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Barry
15-08-2026, 16:41
Is it just me? - ever since the National Alert system was used yesterday, I have not been able to read any emails sent to my smartphone. When I click on the blue envelope email icon it takes me to a BT page which says "Login to BT Email", and when I click on that message it says "Sorry! Please try again later!". It happened shortly after the alert and still continues.

Macca
15-08-2026, 17:17
Is it just me? - ever since the National Alert system was used yesterday, I have not been able to read any emails sent to my smartphone. When I click on the blue envelope email icon it takes me to a BT page which says "Login to BT Email", and when I click on that message it says "Sorry! Please try again later!". It happened shortly after the alert and still continues.

Mine seems okay. I assume you've tried re-booting the 'phone?

Barry
15-08-2026, 19:36
Thanks Martin - that is exactly what needed to be be done. So 'coincidence rather than causation'.

Even so, I had to type in "How to reboot a Samsung smartphone" into Google to find out how to do it. I'm a real numpty when it comes to these things!

Between the National Alert message yesterday evening and just now, I had received some 20 extra emails and 11 spam emails; all of which I deleted.

Thanks again.

Macca
15-08-2026, 20:07
I'm terrible for checking my e-mails, it can go a week or more. I associate e-mail with work so now I'm retired I forget I still need to check my personal one.

Pigmy Pony
15-08-2026, 21:33
I know I have an e mail address. I should check it out sometime, in case anyone's told me anything important.

hifinutt
18-08-2026, 17:36
Mine seems okay. I assume you've tried re-booting the 'phone?

ah dear old Bt , rang them a few weeks ago to set up BT account , hilarious !! set it up with wrong name , sent equipment and router , 3 days later cancelled everything and demanded everything back

2nd attempt . set up all over again ... ah they couldnt transfer my old landline account so they just cancelled the order and account !!!

3rd attempt set it up all over again and hoping just maybe it might be successful this time ... who knows

Marco
18-08-2026, 18:35
I'm terrible for checking my e-mails, it can go a week or more.

I have a permanent tab (for AOL) set at the top of the page on my laptop, and check it hourly. If I don't do that, emails quickly build up and become too much of a bollox to look through.

Marco.

Macca
18-08-2026, 19:28
I have a permanent tab (for AOL) set at the top of the page on my laptop, and check it hourly. If I don't do that, emails quickly build up and become too much of a bollox to look through.

Marco.

I've limited the number of places that can send me e-mails so it isn't too bad. Maybe 50 a week. Most of them are from Linked-In.

The ones that annoy me most are the leccy asking for meter readings. They actually expect you to send one a month which is never going to happen. They don't want to pay a meter reader to come out as that will eat into their vast profits, so they expect me to work for them for free. Total piss-take.

Cotlake
18-08-2026, 21:22
I've limited the number of places that can send me e-mails so it isn't too bad. Maybe 50 a week. Most of them are from Linked-In.

The ones that annoy me most are the leccy asking for meter readings. They actually expect you to send one a month which is never going to happen. They don't want to pay a meter reader to come out as that will eat into their vast profits, so they expect me to work for them for free. Total piss-take.

Get a free smart meter upgrade and never have to read a meter again. I don’t understand why it seems to be so difficult or why there’s a suspicion that smart meters will carry your daughters away. Smart meters can be checked if you’re suspicious or simply trusted for an easier life.

Macca
19-08-2026, 07:09
Get a free smart meter upgrade and never have to read a meter again. I don’t understand why it seems to be so difficult or why there’s a suspicion that smart meters will carry your daughters away. Smart meters can be checked if you’re suspicious or simply trusted for an easier life.

Had them out for that years ago. They can't install one inside since there's 'Insufficient access'. They can put one outside but in that case I have to pay £1000 to install their meter. More chance of hell freezing over.

Years ago the meter reader would come maybe 4 times a year. If they could do that then they could do it now. Why should I be expected to do his job for free? Next thing they'll be wanting me to do their accounts for them for free. Maybe clean their offices. It's a slippery slope.

Of course if you don't do their readings for them eventually they send a meter reader out just to check you're not robbing them. They rob you, that's the business model. Can't upset that.

Marco
19-08-2026, 09:09
Years ago the meter reader would come maybe 4 times a year. If they could do that then they could do it now. Why should I be expected to do his job for free? Next thing they'll be wanting me to do their accounts for them for free. Maybe clean their offices. It's a slippery slope.


Quite right, mate, stand your ground... I'm exactly the same with self-service checkouts in supermarkets! Since I'm paying for the service, I *insist* that someone scans my shopping for me. If they want me to use self-service checkouts, and do their job for them, then they can discount the cost of my shopping!

Marco.

Macca
19-08-2026, 09:24
Quite right, mate, stand your ground... I'm exactly the same with self-service checkouts in supermarkets! Since I'm paying for the service, I *insist* that someone scans my shopping for me. If they want me to use self-service checkouts, and do their job for them, then they can discount the cost of my shopping!

Marco.

Have to confess I do use the self - checkout if I go in the Sainsbury. They always put the same two OAPs on the checkouts (never more than two open even at peak time Saturday). Of course all the other OAPs use the manual checkout so there's a lot of chit chat. And they stop scanning during the chit-chat, only resuming when the conversation dries up.

I don't mind waiting a minute or two but too often it just goes on too long. Lidl and Aldi, no problem. Their operators seem to have mastered scanning and chatting at the same time. Plus every single time I'm in there someone ahead of me in the queue will say 'You've only got a few things, go in front of me.' Never, ever had that happen in the Sainsbury.

Marco
19-08-2026, 09:37
Yeah, the bollox chit-chat: 'Oh that's a lovely tin of prunes you've bought', my dear, or some such nonsense...I'm there to get what I need, and get in and out ASAP!

No, you don't get that shoite in Lidl or Aldi - a quick 'hello' at the beginning and then down to the job in hand.

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
19-08-2026, 10:03
Have to confess I do use the self - checkout if I go in the Sainsbury. They always put the same two OAPs on the checkouts (never more than two open even at peak time Saturday). Of course all the other OAPs use the manual checkout so there's a lot of chit chat. And they stop scanning during the chit-chat, only resuming when the conversation dries up.

I don't mind waiting a minute or two but too often it just goes on too long. Lidl and Aldi, no problem. Their operators seem to have mastered scanning and chatting at the same time. Plus every single time I'm in there someone ahead of me in the queue will say 'You've only got a few things, go in front of me.' Never, ever had that happen in the Sainsbury.

I get that happening all the time, in Tesco, Morrisons, Co op, everywhere. Maybe we're just nicer people in Chorley, or maybe I just look like I'm about to fall over.

Marco
19-08-2026, 10:14
Are you still wearing that adult nappy in public?:eek: If so, that would explain it.

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
19-08-2026, 10:34
Are you still wearing that adult nappy in public?:eek: If so, that would explain it.

Marco.

What, you think I have it on show, like I'm some sort of geriatric Superman? No, it's more likely my repeated loud farting that moves things along.

Marco
19-08-2026, 10:44
Aye, that'll be it:D

Marco.

Macca
19-08-2026, 11:18
Maybe we're just nicer people in Chorley, or maybe I just look like I'm about to fall over.

A little from column 'A', a little from column 'B'?

I think what it is is that the normal people shop in Lidl and Aldi whilst Sainsbury is mostly the poxy students and the middle-class twats.

Marco
19-08-2026, 13:21
Although I dislike labels, some "middle-class twats" also use Lidl and Aldi...;)

Just check out some of the cars in the car park.

Marco.

Macca
19-08-2026, 13:46
Well there's bound to be a few. Not sure what counts as a middle class car these days though? In the past it used to be easy - Saab, BMW, Porsche, Audi, Volvo, Mercedes. But with PCP now anyone can have anything until they can't make the repayments.

Marco
19-08-2026, 14:06
Dreadful way of 'buying' a car, as all it does is encourage people to live beyond their means.

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
19-08-2026, 15:43
Dreadful way of 'buying' a car, as all it does is encourage people to live beyond their means.

Marco.

My thoughts too, though I have normally used finance to buy motors. But I'm not talking big amounts. Last payment on my van next month, the Volvo was paid off two years ago, and the bike's been mine 17 years now.

Might change the car next year, but only if we can do it without a loan.

Oh and I bought a second car a few weeks ago, but it was too good a bargain to pass on, and I paid cash for that too :)

Marco
19-08-2026, 16:51
Nice one, mate. Debt is your enemy, as it strangles your control on life.

Del got a new car recently (VW T-Roc, R-line), ex-demonstrator with 38 miles on the clock, and paid for it on her debit card. If you can't afford it, don't buy it!:exactly:

Marco.

walpurgis
23-08-2026, 17:42
Hello all.

It's been rather a long while, but thanks to some friendly encouragement from Marco and Barry I've decided to stick my face in here again.

I've been absent mainly due to a period of distracting personal circumstances which rather blunted my enthusiasm for everything.

I've missed the banter and chat and hopefully my life is now settled enough to get stuck in again and talk to everybody.

No doubt I'll bung something on my 'Deaf Row' blog soon.

Anyway, Hi again to everybody.

hifinutt
23-08-2026, 17:47
hi Geoff , good to see you. hope things soon improve

walpurgis
23-08-2026, 17:50
Thanks Phil. It'll be good chatting with folk again.

Barry
23-08-2026, 18:59
Hi Geoff,

Good to see you back again, you have been missed. Glad to hear things are now more settled for you.

Post as little or as much as you see fit - it will be good to chat again. :)

Marco
23-08-2026, 19:26
Hi Geoff,

Great seeing you here, mate. Totally understand why you've been absent, and glad things are better for you now:)

You're one of the people who make AoS 'tick', so get stuck in as only you can.

Marco.

walpurgis
23-08-2026, 19:38
Thanks guys, the encouragement is welcome.

I'll need to update the equipment line-up in my profile, much has changed. Maybe not all for the better! :eek:

Roy S
23-08-2026, 20:27
Good to see you back Geoff.

southall-1998_mk2
23-08-2026, 22:15
Welcome back buddy!

S.

walpurgis
24-08-2026, 09:57
Cheers guys.:)

Beobloke
24-08-2026, 10:38
It's our Silver Wedding Anniversary today - can't quite believe Mrs. B has put up with me for 25 years!!

https://i.ibb.co/3yB4GF9Y/Wedding.jpg (https://ibb.co/QFrpzH3j)

Barry
24-08-2026, 11:02
Congratulations Adam, here is wishing you all the best for the next 25 years. :)

Alex_UK
24-08-2026, 11:29
Good to see you back, Geoff.

Alex_UK
24-08-2026, 11:29
And congrats Adam!


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Macca
24-08-2026, 11:31
Welcome back Geoff, congratulations to Adam (and wife).

Pigmy Pony
24-08-2026, 14:32
Good to see you back again Geoff.

Marco
24-08-2026, 14:51
It's our Silver Wedding Anniversary today - can't quite believe Mrs. B has put up with me for 25 years!!

https://i.ibb.co/3yB4GF9Y/Wedding.jpg (https://ibb.co/QFrpzH3j)

Happy anniversary, Adam. Nice pic... Yes, she's suffered you and your turntables for a quarter of a century!:wowzer:;)

Hope you and Mrs B have many more anniversaries to come. It's Del and my 36th anniversary this year. You can't put a price on finding your soulmate.

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
24-08-2026, 17:24
Happy anniversary, Adam. Nice pic... Yes, she's suffered you and your turntables for a quarter of a century!:wowzer:;)

Hope you and Mrs B have many more anniversaries to come. It's Del and my 36th anniversary this year. You can't put a price on finding your soulmate.

Marco.

I saw them both at a Maverick show 2 or 3 years ago, Mrs. B didn't look like she was suffering... maybe Adam's worn her down over the years :)

walpurgis
24-08-2026, 17:30
Welcome back Geoff

Ta mate!

walpurgis
24-08-2026, 17:31
Good to see you back again Geoff.

Thanks Steve.

walpurgis
24-08-2026, 18:21
I've been watching the re-runs of 'Portrait Artist of The Year' on Sky Arts channel.

I quite enjoy it, but most of the painters seem to work from photos of the sitter taken with mobile phones.

As a reasonable painter in my younger years, to me, that's not proper art. It seems more like transcription of an image and more akin to draftsmanship. I'm not suggesting it shouldn't be done, but I just don't see it as real portraiture.

Anybody have views?

Barry
24-08-2026, 19:00
I would imagine portraiture to be the most difficult to do for an artist. To do it from life usually takes several sessions, so as not to tire the sitter. Whereas if a photo is taken of the sitter the painting can be done in less time, yet still allow the artist to put his style on the painting.

I never tried portraiture, but I did win a few drawing certificates at school.

Barry
25-08-2026, 18:05
No comment? Do you have a favourite portraitist? I think my favourite is Lucian Freud - simply for his no nonsense 'warts and all' style.

Macca
25-08-2026, 18:17
I like Vermeer.

walpurgis
25-08-2026, 18:21
Velasquez painted faces that seemed almost alive.

I might have another bash at painting sometime, but it'll probably be 'impressionist' in interpretation unless I wear my specs :).

walpurgis
25-08-2026, 18:22
I like Vermeer.

I do too.

Barry
25-08-2026, 18:25
I like Vermeer.

I certainly like his 'informal' portraits of women going about their domestic duties, rather than commissioned portraits of sitters.

Marco
25-08-2026, 18:27
I'm not really into portraits of people, so I'll stick with Louis Wain:)

Marco.

Barry
25-08-2026, 18:36
I'm not really into portraits of people, so I'll stick with Louis Wain:)

Marco.

Which of his works do you prefer Marco: Wain's realist cat portraits, or his anthropomorphic "Beatrix Potter" cat drawings and paintings?

Marco
25-08-2026, 18:59
I like both, but the latter is what I like most.

Marco.

Macca
25-08-2026, 19:02
I certainly like his 'informal' portraits of women going about their domestic duties, rather than commissioned portraits of sitters.

I don't know. This one is mint and was probably commissioned although no-one knows:

https://i.ibb.co/dszd9V47/1665-Girl-with-a-Pearl-Earring.jpg (https://ibb.co/gbB51fZ6)

Barry
25-08-2026, 19:42
Most authorities say the portrait was not a commission, rather it was a study by Vermeer. It certainly doesn't follow the usual rules of the time for formal commissioned portraits: the direct gaze and slightly parted lips being an example.

It is one of my favourite Vermeer portraits.