-serving wankers), especially the shower we have in power now (it even rhymes, eh)?:D

Marco.

No doubt about that.

Filterlab

21-03-2021, 10:33

Macca

21-03-2021, 11:00

Now over half the UK adult population vaccinated.

It's bewildering that such a feat can be undertaken so swiftly and excellently, yet the test and trace app cost an utterly ridiculous £37bn and doesn't work. I've known apps to be developed in 13 year old's bedrooms' and work perfectly.

What are they doing? And why can't those put in charge of the vaccination roll out run the rest of the departments?!

The app itself works fine, it's the wider issues involved with test and trace that are the problem https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nhs-test-trace-not-working-reasons_uk_5f6cbfb2c5b6e2c912625fcd

Macca

21-03-2021, 11:06

Also from what I can find the claim that £37 billion has been spent on test and trace operations as a whole is completely false.

walpurgis

21-03-2021, 11:14

Must have been a typo, it was actually a £37 advert in Loot :).

struth

21-03-2021, 11:20

The app itself works fine, it's the wider issues involved with test and trace that are the problem https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nhs-test-trace-not-working-reasons_uk_5f6cbfb2c5b6e2c912625fcd

those are old figures tho. latest here..

https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/charts-and-infographics/nhs-test-and-trace-performance-tracker

Filterlab

21-03-2021, 11:32

Must have been a typo, it was actually a £37 advert in Loot :).

That's certainly the real value of it.

Marco

21-03-2021, 11:34

Macca

21-03-2021, 11:58

Have you booked or had your vaccine yet?:)

Marco.

No, you know me! I will have to get around to it. Not done the census yet either.

Pigmy Pony

21-03-2021, 12:04

Just done my census (or rather Mrs P did it for me). Turns out I have more qualifications than I thought! I sometimes forget I used to have a brain :)

Macca

21-03-2021, 12:18

done the census now so that's one more thing out the way.

Why do they want to know whether you have central heating or not? Seems like an odd thing to ask.

I like that people living in end terraces are not allowed to pass them off as being 'semi-detached'

struth

21-03-2021, 12:24

mad-moon

21-03-2021, 12:33

Macca

21-03-2021, 12:35

not sure why, as they are semi detached;) ours was posponed due to cv19 apparently..

Technically true but really it's only social climbers and estate agents that claim it as a reality. :)

Houses either side from me have been empty for a while now so I should qualify as detached. :D

struth

21-03-2021, 12:46

Technically true but really it's only social climbers and estate agents that claim it as a reality. :)

Houses either side from me have been empty for a while now so I should qualify as detached. :D

more like the middle classes are complaining the scummy working classes are causing a lowering of their real semis:D

Macca

21-03-2021, 12:47

lol that too.

Marco

21-03-2021, 14:17

more like the middle classes are complaining the scummy working classes are causing a lowering of their real semis..

Haha, and if you actually care about that kind of pish, you deserve taken out and shot...

A 'semi' is about right, as that's about as BIG as they'll ever get! More like a baldy half-incher:wanker::wanker:

:D

Marco.

Macca

22-03-2021, 12:17

I'm booked in to have my Bill Gates microchip inserted, next Saturday 0955.

Have to go bloody miles for it though, what a pain in the arse.

The vaccination centre is a Scout hut. Probably the same hut where people had to go to be issued their gas masks in 1939. Something re-assuringly unchanging and British about that.

No doubt on the Continent they will be getting their vaccines in a flash modern clinic, all stainless steel and white marble. Paid for by all the free money we've given them over the years. That's if they had any vaccines to give out of course...:D

walpurgis

22-03-2021, 12:36

What 'flavour' are they giving you Martin? I had the Oxford/AstraZeneca on the 18th and still feel slightly shitty.

Roy S

22-03-2021, 12:52

walpurgis

22-03-2021, 12:59

Had the Pfizer one at the end of February with apparently no ill effects, I'm convinced the vaccinator just pressed the cotton wool on my arm without actually injecting anything, think they've put me in a placebo experimentation group without telling me.

My wife had the Pfizer jab too and with no discernible negative effects, but my daughter had the Oxford/AstraZeneca as I did and she felt a bit rough for a few days after.

Macca

22-03-2021, 13:27

What 'flavour' are they giving you Martin? I had the Oxford/AstraZeneca on the 18th and still feel slightly shitty.

No idea, I guess you don't find out until you get there. Whatever they've got in the 'fridge I suppose.

Marco

22-03-2021, 13:27

I'm booked in to have my Bill Gates microchip inserted, next Saturday 0955.

Have to go bloody miles for it though, what a pain in the arse.

Haha... If I was having one, the furthest I'd be going would be my GP's surgery [5 mins walk from my door, and which I haven't been near in 15 years]:D

I believe that's what happens when you wait to be invited for a jab, rather than chase it, in which case you end up being sent miles away..;)

Marco.

P.S Apparently, repeated exposure to Steely Dan disables the tracking chip's transmitter (shuts down in protest), so you'll be ok.

Macca

22-03-2021, 13:31

Haha... If I was having one, the furthest I'd be going would be my GP's surgery [5 mins walk from my door, and which I haven't been near in 15 years):D

I believe that's what happens when you wait to be invited for a jab, rather than chase it, in which case you end up being sent miles away..;)

Marco.

I was invited. Either there are none near me or they are all booked up. It 's actually only a little more than 2 miles away so not really a big deal, but I was hoping it would be at the doctor's surgery which is only about half a mile.

Marco

22-03-2021, 14:18

I was invited. Either there are none near me or they are all booked up. It 's actually only a little more than 2 miles away so not really a big deal, but I was hoping it would be at the doctor's surgery which is only about half a mile.

Ah I see... That's a bit shite, innit? Hardly encouraging folks to have the vaccine if you have to travel for miles to some obscure location, especially if you don't have a car, like you. I presume that there isn't a bus stop or train station right outside of this 'Scout hut', so how far are you having to walk?

Fook that for a game of soldiers... For me, it'd need to be somewhere convenient for ME to get to (quickly and easily), or bollox to it.

Anyway, enjoy:)

Marco.

struth

22-03-2021, 14:21

for most part doctors surgeries dont seem to be doing it. the place here is about 2 miles away too. seems to be the way they are doing it.

Macca

22-03-2021, 14:28

Ah I see... That's a bit shite, innit? Hardly encouraging folks to have the vaccine if you have to travel for miles to some obscure location, especially if you don't have a car, like you. I presume that there isn't a bus stop or train station right outside of this 'Scout hut', so how far are you having to walk?

Fook that for a game of soldiers... For me, it'd need to be somewhere convenient for ME to get to (quickly and easily), or bollox to it.

Anyway, enjoy:)

Marco.

It's two miles so not really a big deal, I walk a lot further than that for fun. Was just expecting it to be closer.

Marco

22-03-2021, 14:30

for most part doctors surgeries dont seem to be doing it. the place here is about 2 miles away too. seems to be the way they are doing it.

Interesting, mate. My dad had his done at his GP's surgery, and everyone else I know of around here has had the same at theirs. For me, that's the only sensible way to do it. If the goal is to encourage as many folks as possible to have a jab, then it makes sense to inconvenience people the LEAST.

What if you don't have your own transport and/or are infirm?

And the question that begs asking is if doctors' surgeries are all booked up, then WHO gets prioritised to receive the benefit of that convenience, and why should those who don't, and being forced to travel for miles, put up with being treated as second-class citizens?

Might not bother some, but that would defo bother me, so I'd only entertain going to the local GP's surgery or somewhere else in town that was easily accessible, and if necessary wait until there was a place available at those venues before being vaccinated.

Marco.

Marco

22-03-2021, 14:32

It's two miles so not really a big deal, I walk a lot further than that for fun. Was just expecting it to be closer.

Sure, it might not be a big deal for you because you've got the time and are able to walk wherever you need to go, not everyone will.

Anyway, no point in arguing about it, as you're cool with it. I'm just making a (valid) point:)

Marco.

struth

22-03-2021, 14:34

Interesting, mate. My dad had his done in his GP's surgery, and everyone else I know of around here had the same at therirs. For me, that's the only sensible way to do it. If the goal is to encourage as many folks as possible to have it, then it makes sense to inconvenience people the LEAST.

What if you don't have your own transport and/or are infirm?

And the question that begs asking is if doctors' surgeries are all booked up, then WHO gets prioritised to receive the benefit of that convenience, and why should those who don't, and being forced to travel for miles, put up with being treated as second-class citizens?

Might not bother some, but that would defo bother me, so I'd only entertain going to the local GP's surgery or somewhere else in town that's easily accessible, and if necessary wait until there was a place available.

Marco.

surgeries here were doing the old folk, but since then its been at the big vaccine centre at the Motarolla building.. they did put busses on direct to it i believe tho. i would have gone there if i could have breathed in a mask. still ive not heard any more so way things are going its gonna get timed out with lack of vaccine :doh:

Macca

22-03-2021, 14:35

You can opt to wait, I've done that for my second one as the scout hut is fully booked then and the nearest available one is three towns over. I mean I could walk to that one two but it is seven miles away. And then seven back.

According to the website there are new locations 'opening all the time.' So I'll see how it goes.

struth

22-03-2021, 15:57

Results from the long-awaited US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine are out and confirm that the shot is both safe and highly effective.

More than 32,000 volunteers took part, mostly in America, but also in Chile and Peru.

The vaccine was 79% effective at stopping symptomatic Covid disease and 100% effective at preventing people from falling seriously ill.

And there were no safety issues regarding blood clots.

Marco

22-03-2021, 15:59

surgeries here were doing the old folk, but since then its been at the big vaccine centre at the Motarolla building.. they did put busses on direct to it i believe tho. i would have gone there if i could have breathed in a mask. still ive not heard any more so way things are going its gonna get timed out with lack of vaccine :doh:

Have you dialled 119 (as Macca mentioned) and booked an appointment, or are you waiting to be invited?:)

Marco.

struth

22-03-2021, 16:05

Have you dialled 119 (as Macca mentioned) and booked an appointment, or are you waiting to be invited?:)

Marco.

ive been told im on list for a home jab... but ive not heard anything since and was told not to call.. 3 weeks since i heard anything. i see old blowjob has had his:eyebrows: i can just take it that fate is playing its hand re me.:)

Pigmy Pony

22-03-2021, 17:51

Haha... If I was having one, the furthest I'd be going would be my GP's surgery [5 mins walk from my door, and which I haven't been near in 15 years]:D

I believe that's what happens when you wait to be invited for a jab, rather than chase it, in which case you end up being sent miles away..;)

Marco.

P.S Apparently, repeated exposure to Steely Dan disables the tracking chip's transmitter (shuts down in protest), so you'll be ok.

True. Every tracking chip is allocated a number, but apparently Rickki keeps losing it :)

struth

22-03-2021, 17:58

True. Every tracking chip is allocated a number, but apparently Rickki keeps losing it :)

keep eating pretzels

Pigmy Pony

22-03-2021, 17:59

Ah I see... That's a bit shite, innit? Hardly encouraging folks to have the vaccine if you have to travel for miles to some obscure location, especially if you don't have a car, like you. I presume that there isn't a bus stop or train station right outside of this 'Scout hut', so how far are you having to walk?

Fook that for a game of soldiers... For me, it'd need to be somewhere convenient for ME to get to (quickly and easily), or bollox to it.

Anyway, enjoy:)

Marco.

Listen to yourself! It's 2 bloody miles, you'd walk further than that just to kick some dead leaves round the park! :ner: which isn't exactly something that may save you from real illness or worse. Even Zafu from the Water Aid adverts walks way further for a bucket of dirty water...

Pigmy Pony

22-03-2021, 18:05

keep eating pretzels

There's some logic to that idea

Pigmy Pony

22-03-2021, 18:10

Most GP surgeries won't be suitable for vaccinating at the rate needed. Also they probably don't want to clog the places with vaccinees (is that a word?) when there are still plenty of non-Covid patients needing appointments. I'm sure exceptions are being made for elderly/infirm, but this all takes time.

All in all I think it's going pretty good, though nothing is perfect.

guy

22-03-2021, 20:04

From what I have seen it seems to be very old/infirm getting jab at our local GP. I was invited to a "sports hall" in Ipswich (about 6 miles away). Seemed perfectly fair and logical to me.
Efficient and thoughtful service allocated according to need. Just very pleased that we are out of the EU; I wouldn't expect to be invited to attend for another year or so (after another two or three lockdowns) if we were still part of it.

Macca

22-03-2021, 20:22

Pierre De Grenoble

22-03-2021, 20:37

ive been told im on list for a home jab... but ive not heard anything since and was told not to call.. 3 weeks since i heard anything. i see old blowjob has had his:eyebrows: i can just take it that fate is playing its hand re me.:)

For what its worth Grant, being told not to call back ( about anything by anyone) would set me off. I'd be calling them again after a week and then 5 days and then 3... Hope you get it sorted and soon.

Marco

22-03-2021, 20:38

Listen to yourself! It's 2 bloody miles, you'd walk further than that just to kick some dead leaves round the park! :ner: which isn't exactly something that may save you from real illness or worse. Even Zafu from the Water Aid adverts walks way further for a bucket of dirty water...

Hahaha... Yes, but you have to see it from my point of view, in terms of having hee-haw interest in getting the thing in the first place, and so the added hassle of having to make a concerted effort to go and get it, especially, horror of horrors, if I had to mix with the unwashed masses on buses or something [if I didn't drive], as part of that process, simply reinforces my feelings!:ner::D

;)

Anyway, that's just me. My sincerest best wishes go to those who want it, get it, and hopefully gain greatly from having it:)

Marco.

P.S most of the vaccinations here are occurring at GP's surgeries locally (with various age groups).

Macca

22-03-2021, 21:27

Thing is I have to get it otherwise I can't go and visit my mother. She's had the vaccine and if I've had it too it greatly reduces the chance of her getting it or getting it bad. Since she is 81 this year so it's better safe than sorry. If it wasn't for that I'd probably leave it a few months or indefinitely.

Marco

22-03-2021, 22:08

Absolutely mate, go for it, and I completely understand:)

I was just making the point that the EASIER you make it available for folks to have, the more likely they'll be to have it, and if you're at all concerned/have second thoughts about having the jab, then that 2 or 3 mile trek (or more) to some out of the way centre, hut or whatever, could just be enough to put you off the whole thing - and therefore the reality is that for some in that category, it will.

Marco.

Marco

22-03-2021, 22:17

From what I have seen it seems to be very old/infirm getting jab at our local GP. I was invited to a "sports hall" in Ipswich (about 6 miles away). Seemed perfectly fair and logical to me.

As opposed to how even fairer and more logical it would be to get it somewhere in your own town, 6 miles nearer home?;)

I could understand it (and maybe with you it is the case) if you live in a little village with no suitable facilities for undertaking vaccinations, so you have to travel to the nearest big town (or city) to get it, but otherwise you'd think that some town hall, sports centre, church or whatever in your own town could be used instead for the purpose, rather in something else six miles away?

Just seems odd to me, but there you are:)

Marco.

Macca

22-03-2021, 22:22

Pigmy Pony

23-03-2021, 07:02

The venue for my first vaccination was about 200 yards away from my GP surgery, but has much better parking, and is big enough to provide large waiting area, plenty of makeshift cubicles (screens), large "recovery" areas (all enabling social distancing) and a one-way system. All staffed by people who are not needed back at the surgery.

Hope you get yours sorted soon Grant - as Steve says you perhaps need to keep on at them. The squeaky wheel that gets the oil and all that ;)

Marco

23-03-2021, 08:59

I suppose there are only so many locations they can have limited by how many people they have to do the work. You can't just rope in people off the street to do the injections, they have to be qualified to some extent.

So you pick locations that cover areas with the most amount of people with as little overlap as possible. If you live right by the overlap, you're going to be a fair distance away.

Sure, I get that. And if you're in the latter category, don't drive, or can't afford a car, thus are relying on public transport, then you could be faced with the need to use a number of buses and/or trains to get to these venues, potentially up to 10 miles away (or more?) and a long walk at the end [presuming that you are able bodied enough?] as they're unlikely all to be located on bus routes or next to train stations, along with the amount of time all of that entails.

In some cases, it could take the best part of a day to get there, get the jab, and back.

I just think that they should be utilising local GP surgeries more (as they are here in my town), especially as most of the elderly and vulnerable have now been vaccinated, thereby ensuring that trained personnel are undertaking vaccinations, and at venues nearby and convenient for those having them.

Marco.

struth

23-03-2021, 09:15

if youve no car or no access to one and are fit enough i'd say walking is by far the safest way.. outside seems to be the safest place by far. But, and im sure this will be case elsewhere, our centre is on a dual carriageway and not really suitable to walk to. That is typical of the poor orginisation, and lack of thought thats gone into sites. Im sure a better accessed place could have been found.

Marco

23-03-2021, 09:23

struth

23-03-2021, 09:39

yup, and they say busses are one of the worst places, yet they make it hard not to use.. suppose its better than nice easy to get to places and no vaccine tho;)

Marco

23-03-2021, 09:42

Indeed, but you know me, I like living in the happy middle ground of fairest/best compromises, blissfully free from extremes!;)

Marco.

mad-moon

23-03-2021, 09:48

but if you'd bought a new piece of hifi equipment, I bet you'd find a way, come hell or high water, to go and collect it, no matter how far away it is, even during a lockdown amidst a pandemic...:ner:

Filterlab

23-03-2021, 10:07

Marco

23-03-2021, 10:09

Nope, not during a lockdown in my area or that of where I'm going, but otherwise yes, as life carries on regardless. Therefore, if you've got things to do, you've got things to do.. In any case, fortunately I have a car and can drive, so the issue I'm referring to doesn't apply (if I wanted a jab).

Anyway, 'Mr Soothsayer', I'm still waiting for this miraculous, life-changing event, you predicted would occur on the 15th of this month, and which is distinctly conspicuous by its absence!::ner:

I think your crystal ball needs polishing!:D;)

Marco.

Macca

23-03-2021, 10:28

Nope, not during a lockdown in my area or that of where I'm going, but otherwise yes, as life goes on regardless. Therefore, if you've got things to do, you've got things to do.. In any case, fortunately I have a car and can drive, so the issue I'm referring to doesn't apply (if I wanted a jab).

In any case, 'Mr Soothsayer', I'm still waiting for this miraculous, life-changing event, you predicted would occur on the 15th of this month, and which is distinctly conspicuous by its absence!::ner:

I think your crystal ball needs polishing!:D;)

Marco.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ides_of_March

Marco

23-03-2021, 10:37

Lol - not sure that's what he was referring to, so perhaps the Alanster could confirm?:)

Marco.

Filterlab

23-03-2021, 11:22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ides_of_March

Luckily it's almost April again. :D

Marco

23-03-2021, 11:55

Lol - shall we devise a cunning 'April Fool' for members of AoS?:D:eyebrows:

Temporarily redirect the the forum to a porn site, or something?:lol:

Marco.

guy

23-03-2021, 12:24

Indeed, mate, but in Guy's case (or worse), you'd have to be pretty fit to walk the necessary six miles, and of course the other six back!;)

And what if it's pissing down with rain on the day of your jab? No, it seems to be that in many cases things have been poorly thought out.

Marco.

Hi Marco - your first response to my post had the correct scenario.
We live in a small village, our nearest GP is a couple of miles away in the next village, the GP serves several small villages on what is known as the Shotley peninsula.
So it makes sense for our GP to be offering vaccinations to the very elderly/infirm in the locality (at least that seems the case from what I saw).

I thought that going about six miles to a gym in Ipswich was fine - I am early sixties, have a car and can go "off-peak" as I am retired.

I should have explained my thinking better in my earlier post. Keep GP vaccinations for locals for whom travel may cause problems (or home visits where possible).

The gym location was perfect in my view - easy access/parking, ideal building with lots of reception area leading in to the gym with partitioned "injection points" (must have been at least ten screened bays for being inoculated. Lots of space for fast smooth flow of people.
I really am impressed with how things are being run here.

Marco

23-03-2021, 12:36

Fair enough, mate. In that case then understandable, but otherwise less so:)

Marco.

Gazjam

23-03-2021, 17:29

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

walpurgis

23-03-2021, 17:45

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

Appears to depend on which type you get.

The Pfizer seems to give little or no after effects from what I've been told by those who've had it, whereas the Oxford/AstraZeneca can leave folk a bit off colour for a few days, nothing desperately awful though. That's the one I had.

Marco

23-03-2021, 18:23

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

All the best with it, mate:)

What's with the new avatar, btw?

ATB,
Marco.

guy

23-03-2021, 18:33

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

I had the Astra: noticed that I felt a bit "snuffly" about five hours after jab, also felt tired so went to bed earlier than normal (about 22.30)
Next day felt really tired and aching bit like start of flu, spent quite a lot of the day in bed - plenty of water to drink and had a few paracetamol (as per instructions :))
Fine next day; in fact felt really good.

One possibility is that I may have had the virus already (which I think that I have), so immune system was primed for the vaccine

Roy S

23-03-2021, 18:34

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

I was fine with the Pfizer, it did make my other half poorly for a couple of days but she's a wuss anyway.

Pigmy Pony

23-03-2021, 18:41

Question for those that have had their first jab?
Getting mine tomorrow, and side effects felt?

Ta. :)

Anita had the AstraZenica jab, and was a bit headachy for a couple of days. I had the Pfizer, and I think I was fine, apart from mad shits for a day. I likened it to oxtail soup shot out of a fireman's hose :) probably nothing to do with the jab...

Good luck mate, and don't be worrying about which vaccine you get. I certainly wouldn't be concerned.

walpurgis

23-03-2021, 18:42

I had the Astra: noticed that I felt a bit "snuffly" about five hours after jab

That's about how long it took for me to start feeling a bit crappy (and I'd had the virus two months before)..

Gazjam

24-03-2021, 18:47

All the best with it, mate:)

What's with the new avatar, btw?

ATB,
Marco.

Feeling optimistic Marco with the coming Spring, vaccines n stuff.
Its the venue where the Owsten hifi get together is held, the pic is a reminder that better days are near. :)

Bake Offs, gatherings n such has been greatly missed this last year.

Gazjam

24-03-2021, 18:49

Thanks Guys for all the positive stories.

Had it this morning at 10 AM, and have to say feel like I've got a flu coming on!
Felt progressively more ache-y as the days went on.

Measured my heart rate at points during the afternoon - all over the shop, quite high.
Early to bed for this boy, extra duvet to sweat it out me.

Quite a few guys at work have felt bad afterwards, hopefully its a 1 day thing.

Firebottle

24-03-2021, 18:49

Good one Gary, didn't recognise it as Owsten. Be great to get back there.

I had a bit of the achy feeling after my jab but it was gone the next morning.

walpurgis

24-03-2021, 18:54

Thanks Guys for all the positive storys.

Had it this morning at 10 AM, and have to say feel like I've got a flu coming on!
Felt progressively more ache-y as the days went on.

Measured my heart rate at points during the afternoon - all over the shop, quite high.
Early to bed for this boy, extra duvet to sweat it out me.

Quite a few guys at work have felt bad afterwards, hopefully its a 1 day thing.

I take it that was the Oxford/AstraZeneca one then Gary?

Gazjam

24-03-2021, 19:04

Yeah Geoff,

The AstraZeneca one.
Fun fact?

Sitting in the car afterwards for a while I got on the phone and Googled it...
Apparently one of the main components of it is a compound that's recognised to give Chimpanzee's the common cold!

Sure there's a joke in there somewhere :lol:

Gazjam

24-03-2021, 19:04

Amen Brother.

Good one Gary, didn't recognise it as Owsten. Be great to get back there.

I had a bit of the achy feeling after my jab but it was gone the next morning.

walpurgis

24-03-2021, 21:47

Yeah Geoff,

The AstraZeneca one.

Tell us how you feel tomorrow.

Barry

24-03-2021, 23:53

What's with the new avatar, btw?

Its the venue where the Owsten hifi get together is held, the pic is a reminder that better days are near. :)

Now there I was thinking it was your gaff Gary!

mad-moon

25-03-2021, 00:51

Marco

25-03-2021, 09:05

Feeling optimistic Marco with the coming Spring, vaccines n stuff.
Its the venue where the Owsten hifi get together is held, the pic is a reminder that better days are near. :)

Bake Offs, gatherings n such has been greatly missed this last year.

Good stuff, mate. Like Alan, I didn't recognise the building as being the Owston venue. Haven't been to Owston for years, as it's largely a DIY/audio talk thing. I'd have thought the last NEBO venue would've been more relevant for AoS?;)

Lol, but it get your point:)

Keep us posted on how you're getting through the side-effects of the vaccine. They do say if you've had Covid, you're more likely to suffer from the side-effects you describe, and you did say you thought you'd caught it last year...

Anyway, mate hope the ill effects subside and you feel better soon!:cool:

Marco.

Marco

25-03-2021, 09:10

It was a joke Marco...Think Julius Caeser...A soothsayer said... "beware the ides of March"...Maybe it was too deep..?

Lol, yeah of course I'm aware of the above. I just didn't connect it with what you said at the time:)

Marco.

guy

25-03-2021, 11:02

Marco

25-03-2021, 11:16

Don't get me started on that. It's gross discrimination (comes under the same category as mandatory vaccinations) and should never be allowed in any society that purports to be truly FREE and democratic. Also, what if you don't have a smartphone, in order to utilise the proposed app?

Plus, there's no conclusive proof yet that if you've been vaccinated you're a) immune to Covid, or crucially, b) unable still to transmit the virus. It's bollox, and simply 'Big Brother' trying to impose yet more control on our lives!

In any case, if introduced, it'll cause all sorts of ructions, and riots by human rights protestors, such as we've already seen in our major cities, and which would only be the tip of the iceberg! I certainly wouldn't like to be any pub worker or publican trying to enforce this and keep those out who 'don't qualify for entry'! It'll be utter mayhem on busy weekends:doh:

Marco.

struth

25-03-2021, 11:21

inclined to agree.. its out of order

Marco

25-03-2021, 11:28

Exactly, mate. How the likes of Guy can say 'Fine by me' beggars belief, as he obviously hasn't considered the wider implications of this, in terms of its potential impact on our freedoms and human rights in future, if this grossly unjust and discriminative legislation becomes reality.

Quite simply, it's fundamentally WRONG! And here's why.. From the above article:

"The idea of asking pub goers to show a vaccine certificate was raised at Wednesday's House of Commons Liaison Committee hearing, when Conservative William Wragg asked Mr Johnson if vaccine certificates were "compatible with a free society such as ours".

The answer: no they fucking aren't!! They're grossly INCOMPATIBLE.

It was mooted that it may be up to individual publicans what they do, so if introduced I'll be drinking in pubs that say a huge FUCK OFF TO VACCINE CERTIFICATES!!! :steam::finger:

And if there are protest marches in the streets about this, I'll be there!! If necessary, this needs fought and defeated, by people power, just like the poll tax.

Marco.

mad-moon

25-03-2021, 12:35

It is being suggested that we may need a Covid vaccination certificate/"passport" to go to the pub
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56517486

Fine by me, but where/how do I get one?
(I guess my local would accept my appointment confirmation email, although that doesn't confirm that I actually turned up and had it)

Guy..The article says, could not would and it may be up to the publican to choose what he/she wants to do...Many people can't have a vaccine for one reason and/or another..these individuals and the people who don't want vaccinated may have to prove they have been tested and proved negative for covid, before entry....This is just the start of things to come, because more people have had the vaccine, than not, So..Anyone in this type of business, are going to want to protect these individuals in the majority, who will be their customers...Come in you are welcome..Unfortunately, It's coming and I would guess for the mean time, it's going to be part of the new normal...life's a bitch..

I'd like to also add this..Any premises has the lawful right to refuse entry to anyone, they do not need a reason ...