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At least we'll have the unvaccinated to look after us - well the ones who aren't yet dead :)
No, you get to eat us, and I'll save you the contents of my bum.
Marco.
Stryder5
18-06-2021, 09:28
At least we'll have the unvaccinated to look after us - well the ones who aren't yet dead :)
Screw that, you made your bed, lie in it! :D
Gary
Analysis from PHE suggests a single dose of Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines reduce your chances of catching coronavirus and then needing to go to hospital with it by about three quarters.
The effect of the vaccine does not depend on the variant: a single dose of vaccine is just as good at preventing hospitalisation for Delta as for Alpha.
Although we already know the first dose of the vaccine is slightly blunted by Delta – that’s for your chances of catching coronavirus. It looks like fewer of those Delta cases who’ve been vaccinated go on to require hospitalisation.
Among people who have received two doses of the vaccine, the chances of catching and being hospitalised by coronavirus is reduced by more than 90%. We already knew two doses were as good against Delta as they were against Alpha.
walpurgis
18-06-2021, 11:08
My second Oxford/AstraZeneca jab is next week. Felt a bit rough for three days after the first, small price to pay!
I'm not exactly worried about catching Covid 19 anyway, as I'd already had it in January, so my resistance to reinfection should remain high. Some say for at least six months, others suggest possibly indefinitely. Regardless of strain (so far).
I've got my second coming up a week tomorrow. Didn't have any issues from the first one except slightly sore arm for two days.
I had a slightly sore arm (around the puncture point) and felt a bit achy the next day, which is what I was expecting, but it only lasted a day. Absolutely no side effects after the second dose.
However my partner, after having the first jab, reacted quite badly: severe fatigue; dizziness; ache and only wanted to sleep. It lasted a day and a half (I had warned her it could last a couple of days), and by the evening of the second day she was back to here usual self. Apparently she reacted really badly after having a flu jab a few years ago, so she was very reluctant to have the Covid jab; given her reaction she may need some encouragement to have the second.
Filterlab
18-06-2021, 17:42
No, you get to eat us, and I'll save you the contents of my bum.
Marco.
Mmmmm, Bot Noodle.
Pigmy Pony
18-06-2021, 19:07
No, you get to eat us, and I'll save you the contents of my bum.
Marco.
That should keep me going through the winter if I dilute it a bit :)
Pigmy Pony
18-06-2021, 19:11
I've got my second coming up a week tomorrow. Didn't have any issues from the first one except slightly sore arm for two days.
Jesus! Is it Easter already?
Pigmy Pony
18-06-2021, 19:18
Mmmmm, Bot Noodle.
Marco did once try to market it, but couldn't get it past the Food Standards Agency, due to the noodles actually being tapeworms. Yummy
Filterlab
18-06-2021, 19:28
Also he looked like one of those Play-doh machines.
I think everyone should watch this video, especially those with concerns over male or female fertility, in terms of the issue of the safety and/or potential side-effects, in the short and long term, of the vaccines for Covid:
https://youtu.be/aMB1dRJNHe8
Marco.
walpurgis
19-06-2021, 14:09
Government advisor says "third wave is definitely under way".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-delta-variant-indian-cases-vaccine-lockdown/
Wow, I don't think we'd ever have figured that out!
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Pigmy Pony
19-06-2021, 14:15
Government advisor says "third wave is definitely under way".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-delta-variant-indian-cases-vaccine-lockdown/
Wow, I don't think we'd ever have figured that out!
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Another wave on the way, here it is :wave: will they ever end? :wave::wave::wave:
The main thing is, that unlike with the first or second 'waves', people aren't dying in significant numbers, thankfully quite the opposite, and that's what will make the difference this time.
As I've said many times before, once everyone's been vaccinated, who wants it, we simply have to live with Covid, much like flu, and let nature take its course!
Marco.
walpurgis
19-06-2021, 14:19
The main thing is, that unlike with the first or second 'waves', people aren't dying in significant numbers, thankfully quite the opposite, and that's what will make the difference this time.
Marco.
Yeah, Seems it's largely the more resilient youngsters spreading it amongst themselves and the prevalent Delta mutation may not be so deadly.
Pigmy Pony
19-06-2021, 14:27
The main thing is, that unlike with the first or second 'waves', people aren't dying in significant numbers, thankfully quite the opposite, and that's what will make the difference this time.
As I've said many times before, once everyone's been vaccinated, who wants it, we simply have to live with Covid, much like flu, and let nature take its course!
Marco.
I think the media need to stop playing up this 'waves' malarky - most people I know have already had both jabs, but a lot of folk are still keeping away from others out of fear. It's gonna take a while to get past this.
Yes I agree, although the fear factor was largely created by the media!:doh:
I'm guessing it's mostly older folks though who are scared, as everyone we know are now just getting on with their lives as best as possible, as they're fed up to the back teeth of the whole thing:rolleyes:
Marco.
Most of the bad illnesses; in fact most of the cases are of unvaccinated or partially done people. If youve had both for 2 weeks or so and arent overly succeptible to dying of something like that then just sensible precautions are really all you need.
If going into places where there will be closer metting of people then wear a mask so you cant pass anything on. otherwise just dont breathe over people you dont see much etc. Kids and younger folk are main carriers at moment
Pigmy Pony
19-06-2021, 15:22
Most of the bad illnesses; in fact most of the cases are of unvaccinated or partially done people. If youve had both for 2 weeks or so and arent overly succeptible to dying of something like that then just sensible precautions are really all you need.
If going into places where there will be closer metting of people then wear a mask so you cant pass anything on. otherwise just dont breathe over people you dont see much etc. Kids and younger folk are main carriers at moment
i agree entirely, and as Marco says it is mostly older people who are cutting themselves off out of fear, and it is these very people who need to get out and make the most of their remaining years, not be institutionalised by prolonged isolation. It is not their family and friends that have done this, it's down to what they get from TV and radio.
That interview with Dr. Malone raised legitimate concerns about long-term side effects from vaccines, especially to the ovaries and bone marrow, and he should know.
I get a bit fed up with everything Covid related. Just all worries me to bits. But there is no alternative to vaccination IMO. If we are ever to get back to normal socialising. Hopefully in a month things will improve. At least we can now gather at the beach for socially distanced exercise like swimming and TaiChi in groups of 30. My health deteriorated dramatically in lockdown, and I got fed up with walks on the common. And my mental health has suffered too. I feel like there is nothing good going on in my life.
Filterlab
20-06-2021, 11:19
I feel like there is nothing good going on in my life.
There's all your friends on here. :)
I too am fed up with it all. The wealth of contradictory information and ridiculous restrictions drive me mad. What I do know is that I haven't had the vaccine and I feel fine. I visit dozens of clients a week and they're all fine too (aside from one paranoid barn pot who is her village's resident hypochondriac).
That interview with Dr. Malone raised legitimate concerns about long-term side effects from vaccines, especially to the ovaries and bone marrow, and he should know.
I get a bit fed up with everything Covid related. Just all worries me to bits. But there is no alternative to vaccination IMO. If we are ever to get back to normal socialising. Hopefully in a month things will improve. At least we can now gather at the beach for socially distanced exercise like swimming and TaiChi in groups of 30. My health deteriorated dramatically in lockdown, and I got fed up with walks on the common. And my mental health has suffered too. I feel like there is nothing good going on in my life.
you should try being me:lolsign::lolsign:
things will perk up
Including little Percy?:eyebrows:
Marco.
Including little Percy?:eyebrows:
Marco.
lost cause:D
Bksabath
21-06-2021, 10:34
Links of the day
This is related to a study of the use of Ivermectin
From the enclosed paper
Effect of Ivermectin on Anopheles gambiae Mosquitoes Fed on Humans: The Potential of Oral Insecticides in Malaria Control | The Journal of Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com) (https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/202/1/113/888773)
Christopher J. M. Whitty is one of the authors
From it …
Not only Ivermectin was proven to be safe for the human it was also found to kill the Mosquitos
Ergo Ivermectin in not only safer than water it is also safer than Insect spray and such
Skip to 11:26 of today DR J Campbell
Money for antivirals - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5_oiuqDp8)
Mind boggling to think that Chriss Whitty know that Ivermectin is safe for humans but
MHRA reply to my email keep saying not to take it and why he does not mention it?
Is withholding information endemic in the system?
Any one can ask the MHRA ;)
From: MHRA Customer Services <MHRACustomerServices@mhra.gov.uk>
Sent: 17 June 2021 13:47
To: BK sabath <
Subject: CSC 54742 Ivermectin and covid 19
Dearxxxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for your email.
For any medicine to be marketed in the UK, the product needs a licence and the applicant (company) must submit a marketing authorisation application that includes clear evidence for positive benefit risk in respect of safety, efficacy and quality. In the UK, ivermectin is not licensed for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 as thus far robust evidence of its efficacy and safety have not been made available for evaluation by MHRA or its expert advisory groups.
Please note that the WHO has recently issued a Guidance note advising that ivermectin is only to be used to treat COVID-19 within clinical trials. Please see link: WHO: Ivermectin should only-be-used-to-treat-covid-19-within-clinical-trials (https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-advises-that-ivermectin-only-be-used-to-treat-covid-19-within-clinical-trials). There is an ongoing clinical trial in the UK that is evaluating ivermectin in COVID-19 and when adequate, robust evidence of its efficacy and safety is available, it would be possible to authorise it. The FDA has also recently advised that they had not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous: Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA (https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19) Likewise, the EMA: EMA advises against use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 outside randomised clinical trials | European Medicines Agency (europa.eu) (https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials)
The MHRA, together with independent advisory groups, continues to review the emerging body of evidence regarding potential medicines for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.
Kind regards,
Ella
MHRA Customer Service Centre
Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
10 South Colonnade, Canary Wharf, London E14 4PU
Telephone 0203 080 6000
gov.uk/mhra (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/medicines-and-healthcare-products-regulatory-agency)
Ivermectin is no longer covered by a patent, they only last for 15 years, so pharmaceutical companies do not have any reason to sponsor a study one is ongoing in the UK how long is it going to take?
walpurgis
23-06-2021, 07:09
Having second A/Z jab lunchtime. Hopefully that'll be me sorted, unless some horrible new variant arises that we need further protection from. (still having a Flu jab in September though)
good luck.. see if you can get the pneumonia one too.
walpurgis
23-06-2021, 07:32
good luck.. see if you can get the pneumonia one too.
Had that two years ago Grant. It's a lifetime one I believe.
I presume you've pre-booked it, Geoff, and so it's not simply a drop in?
If so, hopefully you won't have to wait in some ridiculously long, non-socially distanced queue (which with timed appointments shouldn't exist in the first place) to get it:)
Anyway, hopefully you'll have no bad side-effects, which I don't thnk you did with the first one?
Marco.
Having second A/Z jab lunchtime. Hopefully that'll be me sorted, unless some horrible new variant arises that we need further protection from. (still having a Flu jab in September though)
I'm sure that I read somewhere that there will be a third "booster" required later in the year (just can't remember where I saw that).
Like you I will have a flu jab this winter. I never bothered before, but from now on it is "belt and braces" as far as vaccinations are concerned, if some agency decides to include a tracking device in the injection, then bloody good luck to them - I can't imagine anything less gratifying than scrutinising my movements :booty:
yeah, boosters will happen in autumn. tests at moment to see what will be best ones to give. i might have my second by then lol
walpurgis
23-06-2021, 09:29
I presume you've pre-booked it, Geoff, and so it's not simply a drop in?
If so, hopefully you won't have to wait in some ridiculously long, non-socially distanced queue (which with timed appointments shouldn't exist in the first place) to get it:)
Anyway, hopefully you'll have no bad side-effects, which I don't thnk you did with the first one?
Marco.
It is pre-booked Marco.
I've not seen a queue at a vaccination centre that wasn't properly socially distanced. On the three occasions I've visited there have been medical orderlies overseeing this.
And I did feel rough for about three days after the last one. I'll just have to put up with it if it happens again.
walpurgis
23-06-2021, 09:30
if some agency decides to include a tracking device in the injection, then bloody good luck to them - I can't imagine anything less gratifying than scrutinising my movements :booty:
It would be impossible to include an invisible tracking device.
It would be impossible to include an invisible tracking device.
you wouldn't be able to see it to fit it :ner: plus we dont have the technology
It would be impossible to include an invisible tracking device.
I know that, you know that, apparently 28% of Americans think otherwise :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52847648
Edit, just worked out (if survey is statistically correct): potentially 93,208,277 Americans believe that Bill Gates is behind dosing vaccines with trackers :)
I think about 4 million Americans think they have been abducted by aliens too.. A Strange country.
edit, i wonder how many will think they have been abducted by Bill Gates:ner:
That's a hell of a lot of "greater than light speed" craft entering our atmosphere :lol:
edit: or just one utilising time travel :scratch:
Bksabath
23-06-2021, 10:25
Link of the day
How can Peter Daszak be part of WHO's team investigating the original source of the outbreak? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html)
and copy and paste the head line
A conflict of interest: How can Peter Daszak, a British scientist who helped fund controversial experiments on coronaviruses by China's Batwoman, be part of WHO’s team investigating the original source of the outbreak?
and
WHO attacks AMERICA after Wuhan whitewash | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9244211/WHO-attacks-AMERICA-Wuhan-whitewash.html)
Peter Daszak removed from UN commission investigating COVID after being exposed for Lancet letter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9710875/Peter-Daszak-removed-COVID-commission-following-bombshell-conflict-report.html)
It is pre-booked Marco.
I've not seen a queue at a vaccination centre that wasn't properly socially distanced. On the three occasions I've visited there have been medical orderlies overseeing this.
And I did feel rough for about three days after the last one. I'll just have to put up with it if it happens again.
Ah I see, then hopefully any bad effects for you will be much lessened this time, mate:)
As for queues, I've seen plenty with pre-booking at vax centres, and everyone was all jumbled up together in a line with zero 'social distancing':doh:
Thing is, there shouldn't be any queues with *strictly timed* appointments! You arrive at the door of the centre at precisely the scheduled time, not hanging around outside it half an hour before(!) and you're taken at EXACTLY that time, as is the next person, and so on and so forth...
If everything runs properly, and folk do what they're supposed to do, there should be no queues!!
Marco [doesn't 'do' queues].
Link of the day
How can Peter Daszak be part of WHO's team investigating the original source of the outbreak? | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9129749/How-Peter-Daszak-WHOs-team-investigating-original-source-outbreak.html)
and copy and paste the head line
A conflict of interest: How can Peter Daszak, a British scientist who helped fund controversial experiments on coronaviruses by China's Batwoman, be part of WHO’s team investigating the original source of the outbreak?
and
WHO attacks AMERICA after Wuhan whitewash | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9244211/WHO-attacks-AMERICA-Wuhan-whitewash.html)
Peter Daszak removed from UN commission investigating COVID after being exposed for Lancet letter | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9710875/Peter-Daszak-removed-COVID-commission-following-bombshell-conflict-report.html)
Very interesting, Sandro!:)
As I said, (eventually) the truth will out...
Marco.
Like you I will have a flu jab this winter. I never bothered before, but from now on it is "belt and braces" as far as vaccinations are concerned, if some agency decides to include a tracking device in the injection, then bloody good luck to them - I can't imagine anything less gratifying than scrutinising my movements :booty:
Ha - well, I'll be doing the same as I've done for the last 50-odd years, whilst enjoying near-perfect health, and having hee-haw jabs of hee-haw!:D
Marco.
walpurgis
23-06-2021, 12:13
Ah I see, then hopefully any bad effects for you will be much lessened this time, mate:)
As for queues, I've seen plenty with pre-booking at vax centres, and everyone was all jumbled up together in a line with zero 'social distancing':doh:
Thing is, there shouldn't be any queues with *strictly timed* appointments! You arrive at the door of the centre at precisely the scheduled time, not hanging around outside it half an hour before(!) and you're taken at EXACTLY that time, as is the next person, and so on and so forth...
If everything runs properly, and folk do what they're supposed to do, there should be no queues!!
Marco [doesn't 'do' queues].
Well this time there was a long queue, so I turned around and walked off. I'll speak to the GP. I can't cope with standing for ages.
Jeez... You see, this is the kind of PISH you have to deal with!:rolleyes:
I'd have done exactly the same. If I couldn't walk in and be attended to at the allocated time, I'd simply walk off. Fook that for a game of soldiers.
WTF is causing all these queues? Plus, if you're appointment is for, say, 9am, and it takes half an hour to negotiate the bloody queue, then from then on it's all fecked and the game's a bogey!:doh:
Marco.
Should have been 2 queues.. a short one for folk with timed appointments, and another for the rest. Of course that may well be beyond their wit:doh:
Should have been 2 queues.. a short one for folk with timed appointments, and another for the rest. Of course that may well be beyond their wit:doh:
Yeah, you're crediting them with WAY too much common sense!:D
Plus, good luck with socially distancing all the folk in the relevant queues:lol:
Marco.
they are supposed to be 1 metre apart min...and wearing masks...
"Supposed to" and *are*, are two different things... Not from what I've seen here anyway.
Marco.
Well I have a fair distance to travel for mine so even if there is a queue I'll wait in it,
Only takes 30 seconds to do each person and there's more than one person administering the jabs so even a long queue won't take long to work through.
It's not like a queue in the supermarket or for the cashpoint where fuckers can arse about endlessly, you're just in and out.
Well I have a fair distance to travel for mine...
As I've said before, that for me would be another issue. It's really amazing what they expect folk to put up with, when with a bit better organising, things could be made so much more convenient.
I know it doesn't bother you, but it would do my bloody nut in, if I were remotely interested in having the thing.
Marco.
Good job you weren't around in the Blitz then, or for rationing. :D
it's really nothing to have to put up with, people are way too soft these days. What's ten minutes in a queue compared to dying a horrible, early death?
We're very lucky to live in this country and not some shithole where they'd happily walk for ten days to get a vaccine - if there was even one available to them.
Lol, I totally get where you're coming from, but for me it wasn't necessary for it to have been done that way, and the lack of consideration by those who organised it, for those having it, would've stuck in my throat. I'm simply not used to being rather anonymously or discourteously treated 'like a number'/part of a herd, but instead with a little more respect. Sorry.
In Wrexham, for example, all the vax points are within easy reach of the town centre. No-one was made to go to the back of beyond to get their 'jab'.
If I'd accepted mine, it would've involved a 3-min trip in the car, that is if vaccinations weren't also being carried out at local GP surgeries (far more civilised) - and precisely as it should have been everywhere else, especially in a city the size of Stoke!:ner:;)
Marco.
In fairness if I had a car it's about a ten minute drive, it's hardly asking much. You can't expect them to open one at the end of every street.
Due to the nature of the virus they can't use most surgeries as they are too small.
Plus I've always got the option of just not bothering to have it. If it was compulsory then I think you'd have a point.
In normal circumstances you have to wait even if you have an appointment. I've had the second slot of the day at the dentists, still had to wait 15 minutes past that time to be seen.
Opticians last month, ten minutes past the appointment time before I was seen - and that's a business!
Try going up to A&E to get stitches and a tetanus jab, you be lucky if they see you inside an hour.
Sometimes you just have to wait your turn, there's no use getting stressed about it.
hifi_dave
23-06-2021, 15:37
GP last week, 45 minutes late, Dentist Monday 20 minutes late, Hospital this morning on time.
Vaccination was on time and took 6 minutes from getting out of my car and back in again.
In fairness if I had a car it's about a ten minute drive, it's hardly asking much. You can't expect them to open one at the end of every street.
Due to the nature of the virus they can't use most surgeries as they are too small.
Plus I've always got the option of just not bothering to have it. If it was compulsory then I think you'd have a point.
In normal circumstances you have to wait even if you have an appointment. I've had the second slot of the day at the dentists, still had to wait 15 minutes past that time to be seen.
Opticians last month, ten minutes past the appointment time before I was seen - and that's a business!
Try going up to A&E to get stitches and a tetanus jab, you be lucky if they see you inside an hour.
Sometimes you just have to wait your turn, there's no use getting stressed about it.
doctors here were only doing over 80's and some special needs here i think. everyone else was to go to the loclized centres, but a lot of folk around here(old folk) were being told to go to edinburgh which is 20 miles away for their second one which is out of order. A good chuck were going to have to use several buses.
was a big kick up. but good ol' scottish govt ignored it;) they are good at ignoring their failures
In fairness if I had a car it's about a ten minute drive, it's hardly asking much. You can't expect them to open one at the end of every street.
Due to the nature of the virus they can't use most surgeries as they are too small.
Plus I've always got the option of just not bothering to have it. If it was compulsory then I think you'd have a point.
In normal circumstances you have to wait even if you have an appointment. I've had the second slot of the day at the dentists, still had to wait 15 minutes past that time to be seen.
Opticians last month, ten minutes past the appointment time before I was seen - and that's a business!
Try going up to A&E to get stitches and a tetanus jab, you be lucky if they see you inside an hour.
Sometimes you just have to wait your turn, there's no use getting stressed about it.
Lol - ignore me, mate. I'm just not used to doing stuff like that or medical shit in general, so am too grouchy and simply don't have the patience!:D
Del puts up with all sorts of cack, in that respect, I'd do my nut over, such as collecting sick notes (for her work) from the local surgery, which the doctor has 'inadvertently forgotten' to sign, thus another trip is needed to return and collect the signed sick note, prescriptions not being ready for collection, despite being told they are, and subsequently having to wait in a queue to get them - all sorts of pish!:doh:
I have a rather low-tolerance threshold for sheer incompetence, so just couldn't be doing with that sort of grief:nono:
Marco.
20 miles is crazy. I could understand that if you were up in the Highlands were everything is so spread out.
Mind you for lot of these oldies it's just something to pass the time. I used to have to get bus right across town to get to work, shift starts 1000, I be at the stop for 0900 and the buses would sail past, not stopping because packed full of pensioners.
They'd all been up since 0500, done as much pottering about the house as physically possible, so then it's on the bus into town to mill about there for a couple of hours. Meanwhile I'm late for work.
doctors here were only doing over 80's and some special needs here i think. everyone else was to go to the loclized centres, but a lot of folk around here(old folk) were being told to go to edinburgh which is 20 miles away for their second one which is out of order. A good chuck were going to have to use several buses.
Oh, FFS!!:lol::mental:
Utter madness... But that's precisely the sort of attitude by the authorities of 'treat folks like dirt/sheep, and fuck 'em', which makes my blood BOIL - and so I simply REFUSE to play the game!
They only get away with it because people are willing to put up with it, as they're either too lazy/apathetic (or weak) to do otherwise.
Marco.
Oh, FFS!!:lol::mental:
Utter madness... But that's precisely the sort of attitude by the authorities of 'treat folks like dirt/sheep, and fuck 'em', which makes my blood BOIL - and so I simply REFUSE to play the game!
They only get away with it because people are willing to put up with it, as they're either too lazy/apathetic (or weak) to do otherwise.
Marco.
Just have to look at my issues to see how much they actually care. just embarrassing, their lack of empathy.
I know mate, it's a bloody disgrace.
Marco.
Filterlab
23-06-2021, 17:48
It would be impossible to include an invisible tracking device.
And even if it could be done, the life of it would be short lived as it would be destroyed by the kidneys quite quickly. In the average human, blood is circulated around the entire body in 23 seconds. It wouldn't be around for long.
Besides which most people carry a mobile phone which already does the tracking thing.
nearly 3000 cases in scotland today... this indian variant is so easy to pass. Im betting its mostly the young that are carrying but nevertheless 5 folk died today. the most there has been for some time.
im keeping to myself;)
Filterlab
23-06-2021, 17:55
Whilst more than 8 people died on the roads today. Don't see a country locked down for that.
This constant scaremongering and the media pandering to disaster does my head in.
i can control the deaths on rd afaic, and im betting the 8 was in uk, not scotland... its not panic by any means, but im fairly old and at risk. ive had swine flu, pneumonia 3 times, and several other lung issues including Pleurisy . i have to be careful if i want to live long enough to be fed by del:ner:
i can control the deaths on rd afaic, and im betting the 8 was in uk, not scotland... its not panic by any means, but im fairly old and at risk. ive had swine flu, pneumonia 3 times, and several other lung issues including Pleurisy . i have to be careful if i want to live long enough to be fed by del::ner:
Haha, aye and goodness knows what else!:eek::D
Marco.
Haha, aye and goodness knows what else!:eek::D
Marco.
lol.... well she is my niece :ner: that makes you my nephew ffs:doh:
Lol... Yesh, it'sh all very exshiting:D
Marco.
Extra shiting? This is what we hope to avoid [emoji23]
I'm the number one toe massage specialist.. Just don't fling me out of a window [emoji23]
Lol - why would you get chucked out a window? I guess only if you messed up her foot massage!:lol:
Marco
Lol - why would you get chucked out a window? I guess only if you messed up her foot massage![emoji38]
MarcoWas from pulp fiction [emoji23]
Ah yes, the Marcellus Wallace thing - it didn't click first time, soz:eyebrows:
It was ONLY a foot massage, nothing heavy!:eek:
Marco.
Pieoftheday
23-06-2021, 19:50
And even if it could be done, the life of it would be short lived as it would be destroyed by the kidneys quite quickly. In the average human, blood is circulated around the entire body in 23 seconds. It wouldn't be around for long.
Besides which most people carry a mobile phone which already does the tracking thing.
Microchips do last a long time in dogs?
BBC news:
The Queen referred to Health Secretary Matt Hancock as "poor man" at a meeting with Boris Johnson.
"I've just been talking to your secretary of state for health, poor man.
He came for Privy Council," she told the prime minister.
"He's full of...", she added. "Full of beans?", offered Mr Johnson.
Any other offers? :)
Microchips do last a long time in dogs?
The don't put them in the dog's bloodstream though,
walpurgis
24-06-2021, 10:31
Well that went well. After a bit of phoning about yesterday, I found a fairly quiet local pharmacy doing 'walk-ins' and had the A/Z vaccine. Went there earlier and found somewhere to park nearby and was in by 10.55 and done by 11.00. No queues worth mentioning and seated screened waiting area
Now I'm waiting to see if I feel shitty in a while. I did last time! If I do, I'll medicate myself with some beer:)
Well that went well. After a bit of phoning about yesterday, I found a fairly quiet local pharmacy doing 'walk-ins' and had the A/Z vaccine. Went there earlier and found somewhere to park nearby and was in by 10.55 and done by 11.00. No queues worth mentioning and seated screened waiting area
Now I'm waiting to see if I feel shitty in a while. I did last time! If I do, I'll medicate myself with some beer:)
thats good geoff.. i expect you'll be ok this time
Well that went well. After a bit of phoning about yesterday, I found a fairly quiet local pharmacy doing 'walk-ins' and had the A/Z vaccine. Went there earlier and found somewhere to park nearby and was in by 10.55 and done by 11.00. No queues worth mentioning and seated screened waiting area
Nice one. However, this is my point... Why wasn't the above offered as a venue for your jab in the first place?
The organisers of this thing should have a list of *every* available place where you can receive the vaccine, in relation to where you live (as they obviously have your address), and subject to a predetermined amount of places available, give you the option of an appointment at that venue.
Not send everyone to the same place, just because it's big enough to 'house the herd', simply because it's easier for them, but possibly not very convenient for you!
Far more thought needs put into these things, so that the exercise is performed as efficiently and quickly as possible, with minimal hassle factor for those being vaccinated, as many folks have more important things to do than stand waiting in queues, or worse sent to bloody Timbuktu to have it!
Now I'm waiting to see if I feel shitty in a while. I did last time! If I do, I'll medicate myself with some beer:)
Quality... Hope the effect wears off soon. Just chill, mate, and take it easy:cool:
Marco.
The man who tested positive for Covid 43 times
Scientists are studying the case of a man in Bristol who has recovered from 290 days being positive with SARS-CoV-2.
Dave, 72, is a driving instructor and musician who's spent the last 10 months with an active coronavirus infection, visiting hospital seven times. His immune system was vulnerable to the virus after a leukaemia diagnosis and chemotherapy treatment.
Dave was eventually treated with a new mixture of anti-viral drugs provided by the US company Regeneron on compassionate grounds.
Now scientists at the University of Bristol are studying Dave's case to try and understand how Covid acts and mutates within the body.
Must be some sort of record...
walpurgis
24-06-2021, 15:24
Fortunate to recover considering age and prior illness.
To be fair it sounds like he was due a bit of luck.
Filterlab
24-06-2021, 16:58
Microchips do last a long time in dogs?
They are specifically placed not to move and are not part of another liquid. Any chip hidden in a vaccine would be removed by the body quite quickly. That's why all this 'hidden tracking' nonsense is just that.
walpurgis
24-06-2021, 17:16
Not had any significant after effects from the second Astra/Zeneca jab I had this morning, just feel very slightly not quite right. The first one made me start feeling pretty rough within three hours.
Well, have you ever been 'fully right'?:D;)
Marco.
walpurgis
24-06-2021, 17:27
Well, have you ever been 'fully right'?:D;)
Marco.
I've been very wrong a few times. :D
Dat's wot I thought:eyebrows:
Marco.
They are specifically placed not to move and are not part of another liquid. Any chip hidden in a vaccine would be removed by the body quite quickly. That's why all this 'hidden tracking' nonsense is just that.
Exactly! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(animal)
I simply do not understand why, what I would adjudge to be intelligent people believe in this 'conspiracy theory' nonsense. :scratch:
Pigmy Pony
24-06-2021, 21:28
Ha - well, I'll be doing the same as I've done for the last 50-odd years, whilst enjoying near-perfect health, and having hee-haw jabs of hee-haw!:D
Marco.
It's a pretty safe bet that your next 50-odd years won't be nearly as healthy, and at some point you may have to overcome your needle phobia and succumb to flu jabs and tetanus shots :ner:
Pigmy Pony
24-06-2021, 21:36
Yeah, you're crediting them with WAY too much common sense!:D
Plus, good luck with socially distancing all the folk in the relevant queues:lol:
Marco.
Considering how many Brits are now vaccinated, they must be doing something right - how do our stats compare to the "We're-too-impatient-to-queue" Italians? Neither me nor Mrs. P have had any problems with queues, but no operation of that scale will run completely problem free. I'd give 'em credit for getting it more right than most countries :)
It's a pretty safe bet that your next 50-odd years won't be nearly as healthy, and at some point you may have to overcome your needle phobia and succumb to flu jabs and tetanus shots :ner:
Lol, in terms of the first part, possibly, but by then I'll be too old to care!:D
I don't have a needle phobia; I simply have an aversion to putting anything into my body that I don't think is necessary and don't know *exactly* what it is. Heck, I mostly suffer a headache (on the odd occasion I get one), than take Paracetamol.
I'm just not a drugs/tablets/jabs kinda guy - generally (if possible) I prefer just to let nature take its course, and which so far has served me well:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
24-06-2021, 21:45
The don't put them in the dog's bloodstream though,
And it would have to be a fairly thick needle.
Pigmy Pony
24-06-2021, 21:54
I simply have an aversion to putting anything into my body[/B] that I don't think is necessary and don't know *exactly* what it is. Heck, I mostly suffer a headache (on the odd occasion I get one), than take Paracetamol.
I'm just not a drugs/tablets/jabs kinda guy - generally (if possible) I prefer just to let nature take its course, and which so far has served me well:)
Marco.
That's not what you were saying last night :eyebrows:
Considering how many Brits are now vaccinated, they must be doing something right - how do our stats compare to the "We're-too-impatient-to-queue" Italians? Neither me nor Mrs. P have had any problems with queues, but no operation of that scale will run completely problem free. I'd give 'em credit for getting it more right than most countries :)
Oh sure, but you don't know if (or for how long) they had to queue to get their jab, simply that they've been jabbed.
I'm not saying that the process should be 'problem free', which given the scale of the job concerned would be unrealistic, but I think they should have put more thought into where folks were sent to be vaccinated, in terms of making it as easy and convenient for them as possible.
Being sent 20 miles away, as Grant stated earlier, is utterly ridiculous (and I'm sure there are plenty more instances of such that have occurred elsewhere in the country), or even circumstances where you have to walk for miles, or get umpteen buses to reach vaccination points, if you don't drive.
With a bit more thought and better organisation, none of that would be necessary outwith of the most remote locations.
Marco.
That's not what you were saying last night :eyebrows:
Haha, I'm trying to remember what I said last night!:D
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
24-06-2021, 22:28
Oh sure, but you don't know if (or for how long) they had to queue to get their jab, simply that they've been jabbed.
I'm not saying that the process should be 'problem free', which given the scale of the job would be unrealistic, but I think they should have put more thought into where folks were sent to be vaccinated, in terms of making it as easy and convenient for them as possible.
Being sent 20 miles away, as Grant stated earlier, is utterly ridiculous (and I'm sure there are plenty more instances of such that have occurred elsewhere in the country), or even circumstances where you have to walk for miles, or get umpteen buses to reach vaccination points, if you don't drive.
With a bit more thought and better organisation, none of that would be necessary outwith of the most remote locations.
Marco.
Yes that is a terrible lack of organisation, I'll give you that, and the way Grant has been treated (or not) is deplorable. Perhaps wee Nicola can be thanked for some of that. But I can only speak of what I have personally experienced, and of the many people I know who have had both jabs I have heard exactly ZERO complaints about queues. In fact the only comment on this 'problem' I've heard has come from yourself, and you haven't even been for one :D
But even if I'd had to queue I would have as I see it as quite important, whereas I did once leave a restaurant after waiting half an hour for my meal, so I'm not the most patient person
That's fine, from your point of view. Obviously, as I'm anti-having any of these particular vaccines, I wouldn't consider queuing up to have them as important, more like steering well clear!;)
I can't dispute your experiences, in terms of queues, but I've dropped off a few friends at local vaccination points (some not so local) who don't have cars or simply don't drive, and noticed pretty long queues at centres that were supposed to facilitate *strictly timed* appointments, so that forms my experience of the matter, as well as having spoken with others who've experienced the same.
In that respect, therefore, it would be interesting to conduct a poll of people from all around the UK, in reference to queues outside of vax centres, where they weren't simply doing drop-ins, and how far they had to travel to get there, in order to assess what the consensus of opinion was:)
Marco.
If queues were common issue then it would be all over the media. I don't know a single person who has had to wait any considerable length of time, everyone I know has said they were in and out in a few minutes, and has commented on how efficient it's all been.
I remember queuing for an hour and a half to see 'Star Wars' but people are going to complain about queuing for a couple of minutes to get a life-saving vaccine? That makes sense.
Pigmy Pony
25-06-2021, 06:17
That's fine, from your point of view. Obviously, as I'm anti-having any of these particular vaccines, I wouldn't consider queuing up to have them as important, more like steering well clear!;)
I can't dispute your experiences, in terms of queues, but I've dropped off a few friends at local vaccination points (some not so local) who don't have cars or simply don't drive, and noticed pretty long queues at centres that were supposed to facilitate *strictly timed* appointments, so that forms my experience of the matter, as well as having spoken with others who've experienced the same.
In that respect, therefore, it would be interesting to conduct a poll of people from all around the UK, in reference to queues outside of vax centres, where they weren't simply doing drop-ins, and how far they had to travel to get there, in order to assess what the consensus of opinion was:)
Marco.
I agree, anecdotal 'evidence' won't necessarily be accurate. A poll is needed for that. Be interesting to see if there are regional variations (it appears from some posts that Wales and Scotland have shaped up less well). Then we can name and shame the bad 'uns and give the good 'uns a pat on the back.
It does occur to me that maybe the appointments are timed a bit tight, as the organisers would rather risk possible queues than have potential slack periods. I still maintain though that our vaccination rates are pretty damn good and at the end of the day that's what we need.
Bksabath
25-06-2021, 06:27
Correction about Ivermectin
I have just seen this
Best ivermectin meta analysis - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk)
Ivermectin cost $2.90 for 100 12 mg tablets
following what was done in Mexico, 4 tablets given to any one having a Fauci virus test , you can look at the curves there, 25 people can be treated for for $2.90
The paper was published on the 17th June
It is a meta study and it is peer reviewed
Bottom line it would indicate that it reduces death by 62% and reduce transmission by 86%
Reduce transmission by 86% would mean that the Ro number go below 1 and the Fauci virus is defeated
I agree, anecdotal 'evidence' won't necessarily be accurate. A poll is needed for that. Be interesting to see if there are regional variations (it appears from some posts that Wales and Scotland have shaped up less well). Then we can name and shame the bad 'uns and give the good 'uns a pat on the back.
It does occur to me that maybe the appointments are timed a bit tight, as the organisers would rather risk possible queues than have potential slack periods. I still maintain though that our vaccination rates are pretty damn good and at the end of the day that's what we need.
Yup, indeed:)
Marco.
If queues were common issue then it would be all over the media. I don't know a single person who has had to wait any considerable length of time, everyone I know has said they were in and out in a few minutes, and has commented on how efficient it's all been.
I'm sure that's true, but look how far you've had to go to get yours. What if you had been infirm or otherwise unable to make that journey? As far as I'm concerned, if you don't drive and either have to walk miles and/or take umpteen buses to get to vaccination centres, it's not been properly organised.
Marco.
I'm sure that's true, but look how far you've had to go to get yours. What if you had been infirm or otherwise unable to make that journey? As far as I'm concerned, if you don't drive and either have to walk miles and/or take umpteen buses to get to vaccination centres, it's not been properly organised.
Marco.
I don't know what the arrangements are for the infirm but I assume there must be some and that they must work, since if that wasn't the case the media would be full of stories about old grannies who can't get the jab and so on. Especially given how desperate the lefties are these days that they will seize on the slightest thing they can to attack the government with.
think they vary across the nations. many were done by doctors and nurses either in the practice of in home. but like all these 'general' arrangements , they dont fit all, and many scenarios were not thought of initially. then you have the fact that many of the companies that do the appointments like ours were not nhs but private companies. Its not always a good mix.
prestonchipfryer
25-06-2021, 08:24
How many people vaccinated now? 70 million or doses rather suggests that the rollout has been very well organised.
Certainly here, in sunny Weymouth, it has been well organised with volunteers helping the doctors and nurses at two vaccination centres, at the local hospital and at the Pavilion Theatre.
No queues as there are 10-minute slots, with an average of 25 people per slot, and invites are by text message.
Of course reports of people queuing (exaggerated as they always are) for hours is not good, but on balance I think the NHS has done very well.
I've had both Covid-19 jabs. I've also had a pneumonia vaccine as well, which in terms of side affects, was far worse than anything from the Covid vaccine I received (Astra Zeneca), which left me with an upset digestive system. However, as I've had an 'Ivor Lewis' for oesophageal cancer and previously a Hartmanns for a perforated bowel, with a colostomy (reversed at 18 months), this was no surprise for me at all.
I'm surprised that those who enjoy good health would refuse the vaccine as it's an obvious benefit for all.
I consider these little life-saving ''pricks'' as essential for us all to get back to some form of normality.
Take care all. :)
better a little prick now, than a big prick later :D
prestonchipfryer
25-06-2021, 08:35
better a little prick now, than a big prick later :D
Those are generally in the buttocks area and are very uncomfortable :lol:
I have been very impressed with the organisation of vaccinations around here - one thing in particular, which was very heartwarming, were the number of people willing to volunteer and give up their free time to help the process run smoothly.
Bksabath
26-06-2021, 05:20
Ivermectin to be investigated as a possible treatment for COVID-19 in Oxford’s PRINCIPLE trial | University of Oxford (https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial)
There you go
Quote:Ivermectin is a safe, broad spectrum antiparasitic drug which is in wide use globally to treat parasitic infections.With known antiviral properties, ivermectin has been shown to reduce SARS-CoV-2 replication in laboratory studies. Small pilot studies show that early administration with ivermectin can reduce viral load and the duration of symptoms in some patients with mild COVID-19. Even though ivermectin is used routinely in some countries to treat COVID-19, there is little evidence from large-scale randomised controlled trials to demonstrate that it can speed up recovery from the illness or reduce hospital admission.
I am not sure that it will show results for the reduced viral load and transmission rates, from what I have seen this is around 86%
Anyway This is going to be a game changer!
better a little prick now, than a big prick later :D
I've always been (or was it had?:hmm) a big prick:D
Marco.
I have been very impressed with the organisation of vaccinations around here - one thing in particular, which was very heartwarming, were the number of people willing to volunteer and give up their free time to help the process run smoothly.
You have a PM, Guy!:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
26-06-2021, 06:51
Ivermectin to be investigated as a possible treatment for COVID-19 in Oxford’s PRINCIPLE trial | University of Oxford (https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial)
There you go
Quote:Ivermectin is a safe, broad spectrum antiparasitic drug which is in wide use globally to treat parasitic infections.With known antiviral properties, ivermectin has been shown to reduce SARS-CoV-2 replication in laboratory studies. Small pilot studies show that early administration with ivermectin can reduce viral load and the duration of symptoms in some patients with mild COVID-19. Even though ivermectin is used routinely in some countries to treat COVID-19, there is little evidence from large-scale randomised controlled trials to demonstrate that it can speed up recovery from the illness or reduce hospital admission.
I am not sure that it will show results for the reduced viral load and transmission rates, from what I have seen this is around 86%
Anyway This is going to be a game changer!
Hope you're right Sandro, but the above statement doesn't shout 'game changer' to me.
Stryder5
26-06-2021, 08:30
Hope you're right Sandro, but the above statement doesn't shout 'game changer' to me.
Much like a vaccine that doesn’t stop you getting the virus, doesn’t stop you passing the virus on, may reduce viral load and duration of symptoms.
Doesn’t sound like a game changer to me......now manipulated statistics ...total game changer
Gary
Morning Marco - reply sent :)
This is game-changer, though (received from a friend) - in a VERY bad way: https://www.bitchute.com/video/i4HOvNFZlfIe/
EVERYONE **MUST** WATCH THIS!!
I would also appreciate some feedback - thanks.
Marco.
I'm now officially all jabbed up. I remembered to take a photo of the queue for Marco. I mean look at this, it's ridiculous:
https://i.ibb.co/r0Vm995/queue.jpg (https://ibb.co/kBtxZZq)
image ru (https://imgbb.com/)
This is game-changer, though (received from a friend) - in a VERY bad way: https://www.bitchute.com/video/i4HOvNFZlfIe/
EVERYONE **MUST** WATCH THIS!!
I would also appreciate some feedback - thanks.
Marco.
he's a nutter with far too much time on his hands.
Lol - everyone's a nutter who's opinion doesn't fit with yours!:ner:;)
So you're disputing the validity of everything he said - did you actually watch the video?
Marco.
watched the first five minutes then skipped through the rest. You can tell he's a nutter in the first 60 seconds. They should have nicked him for wasting police time.
prestonchipfryer
26-06-2021, 11:59
Talking a load of absolute bollocks.
I'm now officially all jabbed up. I remembered to take a photo of the queue for Marco. I mean look at this, it's ridiculous:
https://i.ibb.co/r0Vm995/queue.jpg (https://ibb.co/kBtxZZq)
image ru (https://imgbb.com/)
Lol - no wonder, it's at the back of bloody beyond!:ner::D;)
Show me a pic of the one that the majority of folk from Stoke are being sent to, which surely must be somewhere near the town centre?
This was taken in Feb (largely because of idiots arriving early): https://www.wrexham.com/news/dont-arrive-early-for-vaccination-booking-to-help-avoid-queues-outside-centres-says-health-minister-200071.html
That's my local surgery, btw, and queues went all the way round the back of the building. And I've seen loads of stuff like that around here recently, and much longer queues!
Marco.
watched the first five minutes then skipped through the rest. You can tell he's a nutter in the first 60 seconds. They should have nicked him for wasting police time.
Exactly how - are you a trained psychiatrist?
That's just meaningless rhetoric. I think Boris Johnson's a nutter. Anyone can call someone a nutter without any proper proof. Therefore, your claims of him being a nutter are no more substantiated than mine, in reference to blowjob-boy.
Show me some evidence, based on what you consider as the truth (backed up by links), which categorically refutes what the ex-police officer has said.
Btw, I'm not saying you're wrong. Just asking you to put some 'meat on the bone', on your arguments, as you often tell others to do:)
Marco.
It's not the back of beyond, it's literally a minute's drive from the city centre. I was in and out in under 5 minutes.
That's just rhetoric, though. I think Boris Johnson's a nutter. Anyone can call someone a nutter. Show me, some evidence, based on what you consider as the truth, which categorically refutes what the ex-police officer has said.
Btw, I'm not saying you're wrong. Just asking you to put some 'meat on the bone', on your arguments, as you often tell others to do:)
Marco.
There's a certain type of person, I've dealt with them hundreds of times, you can tell if they're one as soon as they open their mouths and start talking.
Think of 'Lister' from Vic Reeve's Big Night Out. Everyone knows one. Take themselves incredibly seriously and have absolutely no idea how the world actually works.
The best thing to do with them is humour them and get rid of them as quickly as you can, which is what the copper in the video does.
You still haven't provided any evidence that refutes his claims, simply 'froth', so until you do, your counter argument, save the amateur psychology, amounts to zilch.
Marco.
It's not the back of beyond, it's literally a minute's drive from the city centre. I was in and out in under 5 minutes.
Well you must've got there on a quiet day!:D;)
Seriously though, that's not what's been happening round here, as shown in the link I posted.
Marco.
You still haven't provided any evidence that refutes his claims, simply 'froth', so until you do, your counter argument, save the amateur psychology, amounts to zilch.
Marco.
I would only be repeating what I've said in this thread previously. No-one disputes that it is possible to have side-effects from the vaccines. The odds of those side effects being fatal are orders of magnitude less than the odds of catching the virus and dying. His spiel about the PCR tests being 'contaminated' is just idiocy.
Do you really think that if there was any issue along the lines of what he is saying that every qualified medical person in the UK would not be taking this issue up? Instead they are all having the vaccine. If you don't believe me, and that's fair enough, go and ask some doctors, ask your GP, see what they say.
I didn't say that I didn't believe you; I simply asked you to publish proof that refutes his claims, which you still haven't done.
I'm not entirely unsympathetic to your views, btw, and indeed in some ways agree (especially in relation to his claims about PCR tests), but I still believe that there are many side effects with these vaccines that are real, but haven't been properly reported, especially in relation to female fertility, and which will surface in due course.
Marco.
I didn't say that I didn't believe you; I simply asked you to publish proof that refutes his claims, which you still haven't done.
I'm not entirely unsympathetic to your views, btw, and indeed in some ways agree (especially in relation to his claims about PCR tests), but I still believe that there are many side-effects with these vaccines that are real and haven't been properly reported, especially in relation to female fertility, but which will surface in due course.
Marco.
Well if they do surface then you'll be right and I'll say so. Seriously though, have you spoken to your vet and asked his advice about whether you should have the vaccine or not?
I have a couple of cousins who are doctors, one is a senior consultant, can't recall what the other is. I can guarantee you that if they thought there was anything dodgy about the vaccines or the tests they would have been on to the whole family right away. Instead they made sure their mothers were vaccinated right from the off.
Vet? Lol... Erm, no. It would be rather like asking Gennaro Contaldo [a renowned Italian chef] if he thinks I should put fresh parmesan, or grated stuff out of a tub, on my pasta - i.e. the answer would be a forgone conclusion.
My point being that the answer to that question would for any real foodie be as predictable as asking a doctor whether I should have a vaccine for Covid!
Doesn't mean though that his advice would be correct for ME. I'm sure he'd also recommend having a flu jab, despite the fact that I've not had flu for about 10 years, or even so much as a cold for the last 5 years.
Remember that Del got Covid, and despite me living with her 24/7 during lockdown, including us both sleeping closely together and breathing in the same air at night in bed, I got hee-haw.
Plus I've been out and about 100s of times during the last 18 months, in or out of lockdown, either shopping, to church or many other places, cinemas, pubs and restaurants, not just in Wrexham, but York, Leeds, Liverpool, Chester and elsewhere, mixing with friends and family (of course only when allowed), and still caught hee-haw.
I guess I'm just a catchy hee-haw kinda guy!:lol:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
26-06-2021, 13:47
Well you must've got there on a quiet day!:D;)
Seriously though, that's not what's been happening round here, as shown in the link I posted.
Marco.
You said that was your local surgery, and it has been stated before by myself and others that local surgeries cannot accommodate large numbers, and so are not fit for purpose. The picture you posted supports that argument.
I don' think I've even had a cold in the last ten years but that's no guarantee of anything. People a lot younger than me and no doubt in much better physical condition have caught it and died. Plus if I've got to go and see my mother and other elderly relatives I want to make sure the risk of passing anything on to them is minimised. That was my main motivator in having it.
Otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered. Not because I think there's any real risk from the vaccine but just because I'm a fatalist - and bone idle.
You said that was your local surgery, and it has been stated before by myself and others that local surgeries cannot accommodate large numbers, and so are not fit for purpose. The picture you posted supports that argument.
Plus it does say in the article that the reason there's a queue is because they're all turning up half an hour early. Look at the pic, they're all oldies. It's a day out for them, they couldn't wait to get going.
Pigmy Pony
26-06-2021, 14:03
Plus it does say in the article that the reason there's a queue is because they're all turning up half an hour early. Look at the pic, they're all oldies. It's a day out for them, they couldn't wait to get going.
Post Offices used to look like that on Pension Day.
On every day round here. There used to be a million things an old person could do in a post office. Always had to queue for ages to cash my Giro.
I don' think I've even had a cold in the last ten years but that's no guarantee of anything. People a lot younger than me and no doubt in much better physical condition have caught it and died. Plus if I've got to go and see my mother and other elderly relatives I want to make sure the risk of passing anything on to them is minimised. That was my main motivator in having it.
Otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered. Not because I think there's any real risk from the vaccine but just because I'm a fatalist - and bone idle.
That's all fair enough. I was simply making a point based on the question you posed.
I of course have other valid (to me) reasons for not being jabbed, despite seeing my dad (who's 88) almost every day. Do you think I'd do that if I had any real concerns?
He's also someone who rarely gets colds (don't think I've ever seen him with flu), and who even at his age takes almost no pills for anything. My granddad (who lived until he was 92) was the same. It's just good genes mate, originating from a healthy diet and lifestyle, and with it a naturally strong and healthy immune system:)
Marco.
Plus it does say in the article that the reason there's a queue is because they're all turning up half an hour early. Look at the pic, they're all oldies. It's a day out for them, they couldn't wait to get going.
I did highlight the coming early bit, and that's been the problem, certainly around here. Plus when dropping off friends at local vax centres (as stated earlier), the age demographic was considerably younger than shown in the link, as the friends in question were in their 40s, and so the appointments were for all those the same age..
Didn't stop long queues sometimes forming outside, though!
Marco.
You said that was your local surgery, and it has been stated before by myself and others that local surgeries cannot accommodate large numbers, and so are not fit for purpose. The picture you posted supports that argument.
Indeed, but that's not what's currently being discussed. I'm talking about problems with queues forming because folks are turning up early, or for whatever other reason, and that picture also supports my argument. The surgery in question, btw, is very large and indeed one of the biggest in Wrexham, with many thousands of patients on their books.
In any case, surgeries might have fitted the purpose if folks had turned up when they should've done!;)
Marco.
I of course have other valid (to me) reasons for not being jabbed, despite seeing my dad (who's 88) almost every day. Do you think I'd do that if I had any real concerns?
.
No of course not but I came to the conclusion that there are real concerns, so I had it. Of course I might be completely wrong but do I gamble on that? I decided not to.
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 14:28
This is game-changer, though (received from a friend) - in a VERY bad way: https://www.bitchute.com/video/i4HOvNFZlfIe/
EVERYONE **MUST** WATCH THIS!!
I would also appreciate some feedback - thanks.
Marco.
I watched half of it but then stopped. I understand what he says, but there are dozens of products which contain harmful substances to humans which are readily available. To name a few...
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Caffeine
Ibuprofen
Paracetamol
There's no obligation to buy any of the above, but people do and happily consume them knowing that there's the potential of damage.
The vaccine isn't obligatory so if people don't want it, they don't have to have it. But, and this is a critical element, ALL vaccines contain substances harmful to humans - they contain the virus or disease that they intend to prevent.
He washes away a significant amount of credibility when he states that it's a terrorist attack. Nonsense in my opinion. Rushed research or mix error at worst. Also, whilst he has a couple of letters to his armoury, he quotes no strong scientific or medical evidence that the quantities involved are actually potentially damaging, just suppositions that they may be.
To me it sounds like a case of someone who's retired (or getting that way), has a huge amount of time on his hands and is looking to be a hero. If he's so concerned with human life then he could look at far better options to help 'life' given his position of authority.
But the police really don't have interest in that as it's way too much like hard work. They'd rather do easy target work like standing in hedges with speed cameras trying to catch those going 3mph over the speed limit. Easy money.
If he was a scientist or medical professional with a proven background, then I'd be much more likely to believe that what he says is of a genuine concern.
My opinion of course. I may be wrong. I'm not going to have the vaccine anyway. :D
No of course not but I came to the conclusion that there are real concerns, so I had it. Of course I might be completely wrong but do I gamble on that? I decided not to.
Sure, and most folks wouldn't.
I just figured that since my dad hadn't caught the virus before he was vaccinated (and now since), despite for many months beforehand getting out and about like me (going shopping, to church, etc - and no he's not a fan of home grocery deliveries and wasn't hiding away like a lot of old folks), and with me not getting Covid, the benefits of being able to look after him and seeing each other regularly, so that he wasn't isolated or lonely, for us outweighed the risks.
It's something we thought long and hard about, and now certainly don't regret:)
Marco.
I watched half of it but then stopped. I understand what he says, but there are dozens of products which contain harmful substances to humans which are readily available. To name a few...
Alcohol
Cigarettes
Caffeine
Ibuprofen
Paracetamol
There's no obligation to buy any of the above, but people do and happily consume them knowing that there's the potential of damage.
The vaccine isn't obligatory so if people don't want it, they don't have to have it. But, and this is a critical element, ALL vaccines contain substances harmful to humans - they contain the virus or disease that they intend to prevent.
He washes away a significant amount of credibility when he states that it's a terrorist attack. Nonsense in my opinion. Rushed research or mix error at worst. Also, whilst he has a couple of letters to his armoury, he quotes no strong scientific or medical evidence that the quantities involved are actually potentially damaging, just suppositions that they may be.
To me it sounds like a case of someone who's retired (or getting that way), has a huge amount of time on his hands and is looking to be a hero. If he's so concerned with human life then he could look at far better options to help 'life' given his position of authority.
But the police really don't have interest in that as it's way too much like hard work. They'd rather do easy target work like standing in hedges with speed cameras trying to catch those going 3mph over the speed limit. Easy money.
If he was a scientist or medical professional with a proven background, then I'd be much more likely to believe that what he says is of a genuine concern.
My opinion of course. I may be wrong. I'm not going to have the vaccine anyway. :D
Thanks for your thoughts, mate. We're largely on the same page. I just thought I'd put the video 'out there', as I often do with these things, for folks to make up their own minds:)
Marco.
hifi_dave
26-06-2021, 16:13
I've been told on several occasions by Doctors and Consultants that all 'medicines' are poisons. This is why we get side effects. Even the humble Paracetamol and Aspirin have unwanted side effects and can be very dangerous.
You get owt for nowt.
I've been told on several occasions by Doctors and Consultants that all 'medicines' are poisons. This is why we get side effects. Even the humble Paracetamol and Aspirin have unwanted side effects and can be very dangerous.
You get owt for nowt.
Indeed, which is why I'll often suffer very bad headaches (verging on migraines), on the rare occasions I get them, rather than take any paracetamol.
I'm just not a 'pill popper', and hate filling my body full of chemicals, or anything that's not designed to be there, which includes these new Covid vaccines, and which I don't believe are quite as safe as they're purported to be.
Marco.
Anyway, I see that Hatt Wankcock has resigned over snogging his slapper assistant!:lol:
He was a balloon, anyway, so good riddance to bad rubbish... CHEERIO NOW! I'll gladly frame your P45..:wave::upyours::upyours::finger:
BJ-boy will be next, but this time as a result of sheer incompetence, when his performance throughout this pandemic has been properly analysed!!:trust:
And I'll laugh my tits off when it happens...
Marco.
Both were married with kids too; feel for their families more than them. The really were stupid to think that any video evidence in a building like that would not get used for someone elses profit. Right under a camera:doh:
The Cabinet is still full of "nodding dogs", that are either despicable, corrupt, or just plain ineffective, pathetic and useless: Priti Patel; Dominic Raab; Gavin Williamson; Robert Jenrick, ............ .
The Cabinet is still full of "nodding dogs", that are either despicable, corrupt, or just plain ineffective, pathetic and useless: Priti Patel; Dominic Raab; Gavin Williamson; Robert Jenrick, ............ .
thats the case with pretty much any govt tho. the guy at top wants folk who do what he wants, and doesnt outshine him. in boris's case that naturally sets the bar pretty low.;)
corrupt and polititian kinda has been hand in hand for ever and a day.
thats the case with pretty much any govt tho. the guy at top wants folk who do what he wants, and doesnt outshine him. in boris's case that naturally sets the bar pretty low.;)
corrupt and polititian kinda has been hand in hand for ever and a day.
Yep, it's definitely a new low. And let's not forget the medacious eminance gris that is Rees-Mogg.
WOStantonCS100
27-06-2021, 15:21
Not sure if this is the place for this but just a word...
For anyone in the UK fighting / protesting / marching against forced vaccinations, vaccination passports, forced lockdowns, corrupt politicians and corporate heads anywhere in the world, critical race theory, true racism, censorship, the erosion of freedoms and the spread of Marxism/Communism under the guise of whatever they want to call it today and general free-for-all lawlessness as a ploy to make the populace fearful and hand more power over to oligarchs for a perceived sense of safety, I stand in solidarity with you.
We have our work cut out for us in America.
Yo, Biff, how's it going? Hope you're well and staying safe!:)
Hey, given all that, you're welcome to join my gang anytime, bro... POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :more::more:
And fuck the corrupt system and all those who've created it!:guns: :exactly:
Marco.
WOStantonCS100
27-06-2021, 16:56
Yo, Biff, how's it going? Hope you're well and staying safe!:)
Hey, given all that, you're welcome to join my gang anytime, bro... POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :more::more:
And fuck the corrupt system and all those who've created it!:guns: :exactly:
Marco.
Hey Marco,
It's been a wild ride... Power to the people, indeed!
We just moved into an old Victorian/Craftsman of 1908? / 1910? vintage further out in the country. Still unpacking. I hope to post system / listening room updates and some cool spins I've come across, soon.
Cheers!
edwardian then most likely.:)
Bksabath
27-06-2021, 18:15
Not sure if this is the place for this but just a word...
and the spread of Marxism
We have our work cut out for us in America.
That Just one word to many Poor Carl got nothing to do whit it ...
:D
Hey Marco,
It's been a wild ride... Power to the people, indeed!
We just moved into an old Victorian/Craftsman of 1908? / 1910? vintage further out in the country. Still unpacking. I hope to post system / listening room updates and some cool spins I've come across, soon.
Cheers!
thread drift:
I was watching a program on TV a few days ago where the owner, American, described his house as "Victorian" - it really surprised me that British royalty was referenced in the USA for architectural periods. Is that normal?
Extraordinary events tonight!
Sajid Javid is back! Recall how he got inexplicably sacked as Chancellor. I thought he was a safe pair of hands.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57627708
Weak excuse to sack Matt Hancock IMO. Snogged his Secretary. Thus breaking Covid-19 rules. :eek:
Anyway, all Happy Days again. The 1922 committee continues to Rule the UK. Any blame for 50,000 needless care home deaths goes out of the window with Matt. :lol:
WOStantonCS100
27-06-2021, 22:43
thread drift:
I was watching a program on TV a few days ago where the owner, American, described his house as "Victorian" - it really surprised me that British royalty was referenced in the USA for architectural periods. Is that normal?
Considering how America came to be, I don't find that surprising at all. I would think it right to give credit where credit is due if the influences are strong or a direct copy in any particular field. History is history. :)
Considering that America had been independent of the British monarchy for about a hundred years by the time of Victoria, if not strange surely slow off the mark :)
1776 to 1837 - 61 years. :)
WOStantonCS100
28-06-2021, 19:38
Considering that America had been independent of the British monarchy for about a hundred years by the time of Victoria, if not strange surely slow off the mark :)
Won't argue with that.
I mean, honestly, we drove the Cadillac "Sedan de Ville" for decades thinking we were all that... What's in a name? Colonial, Federal, Victorian, Greek Revival, blah, blah, blah... LOL. All I know is that I am very fond of the architectural details of my new to me dwelling. Yes, indeed.
Bksabath
29-06-2021, 06:18
Why inexplicably?
Better that than ben fired for being Flipping Useless, and being a cheat is quite normal for the current bunch
Besides the "Leaked" my arse video, Did you notice the step to the left that places him bang on the centre of the frame
Hey Marco,
It's been a wild ride... Power to the people, indeed!
We just moved into an old Victorian/Craftsman of 1908? / 1910? vintage further out in the country. Still unpacking. I hope to post system / listening room updates and some cool spins I've come across, soon.
Cheers!
Nice one, dude. Great to see you checking in again and look forward to seeing those pics, including ones of your house, which sounds right up my street!:cool:
Marco.
Bksabath
01-07-2021, 06:14
There you go
I would like to see Fauci sent to the Hague because ...
JUST IN: Jim Jordan says he can prove Fauci LIED - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3F2ZJGipiE)
CABINET AGREES IT'S TIME TO 'LIVE WITH COVID' [and about fucking time].
See here: https://mailchi.mp/bigbrotherwatch/6495674?e=9509ffdbfa
:yay::yay::yay: POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! :more::more::more:
Well done to Silki and all at BIG BROTHER WATCH for keeping these fascist cunts in check! :clap::clap::clap:
Marco.
I don't think we are "Home and Dry" with this wretched virus. All Happy Days after July 19th. possibly. But, I am always skeptical.
The Scientific advice is we might still need facemasks even after our two jabs. Interestingly, we might now nip down the Chemist shop and buy better ones.
Those cheap blue ones don't do as much as Medical Grade ones.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57703959
The Money Boys truly don't care if I live or Die. But I do. :eek:
case levels here are highest they have ever been. my grandson has succumbed to catching it alas so their holiday is now off.
case levels here are highest they have ever been. my grandson has succumbed to catching it alas so their holiday is now off.
How is it affecting him? fairly mild I hope
How is it affecting him? fairly mild I hope
cheers guy, he doesnt have any symptoms at all. his weekly school tests didnt pick it up, it was a full holiday test they did. rest were ok but he was pos. they then did nhs ones and same. daughter then tried another of the quick home ones and it returned neg again suggesting they dont work. why tho? well that is open to conjecture i suppose.. anyway the 4 of them have to isolate.
he has been going to a football session all week as his tests at home said he was ok.. now everyone there will likely have to too, and everyone they meet etc. the home tests are obviously no use if the give false neg... thats the worst scenario
walpurgis
03-07-2021, 17:39
Good that he's not feeling rough Grant. I felt pretty ghastly when I had it.
Good that he's not feeling rough Grant. I felt pretty ghastly when I had it.
yeah he's 13 so young and fit. i wonder tho if the tests at home for kids are made not to go off unless your wreaking with it;) or out od date
Yeah mate, sorry to hear that, hope he gets over it soon:)
Marco.
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/mask-wearing-social-distancing-end-230130155.html
:yay::yay::yay::mex::mex::yay::yay::yay:
I'll be making a special bonfire to burn every one of the fuckers I have!!!
:exactly:
Marco.
How many have you got? I did have two but I lost one of them. 2 quids worth, fucked if I was spending more than that. In fact I resent having to spend that.
I'm also fed up with them, although I only have to wear it for the two minutes or so that I'm in the shop it's still a utterly pointless pain in the arse.
walpurgis
04-07-2021, 11:37
I have visions of small businesses who geared up to churn out millions of face-masks suddenly going broke.
apparently 200 billion a month of masks and gloves are used so presumably made too.. its a lot of spare capacity
How many have you got? I did have two but I lost one of them. 2 quids worth, fucked if I was spending more than that. In fact I resent having to spend that.
I'm also fed up with them, although I only have to wear it for the two minutes or so that I'm in the shop it's still a utterly pointless pain in the arse.
Lol - one 'proper' one, which complies to the necessary standards (remember the one I linked to and you said you wouldn't dream of paying for?:D), and packets of the cheapo disposable ones, as you're not supposed to wear them multiple times.
So I'll be keeping the expensive one for posterity, 'in memory' of the nightmare we've had to endure for almost the last 2 years(!) then gleefully watching the rest BURN IN HELL;)
Marco.
Lol - one 'proper' one, which complies to the necessary standards (remember the one I linked to and you said you wouldn't dream of paying for?:D), and packets of the cheapo disposable ones, as you're not supposed to wear them multiple times.
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you're not supposed to use them after washing them multiple times but I'm okay since I've not even washed it once. Not that it matters, the only reason I wear one in the shop is because they insist on complying with the law. If they weren't bothered I wouldn't be either.
Yeah, sure.. We've got them all over the place here, as Del gets them from work, and are in the car and all sorts, so they'll all be getting rounded up and royally roasted!
Just looking forward to finally getting life back to normal!:cool:
Marco.
I have visions of small businesses who geared up to churn out millions of face-masks suddenly going broke.
Oh don't worry, the painfully shy 'woke brigade', who like to hide from folk or 'keep their face warm', and the ridiculously overcautious, will still want to wear the bloody things!:doh:
Marco.
walpurgis
04-07-2021, 13:14
Oh don't worry, the painfully shy 'woke brigade', who like to hide from folk or 'keep their face warm', and the ridiculously overcautious, will still want to wear the bloody things!:doh:
Marco.
I may carry on wearing one when in shopping centres just to annoy the CCTV operators with their face recognition gubbins. :)
im still working on being able to wear one:eek: nickola will keep them here im sure.. she likes them;)
I may carry on wearing one when in shopping centres just to annoy the CCTV operators with their face recognition gubbins. :)
indeed i intend doing that:D
Aye, I've heard she likes to moan like a bitch with one on, whilst her back end's being pumped with a big caber!!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Aye, I've heard she likes to moan like a bitch with one on, whilst her back end's being pumped with a big caber!!:eyebrows:
Marco.
and nobody knows who she is:D
Aye, kinky fucks these politicians!:eyebrows:
Marco.
I may carry on wearing one when in shopping centres just to annoy the CCTV operators with their face recognition gubbins. :)
I have been wondering about these T shirts - perhaps in combination with a face mask?
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/facial-recognition-t-shirt-block
Similar to the 'Hood Maker' by Philip K. Dick - a hood that blocks telepaths from reading the wearer's mind.
I recently saw someone wearing a mask printed with a photograph of his own face. It was very effective; from a distance of a couple of metres it looked like he wasn't wearing a mask at all. :)
My partner made me two masks, which I only wear when in a shop. As soon as I can I remove it, as my glasses steam up and my nose start to run. For that reason I avoid shopping malls when you have to wear one all the time, as well as comply with the 'one way' system.
I've been avoiding shopping malls for most of my life.
walpurgis
04-07-2021, 14:30
I've been avoiding shopping malls for most of my life.
I'm not keen on them either. I suppose they're OK once you're familiar with them or can be bothered to memorise any (ever changing) floorplan they may display, but I don't do much shopping anyway.
I'm not keen on them either. I suppose they're OK once you're familiar with them or can be bothered to memorise any (ever changing) floorplan they may display, but I don't do much shopping anyway.
Years ago I used to go to the mall once a month to buy CDs in HMV, get hi-fi mags from the WH Smith, and there was a big food court with a Burger King so I'd have a burger before heading home. Stopped buying the mags and the HMV closed so that pretty much killed that.
Last time I was in there was about ten years ago to get something or other, went to get a burger and found they'd got rid of the food court too.
We visited EE in the Brent Cross shopping centre, Hendon, to look for a new phone/contract for my partner. They couldn't have been more helpful: she wanted a new phone, but couldn't afford any they had on offer, so they suggested we visit John Lewis located in the same shopping mall and buy a Samsung A12 for £150, come back and they would install the chip and update the contract.
This was in complete contrast to the EE store in Kilburn where they prevaricated and were most unhelpful, more or less causing us to put off for a year now, what the Brent Cross store did in a matter of an hour.
Worth the time suffering wearing a face mask.
For that reason I avoid shopping malls when you have to wear one all the time, as well as comply with the 'one way' system.
I deliberately go round the 'wrong' way, just to be awkward!:D
Marco.
I have done that - but out of ignorance.
Lol... I do it mainly because it's the biggest load of old bollox ever and simply won't entertain it! It's pure unadulterated brainwashing...:doh:
Marco.
I've been avoiding shopping malls for most of my life.
years ago I had to walk through the "Arndale centre" in Luton to get to college for day release, my favourite fantasy was to drive through it in a Chieftain tank
Pigmy Pony
04-07-2021, 21:14
I deliberately go round the 'wrong' way, just to be awkward!:D
Marco.
The other folk will have looked at Del and thought "that carer needs to have more control over him" :rolleyes:
Pigmy Pony
04-07-2021, 21:19
years ago I had to walk through the "Arndale centre" in Luton to get to college for day release, my favourite fantasy was to drive through it in a Chieftain tank
You should have done it while you had the chance - these days Health & Safety would be all over it :(
I think it would be classed as vermin control or public service
The other folk will have looked at Del and thought "that carer needs to have more control over him" :rolleyes:
Hahaha... Cheeky bugger! She does look, erm, a wee bit younger than me:o
Marco.
Now confirmed: https://mailchi.mp/bigbrotherwatch/64956661-6495682?e=9509ffdbfa
:clap::thumbsup:
Marco.
Stryder5
05-07-2021, 21:11
Now confirmed: https://mailchi.mp/bigbrotherwatch/64956661-6495682?e=9509ffdbfa
:clap::thumbsup:
Marco.
The Government are already broadcasting emails..... get your NHS pass now to prevent exclusion.....not the exact words, but it’s what it means!
Gary
Source/link please, Gary, so I can see its relevance:)
Marco.
If it's this, it's not the same thing as the previous 'vaccine passports' that were being proposed: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-pass/
Only of relevance for attending large events (where a Covid pass is being trialled) or travelling abroad, not as was first being suggested for going to shops, pubs, restaurants, etc in the UK.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
06-07-2021, 05:59
Good effort by Big Brother Watch, well done, but I suspect the Govt came to see the Covid passports idea as a vote loser anyway... and with majority of population either vaccinated or previously infected, they probably feel that the NHS can cope with the stragglers. Putting a lot of faith in the jabs, i hope they're right.
Anyway, less than two weeks to 'freedom day', hopefully for good :)
Stryder5
06-07-2021, 08:06
Source/link please, Gary, so I can see its relevance:)
Marco.
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Can't read it, mate. It's too small even when trying to enlarge it. It seems to be an extension of the link I posted earlier. However, the previous posts amply explain the situation. The restrictions in question being attending some large events or travelling abroad.
Thank goodness though I don't have a smartphone to be sent all that cack.
Marco.
Stryder5
06-07-2021, 09:17
Sorry can’t make it any bigger, it was sent to my named email address from NHS.
Gary
dave2010
06-07-2021, 16:27
Good effort by Big Brother Watch, well done, but I suspect the Govt came to see the Covid passports idea as a vote loser anyway... and with majority of population either vaccinated or previously infected, they probably feel that the NHS can cope with the stragglers. Putting a lot of faith in the jabs, i hope they're right.
Anyway, less than two weeks to 'freedom day', hopefully for good :)Maybe look at this Guardian article - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2021/jul/05/chris-whitty-says-keeping-covid-restrictions-will-only-delay-next-wave-video
Apparently delaying relaxation of restrictions would most likely "simply" would have shifted (i.e. delayed) when people become ill or even die. The dates chosen for the currently proposed relaxation have taken into account the likely load on the NHS in the autumn, going into winter.
So if you (selfishly??) postpone dying for a few months in order to save the NHS you're not playing the game!
Realistically, and hopefully, most people will evaluate the ongoing situation and take steps which will minimise their own risks, and risks to others - though as we have noted, there are many who are unable or unwilling to do that.
Bksabath
07-07-2021, 09:22
News Roundup | WHO Eyes ‘Protecting’ Ivermectin from use for COVID-19, Refocus on NTD Programs - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQGYwvSg4CQ)
Vitamin D reduces hospital risk - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W8tWkT2BC0)
I had my 2 jabs still I think there is going to be a loot of further suffering from the Fauci virus in the weeks and months ahead
Be prepared Be Selfish
All they care about is making money
mad-moon
07-07-2021, 10:23
Sorry can’t make it any bigger, it was sent to my named email address from NHS.
Gary
It's a fake email scam ffs....total shite
https://healthunlocked.com/cllsupport/posts/146438303/alert-scam-email-requesting-you-apply-for-a-covid-digital-passport-is-being-received-by-members
mad-moon
07-07-2021, 10:24
Can't read it, mate. It's too small even when trying to enlarge it. It seems to be an extension of the link I posted earlier. However, the previous posts amply explain the situation. The restrictions in question being attending some large events or travelling abroad.
Thank goodness though I don't have a smartphone to be sent all that cack.
Marco.
It's fake Marco...it's an email scam...
https://healthunlocked.com/cllsupport/posts/146438303/alert-scam-email-requesting-you-apply-for-a-covid-digital-passport-is-being-received-by-members
It's fake Marco...it's an email scam...
https://healthunlocked.com/cllsupport/posts/146438303/alert-scam-email-requesting-you-apply-for-a-covid-digital-passport-is-being-received-by-members
Bastards, so many scams at the moment (moved on a bit since "Nigerian prince" with access to millions) :steam:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/15413/production/_119295078_top_european_regions_2021-07-06_16_37_23.png
scottish regions with some of highest rates in europe.
Bastards, so many scams at the moment (moved on a bit since "Nigerian prince" with access to millions) :steam:
Trouble is many of these originate in eastern europe or se asia etc.. Their govts aint bothered. even if they are here the law doesnt do enough to deter.. life in prison might be a start
It's fake Marco...it's an email scam...
https://healthunlocked.com/cllsupport/posts/146438303/alert-scam-email-requesting-you-apply-for-a-covid-digital-passport-is-being-received-by-members
Jeez... I thought that there was something fishy going on:rolleyes:
Now you know one of the reasons why I *hate* fucking smartphones, as it just opens you up further to being bombarded with all sorts of shite and scams like that!!
Marco [will spend the remainder of his life happily NOT owning a smartphone].
scottish regions with some of highest rates in europe.
Yeah, wonder what's causing that?:hmm:
Wales or Ireland aren't on it anywhere, just England and Scotland, in terms of the UK.
Marco..
Yeah, wonder what's causing that?:hmm:
Wales or Ireland aren't on it anywhere, just England and Scotland, in terms of the UK.
Marco..
hard to say.. Our Schools are out so might be an issue; I know thousands caught it and brought it back from london after the england game
Probably a combination of both, which may also apply to the high case rates in England.
Marco.
2.5 people in every thousand have got it. that's hardly a 'high case rate'.
Bastards, so many scams at the moment (moved on a bit since "Nigerian prince" with access to millions) :steam:
I've known a couple of real Nigerian princes. They were deadbeats.
higher than it ever been and thats with most vaccinated.
I've known a couple of real Nigerian princes. They were deadbeats.
i know a welsh princess:eyebrows:
2.5 people in every thousand have got it. that's hardly a 'high case rate'.
Well English areas were deservedly on the chart (North East was second), whilst nowhere in Wales was!:ner:;)
Marco.
i know a welsh princess:eyebrows:
Do I know her?:hmm:
Marco.
Do I know her?:hmm:
Marco.
i believe your aquainted:D
Oh you mean that nice wee girl I go to bed with every night?:eyebrows:
Marco.
she tortured my tootsies until i posted that;)
latest covid hotspots
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/416F/production/_119315761_top_european_regions_2021-07-08-nc.png
Clearly the UK is taking a tremendous "Shot in the Dark" here.
Personally I am still social-distancing, getting my jabs, and upgrading my mask.
The rest of you are "Brown-Bread".
Im still practicing mask wearing.. Also still to get my second jab yet.. Still avoiding folk like plague..Still drinking my whisky collection:D
walpurgis
08-07-2021, 15:14
Well I'm still here. Having had the virus and two jabs since, I expect I'll be OK for now, until some further more resistant mutation comes along, as is likely!.
Clearly the UK is taking a tremendous "Shot in the Dark" here.
Personally I am still social-distancing, getting my jabs, and upgrading my mask.
The rest of you are "Brown-Bread".
Lol - I don't think so, as I've survived (un-vaccinated) until now! But I wish you all the best in your quest.
As soon as it's no longer a requirement in Wales (or England) to wear face coverings, as we're so near here to the English border, I'll be ditching them and only wearing one out of courtesy, if in the company/close proximity of someone, say the owner of a small shop or whatever, who's informed me that they'd feel uncomfortable otherwise.
I may be a non-conformist, free-thinker and protagonist for human rights, but I'm also a courteous big bastard:D
However... LIFE *MUST* RETURN TO NORMAL, ASAP!!
:exactly:
Marco.
Well I'm still here. Having had the virus and two jabs since, I expect I'll be OK for now, until some further more resistant mutation comes along, as is likely!.
From what I've read it's actually more likely to mutate into something relatively harmless. That's what they think happened with the 'Spanish 'Flu'.
Listen, Marco. I wish you tremendous success with your Ostrich-like nose in the ground denial of Reality. :lol:
But even wee Nicola Sturgeon advises caution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0HmDA9qYtg
I am keeping my face mask.
Face masks are pointless, If someone coughs or sneezes near you they will stop nothing and from my end I don't make a habit of coughing and sneezing on people anyway.
I will stop wearing one as soon as it is legal to do so. I'll ask them in the shop if they want me to still wear one if I'm in there but I doubt they are bothered. They can't even be arsed to put up a Perspex screen across the counter like almost everywhere else has done. The old girl just pulls her shawl up over her face when serving.
Listen, Marco. I wish you tremendous success with your Ostrich-like nose in the ground denial of Reality. :lol:
But even wee Nicola Sturgeon advises caution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0HmDA9qYtg
I am keeping my face mask.
As I said, good luck to you. My reality is obviously different from yours, so I'm simply embracing mine. Therefore, don't try and inflict yours onto mine.
In short, you do your thing, and I'll do mine, and I'm sure we'll both be here next year to tell the tale!:cool:
Marco.
P.S Janey Godley is hilarious!:D
Face masks are pointless, If someone coughs or sneezes near you they will stop nothing and from my end I don't make a habit of coughing and sneezing on people anyway.
I will stop wearing one as soon as it is legal to do so. I'll ask them in the shop if they want me to still wear one if I'm in there but I doubt they are bothered. They can't even be arsed to put up a Perspex screen across the counter like almost everywhere else has done. The old girl just pulls her shawl up over her face when serving.
...and apart from those conforming to the necessary British Standard technical spec, largely have been since day one of this pandemic.
As for the rest, we're on the same page, bro:)
Marco.
Bksabath
11-07-2021, 11:04
Mass infection is not an option: Press conference - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYTyi2pFXxk&t=346s)
Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young - The Lancet (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01589-0/fulltext)
Big UK debate - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_DDqsqhrfE)
We Know that the highly expensive Vaccination program live the door open for the virus to mutate in to vaccine resistant strains
We know that a good immune system reduces the risk of more serious consequences
We know that vitamin D is highly beneficial
We also know/ suspect that small doses (4 X 3mg) tablets can be a very good prophylactic and that it reduces viral load
But the media and government keep being silent about it
We need to get this out on the main stream media, the Government never will as they do not care at all for the ones that are going to suffer as long as they make money by Graft, inheritance tax, and pensions not getting paid to dead peoples.
And this does not take in to account all the other victims suffering for other illnesses that can not get treatment because the hospital is full
How many Code black hospitals in the UK - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=How+many+Code+black+hospitals+in+the+UK&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=how+many+code+black+hospitals+in+the+uk&sc=1-39&sk=&cvid=E57954BB36574FF59EEBDE5A0DAA8285)
mad-moon
11-07-2021, 22:50
Marvelous ..Our lass has just been pinged by the nhs app....she has been in close proximity to someone who has tested positive for covid 19 and has been told to isolate...ffs..
mad-moon
11-07-2021, 22:55
Northeast of England is rife with this bastard virus...South Tyneside especially...Hmmmm I wonder...thousands upon thousands of more cases in the UK and more lockdowns afoot??? there is going to be fucking chaos.....
Why would there be? Hardly anyone is dying this time...Unless that situation changes drastically, which I doubt (although I expect case numbers to continue to rise whilst we ride out this wave, and reach their peak before subsiding), there'll be no more lockdowns.
So as Michael Winner used to say... 'Calm down, dear!':ner:;)
Have faith in yer jabs, and ROLL ON FREEDOM DAY!!!:more::more:
Marco.
Long Covid (as opposed to just deaths) in younger folks is a genuine concern.
Aside that,
This, and ncreased non-death hospitilisations all have a knock on effect on NHS capacity, which is serious.
Increased waiting list times, cancelled operations and treatment...etc.
It all matters, not just number of people dying from Covid imo which, given the uncertainty going forward after July 19th in England,...I'd say no-one truthfully could predict.
But as long as Boris and his Chums can rely on good old British common sense it'll all be fine.
https://i.imgur.com/EZsGtDP.jpeg
http://imgur.com/a/h6hWLet
Just a thought...
Long Covid (as opposed to just deaths) in younger folks is a genuine concern.
Aside that,
This, and ncreased non-death hospitilisations all have a knock on effect on NHS capacity, which is serious.
Increased waiting list times, cancelled operations and treatment...etc.
It all matters, not just number of people dying from Covid imo which, given the uncertainty going forward after July 19th in England,...I'd say no-one truthfully could predict.
I fully agree with that Gaz, and all you've written above (my wife's still suffering from some effects of long Covid), but my point is, unless people start dying again in large numbers [and let's pray that doesn't happen, *if* the vaccines are truly effective], it won't justify a further lockdown.
As for the pics you've posted of the behaviour of some low-life scum, that will never change, Covid or no Covid, but I guess we just have to learn to live with both, as neither are going away anytime soon!:doh:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
12-07-2021, 19:58
https://i.imgur.com/EZsGtDP.jpeg
http://imgur.com/a/h6hWLet
Just a thought...
While not condoning the behaviour of certain England fans last night, I'm not at all shocked by this pic - looks exactly like Glastonbury the next morning, or probably after any event where huge crowds concentrate, with refreshments but no bins or toilet facilities :(
While not condoning the behaviour of certain England fans last night, I'm not at all shocked by this pic - looks exactly like Glastonbury the next morning, or probably after any event where huge crowds concentrate, with refreshments but no bins or toilet facilities :(
So that's an excuse for leaving the place like a midden? OMG, they didn't provide refreshments, a porta loo or bin on every corner, hired help to wipe my bum and tidy up my mess, simply because there's a big football match on and I've chosen to wander the streets, so I'll just dump it all on the floor!:wowzer:
Don't know about you mate, but I was brought up not to drop litter, and if there wasn't a bin handy, to take my rubbish home.
You can't expect others to provide every necessary facility for you in a public space. And yes, Glasto's also often left like a filthy midden by lazy and inconsiderate slobs, and equally inexcusable, which is why I wouldn't go near it with a bargepole.
Is dropping litter on beaches, having a shit in the sand or abandoning your kid's soiled nappies, also understandable, if the authorities haven't provided what you consider as 'adequate facilities'? If YOU create mess/rubbish, of ANY description, in any public space, then YOU (no-one else) are responsible for it, and therefore to tidy it up - simples!!
The local authorities are not your unpaid skivvies.
:exactly:
Marco.
So that's an excuse for leaving the place like a midden? OMG, they didn't provide refreshments, a porta loo on every corner, hired help to wipe my bum and tidy up my mess, just because there's a big football match on and I've chosen to wander the streets, so I'll just dump it all on the floor!:wowzer:
Don't know about you mate, but I was brought up not to drop litter, and if there wasn't a bin handy, take my rubbish home. You can't expect others to provide every necessary facility for you in a public space. And yes, Glasto's often like that too, and equally inexcusable, which is why I wouldn't go near it with a bargepole.
Is dropping litter on beaches, having a shit in the sand or abandoning your kid's soiled nappies, also understandable, if the authorities haven't provided what you consider as 'adequate facilities'? If YOU create mess/rubbish, of ANY description, in any public space, then YOU (no-one else) are responsible for it, and therefore to tidy it up - simples!!
:exactly:
Marco.
Exactly - really annoys me when I go for a walk in my local area. Pleasant countryside, pretty views, lets park up the car and have a picnic/BBQ/even "happy meals" and Chinese takeaways and hide the rubbish in a hedge :steam:
Same here, mate. It's totally uncivilised, the sign of an inconsiderate and selfish slob, and also of declining standards in today's society. 'Why should I give a shit when someone else will tidy up after me?':doh:
It's as bad as the wankers who walk their dogs in parks and allow them to shit all over the place, instead of picking up their poo and disposing of it in the correct manner. The fact is, it's their dog, so they're responsible for its poo!
As I've said before, if I seen them I'd pick up all their dog's shit and put it in a bag, follow the cunts home, and empty it on their front lawn - or if they didn't have one, pop it through their letter box!!:trust:
Marco.
mad-moon
13-07-2021, 04:50
So that's an excuse for leaving the place like a midden? OMG, they didn't provide refreshments, a porta loo or bin on every corner, hired help to wipe my bum and tidy up my mess, simply because there's a big football match on and I've chosen to wander the streets, so I'll just dump it all on the floor!:wowzer:
Don't know about you mate, but I was brought up not to drop litter, and if there wasn't a bin handy, to take my rubbish home.
You can't expect others to provide every necessary facility for you in a public space. And yes, Glasto's also often left like a filthy midden by lazy and inconsiderate slobs, and equally inexcusable, which is why I wouldn't go near it with a bargepole.
Is dropping litter on beaches, having a shit in the sand or abandoning your kid's soiled nappies, also understandable, if the authorities haven't provided what you consider as 'adequate facilities'? If YOU create mess/rubbish, of ANY description, in any public space, then YOU (no-one else) are responsible for it, and therefore to tidy it up - simples!!
The local authorities are not your unpaid skivvies.
:exactly:
Marco.
yip..no excuses..
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