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Of course there is an element of truth to this, but the difference is that now it is completely true :ner:
There are so many things 'wrong with the world' which we are no longer allowed to comment on without being branded racist, sexist, ageist or pissed, please don't take this away from us :(
As the mighty HMHB put it:
'Friday night and I just love complaining
And no, I haven't got anything better to do'
'Friday Night (and the Gates are Low)'.
And yet their parents were probably brought up the way you describe your generation was (Google tells me millennials are those born between 1981-1996; ie the years you and Marco would be likely to have fathered children), so how come they turned out so badly? Could it just be the usual story of old-ish blokes complaining about 'kids today', like they always have?
Because their parents didn't bring them up the same way they were brought up. They listened to all the fads and the idiocy. I know people with children of similar ages at the moment, some get brought up old school, some modern and trendy. There's a big difference - the modern children are needy and badly behaved. The old school ones are more independent and are well behaved, it's like they are 3 or 4 years older.
Exactly my experience, too!:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
18-05-2019, 16:48
Because their parents didn't bring them up the same way they were brought up. They listened to all the fads and the idiocy. I know people with children of similar ages at the moment, some get brought up old school, some modern and trendy. There's a big difference - the modern children are needy and badly behaved. The old school ones are more independent and are well behaved, it's like they are 3 or 4 years older.
I think my upbringing was pretty 'old school', that is to say that apart from the major stuff I was left to bring myself up, and this suited me fine.
Getting myself up in the morning, dressing myself and making my own breakfast, and getting myself off to school. And no lifts! Taught me to be independent, and I've grown up to be pretty normal I think. Apart from the squint and the short term memory loss. Also I used to make my own breakfast and get myself off to school. Did I mention that already?
Ninanina
18-05-2019, 17:26
My upbringing was certainly 'old school' and pretty strict
I've turned out ok I reckon... I wouldn't say 'normal' though :doh:
The rubbing of an onion held with tongs on the hot BBQ grill to clean it is rubbish - I was disappointed. Non-treated Brillo style BBQ pad with some oil on it anyday.
Ninanina
18-05-2019, 18:20
The rubbing of an onion held with tongs on the hot BBQ grill to clean it is rubbish - I was disappointed. Non-treated Brillo style BBQ pad with some oil on it anyday.
Never heard of the onion trick for BBQ cleaning... ;)
walpurgis
18-05-2019, 18:30
Waste of an onion...........but that's Ok, I hate onion! :)
Ninanina
18-05-2019, 18:53
... Now cucumbers, don't be asking Bev why that aroma may accompany her, but it's probably not because she's just been to the greengrocers:eyebrows:
:rfl:
Only just seen this.... indeed.... :lol:
:eyebrows::eyebrows:
Naughty is nice;)
Marco.
Ninanina
18-05-2019, 20:16
Too true... I love naughty... :lol:
Now... where did I put that cu... :eyebrows:
Another successful apple danish raid. Got in there before they even turned the lights on!
Amazing what people buy. Woman in front of me was getting about ten cartons of sterilised milk and some pre-packaged salad. 'What's for tea tonight love?' - prepare to be disappointed.
He'll probably also feel the same about the underwear she's bought:eyebrows:
Now if there had been a packet of fish fingers in there....
Anyway, did you buy any real food while you were there, or are you still on your apple danish and Mars bar diet?;)
Marco.
got some yogurts and bananas, do they count?
Lol... Kind of. So what are you having for your lunch or tea today, apart from apple danishes?
Marco.
Probably have a chippy tea. Or lamb chops from Kebab City. Depends what I fancy later on.
Ah, so that's the answer... You actually eat FOOD, just that you don't cook much of it yourself, and which is therefore reflected in your supermarket shopping;)
Marco.
Pretty much. Lots of good take-aways here within a few hundred yards, why bother doing it yourself?
Pretty much. Lots of good take-aways here within a few hundred yards, why bother doing it yourself?
its a solution, no doubt... would do it myself if richer.
I'm cash rich and time poor. When it's the other way around I cook for myself.
Big rationalisation coming up at work though so might soon be back to that. :)
Pretty much. Lots of good take-aways here within a few hundred yards, why bother doing it yourself?
Whatever works mate, but not exactly healthy...
Marco.
They cook the lamb chops, or I cook them, don't see what difference it makes health-wise.
Not so much that, but normal takeaways, such as curries, Chinese and fish and chips. It's all the saturated fat and salt. You might not put weight on, but it impacts adversely on your cholesterol levels and blood pressure, which is very bad for you.
Plus, with me, I like knowing what goes in my food and how clean the kitchen is where it's been prepared/cooked (and also the hands of person cooking it), and how fresh the raw ingredients are, none of which is possible with takeaway food, which is why I rarely have it.
Aside from anything else, high standards of food hygiene for me are absolutely paramount:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
19-05-2019, 15:48
Not so much that, but normal takeaways, such as curries, Chinese and fish and chips. It's all the saturated fat and salt. You might not put weight on, but it impacts adversely on your cholesterol levels and blood pressure, which is very bad for you.
Plus, with me, I like knowing what goes in my food and how clean the kitchen is where it's been prepared/cooked (and also the hands of person cooking it), and how fresh the raw ingredients are, none of which is possible with takeaway food, which is why I rarely have it.
Aside from anything else, high standards of food hygiene for me are absolutely paramount:)
Marco.
Luckily for your mum and dad (and you), the good people of Glasgow didn't share your views on takeaways :D You do seem to frequent a lot of small and family-run restaurants, and presumably the same rules apply there. Do they not get the hump when you insist on inspecting the kitchen and staff prior to ordering your meal?
Lol... Firstly, about our chip-shops, you're absolutely right! It's was (and still is, if you run a chippy) about targeting a market, and what essentially is a British tradition. You'll never find a chip-shop in Italy, but that doesn't mean there's not a good business to be had from selling the product to the Brits!;)
We rarely ate fish and chips ourselves (or deep-fried food like that), maybe once a week, tops, despite it essentially being a free meal, but there were huge queues outside both our shops on Friday and Saturday nights, in particular, as my did was a stickler for the quality of food he served to his customers, and his shops were always spotless [just the way he is/was]:)
As for the pubs we go to for lunch, well yes, you can't inspect their kitchens, but that's a chance I'm willing to take, as I like a nice pint of beer and also someone else doing all the cooking and washing up for a change, and of course we're fussy about where we eat out!
Takeaways, I can take or leave (no pun intended), and have them pretty infrequently. I much prefer Del's cooking, whether it be traditional Italian food, French or Chinese or Indian!:D
Macca's had one of her curries., which I believe he quite enjoyed.....
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
19-05-2019, 16:23
I'm guessing then that your dad may have done his fish & chips English style rather than Scottish :D
This may be a presumption, but the last two times I visited a Scottish chippy (once in Dumfries across from McDonalds and once from an establishment called Frankies on the road up to Ayr) the salt covered everything like snow and I had to launch the top third of the meal. And the pie I bought at Frankies, well, I bit into the pie and about half a pint of liquid fat burst out and soaked the front of my new blouse. What's that all about? Deep fried pie?
I'm guessing then that your dad may have done his fish & chips English style rather than Scottish :D
This may be a presumption, but the last two times I visited a Scottish chippy (once in Dumfries across from McDonalds and once from an establishment called Frankies on the road up to Ayr) the salt covered everything like snow and I had to launch the top third of the meal. And the pie I bought at Frankies, well, I bit into the pie and about half a pint of liquid fat burst out and soaked the front of my new blouse. What's that all about? Deep fried pie?
We always asked customers if they wanted salt or vinegar, and if they said yes to one or the other, or both, put it on slowly in front of them, and allowed them to say how much they wanted. No way would it be drowned in salt or vinegar, unless that's what was wanted.
Plus, the fish used (mostly haddock or whiting) was always obtained fresh from the market in Glasgow, and *never* frozen (as is the case now in the majority of chippies ), which makes a huge difference. My dad also had his own 'secret' batter recipe, and even mixed his own malt vinegar, which had a bit more of a 'kick' to it than the usual stuff, and which customers loved. He only ever used Maris Piper or Kerr's Pinks potatoes [the best for making chips], and all chips were cut and made fresh on the premises, not bought in already cut, as so often is the case these days.
That's where the habit of 'if you're going to do a job, then do it right, or not at all' was instilled in me, which is why anything important I've ever done in life has always been done to the best of my ability, and never half-heartedly!:cool:
Marco.
Not so much that, but normal takeaways, such as curries, Chinese and fish and chips. It's all the saturated fat and salt. You might not put weight on, but it impacts adversely on your cholesterol levels and blood pressure, which is very bad for you.
Plus, with me, I like knowing what goes in my food and how clean the kitchen is where it's been prepared/cooked (and also the hands of person cooking it), and how fresh the raw ingredients are, none of which is possible with takeaway food, which is why I rarely have it.
Aside from anything else, high standards of food hygiene for me are absolutely paramount:)
Marco.
I don't care about any of that. I have whatever I fancy, healthy or not.
Pigmy Pony
19-05-2019, 17:19
As malt vinegar sold for commercial use is a concentrate, the user can decide how much dilution is required. The concentrate itself is pretty minging though.
Anita managed a chippy for a few years, and before that she had her own mobile chippy van which did well until husband number two decided it wasn't worth him missing his "tea on the table when I get home", and made her sell it. So she knows a thing or two about catering. And has become more discerning in her choice of blokes :)
I don't care about any of that. I have whatever I fancy, healthy or not.
Fair enough, that's up to you. I'm rather different. It's one of the reasons why my doctor doesn't know me, and I'm almost never ill:)
Marco.
As malt vinegar sold for commercial use is a concentrate, the user can decide how much dilution is required. The concentrate itself is pretty minging though.
I think he used to experiment with various flavourings and (I think) acetic acids, to give the vinegar he used a unique taste. Customers often asked for little bottles of it to take home.
Anita managed a chippy for a few years, and before that she had her own mobile chippy van which did well until husband number two decided it wasn't worth him missing his "tea on the table when I get home", and made her sell it. So she knows a thing or two about catering. And has become more discerning in her choice of blokes :)
Sounds like a real dinosaur!:rolleyes: I wouldn't have lasted five minutes being like that with Del!! And she wouldn't treat me that way either. I shake my head in disbelief sometimes at what some folk appear to consider as acceptable behaviour in a relationship...:doh:
But yes, I'm sure Anita knew what she was doing when she was in the trade. So in terms of blokes, are you a cut above from what she was used to before [although maybe not in trouser dept]?:D;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
19-05-2019, 19:32
I think he used to experiment with various flavourings and (I think) acetic acids, to give the vinegar he used a unique taste. Customers often asked for little bottles of it to take home.
Sounds like a real dinosaur!:rolleyes: I wouldn't have lasted five minutes being like that with Del!! And she wouldn't treat me that way either. I shake my head in disbelief sometimes at what some folk appear to consider as acceptable behaviour in a relationship...:doh:
But yes, I'm sure Anita knew what she was doing when she was in the trade. So in terms of blokes, are you a cut above from what she was used to before [although maybe not in trouser dept]?:D;)
Marco.
Ah, the trouser dept, I have fond memories of that. Here at PonyMart, during the latest 'rationalisation', the trouser department was closed down as it wasn't paying its way. We managed to hold on to the staff though, we moved them over to Complaints/returns, which has never been busier.
We could write a book on all the different ways that controlling, coercive pile of shit tried to ruin Anita's spirit, but for that you'll have to wait for the book to come out. So he didn't set the bar very high for me. So far I've lasted about twice as long as he did :)
Ah, the trouser dept, I have fond memories of that. Here at PonyMart, during the latest 'rationalisation', the trouser department was closed down as it wasn't paying its way. We managed to hold on to the staff though, we moved them over to Complaints/returns, which has never been busier.
Lol - or exchanges... Then if *it* is disappointing/unfit for purpose, IT can be changed/upgraded for a better model...:eyebrows:
We could write a book on all the different ways that controlling, coercive pile of shit tried to ruin Anita's spirit, but for that you'll have to wait for the book to come out. So he didn't set the bar very high for me. So far I've lasted about twice as long as he did :)
And I'm sure that'll continue, as long as she continues wearing the trousers!:lol:
Only kidding... I don't believe in any of that bollox, or who's 'the boss', and neither does Del... There should be NO 'boss' in a healthy relationship, but rather two equal partners, both working together as a team and playing to each others strengths - and when necessary practising some give and take, for each others mutual benefit or pleasure.
That's why when I see the term 'SWMBO' being bandied about forums, especially in relation to someone (usually a man, but the same would equally apply as 'HWMBO', if it were a woman), not being 'allowed' to have a certain pair of speakers in the lounge, or whatever, it really boils my piss... What the hell's that BULLSHITE about? Why does she (or he) always have the final say and make all the decisions??
And what's most worrying/alarming of all, is that this is presumed as being 'the norm'... Well, not in my world! You often hear (mainly men) uttering this sort of nonsense: "I just do what I'm told for a quiet life". Eh...?:scratch: So you've effectively just signed up for life to be someone's subservient puppy, and their glorified slave? What kind of 'life' is that...?
I blame the fact that a lot of men/wimps seem to like being 'mothered', and so see their wives/partners as simply a mother-replacement, and who accordingly buy/choose their clothes for them, and give them 'pocket money' to spend, after the bills have been paid, etc.. I've seen it happening many times. Very weird!
That mentality is completely alien to Del or me. In my experience however, it does seem to be largely a British thing, especially among couples 'of a certain age', and certainly doesn't occur as often in the likes of Italian (or German) households, where people, both men and women, tend to be stronger willed, thus have minds of their own. Anyway, Anita's well rid of that wanker, mate. She's now got you to enjoy for the duration!!:eek::hmm::D;)
Marco.
I think it's crazy to generalise, especially about nationalities; are most Scottish couples like most English couples, for example? All marriages are different. The fundamental point is that thinking you can 'mould' someone to how you want them to be is doomed to failure. Accept a prospective partner for what they are, and decide if you can live with them long-term on that basis (and they, of course, will have to make the same decision themselves about you).
I think it's crazy to generalise, especially about nationalities; are most Scottish couples like most English couples, for example?
I'm talking about Brits in general. Scottish, English, Irish - it doesn't matter: all have displayed those traits, to varying degrees. Of course I only mean "all" among those I've known, so naturally my views are simply based on that experience. There'll be plenty of others who don't exhibit those traits.
However, how often do you read on UK-based hi-fi forums about 'SWMBO' not allowing some bloke to do this or that? It's rife...
So that also confirms my views, and if you look, you'll not notice many 'foreigners' coming out with that crap. 9 times out of 10, it's someone from the UK, bemoaning that 'her indoors' won't allow him to get something (usually a big pair of speakers) - and that simply backs up what I've also seen in real life with my own eyes.
If my dad had tried that crap with my mum, she'd have given him a well-deserved slap, and vice versa. The same goes in my marriage, and that of anyone else in my family. No-one would put up with being a subservient sheep:nono:
All marriages are different. The fundamental point is that thinking you can 'mould' someone to how you want them to be is doomed to failure. Accept a prospective partner for what they are, and decide if you can live with them long-term on that basis (and they, of course, will have to make the same decision themselves about you).
Indeed. I couldn't agree more. However, one wonders whether some 'marriages' are actually anything of the sort, and more closet dictatorships? Tip: if one person in a relationship starts talking about being 'the boss', then run while you can!! :exactly:
Marco.
I also think the idea that hen pecked husbands is 'largely a British thing' to be absurd. I don't recall Rab C Nesbitt ruling the roof over his wife (or 'hen').
Well, Rab was British, wasn't he? Or does being Scottish exclude you from British citizenship?;)
As I said, I can only speak from my particular experience. However, next time you see the term "SWMBO" used on a hi-fi forum, take a note of the context and where that person is from, and over the course of a year, I guarantee that on somewhere such as here or pfm, both of which are UK-based forums, but with worldwide membership, you'll see more evidence of hen-pecked Brits than foreigners.....
Even if you examine some of the British sitcoms, shown on TV over the years, portraying the lives of married couples, how often was the man portrayed as the 'meek, subservient husband'? I can think of loads, especially during the 70s, and not many (if any) the other way round! Terry & June, George and Mildred, Keeping Up Appearances, to name but three - all featuring heavily henpecked hubbies...
And I can assure you, that's not something you'd have seen in the likes of Italy, France or Germany, then or now!
Marco.
Well, Rab was British, wasn't he? Or does being Scottish exclude you from British citizenship?;)
As I said, I can only speak from my particular experience. Next time you see the term "SWMBO" used on a hi-fi forum, take a note of the context and where that person is from, and over the course of a year, I guarantee that on somewhere such as here or pfm, both of which are UK-based forums, but with worldwide membership, you'll see more evidence of hen-pecked Brits than foreigners.....
Yebbut these are postings on British hifi forums, which are overwhelmingly populated by British people. We don't know whether, for example, such things are mentioned on Italian or Greek hifi forums, and we wouldn't be able to read them if they were.
Even if you look at some of the British sitcoms on TV over the years, portraying the lives of married couples, how often was the man portrayed as the 'meek, subservient husband'? I can think of loads, and not many the other way round!
Marco.
Sitcoms are obviously true-to-life. In reality of course, men were in charge throughout the 1960s and 70s when these sitcoms were made, and the reality for most households was that the husband (who went out to work) usually dictated to the wife (who stayed at home).
The sitcom relationship is comical because the idea (especially pre 1980s) of the woman being the dominant force in the relationship was absurd and hen-pecked husbands are intrinsic figures of fun. And yes, other cultures have similar sitcoms. You don't see them here because they are 'in foreign' and are mostly ripped off from our originals anyway. There's about 6 different foreign take offs of 'Only Fools And Horses.' And the Yanks ripped off Alf Garnet, Steptoe and Son and so on.
In the modern sitcom things have only subtly changed. Women are portrayed as smart and capable and men are dumb and useless. Sadly you also see this sort of emasculation presented in modern children's programmes e.g Peppa Pig. Which is far more insidious, and if you did it in reverse there would be a politically correct outcry like you wouldn't believe. (Would never happen though as a smart man getting the better of a stupid woman isn't funny, so you never see that in comedy of any period or nationality).
Yebbut these are postings on British hifi forums, which are overwhelmingly populated by British people. We don't know whether, for example, such things are mentioned on Italian or Greek hifi forums, and we wouldn't be able to read them if they were.
Yes of course, but the point is there are still more than enough non-Brits posting there for it to be a bit of a 'coincidence' that it rarely, if ever, comes up, even under a different guise.
In my experience, they (especially females) tend to be a bit more accommodating than their British counterparts, which is often reflected in the pictures of member systems and the rooms housing them, shared by married couples or folks living with each other.
Examine how often the hi-fi system is treated as an accepted part of their lives and communal living spaces, and in comparison, how much 'we' talk about 'man caves', etc, and being forced to enjoy our hi-fi or music listening habits alone, or even banished to the garden, because of 'SWMBO'!:D
Sitcoms are obviously true-to-life. In reality of course, men were in charge throughout the 1960s and 70s when these sitcoms were made, and the reality for most households was that the husband (who went out to work) usually dictated to the wife (who stayed at home).
I would agree only insofar as who occupied the most responsible/best paid positions in the working environment (which thankfully is changing now and much improved from what it once was, as I'm all for women's equality).
However, not at home, where in my experience, gained from watching the behaviour of my British friends and/or work colleagues, men were (and still are) largely bossed by their wives, and the sitcoms/soaps of the day reflected that situation, as it's what the majority of viewers would've expected and considered as the norm.
Marco.
The sitcom relationship is comical because the idea (especially pre 1980s) of the woman being the dominant force in the relationship was absurd and hen-pecked husbands are intrinsic figures of fun.
Funny then how I saw it regularly being lived out in front of my eyes when I was a kid and teenager, going round to the houses of my British (Scottish) friends - and how the male/female relationship of their parents, in terms of who was 'in charge', was markedly different from what I experienced at home?
What was it like in your house, in terms of that, when you were a kid: did your parents treat each other as equals, or did one like to think that they were 'the boss', and therefore made all or most of the decisions? For me also, although henpecked husbands were undoubtedly figures of fun in sitcoms, it also largely reflected real life. Like you say, if it had been the other way round, it wouldn't have been funny, so that's why it wasn't done. It wasn't that henpecked husbands weren't in fact a very real phenomenon!
In my job as a salesman, selling all sorts of stuff, over many years to couples living together, married or otherwise, if I'd earned a pound every time I made a sale, where quite clearly, the woman turned out to be the decision maker at home, I can tell you I'd be much richer than if I'd applied the same to the men!;)
It'd be interesting to hear Pigmy's take on this, as he'll be used to similar, when out selling PVC windows. doors and conservatories... And in his experience, who generally gets their own way more, the lady of the house or the man?
Anyway, I suspect we'll just have to agree to disagree on this, which is absolutely fine:)
Marco.
Funny how then I saw it regularly being lived out in front of my eyes when I was a kid and teenager, going round to the houses of my British friends - and how the male/female relationship of their parents, in terms of who was 'in charge', was markedly different from what I experienced at home?
What was it like in your house, in terms of that, when you were a kid: did your parents treat each other as equals, or did one like to think that they were 'the boss', and therefore made all or most of the decisions?
My mother would nag and complain incessantly, my father would mostly ignore her. Make of that what you will. There was rarely any spare money so no decisions about what to spend it on had to be made in any case.
Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
The only times I ever saw my father put his foot down was if it was something that was going to cost a lot of money and was not absolutely necessary, or if something clashed with the football.
my parents were very much equals. sure they argued but no-one had the upper hand. some jobs were obviously more done by one or other tho.if my dad wanted something he would most likely get it. mum wanted less for herself in general i think being a mum, but got anything she wanted too, as long as we could afford it of course.
my dad, or mum wouldnt dare order the other about.
i was the same with wife mostly too.
Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
Well, quite. For most blokes, a chair is just something to sit on; as long as it's comfortable, the colour is irrelevant. It's mainly women who spend hours/days/weeks trying to decide exactly what chair to get, in which fabric. The same with clothes. For blokes, it's usually a case of 'these keks are falling to bits, I need to get a new pair', and also usually a case of buying the same or as near as dammit to what needs replacing.
My mother would nag and complain incessantly, my father would mostly ignore her. Make of that what you will. There was rarely any spare money so no decisions about what to spend it on had to be made in any case.
Lol - that must've been a nightmare to have had to sit and listen to! What was she so unhappy about?
*So* very different from how I grew up... My mum very rarely nagged, and generally was as happy as a pig in shit, simply being the archetypal/textbook housewife and mother, and revelling in the role. Yes, my parents had arguments, quite often heated ones (as both were strong-minded, fiery 'latin types'), but 90% of the time, the atmosphere was relaxed and convivial.
Generally how it was for me, was that mum would be 'in charge' of the house, especially the kitchen, which was fiercely 'her domain' (and that's exactly how *she* wanted it, not necessarily my dad, but he of course happily went along with that, especially as she was such a good cook!) including paying the household bills, doing the food shopping and (mostly) looking after me.
Dad would mostly be 'in charge' of the garden, the garage, where all his tools were (gardening and woodwork), and anything to do with the car or the running of the business - but - if necessary those things were still discussed between them, so it was very much a partnership, and therefore formed what I expected later in my life from a marriage or relationship.
Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
Yes that's true, but I'd still argue that, in general, British males tend to like being 'mothered' more, and so are more tolerant/willing to put up with the behaviour of a bossy wife or partner. Btw, you should've seen the disputes Del and I had when we were designing the new kitchen from scratch!:D
Being very much into art and design (interior or otherwise), I 'care' just as much about such things as she does (and am not bad at it/have a decent 'eye', as it were), even though she has a degree in the subject! However, we thrash out our ideas together and eventually reach a decision that we're BOTH happy with, as I have to live with it as much as she does - arguably more, as I'm at home more than she is - plus, it's me who cleans the house!;)
So.... It's all about working together as a team, not one person riding roughshod over the other, or 'bossing' the other around. That, for me, is the norm, and so I can't understand why anyone, man or woman, would settle for anything less from a relationship:)
Marco.
my parents were very much equals. sure they argued but no-one had the upper hand. some jobs were obviously more done by one or other tho.if my dad wanted something he would most likely get it. mum wanted less for herself in general i think being a mum, but got anything she wanted too, as long as we could afford it of course.
my dad, or mum wouldnt dare order the other about.
i was the same with wife mostly too.
We're on the same page there mate, much as I would've expected!;)
Marco.
Well, quite. For most blokes, a chair is just something to sit on; as long as it's comfortable, the colour is irrelevant. It's mainly women who spend hours/days/weeks trying to decide exactly what chair to get, in which fabric.
:lol::lol:
Erm, no, not necessarily, certainly not in my case. Sorry, but that's a rather old-fashioned (and outdated) viewpoint!
Macca knows from the discussions in the mod room at the time our new kitchen was being done, how involved I was in the process. Del and I spent DAYS deciding on the colour of paint for the walls, and also the units, and even the handles on the drawers (as everything was bespoke made), not to mention anything else!:D
Marco.
I was exaggerating for comic effect, but, broadly speaking, I don't have a particularly good 'eye' for colour, and I'm not much cop at visualising what a room will look like with different furniture or a different arrangement of furniture, so I leave the important decisions on that to Caroline (though it's usually me who does the actual decorating, as she's not much cop at transferring paint from brush to wall).
No worries... And quite right too, if she's much better at it than you. That's another thing that's key to a successful relationship: always embrace and accept your limitations! But also recognise and put into practice what you're good at.
A bugbear of mine is guys trying to kid themselves on that they're good at DIY, simply because it's considered as 'manly', and so taking on jobs that they're clearly incapable of doing and making a total ARSE/pig's ear of it... That situation is made worse, when the goal was to save money from employing the services of a professional, as it usually ends up costing more to fix the subsequent mess!!:lol:
I'll do what jobs I can comfortably perform to an acceptable standard. Anything else, and I'll seek the necessary assistance. Quite simply, if you can't do a job to the same standard as a professional tradesman, then in the long run, it's a false economy. And I cannot abide 'bodges'!!:nono:
Marco.
Lol - that must've been a nightmare to have had to sit and listen to! What was she so unhappy about?
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God alone knows. I moved out the day after I finished my A levels. I had a countdown going for the last six months.
My mother didn't go in for mothering or cooking or any of that stuff. She liked going to the shops and talking to her friends. Anything that took time away from doing that was a negative to her. My father was overseas a lot, but when he was home his attitude was that you had to work out your problems for yourself so don't come bothering him with anything. So we were left to our own devices pretty much.
Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
The other thing, in relation to the above, and returning to the whole 'SWMBO' thing, with hi-fi, is that if the above is true, and I don't doubt it, then that would explain why women married to blokes with an interest in hi-fi are usually in charge of what's 'allowed' in the lounge....
So the blokes concerned only have themselves to blame for not being 'bothered' enough about what the house was like, and for going along with whatever 'SWMBO' wanted, and therefore shouldn't moan on hi-fi forums now about not being 'allowed' to have a big pair of speakers (or whatever)!!:D
As they say, you reap what you sow... So man the fuck up in the first place, and speak your mind, or 'she' will just walk all over you ....;)
Themz the facts, muchachos.
Marco.
God alone knows. I moved out the day after I finished my A levels. I had a countdown going for the last six months.
My mother didn't go in for mothering or cooking or any of that stuff. She liked going to the shops and talking to her friends. Anything that took time away from doing that was a negative to her. My father was overseas a lot, but when he was home his attitude was that you had to work out your problems for yourself so don't come bothering him with anything. So we were left to our own devices pretty much.
Ok, no worries. Again, very different from what I was used to. I hope the experience didn't impact on you too negatively, as it all sounds rather cold and distant...
I've always been very close to my mum and dad, being able to discuss anything with them (I guess partly arising from being an only child), and that's why I have the type of relationship I do now with my dad (still enjoying his company regularly), and indeed did with my mum right up until she died.
Anyway, at least you go and visit your mum, so you guys must still get on ok:)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
20-05-2019, 20:58
I'm probably one of the worst offenders when it comes to comments like SWMBO, or "her indoors", but I use it just for comic effect, as I suspect many others may do. Truth is, all decisions are arrived at by mutual consent, things such as holidays, décor, furniture and cars. Although things that Anita knows mean more to me, like hifi and music purchases I pretty much get free rein on, finances permitting.
I know there'll be some relationships where the hubby "brings home the bacon" while the little lady stays at home and keeps the place nice. And she is given an allowance to pay for food and kid's clothes etc. This is how Anita's previous dickhead did things. Then there will be couples where the hubby hands over his wages and gets some spending money. Neither of these arrangements would work for us. We pool our incomes and everything comes from that "pot".
The comments I post about Mrs. P should be taken with a pinch of salt. The reality is that we are two possibly slightly broken individuals who combine to make one reasonably well functioning machine. We are a team, and through love and mutual respect we get by pretty well.
I have no right to impose my will on Anita, and I know she feels the same about me :)
That's all cool, Steve... However, in your experience, throughout your time in sales, selling UPVC doors, windows or whatever, among those you've dealt with to date as customers, who would you say generally are the decision makers, when you close a deal, the men or the women of the house, or is it fairly even?:)
Marco.
walpurgis
20-05-2019, 21:21
I'm probably one of the worst offenders when it comes to comments like SWMBO, or "her indoors"
Neither are terms I've used. I've got a 'she who has a moan, but eventually gives up 'cos she realises it's like banging her head on the wall'. :D
Neither are terms I've used. I've got a 'she who has a moan, but eventually gives up 'cos she realises it's like banging her head on the wall'. :D
Ah - you mean 'SWHAMBEGUCSRILBHHOTW'. :lol:
walpurgis
20-05-2019, 21:28
:lolsign:
Beobloke
21-05-2019, 11:49
Generally how it was for me, was that mum would be 'in charge' of the house, especially the kitchen, which was fiercely 'her domain' (and that's exactly how *she* wanted it, not necessarily my dad, but he of course happily went along with that, especially as she was such a good cook!) including paying the household bills, doing the food shopping and (mostly) looking after me.
Dad would mostly be 'in charge' of the garden, the garage, where all his tools were (gardening and woodwork), and anything to do with the car or the running of the business - but - if necessary those things were still discussed between them, so it was very much a partnership, and therefore formed what I expected later in my life from a marriage or relationship.
I’m not casting aspersions on your situation at all, Marco but, to me that’s almost too much the other way and is almost back in the 1950s way of thinking – the man does the 'blue' man jobs and the woman does the 'pink' girly things and has the house neat and tidy with dinner on the table when he comes home? Stuff that! I couldn't think of anything worse, personally.
However, I am absolutely with you on the equal partnership thing, but my experiences come from having strong female role models in my life. My parents had me late in life so by the time I was a teenager my father had taken early retirement and did a lot of the household running as my mother still worked. Equally, my sister is the main breadwinner in her house and Mrs. B is in charge of global statutory accounting for a US publishing company and earns four times what I do! As a result, I actually do more of the ‘pink’ jobs than most men, purely because of the long hours she works. I cook during the week, do most of the day-to-day housework and if I want something ironed, I’ll give you three guesses who does it! On the other hand, at the weekend, you’ll often find Ursula mowing the lawn whilst I trim the hedges or something like that. We do what is needed when it is needed without any rules.
In my job as a salesman, selling all sorts of stuff, over many years to couples living together, married or otherwise, if I'd earned a pound every time I made a sale, where quite clearly, the woman turned out to be the decision maker at home, I can tell you I'd be much richer than if I'd applied the same to the men!;)
I also have to pick up on this point as well. As mentioned Ursula is the big earner and having any salesmen come to the house is often entertaining for all the wrong reasons! Any tradesmen we have taken on are the ones who speak to us as equals and never assume that she is the ‘little woman’. I remember in our last house, one double glazing salesman and one guttering salesman where I struggled to hide my mirth. Their sales pitches were excellent but both directed all their comments to me and only referred to Ursula very infrequently – one actually made some sort of classic “shoes and handbags” type crack and I almost exploded trying to hold my laughter in, as I knew he wouldn’t be getting the job. Fortunately this sort of Neanderthal behaviour seems to be on the way out, which is a good thing.
I did all of both...:ner:
Hi Adam,
I’m not casting aspersions on your situation at all, Marco but, to me that’s almost too much the other way and is almost back in the 1950s way of thinking – the man does the 'blue' man jobs and the woman does the 'pink' girly things and has the house neat and tidy with dinner on the table when he comes home? Stuff that! I couldn't think of anything worse, personally.
Well, firstly I'm only stating how it was when I was growing up, and apart from being a big daftee:eyebrows: it hasn't done me any harm! Secondly, whilst I appreciate where you're coming from, and taken to extremes no rigid way of thinking or behaviour is good, I disagree that having strong morals and old-fashioned family values is a bad thing.
Maybe if more parents today had time to bring up their kids properly, in a stable and loving environment (rather than both working all the hours under the sun, to fund a lifestyle they can ill afford, and as a result not bonding properly with them, and which they later grow to regret), as I was very fortunate to have, and crucially, brought children into the world for the right reasons in the first place, the world wouldn't be in its current state?
For me, if you can ever see your kids as an 'inconvenience' or stifling your social life, and feel resentful towards them for that reason, as was intimated earlier, then quite frankly, you shouldn't have had them in the first place! The fact is, once you have kids, your life has changed forever, and what's best for YOU is no longer your priority.
There are too many 'damaged goods' [people with serious emotional issues] around these days, from being brought into this world, as a result of a drunken fumble in the back of bus (or its equivalent), and who end up with 'parents' who don't give a damn and aren't worthy of the name, then end up suffering the consequences, so for me the traditional father/mother roles in parenting, whilst not perfect, still have a lot going for them.
Don't get me wrong though, when I said that's what I've grown to expect from a marital relationship, I didn't mean having 'wifey' stuck in front of the kitchen sink and slaving over a hot stove all day, while I 'bring home the bacon', as it were, but rather the respecting of each other as equals and working together as a team, as opposed to the opposite, which is so often in evidence these days! Ultimately, it's about what works best in a relationship and keeps both people feeling happy and fulfilled.
That's certainly the case in my marriage, as I'm sure it is in yours:)
I also have to pick up on this point as well. As mentioned Ursula is the big earner and having any salesmen come to the house is often entertaining for all the wrong reasons! Any tradesmen we have taken on are the ones who speak to us as equals and never assume that she is the ‘little woman’. I remember in our last house, one double glazing salesman and one guttering salesman where I struggled to hide my mirth. Their sales pitches were excellent but both directed all their comments to me and only referred to Ursula very infrequently – one actually made some sort of classic “shoes and handbags” type crack and I almost exploded trying to hold my laughter in, as I knew he wouldn’t be getting the job. Fortunately this sort of Neanderthal behaviour seems to be on the way out, which is a good thing.
Lol - that's really funny. I can relate to it *so* well, as I've seen it happening many times!
I wasn't insinuating that as a salesman you should take for granted who the decision maker is (man or woman), as that's a sure recipe for failure, but that quite simply in 35-odd years of selling, when it comes to things for the house, it's mostly the women in a relationship who make the final decisions, which is of course neatly highlighted by your point about Ursula!;)
Also, the best salespeople NEVER rely on 'sales pitches' to close deals, as anyone with sufficient intelligence can see right through them!!
Instead, you use your charm, people skills, overall knowledge of the product, and professionalism, to inspire confidence in the customer and make them feel comfortable with you, and LIKE you, [a good rapport must be established between both of you] because more often than not in face-to-face selling, only if someone LIKES you, will they buy from you - and that has been my recipe for success, for many years, as a salesman and businessman.
Transparent 'sales pitches' are for the fly-by-nights and those who *think* that they're good salespeople, but aren't, as there is unlikely any substance or longevity to a relationship between a customer and salesperson, if it's been built upon a superficial 'sales pitch' - and the only way to stay in business and create a stable longterm income, is to have loyal customers...
However, they soon learn the hard way, and that in the long term, scams or sales pitches don't work, much like using 'chat up lines' on girls!:D
Marco.
Beobloke
21-05-2019, 14:03
....brought children into the world for the right reasons in the first place....
Marco.
Counts me out, then, sadly.
I was born 9 months after my mum was sterilised, so am a terrible accident/wondrous miracle - delete as applicable! :D
Lol - you were born quite simply to keep B&O on the map!:D
Anyway, I trust we're largely on the same page, in terms of what I've just written?
Marco.
Also, the best salespeople NEVER rely on 'sales pitches' to close deals, as anyone with sufficient intelligence can see right through them!!
Instead, you rely on your charm, people skills, overall knowledge of the product, and professionalism, to inspire confidence in the customer and make them feel comfortable with you, and LIKE you, [a good rapport must be established between the customer and you] because more often than not in face-to-face selling, only if someone LIKES you, will they buy from you - and that has been my recipe for success, for many years, as a salesman and businessman.
Transparent 'sales pitches' are for the fly-by-nights and those who *think* that they're good salespeople, but aren't, as there is unlikely any substance or longevity to a relationship between a customer and salesperson, if it's been built upon a superficial 'sales pitch' - and the only way to stay in business and create a stable longterm income, is to have loyal customers...
However, they soon learn the hard way, and that in the long term, scams or sales pitches don't work, much like using 'chat up lines' on girls!:D
Marco.
As Sam Goldwyn said: 'The most important thing is sincerity. If you can fake that, you got it made'.
Lol...Not really, because fakes are eventually shown up for what they are! Best plan in life, whether selling to people or otherwise, is to just be yourself:)
Marco.
Beobloke
21-05-2019, 18:13
Lol - you were born quite simply to keep B&O on the map!:D
Anyway, I trust we're largely on the same page, in terms of what I've just written?
Marco.
Absolutely. To both statement and question!
Pigmy Pony
21-05-2019, 18:22
That's all cool, Steve... However, in your experience, throughout your time in sales, selling UPVC doors, windows or whatever, among those you've dealt with to date as customers, who would you say generally are the decision makers, when you close a deal, the men or the women of the house, or is it fairly even?:)
Marco.
I'm not sure my input on this would be helpful, as I've never been a salesman as such. Pretty much all my jobs have come through recommendations from their friends/family, and so the work was already mine, affordability permitting, and I didn't spoil it by farting*
When I visit them they generally have already decided what they want. I don't know who had the final say in these decisions, and when I'm discussing the work with them I always include both in the discussion, maintaining eye contact between them both, so they both feel that their input is equally valid, which of course it is. I don't know whether this is the way it is done in sales, it's just the way I deal with folk, and (touch wood) I always seem to 'hit it off' with customers :)
Having said that it's usually the man who does most of the talking, but I think that's probably more to do with men usually having a better understanding of the nuts & bolts of what's involved. I imagine if I was selling 'home' products like carpets, furnishing, kitchens etc., the dynamic would be different.
But my view is that regardless of which spouse appears to be in charge, as long as it's an arrangement they are both happy with, then it's fine.
*We once had a bloke come round selling us life insurance, and as we sat on the sofa while he stood in front of us delivering his pitch he did a fart which was so loud even the cat looked up, and he never broke his stride, just inserted an "Excuse me" into his pitch and carried on. Then he said "Ooh nice speakers, Acoustic Research are they?" He almost made the sale, but unfortunately he had the same whiney voice as the bloke that bullied me when I was an apprentice, so sending him away felt like justice. Poor man.
As Sam Goldwyn said: 'The most important thing is sincerity. If you can fake that, you got it made'.
Ha, that made me laugh :D
Ninanina
21-05-2019, 21:54
The reality is that we are two possibly slightly broken individuals who combine to make one reasonably well functioning machine. We are a team, and through love and mutual respect we get by pretty well.
I have no right to impose my will on Anita, and I know she feels the same about me :)
Just seen your post Steve and I reckon that's spot on.. If I wanted to rule in a relationship I probably could as I'm generally the stronger willed one but I learnt long ago not to do that...;)
Pigmy Pony
21-05-2019, 22:07
Just seen your post Steve and I reckon that's spot on.. If I wanted to rule in a relationship I probably could as I'm generally the stronger willed one but I learnt long ago not to do that...;)
It's clear that you are indeed strong willed - why else would you resist my offer of a solar powered dancing hula girl even when we all know she would compliment your Mark Levinson gear perfectly?
Ninanina
21-05-2019, 22:12
It's clear that you are indeed strong willed - why else would you resist my offer of a solar powered dancing hula girl even when we all know she would compliment your Mark Levinson gear perfectly?
:rfl:
What about a Hula Guy ? like this one:
http://i.imgur.com/N3mrzUe.jpg (https://imgur.com/N3mrzUe)
Pigmy Pony
21-05-2019, 22:25
Oh, you're here! Now I'm going to have to be strong willed enough to leave my laptop and jump in my bath which I ran an hour ago and is probably cold now. :(
That hula bloke just looks wrong - sort of like American Dad on holiday - what would Francine think?
Ninanina
21-05-2019, 22:35
Hope it's not too chilly.... ;)
I know the guy doesn't look quite right but there isn't the choice like there is with girly hula's... :(
marriage is a constant battle for moral superiority, by most these days.
walpurgis
22-05-2019, 08:01
Here we go, another "have they really got nothing better to do" instance. The moaners moaning about 'digital assistant gender bias'. Does any normal person really give a toss? I really can't see my whole world collapsing over this! :rolleyes:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/22/digital-voice-assistants-siri-alexa-gender-biases-unesco-says
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/05/21/female-voiced-smart-speaker-systems-entrench-gender-bias-un/
Here we go, another "have they really got nothing better to do" instance. The moaners moaning about 'digital assistant gender bias'. Does any normal person really give a toss? I really can't see my whole world collapsing over this! :rolleyes:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/22/digital-voice-assistants-siri-alexa-gender-biases-unesco-says
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/05/21/female-voiced-smart-speaker-systems-entrench-gender-bias-un/
tis bollocks.
walpurgis
22-05-2019, 08:18
I wonder how much money the UN squandered on this?
I wonder how much money the UN squandered on this?
i bet the committee all got new phones, tablets pcs etc and of course they needed to do a survey of the beaches of Barbados to get there
marriage is a constant battle for moral superiority, by most these days.
Mmm, interesting... What makes you think that and why?:)
It's certainly not something I've experienced.
Marco.
I'm not sure my input on this would be helpful, as I've never been a salesman as such. Pretty much all my jobs have come through recommendations from their friends/family, and so the work was already mine, affordability permitting, and I didn't spoil it by farting*
When I visit them they generally have already decided what they want. I don't know who had the final say in these decisions, and when I'm discussing the work with them I always include both in the discussion, maintaining eye contact between them both, so they both feel that their input is equally valid, which of course it is. I don't know whether this is the way it is done in sales, it's just the way I deal with folk, and (touch wood) I always seem to 'hit it off' with customers :)
Having said that it's usually the man who does most of the talking, but I think that's probably more to do with men usually having a better understanding of the nuts & bolts of what's involved. I imagine if I was selling 'home' products like carpets, furnishing, kitchens etc., the dynamic would be different.
But my view is that regardless of which spouse appears to be in charge, as long as it's an arrangement they are both happy with, then it's fine.
*We once had a bloke come round selling us life insurance, and as we sat on the sofa while he stood in front of us delivering his pitch he did a fart which was so loud even the cat looked up, and he never broke his stride, just inserted an "Excuse me" into his pitch and carried on. Then he said "Ooh nice speakers, Acoustic Research are they?" He almost made the sale, but unfortunately he had the same whiney voice as the bloke that bullied me when I was an apprentice, so sending him away felt like justice. Poor man.
Lol - the fart thing was hilarious! I'd have chucked the smelly bastard out, though... Or was his gas release 'all air and no action'? You know those farts that sound bad, but smell of nothing? It's the hot silent (but violent) ones that are the killers!:D
Noted on the rest. I didn't know exactly what your role was, or what your job entailed, and thought you were a salesman, not just a fitter. Cool beans:cool:
Marco.
Mmm, interesting... What makes you think that and why?:)
It's certainly not something I've experienced.
Marco.
You see it all the time. women especially love to hold something over her man, and every now and then bring it up so she gets her way
Fair enough... Not a nice trait though, and I'd suggest if a woman does that, then she cares far more about herself, than she does about her partner.
It always shocks me to hear about that sort of behaviour, because it shows that folk are getting married/having relationships with the wrong people, and not really getting together for the right reasons, more selfish ones, than actually wanting deep down to form a partnership based on mutual love and respect.
For me, that is the *ONLY* valid reason for two people to get married or begin a long-term relationship, so if you can't put a BIG tick in that box, then move on, and heaven forbid don't bring any kids into the world on the basis of that type of relationship, as they'll only end up suffering because of it...
Marco.
most folk do get married for wrong reasons; hence the high divorce rates and all the broken/unhappy homes and people. sad but true
Indeed... I don't get it though, as I'd rather be single than in an unhappy relationship with the wrong person.
No-one's forcing you to marry or go out with someone, so if you make the decision to do so, then consider it properly before going ahead (especially when you're legally committing yourself to someone in marriage) - and most importantly as soon as it's obvious that it's not working (after trying your best to make it work), get out and move on.
Life's too short to spend it being miserable with someone who patently doesn't love or respect you!:)
Marco.
well there are a lot of devious people out there.. best i say no more. i will get attacked :(
Lol - not sure who would be attacking you, but no worries. Yes there are lots of devious people out there, but if you've got any sense about you at all, you'll weed that out of them during the 'trial period'... Ah, so what's that then, I hear you say?
Well, if we're talking about marriage, then there's this thing called 'engagement', which is a vital part of the process, not to be skipped, before committing yourself to the 'main event', as it were.
My view is that no-one should commit to marrying someone without FIRST having lived with them under the same roof, for a year minimum, either officially engaged or not, but that period of time is absolutely VITAL, in order to get to know someone properly, and all their good and bad points, and to assess whether they're someone you could happily live with for the rest of your life.
And during that time, the 'deviousness' you speak of should raise its ugly head, and be recognised and dealt with, if you're any kind of decent judge of character... If not, then hell mend you.
Del and I lived together for 2 years before we got married, so we knew each other inside out, before committing ourselves to each other for life - and nearly 28 years on, we're still as happy together now, as we were then, partly because we did the proper 'groundwork', rather than simply rushing in and making a huge mistake!
For me, this is all basic common sense, so I honestly struggle to understand why so many people get it wrong:scratch:
Marco.
Audio Al
22-05-2019, 11:09
A forum person has been very helpful to me recently , I won't say who it is in case he gets innundated with requests , YOU know who you are ;)
Thank you ;)
If he want's to own up that will be his choice :):cool:
Lol... It's what the AoS community is all about mate, and I know you'd do the same:)
Marco.
Audio Al
22-05-2019, 11:20
Lol... It's what the AoS community is all about mate, and I know you'd do the same:)
Marco.
Now let me think:hmm:
:upyours: :lolsign:
Marco.
Al is a gent.....mostly:ner: no, he is:)
Absolutely... And so gents are treated like gents, and c*nts are treated as c*nts;)
I'm always nice those who are nice to me, and equally 'reciprocate' [and then some] when that's not the case!:eek::D
Such is the way of life....... Treat others as you yourself would like to be treated, and if not, then accept the consequences. Simples:)
Marco.
Absolutely... And so gents are treated like gents, and c*nts are treated as c*nts;)
I'm always nice those who are nice to me, and equally 'reciprocate' [and then some] when that's not the case!:eek::D
Such is the way of life....... Treat others as you yourself would like to be treated, and if not, then accept the consequences. Simples:)
Marco.
if they treat you bad, you'll take your belt off and by God, your trousers will fall down:ner:
Audio Al
22-05-2019, 13:03
if they treat you bad, you'll take your belt off and by God, your trousers will fall down:ner:
:lol::D
if they treat you bad, you'll take your belt off and by God, your trousers will fall down:ner:
Oooh.....suits you, sir! Some of them might like that though, particularly the sad, henpecked inadequates of this world, as it's the only 'fun' they're likely to get!:lol:
Marco.
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 17:07
I know a few married couples that really shouldn't be as they are very unhappy and certainly not fulfilled and I just don't understand why they stick together. I think some people are frightened to go it alone for some reason...
I choose to remain single as I'm quite happy to see guys when I need/want to and please myself when I don't... ooops that sounded wrong :eek: but you know what I mean..;)
I know a few married couples that really shouldn't be as they are very unhappy and certainly not fulfilled and I just don't understand why they stick together. I think some people are frightened to go it alone for some reason...
I left my first wife almost 20 years ago, having been with her for 10 years and married for 5. I got married to her for the wrong reasons, and realised it was better for both of us if I left. I had no affair, hadn't been seeing anyone else or had my eye on anyone, so I did "go it alone" but no one would believe me! Everyone assumed I'd left her for someone else. When I did start dating again a few months later, everyone then assumed she'd been "waiting in the wings" for the dust to settle, which just wasn't true.
Thinking about it, I think it was probably harder for my ex and her family to accept that I'd just left her - if there was another woman then there would be someone to blame, rather than have to accept that it was the "fault" of the marriage just not working.
Never thought I'd get married again, and certainly didn't think I wanted children - now I can't imagine my life any other way - but for my "bachelor years" in between when I had my own flat and could do what I pleased without worry it was a great time, and I certainly wouldn't be scared of being on my own again. And yes, you can't beat "pleasing yourself" can you? :eyebrows:
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 18:14
And yes, you can't beat "pleasing yourself" can you? :eyebrows:
Absolutely Alex... :eek:
I know what you mean about it being maybe easier to 'blame' someone else for a breakup but it sounds like you left for all the right reasons... and well done to you for getting out of a marriage that wasn't working... ;) best way I reckon
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 18:40
The place where I have my pedi's & manicure's does what they call 'specialist waxing'....
Now do I go for it or not?... it might well be very ouchy indeed.... but I do fancy a nice landing strip or the full Hollywood look ... I just can't decide... :lol:
Might be better than using chemicals I thought...
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 20:53
So nobody want's to 'go there' then... :eek:
It's your landing strip lass [emoji23]
I suspect we're not likely "Subject Matter Experts" here Nina. For what it's worth, I did get my back waxed once (in my above mentioned "bachelor period" as it happens!) and that was excruciating (so I stopped at back, no sack or crack, nooooo siiirrreee!)
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 21:31
That might be true Alex...
I think I will give it a go though... if only to rule it in or out I guess... ;)
So nobody want's to 'go there' then... :eek:
Would it be like forest clearance, or more like tidying up the lawn?
I pulled a nose hair once.. Lol
Also waxed the wife a few times
That was fun... For me lol
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 21:33
Would it be like forest clearance, or more like tidying up the lawn?
:rfl:
Definitely just a tidy up Joe....
Audio Al
22-05-2019, 23:05
My ex wife did her tidying up when in the shower , Then blamed me for all the hair in the plug hole :eek::doh:
Ninanina
22-05-2019, 23:07
My ex wife did her tidying up when in the shower , Then blamed me for all the hair in the plug hole :eek::doh:
Ouch Al.... :doh:
I can't shave as my skin is too sensitive for that...apart from legs, they are ok being shaved..
Pigmy Pony
23-05-2019, 06:25
So nobody want's to 'go there' then... :eek:
Always happy to 'go there', but I'm by no means an expert, not even a gifted amateur. Although 'lady gardening' as a career move does appeal to me.
Excuse my ignorance, but does the 'landing strip' include landing lights? Safety has to be paramount - imagine it's night time, no landing lights, and a Being 767 comes in to land, when you were really expecting a Cessna. :eek:
And what's a 'Hollywood' look? Would it include a red carpet like at the Oscars?
Pigmy Pony
23-05-2019, 06:58
https://youtu.be/kuD8sukGLuo
Well that was a rubbish vid sound wise. Oh well
Excuse my ignorance, but does the 'landing strip' include landing lights? Safety has to be paramount - imagine it's night time, no landing lights, and a Being 767 comes in to land, when you were really expecting a Cessna. :eek:
Absolutely, and what happens if the flaps won't open, when the plane's about to land, if they haven't been serviced recently? The starboard release flange needs regular lubricating. And we haven't discussed traffic control... How many planes are allowed to enter the landing strip at once?
In any case, I suspect that only jumbo jets are allowed to entry to Bev's airport.
Marco.
Absolutely, and what happens if the flaps won't open, when the plane's about to land, if they haven't been serviced recently? The starboard release flange needs regular lubricating. And we haven't discussed traffic control... How many planes are allowed to enter the landing strip at once?
In any case, I suspect that only jumbo jets are allowed to entry to Bev's airport.
Marco.
a jumbo dont need no stinkin' flaps :eyebrows:
https://youtu.be/kuD8sukGLuo
Well that was a rubbish vid sound wise. Oh well
You need to learn how to embed YT vids, like so:
https://youtu.be/kuD8sukGLuo
Daddy will teach you;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
23-05-2019, 15:10
You need to learn how to embed YT vids, like so:
https://youtu.be/kuD8sukGLuo
Daddy will teach you;)
Marco.
Cheers Marco, a great comedy moment I think.
Apparently it was done 'live', and no special effects, just one painful take.
As many airports have more than one landing strip, the landing lights are extra important - If the jumbo jet accidentally comes into runway 2 without permission from air traffic control the pilot would be in the shit, for sure. :eek:
Ryanair levy a surcharge for using runway two.
Ninanina
25-05-2019, 19:07
Excuse my ignorance, but does the 'landing strip' include landing lights? Safety has to be paramount
No there won't be any landing lights :lol:
In any case, I suspect that only jumbo jets are allowed to entry to Bev's airport.
You have to remember there are wide bodied jets as well as jumbo's and either would be a snug fit in my airport :eyebrows:
If the jumbo jet accidentally comes into runway 2 without permission from air traffic control the pilot would be in the shit, for sure. :eek:
:rfl::rfl: Now that one really cracked me up... :lol:
Ninanina
25-05-2019, 23:14
And after a 20 mile bike ride today my 'undercarriage' is a bit sore... ouchy.... :doh:
Pigmy Pony
26-05-2019, 18:44
And after a 20 mile bike ride today my 'undercarriage' is a bit sore... ouchy.... :doh:
If I were a lady cyclist (and there's more chance of me becoming a lady than a cyclist) I would consider wearing one of those Tena lady jobbies, even if my bladder control was tickety-boo. The woman on the advert seems to like them :) Quite discrete too, which may be a concern when you consider that some frustrated car driver is going to be staring at your backside for some time.
I used to shoot with some guy who was also a keen road rider, and he once told me that it was common practice to put banana skins down their shorts to cool/lubricate the area. Don't know whether this is true or if he just said it because I was eating a banana at the time. In any case it put me right off bananas, all I can think about is his sweaty arse crack :booty:
Ninanina
27-05-2019, 19:11
I would consider wearing one of those Tena lady jobbies,.. Quite discrete too, which may be a concern when you consider that some frustrated car driver is going to be staring at your backside for some time.
I think Tena's are nasty things .. my cycling shorts are padded anyway.. I've just ordered a short cycling skirt which is also padded...
put banana skins down their shorts to cool/lubricate the area
:lol: I definitely won't be putting a banana skin down my shorts though.. the idea is to wear no nicks underneath and use Chamois Creme but although I go naked I don't use the creme...:eyebrows:
Cycling along the towpath yesterday from Putney Bridge to Hammersmith where the boat race starts, a thought suddenly crossed my mind.
Don't know who s in the lead its either Oxford or Cambridge !. Yes, these words were uttered by the revered sports commentator John Snagg
many years ago. Well, as these were the only 2 teams in the race that assumption was always likely to be correct. Some strange thoughts crop up
in the mind when cycling I find. Just ask Bev ;)
Pigmy Pony
28-05-2019, 18:21
The strange thoughts start when first peering through the window of the cycle shop, and then it just gets worse.
I blame the lycra - designed to fit the Bradley Wiggins shape, any deviation from this (ie fat blokes) will cause constriction of the blood vessels, particularly to the brain area. Symptoms include poor spatial awareness, antisocial behaviour and impaired vision (explains why they can look in a mirror and think "hey I look pretty good in this").
Bev is an exception in that she doesn't need to be cycling - she has strange thoughts any time of the day, although they do seem to get weirder as the evening draws in :D No complaints here though, I'm a big fan :)
And Marco, before you start doctoring my post, I do mean big fan, NOT big fanny.
Pigmy Pony
28-05-2019, 18:47
Not sure what a fanboy is, but I doubt it's me, I've not been any kind of boy for several decades. I went straight from teenager to grumpy old git :)
I did have a pushbike in my teens, which meant I could get to my girlfriend's house in five minutes, instead of a 30 minute walk. Which was nice. Put ape hanger bars on it which were so high the blood would drain from my arms. The sacrifices we used to make in order to look shit hot.
Were those extra 25 mins with her worth it though ?
Pigmy Pony
28-05-2019, 19:11
Was for me - and it still left 20 minutes to enjoy a nice glass of Tizer :)
How Aper tizer though was she ?. Don't worry about Marco btw he s too busy somewhere else babbling on about ketchup and such like. He s dealing with the real stuff !
Was for me - and it still left 20 minutes to enjoy a nice glass of Tizer :)
A girlfriend once said that mine was as thick as a can of.... And before you start, no, not my head, well not *that* 'head' anyway:eyebrows:
Marco.
A girlfriend once said that mine was as thick as a can of.... And before you start, no, not my head, well not *that* 'head' anyway:eyebrows:
Marco.
In my experience, women appreciate 'girth' more than 'length'.
Pigmy Pony
28-05-2019, 19:36
How Aper tizer though was she ?. Don't worry about Marco btw he s too busy somewhere else babbling on about ketchup and such like. He s dealing with the real stuff !
You spoke too soon! Marco has eyes everywhere. Like a potato.
And yes she was very aper tizer. A red head (or ginger if you want to be bitchy), and pale skin, sort of like an upside down glass of Tizer. Very fit, but mental mental chicken oriental. Great fun when she wasn't bouncing my head off the wall.
In my experience, women appreciate 'girth' more than 'length'.
Haha - that's why I said "thick", daftee, not long!
Marco.
You spoke too soon! Marco has eyes everywhere. Like a potato.
And yes she was very aper tizer. A red head (or ginger if you want to be bitchy), and pale skin, sort of like an upside down glass of Tizer. Very fit, but mental mental chicken oriental. Great fun when she wasn't bouncing my head off the wall.
I could say *so* much about that, but I'll be a good boy this time and refrain:eyebrows:
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 16:09
Bev is an exception in that she doesn't need to be cycling - she has strange thoughts any time of the day, although they do seem to get weirder as the evening draws in :D No complaints here though, I'm a big fan :)
:o:rfl::rfl:
Only just seen this...;)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 16:11
How about girth and length? now that's a good combination :eyebrows:
Yes, but is there enough room in your 'airport' to house it?:eek::D
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 16:17
It'd be snug as a bug :eyebrows:
Haha - that's why I said "thick", daftee, not long!
Marco.
Uh? I was agreeing with you, "daftee"! ;)
a bad workman praises or blames his tool. an artist just gets the job done proper.;)
Lol - I see, no worries. That's wasn't entirely obvious.
Marco.
a bad workman praises or blames his tool. an artist just gets the job done proper.;)
:lolsign:
As they say, 'happiness is a RIDGID tool': https://www.ridgid.eu/gb/en
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 16:35
Just ordered a wax warmer & wax kit so I can practice myself.. I'll try it on the legs first and see how I get on before attempting anything more ouchy.. :eek:
Lol... Just be careful not to leave any stubble, as that could cause issues for any 'exploring admirers'...:eyebrows:
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:02
Oh there won't be any stubble left behind once I've finished with them/it...;) I'll report back once I've given it a go...
'exploring admirers' now that sounds kinda interesting...:eek:
Well it won't be bush explorers anyway!:D
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:05
:rfl:
Indeed not..:eek:
I could say *so* much about that, but I'll be a good boy this time and refrain:eyebrows:
Marco.If you've got a thin willy choose a girl who hasn't had kids. And don't make her pregnant.
If you've got a thick one, choose a girl whose had kids.
But be aware. A baby's body or two has been through there and you're never going to compare.
There is probably no substitute for a long, thick willy, though.
That said, contemplate what percentage of your life you spend actually having sex. Chances are it is close to fuck all. So in reality it isn't important. Apart from in your own mind. And if you can't get over that fact, you probably have a problem.
This post is rated XXX. And should NOT be taken too seriously.
Fuck I quoted the wrong post.
What if she has children but by caesarean?
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:12
I've not had any children either natural or by caesarean... I've had no complaints :eek:
stick to your hifi, its simpler and cheaper:ner:
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:16
Just ordered a wax warmer & wax kit so I can practice myself.. I'll try it on the legs first and see how I get on before attempting anything more ouchy.. :eek:
Will it still be snug as a bug in a rug, once you've rendered the rug threadbare?
It's a shame the "seventies" look has fallen out of favour - much cheaper than dental floss, and more fun too. The only downside was that communication was more difficult due to the sound deadening - "how do you like that then" just comes out as "mmmmff, mmm, mmmffff".
Time for a bit of lateral thinking: a clever solution to a problem which didn't really exist is to grow a beard. A bit like sticking bits of carpet to the soles of your slippers as a cheap alternative to carpeting your living room :)
Don't be looking at me like that, I didn't start it, I just piled on :D
So what happens when the man sports a beard, and the woman has a 'welcome mat'?
What if she has children but by caesarean?Stop complicating matters.
And you, Bev.
Grant is right.
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:22
If you've got a thin willy choose a girl who hasn't had kids. And don't make her pregnant.
If you've got a thick one, choose a girl whose had kids.
But be aware. A baby's body or two has been through there and you're never going to compare.
There is probably no substitute for a long, thick willy, though.
That said, contemplate what percentage of your life you spend actually having sex. Chances are it is close to fuck all. So in reality it isn't important. Apart from in your own mind. And if you can't get over that fact, you probably have a problem.
This post is rated XXX. And should NOT be taken too seriously.
Fuck I quoted the wrong post.
"A good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un". If you're a bloke that is.
stairpost
29-05-2019, 17:23
Please God, don't let any of this willy waving prompt a new thread in the abstract gallery! :)
"A good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un". If you're a bloke that is.
Are you sure you are not misquoting the late Gilbert Briggs concerning loudspeakers?
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:26
Will it still be snug as a bug in a rug, once you've rendered the rug threadbare?
It's a shame the "seventies" look has fallen out of favour - much cheaper than dental floss, and more fun too. The only downside was that communication was more difficult due to the sound deadening - "how do you like that then" just comes out as "mmmmff, mmm, mmmffff".
Time for a bit of lateral thinking: a clever solution to a problem which didn't really exist is to grow a beard. A bit like sticking bits of carpet to the soles of your slippers as a cheap alternative to carpeting your living room :)
Don't be looking at me like that, I didn't start it, I just piled on :D
:rfl: the rug won't be completely threadbare Steve... just a nice middle line I reckon would look good... kinda pointing the way in case my guy looses his way :D
Sorry I don't like the 70's look but I'll leave some fluff behind in the important areas...:eyebrows: I totally 'get' the bit about the 'sound deadening'
I'm not too keen on beards but they can be ok for a tickle I guess...
No worries, 'pile it on'....
Please God, don't let any of this willy waving prompt a new thread in the abstract gallery! :)
No, we're saving that for Bev's 'selfie', post-trim...:D
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:28
No, we're saving that for Bev's 'selfie', post-trim...:D
Marco.
Now that's a thought.... :eek:
I reckon I'd get a ban if I did that...:lol:
Now that's a thought.... :eek:
I reckon I'd get a ban if I did that...[emoji38]Pants.
You'd get a plus.
Go on Bev, stop teasing the boys and show us something real ...
Big smile here.:)
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:41
So what happens when the man sports a beard, and the woman has a 'welcome mat'?
Not a problem for Gene Simmons, the rest of us have to rely on charm.
Re. your other post - I'm not qualified to comment on Gilbert Briggs as I've never seen his willy :) A quick google shows Mr. Briggs (whom I'd never heard of) to be quite an interesting bloke. Can you recommend a good book Barry?
Sorry about the diversion, as you were you pervs :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:44
Pants.
You'd get a plus.
Go on Bev, stop teasing the boys and show us something real ...
Big smile here.:)
oops didn't mean to tease the 'boys'... just saying it as it is... it's how I am I guess :D
Pervs are ok by me Steve....
Not a problem for Gene Simmons, the rest of us have to rely on charm.
Re. your other post - I'm not qualified to comment on Gilbert Briggs as I've never seen his willy :) A quick google shows Mr. Briggs (whom I'd never heard of) to be quite an interesting bloke. Can you recommend a good book Barry?
Sorry about the diversion, as you were you pervs :)
Gilbert Briggs wrote a few books on loudspeaker design - try 'Briggs on Loudspeakers'.
BTW who is Gene Simmons?
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:48
BTW who is Gene Simmons?
KISS ..
Not my cup of tea though
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:49
Now that's a thought.... :eek:
I reckon I'd get a ban if I did that...:lol:
No ban, but we might print a banner... just think, they would be leaving PFM and the 'Wam in their droves :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 17:51
No ban, but we might print a banner... just think, they would be leaving PFM and the 'Wam in their droves :)
Don't tempt me Steve, just don't :lol:
I'm wondering too, if it's a happy coincidence (or not) that we were planning on introducing a 'scratch n sniff' facility on all Gallery pics?:hmm:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:54
KISS ..
Not my cup of tea though
He of the longue tongue. KISS' music not my thing either, but I bet Gene has had a modicum of success with the laydees.
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 17:57
I'm wondering too, if it's a happy coincidence (or not) that we were planning on introducing a 'scratch n sniff' facility on all Gallery pics?:hmm:
Marco.
Definitely no pics of your bathroom then :spew:
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:02
I'm wondering too, if it's a happy coincidence (or not) that we were planning on introducing a 'scratch n sniff' facility on all Gallery pics?:hmm:
Marco.
Oh no...don't do that Marco... mind you I always 'sniff' quite nice I reckon... :lol:
Definitely no pics of your bathroom then :spew:
Shit [no pun intended]... I was doing it for your benefit too, so we could compare the aromatic tang of our 'chocolate logs', vis-à-vis their length and texture:(
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:03
Long tongues aren't everything they are cracked up to be... it's what you do with a 'stumpy' that counts... :eek:
Oh no...don't do that Marco... mind you I always 'sniff' quite nice I reckon... :lol:
More 'fresh sea-trout' than sardines, then? Or is that scent drowned by cucumbers? :D:eyebrows:
Marco.
Long tongues aren't everything they are cracked up to be...
Depends on the girl (on girl)....:eek::eek:..... ;)
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:04
Shit [no pun intended]... I was doing it for your benefit too, so we could compare the pungency of our 'chocolate logs':(
Marco.
Oh I see what you mean.... choco logs ... I won't get involved with that one I don't think...
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:06
More 'fresh sea-trout' than sardines, then? Or is that scent drowned by cucumbers? :D:eyebrows:
Marco.
No just a nice perfumy kind of smell...I spray it everywhere...
Now cucumbers, that's another nice smell don't you think?
KISS ..
Not my cup of tea thoughAgreed. What appeals to Americans constantly amazes me.
Of all the American rock musicians, the only one I actually like is Ozzy. Just so full of love and down to the ground.
I can't fault that.
And that old TV series on MTV was a classic.
Gene is cool in person, though. I just don't dig his act.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:09
Of all the American rock musicians, the only one I actually like is Ozzy. Just so full of love and down to the ground.
Ozzy was born in Birmingham though...
Oh I see what you mean.... choco logs ... I won't get involved with that one I don't think...
Lol - that reply was aimed at Piggurs!:D
Marco.
No just a nice perfumy kind of smell...I spray it everywhere...
Now cucumbers, that's another nice smell don't you think?
Yes, especially when they've been 'grated'!:lol:
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:12
Yes, especially when they've been 'grated'!:lol:
Marco.
:rfl:
Absolutely... a nice fresh smell...
So what happens when the man sports a beard, and the woman has a 'welcome mat'?
I've just googled this Barry - according to Wikipedia, it is how Velcro was invented.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:14
I've just googled this Barry - according to Wikipedia, it is how Velcro was invented.
Interesting Alex...
Ozzy was born in Birmingham though...Yeah but he gave up on it.
Interesting Alex...
Possibly also how "tongue and groove" became a thing...? Oh no, that's joinery with wood.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:17
Yeah but he gave up on it.
He did indeed Justin... I happen to quite like him as well...
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:19
Possibly also how "tongue and groove" became a thing...? Oh no, that's joinery with wood.
Not necessarily joinery ... t&g sounds ok to me.. :eek:
Not necessarily joinery ... t&g sounds ok to me.. :eek:
Tongue & Groove is great for "the little man in the boat" - very good for moist environments. Or is that shiplap?
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:41
Tongue & Groove is great for "the little man in the boat" - very good for moist environments. Or is that shiplap?
Indeed Alex... I believe shiplap is wood that overlaps each other... moist or otherwise... ;)
Indeed Alex... I believe shiplap is wood that overlaps each other... moist or otherwise... ;)
Can't beat a bit of overlapping wood, makes my day when my wood is over-lapped! :D
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:50
Can't beat a bit of overlapping wood, makes my day when my wood is over-lapped! :D
A woody that overlaps... sounds interesting :lol:
Can't beat a bit of overlapping wood, makes my day when my wood is over-lapped! :D
Did you ever find a cure for that 'morning wood' you had?
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:55
A mw is a lovely thing indeed.... :lol:
Did you ever find a cure for that 'morning wood' you had?
Marco.
Asked the missus to sort it out once - God knows why she had that rubber mallet in the bedroom though! :eek:
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 18:57
Asked the missus to sort it out once - God knows why she had that rubber mallet in the bedroom though! :eek:
Ouchy... that's not the way to treat it is it ?
Well, it would reduce the swelling:eyebrows:
Marco.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 19:03
It would but I don't like the sound of it.... m woody's need to be treated gently I reckon..:D
Nothing worse than a pesky Woody Woodpecker :eek:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/Woody-wet-blanket-policy.jpg/220px-Woody-wet-blanket-policy.jpg
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 19:22
I happen to quite like a ww... :eek:
I've just googled this Barry - according to Wikipedia, it is how Velcro was invented.
Sorry Alex, that is not how Velcro was invented. If it was I would be a multimillionaire by now from the patents.
I've just googled this Barry - according to Wikipedia, it is how Velcro was invented.
Sorry Alex, that is not how Velcro was invented. If it was, I would be a multimillionaire by now from the patents.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 19:56
How was Velcro invented Barry? I've no idea..
A guy copied how the seeds of the arctium plant attached themselves to his clothing when out walking. Took him years to get it right
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 20:07
A guy copied how the seeds of the arctium plant attached themselves to his clothing when out walking. Took him years to get it right
That sounds good to me Grant.... now... how did we get onto Velcro? beats me... :D
Dunno. Should be called hook n loop.
Great bit of inspiration from nature and determination to succeed tho.
Great noise it makes too when ya peel it
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 20:29
Great noise it makes too when ya peel it
Rather like the wax I'm going to be giving a go Grant... :lol:
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 20:35
Can't wait for my 'kit' to arrive to give it a go...
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 20:51
As a complete aside... I happen to think that well manicured and painted fingers look nice against a stiffy... or is that just me ? :eyebrows:
Sorry Alex, that is not how Velcro was invented.
Sorry, banged to rights on this one! My attempt at humour!
stairpost
29-05-2019, 21:00
As a complete aside... I happen to think that well manicured and painted fingers look nice against a stiffy... or is that just me ? :eyebrows:
I agree, but it adds ten minutes to a wank and I can never get it all off my nails afterwards.
I agree, but it adds ten minutes to a wank and I can never get it all off my nails afterwards.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 21:23
I agree, but it adds ten minutes to a wank and I can never get it all off my nails afterwards.
Nice one Rich.... however it doesn't have to add any minutes to a w**k if done proper like.. :lol:
stairpost
29-05-2019, 21:30
Nice one Rich.... however it doesn't have to add any minutes to a w**k if done proper like.. :lol:
It does if you are single and work in logistics, truck drivers tend not to be the open minded type. Or worse, they might be too open minded and then I'd be in trouble :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 21:34
It does if you are single and work in logistics, truck drivers tend not to be the open minded type. Or worse, they might be too open minded and then I'd be in trouble :)
I'm also single but I've no idea about truck drivers...but I can't imagine them not being open minded.... I actually find the thought of a truck driver as being quite sexy for some reason...:eek: maybe that's just me...
However I've got a bit of a 'thing' for 'taking care' of a guy while he's driving.... :D
stairpost
29-05-2019, 21:41
I'm also single but I've no idea about truck drivers...but I can't imagine them not being open minded.... I actually find the thought of a truck driver as being quite sexy for some reason...:eek: maybe that's just me...
However I've got a bit of a 'thing' for 'taking care' of a guy while he's driving.... :D
They aren't the sort of open minded that would see a bloke walking round the office wearing nail varnish and not feel the need to mention it, and by mention it I obviously mean mercilessly take the p#&s
Let me know what sort of truck driver you want and I'll find one for you, we have quite a few to choose from :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 21:50
Let me know what sort of truck driver you want and I'll find one for you, we have quite a few to choose from :)
i quite like a guy to be a bit 'rough around the edges'... what I really don't like is 'pretty boys' if that makes sense...
I really get off getting a guy going while he's driving for some reason :eyebrows:
My guy has quite a small car which is 'challenging' to say the least... :D
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 21:59
Long tongues aren't everything they are cracked up to be... it's what you do with a 'stumpy' that counts... :eek:
Yes, a long tongue only benefits the lick provider really - means you can provide a service and watch telly at the same time, or if you're under 25 you can check your phone messages :)
stairpost
29-05-2019, 22:00
i quite like a guy to be a bit 'rough around the edges'... what I really don't like is 'pretty boys' if that makes sense...
I really get off getting a guy going while he's driving for some reason :eyebrows:
My guy has quite a small car which is 'challenging' to say the least... :D
Rough around the edges describes pretty much all of them, they even come with vehicles with beds in, sorted! :)
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 22:01
More 'fresh sea-trout' than sardines, then? Or is that scent drowned by cucumbers? :D:eyebrows:
Marco.
Do you ever think about anything but yer belly?
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:02
Yes, a long tongue only benefits the lick provider really - means you can provide a service and watch telly at the same time, or if you're under 25 you can check your phone messages :)
Oh you are with us Steve... ;)
Absolutely a long tongue is ok but not all it's cracked up to be, believe me... :eyebrows:
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:04
Rough around the edges describes pretty much all of them, they even come with vehicles with beds in, sorted! :)
I don't need a bed Rich... just a car and a nice guy who's turned on... I'm a basic kinda gal you know...:eyebrows:
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 22:12
Lol - that reply was aimed at Piggurs!:D
Marco.
Every Sunday I give my bowels the day off, so I'm confident my Monday log would beat anything out there, alive or long dead. I did try to send you a sample, and I did double bag it but the poor lady in the post office ended up going home early, and Parcelforce threatened a walk out.
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 22:19
Sorry Alex, that is not how Velcro was invented. If it was, I would be a multimillionaire by now from the patents.
But of course you would have risked being struck off - oh sorry I misread, you said patents.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:24
You are always good for a laugh Steve.... love it... ;)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:29
Come on now lets have some more sexy chat...... ;)
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 22:30
Oh you are with us Steve... ;)
Absolutely a long tongue is ok but not all it's cracked up to be, believe me... :eyebrows:
Without getting too technical, I prefer a well suppressed gag reflex :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:31
Without getting too technical, I prefer a well suppressed gag reflex :)
Ooo that sounds nice ... :D
I can do that no problem...love it..
Pigmy Pony
29-05-2019, 22:36
Right that's it, I'm off for a cold shower. Or a bath. Or something. And I may be some time, so I'll check on you scamps at 7am. Don't forget to turn off the lights and put the milk bottles out... :)
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 22:37
Right that's it, I'm off for a cold shower. Or a bath. Or something. And I may be some time, so I'll check on you scamps at 7am. Don't forget to turn off the lights and put the milk bottles out... :)
Why's that Steve? can't you take a good laugh? If we don't hear from you then we know what you're doing... :lol:
Nice though...
Ooo that sounds nice ... :D
I can do that no problem...love it..
Do you, or your partner, have a favourite colour of lipstick when engaging in that activity? Regard it as a corollary to the statement about the colour of ones fingernails when engaged in a similar but more manual activity.
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 23:08
Do you, or your partner, have a favourite colour of lipstick when engaging in that activity? Regard it as a corollary to the statement about the colour of ones fingernails when engaged in a similar but more manual activity.
I only wear a fairly pink'ish shade on my lips a nice soft colour that stays nice and shiny... does that help ?
My fingernails and toes are more a red'ish colour at the mo though,,,
Ninanina
29-05-2019, 23:20
I've just counted up my rings on my fingers and I count 8 at the moment and one of those is a thumb ring... I also happen to think that looks good against a nice 'one'... :D
It does if you are single and work in logistics, truck drivers tend not to be the open minded type. Or worse, they might be too open minded and then I'd be in trouble :)
Truck driver divorce - it's very sad.
Pigmy Pony
30-05-2019, 06:40
Truck driver divorce - it's very sad.
Who sung that, was it Dolly Parton?
Maybe she covered it, I don't know. Suspect not.
stairpost
30-05-2019, 17:01
Truck driver divorce - it's very sad.
I'm certainly not planning on marrying any of the drivers, a nice bunch but not my cup of tea.
I can only recall ever seeing 2 or 3 female drivers in my time. They always cause a scene very reminiscent of the monolith at the start of 2001.
Motty .. For those watching in black and white Spurs are in the yellow shirts. Well Geoff did say put anything down !
Yes - a change of topic is due.
stairpost
30-05-2019, 22:40
Anybody ever get the feeling that someone has been into your home while you were out?
The hallway cupboard door was slightly open when I got home, and the blinds in the main bathroom were also slightly open. I live alone and I'm a creature of habit, things tend to stay the same so this felt noticeable. Just paranoia, right?
Anybody ever get the feeling that someone has been into your home while you were out?
The hallway cupboard door was slightly open when I got home, and the blinds in the main bathroom were also slightly open. I live alone and I'm a creature of habit, things tend to stay the same so this felt noticeable. Just paranoia, right?
It's even spookier that a post from Barry is followed by a post by a poster from Barry.
stairpost
30-05-2019, 22:44
It's even spookier that a post from Barry is followed by a post by a poster from Barry.
And I moved to Barry from Bristol.
walpurgis
30-05-2019, 22:44
Anybody ever get the feeling that someone has been into your home while you were out?
The hallway cupboard door was slightly open when I got home, and the blinds in the main bathroom were also slightly open. I live alone and I'm a creature of habit, things tend to stay the same so this felt noticeable. Just paranoia, right?
Sorry about that. I'll try not to disturb anything next time I pop in for a look around. :D
stairpost
30-05-2019, 22:46
Sorry about that. I'll try not to disturb anything next time I pop in for a look around. :D
That made me laugh out loud :lol:
walpurgis
30-05-2019, 22:52
:lol:
Anybody ever get the feeling that someone has been into your home while you were out?
The hallway cupboard door was slightly open when I got home, and the blinds in the main bathroom were also slightly open. I live alone and I'm a creature of habit, things tend to stay the same so this felt noticeable. Just paranoia, right?
Yes - just paranoia. I had a similar experience many years ago: I came home from work noting to my alarm that there were magazines and books laying on the floor of my living room. It looked as if I had been burgled, but nothing was missing. The explanation was that I had come home the night before after having had a 'skin full' at my local hostelry, and had 'bounced off the walls' of the living room before putting myself to bed, and unknowingly knocking the objects to the floor. :doh:
That made me laugh out loud :lol:
Might not when you find out he s nicked the stereo
Yes - just paranoia. I had a similar experience many years ago: I came home from work noting to my alarm that there were magazines and books laying on the floor of my living room. It looked as if I had been burgled, but nothing was missing. The explanation was that I had come home the night before after having had a 'skin full' at my local hostelry, and had 'bounced off the walls' of the living room before putting myself to bed, and unknowingly knocking the objects to the floor. :doh:
Knowing you now, I couldn't imagine you being pissed - a most bizarre mental image indeed!:lol:
Marco.
Might not when you find out he s nicked the stereo
The speakers just disappear.
The speakers just disappear.
:)
its a bugger when that happens and then you trip over them ;)
stairpost
31-05-2019, 10:50
Might not when you find out he s nicked the stereo
I'd notice that missing, I hope. However, I do have a strange paranoia that if someone does have access to my place they are actually pinching records 1 or 2 at a time. I don't have a particularly big collection but I definitely would not notice if a couple had gone.
This is actually not the first time I have suspected that I have had a visitor, but it's the strongest I have ever felt it. I am just putting it down to silly paranoia, but that doesn't mean it isn't actually happening, although it really is highly unlikely.
security cameras time :eyebrows: simple but effective when your out. sends to you wherever you are
stairpost
31-05-2019, 10:56
Yes - just paranoia. I had a similar experience many years ago: I came home from work noting to my alarm that there were magazines and books laying on the floor of my living room. It looked as if I had been burgled, but nothing was missing. The explanation was that I had come home the night before after having had a 'skin full' at my local hostelry, and had 'bounced off the walls' of the living room before putting myself to bed, and unknowingly knocking the objects to the floor. :doh:
At least you solved your own mystery, and hopefully had a fine night out too :)
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