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Alex_UK
27-06-2022, 20:30
Really bad news, Forces TV channel is closing down on 30th June.

That is bad news, although I don't watch it very often I do record the odd show. Seems they're moving back to their core role as a military charity. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/forces-tv-is-closing

Macca
27-06-2022, 21:28
I hope someone else picks up their shows, the good ones anyway, I'm not going to miss 'Surgical Spirit.'

Now we're pretty much going to be reduced to just ITV4 and Talking Pictures for proper telly.

struth
28-06-2022, 08:45
I hope someone else picks up their shows, the good ones anyway, I'm not going to miss 'Surgical Spirit.'

Now we're pretty much going to be reduced to just ITV4 and Talking Pictures for proper telly.

Nichola McAuliffe was scary:eek:

Macca
28-06-2022, 09:10
Not as scary as the fact that show ran for seven series. It's so bad I can't even watch a couple of minutes of it.

Funny how some shows have improved with age, I mean 'Return Of The Saint' was crappy back in 1979 (except for the theme tune and opening title sequence ofc) yet still, compared to modern shows, it's not that bad. But I'd rather watch the 'Woke Cops With Issues' modern BBC shite than sit through an episode of 'Surgical Spirit'.

Macca
28-06-2022, 09:12
Just to clarify I would never watch 'Woke Cops With Issues' either unless you were to put a gun to my head and force me to make a choice.

struth
28-06-2022, 09:19
Just to clarify I would never watch 'Woke Cops With Issues' either unless you were to put a gun to my head and force me to make a choice.

not worth paying the licence fee.. i buy what i want on file and have prime etc free stuff (mostly guff) as back up. ive my dvds on hdd and my blurays too. at least what i watch is good to me irrellevent how often i watch it. thats the proof of a good show or film to me.

Macca
28-06-2022, 09:20
Actually saying that I did watch one episode of something terrible when I visited my mother. A serial killer was on the loose, as usual, and the woke cops with issues had to track him down.

Lots of mediocre actors saying serious things in serious tone of voice. Strong female cop who shows her fragile side but only to emphasise how professional and capable she is to overcome it.

The problem with these things is I don't care about the people who are being murdered and I don't care about the people trying to catch him as they are all so one-dimensional. I end up rooting for the serial killer to carry on and do some more murders.

Macca
28-06-2022, 09:26
not worth paying the licence fee.. i buy what i want on file and have prime etc free stuff (mostly guff) as back up. ive my dvds on hdd and my blurays too. at least what i watch is good to me irrellevent how often i watch it. thats the proof of a good show or film to me.

yes, repeated watching is the true test. I've got loads of DVDs but I find it more fun to watch things that are broadcast, makes it more special somehow than picking something from a library, whether it's physical on a shelf or on a streaming service. I will end up going that way, though, as broadcast TV just gets worse and worse.

struth
28-06-2022, 09:31
yes, repeated watching is the true test. I've got loads of DVDs but I find it more fun to watch things that are broadcast, makes it more special somehow than picking something from a library, whether it's physical on a shelf or on a streaming service. I will end up going that way, though, as broadcast TV just gets worse and worse.

im opposite. hated being tied to a time to watch summat. used to record everything but that was tiresome too as it often didnt appear for whatever reason. tennis player split his shorts so we are staying with this sort of shit. your program youve been waiting for all week will be crammed into a tight schedule at some other time where you'll miss it.;)

Macca
28-06-2022, 10:05
im opposite. hated being tied to a time to watch summat. used to record everything but that was tiresome too as it often didnt appear for whatever reason. tennis player split his shorts so we are staying with this sort of shit. your program youve been waiting for all week will be crammed into a tight schedule at some other time where you'll miss it.;)

I have occasionally taped a programme then when I come to watch it, it's a totally different programme from what was advertised. That's annoying, it only seems to happen on the crappier cable channels though.

Even worse are programmes with the same name as something good, or crappy remakes that keep the same name. You tape 'The Taking of Pelham 123' and when you come to watch it find out it's the dismal John Travolta version. Or you tape 'UFO' only to discover that it's a documentary series with the same name and not the classic 1969 show you were hoping to see.

Macca
28-06-2022, 10:10
Cutting is a problem too. They cut all the stripper shows out of early 'Minder' episodes, and that bit in 'The Sweeny' where you see Diane Keene's jugs.

There's also a whole episode of 'The Professionals' that they never show, the one where we find out that Bodie is a racist, even though other episodes make it clear that he isn't.

And 'Porridge' where they blur the page 3 girls that are pinned up on the cell wall. Tragic beyond belief.

Macca
28-06-2022, 10:16
Watched the last half of 'The Spy Who Loved Me' the other night, there's a bit where they break into the control room on the tanker and slaughter all the technicians. That was cut almost completely. Bond shouts 'Cease fire' but they haven't actually fired at all, then you see all these blokes lying dead. How did that happen then? Just makes no sense.

struth
28-06-2022, 10:23
Watched the last half of 'The Spy Who Loved Me' the other night, there's a bit where they break into the control room on the tanker and slaughter all the technicians. That was cut almost completely. Bond shouts 'Cease fire' but they haven't actually fired at all, then you see all these blokes lying dead. How did that happen then? Just makes no sense.

one of the things i like about my collection is they ar usually uncut and sometimes retro refitted with the cuts that were made to get a rating from censors. woke tv and film reshowing is the equ of burning books. it must be fought tooth and nail

struth
28-06-2022, 10:40
Cutting is a problem too. They cut all the stripper shows out of early 'Minder' episodes, and that bit in 'The Sweeny' where you see Diane Keene's jugs.

There's also a whole episode of 'The Professionals' that they never show, the one where we find out that Bodie is a racist, even though other episodes make it clear that he isn't.

And 'Porridge' where they blur the page 3 girls that are pinned up on the cell wall. Tragic beyond belief.

not the strippers? :eek: that was what the show was all about...strippers:)

Macca
28-06-2022, 10:42
not the strippers? :eek: that was what the show was all about...strippers:)

Strippers, fighting, dodgy deals, and putting one over on the law. Proper entertainment, no stupid message.

Macca
29-06-2022, 15:41
This Aviva ad where they are teetering on the rocks crossing a stream - which is quite clearly no more than an inch deep. From the look on the woman's face you'd think she was swinging over the Grand Canyon on a trapeze.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSeZDglqpes

Pigmy Pony
29-06-2022, 15:48
Yeah, if she was faced with some of the things we routinely tackled she'd be straight on her smart blower for dad to rescue her. Looks like that coat will keep her warm while she waits though.

Macca
29-06-2022, 15:50
She looks a lot like my Aunty Jill. But it's not her.

struth
30-06-2022, 15:56
USA wont be reducing its carbon footprint after the republican senior court has banned them ordering it...(obviously backed by 'big coal').
so we might as well give up on our efforts as the US produces 14% emmisions all by its polluting self.

https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/2022-01/2.%20Annual%202019.png?itok=dV1qsd79

Firebottle
01-07-2022, 06:18
The only positive from that is we'll have someone else to blame apart from China. :(

Macca
01-07-2022, 07:19
https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/2022-01/2.%20Annual%202019.png?itok=dV1qsd79

The countries with the highest populations produce the most CO2. Duh.

struth
01-07-2022, 07:47
nigeria isnt there:ner:

Macca
01-07-2022, 08:55
nigeria isnt there:ner:

How much of the 22% 'rest of world' is Nigeria though? Anyway I suspect these figures, like a lot of climate 'science' are just pulled from someone's ass. They are 'estimates' and how they estimated them is very relevant, but we don't know how so I wouldn't put any faith in it as it stands.

Sherwood
01-07-2022, 16:12
The countries with the highest populations produce the most CO2. Duh.

Aggregates are a distraction. What is more important is the per capita figure and what countries are doing (long term) to reduce emissions!

Short term actions to respond to the crisis caused by Russia in invading Ukraine are a matter of political and economic expediency. They should not distract from long term policy goals and actions to achieve those goals.

Macca
01-07-2022, 18:58
I agree.

Macca
04-07-2022, 11:34
Classic stuff:

''Dozens kept in church basement awaiting second coming of Christ freed by police''

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dozens-kept-in-church-basement-awaiting-second-coming-of-christ-freed-by-police/ar-AAZ9l4A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8642567c9ad940b4a9bc306c1c512aba

''Some people had been kept in the church since last year, according to local residents.

Pastors had encouraged church members "to stay behind" and wait for the rapture, a police spokeswoman said.

One pastor had told church members it would take place in April, then later claimed it had been changed to September.''

struth
04-07-2022, 11:43
https://godsofadvertising.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/homer-says-the-end-is-near.jpg

walpurgis
04-07-2022, 11:48
Some people will believe any fanciful nonsense. Good job the church wasn't run by somebody like Jim Jones.

Macca
04-07-2022, 11:58
Some people will believe any fanciful nonsense. Good job the church wasn't run by somebody like Jim Jones.

true, sounds like it might have got to that point if allowed to continue though.

struth
05-07-2022, 17:28
javid and sunak have both chucked it... had enough of the lies, or saving their political skin?

Pigmy Pony
05-07-2022, 18:07
Deserting a sinking ship. If I worked for that firm I'd be off too.

struth
05-07-2022, 18:09
and a stinking shit:eyebrows:

Pigmy Pony
05-07-2022, 18:10
On a happier note, and entirely unrelated, I saw a hummingbird hawk moth at the weekend, going about its business. Never seen one in this country before. Maybe I should get out more

struth
05-07-2022, 18:20
On a happier note, and entirely unrelated, I saw a hummingbird hawk moth at the weekend, going about its business. Never seen one in this country before. Maybe I should get out more

lucky you. not seen them here. maybe too cold. they are fairly big things

Macca
05-07-2022, 18:39
On a happier note, and entirely unrelated, I saw a hummingbird hawk moth at the weekend, going about its business. Never seen one in this country before. Maybe I should get out more

looked that one up apparently it's a lucky omen:

Hummingbird hawk-moths have been seen as a lucky omen. In particular, a swarm of the moths was seen flying across the English Channel on D-Day, the day of the Normandy landings in the Second World War. These moths, along with other moths, are in the family Sphingidae because their larvae were thought to resemble the Egyptian Sphinx.

Pigmy Pony
05-07-2022, 18:43
lucky you. not seen them here. maybe too cold. they are fairly big things

Just read up on them, and they migrate from southern Europe each summer, and numbers vary from year to year. Have been seen as far north as Orkney and Shetland. Might have to plant honeysuckle, they apparently like that.

Macca
05-07-2022, 18:45
There's a photo of one knocking about in Finland and it's perishing there.

walpurgis
05-07-2022, 18:53
Oooh. Sunak & Javid resigned........Boris is on the way out!

I wonder what clown will replace him?

walpurgis
05-07-2022, 18:58
Ha, just noticed Grant posted on it. Never mind, it bears mentioning twice :).

Barry
05-07-2022, 19:17
I'm all set to celebrate! :partytime: :mex:

struth
07-07-2022, 07:18
big dawg refusing to yield floor.. right, he will be off to ukraine shortly again lol

https://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/boristwatt.jpg

walpurgis
07-07-2022, 07:29
He'll be awarded the grand order of the boot soon. Just don't let that Rees-Mogg thing get a nomination.

Macca
07-07-2022, 08:05
If he does go, which I still think is very unlikely, you can expect a compromise replacement, it won't be Rees-Mogg.

The big dogs won't want the job because right now it's a poison chalice. Everything is being driven by global events which are out of anyone's power to fix.

They are just setting themselves up to strike much further down the line.

struth
07-07-2022, 08:14
ben wallace might get gig.

struth
07-07-2022, 08:17
If he does go, which I still think is very unlikely, you can expect a compromise replacement, it won't be Rees-Mogg.

The big dogs won't want the job because right now it's a poison chalice. Everything is being driven by global events which are out of anyone's power to fix.

They are just setting themselves up to strike much further down the line.

he will go, just a matter of time really.

struth
07-07-2022, 08:18
bbc now flashing up that he has agreed to resign ...

struth
07-07-2022, 10:02
yup he is going but wants to remain til autumn. that might be tricky with no govt

Macca
07-07-2022, 10:38
bbc now flashing up that he has agreed to resign ...

That's a shame. I liked Boris, him being PM really pissed off the middle-class lefties. Made too many unforced errors though, which was disappointing. I thought he'd do better, despite covid.

struth
07-07-2022, 11:10
That's a shame. I liked Boris, him being PM really pissed off the middle-class lefties. Made too many unforced errors though, which was disappointing. I thought he'd do better, despite covid.

i wanted him to stay. he was at least consistent in his behaviour and in general didnt have an axe to grind unlike most in the tory party currently. He was a pathalogical liar of course but when you know that you just believe opposite of what he said.(lets face it, most politicians are liars). Alas he wasn't a very good one and often got caught.
Next one will be a right wing fascist if im not mistaken.

Macca
07-07-2022, 12:39
i wanted him to stay. he was at least consistent in his behaviour and in general didnt have an axe to grind unlike most in the tory party currently. He was a pathalogical liar of course but when you know that you just believe opposite of what he said.(lets face it, most politicians are liars). Alas he wasn't a very good one and often got caught.
Next one will be a right wing fascist if im not mistaken.

Fascism? Not really a tory party thing. State above the individual, restriction of personal liberties, planned economy - aside from the nationalist aspect fascism is a left wing ideology with more in common with socialism and communism.

My guess is it will be another useless no-mark like Major or May. Someone who is not really up to the job but who won't scare the horses.

struth
07-07-2022, 12:45
its imo more a far right wing thing, but of course when you get that far right you end up near the left;) .. they want to ban protests, load up the military and of course fill their own greasy pockets while they do it at our expense. which is of course what the far left do too; just they dont admit it :ner:

struth
07-07-2022, 13:10
Royals seem pleased:D

https://e3.365dm.com/22/06/2048x1152/skynews-jubilee-jubilee-best_5791940.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20220602135018

Macca
07-07-2022, 13:11
its imo more a far right wing thing, but of course when you get that far right you end up near the left;) ..

yes very true.

The thing about political ideologies is that they are very 19th century. We live in a whole different world now, with different problems. There's no solutions to them to be found in ideologies. It's possible there are no solutions at all.

If there are solutions then they will be very complex. Way too complex for a bunch of ex lawyers, ex accountants and people who've never done anything except be a politician to come up with, anyway.

Mikeandvan
08-07-2022, 20:31
That's a shame. I liked Boris, him being PM really pissed off the middle-class lefties. Made too many unforced errors though, which was disappointing. I thought he'd do better, despite covid.

I loved that about him too. The press went way overboard over the whole party gate, and bum fondling stuff, really petty. In the end though, he was in it for the ride, just to be top dog. To be honest, he was a phoney, they didn;t crack down on illegal immigrants, the whole Rwanda thing was a sideshow. No matter which party are in power,life doesn't change much for most people. I don't hold much hope for the next incarnation of the Tories, neither would I look forward to a Starmer govt. I wish Jezza was back! (shame about the hangers on though).

Macca
08-07-2022, 21:23
Was just talking to a mate who follows politics very closely. He reckons next Tory leader will be Jeremy Hunt or David Davies.

Put a monkey on it, monster monster monster.

struth
09-07-2022, 07:31
hunt has a decent chance. he was runner up to bojo last time.

struth
09-07-2022, 12:46
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXNOvSQXwAEBjWO?format=jpg&name=small
Is this the best the tories have to offer in ministers etc now? scraping a fairly dirty barrel and really showing kids how to behave eh?

New education minister Andrea Jenkyns says she made rude gesture as a response to a "baying mob" who confronted her near Downing Street.

Social media footage showed the MP raising her middle finger, on the day of Boris Johnson's resignation.

Ms Jenkyns said the group were "insulting MPs... as is sadly all too common" as she made her way to hear the prime minister's speech.

She said she should have shown more composure "but is only human".

Macca
09-07-2022, 14:03
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXNOvSQXwAEBjWO?format=jpg&name=small
Is this the best the tories have to offer in ministers etc now? scraping a fairly dirty barrel and really showing kids how to behave eh?

New education minister Andrea Jenkyns says she made rude gesture as a response to a "baying mob" who confronted her near Downing Street.

Social media footage showed the MP raising her middle finger, on the day of Boris Johnson's resignation.

Ms Jenkyns said the group were "insulting MPs... as is sadly all too common" as she made her way to hear the prime minister's speech.

She said she should have shown more composure "but is only human".

What's wrong with that? Anyone in a baying mob should get more than the finger. Remember John Prescott smacking one in the mouth? That's what they need.

They should all have been at work anyway, not milling around outside Downing Street on a weekday.

Pigmy Pony
09-07-2022, 15:11
What's wrong with that? Anyone in a baying mob should get more than the finger. Remember John Prescott smacking one in the mouth? That's what they need.

They should all have been at work anyway, not milling around outside Downing Street on a weekday.

They will have been at work, having been told to "get down there and get a reaction". If it were up to me those exiting MPs would each have been given a carton of eggs and been told to give that baying mob what for.

Sherwood
09-07-2022, 16:06
That's a shame. I liked Boris, him being PM really pissed off the middle-class lefties. Made too many unforced errors though, which was disappointing. I thought he'd do better, despite covid.

Unforced errors? If this were a tennis match he would lose 6-0, 6-0, 6-0!

Apart from no real policy agenda other than Brexit, consider these "achievements". Extreme and long term damage to the UK economy; promotion of repeat sex offender; lslamophobic statements; serial and compulsive liar; Partygate; Wallpapergate; repeated abuse and waste of vast amounts of public money; his performance as Foreign Secretary and refusal to leave accomodation after being removed from office; reneging on agreement HE signed with EU; poor handling of Covid pandemic; attempts to use public funds to favour ex-girlfriend and now wife; threats to security in Ireland by attacks on Northern Ireland Protocol. I could go on but my typing fingers are tiring. Without doubt the most corrupt and venal PM in recent history. Comparisons to Churchill are frankly ridiculous. Churchill had many faults but he would never put his own interests above those of the country the way Johnson has. Even now the refusal to leave office immediately is a sign of his total self centredness!

Sherwood
09-07-2022, 16:08
Have we really reached the stage where this type of behaviour is considered acceptable? Unfortunately, yes! Seems we have our own Marjory Taylor Green/Lauren Boebert.


They will have been at work, having been told to "get down there and get a reaction". If it were up to me those exiting MPs would each have been given a carton of eggs and been told to give that baying mob what for.

Pigmy Pony
09-07-2022, 16:26
Not sure what Marjory Taylor Greene has to do with anything, but if she's a dead shot with a double yolker she has my vote. You may have guessed, when it comes to all the current political nonsense, I'm past caring. Cabinet ministers are just like Dr Who, they come back in a different body, but it's still the same shit.

Sherwood
09-07-2022, 17:39
She's a radical Trumpist with no respect for herself or her constituents. Do we really want to go further down the US route? Route 666



Not sure what Marjory Taylor Greene has to do with anything, but if she's a dead shot with a double yolker she has my vote. You may have guessed, when it comes to all the current political nonsense, I'm past caring. Cabinet ministers are just like Dr Who, they come back in a different body, but it's still the same shit.

Macca
09-07-2022, 17:52
Unforced errors? If this were a tennis match he would lose 6-0, 6-0, 6-0!

Apart from no real policy agenda other than Brexit, consider these "achievements". Extreme and long term damage to the UK economy; promotion of repeat sex offender; lslamophobic statements; serial and compulsive liar; Partygate; Wallpapergate; repeated abuse and waste of vast amounts of public money; his performance as Foreign Secretary and refusal to leave accomodation after being removed from office; reneging on agreement HE signed with EU; poor handling of Covid pandemic; attempts to use public funds to favour ex-girlfriend and now wife; threats to security in Ireland by attacks on Northern Ireland Protocol. I could go on but my typing fingers are tiring. Without doubt the most corrupt and venal PM in recent history. Comparisons to Churchill are frankly ridiculous. Churchill had many faults but he would never put his own interests above those of the country the way Johnson has. Even now the refusal to leave office immediately is a sign of his total self centredness!


the idea that one man has caused long term damage to the UK economy is a bit silly. How does that work?

Islamophobia? Give me a break. Partygate, wallpapergate? Trivial rubbish. Just shows the total paucity of ideas in the opposition that that was the best they could come up with.

Promoting a sex offender - one of the unforced errors but hardly a major event in our lives.

Northern Ireland - insoluble problem, always has been long before Brexit.

He can't leave office until a new party leader is elected. Or I suppose he could and there could be a caretaker PM but is that really necessary?

I'll skip all the unsubstantiated corruption claims and the 'one man's opinion' stuff.

No-one's comparing to Churchill. Although if Churchill had been around today he would get a lot more grief than Johnson.

Even though his performance has been disappointing he was nothing like as bad as Gordon Brown. Or Teresa May. And are we forgetting that the alternative at the time was Jeremy Corbyn and his woke warriors?

yes the choice could be better but it never has been in the past either so there's no reason to expect change there. Although I do look forward to this unprecedented new era where politicians will be expected to tell the truth all the time. That should be interesting.

walpurgis
09-07-2022, 18:55
I do look forward to this unprecedented new era where politicians will be expected to tell the truth all the time. That should be interesting.

It will certainly be novel!

Pigmy Pony
09-07-2022, 19:02
She's a radical Trumpist with no respect for herself or her constituents. Do we really want to go further down the US route? Route 666

I don't think this behaviour shows that we are following the US - our politicians have probably always been like this. The difference being that images of such actions weren't headed for global scrutiny within seconds and for all eternity.

struth
09-07-2022, 19:08
I think what she misses is that sign to press etc is that sign to the general public.
Now we know that's what most feel privately but now she's stuck with it for life.

Sherwood
09-07-2022, 20:13
I can see why you like Johnson! BTW, Boris sees himself as a Churchillian figure. Northern Ireland was solved until Boris broke it. You consider lying to Parliament and the British people "trivial rubbish". The former is a sacking offence! I will not bother with your other responses as you clearly think his behaviour acceptable.


the idea that one man has caused long term damage to the UK economy is a bit silly. How does that work?

Islamophobia? Give me a break. Partygate, wallpapergate? Trivial rubbish. Just shows the total paucity of ideas in the opposition that that was the best they could come up with.

Promoting a sex offender - one of the unforced errors but hardly a major event in our lives.

Northern Ireland - insoluble problem, always has been long before Brexit.

He can't leave office until a new party leader is elected. Or I suppose he could and there could be a caretaker PM but is that really necessary?

I'll skip all the unsubstantiated corruption claims and the 'one man's opinion' stuff.

No-one's comparing to Churchill. Although if Churchill had been around today he would get a lot more grief than Johnson.

Even though his performance has been disappointing he was nothing like as bad as Gordon Brown. Or Teresa May. And are we forgetting that the alternative at the time was Jeremy Corbyn and his woke warriors?

yes the choice could be better but it never has been in the past either so there's no reason to expect change there. Although I do look forward to this unprecedented new era where politicians will be expected to tell the truth all the time. That should be interesting.

Sherwood
09-07-2022, 20:19
That is just plain wrong. UK Politics and politicians were not always like this, if for no other reason that they would be held accountable for this type of behaviour. That is the problem that the US is facing: the Republicans, who had a majority in the Senate blocked any attempt to punish Trump or hold him to account. Boris is without question a bargain bin Trump!


I don't think this behaviour shows that we are following the US - our politicians have probably always been like this. The difference being that images of such actions weren't headed for global scrutiny within seconds and for all eternity.

guy
10-07-2022, 07:48
Not sure what Marjory Taylor Greene has to do with anything, but if she's a dead shot with a double yolker she has my vote. You may have guessed, when it comes to all the current political nonsense, I'm past caring. Cabinet ministers are just like Dr Who, they come back in a different body, but it's still the same shit.

spot on :thumbsup:

Pigmy Pony
10-07-2022, 09:22
That is just plain wrong. UK Politics and politicians were not always like this, if for no other reason that they would be held accountable for this type of behaviour. That is the problem that the US is facing: the Republicans, who had a majority in the Senate blocked any attempt to punish Trump or hold him to account. Boris is without question a bargain bin Trump!

I have no problem with being just plain wrong, it won't be the first time. But you won't convince me that bad behaviour among politicians is a new thing. It just isn't as easily hidden as it used to be.

We've had televised parliament since the 80s, but there was considerable opposition to it among MPs at the time. Maggie herself was concerned for "the good reputation of the House".

Time spent wringing our hands in despair at all this is time not enjoying good music, so at the risk of appearing shallow I'll just say I'm out of this...

Pigmy Pony
10-07-2022, 14:45
Larry the cat has tweeted that he would be happy to serve as caretaker Prime Minister. Stay as you are Larry, you don't need all the grief that will come as the media speculate about your letting all the neighbour cats through your catflap during lockdown, and the rumours that you like to dress as a dog at the weekend :(

Macca
10-07-2022, 15:05
He'd do a lot of lying in Parliament as well. Probably on top of one of the heating vents where it's nice and warm.

Pigmy Pony
10-07-2022, 15:40
Where he will do a turd and stick a red rosette on it.

Mikeandvan
10-07-2022, 21:41
The old dividing lines of Labour/Tory are now moribund, but no one else is powerful enough to get a look in, no matter who gets elected things will go on regardless of Parliament. Rents are now at a monstrous level in the South east and elsewhere, can parliament do anything about this? Yes, will it? No. They can't even stop liittle boats of economic migrants, sorry refugees. The whole Rwanda thing is a sideshow, the Tories don;t actually give two shits about immigration from countries whose culture is vastly different to our own, they'll do what their capitalist paymasters tell them to, and when that's 'we need more workers, low paid preferably', then that's what they'll get.

Macca
11-07-2022, 06:24
There's a labour shortage right now, even round here which has always had a high unemployment rate. Almost every business has 'staff required' notices outside. I get leaflets through the door from businesses trying to recruit. There's one down the road from me with seventy vacancies to fill. Not been like this since the early 1970s.

And you can still buy a house here for under a hundred grand. Rents too high in the SE? Move up north.

Mikeandvan
11-07-2022, 09:33
There's a labour shortage right now, even round here which has always had a high unemployment rate. Almost every business has 'staff required' notices outside. I get leaflets through the door from businesses trying to recruit. There's one down the road from me with seventy vacancies to fill. Not been like this since the early 1970s.

And you can still buy a house here for under a hundred grand. Rents too high in the SE? Move up north.

Exactly, there's a labour shortage because of Brexit and the after effects of Lockdown, wages still aren't high enough though to tempt the long term unemployed out of their bedsits. May be they need a helping hand/boot up the arse? I live in Brighton now, but when I retire I plan to move south, not north.

Macca
11-07-2022, 10:25
Exactly, there's a labour shortage because of Brexit and the after effects of Lockdown, wages still aren't high enough though to tempt the long term unemployed out of their bedsits. May be they need a helping hand/boot up the arse? I live in Brighton now, but when I retire I plan to move south, not north.

Isle of Wight then?

Macca
11-07-2022, 10:26
Was just thinking with these temperatures we have at the moment Flying Ant Day can't be far off.

struth
11-07-2022, 12:39
Acoustic levitation

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2326299-acoustic-levitation-used-to-build-complex-structures-in-mid-air/

Pigmy Pony
11-07-2022, 13:19
Acoustic levitation

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2326299-acoustic-levitation-used-to-build-complex-structures-in-mid-air/

Not sure what engineering applications would employ 8cm-long sticks of balsa, (I certainly wouldn't drive a car over it), but I suppose it's early days. Medical applications though - installing a suppository by acoustic levitation might be useful if my hand can't reach :)

Lawrence001
11-07-2022, 14:09
Was just thinking with these temperatures we have at the moment Flying Ant Day can't be far off.Had ours last week, 2 days

Macca
11-07-2022, 14:24
Had ours last week, 2 days

Quite early that, must be another consequence of Brexit.

Pigmy Pony
11-07-2022, 14:28
Had ours last week, 2 days

Not had one round here for years. On the other hand Ant & Dec Day is every bloody day it seems.

Mikeandvan
11-07-2022, 19:46
Isle of Wight then?

Further south.

Barry
11-07-2022, 20:14
Further south.

The Channel Islands?

guy
13-07-2022, 07:33
George Cross for all the NHS - big deal, how about a monetary bonus/award or free parking ?

Barry
13-07-2022, 09:55
I can think of far less valid and worthy awards - namely knight and damehoods for those who have done no more than their job, for which they have been very well paid, or far worse have been in government and failed in all of their appointments (naming no names here!).

Sherwood
13-07-2022, 13:31
How's this for a radical idea? A fair wage!


George Cross for all the NHS - big deal, how about a monetary bonus/award or free parking ?

struth
13-07-2022, 13:47
How's this for a radical idea? A fair wage!

THAT WOULD BE RADICAL:ner:

Barry
17-07-2022, 14:32
Repaired an 9" angle grinder today. Turned out to be an electrical problem which was difficult to trace. In the end it turned out to be a break in the mains lead. :doh:

walpurgis
17-07-2022, 14:44
And I repaired a 9" cooling fan and a bicycle puncture this afternoon :).

struth
17-07-2022, 14:48
...and i, em..... musta done summat?? oh yes, i watched a film:ner:

Macca
20-07-2022, 17:39
Why has the idiotic 'Plant based' replaced 'Vegetarian'?

Anyone?

struth
20-07-2022, 17:43
Why has the idiotic 'Plant based' replaced 'Vegetarian'?

Anyone?

tree huggers:D

walpurgis
20-07-2022, 17:50
Why has the idiotic 'Plant based' replaced 'Vegetarian'?

Anyone?

Keeps the vegans happy.

Macca
20-07-2022, 17:56
Keeps the vegans happy.

Does my head in. I remember when vegetarians were just a handful of posh people with nothing better to worry about. Now it's taking over.

Give it another thirty years they'll be telling us it's wrong to eat plants too and the human race will die out from starvation brought on by its own fuck-wittedness.

struth
20-07-2022, 18:06
yeah it to do away with the 'barmy' tag of vegies... plant based sounds more normal the them.. in general humans really need a mix tbh, unless they are very aware of what they eat and need. dont get me wrong tho, anyone trying to stop meat wll find themselves in shit faster than they think. its bolshy

Pigmy Pony
20-07-2022, 18:23
Why has the idiotic 'Plant based' replaced 'Vegetarian'?

Anyone?

Well, because 'Vegetarian' comes from the native North American word meaning "Shit at hunting", someone decided it had negative connotations.

The adverts are full of this crap, including one for the "Vegetarian Butcher" FFS... They probably think if they bang on about it long enough and loudly enough, we'll just fall into line. After all, it's the squeaky wheel that gets the sunflower oil. How can you tell if you have a vegan at your dinner party? Don't worry, they'll tell you :rolleyes:

struth
20-07-2022, 18:28
https://youtu.be/vXIdcA6mlV4

Pigmy Pony
20-07-2022, 18:30
When I was younger and these things mattered to me more, It was commonly stated that non-animal proteins didn't have the full complement of essential amino acids, and so were "incomplete" proteins. And were only any good if combined with animal proteins (eggs, meat, fish, dairy products). Is this no longer the case?

Firebottle
21-07-2022, 06:50
Well, because 'Vegetarian' comes from the native North American word meaning "Shit at hunting", someone decided it had negative connotations.

The adverts are full of this crap, including one for the "Vegetarian Butcher" FFS... They probably think if they bang on about it long enough and loudly enough, we'll just fall into line. After all, it's the squeaky wheel that gets the sunflower oil. How can you tell if you have a vegan at your dinner party? Don't worry, they'll tell you :rolleyes:

:lol::rfl:

Ninanina
31-07-2022, 19:59
Only one item of clothing today :eyebrows:

A short dress is all that’s needed

Ninanina
31-07-2022, 20:17
Not sure if I’ve already said but I’m currently training for paragliding

After flying sailplanes for 25 years then hang gliding for 3 years but then sailing kinda got in the way for 25 years so thought the best way back to flying, my first love, was paragliding

Gosh it’s so much more difficult when you get older but I’m doing my best and it’s just lovely to spend time on the hill in this lovely weather

Firebottle
31-07-2022, 20:30
That's fantastic Bev, I'm sure you'll pick it up and get the technique back again.

I have been paramotoring for the last 14 years but never non powered.

Batty
31-07-2022, 21:59
The only Para anything I do is Paracetamol. :)

Barry
01-08-2022, 09:01
Or the Paranormal. :D

Pigmy Pony
01-08-2022, 19:11
Only one item of clothing today :eyebrows:

A short dress is all that’s needed

Beware of men with really shiny shoes...

Pigmy Pony
01-08-2022, 19:14
Or the Paranormal. :D

Paralytic is quite popular round here

struth
02-08-2022, 18:09
ww3 gets closer every day... china/ russia v nato.. game on?

walpurgis
04-08-2022, 17:55
Unbelievable...................or maybe not!

https://news.sky.com/story/police-pepper-sprayed-then-tasered-one-legged-93-year-old-man-who-later-died-prompting-investigation-12665534

struth
04-08-2022, 18:06
very little surprises me and the old guy had a knife, but one can only say it looks like a complete ott reaction on an old disabled man who had dimentia...

Pigmy Pony
04-08-2022, 19:03
Well if a couple of apparently fit and healthy coppers can't relieve a wheelchair-bound old man of his knife, what chance would they have against proper crims? Even I could do that, if I had a stick.

I would have expected wet-behind-the-ears dipshits to be accompanied by experienced officers, but the article doesn't make their ages and experience known.

Mikeandvan
04-08-2022, 20:19
That's the health 'n' safety culture for you, it entitles people to think their own safety is tantamount to everything else. 93 yr old one legged guy in a wheelchair, you couldn't make it up.

Lawrence001
04-08-2022, 21:56
Beware of men with really shiny shoes...Surprised you didn't link the short dress with the paragliding post thought there was an obvious joke in there somewhere.

Sounds like the sort of thing Barbara Windsor would have got up to in the carry ons. Although in her case it would have caught on something as she took off.

Pigmy Pony
05-08-2022, 05:49
Surprised you didn't link the short dress with the paragliding post thought there was an obvious joke in there somewhere.

Sounds like the sort of thing Barbara Windsor would have got up to in the carry ons. Although in her case it would have caught on something as she took off.

:D:D Yeah, I missed that one...

And yes Babs Windsor would have nailed it in a Carry On. "This paraglider must be faulty, I keep hearing a flapping sound" :eyebrows:

struth
12-08-2022, 16:01
too much mad honey for this bear in turkey.. lol

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/11/19/61300943-0-image-a-5_1660243406996.jpg

totally spaced out

Pigmy Pony
12-08-2022, 16:11
too much mad honey for this bear in turkey.. lol

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/11/19/61300943-0-image-a-5_1660243406996.jpg

totally spaced out

Until about 30 years ago, dancing bears were quite a common attraction in that part of the world. These days they all go to raves, and don't know when to call it a night.

These days Alan Price would be singing "Simon Smith and his amazing gurning E casualty" :)

Macca
12-08-2022, 17:41
too much mad honey for this bear in turkey.. lol

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/11/19/61300943-0-image-a-5_1660243406996.jpg

totally spaced out

He's had more than he can bear.

You'll have to bear with him.

He's barely conscious.

That's enough now.

struth
12-08-2022, 17:52
He's had more than he can bear.

You'll have to bear with him.

He's barely conscious.

That's enough now.

these teenagers canny handle it... under-age honeyslurping; it's is a disgrace:D

Pigmy Pony
12-08-2022, 20:56
His arctic cousin is much cooler. Polar opposite in fact.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BfYAAOSwKoFilNpl/s-l400.png

Might just get one of these!

walpurgis
16-08-2022, 07:20
Oh dear, Ed Miliband on Sky News telling us how the country should be run. Am I really expected to take an ineffectual rubber faced lisping drip who has previously demonstrated his uselessness seriously? Every time I see him, I feel somebody is having a laugh!!

Just my opinion of course, I'm sure some find him wonderful :D.

Barry
16-08-2022, 13:36
Oh dear, Ed Miliband on Sky News telling us how the country should be run. Am I really expected to take an ineffectual rubber faced lisping drip who has previously demonstrated his uselessness seriously? Every time I see him, I feel somebody is having a laugh!!

Just my opinion of course, I'm sure some find him wonderful :D.

A bit like Boris 'Kerfuffle' Johnson and his merry band of equally useless men (and women).

Pigmy Pony
16-08-2022, 15:36
Oh dear, Ed Miliband on Sky News telling us how the country should be run. Am I really expected to take an ineffectual rubber faced lisping drip who has previously demonstrated his uselessness seriously? Every time I see him, I feel somebody is having a laugh!!

Just my opinion of course, I'm sure some find him wonderful :D.

I get them all mixed up. Is he the one trying and failing to eat a bacon sarnie a while ago?

walpurgis
16-08-2022, 15:58
I get them all mixed up. Is he the one trying and failing to eat a bacon sarnie a while ago?

I'd imagine pork would not be on his menu.

struth
16-08-2022, 16:00
I'd imagine pork would not be on his menu.

ah, mexican;)

Macca
16-08-2022, 17:47
I get them all mixed up. Is he the one trying and failing to eat a bacon sarnie a while ago?

Yeah he's the one. If you google him the second thing that comes up is 'Ed Miliband bacon sandwich.'

Pigmy Pony
17-08-2022, 05:57
Some people call him the Space Cowboy, some call him the Gangster of Love. Oh wait, I'm getting them mixed up again.

walpurgis
17-08-2022, 07:56
Nobody is safe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62570923

I expect the poor old guy was singled out precisely because of his vulnerability by some inadequate teenaged loser at a guess.

I know this road well, been there many times and have a friend who lives about a hundred yards away.

struth
17-08-2022, 08:01
Nobody is safe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62570923

I expect the poor old guy was singled out precisely because of his vulnerability by some inadequate teenaged loser at a guess.

I know this road well, been there many times and have a friend who lives about a hundred yards away.

an attack on someone who was different to them and were weaker. time to fling anyone carring a knife in jail for 10 years a pop.


Glasgow has long been notorious for its street gangs and their bloody rivalry. By the Fifties, every gang member carried an open razor and there was an epidemic of slashings. There was even a word for the typical injury – a ‘Glasgow smile’. In 1952 leading judge Lord Carmont decided to do something about it. After issuing a warning that sentences would be more severe if the use of razors and other similar weapons did not cease forthwith, he began handing out long sentences for knife and razor crime, saying the public was entitled to protection from the anti-social activities of the lawless. Anyone found with an open cut-throat razor was sent to prison for ten years. There was no reduction in those days for ‘good behaviour’.

Razor-slashing stopped overnight, and the expression ‘copping a Carmont’ entered the criminal lingo.

walpurgis
17-08-2022, 08:17
an attack on someone who was different to them and were weaker. time to fling anyone carring a knife in jail for 10 years a pop.

I read 'No Mean City' as a teenager. That was about the razor gang violence in The Gorbals.

Pigmy Pony
17-08-2022, 19:06
an attack on someone who was different to them and were weaker. time to fling anyone carring a knife in jail for 10 years a pop.

"The police and courts are getting tough on knife crime". Yeah right. Me and Mrs. Pony have seen enough of these cops programmes, and what usually happens is that the cops arrest someone carrying a knife, and then if they can persuade the CPS to run with it (they often won't) then some smart arse lawyer makes the judge feel sorry for them. Custodial sentences are rare.

Macca
17-08-2022, 19:25
"The police and courts are getting tough on knife crime". Yeah right. Me and Mrs. Pony have seen enough of these cops programmes, and what usually happens is that the cops arrest someone carrying a knife, and then if they can persuade the CPS to run with it (they often won't) then some smart arse lawyer makes the judge feel sorry for them. Custodial sentences are rare.

Always get community service round here for just carrying. The jails are full.

Mikeandvan
17-08-2022, 21:11
I remember associating with some guys when I was in my teens, they weren't friends of mine, but loosely associated. One day they were all carrying these razor blades wrapped in tin foil, because there was 'gonna be some bother'. I was shocked and bewildered at this, it seems that some teenage boys have got this really sort of violent mindset, it's weird. They didn't seem to realise what they were doing, I dunno, I suppose it's why they use youngsters for soldiers?

struth
18-08-2022, 06:07
Nobody is safe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62570923

I expect the poor old guy was singled out precisely because of his vulnerability by some inadequate teenaged loser at a guess.

I know this road well, been there many times and have a friend who lives about a hundred yards away.I see they have nicked a 44yr old from your area Geoff

walpurgis
18-08-2022, 06:28
I see they have nicked a 44yr old from your area Geoff

Hope they give him hell!

struth
18-08-2022, 06:51
Hope they give him hell!

sure someone will.

Barry
18-08-2022, 17:46
It has taken me nearly a week to complete the Evening Standard's weekend crossword. :doh:

struth
18-08-2022, 17:53
It has taken me nearly a week to complete the Evening Standard's weekend crossword. :doh:

im still on one from 1973:ner:

Barry
18-08-2022, 18:31
Come on Grant - only three more posts to go to reach 90K! :eek:

Only Marco has clocked up more posts.

Pigmy Pony
18-08-2022, 18:43
Come on Grant - only three more posts to go to reach 90K! :eek:

Only Marco has clocked up more posts.

And still on the original tyres :)

struth
18-08-2022, 18:54
well marco has 5 years on me lol.. but yes its maybe a sight of a wasted life???

https://y.yarn.co/39269667-13d5-4f44-856f-58bdd0682db4_text.gif

Mikeandvan
19-08-2022, 20:49
I can't imagine what sort of upbringing you must have had to want to bully a very old man, these people are truly beyond redemption, and they deserve nothing but the harshest treatment.

Pigmy Pony
20-08-2022, 07:39
I can't imagine what sort of upbringing you must have had to want to bully a very old man, these people are truly beyond redemption, and they deserve nothing but the harshest treatment.

Oh he'll definitely get that when he's inside. And rightly so.

walpurgis
21-08-2022, 06:19
Shortages likely if Felixstowe industrial action goes ahead. Maybe other ports could be affected too.

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2022-08-20/workers-at-uks-biggest-container-port-to-strike-for-eight-days-over-pay

Pigmy Pony
21-08-2022, 06:43
The report suggests that freight will probably be diverted to other ports, but I doubt it will be that simple. I think we can expect Unite to get all their members to follow Felixstowe's lead.

If the dispute runs on, supply shortages will undoubtedly hike cost of products even further. Couldn't be a worse time for this. No idea whether to feel sorry for the workers here, as I don't know what they're currently getting. I bet it's more than I get though.

walpurgis
21-08-2022, 07:03
The report suggests that freight will probably be diverted to other ports

I think it unlikely other ports have the additional capacity, assuming they don't also join in the industrial action.

Macca
21-08-2022, 08:00
it's suspicious that the union doesn't put the offer to the members. If they were to do so and the members reject it then that's fair enough. Same is happening with the rail dispute.

Does make me wonder if the union is just using their members as pawns in an ideological battle, like with Scargill and the miners.

struth
21-08-2022, 08:01
The report suggests that freight will probably be diverted to other ports, but I doubt it will be that simple. I think we can expect Unite to get all their members to follow Felixstowe's lead.

If the dispute runs on, supply shortages will undoubtedly hike cost of products even further. Couldn't be a worse time for this. No idea whether to feel sorry for the workers here, as I don't know what they're currently getting. I bet it's more than I get though.

all for working folk getting a decent wage etc but they have to be careful not to start starving the public as it will backfire.

struth
21-08-2022, 08:02
it's suspicious that the union doesn't put the offer to the members. If they were to do so and the members reject it then that's fair enough. Same is happening with the rail dispute.

Does make me wonder if the union is just using their members as pawns in an ideological battle, like with Scargill and the miners.

indeed; it needs to be tested by a ballot.

Barry
21-08-2022, 14:54
I'm still stunned by the fact that P&O have got away with murder: sacking nearly 800 ferry personnel via an e-mail, giving them less than 24 hours notice.

Despite breaking UK law, the government are unable (or unwilling) to do anything about it.

Macca
21-08-2022, 15:47
I'm still stunned by the fact that P&O have got away with murder: sacking nearly 800 ferry personnel via an e-mail, giving them less than 24 hours notice.

Despite breaking UK law, the government are unable (or unwilling) to do anything about it.

CPS advised there was no chance of a successful prosecution. I don't understand why and it was never explained in the news item I read.

struth
01-09-2022, 15:16
Ravil Maganov: Russian Lukoil chief dies in 'fall from hospital window'
headline that needs no explanation of how he fell.....:eek:

Jimbo
01-09-2022, 15:37
He was just taking some air and fell out?:scratch:

struth
01-09-2022, 16:11
He was just taking some air and fell out?:scratch:

The company( Lukoil)confirmed his death (https://www.lukoil.com/PressCenter/Pressreleases/Pressrelease?rid=594561) but said only that Maganov, 67, had "passed away following a severe illness".:D


[i suppose being flung out the window of tenth floor qualifies as a severe illness]:eyebrows:

walpurgis
01-09-2022, 18:29
[i suppose being flung out the window of tenth floor qualifies as a severe illness]:eyebrows:

That would certainly produce some fairly radical symptoms!

Oddball
04-09-2022, 12:31
My old landlord sold his place and went to Portugal ,(had a small flat in town too)
He worked a lot in all sorts of places but did a few months in Moscow and Kazakstan too a few years ago.
We saw him the other day
He was chatting to a friend in Moscow recently and basicallly the richer guys have vpn's and computers so ,can see whats happening ,but its just better to keep their heads down and not risk any chances of falling out of that window !!

Mikeandvan
04-09-2022, 20:55
it's suspicious that the union doesn't put the offer to the members. If they were to do so and the members reject it then that's fair enough. Same is happening with the rail dispute.

Does make me wonder if the union is just using their members as pawns in an ideological battle, like with Scargill and the miners.

Well said, if a strike action isn't democratic, then it's worthless.

Mikeandvan
04-09-2022, 21:15
So Liz Truss will likely be our next PM, can't say that excites me too much. But, it's rumoured she'll elect Kemi Badenoch as her education secretary. Badenoch is known for her anti-Woke views, and nowhere is this more salient than in education, what with 'drag queen story hour' and all that bollocks. I really hope she takes the fight for common sense all the way, like many others, I'm sick of all this nonsense being thrust on us by ignorant liberals, who couldn't see a bad idea if it screamed in their faces while pulling on their ears. Mind you, this is all meaningless unless the Tory's really do something about this, rather than their usual impotent virtue signaling bollocks, like with the Rwanda plan that never was and never shall be.

Firebottle
05-09-2022, 06:22
This ^^^

walpurgis
05-09-2022, 06:44
£20 for a pint of beer? That's not going to happen, nobody will pay it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/uk-pubs-must-hike-pint-27903355

https://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/20900749.cost-living-landlords-warn-20-pints-needed-cover-energy-bills/

struth
05-09-2022, 11:18
Testing broadband speed and 3 different services gave 3 different speeds.
Shows you can't really trust any for sure.
I will go with the lower.
622mb..580mb..509mb..
Supposed to be 500 tops.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/924/4z5b4s.png

one of the screenshots

Macca
05-09-2022, 12:34
£20 for a pint of beer? That's not going to happen, nobody will pay it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/uk-pubs-must-hike-pint-27903355

https://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/20900749.cost-living-landlords-warn-20-pints-needed-cover-energy-bills/

maybe we will see the return of speakeasys selling home brew? No pointless regulations, no licensing hours, no children, and you'll be able to smoke in there too. It will be almost like living in a free country again.

walpurgis
05-09-2022, 13:22
maybe we will see the return of speakeasys selling home brew?

Well hopefully it won't turn out like Russia where hundreds die or go blind every year from drinking home brewed stuff laced with methyl alcohol.

Macca
05-09-2022, 14:19
Well hopefully it won't turn out like Russia where hundreds die or go blind every year from drinking home brewed stuff laced with methyl alcohol.

That's spirits though not beer. Brewing half decent beer's not hard, even I've managed to do it.

Mikeandvan
05-09-2022, 21:54
Harry and Megan, just what is the frigging point of them? Come to think of it, what is the point of the Royals at all, time to give them the boot?

struth
06-09-2022, 08:00
wouldn't want to give them the boot personally. they make the country different and more i think. they bring in a lot of tourists too. britain has always been more than a common or garden republic... i'd boot a few of the hangers on tho.

walpurgis
06-09-2022, 08:14
Liz Truss to address the nation later today. Think I'll make a point of giving that a miss!

I don't know about 'the state of the nation', but the nation is in a right old state. Granted it's not necessarily all the fault of our government, but there's not been even a whiff of anything useful coming from them.

struth
06-09-2022, 08:34
Does the whole world hate Liz Truss? (A: No, she’s quite popular in the Baltics, and parts of the Indo-Pacific.)



https://www.politico.eu/article/liz-truss-world-prime-minister-united-kingdom/

Mikeandvan
06-09-2022, 10:52
wouldn't want to give them the boot personally. they make the country different and more i think. they bring in a lot of tourists too. britain has always been more than a common or garden republic... i'd boot a few of the hangers on tho.

I don't think tourists actually get to meet the Queen, or any of the Royals. But they do get to visit our national monuments, all of which would still be standing even if the Royals aren't.

Macca
06-09-2022, 11:46
I don't think tourists actually get to meet the Queen, or any of the Royals. But they do get to visit our national monuments, all of which would still be standing even if the Royals aren't.

Tradition more important than people think.

Plus the Royals are an international soap opera, billions watch them. Keeps us on the map, which is good for business. Well worth the expense which is a drop in the ocean of government spending. Probably costs more to police the Notting Hill carnival.

Personally I'd spend more on them not less. They are still an under-exploited asset IMO. Get them a new yacht, top of the line, and have them travelling around the world talking up the UK and restoring the balance of payments.

Mikeandvan
06-09-2022, 21:13
Tradition more important than people think.

Plus the Royals are an international soap opera, billions watch them. Keeps us on the map, which is good for business. Well worth the expense which is a drop in the ocean of government spending. Probably costs more to police the Notting Hill carnival.

Personally I'd spend more on them not less. They are still an under-exploited asset IMO. Get them a new yacht, top of the line, and have them travelling around the world talking up the UK and restoring the balance of payments.

I think we can live without the tittle tattle peddled in the likes Hello! or the Daily Mail. Also, I'd just like to see them gone, along with their aristo chums. Parliament could do without its interference also, I know it's mostly ceremonial, but still, this is the 21st century.

Macca
07-09-2022, 07:31
Parliament could do without its interference also, I know it's mostly ceremonial, but still, this is the 21st century.

What interference? It's entirely ceremonial. Last monarch to exercise the Royal Prerogative was William IV in 1831.

struth
07-09-2022, 18:30
dr congo footbridge opening.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/07/drc-officials-bridge-collapses-ceremony

thats what i call a well built bridge.... i bet the builders are now all dead lol

Macca
07-09-2022, 18:46
dr congo footbridge opening.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/07/drc-officials-bridge-collapses-ceremony

thats what i call a well built bridge.... i bet the builders are now all dead lol

reminds me of the time my brother dismantled and rebuilt his bike and decided that the nuts and bolts he had left over were surplus to requirements.

struth
09-09-2022, 18:20
new plastic to kill virus's


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62797775

sounds like the business

walpurgis
10-09-2022, 06:54
OK, own up. Who's had their central heating on already? :)

I'm holding out for now and taking steps to not be cold.

struth
10-09-2022, 07:14
It's not been on yet but last night was quite cool be shall we say

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2022, 07:29
No central heating yet. Mrs. P has bought a couple more fleecy "throws" which will keep us wrapped with the heating turned way down. That's the plan. I think the real challenge may be drying laundry. Haven't thought of a way round that.

Macca
10-09-2022, 07:37
what's central heating?

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2022, 07:43
what's central heating?

A means to provide hot water and warmth throughout the home, powered normally by gas, electricity or oil. Ready Brek do a simplified version for kids. I'd start with that :)

walpurgis
10-09-2022, 08:05
I think the real challenge may be drying laundry. Haven't thought of a way round that.

I just bought a washing line to use in the garage, any laundry that's not needed quickly can go on it.

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2022, 08:39
Three motorbikes, a fridge, a chest freezer, and a shitload of tools, camping equipment and fishing and archery tackle leave little room for laundry. And it's also detached and bloody cold in winter. The clothes would take too long to dry and end up smelling like wet dog.

The only other usable space is the "dining room" which is where I keep all my records, CDs and hifi crap. She can use that provided I can still get at what I need.

struth
10-09-2022, 08:49
I just bought a washing line to use in the garage, any laundry that's not needed quickly can go on it.

will likely dry better outside or in house.

Macca
10-09-2022, 09:02
A means to provide hot water and warmth throughout the home, powered normally by gas, electricity or oil. Ready Brek do a simplified version for kids. I'd start with that :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9CdeEyx7NY

Those were the days, walking to school in the pouring rain and they hadn't invented coats that actually kept any warmth in back then, you had to make do with an 'anorak' that let the rain through unhindered. When you got in the school steam would come off you for an hour or so.

Recall at the time rumour had it that the 'glowing' kid lived next door to Windscale.

walpurgis
10-09-2022, 09:33
will likely dry better outside or in house.

I've sometimes used the garage and shed to hang the occasional non-urgent item of laundry to dry anyway. It just takes a bit longer.

And I hand wash a fair bit. Why not? It's not much bother and quicker. I also use cold water where I can, it works fine.

struth
10-09-2022, 09:37
I've sometimes used the garage and shed to hang the occasional non-urgent item of laundry to dry anyway. It just takes a bit longer.

And I hand wash a fair bit. Why not? It's not much bother and quicker. I also use cold water where I can, it works fine.

i hand wash a lot of stuff. its cheaper and does a better job in general. especially whites. i just hang them on a horse or on a radiator etc.

walpurgis
10-09-2022, 09:41
i hand wash a lot of stuff. its cheaper and does a better job in general. especially whites. i just hang them on a horse or on a radiator etc.

My daughter used to do that, I had to strip and repaint several rads because of it. It damaged the enamel.

struth
10-09-2022, 13:19
My daughter used to do that, I had to strip and repaint several rads because of it. It damaged the enamel.Never had an issue with mine tbh. Usually just the small hall one I use

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2022, 13:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9CdeEyx7NY

Those were the days, walking to school in the pouring rain and they hadn't invented coats that actually kept any warmth in back then, you had to make do with an 'anorak' that let the rain through unhindered. When you got in the school steam would come off you for an hour or so.

Recall at the time rumour had it that the 'glowing' kid lived next door to Windscale.

https./youtu.be/Wk0WzCtF0yY Damn. I can't do Youtube videos. Never mind.

Macca
10-09-2022, 14:49
https./youtu.be/Wk0WzCtF0yY Damn. I can't do Youtube videos. Never mind.

Just copy the URL thingy from Youtube,

https://i.ibb.co/znkLrw2/Capture3.jpg (https://ibb.co/Rv5M9W6)


then on AOS reply box you click on this button here:

https://i.ibb.co/XzkdjKc/Capture.jpg (https://ibb.co/sFJDbN8)

This box comes up:


https://i.ibb.co/pZbSfKj/Capture2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


and you paste the URL into it, click 'Okay' and you're done, the video is embedded in your post.

Firebottle
10-09-2022, 15:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk0WzCtF0yY

There you go Steve.

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 00:23
:D Thank you both! And Mart, I will give it a try tomorrow.

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 00:35
Hmm.
.
Thursday night about 2am I woke up with terrible indigestion. I'd had a Weetabix/Shreddies cocktail at suppertime and I blamed that, though I have never had indigestion before. I found some Rennies in the cupboard so I tried one (yuk) and it made no difference. I somehow got back to sleep, but then woke about 5am with a need to throw up. Nothing came out, just a lot of dry heaving.

At 7am I woke again for work and felt fine, just a bit tired.

Just been round my mate's tonight, and told him about it. And his wife reckons it's more likely a heart thing, and not a mouldy old out of date Rennie.

So when I got home, first thing I did (after a bowl of cornflakes) was to go on tinternet to look up heart attack symptoms. But after 10 minutes I got bored and came on here instead. I should probably take these things more seriously.

Puffin
11-09-2022, 06:46
Well Steve as your avatar says..."who gives a crap":lol:

But seriously it might be worth just running it past a medical professional as it could have been signs of heart problems.

I have just undergone a raft of tests for possible long Covid, one being an Echocardiagram. I am due to see the Doc on 30/9 to discuss all the results.

Rob.

Macca
11-09-2022, 07:21
Hmm.
.
Thursday night about 2am I woke up with terrible indigestion. I'd had a Weetabix/Shreddies cocktail at suppertime and I blamed that, though I have never had indigestion before. I found some Rennies in the cupboard so I tried one (yuk) and it made no difference. I somehow got back to sleep, but then woke about 5am with a need to throw up. Nothing came out, just a lot of dry heaving.

At 7am I woke again for work and felt fine, just a bit tired.

Just been round my mate's tonight, and told him about it. And his wife reckons it's more likely a heart thing, and not a mouldy old out of date Rennie.

So when I got home, first thing I did (after a bowl of cornflakes) was to go on tinternet to look up heart attack symptoms. But after 10 minutes I got bored and came on here instead. I should probably take these things more seriously.

get it checked out.

struth
11-09-2022, 08:22
could be gastro reflux.... i get that. its the valve at top of stomach doesnt close right and leaks acid upwards. peptol will help as it foams up at top to cause a seal etc. an antacid by itself wont help, doc may put you on an acid pump inhibitor too, if you make too much acid.
it may well be caused by eating a difficult to digest meal just before lying down, and you may have produced a lot of acid, ad some leaked up..
worth getting checked tho. hopefully a script is all youll need. and dont eat right before bed

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 08:41
Well Steve as your avatar says..."who gives a crap":lol:

But seriously it might be worth just running it past a medical professional as it could have been signs of heart problems.

I have just undergone a raft of tests for possible long Covid, one being an Echocardiagram. I am due to see the Doc on 30/9 to discuss all the results.

Rob.

They don't like to rush do they? Though I suppose the slower they move with these things the less likely it will be a significant problem. Best of luck Rob.

Re. the Who Gives a Crap avatar - the answer is Mrs. Pony! She does enough worrying for the both of us! What with cutting most of the salt out of my diet, and putting out my daily blood pressure tablet lest I forget... Anybody would think she wasn't interested in my life insurance :D

I expect I will have to speak to a doc about this "indigestion" thing, she will insist on it. It's happened twice now this year.

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 08:45
Thanks for the advice guys, I will have to get it checked out. Grant, what you're saying makes a lot of sense, and no more cereal suppers from now on :)

Apart from NEBO, where I predict a prolonged beer supper. You have to draw the line somewhere :cool:

struth
11-09-2022, 09:04
Thanks for the advice guys, I will have to get it checked out. Grant, what you're saying makes a lot of sense, and no more cereal suppers from now on :)

Apart from NEBO, where I predict a prolonged beer supper. You have to draw the line somewhere :cool:

I USED TO GET A PAIN AT BREAST BONE.. it was even sore to touch and was the acid. i should have said its peptac liquid. i use the aniseed version. really hits spot. i get it on script.

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 09:26
I USED TO GET A PAIN AT BREAST BONE.. it was even sore to touch and was the acid. i should have said its peptac liquid. i use the aniseed version. really hits spot. i get it on script.

That's exactly where the pain was, right under where the ribs come together. Nowhere else.

struth
11-09-2022, 09:31
That's exactly where the pain was, right under where the ribs come together. Nowhere else.

good looks like its solved.. your valve gets tired with age apparently and doesnt seal properly. you eating late near bed time has set off the acid and its come out and burnt your tubes at that spot.

Puffin
11-09-2022, 12:28
They don't like to rush do they? Though I suppose the slower they move with these things the less likely it will be a significant problem. Best of luck Rob..

My first appointment was on the 26th March! so 6 months to get tested:lol:

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2022, 12:46
Good grief, they obviously don't see it as time critical then. But if was something really serious you'd want to know asap whether it was worth starting a DVD box set :)

Puffin
11-09-2022, 17:50
Good grief, they obviously don't see it as time critical then. But if was something really serious you'd want to know asap whether it was worth starting a DVD box set :)

Oh Yesss:eek:

Batty
11-09-2022, 22:02
I have had long covid symptoms since feb, not had covid though, the onset was 5 days after my Pfizer booster.
AZ was administered for the first 2, not going anywhere near Pfizer or Moderna again unless I really have to.

Pigmy Pony
12-09-2022, 17:09
good looks like its solved.. your valve gets tired with age apparently and doesnt seal properly. you eating late near bed time has set off the acid and its come out and burnt your tubes at that spot.

Doctor from Livingston I presume :) Thanks for the info Grant, obviously still a bit rubbish to have, but at least I can go to bed reasonably confident about waking the next day!

struth
12-09-2022, 17:57
Doctor from Livingston I presume :) Thanks for the info Grant, obviously still a bit rubbish to have, but at least I can go to bed reasonably confident about waking the next day!

i'd still see a doc if it happens again.. peace of mind for all steve..

Pigmy Pony
12-09-2022, 19:19
i'd still see a doc if it happens again.. peace of mind for all steve..

Yes of course, but right now I have a more pressing concern: I've gone deaf in one ear! I wake each morning with my left ear completely blocked, and though it improves a bit when I'm up and about, I hear next to bugger all. And when my phone rings I can't so easily locate it. And music doesn't sound quite right - am I listening in mono?

Annoying that it's my left ear - my sitting position puts my stereo to my left and Anita to my right. Should be the other way round :(

Time for some earwax removal then. NHS don't seem to be arsed anymore, but there are plenty of private places, offering "micro suction" which is supposed to be better and safer. And they all seem to stay open quite late, which is handy. Prices average around £45 for one ear and £70 for two.

I'm the world's greatest at putting things off, but I think I'll make this a priority.

Puffin
13-09-2022, 06:36
I had mine done by micro suction about 4 months ago. Used to have them done once a year at the surgery by the water pump method. I have Tinnitus that was made worse by Covid. I found the micro suction really loud and was concerned about it making my Tinnitus even worse but it doesn't seem to have. Very efficient cleaning method but mine was £70 for about 10 mins. Nice money if you can get it.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2022, 16:45
I had mine done by micro suction about 4 months ago. Used to have them done once a year at the surgery by the water pump method. I have Tinnitus that was made worse by Covid. I found the micro suction really loud and was concerned about it making my Tinnitus even worse but it doesn't seem to have. Very efficient cleaning method but mine was £70 for about 10 mins. Nice money if you can get it.

Yeah I was thinking that, a licence to print money. And I bet they make a bit more by selling the removed wax on to the people who make Marmite :( I would have to spend 3 hours up a ladder in all weathers for that kind of money.

If I was called out to adjust a door for a micro-suctioneer (is that a word?), a job taking about ten minutes, then said "£70 please", he'd have a right face on him.

If I had my time over again... I'd still avoid Marmite

struth
13-09-2022, 17:02
marmite on toast, as long as you spread it thin, is great ... i like bovril as a drink too and use bovril chicken and beef in dishes im making sometimes as a boost.
its as they say a em, marmite taste tho.. the aussie version, vegimite i find fairly ghastly tho.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2022, 17:12
Bovril is proper - as a kid I'd always have a cup of Bovril and a bag of crisps in Saul Street Baths cafe. Without that incentive I probably wouldn't have learned to swim.

struth
13-09-2022, 17:31
Bovril is proper - as a kid I'd always have a cup of Bovril and a bag of crisps in Saul Street Baths cafe. Without that incentive I probably wouldn't have learned to swim.Remember a naval war film, think it was in which we serve where the captain gives army officers they rescued at Dunkirk, I think, Bovril and sherry mixed which they all raved about.
I tried it...yuk! Lol

struth
13-09-2022, 17:34
Dozens of Clarence House staff have been given notice of their redundancy as the offices of King Charles and the Queen Consort move to Buckingham Palace after the death of the Queen, the Guardian has learned.

Up to 100 employees at the King’s former official residence, including some who have worked there for decades, received notification that they could lose their jobs just as they were working round the clock to smooth his elevation to the throne.

Private secretaries, the finance office, the communications team and household staff are among those who received notice during the thanksgiving service for the Queen, at St Giles’ Cathedral in Edinburgh on Monday, that their posts were on the line.

Nice....that's the way to do it eh

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2022, 17:55
Dozens of Clarence House staff have been given notice of their redundancy as the offices of King Charles and the Queen Consort move to Buckingham Palace after the death of the Queen, the Guardian has learned.

Up to 100 employees at the King’s former official residence, including some who have worked there for decades, received notification that they could lose their jobs just as they were working round the clock to smooth his elevation to the throne.

Private secretaries, the finance office, the communications team and household staff are among those who received notice during the thanksgiving service for the Queen, at St Giles’ Cathedral in Edinburgh on Monday, that their posts were on the line.

Nice....that's the way to do it eh

Whoever made the decision to inform them during this period of mourning, they want bloody sacking. A much better way to reduce the wages bill.

Barry
13-09-2022, 23:22
If I had my time over again... I'd still avoid Marmite

How can anyone not like Marmite? How else are you going to get your RDI of vitamin B complex? :)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/marmite-health-benefit-heart-vitamin-sleep-magnesium-a7867336.html

Barry
13-09-2022, 23:28
Dozens of Clarence House staff have been given notice of their redundancy as the offices of King Charles and the Queen Consort move to Buckingham Palace after the death of the Queen, the Guardian has learned.

Up to 100 employees at the King’s former official residence, including some who have worked there for decades, received notification that they could lose their jobs just as they were working round the clock to smooth his elevation to the throne.

Private secretaries, the finance office, the communications team and household staff are among those who received notice during the thanksgiving service for the Queen, at St Giles’ Cathedral in Edinburgh on Monday, that their posts were on the line.

Nice....that's the way to do it eh

A very shoddy way to treat loyal staff. Obviously there would be a duplication of staff, but there must be better ways to soften the blow. One can only hope the redundancy package is generous.

Pigmy Pony
14-09-2022, 06:40
How can anyone not like Marmite? How else are you going to get your RDI of vitamin B complex? :)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/marmite-health-benefit-heart-vitamin-sleep-magnesium-a7867336.html

No shortage of B complex supplements on the market. Even if it came in suppository form that would be preferable to Marmite. Having said that I don't take any vitamin supplements, so no doubt I will probably be deficient in something, and in that respect I envy Marmite fans their tolerance for things that just taste wrong.

walpurgis
14-09-2022, 07:09
How can anyone not like Marmite? How else are you going to get your RDI of vitamin B complex? :)

We have Marmite, but it never occurs to me to eat any. The missus does though.

walpurgis
14-09-2022, 13:12
I've noticed there have been no police to be seen for the last few days. All seconded to nearby forces on royal related duties I expect, we're within ten miles of Windsor and Westminster. You don't see that many police cars, but you do see a few, there are none about now.

struth
14-09-2022, 13:17
I've noticed there have been no police to be seen for the last few days. All seconded to nearby forces on royal related duties I expect, we're within ten miles of Windsor and Westminster. You don't see that many police cars, but you do see a few, there are none about now.

great time for crooks then..

walpurgis
14-09-2022, 13:38
Plenty of them around!

walpurgis
15-09-2022, 06:11
Remind me to never buy Dormeo products. The verbal battering they give you in their TV adverts is ridiculous!

Lawrence001
15-09-2022, 06:16
Remind me to never buy Dormeo products. The verbal battering they give you in their TV adverts is ridiculous!Sounds like a sleeping product do they sell massively overpriced memory foam mattresses?

Lawrence001
15-09-2022, 06:22
No shortage of B complex supplements on the market. Even if it came in suppository form that would be preferable to Marmite. Having said that I don't take any vitamin supplements, so no doubt I will probably be deficient in something, and in that respect I envy Marmite fans their tolerance for things that just taste wrong.Speaking of alternative methods to take vitamins I've just had a thought. They do the pill in slow release implants that last a few years. The government could introduce mandatory multivitamin implants to keep people healthy and save the NHS money. They could do them to children at school that way children would get their vitamins even if they had neglectful parents.

The company getting the contract would do ok too. I'm wonder if Matt Hancock's pub landlord knows anything about multivitamins...

walpurgis
15-09-2022, 07:52
Sounds like a sleeping product do they sell massively overpriced memory foam mattresses?

That's right.

I think they must rely on impulse buyers, nobody researching the pros and cons is likely to buy one I think. The product looks gimmicky to me.

walpurgis
15-09-2022, 07:57
Half the nation to go hungry on Monday, McDonald's to be closed for the royal funeral!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62903404

struth
15-09-2022, 08:10
they reopen at 5pm... most big operations will be closed.

Mikeandvan
15-09-2022, 11:20
Speaking of alternative methods to take vitamins I've just had a thought. They do the pill in slow release implants that last a few years. The government could introduce mandatory multivitamin implants to keep people healthy and save the NHS money. They could do them to children at school that way children would get their vitamins even if they had neglectful parents.

The company getting the contract would do ok too. I'm wonder if Matt Hancock's pub landlord knows anything about multivitamins...

If popping a pill seems too easy a way to good health, that's because it probably is. The efficacy of vit D pills has been brought into question, even when levels in the body appear normal, it seems the natural production of vit D itself only brings real benefits.

Barry
15-09-2022, 12:42
Speaking of alternative methods to take vitamins I've just had a thought. They do the pill in slow release implants that last a few years. The government could introduce mandatory multivitamin implants to keep people healthy and save the NHS money. They could do them to children at school that way children would get their vitamins even if they had neglectful parents.

The company getting the contract would do ok too. I'm wonder if Matt Hancock's pub landlord knows anything about multivitamins...

What an awful idea - what other mandatory injections would they think desirable?

Pigmy Pony
15-09-2022, 16:41
The idea does have some merit, but that word "mandatory" has to go - no one would get behind that. In any case, trust issues between Joe Public and the govt would always be a stumbling block.

Better perhaps would the provision of a multivitamin for primary school kids, like they used to do with milk. Free of charge, and also parents could choose to opt out.

Older kids and adults can fend for themselves, but hopefully young kids will stick with it as it has become a normal routine.

Barry
15-09-2022, 18:45
Yes, it was the word "mandatory" I objected to.

Childhood jabs for polio, diptheria, rubella, smallpox, TB, whooping cough etc. make perfect sense; though I think they should be highly recommended rather than mandatory.

Pigmy Pony
17-09-2022, 07:48
Off into town later to Richer Sounds to buy an a/v amp. Mrs. P is missing the old, long-dead one. She wants it primarily I think, for the new Game of Thrones spin off "House of The Dragon" - she wants to hear the dragons flying round her head.

It would be cheaper for me to stand behind her making roaring noises, but no that's not good enough. High maintenance or what?

Macca
17-09-2022, 08:52
Just been down Sainsburys do some shopping and draw some cash out but ofc their cashpoint isn't working. On a Saturday too which you have to think is when most people will need to use it.

Not an isolated incident either. The bloody thing is out of order more often than Piers Morgan. Now I've only got about eight quid in cash so I'll have to make a second trip out just for that. Useless wankers.

walpurgis
17-09-2022, 09:17
Just been down Sainsburys do some shopping and draw some cash out but ofc their cashpoint isn't working.

I draw cash with my debit card at the local Post Office counter on the rare occasion I need it.

struth
17-09-2022, 09:23
need to get cash out too.. its the grandsons 15th on tuesday. last time i tried it was like macca..empty. trying to wean us off cash i think.

Macca
17-09-2022, 09:58
I draw cash with my debit card at the local Post Office counter on the rare occasion I need it.

Our local post office shut several months ago and hasn't re-opened. Now have to use the one in the 'University Quarter' which is tiny and the queue is out the door most of the day because of Pox E Student taking up the staff's time with some pointless nonsense.

Can't be doing with buying stuff with my card, I like to have cash in my pocket. It's reassuring.

Pigmy Pony
18-09-2022, 06:29
good looks like its solved.. your valve gets tired with age apparently and doesnt seal properly. you eating late near bed time has set off the acid and its come out and burnt your tubes at that spot.

Grant, it looks like you're spot on with your diagnosis. I went to see the doc on Friday, who also spoke about this valve, told me to stop eating close to bedtime, cut down on fatty foods, avoid alcohol (I can do that), cut down on coffee (can't do that) and prescribed a 28 day course of a 'proton pump inhibitor' (PPI) called Omeprazole.

Now the whole of my stomach feels tender, but apparently this is a common side effect which should go away for a few days.

struth
18-09-2022, 06:58
Grant, it looks like you're spot on with your diagnosis. I went to see the doc on Friday, who also spoke about this valve, told me to stop eating close to bedtime, cut down on fatty foods, avoid alcohol (I can do that), cut down on coffee (can't do that) and prescribed a 28 day course of a 'proton pump inhibitor' (PPI) called Omeprazole.

Now the whole of my stomach feels tender, but apparently this is a common side effect which should go away for a few days.

good news steve. im on omeprazole for life lol.. oddly mine played up last night so had to take liquid.. must have been the whisky:eek:

Pigmy Pony
18-09-2022, 07:34
good news steve. im on omeprazole for life lol.. oddly mine played up last night so had to take liquid.. must have been the whisky:eek:

Yep, I suppose that would do it. Though sometimes it's a toss up between risking some discomfort and that feeble existence also known as abstinence ;) Never been that bothered about alcohol since before I was wed, smoking has always been my demon, which is probably worse.

walpurgis
18-09-2022, 08:26
I live like a monk compared to most it seems :).

I had all the regular 'bad habits', but have none now. Partly choice and partly necessity.

Pigmy Pony
18-09-2022, 09:31
I tried, but found the robes a bit scratchy.

struth
22-09-2022, 17:46
i see russian males are trying to get out of country to avoid conscription... cant say i blame them.. they are not trained for a war situation and the front is a tough place. another sign russia has bitten off too much.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/russia-mobilisation-ukraine-war-army-drive

Macca
22-09-2022, 18:46
i see russian males are trying to get out of country to avoid conscription... cant say i blame them.. they are not trained for a war situation and the front is a tough place. another sign russia has bitten off too much.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/russia-mobilisation-ukraine-war-army-drive

They are really running themselves into the ground. They should have quit after the first week, writing was on the wall from the start.

Pigmy Pony
22-09-2022, 19:36
My concern is what Putin and his cronies are likely to do when backed into a corner

Mikeandvan
22-09-2022, 22:31
America was warned 20/30 years ago not to expand Nato to Russia's borders, and here we are, the return of nuclear annihilation.

Here's US diplomat/historian A Fateful Error
By George F. Kennan
Feb. 5, 1997

"In late 1996, the impression was allowed, or caused, to become prevalent that it had been somehow and somewhere decided to expand NATO up to Russia's borders. This despite the fact that no formal decision can be made before the alliance's next summit meeting, in June.

The timing of this revelation -- coinciding with the Presidential election and the pursuant changes in responsible personalities in Washington -- did not make it easy for the outsider to know how or where to insert a modest word of comment. Nor did the assurance given to the public that the decision, however preliminary, was irrevocable encourage outside opinion.

But something of the highest importance is at stake here. And perhaps it is not too late to advance a view that, I believe, is not only mine alone but is shared by a number of others with extensive and in most instances more recent experience in Russian matters. The view, bluntly stated, is that expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in the entire post-cold-war era.
Such a decision may be expected to inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion; to have an adverse effect on the development of Russian democracy; to restore the atmosphere of the cold war to East-West relations, and to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking. And, last but not least, it might make it much more difficult, if not impossible, to secure the Russian Duma's ratification of the Start II agreement and to achieve further reductions of nuclear weaponry.
It is, of course, unfortunate that Russia should be confronted with such a challenge at a time when its executive power is in a state of high uncertainty and near-paralysis. And it is doubly unfortunate considering the total lack of any necessity for this move. Why, with all the hopeful possibilities engendered by the end of the cold war, should East-West relations become centered on the question of who would be allied with whom and, by implication, against whom in some fanciful, totally unforeseeable and most improbable future military conflict?

I am aware, of course, that NATO is conducting talks with the Russian authorities in hopes of making the idea of expansion tolerable and palatable to Russia. One can, in the existing circumstances, only wish these efforts success. But anyone who gives serious attention to the Russian press cannot fail to note that neither the public nor the Government is waiting for the proposed expansion to occur before reacting to it.
Russians are little impressed with American assurances that it reflects no hostile intentions. They would see their prestige (always uppermost in the Russian mind) and their security interests as adversely affected. They would, of course, have no choice but to accept expansion as a military fait accompli. But they would continue to regard it as a rebuff by the West and would likely look elsewhere for guarantees of a secure and hopeful future for themselves.

It will obviously not be easy to change a decision already made or tacitly accepted by the alliance's 16 member countries. But there are a few intervening months before the decision is to be made final; perhaps this period can be used to alter the proposed expansion in ways that would mitigate the unhappy effects it is already having on Russian opinion and policy."

struth
23-09-2022, 07:01
trouble with that arguement is ukraine was never going to be in nato, and unlikely to be in the eu. same can be said for finland and sweden. its all about a madman landgrabbing. a bit like adolf.

struth
23-09-2022, 14:39
Boris Johnson mistakenly thanked Russia's Vladimir Putin for his "inspirational leadership" instead of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The slip-up came during his first major contribution as a backbench MP since being ousted as prime minister.



In a general commons debate on the war in Ukraine, Mr Johnson said it is important to "double down in our defence of the Ukrainians" if Mr Putin doubles down on his "aggression".
Ukraine war latest: Russian foreign minister speaks at UN (https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-news-putin-bluffing-over-nuclear-threat-12541713)
As he listed the reasons why Ukraine's counter-offensive is proving to be successful, though, he inadvertently thanked Mr Putin, before quickly correcting himself and thanking Mr Zelenskyy.





He said: "Thanks to the heroism of the Ukrainian armed forces, thanks in part to the weapons that we are proud to be offering, I congratulate my right honourable friend (James Heappey) on his description of the work of the UK armed forces, the weapons that we're sending, the huge list...
"Thanks also, of course, to the inspirational leadership of Vladimir Putin."

GOOD OLD BORIS :doh:

struth
23-09-2022, 16:46
i wonder if truss could be the shortest pm in history... she appears to be attempting it.:doh: boris to return perhaps is the plan