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I didn't follow Karl Mullis precisely to the end of his musings.
After about 5 seconds I was convinced he was Mad as a box of Frogs.
Get your Jab.
29193
Believe me. Everything else is worse. :)
anthonyTD
13-02-2021, 15:02
I rest my case!
I didn't follow Karl Mullis precisely to the end of his musings.
After about 5 seconds I was convinced he was Mad as a box of Frogs.
Get your Jab.
29193
Believe me. Everything else is worse. :)
mad-moon
13-02-2021, 16:11
So what sort are you then, and what exactly are you trying to say, if your trying to say that your from the smart camp, you know; the one that does no real research, and completey rely on the words of those in positions of power who have lied to us, time after time in the past, good luck with that!
One last ditch attempt, here's Karl Mullis, you know, the original inventor of the PCR test, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWN_PJ8t2o
The guys name is Kary Mullis...or are you confusing him with Karl Popper??..The PCR test is about as much use as a chocolate Kettle..although I do agree with Kary's opinion of Fauci
mad-moon
13-02-2021, 16:24
Oh...and you might want to look into Mullis's death in 2019...was it pneumonia??...Hmmmm I wonder, did he die of this virus that doesn't exist??
anthonyTD
13-02-2021, 16:27
Sorry Alan, slip of the keyboard, but you knew from the video who i was refering to.
The guys name is Kary Mullis...or are you confusing him with Karl Popper??..The PCR test is about as much use as a chocolate Kettle..although I do agree with Kary's opinion of Fauci
anthonyTD
13-02-2021, 16:28
No comment, apart from the fact that they are still using this Mad as a bucket of frogs [Stevens words not mine] PCR test as the main tool for shutting us all in our houses and frightening many wittless to the point that they will accept anything in the hope that it will allow them to get back to the life they had before all this came about.
Oh...and you might want to look into Mullis's death in 2019...was it pneumonia??...Hmmmm I wonder, did he die of this virus that doesn't exist??
When it comes to matters of Life and Death, I get serious. I know this Science stuff.
No way I am spending time on the Crazies like Karl or Kary Mullis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWN_PJ8t2o
Man has Crazy Eyes. Should be institutionalised, IMO. :lol:
Simple stuff really. Thing is, the Crazies threaten my Life. And yours.
anthonyTD
13-02-2021, 18:32
If you had followed the link Alan put up, you would know that he died in 2019, as for the rest of your comments, lets not go there, unless your prepared to read some informative material from the Crazies, i guess not...
When it comes to matters of Life and Death, I get serious. I know this Science stuff.
No way I am spending time on the Crazies like Karl or Kary Mullis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWN_PJ8t2o
Man has Crazy Eyes. Should be institutionalised, IMO. :lol:
Simple stuff really. Thing is, the Crazies threaten my Life. And yours.
Stryder5
13-02-2021, 19:50
When it comes to matters of Life and Death, I get serious. I know this Science stuff.
No way I am spending time on the Crazies like Karl or Kary Mullis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWN_PJ8t2o
Man has Crazy Eyes. Should be institutionalised, IMO. :lol:
Simple stuff really. Thing is, the Crazies threaten my Life. And yours.
I’m sure you are confident in your “Science Stuff” when was your Nobel Prize awarded? I only have my common sense to decide how logical threats are using all sources available equally.
There are many Crazies around that threaten us, Main Stream Media belief generally responsible, and in the UK the Government seems to have its abundance of Butterfly decision makers creating Chaos!
Gary
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-propose-humidity-masks-may-lessen-severity-covid-19
Interesting research.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 08:06
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-propose-humidity-masks-may-lessen-severity-covid-19
Interesting research.
Interesting indeed... sounds like face shields won't be helpful in this respect tho.
I've got a date for my first vaccination yesterday - 24rd February. Sooner than I was expecting :yay:
I thought Anita would have got in before me due to her health conditions, so it looks like age is the overriding factor (I'm 63, she's 52). But if my understanding that vaccinated folk are less likely to transmit is true, then that can only reduce her risk to some degree. And I'm betting her date will only be days away.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 09:16
Kinda flawed research when the masks are modified to ensure they are air tight, so not real day to day, ready available masks.
The box material is not explained just “metal”. The size of the box would be relevant but not disclosed. The temperature differential between the inside and outside the box is not declared.
Assumptions are made about what’s happening to the condensate without actual measurements.
There are no real conclusions but suggestions of possible outcomes.
Funding for this organisation is not transparent currently.
Gary
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-propose-humidity-masks-may-lessen-severity-covid-19
Interesting research.
Kinda flawed research when the masks are modified to ensure they are air tight, so not real day to day, ready available masks.
The box material is not explained just “metal”. The size of the box would be relevant but not disclosed. The temperature differential between the inside and outside the box is not declared.
Assumptions are made about what’s happening to the condensate without actual measurements.
There are no real conclusions but suggestions of possible outcomes.
Funding for this organisation is not transparent currently.
Gary
Yes that all occurred to me too.
if masks worked in the real world we wouldn't have had a second wave like we did and wouldn't be in lockdown now.
walpurgis
14-02-2021, 09:40
A year on (thereabouts) with Coronavirus here, we are still in a situation where the are no solid 'facts'. What has been established is a rather changeable best practice under the circumstances we find ourselves in. Even informed comment about the disease and its handling is still vague and sprinkled with words like 'probably', 'likely' and 'maybe', so the situation remains fluid. I think things are mostly being handled as best can be, but I do feel an opportunity was missed by not having a longer and utterly rigid first lockdown which should have also blocked arrivals from abroad.
walpurgis
14-02-2021, 09:46
if masks worked in the real world we wouldn't have had a second wave like we did and wouldn't be in lockdown now.
If masks worked, I wouldn't have caught the bloody virus!
A year on (thereabouts) with Coronavirus here, we are still in a situation where the are no solid 'facts'. What has been established is a rather changeable best practice under the circumstances we find ourselves in. Even informed comment about the disease and its handling is still vague and sprinkled with words like 'probably', 'likely' and 'maybe', so the situation remains fluid. I think things are mostly being handled as best can be, but I do feel an opportunity was missed by not having a longer and utterly rigid first lockdown which should have also blocked arrivals from abroad.
I keep reading this everywhere about stopping people coming into the country but it really is impossible. UK isn't some backwater like New Zealand where hardly anyone needs to go to or wants to go to.
UK is pretty much the centre of the world and London is the world capital. Millions of people come and go in the space of a week. You can't realistically put a stop to that until the time the entire world population is vaccinated and the virus gone as that is going to take years yet.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 10:10
Yes that all occurred to me too.
if masks worked in the real world we wouldn't have had a second wave like we did and wouldn't be in lockdown now.
Nobody ever said that masks are the solution, just that they are better than nothing. And different masks vary in their effectiveness no doubt, otherwise hospital staff could get by with the crap Mr Joe Average wears to do his Lidl shop.
Any number of reasons why we are in lockdown now - visitors from overseas, Christmas gatherings, multi-generation families where younger generations aren't complying, government guidelines which come too late, not severe enough, too vague, many many other things we can blame.
The only way I can see masks contributing to the 'second spike' is by giving people a false sense of security and making them a bit more lax about social distancing... sorry Martin, I bet that's what you were getting at. Actually with that in mind, I'm moving over to an 'anti masks' view :doh:
Think they were saying there was some evidence, that the more moist the air you breath, the less chance you have of getting a very bad illness.
Nobody ever said that masks are the solution, just that they are better than nothing. And different masks vary in their effectiveness no doubt, otherwise hospital staff could get by with the crap Mr Joe Average wears to do his Lidl shop.
No doubt about that. I bought one for a quid, stick it on just before I go in the shop, take it off as soon as I come out. For compliance, nothing more as I'm quite confident it does jack shit to protect me or anyone else. No intention of washing it or buying another unless it falls apart or I lose it. How many people doing the same as me? I'd guess most.
The old lady who runs the shop just pulls her shawl up over her face when serving people.
Does make me laugh when you see people driving in their cars alone with their pound shop face mask still on. Do they think they can catch covid off the car?
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 10:40
I keep reading this everywhere about stopping people coming into the country but it really is impossible. UK isn't some backwater like New Zealand where hardly anyone needs to go to or wants to go to.
UK is pretty much the centre of the world and London is the world capital. Millions of people come and go in the space of a week. You can't realistically put a stop to that until the time the entire world population is vaccinated and the virus gone as that is going to take years yet.
Well we are expected to make do with online communication in pretty much everything we do, so why can't people wanting to enter Britain do the same? It's not like they're coming over to build hospitals or mend roads is it?
Don't know how easy it would be to police though, we can't even keep folk from crossing the Channel in their bath tubs.
Well we are expected to make do with online communication in pretty much everything we do, so why can't people wanting to enter Britain do the same? It's not like they're coming over to build hospitals or mend roads is it?
Don't know how easy it would be to police though, we can't even keep folk from crossing the Channel in their bath tubs.
I don't know how many of those incoming journeys are essential but I'd guess it is more than we'd think. Like still a couple of million a year. You can't do everything remotely. And what about haulage and so forth, how many lorries come and go every day? Must be in the thousands, and you can't stop that or we all starve.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 12:02
Think they were saying there was some evidence, that the more moist the air you breath, the less chance you have of getting a very bad illness.
There’s been more saying that more moisture can create problems in itself. So as usual opposing views
Gary
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 12:07
In the case of lorries entering and leaving Britain, for the last few weeks there has been a gantry sign on M6 near us telling lorry drivers that a Covid-19 testing station is at Charnock Richard services - I assume there is similar on the other side of the channel.
I know the risk can't be eliminated, but could be considerably reduced. As my mate down the Tesco likes to say, every little helps.
Proof of vaccination will be required for most carriers and possibly countries. Its used in many countries as it is with various diseases.
I'm just dying for every bugger who wants 'jabbed', to get it (and it be over and done with), so we can hear about something else (all the other important things happening around the world), as I'm sick to my back teeth of hearing about bloody vaccines - it's all you get all over the TV and radio!!:doh:
So let's get it all done and dusted, ASAP, then we can move on and hear about FUN/NICE THINGS again!:exactly::cool:
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
rmcin626
14-02-2021, 12:58
I'm just dying for every bugger who wants 'jabbed', to get it (and it be over and done with), so we can hear about something else (all the other important things happening around the world), as I'm sick to my back teeth of hearing about bloody vaccines - it's all you get all over the TV and radio!!:doh:
So let's get it all done and dusted, ASAP, then we can move on and hear about FUN/NICE THINGS again!:exactly::cool:
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
You wont hear any of that jabbed nonsense from me, but I did receive my first jag the the other day.
...................................
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
We know, we've seen the photo's of the red outfit :lol:
Just don't watch/listen to the news. I hardly ever do, I'm not missing anything.
The news is a bit like 'Duty Free' with Keith Baron. Same story every episode, the only thing that changes is who is hiding in whose wardrobe.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 13:11
Does make me laugh when you see people driving in their cars alone with their pound shop face mask still on. Do they think they can catch covid off the car?
I know, I smile when I see that. Pointless. I suppose they can catch it off surfaces other drivers/passengers may have touched. If they're that bothered they should wear gloves instead.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 13:17
You wont hear any of that jabbed nonsense from me, but I did receive my first jag the the other day.
You will of course need to get another one in three months' time. Oh wait, that's Range Rovers :)
You can save time and effort by not watching the news. If you feel the need to 'know what's going on' just refer to this handy 'cut out and keep' guide and then get on with your day:
The News In Brief:
A Politician said something.
A Celebrity said something.
A Tidal wave/earthquake/volcano/train wreck/pick your own disaster - has happened somewhere in the world and lots of people you don't know have died.
Ethnic minorities/the disabled/women/'young people'/pick your own minority group - are still being discriminated against.
Someone you don't know was stabbed.
Climate change (BBC and Chan 4 only) is much worse than we think - again.
The economy is predicted to go up/go down/stay the same.
Some fat bastard broke curfew to go get a dozen big macs
It's still kicking off in the Middle East.
And finally 'The Weather' - more information about something you have zero control over.
rmcin626
14-02-2021, 13:22
You will of course need to get another one in three months' time. Oh wait, that's Range Rovers :)
I prefer an Audi
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 13:23
I'm just dying for every bugger who wants 'jabbed', to get it (and it be over and done with), so we can hear about something else (all the other important things happening around the world), as I'm sick to my back teeth of hearing about bloody vaccines - it's all you get all over the TV and radio!!:doh:
So let's get it all done and dusted, ASAP, then we can move on and hear about FUN/NICE THINGS again!:exactly::cool:
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
Which fun/nice things are you referring to? Brexit? Black Lives Matter? Climate change? The on-it's-arse economy? I can't wait! :) I may start watching Newsround instead. Is it still John Craven?
You can save time and effort by not watching the news. If you feel the need to 'know what's going on' just refer to this handy 'cut out and keep' guide and then get on with your day:
The News In Brief:
A Politician said something.
A Celebrity said something.
A Tidal wave/earthquake/volcano/train wreck/pick your own disaster - has happened somewhere in the world and lots of people you don't know have died.
Ethnic minorities/the disabled/women/'young people'/pick your own minority group - are still being discriminated against.
Someone you don't know was stabbed.
Climate change (BBC and Chan 4 only) is much worse than we think - again.
The economy is predicted to go up/go down/stay the same.
It's still kicking off in the Middle East.
And finally 'The Weather' - more information about something you have zero control over.
you forgot, some fat bastard broke curfew to go get a dozen big macs;)
I'm just dying for every bugger who wants 'jabbed', to get it (and it be over and done with), so we can hear about something else (all the other important things happening around the world), as I'm sick to my back teeth of hearing about bloody vaccines - it's all you get all over the TV and radio!!:doh:
So let's get it all done and dusted, ASAP, then we can move on and hear about FUN/NICE THINGS again!:exactly::cool:
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
im just dying:)
you forgot, some fat bastard broke curfew to go get a dozen big macs;)
Do they really run stories like that? I don't know having not watched in years. I'll add it to the guide.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 13:36
Life is for living and enjoying yourself, and for a bon vivant, such as me, there's been too precious little of that recently.
Marco.
To be fair buddy, I don't imagine things have changed that much for you. You can still watch films, play music, cook stuff and eat it. You may be required to shop closer to home, and certain boutiques will have been closed to you (but believe me, Ann Summers will be suffering more from your absence than you ;)
There are others who are being affected really badly, and in the absence of Things We're Allowed To Do it's a topic at the forefront of most people's minds. That and the (hopefully imminent) Marco "Glad that shit is over" barbeque :)
Do they really run stories like that? I don't know having not watched in years. I'll add it to the guide.
always someone breaking curfew for silly reasons. often there are stories about fat bassas too. cant attack folk on creed or colour so they go for fatness. and if they are fat and on the dole; even better... used to be smokers but thats kinda dried up.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 13:45
always someone breaking curfew for silly reasons. often there are stories about fat bassas too. cant attack folk on creed or colour so they go for fatness. and if they are fat and on the dole; even better... used to be smokers but thats kinda dried up.
As soon as smokers had been battered to the ground, the writing was on the wall for the fat folk. Next it'll be the meat eaters. It's already started.
Is this the kind of fun stuff you've been missing Marco?
To be fair buddy, I don't imagine things have changed that much for you. You can still watch films, play music, cook stuff and eat it. You may be required to shop closer to home, and certain boutiques will have been closed to you (but believe me, Ann Summers will be suffering more from your absence than you ;)
There are others who are being affected really badly, and in the absence of Things We're Allowed To Do it's a topic at the forefront of most people's minds. That and the (hopefully imminent) Marco "Glad that shit is over" barbeque :)
Ha - of course, and yes compared to many we're lucky.
So don't disagree with much of that, but we normally travel around the place, to Chester, Liverpool, Manchester, Shrewsbury [Del wants some new dresses for work from her fav boutique there], and for other shopping and stuff, plus also around rural England and Wales for nice pub lunches - and all sorts.
All of that is required for in order for a bon vivant to function!:ner:
We want to get away from the same four bloody walls and garden, and out of Wrexham for a change, as I've also got a princess to entertain, and she's BORED!!!:wah::wah:
:D;)
Marco.
As soon as smokers had been battered to the ground, the writing was on the wall for the fat folk. Next it'll be the meat eaters. It's already started.
Is this the kind of fun stuff you've been missing Marco?
Not sure what your point is there, daftee? We just want to get out and boost the economy with all the money we've saved from being able to buy hee-haw apart from the boring basics, or travel to hee-haw, and to wake up in the morning looking forward to how WE can plan OUR day, rather than being handcuffed under virtual house arrest!
A free spirit like me, who's used to being controlled or bossed by no-one, hates having his wings clipped!!:exactly:
<Rant over>
As you were, and yes I l know we're still very lucky compared with most:)
Marco.
Ha - of course, and yes compared to many we're lucky.
So don't disagree with much of that, but we normally travel around the place, to Chester, Liverpool, Manchester, Shrewsbury [Del wants some new dresses for work from her fav boutique there], and for other shopping and stuff, plus also around rural England and Wales for nice pub lunches - and all sorts.
All of that is required for in order for a bon vivant to function!:ner:
We want to get away from the same four bloody walls and garden, and out of Wrexham for a change, as I've also got a princess to entertain, and she's BORED!!!:wah::wah:
:D;)
Marco.
Poor lass.. she is not used to this Prisoner TV series we are living.:D Alas even I am starting to fray a bit....
Indeed, matey. She **DYING** to see her pals again, and socialise with them - you've no idea how much, as she's missing the girly contact!:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:04
At least Del has you there 24/7 - Anita has to put up with being alone all day on weekdays (well her 25 year-old son is there, which is just as bad), without me to moan at. But as I always tell her, at least she has her health AND me. :) No one else in the world has both of those things.
:lolsign:
Yeah, and it's a good job we get on so well and have a giggle, which isn't always the case in long-term marital relationships, so by and large it's been fine. But Del's younger and much more of a social creature than me, and is suffering from the lack of that, especially with her girly friends.
All I can say, from someone who's not normally pro-tech, and from Del's point of view, is thank goodness for Face Time!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:12
A free spirit like me, who's used to being controlled or bossed by no-one, hates having his wings clipped!!:exactly:
Marco.
It must have been really hard for a free sprit such as yourself, who is bossed by no-one, to choose between a dedicated dressing room for Del, or a snow machine, also for Del. Best get both, to be on the safe side :)
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:16
Not sure what your point is there, daftee?
Marco.
You're sick of all the vaccine-talk, well here we were discussing non-vaccine stuff. Just for you. And do we get any thanks? :(
Indeed, matey. She **DYING** to see her pals again, and socialise with them - you've no idea how much, as she's missing the girly contact!:)
Marco.
aren't we all :ner:
next month she will be free..
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:21
Indeed, matey. She **DYING** to see her pals again, and socialise with them - you've no idea how much, as she's missing the girly contact!:)
Marco.
And dressing you to look like one of her mates isn't hitting the spot? Perhaps she could be distracted by knocking up an outfit on the old Singer, to match the gear you posed in for Filterlab's picture. You really do suit red :)
You're sick of all the vaccine-talk, well here we were discussing non-vaccine stuff. Just for you. And do we get any thanks? :(
Ha - velee goot....:D
Well, the subject in question, which was brought up, holds no interest for me, and defo ain't fun.
Marco.
aren't we all :ner:
next month she will be free..
Don't worry, your 'niece' will fix that:D;)
Marco.
Don't worry, your 'niece' will fix that:D;)
Marco.
yes look aftr my nice neice. ;)
And dressing you to look like one of her mates isn't hitting the spot? Perhaps she could be distracted by knocking up an outfit on the old Singer, to match the gear you posed in for Filterlab's picture. You really do suit red :)
Yes, the naughty boy's been rifling through my 'secret wardrobe' again and picking the stuff he'd love to wear but can no longer get into!:lol:
Sadly though being dressed up to look like one of her mates, as cute as I undoubtedly look :D wouldn't quite cut it for Del... And she suits red rather better than me, or more topically, pink, given what I bought her for Valentines:eyebrows:
What did you get Anita?:ner:;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:44
Yes, the naughty boy's been rifling through my 'secret wardrobe' again and picking the stuff he'd love to wear but can no longer get into!:lol:
Sadly though being dressed up to look like one of her mates, as cute as I undoubtedly look :D wouldn't quite cut it for Del... And she suits red rather better than me, or more topically, pink, given what I bought her for Valentines:eyebrows:
What did you get Anita?:ner:;)
Marco.
We don't subscribe to that nonsense, never have. Just a money-making con, like Fathers Day. Which I actually don't mind ;) Besides, I'm all she needs :) What did Del get you?
Shame he can no longer fit into those outfits - is that why you call him Rob the Blob when he's not listening?
Firebottle
14-02-2021, 14:46
.. and she's BORED!!!:wah::wah:
Marco.
Welcome to the club, how do you think I feel having to keep my feet on the ground for so long..
https://media2.giphy.com/media/rPkPoZ7qMmFFu/giphy.gif
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 14:50
Wow, is that video real? I understand your frustration, but if my feel spent more than a couple of seconds in the air it would be due to falling off my ladders :doh:
Firebottle
14-02-2021, 15:00
It is a multiple exposure with just one pilot, but real flying.
erica jong wrote a book called fear of flying :lol: wasnt about flying tho..;) was quite a good book ;i read it in the day
We don't subscribe to that nonsense, never have. Just a money-making con, like Fathers Day. Which I actually don't mind ;) Besides, I'm all she needs :) What did Del get you?
Lol, aside from a nice card, the pleasure of waking up beside her every morning!;)
I know what you mean about subscribing to that nonsense, but I just use it as another excuse to spoil her [and in fairness, she doesn't try too hard to stop me, lol], so the pleasure of that is worth it, especially if she models something new that's silky and slinky, which I defo won't fit into!:eyebrows::lol:
Marco.
Welcome to the club, how do you think I feel having to keep my feet on the ground for so long..
https://media2.giphy.com/media/rPkPoZ7qMmFFu/giphy.gif
Haha, yeah you must be missing that, mate. Young(ish) girlies are a bit different, though!:rolleyes:
Anyway, I don't get why you can't 'fly'... What's the difference between you up there, doin' ya thang, and all the passenger airplanes going here there and everywhere, regardless of lockdown?:hmm:
Up there, there's not exactly a lack of 'social distancing'!:D
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 15:30
I suppose going down the paramotor club counts as a non-essential journey.
all leisure flying in lockdown.
I suppose going down the paramotor club counts as a non-essential journey.
Who's it harming though, and how??:hmm:
I dislike all ill-considered blanket bans. The fair way of doing it is to judge *everything* on it's individual merit or otherwise - not using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, just because it's simpler!:doh:
Marco.
hifi_dave
14-02-2021, 16:00
Probably because if you damage yourself, an ambulance might be needed which will expose the Paramedics to a patient who or may not be contagious. It also puts extra strain on the Hospitals when they least need it.
Same reason with needless long car journeys and people skiing, sledging etc in the snow etc.
Sure, but you could get knocked down making a 'non-essential' journey to a supermarket [and btw, I wonder how many of those are occurring daily?] with the same outcome!;)
Marco.
hifi_dave
14-02-2021, 16:11
Of course but surely flying is more dangerous and definitely non essential. Just adds to the potential patients.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 16:13
Who's it harming though, and how??:hmm:
I dislike all ill-considered blanket bans. The fair way of doing it is to judge *everything* on it's individual merit or otherwise - not using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, just because it's simpler!:doh:
Marco.
But Marco, you're forgetting about the childish fuckers, who'll say..well if he can go there, I'm going here there and every fucking where...any fucker in this country judging anything on its merits...HA!!!!!!
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 16:14
Sure, but you could get knocked down making a 'non-essential' journey to a supermarket [and btw, I wonder how many of those are occurring daily?] with the same outcome!;)
Marco.
Sublime and ridiculous come to mind...
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 16:16
Probably because if you damage yourself, an ambulance might be needed which will expose the Paramedics to a patient who or may not be contagious. It also puts extra strain on the Hospitals when they least need it.
Same reason with needless long car journeys and people skiing, sledging etc in the snow etc.
A risk assessment of the likelihood of a pilot of a Paramotor crashing, being contagious, and infecting emergency personnel would, I think, prove how ludicrous this scenario is.
Gary
guess lines have to be drawn. hopefully we will see benefit soon, or i think the commons will revolt; and they are revolting enough as is.:eyebrows:
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 16:22
[ATTACH=CONFIG]29198[/ATTACHThis couldn’t possibly happen...
Any chance of a bigger image (as the enclosed one is microscopic) or a direct link to the article in question?
Marco.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 16:25
let's see how our semi-freedom will affect the situation in the near future, when Mr Johnson says we can play out again, next month...?? doubtless the virus will be on the up again, and we'll be put back into our prisons..for yet again, another lockdown.
But Marco, you're forgetting about the childish fuckers, who'll say..well if he can go there, I'm going here there and every fucking where...any fucker in this country judging anything on its merits...HA!!!!!!
No, but the rules that the government impose should be based on such! Then what happens after that is in the lap of the gods, but at least some appropriate logic and fairness has been applied.
Marco.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 16:29
[ATTACH=CONFIG]29198[/ATTACHThis couldn’t possibly happen...
This....I think...
https://thedailycoin.org/2021/02/04/implanted-vaccine-package-id-germanys-parliament-has-ratified-gavis-digital-agenda-id2020/
let's see how our semi-freedom will affect the situation in the near future, when Mr Johnson says we can play out again, next month...?? doubtless the virus will be on the up again, and we'll be put back into our prisons..for yet again, another lockdown.
Aye, and that's when the people's revolution begins!;)
I'm not joking either, as even the normally unfailingly patient (and largely subservient) British public, who are predisposed to enjoying a queue and doing what they're told, will have had enough, especially after the promise of the supposed 'magic bullet' of the vaccines returning life to 'normal'!:doh:
Marco.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 16:36
Aye, and that's when the people's revolution begins!;)
I'm not joking either, as even the normally unfailingly patient (and largely subservient) British public, who are predisposed to enjoying a queue and doing what they're told, will have had enough, especially after the promise of the supposed 'magic bullet' of the vaccines returning life to 'normal'!:doh:
Marco.
It will be a total and utter CLUSTERFUCK ! why doesn't the silly fucker wait till we are vaccinated...This isn't being done quickly enough either..we have more vaccine in this country than anywhere else in the world...Get your fucking finger out your arse and get it done Mr. Johnson...
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 16:37
Yep, beat me to it.
Gary
This....I think...
https://thedailycoin.org/2021/02/04/implanted-vaccine-package-id-germanys-parliament-has-ratified-gavis-digital-agenda-id2020/
i was told that it was one of reasons uk were keen to get out of eu.. the gavi is basically meant as a vaccine policy for 3rd world, but we all know if it becomes fact it will be used for pretty much everything. any govt in this country would be sealing it fate
Of course but surely flying is more dangerous and definitely non essential. Just adds to the potential patients.
What, than crossing a road in a busy town centre, with the maniacs around these days, or even driving in a car to the same destination.? I'm not sure the data backs that up.
And of course what qualifies as "essential" is often subjective, and therefore open to interpretation...
What's more 'essential': some track-suited chav making umpteen trips to Farmfoods, to buy oven chips, (and in the process in contact with many others and potentially spreading the virus), or Alan alone in the sky, enjoying his hobby in the fresh air, in good conditions, as an experienced flyer, almost certainly harming no-one, including himself, and in turn improving his sense of well-being and mental health, as a result of the stress of having had his freedoms forcibly removed for nearly a year?;)
Marco.
Aye, and that's when the people's revolution begins!;)
I'm not joking either, as even the normally unfailingly patient (and largely subservient) British public, who are predisposed to enjoying a queue and doing what they're told, will have had enough, especially after the promise of the supposed 'magic bullet' of the vaccines returning life to 'normal'!:doh:
Marco.
not sure the commons will allow another one tbvh.. rumblings in his own party, means if he tries he will get usurped probably. tories are fed up.
Yep, beat me to it.
Gary
How does that work though, with 5G or whatever, if you don't carry a tracking device (A.K,A smartphone), or any other such 'smart' device, around 24/7, or indeed ever [count me in]?
If not, presuming it exists, for the sake of argument, what good will the 'chip' do?
Marco.
not sure the commons will allow another one tbvh.. rumblings in his own party, means if he tries he will get usurped probably. tories are fed up.
Another what, mate?:)
Marco.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 16:57
Just taken from NHS website.
“How effective is the COVID-19 vaccine?
The 1st dose of the COVID-19 vaccine should give you good protection from coronavirus. But you need to have the 2 doses of the vaccine to give you longer lasting protection.
There is a chance you might still get or spread coronavirus even if you have the vaccine.
This means it is important to:
continue to follow social distancing guidance
if you can, wear something that covers your nose and mouth in places where it's hard to stay away from other people”.
Is this the beginning of vaccination passport?
Reading the above the implication is “ if you have been vaccinated you may not have to wear a mask?”.
Another what, mate?:)
Marco.
full lockdown. economically it would be a bigger disaster than losing a million folk
How does that work though, with 5G or whatever, if you don't carry a tracking device (A.K,A smartphone), or any other such 'smart' device, around 24/7, or indeed ever [count me in]?
If not, presuming it exists, for the sake of argument, what good will the 'chip' do?
Marco.
its currently too big tbh but idea is an advanced version of the ones dogs get. it gets scanned, but possibly also by remote scanners..or thats the fears . not really sure it would happen that way. just dont see it in west especially
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 17:04
How does that work though, with 5G or whatever, if you don't carry a tracking device (A.K,A smartphone), or any other such 'smart' device, around 24/7, or indeed ever [count me in]?
If not, presuming it exists, for the sake of argument, what good will the 'chip' do?
Marco.
You have to read the rest of the article:-
Once every citizen on the planet – according to Bill Gates – about 7 billion-plus will be ID-chipped, the control of a small globalist elite will be close to total.
With an electromagnetic field and with 5G / 6G EM-waves allowing inputs and access of data in your body – the control of each individual is almost complete. The “almost” refers to the planned access to your brainwaves.
This is supposed to be happening through a Brain Computer Interface (BCI), called Neurolink (https://neuralink.com/) – developed by Elon Musk. (see video)
It presents an interface of electronic waves with the human brain which, by then, will have been converted into an electromagnetic field (EMF), so that it can receive digital commands that will influence our behavior, or can be turned off – RIP – as may be is most convenient for the Global Cabal.
bill said that? ;) sounds more like get a few technologies that are being worked on and add then together with some imagination
Firebottle
14-02-2021, 17:07
... or Alan alone in the sky, enjoying his hobby in the fresh air, in good conditions, as an experienced flyer, almost certainly harming no-one, including himself, and in turn improving his sense of well-being and mental health, as a result of the stress of having had his freedoms forcibly removed for nearly a year?;)
Marco.
Indeed, having enjoyed that freedom it is most frustrating to have it limited, fortunately it hasn't been restricted for a year.
My last flight was on the 31st of December, seems an age ago.
You have to read the rest of the article:-
Once every citizen on the planet – according to Bill Gates – about 7 billion-plus will be ID-chipped, the control of a small globalist elite will be close to total.
With an electromagnetic field and with 5G / 6G EM-waves allowing inputs and access of data in your body – the control of each individual is almost complete. The “almost” refers to the planned access to your brainwaves.
This is supposed to be happening through a Brain Computer Interface (BCI), called Neurolink (https://neuralink.com/) – developed by Elon Musk. (see video)
It presents an interface of electronic waves with the human brain which, by then, will have been converted into an electromagnetic field (EMF), so that it can receive digital commands that will influence our behavior, or can be turned off – RIP – as may be is most convenient for the Global Cabal.
Yet the powers that be can't even get Track & Trace to work?;)
Marco.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 17:17
bill said that? ;) sounds more like get a few technologies that are being worked on and add then together with some imagination
You think?
Who would have imagined a couple of years ago that we would be in our current situation. Bill Gates, the WHO, Fauci.....
Gary
Indeed, having enjoyed that freedom it is most frustrating to have it limited, fortunately it hasn't been restricted for a year.
My last flight was on the 31st of December, seems an age ago.
Ah, my bad then. Glad it's not been as long as I thought, mate, although like the rest of us, you've still been under other lockdown restrictions for roughly that long.
In any case, you can see my point? The definition of 'essential', in that respect, is rather ambiguous, to say the least, and typical of 'catch all' [regardless of whether properly considered or fair] blanket bans on *anything*!
Problem is, folks too happily put up with dictatorship/authoritarian shite, under the premise of 'it's the law', when the law is often an ass, but I think those days are fast ending;)
Marco.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 17:32
Yet the powers that be can't even get track & trace to work?;)
Marco.
You need to understand that this is not an Excel spreadsheet with a postboy running it. Our current Government or Scientists are not even capable of pissing in a pot without missing it. We have some very clever Global entities running these programs.
As you say they can’t run track and trace, which was always a red herring to placate Parliament and people. Utter bollox.
This is not looking at where you’re shopping or what knickers you’re buying your girlfriend, current technology does this.
Gary
most aint that clever tbh, just big and rich. most have as much talent as the govt's of world. just more money and prepared to see something through where govts like uk always just give up as its too pricey.
You need to understand that this is not an Excel spreadsheet with a postboy running it. Our current Government or Scientists are not even capable of pissing in a pot without missing it. We have some very clever Global entities running these programs.
As you say they can’t run track and trace, which was always a red herring to placate Parliament and people. Utter bollox.
This is not looking at where your shopping or what knickers you’re buying your girlfriend, current technology does this.
Sure, and as you know I have some sympathies with your viewpoint, and wouldn't ever rule it out, but if such a thing were to happen, I doubt it would occur in our lifetime.
Also, what happens with all the newborns, conceived after (or long after) all these 'brain-controlling chips' have supposedly been implanted in the existing population, via the current vaccination programme?
Are you saying in future that mandatory vaccinations (against what?) filled with such chips, will be given to all newborn babies, in order that they too can be ruled by the cabal?;)
Otherwise, when all the brain-chipped oldies die off, the planet will be saved by those pesky kids!:D
Marco.
Stryder5
14-02-2021, 18:00
It’s taken a year or so to get to our current state so I have tried to stay away from timescales, which to a point is irrelevant.
Please don’t take selected phrases as the whole picture, your clever enough to understand the wider picture, brain control is a wide scope and can cover emissions.
I’m having food now may continue :)
Gary
Forget chips think smaller....lol (first I write think bigger....now smaller) hell what do I know?
You owe it to your newborn to be protected, look into his/her eyes and say you won’t protect them (just like the fear propaganda that’s on some TV channels right now, which by the way I consider to be utterly disgusting and below any sort of humanity.).
If we consider that vaccination passports could be a reality, how about vaccination birth certificates.
I wouldn’t consider vaccination generation limited.
I’m just sounding off possibilities not propositions.
I really hope I’m terribly wrong about the whole COVID-19 project and it’s repercussions, but logic and my reasoning makes me a true sceptic.
I’m not anti vaccination, everyone’s own call, follow your own opinion/conscience.
Gary
Sure, and as you know I have some sympathies with your viewpoint, and wouldn't ever rule it out, but if such a thing were to happen, I doubt it would occur in our lifetime.
Also, what happens with all the newborns, conceived after (or long after) all these 'brain-controlling chips' have supposedly been implanted in the existing population, via the current vaccination programme?
Are you saying in future that mandatory vaccinations (against what?), filled with such chips, will be given to all newborn babies, in order that they too can be ruled by the cabal?;)
Otherwise, when all the brain-chipped oldies die off, the planet will be saved by those pesky kids!:D
Marco.
I take a pragmatic view of this whole Covid-19 horror.
IMO, Bill Gates has better things to do than worry about me. :)
29193
I am more worried about YOU. :lol:
Get your Jab. It's Socially Responsible. Doesn't even hurt, and it's free.
full lockdown. economically it would be a bigger disaster than losing a million folk
Yes, I tend to agree, but then I thought the same after the last one, when the hope was that the spread would be controlled at a local, rather than national level.
Therefore if the vaccines prove not to be as effective as hoped, in that respect, and so the virus continues to spread in a serious way, then how could another full lockdown be ruled out?
Marco.
Get your Jab. It's Socially Responsible.
Don't start that pish, Steve. If you want it, you get it, by all means, but don't judge others whose valid decisions, based on their circumstances and assessment of the situation, are different from yours!!
Marco.
Yes, I tend to agree, but then I thought the same after the last one, when the hope was that the spread would be controlled at a local, rather than national level.
Therefore if the vaccines prove not to be as effective as hoped, in that respect, and so the virus continues to spread in a serious way, then how could another full lockdown be ruled out?
Marco.
well, the question should be why bother as its been now proved all they do is delay the inevitable(if this lockdown fails).. i get the protect the nhs etc, but at what price? ok you will have people dying on the streets but at least we may afford them a burial.
not saying it will go that way as i dont think it will but the country really cant afford anther 3/4 months of lockdown after this one; also it would be futile as vaccines obviously havent worked
well, the question should be why bother as its been now proved all they do is delay the inevitable(if this lockdown fails).. i get the protect the nhs etc, but at what price? ok you will have people dying on the streets but at least we may afford them a burial.
not saying it will go that way as i dont think it will but the country really cant afford anther 3/4 months of lockdown after this one; also it would be futile as vaccines obviously havent worked
Hence why that (including all the other reasons I stated previously) is why I won't be bothering with any vaccine, and instead remaining 'blissfully unadulterated,' and placing faith in my (seemingly perfectly well-functioning) natural immune system:)
Your last point may unfortunately become the reality, but my gut says no.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 18:44
Hence why that (including all the other reasons I stated previously) is why I won't be bothering with any vaccine, and instead remaining 'blissfully unadulterated,' and placing faith in my (seemingly perfectly well-functioning) natural immune system:)
Your last point may unfortunately become the reality, but my gut says no.
Marco.
There was me thinking you were "sick to the back teeth" with vaccine talk (post #6275), and yet here we are! C'mon buddy, give us something a bit less doom-and-gloom. And not more about your seemingly perfectly functioning natural immune system, which has had almost as many re-runs as the words "socially responsible" :ner:
Tell us what you had for your tea, or am I in the wrong thread? :)
Filterlab
14-02-2021, 18:48
...some track-suited chav making umpteen trips to Farmfoods, to buy oven chips...
I just sent m' bird dowwwn there, she's bin five times today, lazy cowww.
https://i.ibb.co/jTqxMG3/C1-EBF215-BB7-C-42-F9-A19-E-41-AFAF8-D8667.jpg (https://ibb.co/zrCLRbP)
Lol - someone else brought the bloody subject up after that, not me!:ner:
What are YOU having for your tea, daftee? You never say, and most importantly, who's cooking it?;)
Or the same in the past tense, if you're already had it.
Marco.
I am SO going to give my Brainy and Rich Brother-in-Law a Hard Time next time I see him. :)
Having followed his Wedding Vows to my lovely sister, with a Child's eye. What Happened?
"I, JOHN take thee, JEAN, to be my wedded Wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part, according to God's holy ordinance; and thereto I pledge thee my faith."
Thing is, when Jean inadvertently caught the wretched Germ, he was up the Street like a flash into rented accomodation. A day of reckoning should follow. Just my opinion. :lol:
I just sent m' bird dowwwn there, she's bin five times today, lazy cowww.
https://i.ibb.co/jTqxMG3/C1-EBF215-BB7-C-42-F9-A19-E-41-AFAF8-D8667.jpg (https://ibb.co/zrCLRbP)
HAHAHAHA... Looks like Macca's love child!:lol:
Does she have a scouse accent, too?;)
Hmm... With a different hairstyle, clothes, and a damn good wash, she *could* be pumpable!:D
Marco.
I am SO going to give my Brainy and Rich Brother-in-Law a Hard Time next time I see him. :)
Having followed his Wedding Vows to my lovely sister, with a Child's eye. What Happened?
Thing is, when JEAN caught the wretched Germ, he was up the Street like a flash. A day of wreckoning should follow. Just my opinion. :lol:
indeed.. there comes a time when one needs to remember who and what'you should be' even if your scared.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 18:58
HAHAHAHA... Looks like Macca's love child!:lol:
Does she have a scouse accent, too?;)
Hmm... With a different hairstyle, clothes, and a damn good wash, she *could* be pumpable!:D
Marco.
If she had a damned good wash, do you think she'd be covid free and still be pumpable.??
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 19:05
well, the question should be why bother as its been now proved all they do is delay the inevitable(if this lockdown fails).. i get the protect the nhs etc, but at what price? ok you will have people dying on the streets but at least we may afford them a burial.
not saying it will go that way as i dont think it will but the country really cant afford anther 3/4 months of lockdown after this one; also it would be futile as vaccines obviously havent worked
I don't understand this Grant, only a small percentage of the UK have been vaccinated, I can't see how this statement can be made..As for not being able to stand another 3/4months lockdown. When Boris relaxes the restrictions, that's exactly what is going to happen...more lockdowns I'm afraid...
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:11
Lol - someone else brought the bloody subject up after that, not me!:ner:
What are YOU having for your tea, daftee? You never say, and most importantly, who's cooking it?;)
Or the same in the past tense, if you're already had it.
Marco.
Nope, it was you... only other mention of the 'v' word was in the context of your earlier complaint, and our attempts to change the subject. So :ner::ner:
Oh, and tea for me was Chinese 'special' curry, ie everything in it. With rice. Delivered. Lazy end to a bone idle weekend :) Don't know who cooked it, probably Jock-the-Wok in the stripey socks. He may not be called Jock, it just rhymed.
If she had a damned good wash, do you think she'd be covid free and still be pumpable.??
As long as she doesn't drink pints of cider, could have 'who's shagged who in Love Island' as her specialist subject on Mastermind, or cunningly concealing a moustache, I'd consider it.
Marco.
I don't understand this Grant, only a small percentage of the UK have been vaccinated, I can't see how this statement can be made..As for not being able to stand another 3/4months lockdown. When Boris relaxes the restrictions, that's exactly what is going to happen...more lockdowns I'm afraid...All the at serious risk roll be vaccinated by lifting. If we then have deaths all over again in numbers then vax has failed
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:20
I am SO going to give my Brainy and Rich Brother-in-Law a Hard Time next time I see him. :)
Having followed his Wedding Vows to my lovely sister, with a Child's eye. What Happened?
Thing is, when Jean inadvertently caught the wretched Germ, he was up the Street like a flash into rented accomodation. A day of reckoning should follow. Just my opinion. :lol:
See, that's the thing with marrying Brainy and Rich. His brainy brain told him to get the f___ out of there. And nobody got rich by giving a shiney shite about others. When she takes him back his brainy brain will be proved correct again :(
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:24
HAHAHAHA... Looks like Macca's love child!:lol:
Does she have a scouse accent, too?;)
Hmm... With a different hairstyle, clothes, and a damn good wash, she *could* be pumpable!:D
Marco.
She looks like an oven chips-burner to me. That would be a deal-breaker.
mad-moon
14-02-2021, 19:26
All the at serious risk roll be vaccinated by lifting. If we then have deaths all over again in numbers then vax has failed
sorry mate...I must be a bit fick...I don't get it...only 20% of the UK's adult population has been vaccinatad...
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:29
All the at serious risk roll be vaccinated by lifting. If we then have deaths all over again in numbers then vax has failed
Yes that's how I understood Grant's earlier post, and I agree...
All the at serious risk roll be vaccinated by lifting. If we then have deaths all over again in numbers then vax has failed
I often struggle grasping Granty's 'artistically cryptic' word structure [and he knows this, lol], so unfortunately the above makes no sense;)
Marco.
She looks like an oven chips-burner to me. That would be a deal-breaker.
Yes, but she looks potentially 'adventurous', position wise [always a bonus], and may entertain a novel use for nipple clamps, but perhaps also prone to snapping.
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:42
Unfortunately, I often struggle to grasp Granty's 'artistically cryptic' word structure [and he knows this, lol], so unfortunately the above makes no sense;)
Marco.
Interpretation: All those in the high risk categories will be vaccinated by the time the lockdown is lifted. If death rate continues at high rate after that, it'll mean the vaccine has failed.
It was plain as day to me, and I've probably made it worse!
Nope, that clears it up now and makes sense. It was only the highlighted bit I didn't get, which often happens when the auto-correct/predictive text on his phone has a mind of its own!:D
However, the fact that the first bit made sense to you, shows how fucked your head is!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Btw, Piggurs, in the interests of accuracy, I've looked through the thread, and since the post of mine you've mentioned, can see little talk of vaccines. just banter about one thing or the other, until this [referring to 'ID2020'], which reignited the vaccine chat:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]29198[/ATTACHThis couldn’t possibly happen...
So blame Gary!:ner:;)
On looking back, I also noticed there are a few posts I forgot to answer, so will do now:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 19:59
Nope, that clears it up now and makes sense. It was only the highlighted bit I didn't get, which often happens when the auto-correct/predictive text on his phone has a mind of its own!:D
However, the fact that the first bit made sense to you, shows how fucked your head is!:eyebrows:
Marco.
You're not wrong, it is. But I use my charm and good looks to get by :)
Filterlab
14-02-2021, 20:01
What are YOU having for your tea, daftee? You never say, and most importantly, who's cooking it?;)
Five bags of oven chips; m' bird does 'em in the Beko oven.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/31/1a/31311a4a4fa96cf3a4d4418dce97894c.jpg
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 20:05
Five bags of oven chips; m' bird does 'em in the Beko oven.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/31/1a/31311a4a4fa96cf3a4d4418dce97894c.jpg
With nuggets? You've got to have nuggets...
Filterlab
14-02-2021, 20:05
Hmm... With a different hairstyle, clothes, and a damn good wash, she *could* be pumpable!:D
The young lady is Natalie Winter. I've no idea what she does, but I presume modelling is part of it...
https://format-com-cld-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/s--uDdcVKJX--/c_limit,g_center,h_65535,w_1600/fl_keep_iptc.progressive.apng/v1/f20978a1f4b9a267a8c8217d2dbffb63/Screen_Shot_2018-05-01_at_16_31_55.png
Filterlab
14-02-2021, 20:06
With nuggets? You've got to have nuggets...
She certainly looks like one. :lol:
Pigmy Pony
14-02-2021, 20:08
They certainly send her to some exotic locations :)
Filterlab
14-02-2021, 20:08
:lol:
Which fun/nice things are you referring to? Brexit? Black Lives Matter? Climate change? The on-it's-arse economy? I can't wait! :) I may start watching Newsround instead. Is it still John Craven?
Lol, nope...
Hearing about things such as what new films have been released in cinemas, or performances in theatres, which bands are touring or doing music gigs in smaller venues, new and interesting places to go on holiday, the opening of some great new pub or restaurant in the area, the introduction of an interesting and new, non-electric, car (unlikely I know) - just anything that involves the fun or nice things in life, rather than the same old, tedious/humdrum boring shite, for boring humdrum and depressing people, going nowhere, or the latest bullshit agenda that the media want to push!
Just generally more things that promote joie de vivre and a feel-good factor, as unlike many these days, we're in the fortunate position of being able to LIVE, rather than merely exist, and so I'd like see more focus on cheery and positive things on TV, and our needs met more in that respect, than those of the doom and gloom merchants. Essentially, there's WAY too much negativity around at the moment, resulting in many folks having forgotten how to SMILE [anyone who's lost loves ones from Covid excepted].
Will that do?:)
Marco.
The young lady is Natalie Winter. I've no idea what she does, but I presume modelling is part of it...
https://format-com-cld-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/s--uDdcVKJX--/c_limit,g_center,h_65535,w_1600/fl_keep_iptc.progressive.apng/v1/f20978a1f4b9a267a8c8217d2dbffb63/Screen_Shot_2018-05-01_at_16_31_55.png
Lol... A little too 'chiselled' in the face dept (and so a tad hard looking for my tastes), and I hate the hairstyle, but 'interesting' nonetheless. She looks a little naughty, and that's always an attraction.
Marco.
Ellie Bamber [from the BBC One TV drama series 'The Serpent'] is more my thing:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/UvX2kc.jpg
Much 'softer' looking, and more voluptuous/womanly:)
Marco.
Missed this earlier, lol:
It must have been really hard for a free sprit such as yourself, who is bossed by no-one, to choose between a dedicated dressing room for Del, or a snow machine, also for Del. Best get both, to be on the safe side :)
Well, without meaning to sound soppy (and failing miserably), as I've said, I not only love spoiling her; she's definitely *worth* spoiling:)
Oh....And when she says 'want', she means WANT:D
Snow machine duly purchased for next Christmas (and her birthday in December): https://electromarket.co.uk/beamz-snow1800-snow-machine
Marco.
anthonyTD
15-02-2021, 10:48
Virus's are the mechanism of evolution, they [usually] evolve in a linear fashion with us, that's really all there is to it, or should I say was, unfortunately, someone decided it was a good idea to fund laboratories to continue with research and experimentation that most of the modern world agreed should cease, unfortunately this has now led to an exponential leap in the evolution of certain types of virus, that are out of step with OUR evolution, there is a huge amount of information out there from the scientific community referring to this, now, as to what we do, well, we have seen that the majority of healthy people that come into contact with this either have no symptoms, or symptoms vary from insignificant, to moderate, depending hugely on the health and life style of the individual, it has now been estimated that anyone under the age of 70 who is relatively healthy, and fit, the mortality rate can be as low as one tenth of one percent, if that is fact, and I have personally read this information, so again its out there, the first thing people need to look at is; what can I do to maintain, or to boost my health level, secondly, a healthy mind will help enormously towards a healthy body…
Now let’s get back to Marco, telling us all about where he might be going, when he’s able to get back into his chiffons, and sling backs…:eek:
Lol, some good info there, Anthony, for folks to consider.
For me, you have to analyse and consider ALL the info that's out there about this matter, not just that which best appeases your own beliefs, or that doesn't make for uncomfortable reading, as often the real truth (about anything in life) is uncomfortable!
Therefore, for me, it's far better to be properly informed, but concerned, than cocooned within your comfort zone, both kidding yourself on that everything's fine, and oblivious to the truth.
Btw, on a more serious note, regardless of whatever theories we may have about what the future holds, and what role 'the powers that be' will play in that, it's complete bullshit for me for anyone to suggest that Covid is a 'hoax'. It's certainly NOT a hoax, in terms of being a genuine and potentially deadly virus.
We've just watched a hearse take one of our neighbours away, a young girl in her twenties, who otherwise was healthy, and who's just died from Covid, leaving behind three young kids and two distraught parents.
Others who've witnessed the same will know how hard it hits home when you see it up close. We knew this girl, as Del used to make toys and give gifts to the kids, and I sincerely doubt she'd have died so soon from anything else. Just heartbreaking to see...:(
Therefore, given that and the fact that Del was hospitalised with it, including the similar genuine experiences of others here who've been subjected to it, let there be NO mistake - as a deadly virus [clearly quite different from flu] COVID *IS* REAL!!
Marco.
Lol, some good info there, Anthony, for folks to consider.
For me, you have to analyse and consider ALL the info that's out there about this matter, not just that which best appeases your own beliefs, or that doesn't make for uncomfortable reading, as often the real truth (about anything in life) is uncomfortable!
Therefore, for me, it's far better to be properly informed, but concerned, than cocooned within your comfort zone, both kidding yourself on that everything's fine, and oblivious to the truth.
Btw, on a more serious note, regardless of whatever theories we may have about what the future holds, and what role 'the powers that be' will play in that, it's complete bullshit for me for anyone to suggest that Covid is a 'hoax'. It's certainly NOT a hoax, in terms of being a genuine and potentially deadly virus.
We've just watched a hearse take one of our neighbours away, a young girl in her twenties, who otherwise was healthy, and who's just died from Covid, leaving behind three young kids and two distraught parents.
Others who've witnessed the same will know how hard it hits home when you see it up close. We knew this girl, as Del used to make toys and give gifts to the kids, and I sincerely doubt she'd have died so soon from anything else. Just heartbreaking to see...:(
Therefore, given that and the fact that Del was hospitalised with it, including the similar genuine experiences of others here, let there be NO mistake - as a deadly virus [clearly quite different from flu] COVID *IS* REAL!!
Marco.
Indeed.. Sorry to hear that mate... Yes it is very real.
Cheers, mate. Del's quite upset about it.
Marco.
Cheers, mate. Del's quite upset about it.
Marco.She will be. Terrible thing. Poor kids
walpurgis
15-02-2021, 14:39
Indeed.. Sorry to hear that mate... Yes it is very real.
Yes, that's sad.
It's indiscriminate and can strike anybody. Most will get through it, but assuming that all healthy people will be OK or only mildly affected is a potentially deadly mistake.
anthonyTD
15-02-2021, 15:16
Very sad indeed mate,
It just goes to show that if this young girl is diagnosed from passing away as a direct consequence of Covid [and not just labeld with it for convenience] then what i said about keeping yourself healthy really does matter, because whatever it is that is doing this is obviously targeting a wide range of people that may have something in common that many others do not!
Lol, some good info there, Anthony, for folks to consider.
For me, you have to analyse and consider ALL the info that's out there about this matter, not just that which best appeases your own beliefs, or that doesn't make for uncomfortable reading, as often the real truth (about anything in life) is uncomfortable!
Therefore, for me, it's far better to be properly informed, but concerned, than cocooned within your comfort zone, both kidding yourself on that everything's fine, and oblivious to the truth.
Btw, on a more serious note, regardless of whatever theories we may have about what the future holds, and what role 'the powers that be' will play in that, it's complete bullshit for me for anyone to suggest that Covid is a 'hoax'. It's certainly NOT a hoax, in terms of being a genuine and potentially deadly virus.
We've just watched a hearse take one of our neighbours away, a young girl in her twenties, who otherwise was healthy, and who's just died from Covid, leaving behind three young kids and two distraught parents.
Others who've witnessed the same will know how hard it hits home when you see it up close. We knew this girl, as Del used to make toys and give gifts to the kids, and I sincerely doubt she'd have died so soon from anything else. Just heartbreaking to see...:(
Therefore, given that and the fact that Del was hospitalised with it, including the similar genuine experiences of others here who've been subjected to it, let there be NO mistake - as a deadly virus [clearly quite different from flu] COVID *IS* REAL!!
Marco.
hifi_dave
15-02-2021, 16:21
Lol, some good info there, Anthony, for folks to consider.
For me, you have to analyse and consider ALL the info that's out there about this matter, not just that which best appeases your own beliefs, or that doesn't make for uncomfortable reading, as often the real truth (about anything in life) is uncomfortable!
Therefore, for me, it's far better to be properly informed, but concerned, than cocooned within your comfort zone, both kidding yourself on that everything's fine, and oblivious to the truth.
Btw, on a more serious note, regardless of whatever theories we may have about what the future holds, and what role 'the powers that be' will play in that, it's complete bullshit for me for anyone to suggest that Covid is a 'hoax'. It's certainly NOT a hoax, in terms of being a genuine and potentially deadly virus.
We've just watched a hearse take one of our neighbours away, a young girl in her twenties, who otherwise was healthy, and who's just died from Covid, leaving behind three young kids and two distraught parents.
Others who've witnessed the same will know how hard it hits home when you see it up close. We knew this girl, as Del used to make toys and give gifts to the kids, and I sincerely doubt she'd have died so soon from anything else. Just heartbreaking to see...:(
Therefore, given that and the fact that Del was hospitalised with it, including the similar genuine experiences of others here who've been subjected to it, let there be NO mistake - as a deadly virus [clearly quite different from flu] COVID *IS* REAL!!
Marco.Very sad.
Well done Marco for putting it out there. So many smug people think it's like a bad cold or mild Flu and it most certainly isn't. For those susceptible to it, it's a certain killer and the way you die is horrendous.
Very sad indeed mate,
It just goes to show that if this young girl is diagnosed from passing away as a direct consequence of Covid [and not just labeld with it for convenience] then what i said about keeping yourself healthy really does matter, because whatever it is that is doing this is obviously targeting a wide range of people that may have something in common that many others do not!
She died of Covid pneumonia, mate. Same as Del had and was hospitalised with (Del may be only little, but thankfully she's fit and quite tough), only sadly this time fatal. I was chatting to her only last week, and she was fine, so it all happened really quickly to an otherwise seemingly healthy young girl.
Marco.
She died of Covid pneumonia, mate. Same as Del had, only sadly this time fatal. I was chatting to her only last week, and she was fine, so it all happened really quickly.
Marco.
pneumonia can kill quickly.. it did my wife in under a day:rolleyes:
Very sad.
Well done Marco for putting it out there. So many smug people think it's like a bad cold or mild Flu and it most certainly isn't. For those susceptible to it, it's a certain killer and the way you die is horrendous.
No worries, Dave. Just relating some real-life experience that are relevant to the discussion.
Having seen my wife suffer from Covid first-hand, and also her with flu/pneumonia, I can say for definite that Covid is quite different, both in the initial symptoms, how it hits you later, and most significantly the after effects, which Del's still suffering a little from, and which she's never had before with flu, or even swine flu.
Marco.
Heard the other day that a collegue of mine had died of Covid-19. He was taken into hospital towards the end of last year and put on a ventilator/respirator. Sadly he didn't survive. He was in his mid 50s.
Nice to see you checking in, mate (as until recently) you'd been away for about a week (and still haven't been near the mod room), and I was going to phone to see if you were ok!:)
Remember the 'Disappearing for a bit' thread in the mod room? It's there to be USED!:ner:;)
Marco.
Filterlab
15-02-2021, 18:55
pneumonia can kill quickly.. it did my wife in under a day:rolleyes:
Yeah, nasty.
When I had it I felt fine at 6:45pm, at 7pm I thought I was dying. Next day at the GP I was sent immediately to the hospital. I was a couple of percent lung breach away from being critical. Took 1.5 months to get over! Took three years to get my bodily defences back too.
Nasty that.
anthonyTD
16-02-2021, 10:21
Has taken me months to get a decent breath back, still not right, but i am still here, we are amongst the lucky ones i guess! :)
hifi_dave
16-02-2021, 11:41
pneumonia can kill quickly.. it did my wife in under a day:rolleyes:
Really sorry to hear that Grant. Hopefully she didn't suffer.
mad-moon
16-02-2021, 13:44
Just came across this on the Wam...don't know if it's the thoughts of the chap who posted it....but it's a good observation...
People who spread anti-vax misinformation use pseudoscience and lies to perpetuate their conspiracy theories
They are directly responsible for unnecessary deaths.
If you don't understand the true science, please don't spread anti-vax info, you may think you're helping but in reality you are killing people
Depends what you mean by "anti-vax misinformation" (which could be simply mean ANYTHING that isn't deemed as 'pro-vax'), legitimately so or not, plus also "pseudoscience" (which could simply mean anything that doesn't fit with the 'officially approved' version), or "conspiracy theories" (which could simply mean anything that dares to challenge the 'accepted norm');)
It's called free-thinking, Alan, whether you or I agree with what's stated or not - and long may people have the freedom allowing them to do that, rather than be brainwashed into 'obeying' a given dogma, as the creation of such, or a 'herd mentality', where anyone who dares think of behave differently from the masses, is lambasted or alienated, is one of the biggest dangers to our freedoms.
That's why I don't make (arguably) ill-considered, black and white statements (as the guy on the Wam did) when referring to others who may legitimately look at things differently from me, and whose opinions on Coronavirus (or anything else for that matter) are equally as valid :)
However, that said, I should add that I would hold anyone guilty of *deliberately* scaremongering people, by spreading malicious falsehoods about vaccines or anything else to do with the current pandemic, in as deep contempt as I would any authorities or powerful and wealthy individuals, who may be using the current situation to further their nefarious ends - but stifling free speech, no matter how much it offends our sensibilities or otherwise, offers no constructive solution to anything.
Marco.
mad-moon
16-02-2021, 14:37
:fishing::D
Silly boy, if that's all you've got to do with your time. Anything similar in future will simply be removed, as it's tantamount to trolling.
Marco.
mad-moon
16-02-2021, 16:33
Delete it Marco...
mad-moon
16-02-2021, 17:01
Dialled 119 10.30 this morning...to see about our Covid 19 jab..as the missus and me are high risk..No one had contacted us, was the reason for using the 119 number...We were told by the guy on the phone that we were not eligible, but ring back in a couple of days, as the eligibility may have changed and their database might be updated by then. 15.01 this afternoon, the docs rang and asked us if we'd like to go for our covid jab Thursday coming... Thought it was looking like we'd have to wait until the end of May...a strange coincidence..
Delete it Marco...
Nah, it's cool. Look, you know I'm always up for some banter, but shit like that, dude, ain't funny, so it'll serve as a warning for any other daftee who's thinking of trying the same!:ner:;)
Marco.
Dialled 119 10.30 this morning...to see about our Covid 19 jab..as the missus and me are high risk..No one had contacted us, was the reason for using the 119 number...We were told by the guy on the phone that we were not eligible, but ring back in a couple of days, as the eligibility may have changed and their database might be updated by then. 15.01 this afternoon, the docs rang and asked us if we'd like to go for our covid jab Thursday coming... Thought it was looking like we'd have to wait until the end of May...a strange coincidence..
england just added 1.7m people to the at risk jab bit so might be that
walpurgis
16-02-2021, 17:11
I'd been nagging my wife to arrange her jab. She phoned the GP at 3pm and was told to turn up at the local community centre at 3.50. It's a seven minute walk and she was jabbed and sorted by ten past four. Pretty expedient!
I'd been nagging my wife to arrange her jab. She phoned the GP at 3pm and was told to turn up at the local community centre at 3.50. It's a seven minute walk and she was jabbed and sorted by ten past four. Pretty expedient!
good to hear geoff.. will help you too
rmcin626
16-02-2021, 17:24
The wife and I have both had our first jag.
Jag? What was it they gave you, and nice XJS with leather seats, or a poke with thorny stick?:D
Marco.
Dialled 119 10.30 this morning...to see about our Covid 19 jab..as the missus and me are high risk..No one had contacted us, was the reason for using the 119 number...We were told by the guy on the phone that we were not eligible, but ring back in a couple of days, as the eligibility may have changed and their database might be updated by then. 15.01 this afternoon, the docs rang and asked us if we'd like to go for our covid jab Thursday coming... Thought it was looking like we'd have to wait until the end of May...a strange coincidence..
Always good to hear of folks close to home getting their jabs and protection. Both my parents had theirs in the last few weeks too.
mad-moon
16-02-2021, 20:27
Always good to hear of folks close to home getting their jabs and protection. Both my parents had theirs in the last few weeks too.
It is good that vulnerable people are being vaccinated, however, there are front line workers, who are not getting it quickly enough..Police,..and before someone starts up about the police, I'm no real fan either and my future son in-law is a copper, but we need law and order and these, are the best we've got, so give them a bit skinch... teachers and fire service should be up there too...I understand they are being brought to the fore..but it's at a very slow pace..imho....The young'un says April before the cops get a look in..although he tells me they are contacted occasionally when there are no shows...
rmcin626
17-02-2021, 08:47
Jag? What was it they gave you, and nice XJS with leather seats, or a poke with thorny stick?:D
Marco.
You’ve been down south too long Marco, vaccinations in Scotland are know as jags not jabs.
Lol - probably, but mainly because I've only ever had one in my life, so not 'used' to the term in any language!:D
Marco.
maybe in west, but its mostly jab here where i am.
rmcin626
17-02-2021, 09:10
maybe in west, but its mostly jab here where i am.
Probably stems from jaggy - anything sharp or pointed.
Pigmy Pony
17-02-2021, 19:24
Lol - probably, but mainly because I've only ever had one in my life, so not 'used' to the term in any language!:D
Marco.
That's no excuse - I've never had the clap, not even once, but I'm aware of the term, through the power of hearing, and my ability to read :)
Only one jag in 50-odd years, have you never had a tetanus jab? You really should have.
That's no excuse - I've never had the clap, not even once, but I'm aware of the term, through the power of hearing, and my ability to read :)
Only one jag in 50-odd years, have you never had a tetanus jab? You really should have.
Lol... Nope, never needed one. I've really injured myself much (or broken any limbs/abused my body), as I've always been fairly risk averse when it comes to my health (hence my reticence in having this vaccine), and indeed health conscious, so the only jab, jag or prick:D I've had was a BCG one (for TB) when I was 15...
Certainly hasn't done me any harm, as I could scarcely be healthier, physically or mentally - or for that matter, dafter!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
17-02-2021, 20:04
Lol... Nope, never needed one. I've really injured myself much (or broken any limbs/abused my body), as I've always been fairly risk averse when it comes to my health (hence my reticence in having this vaccine), and indeed health conscious, so only the only jab, jag or prick:D I've had was a BCG one (for TB) when I was 15...
Certainly hasn't done me any harm, as I could scarcely be healthier, physically or mentally - or for that matter, dafter!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Abused your body? Why on earth would you say that? What did you have in mind? So, no broken bones, no fighting, no stitches? Did you ever leave the house? Thinking back on my life, with the motorbikes, swimming in rivers, silly stunts on buildings and scaffolds as a kid I should be dead several times over :eek:
But the worst was when I was 12, and a tunnel I was digging collapsed on me, but I managed to pull myself out. A week later the same tunnel did the same to my friend, who didn't survive. That was a bad time, his mum and dad never got over it.
I'll stop now as I'm getting a bit dark, probably due to a good friend passing on Monday.
Abused your body? Why on earth would you say that? What did you have in mind? So, no broken bones, no fighting, no stitches? Did you ever leave the house? Thinking back on my life, with the motorbikes, swimming in rivers, silly stunts on buildings and scaffolds as a kid I should be dead several times over :eek:
Exactly what you've mentioned! A few fights in school, but I usually won (as I was bigger and stronger than most), so others invariably came off worst:D
But nope, never needed stitches or broken any bones... Largely always been careful with my body, plus being an only child from Italian parents, who by tradition are *very* protective, up until I was about 14, I wasn't much out of my parents' sight. who always wanted to know where I was, who I was with and what I was doing, and I was pretty obedient, as my dad was strict, so would've got belted for having got into any trouble!
From 15 into my 20s though, it was the opposite - I got up to all sorts!!:eek::eyebrows: But thankfully, largely avoided injuring myself, even falling off my motorbike a few times (stoned on mushies and goodness knows what else), plus a house roof!, just cuts and bruises. Lucky, yes, but I was generally pretty careful, at least when I wasn't under the influence of any substances!
But the worst was when I was 12, and a tunnel I was digging collapsed on me, but I managed to pull myself out. A week later the same tunnel did the same to my friend, who didn't survive. That was a bad time, his mum and dad never got over it.
I'll stop now as I'm getting a bit dark, probably due to a good friend passing on Monday.
Yup, no doubt mate, and sorry to hear that, and also about your friend who's passed away. Just makes you realise how precious life is, and how much we need to make the most of it and the time we spend with our friends and loved ones.
Marco.
Steve is right Marco, I am amazed that you have never had an inoculation for tetanus, you really should have one - the bacteria is all over the place and it doesn't take a "major wound" to get infected, agricultural workers were particularly at risk through even small wounds from thorns, rusty tools etc.
Well, unless I had one when I was a baby (is that likely?) then I can say defo no. Just asked Del if she's had one, and that was also a negative, so there you go!
And I stay well clear of rusty tools:D
Marco.
You would have got them at school. Often 3 of them at different ages, but if you cut yourself it could still reappear. Worth you both getting boosters.
mad-moon
18-02-2021, 01:30
It's a real nasty infection is Tetanus....a booster is recommended every 10 years..and some doctors recommend every 5 years
You would have got them at school. Often 3 of them at different ages, but if you cut yourself it could still reappear. Worth you both getting boosters.In fact it was part of the four in one jab you get as a baby. You should then get another tetanus at school primary 1 and secondary 1.
The baby one was I think measles, rubella, tetanus and meningitis.
Obviously dependent on your age. Measles was about 68. Men was a bit later.
My wife's brother died of it..
Other illnesses you get or at least got were whooping cough, polio, diphtheria etc.
Amazing the risks to babies that were removed by vaccines.
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 07:03
Well, unless I had one when I was a baby (is that likely?) then I can say defo no. Just asked Del if she's had one, and that was also a negative, so there you go!
And I stay well clear of rusty tools:D
Marco.
Maybe we're asking the wrong questions. Have you ever had an oil change or software upgrade? :D
Firebottle
18-02-2021, 07:11
Maybe we're asking the wrong questions. Have you ever had an oil change or software upgrade? :D
:rfl:
Good one Steve. Maybe needing a different procedure:
Mechanical Android Requires Complete Overhaul
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 07:28
:rfl:
Good one Steve. Maybe needing a different procedure:
Mechanical Android Requires Complete Overhaul
:lol: I think we're on to something here. I know he was talking about solar recently, so we may have to wait an hour or so before we ask him :)
Marco, both yourself and Del should arrange an appointment as soon as possible for the tetanus jab.
I remember that you were saying that you were getting in to gardening to help with self sufficiency and even the smallest wound provides an opportunity for infection - it would only take a little prick, even if your tool isn't rusty :)
You would have got them at school. Often 3 of them at different ages, but if you cut yourself it could still reappear. Worth you both getting boosters.
Only jab I ever got at school, as I've said mate, was a BCG jab, otherwise I'd almost certainly I'd have remembered:)
Marco.
Maybe we're asking the wrong questions. Have you ever had an oil change or software upgrade? :D
HAHA, very good... Just being truthful. It's not necessary for us all to have had the same life experiences or medical history, is it?:ner:
Should I just lie instead and say 'yes' to everything you think I should've had or done, to shut you up?:D
Marco.
Marco, both yourself and Del should arrange an appointment as soon as possible for the tetanus jab.
I remember that you were saying that you were getting in to gardening to help with self sufficiency and even the smallest wound provides an opportunity for infection - it would only take a little prick, even if your tool isn't rusty :)
Lol... Don't you think if I've been able to reach the age of 55, with no issues, despite having had numerous cuts and wounds throughout my life, including a nasty dog bite on my arse (when I was in a sales job and entered a scrapyard, where unbeknown to me, the resident guard dogs were roaming loose, and I had to run for it, but ended up being bitten), yet healed up fine without treatment, I'm probably going to be ok?;)
In any case, even if by some strange miracle, I've managed to remember the BCG jab I received, but forgotten about the tetanus one, then I've only ever had two 'jabs' in my life, certainly no more:)
Marco.
I was bitten by a dog when I was about nine, had to have a tetanus jab in my backside (one in each cheek). Despite the nurse telling me not to tense, I did on the second injection, hell of a job getting the needle out :lol:
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 17:56
HAHA, very good... Just being truthful. It's not necessary for us all to have had the same life experiences or medical history, is it?:ner:
Should I just lie instead and say 'yes' to everything you think I should've had or done, to shut you up?:D
Marco.
Well in the case of child vaccinations, it sort of is. These things will have been rolled out nationwide, and i can't think why your school would have said no thanks. Unless your folks kept you away from school on those particular days. I was thinking you may be mis-remembering - your dad may have the answer.
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 17:59
Should I just lie instead and say 'yes' to everything you think I should've had or done, to shut you up?:D
Marco.
Have you not sussed yet that I sometimes do that very thing? :ner:
Polio vaccine was on a sugar lump when I had it. Some others might have been too, not every vaccine is an injection.
I don't think I had any injections until I had a tetanus when I cut myself on rusty barbed wire and I think that was age about 20.
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 18:07
including a nasty dog bite on my arse (when I was in a sales job and entered a scrapyard, where unbeknown to me, the resident guard dogs were roaming loose, and I had to run for it, but ended up being bitten), yet healed up fine without treatment, I'm probably going to be ok?;)
Marco.
:eek: I hope the dog survived its ordeal. Hopefully it had a responsible owner who kept up with its vaccinations.
So what were you selling to the scrappy? Copper? You can get good money for copper :)
Well in the case of child vaccinations, it sort of is. These things will have been rolled out nationwide, and i can't think why your school would have said no thanks. Unless your folks kept you away from school on those particular days. I was thinking you may be mis-remembering - your dad may have the answer.
It's certainly not impossible that I may have forgotten about the 'joy' of having a tetanus jab at school. Therefore, if so, the sum total of such I've had in 55 years will be 2:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 18:31
I was bitten by a dog when I was about nine, had to have a tetanus jab in my backside (one in each cheek). Despite the nurse telling me not to tense, I did on the second injection, hell of a job getting the needle out :lol:
Oh yes, if you don't relax your muscle it can be quite brutal :(
:eek: I hope the dog survived its ordeal. Hopefully it had a responsible owner who kept up with its vaccinations.
So what were you selling to the scrappy? Copper? You can get good money for copper :)
I know... As you can well imagine my first thought was for the poor dog. Worst was, I'd shat myself after being chased by two Rottweilers, which my arse was caked in, so it bit into a pool of my primo-pure skitters:(
Amazingly though it survived, but I believe was rendered blind...
No it was the precursor to the picture-framing/art business I ended up starting myself. Beforehand I used to work for a company doing the same, and where during the day you cold-called business premises to sell stuff (essentially a van dropped you off in an industrial estate in the morning and collected you around 4pm), and you just sold to anyone you could. Then from 5-10pm you did residential stuff.
Bloody hard and often soul-destroying work in all weathers, on commission only too, but I became rather good it (and it certainly further honed my sales skills), and earned pretty decent money (averaging around £400 a week, cash in hand, for a then 24-year old). subsequently learning the business and then doing the same myself, a few years later, employing my own sales team, then developing the business from there on the corporate side, winning some big hotel and pub contracts (for supplying artwork for the public areas and bedrooms), and the rest is history!:cool:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
18-02-2021, 18:51
I know... As you can well imagine my first thought was for the poor dog. Worst was, I'd shat myself after being chased by two Rottweilers, which my arse was caked in, so it bit into a pool of my primo-pure skitters:(
Amazingly though it survived, but I believe was rendered blind...
No it was the precursor to the picture-framing/art business I ended up starting myself. Beforehand I used to work for a company doing the same, and where during the day you cold-called business premises to sell stuff (essentially a van dropped you off in an industrial estate in the morning and collected you around 4pm), and you just sold to anyone you could. Then from 5-10pm you did residential stuff.
Bloody hard and often soul-destroying work in all weathers, on commission only too, but I became rather good it (and it certainly further honed my sales skills), and earned pretty decent money (averaging around £400 a week, cash in hand, for a then 24-year old). subsequently learning the business and then doing the same myself, a few years later, employing my own sales team, then developing the business from there on the corporate side, winning some big hotel and pub contracts (for supplying artwork for the public areas and bedrooms), and the rest is history!:cool:
Marco.
Did you sell any prints of dogs playing pool? They were quite popular in the 80's I think :) There was another one where they were playing poker.
Lol - I was still in school in the 80s (well until 84). This was in the early 90s.
I know the prints you mean, but I don't think so. It was mostly images based on specific themes and colour schemes, working with interior designers, etc, and travelling all over the UK, I enjoyed it a lot:)
Marco.
Under ancient English Common Law, should Marco and his Wrexham Taffy anti-vax Covid-19 friends ever turn up in our fine English Shrewsbury Town...
Like Chester. We are entitlled to shoot them with a Bow and Arrow. Personally, I'd use a modern longer distance rifle. A matter of common-sense. :lol:
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Under English Common Law, should Marco and his Wrexham Taffy anti-vax Covid-19 friends ever turn up in our fine English Shrewsbury Town...
Like Chester. We are entitlled to shoot them with a Bow and Arrow. Personally, I'd use a modern longer distance rifle. A matter of common-sense. :lol:
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I thought that was only after the city gates had been closed and locked at sundown.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-is-up-to-85-effective-after-first-dose-new-israeli-study-finds-12222164
Israel study of vaccine shows it works
I thought that was only after the city gates had been closed and locked at sundown.
with "night sight" then :)
Under ancient English Common Law, should Marco and his Wrexham Taffy anti-vax Covid-19 friends ever turn up in our fine English Shrewsbury Town...
Like Chester. We are entitlled to shoot them with a Bow and Arrow. Personally, I'd use a modern longer distance rifle. A matter of common-sense. :lol:
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Ha - very good! But importantly, I've told others and you before, so please let it SINK in... I AM NOT (fundamentally by nature) 'ANTI-VAX'; I'm simply anti having *this specific one for Covid*, for legitimate reasons already given, and which I presume you've read?
And so there is a difference! Therefore, the next person to incorrectly label me as 'anti-vax' will getting a severe virtual spanking:spank::spank:
;)
Marco.
mad-moon
19-02-2021, 09:22
Meaning of anti-vaxxer.....pay attention to the second paragraph....I don't think Marco is an anti-vaxxer
Some people might simply be a bit unsure about whether or not they want one.
There are also people who are against vaccinations - they're known as 'anti-vaxxers' - and are part of the anti-vaccination movement.
Indeed, Alan, and I'm not part of any such 'movement'. Wouldn't interest me one iota! This is a one-off, as I've never before felt it necessary to take such a stance.
Basically, if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider that *I* need vaccinated for something, and if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider it as safe, then I'll have it, and if not, I won't. And I won't bow to anyone who doesn't like or agree with my stance.
Simples... It's called having a mind of your own, and the confidence to follow that, rather than succumbing to peer pressure, simply to comply with 'official advice', or fit in with the masses:)
Marco [always and forever an individual, not merely a number].
mad-moon
19-02-2021, 10:12
Indeed, Alan, and I'm not part of any such 'movement'. Wouldn't interest me one iota! This is a one-off, as I've never before felt it necessary to take such a stance.
Basically, if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider that *I* need vaccinated for something, and if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider it as safe, then I'll have it, and if not, I won't. And I won't bow to anyone who doesn't like or agree with my stance.
Simples... It's called having a mind of your own, and the confidence to follow that, rather than succumb to peer pressure, simply to comply with 'official advice', or fit in with the masses:)
Marco [always and forever an individual, not merely a number].
Unfortunately Marco., this day and age, when it comes right down to the nitty gritty, the powers that be consider us all, to be just a number.
Well, they can consider it, but it doesn't mean you have to BE it, or certainly succumb to being it, or LIVE it, without a fight!!;)
You can also be a 'number' without being part of the masses/sheep. I've always sought to divorce myself from the latter, as I've never had a 'mainstream mentality', so tend not to fit in with mindset of the masses.
Marco.
Lol - I was still in school in the 80s (well until 84). This was in the early 90s.
I know the prints you mean, but I don't think so. It was mostly images based on specific themes and colour schemes, working with interior designers, etc, and travelling all over the UK, I enjoyed it a lot:)
Marco.
You must have been an OLD school boy ;)
Yeah, 17 I think. Stayed until 6th year to do my SYS exams. Actually, on reflection, it was end of 82, not 84.
How old are you, Brian?:)
Marco.
Excellent News for my 80-y-o old British Army mate, Chelsea. AKA Pensioner Lawrence.
Having (bravely) not payed his Poll Tax back in the Thatcher years, he has always ducked under the Radar. Never registers to Vote.
But has lately become worried about COVID-19.
Decided to get a jab. Registered with a Doctor. Within an hour they have made him an appointment. :)
He gets his jab at 3.15 PM next Tuesday at the old Eastney Police station in Highland Road. Now a Health centre.
Whether it will help his football team (Chelsea) remains to be seen. :lol:
No-one paid that poll tax, it was great until all those idiots went on that demo in London that turned into a riot and they brought the rates back in under different name.
If they'd just have shut up about it we'd all still be getting away with it. Talk about naïve.
mad-moon
19-02-2021, 13:01
No-one paid that poll tax, it was great until all those idiots went on that demo in London that turned into a riot and they brought the rates back in under different name.
If they'd just have shut up about it we'd all still be getting away with it. Talk about naïve.
I was thinking more along the lines of fuckin' thick
Stryder5
19-02-2021, 14:09
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-is-up-to-85-effective-after-first-dose-new-israeli-study-finds-12222164
Israel study of vaccine shows it works
Read the report, it doesn’t show the vaccine works in the general population, but with a chosen group not conducive to real world. No standard group concurrent.
Full of ifs, buts, assumptions and maybe’s.
States “peer reviewed” but no disclosure of how and by whom.
No testing protocol outlined.
If this was the whole of the study it’s so full of holes it’s unworthy.
Gary
How old are you, Brian?:)
:wave: :popcorn:
Or is it a big secret?;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
19-02-2021, 16:54
Therefore, the next person to incorrectly label me as 'anti-vax' will getting a severe virtual spanking:spank::spank:
;)
Marco.
Anti-vax Anti-vax Anti-vax! :booty::booty: Seriously, no one really thinks you're anti-vax, they're just winding you up, knowing how strongly you feel about it :) mischievous little imps
Pigmy Pony
19-02-2021, 17:26
Indeed, Alan, and I'm not part of any such 'movement'. Wouldn't interest me one iota! This is a one-off, as I've never before felt it necessary to take such a stance.
Basically, if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider that *I* need vaccinated for something, and if using MY judgement criteria, *I* consider it as safe, then I'll have it, and if not, I won't. And I won't bow to anyone who doesn't like or agree with my stance.
Simples... It's called having a mind of your own, and the confidence to follow that, rather than succumbing to peer pressure, simply to comply with 'official advice', or fit in with the masses:)
Marco [always and forever an individual, not merely a number].
I'm booked to have my vaccination next Tuesday, as I don't have a mind of my own :D
Steve [from now on I want to be called number 94463789] :)
I'm booked to have my vaccination next Tuesday, as I don't have a mind of my own :D
Yes you have, as you've made that choice from your own free will:)
Anyway, hope it all goes well:cool:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
19-02-2021, 18:20
Yes you have, as you've made that choice from your own free will:)
Anyway, hope it all goes well:cool:
Marco.
Ah but have I, or do they want me to think I have? :eyebrows:
Cheers anyway - I'm going to be a doc-botherer in the coming weeks. April sees me having an annual blood-pressure check (2 years since that last one) and two days after that a consultation over a carcinoma thingy on me face. Got one starting on the other side too, now. Bugger. I'll end up looking like Sly Stallone's mum :(
Nightmare, mate, hope it all gets sorted as quickly and as painlessly as possible... What about that big bulbous, watery boil on yer bum? Needs syringing, me thinks:D:eyebrows:
Marco.
I'm booked to have my vaccination next Tuesday, as I don't have a mind of my own :D
Steve [from now on I want to be called number 94463789] :)
"I am not a number - I'm a free man!"
Stryder5
19-02-2021, 18:44
"I am not a number - I'm a free man!"
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mad-moon
19-02-2021, 20:26
"I am not a number - I'm a free man!"
then, you woke up...
then, you woke up...
Yes to find myself wearing my old school blazer and driving a Mini Moke, and where the doors of the houses opened automatically when you approached to enter.
Better in tweeds. 3 piece tho with accoutrements.
Pigmy Pony
20-02-2021, 06:32
Nightmare, mate, hope it all gets sorted as quickly and as painlessly as possible... What about that big bulbous, watery boil on yer bum? Needs syringing, me thinks:D:eyebrows:
Marco.
:D
:D I don't mind that boil, it's quite comfortable - it's like taking a cushion everywhere with me :)
Pigmy Pony
20-02-2021, 06:37
Yes to find myself wearing my old school blazer and driving a Mini Moke, and where the doors of the houses opened automatically when you approached to enter.
Not such a bad life - just don't try to escape, or you'll have Marco chasing you down the beach to bring you back :D
Not such a bad life -
I don't know about that. The Moke was desperately under-powered.
Filterlab
20-02-2021, 07:37
...just don't try to escape, or you'll have Marco chasing you down the beach to bring you back :D
Only when he's finished playing with his beach ball though.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2017/08/18/TELEMMGLPICT000137577656_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq0TrNs pzLiqItVcUZLpZHegLAO3oYeUItLnNLiuBiSoY.jpeg
RUNAWAY!!
https://i.imgur.com/dLrLzY2.jpg
walpurgis
20-02-2021, 09:48
Balls! :)
Filterlab
20-02-2021, 09:50
:lol:
how to escape "the leader" aka Marco's compound:eyebrows:
https://youtu.be/hCRRzoRfUXk
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-oxford-jab-more-effective-when-doses-are-delivered-three-months-apart-study-finds-12222938
Re the Oxford vaccine
cool counter on the page; certainly puts in to context how hard people are working on vaccinations.
Stryder5
20-02-2021, 11:11
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-oxford-jab-more-effective-when-doses-are-delivered-three-months-apart-study-finds-12222938
Re the Oxford vaccine
Yet again, could, would, maybe’s. words inferring efficacy that’s based on PCR tests.
Gary
cool counter on the page; certainly puts in to context how hard people are working on vaccinations.
yes, closing in on 17mil now.. :) my sister, brother in law and sister in law all had theirs this week.
hifi_dave
20-02-2021, 16:07
yes, closing in on 17mil now.. :) my sister, brother in law and sister in law all had theirs this week.
Have you had yours yet Grant ?
Have you had yours yet Grant ?
no, not yet dave. not really expecting it.. might get asked to a centre next month but i wont be able to go as i cant wear a mask. sure eventually the nurse will come out to me as she did with flu. if not then im stuck for a while. im insitutionalised in a way now sadly. my area is way too high again anyway so i wont be going into community anytime soon.
another week and that is a year in solitary:eek:
hifi_dave
20-02-2021, 17:41
Bugger. Sorry to hear that.
Would you be able to phone the surgery and get a vaccination at home earlier ?
Pigmy Pony
20-02-2021, 18:01
I don't know about that. The Moke was desperately under-powered.
It would be a bit slow after his Lotus 7, but the village was two thirds normal size, so the Moke would seem 33% faster.
Stryder5
20-02-2021, 18:14
It would be a bit slow after his Lotus 7, but the village was two thirds normal size, so the Moke would seem 33% faster.
I thought The Prisoner (original) was filmed in Portmeirion ?
Gary
Pigmy Pony
20-02-2021, 18:38
It was. Designed and built by architect Sir Clough Williams-Ellis in a Mediterranean style about 2/3 full size. Beautiful little place, I'd highly recommend a visit. You might even get yourself a Number 6 badge :)
Filterlab
20-02-2021, 18:40
It's the most bizarre place to walk around. Great day out.
Fun fact:
The Gift Shop there was the outside filming location for No.6’s apartment.
Strong recommend for a visit there, really fun place, more so if your a fan of the show.
Got the white vinyl of music for prisoner. Used to have the dvd set but it went somewhere. Maybe the boy, although I do have the cards that came with it
Musics fab,
very 60’s trippy.
walpurgis
22-02-2021, 18:37
The Covid restrictions are to be progressively relaxed following this current so called 'final lockdown'.
Personally, regardless of the vaccination programme, I think we'll see another rise in infections later in the year. It'll be caused by younger people mingling without caution as before, they won't learn and don't care. They've not been vaccinated yet and I expect many won't even bother.
Vaccination will probably make things safer for older folk though, but I wouldn't rule out the need for another lockdown.
Filterlab
22-02-2021, 19:57
To be frank I'm so sick and tired of this lockdown crap I couldn't care less what people do going forward. I'm also worn out with reading about it too. If infections spike again then big deal, a lockdown rollercoaster will never work.
Vaccine / no vaccine; it's up to each person what they do and nobody has a right to demand that any person should have one if they don't want.
I've deleted my Apple News app as the tiresome daily articles were the same sh*t over and over again reporting absolutely nothing new. The media have been worse than ever through this debacle, and have done nothing but scaremongering and enflaming fear for little reason.
Bollocks to coronavirus.
The Vinyl Adventure
22-02-2021, 20:06
To be frank I'm so sick and tired of this lockdown crap I couldn't care less what people do going forward. I'm also worn out with reading about it too. If infections spike again then big deal, a lockdown rollercoaster will never work.
Vaccine / no vaccine; it's up to each person what they do and nobody has a right to demand that any person should have one if they don't want.
I've deleted my Apple News app as the tiresome daily articles were the same sh*t over and over again reporting absolutely nothing new. The media have been worse than ever through this debacle, and have done nothing but scaremongering and enflaming fear for little reason.
Bollocks to coronavirus.
That's the best post I have seen anywhere (I don't read newspapers or watch the news) and I only came across it cos I was reading about Kebworth LOL
I will just also add Bollox to Brexit as thats a shitfest too!
Filterlab
22-02-2021, 21:06
I will just also add Bollox to Brexit as thats a shitfest too!
Yep. Could have been so clean and simple, but trust our government to bollocks it all up. :lol:
Pierre De Grenoble
22-02-2021, 22:32
To be frank I'm so sick and tired of this lockdown crap I couldn't care less what people do going forward. I'm also worn out with reading about it too. If infections spike again then big deal, a lockdown rollercoaster will never work.
Vaccine / no vaccine; it's up to each person what they do and nobody has a right to demand that any person should have one if they don't want.
I've deleted my Apple News app as the tiresome daily articles were the same sh*t over and over again reporting absolutely nothing new. The media have been worse than ever through this debacle, and have done nothing but scaremongering and enflaming fear for little reason.
Bollocks to coronavirus.
I sincerely hope that you don't get it and / or have a rough time or even die from it.
Stryder5
23-02-2021, 09:02
To be frank I'm so sick and tired of this lockdown crap I couldn't care less what people do going forward. I'm also worn out with reading about it too. If infections spike again then big deal, a lockdown rollercoaster will never work.
Vaccine / no vaccine; it's up to each person what they do and nobody has a right to demand that any person should have one if they don't want.
I've deleted my Apple News app as the tiresome daily articles were the same sh*t over and over again reporting absolutely nothing new. The media have been worse than ever through this debacle, and have done nothing but scaremongering and enflaming fear for little reason.
Bollocks to coronavirus.
:clapclapclap::clapclapclap:
Gary
Guys, I'm not taking sides here, as I can sympathise with elements of all the views that have been expressed, but let's just remember that this is a sensitive subject and that many people have died and lost loved ones as a result of this virus.
Therefore, it's not really the place for backslapping viewpoints that others may find offensive, and so I'd ask that everyone shows due consideration for that fact and tries to be a little more considerate. Ta!:)
Marco.
mad-moon
23-02-2021, 11:04
The Covid restrictions are to be progressively relaxed following this current so called 'final lockdown'.
Personally, regardless of the vaccination programme, I think we'll see another rise in infections later in the year. It'll be caused by younger people mingling without caution as before, they won't learn and don't care. They've not been vaccinated yet and I expect many won't even bother.
Vaccination will probably make things safer for older folk though, but I wouldn't rule out the need for another lockdown.
This is absolute madness..full lockdown should be kept in place until at the very least, all of the adult population has been vaccinated.
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