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Marco
04-09-2021, 11:19
Lol, it's not me who's the daftee... Read the post in question again:


In ours, we arrived at church (in Paisley) in a horse-drawn carriage, then we left to go to the reception (in Langbank) in a vintage Rolls Royce to the same hotel Carol Smillie chose for her wedding reception: https://www.gleddoch.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=local&utm_campaign=hotel-gleddoch


It's quite clear at that point I was talking about the hotel, super-daftee, not the church!:ner::D

Did you click on the link above, and therefore see what I was referring to?

Also, I've no idea where Paisley uni is/was, or what connection it had with folks getting hitched, as I didn't go there. This is the cathedral in Paisley where we were married: https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tLP1TcwKjIsrqgwYLRSNagwsbCwMLE0 Nkg2SjFLTTVLsjKoSDQzSjM1T0kxS0tMTU4zNPQSLi5RyM0sys wrVkhOLMlITSlKzAEA8ScWTQ&q=st+mirins+cathedral&rlz=1C1RFPM_enGB708GB709&oq=st+mirins&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512j46i175i199i512l2j0i512l5j 0i20i263i512.3839j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The service was particularly good because one of my mates from high school (St Mirins/St Margarets in Renfrew Road, only 5 mins away) became a priest, and he ended up marrying us!:)

Marco.

Macca
04-09-2021, 11:51
So are we agreed now it wasn't a church (in fact nothing like one) and that folks don't read posts properly?:ner::D

Answers on a postcard, please.....

Or is it an unwritten rule on forums that your NEVER admit to making a mistake?:doh:

;)

Marco.

Sorry I must have missed a whole page out there somehow. I agree it's not a church.

Marco
04-09-2021, 11:53
Lol, no worries, and I appreciate you're acknowledging the error. It's easy for mistakes like that to happen when you're just skimming through stuff - happens to me all the time:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
04-09-2021, 15:15
Lol, no worries, and I appreciate you're acknowledging the error. It's easy for mistakes like that to happen when you're just skimming through stuff - happens to me all the time:)

Marco.

Well it never happens to me! Btw, what was it like, having your reception in Carol Smillie's church? :)

Marco
04-09-2021, 17:01
:lolsign:

Marco.

guy
04-09-2021, 21:33
Well it never happens to me! Btw, what was it like, having your reception in Carol Smillie's church? :)

Bloody hell, I must have missed something - didn't realise that she had been ordained, I thought that I hadn't seen her on TV for a while :)

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 09:46
Bloody hell, I must have missed something - didn't realise that she had been ordained, I thought that I hadn't seen her on TV for a while :)

Ministering to the healthy and wealthy, with their first world problems, she finds quite challenging and time consuming. The rest of the time she's learning to play the organ

struth
05-09-2021, 09:59
she is a humanist celebrant ...

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 10:08
she is a humanist celebrant ...

I'm not sure what that is, I assume it's about caring for our fellow man, which most of us do to some degree.

struth
05-09-2021, 10:12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanist_celebrant

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 10:33
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanist_celebrant

Interesting - I went from there to "Humanist UK", which the blurb says represents "those that seek to live good lives without religion or superstition". So quite close to what I'd guessed, and the opposite to how I see some church-goers, thinking a weekly visit to church somehow makes up for being a shithead the rest of the week. :(

I won't say any more, knowing that religion is one of those 'no go' areas on forums... Just me and thee on here this morning Grant, where is every bugger? :)

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 10:38
Good morning Marco, good of you to join us, we've just been chatting about your mate Carol, say hi from me next time you visit her hotel :)

struth
05-09-2021, 10:40
Interesting - I went from there to "Humanist UK", which the blurb says represents "those that seek to live good lives without religion or superstition". So quite close to what I'd guessed, and the opposite to how I see some church-goers, thinking a weekly visit to church somehow makes up for being a shithead the rest of the week. :(

I won't say any more, knowing that religion is one of those 'no go' areas on forums... Just me and thee on here this morning Grant, where is every bugger? :)

church?:ner:

religion is a good thing as long as its a good and fair religion, still as you and i say, leave religion for everyone's private concience.
im a film buff i guess more than anything, but music isnt far behind, and intend to stay that way :D.

Marco
05-09-2021, 10:49
Where is everyone? Well, we were at church!:D


Interesting - I went from there to "Humanist UK", which the blurb says represents "those that seek to live good lives without religion or superstition". So quite close to what I'd guessed, and the opposite to how I see some church-goers, thinking a weekly visit to church somehow makes up for being a shithead the rest of the week. :(


Completely agree! The idea is to lead a Christian LIFE, based on the morals you were taught and brought up with, so that means 24/7, 365, not simply paying it lip service by attending church once a week (or in some cases worse), once a year at Christmas:doh:

So yes, some of the worst shitheads are those who hide behind the façade of 'being religious'. The worst, I've found, are the most vocal 'God botherers', preaching to all and sundry about how sinful they are, and trying to convert you to their beliefs, while behind the scenes they're up to all sorts - total hypocrites!

Anyone meeting us for the first time wouldn't know we were religious, or Catholics, as we don't discuss the subject with anyone, unless it's relevant.

Marco.

Marco
05-09-2021, 10:52
Good morning Marco, good of you to join us, we've just been chatting about your mate Carol, say hi from me next time you visit her hotel :)

Lol - will do. She does a good bondage party, btw. Wears a PVC catsuit well.

Marco.

Marco
05-09-2021, 10:54
church?:ner:

religion is a good thing as long as its a good and fair religion, still as you and i say, leave religion for everyone's private concience.
im a film buff i guess more than anything, but music isnt far behind, and intend to stay that way :D.

Sister Dolores says she'll see you in the confessional shortly, as she's heard you've been a *very* naughty boy!:whippin::whippin:

;)

Marco.

struth
05-09-2021, 11:00
Sister Dolores says she'll see you in the confessional shortly, as she's heard you've been a *very* naughty boy!:whippin::whippin:

;)

Marco.

well she nearly was sister, but is now niece, or is that nice:ner:

Marco
05-09-2021, 11:07
I know, if I hadn't led her astray, lol, who knows! I couldn't get my head around her in a Habit, though!:eek::eek::D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 11:10
church?:ner:

religion is a good thing as long as its a good and fair religion, still as you and i say, leave religion for everyone's private concience.
im a film buff i guess more than anything, but music isnt far behind, and intend to stay that way :D.

So you're more of a Son et Lumenist then :)

struth
05-09-2021, 11:17
So you're more of a Son et Lumenist then :)

is that a special time in a boy's life?:eyebrows:

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 11:30
Where is everyone? Well, we were at church!:D



Completely agree! The idea is to lead a Christian LIFE, based on the morals you were taught and brought up with, so that means 24/7, 365, not simply paying it lip service by attending church once a week (or in some cases worse), once a year at Christmas:doh:

So yes, some of the worst shitheads are those who hide behind the façade of 'being religious'. The worst, I've found, are the most vocal 'God botherers', preaching to all and sundry about how sinful they are, and trying to convert you to their beliefs, while behind the scenes they're up to all sorts - total hypocrites!

Anyone meeting us for the first time wouldn't know we were religious, or Catholics, as we don't discuss the subject with anyone, unless it's relevant.

Marco.

And that's how it should be imo. :)

As for the bit about how some religious folk think their faith gives them carte blanche to be arseholes, it's not restricted to Christianity of course - historically our leaders have used religion (and (mis)interpreted those writings) to further their own agenda. And not just leaders, it will go all the way down to the pious little bugger who beats his wife every Saturday.

I can easily get quite vocal about this, having an uncle who was the centre of a child abuse/wife pimping church group, and ruined the lives of his wife and three daughters (my cousins). He's currently serving 23 years for that lot, and will die in prison, the bastard :(

Anyway, best not to dwell on it, Anita is about to give the car a clean, and I will help by keeping out of the way :)

struth
05-09-2021, 11:33
I know, if I hadn't led her astray, lol, who knows! I couldn't get my head around her in a Habit, though!:eek::eek::D

Marco.

sure she would have looked outstanding in one... do they do mini habits? :D only joking ;)

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 11:35
Lol - will do. She does a good bondage party, btw. Wears a PVC catsuit well.

Marco.

And a mouth that could eat a banana sideways. Might be useful :)

Marco
05-09-2021, 11:43
sure she would have looked outstanding in one... do they do mini habits? :D only joking ;)

Lol... I might put that idea in her head for a 'new uniform'!:eyebrows:

She's really too naughty though to be a nun.

Marco.

Marco
05-09-2021, 11:47
And that's how it should be imo. :)

As for the bit about how some religious folk think their faith gives them carte blanche to be arseholes, it's not restricted to Christianity of course - historically our leaders have used religion (and (mis)interpreted those writings) to further their own agenda. And not just leaders, it will go all the way down to the pious little bugger who beats his wife every Saturday.

I can easily get quite vocal about this, having an uncle who was the centre of a child abuse/wife pimping church group, and ruined the lives of his wife and three daughters (my cousins). He's currently serving 23 years for that lot, and will die in prison, the bastard :(

Anyway, best not to dwell on it, Anita is about to give the car a clean, and I will help by keeping out of the way :)

Sounds like a total bastard, mate. No wonder the subject raises your heckles... Well done to Anita for cleaning your car - top girl:)

Granty, can you imagine what Del would say if I asked her to do that?:D

Marco.

struth
05-09-2021, 11:51
Sounds like a total bastard, mate. No wonder the subject raises your heckles... Well done to Anita for cleaning your car - top girl:)

Granty, can you imagine what Del would say if I asked her to do that?:D

Marco.

she'd say no... im cleaning granty's car as it has pink fluffy things:ner:

Pigmy Pony
05-09-2021, 12:05
she'd say no... im cleaning granty's car as it has pink fluffy things:ner:

Is that what she calls you, a pink fluffy thing?

Marco
05-09-2021, 12:07
she'd say no... im cleaning granty's car as it has pink fluffy things:ner:



Hahahaha... Aye, or just give me 'that look', which says that's YOUR job, not mine! She's much more adept at making a mess, than cleaning it up. Indeed, she excelled herself in that department last week after her sleepover - her and her pals, lol:wowzer::eek::doh:

Took me nearly 3 hours to sort it. Mucky wee pups... I should ban them, really;)

Marco.

struth
07-09-2021, 09:07
food delivery came.. got it away too.. yup was out back there and its humid

Marco
07-09-2021, 10:31
food delivery came.. got it away too.. yup was out back there and its humid

Nice one - 'out back' eh, in the back of the van?:bonk: No wonder it was humid:D

She sounds like a right hottie.. We'll send her round to Macca next!

Outstanding levels of customer care, though... Sainsbury's premier service, with 'added extras', was it?:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
07-09-2021, 10:35
typical of your filthy mind mate:D no, not an extra... a freebie:ner:

Marco
07-09-2021, 10:58
Hahaha... I blame it on someone who lives with me and likes pink fluffy things, and who's a bad influence!:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
07-09-2021, 11:27
Hahaha... I blame it on someone who lives with me and likes pink fluffy things, and who's a bad influence!:eyebrows:

Marco.

well we all like pink fluffy things;)

Marco
07-09-2021, 13:03
Hahaha... Well she's not long in from work, as she doesn't have any students in until next week, had popped her bikini on and was lying out in the lounger, with a cocktail I'd made for her, until a young chap (delivery driver from Amazon) knocking on the door rudely disturbed her sunbathing...

Don't know who got the bigger 'shock', him or her!!:eek::stalks:

I think it made his day, though;)

Marco.

guy
07-09-2021, 15:29
Second lovely sunny day after weeks of cloud and drizzle, so I have opened the widows on the shaded side of the house - absolutely lovely, until some arsehole in the village lit a bonfire at about two o'clock.

What an inconsiderate shit :steam:

I can't work out where it is coming from, which is possibly a good thing.

struth
09-09-2021, 12:23
flies made into pet food...hmm, that sounds delish:eek:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-58384761

Macca
09-09-2021, 12:26
My cat used to eat spiders so I'm not sure they're that bothered. He'd leave the legs though.

walpurgis
09-09-2021, 12:44
flies made into pet food...hmm, that sounds delish:eek:

Hmm. Gives a whole new meaning to "Grub up!".

guy
09-09-2021, 16:23
Hmm. Gives a whole new meaning to "Grub up!".

:lol:

walpurgis
10-09-2021, 19:09
Tomorrow, being the 20th anniversary of 9/11, might just be a day to stay in or at least avoid busy, crowded places and main public transport. I wouldn't put it past some fanatical nut wanting to mark the occasion and security services have no hope of covering all bases.

Roy S
10-09-2021, 19:59
Went to a weird funeral yesterday seems 'aunty Sheila' wasn't very well liked.

Consensus of opinion was that music for the service should have included 'ding dong the witch is dead' and party poppers were mentioned.

Good turn out though.

Alex_UK
10-09-2021, 20:03
:eek:

Although to be fair, I hate it when the gushing eulogy is actually nothing like the person you knew - we're all human, warts and all, and some you will like, some you won't - all part of life's minestrone, but better to be honest about it. RIP Aunty Sheila, nonetheless.

Roy S
10-09-2021, 20:04
:eek:

Although to be fair, I hate it when the gushing eulogy is actually nothing like the person you knew - we're all human, warts and all, and some you will like, some you won't - all part of life's minestrone, but better to be honest about it. RIP Aunty Sheila, nonetheless.

Apparently during the war her sister (my other half's Mum) made every effort to get her evacuated!

Alex_UK
10-09-2021, 20:05
:lol:

Pigmy Pony
11-09-2021, 13:39
Apparently during the war her sister (my other half's Mum) made every effort to get her evacuated!

A more pedantic person might infer that your mother-in-law was giving her laxatives and enemas :eek: but I know what you mean :)

My eulogy will be amazing - I'll be writing it myself :)

Barry
11-09-2021, 19:19
I don't get the need for a coffin when you're going to be cremated. And the prices are ridiculous for what is just a six sided wooden box that's going to be incinerated.

If they insist on one then much cheaper just to knock your own up out of wood you have lying about in the shed or garage, or finally find a use for those Audionote speakers.

A perfect use for Linn Isobarak speakers. :D

Marco
11-09-2021, 19:27
:lolsign:

Marco.

walpurgis
12-09-2021, 11:27
I placed an online home delivery order with Tesco yesterday and noticed a considerable number of items are unavailable at the moment. Looks like the stories about shortages are fueling panic buying.

Macca
12-09-2021, 11:31
I placed an online home delivery order with Tesco yesterday and noticed a considerable number of items are unavailable at the moment. Looks like the stories about shortages are fueling panic buying.

Supply-chain issues are global right now so they probably really can't get the stock in. Although some panic-buying is probably happening too.

Pigmy Pony
12-09-2021, 13:34
I placed an online home delivery order with Tesco yesterday and noticed a considerable number of items are unavailable at the moment. Looks like the stories about shortages are fueling panic buying.

But strangely no panic buying of fuel. Maybe the shortage of lorry drivers is leaving more fuel for the rest of us.

Roy S
13-09-2021, 17:00
I placed an online home delivery order with Tesco yesterday and noticed a considerable number of items are unavailable at the moment. Looks like the stories about shortages are fueling panic buying.

Only thing I've been struggling to get is sparkling water, wine and lager seem to be in plentiful supply :D

Marco
13-09-2021, 17:09
Interesting.... No shortages of fook all up so far up here. They were even giving away free bog roll in Lidl the other day if you spent so much on certain other items!:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 17:18
Interesting.... No shortages of fook all up so far up here. They were even giving away free bog roll in Lidl the other day if you spent so much on certain other items!:D

Marco.

I can provide you plenty of toilet roll free of charge (no purchase necessary). Only used one side :)

Marco
13-09-2021, 17:20
Cool, so basically, just 'lightly soiled' - no chunky bits?

Marco.

struth
13-09-2021, 17:21
Only thing I've been struggling to get is sparkling water, wine and lager seem to be in plentiful supply :D

a good few things here are often either out of stock regularly or not now available here. its not disasterous but its getting a bit worse. still water is a hard one. anything in season outwith the locale, especially out of uk like fruit etc.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 17:39
Cool, so basically, just 'lightly soiled' - no chunky bits?

Marco.

No, I feed them to the cat :)

Marco
13-09-2021, 17:58
Excellent. I applaud your keenness for recycling.

Marco.

struth
13-09-2021, 18:08
got food coming tomorrow again. should do me for a while. going to make a green bean and spicy tomato dish if the beans come:eyebrows:

Marco
13-09-2021, 18:19
Nice one. Is it out of the Bryn Williams book you got recently - or if not, have you used it yet?;)

Marco.

struth
13-09-2021, 18:29
I got the idea there but found a recipe online that's closer to what I wanted.
Be nice with meat on side and maybe roasties.

Marco
13-09-2021, 18:34
You don't need any meat, daftee - the whole idea is that the veg are the star of the show!:ner:;)

However, bulk it up with some tatties, by all means.

Marco.

struth
13-09-2021, 18:36
Yeah I know but I've some meat to use up. But there will be plenty left got a vegi feast too.

Marco
13-09-2021, 18:46
Is it from that beef joint? If so, why not do a curry with it? I don't think meat should ever be served 'on the side', as sort of token gesture. It should be the main event, much like the veggie dish you're doing:)

Marco.

Macca
13-09-2021, 20:14
Is it from that beef joint? If so, why not do a curry with it? I don't think meat should ever be served 'on the side', as sort of token gesture. It should be the main event, much like the veggie dish you're doing:)

Marco.

Or it can be the side to another meat dish, like turkey with bacon. In America you can order a side of bacon with pretty much anything.

Marco
13-09-2021, 20:17
Lol, some bacon with a side of.... Bacon? What about a bacon pudding, washed down with bacon juice:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 20:24
Excellent. I applaud your keenness for recycling.

Marco.

Not so excellent when she recycles it all over the carpet :( That's the thing with cats, they know all about revenge.

Pigmy Pony
13-09-2021, 20:28
You don't need any meat, daftee - the whole idea is that the veg are the star of the show!:ner:;)

However, bulk it up with some tatties, by all means.

Marco.

I doubt there's any vegetarian dish that can't be improved with a bit of meat.

Marco
13-09-2021, 20:31
Is that what you say to your veggie girlfriend when you 'sully' her with your pork sword?:eyebrows:

Marco.

Beobloke
14-09-2021, 11:47
Lol, some bacon with a side of.... Bacon? What about a bacon pudding, washed down with bacon juice:D

Marco.

That sounds awesome. Have you got a recipe?

:D

Marco
14-09-2021, 12:15
Try this: www.iamaporker@oink.com

:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 14:38
When everything in your life is right on track, it's easy to believe that things happen for a reason; it's easy to have faith. But when things start to go wrong then it's very hard to hold on to that faith. It's hard not to wonder whose reasons these things happen for. People like to examine the things that frighten them, to look at them and give them names, so saints look for God, and scientists look for evidence. They're both just trying to take away the mystery, to take away the fear. We all like to think that we have some control over the events in our lives, and a lot of the time we can fool ourselves into thinking that we really are in charge. But then something happens to remind us that the world runs by its own rules and not ours and that we're just along for the ride.

Marco
14-09-2021, 15:35
Think you've posted that on the wrong thread, daftee!;)

Otherwise, it's a bit random...

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 15:35
Think you've posted that on the wrong thread, daftee!;)

Marco.

why; it was just something for folk to read

Marco
14-09-2021, 15:40
Lol - I thought it belonged more on the Covid thread, in reference to what I wrote about not hiding from things and fronting up your fears;)

Over there, what you've just written makes more sense:)

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 15:42
Lol - I thought it belonged more on the Covid thread, in reference to what I wrote about not hiding from things and fronting up your fears;)

Over there, what you've just written makes more sense:)

Marco.

it could be copied there too i suppose. profound thoughts is for all tho and many wont read that thread:)

Marco
14-09-2021, 15:48
Lol... Don't see why not - it's certainly had plenty of views!:D

You should always read stuff that's uncomfortable because it challenges your preconceptions, if by doing so, you might learn something new.

How's that for profound?;)

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 15:52
Lol... Don't see why not - it's certainly had plenty of views!:D

You should always read stuff that's uncomfortable because it challenges your preconceptions, if by doing so, you might learn something new.

How's that for profound?;)

Marco.

na, needs work..:ner:

hows princess?

Marco
14-09-2021, 16:16
Lol... She's just walked in the door, so you know the usual routine...:D

She says she's tired, after a difficult day with some problem students, so afterwards I'll run her a bath, so she can chillax. Usual routine there too, of course... Just the RIGHT amount of bubbles, with the water at just the RIGHT temperature, and a glass of chilled Prosecco delivered, before I close the bathroom door and leave her to it (face time with pals on her phone) lol!

She's just about worth it, though;)

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 16:19
ah poor soul.. problem teens; all one needs, the little buggers. my granson is 14 next week. he will soon become obnoctious im betting;)

Marco
14-09-2021, 16:27
Lol, indeed. She's generally good with them though, as they think she's 'cool'. She's had umpteen emails from her students who missed her badly when she was off work with Covid. Autistic kids can sometimes be more challenging, though.

However, this is her first week back with students, and it was like some sort of celebrity had walked in the door, with her 'fan club' all going YAY, Del's back!:yay::carrot:

They didn't like her replacement much, as she was no fun, lol. Del plays games with them and all sorts, and just acts like a big kid herself, but at the same time successfully teaches them the required curriculum. That's why she gets results (and is also so highly though of)!

Marco.

struth
14-09-2021, 16:33
dance gal...

https://c.tenor.com/if5XndQB2GgAAAAM/yay-yas.gif

Marco
14-09-2021, 16:52
Lol... You know she likes a boogie in her bare feet!:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
14-09-2021, 23:06
Lol... Don't see why not - it's certainly had plenty of views!:D

You should always read stuff that's uncomfortable because it challenges your preconceptions, if by doing so, you might learn something new.

How's that for profound?;)

Marco.

Forget the past, it's gone. And don't worry about the future, it doesn't exist. There is only NOW.

How's that for profound? :)

Marco
15-09-2021, 07:22
Yes, profoundly depressing!:D

Whatever future I have, I intend on enjoying and living it to the full!:exactly:

Marco.

walpurgis
15-09-2021, 13:17
I see Gavin Williamson has been booted from his job as Education Secretary. I wonder where he'll go now to say nothing useful?

struth
15-09-2021, 14:00
I see Gavin Williamson has been booted from his job as Education Secretary. I wonder where he'll go now to say nothing useful?

scottish office?:D

walpurgis
15-09-2021, 14:24
scottish office?:D

:D

Pigmy Pony
15-09-2021, 21:12
Yes, profoundly depressing!:D

Whatever future I have, I intend on enjoying and living it to the full!:exactly:

Marco.

No, I see nothing depressing in that. What probably is depressing is that most of us cannot 'live the dream' now, but have to plan (hope) for it sometime in the future. The Jimi Hendrix song "Castles made of Sand" comes to mind. Now I'm depressed!:D

Marco
16-09-2021, 07:15
Lolz... You can 'live the dream' as soon as you retire, but you said you don't want that, and love working, so I guess you're 'living the dream' now - enjoy!:D

Marco.

guy
16-09-2021, 14:42
Had my right ear cleaned out the day before yesterday, bloody big lump of very dark wax came out.

I hadn't realised quite how much my hearing had deteriorated. But also, I just feel happier/more active - could just be a psychological effect, but bugger it I feel good :dance:

Marco
16-09-2021, 15:11
Good stuff. Try a colonic next, and you'll be ready to run a marathon!:D

Marco.

guy
16-09-2021, 16:13
Good stuff. Try a colonic next, and you'll be ready to run a marathon!:D

Marco.

Wouldn't mind :booty:

I did have loads of laxative prior to an endoscopy, many years ago, and that did make me perk up a bit :)

struth
16-09-2021, 16:29
a load of gluten does it for me :ner:

walpurgis
16-09-2021, 17:33
Despite the writing having been on the wall for non-renewable fuels for generations, the suppliers apparently have been unable to redirect their investments and now want compensating. Unbelievable!

https://news.sky.com/story/fossil-fuel-companies-are-suing-governments-across-the-world-for-more-than-18bn-12409573

Pigmy Pony
16-09-2021, 18:52
Lolz... You can 'live the dream' as soon as you retire, but you said you don't want that, and love working, so I guess you're 'living the dream' now - enjoy!:D

Marco.

I do love my job, but I never called it 'living the dream'. That's just silly talk :D Anyway, who gets to live the dream as soon as they retire? A few maybe, but nobody I know. For most of us life is rather more complicated than that.

Pigmy Pony
16-09-2021, 18:59
Good stuff. Try a colonic next, and you'll be ready to run a marathon!:D

Marco.

That's pretty much what I had many years ago, the evening before an endoscopy. A nurse came to the house and stuck a soapy pipe up me bum. That did the trick :) I certainly felt on top of the world after that, though in reality I was just on top of a big pile of shit...

Marco
16-09-2021, 19:41
I do love my job, but I never called it 'living the dream'. That's just silly talk :D Anyway, who gets to live the dream as soon as they retire? A few maybe, but nobody I know. For most of us life is rather more complicated than that.

Yeah well, what exactly is 'living the dream'? It'll be subjective and different for everyone. I may not be 'living the dream', but I have a nice lifestyle, want for nothing and am happy, healthy and contented, as is Del, so I guess that'll do for now!:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
16-09-2021, 21:51
Yeah well, what exactly is 'living the dream'? It'll be subjective and different for everyone. I may not be 'living the dream', but I have a nice lifestyle, want for nothing and am happy, healthy and contented, as is Del, so I guess that'll do for now!:D

Marco.

Well there you go :) 'Living the dream" is a phrase that I never use. We just do what we can with what we have, and be happy with that. Some will gripe and moan about their lot, but like you I tend to avoid them.

Marco
17-09-2021, 07:44
Can't stand folk with a permanent scowl on their chops, and who are always in a bad mood!

Marco.

struth
17-09-2021, 08:12
wat you talkin' 'bout?? :eyebrows: i try to smile as much as possible. its easier:)

Marco
17-09-2021, 09:51
Yesh, especially when catching a glimpse of yourself in the mirror - all you can do is laugh!:lol:;)

Worry not, princess loves her chunky unky:)

Marco.

struth
17-09-2021, 10:07
Yesh, especially when catching a glimpse of yourself in the mirror - all you can do is laugh!:lol:;)

Worry not, princess loves her chunky unky:)

Marco.

i tried crying but it didnt help:D

Ninanina
18-09-2021, 23:17
Did someone ask for pics... well how about some legs????

http://i.imgur.com/qz0WKRl.jpg (https://imgur.com/qz0WKRl)

Just catching up with posts...totally forgot I sent pic of my legs... looks like I'm 'half cast' ... I'm not, just always tanned here in sunny Portsmouth....

Ninanina
18-09-2021, 23:47
Well there you go :) 'Living the dream" is a phrase that I never use. We just do what we can with what we have, and be happy with that. Some will gripe and moan about their lot, but like you I tend to avoid them.

I live for today....

I NEVER moan about my 'lot' but I'm pretty sure a lot of peeps going through what I am would though

I guess I've got a 'sunny disposition' ... unless I'm depressed :lol::lol:


Come on Steve make me chuckle.... I've missed the humour

Pigmy Pony
19-09-2021, 05:55
I live for today....

I NEVER moan about my 'lot' but I'm pretty sure a lot of peeps going through what I am would though

I guess I've got a 'sunny disposition' ... unless I'm depressed :lol::lol:


Come on Steve make me chuckle.... I've missed the humour

And we've missed you! Can't tell you how much, nor how much it's cost me in lost drones, searching the gardens of Portsmouth this summer :eyebrows: There have been threads about your absence, and I know that seeing your return will brighten up Sunday for A LOT of folk on here, not least me :kiss:

Welcome back, and keep those leg pics coming - I normally only see pins of that quality walking away from me :(

Marco
22-09-2021, 15:52
This is interesting, and explains why the braindead masses are panic-buying: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-58626935

:doh::rolleyes:

Marco.

Barry
22-09-2021, 16:05
No sign of 'panic buying' here in London, though I did notice several items sold out in my local Co-op (mostly 'ready meals', of which I have little need).

Fortunately we buy all our fruit and veg fresh from a greengrocer, and there are no shortages of any of that to be seen. Meat is always bought fresh from a butcher.

I suspect it is only in supermarkets where people go for the convenience of a "one stop shop", where you will see shortages; and of course with the fulfilment of orders by delivery companies.

Marco
22-09-2021, 16:19
I agree on all counts, and our food buying habits are largely the same, so really won't be affected by any shortages. However, until the shortage in CO2 is resolved, look out for pubs running out of beer!:eek:

Marco.

Barry
22-09-2021, 16:33
Then I shall drink bottled beer.

As an aside, we popped into a pub this lunchtime for a beer and was saddened to learn that a lot of the pubs in London are no longer serving draught beer. It seems that these pubs are 'managed' and the staff either too lazy or ignorant to keep and look after the beers; so it's either lagers on tap or bottled beer. They blame it all on Covid, but I noticed the trend occurring before the pandemic started.

BTW I had a glass of Staropramen lager; which being a beautiful summer's day here today, slipped down very nicely. :)

walpurgis
22-09-2021, 16:41
Much to my disappointment, I have to avoid alcohol these days for medical reasons. A bit disheartening really as I really enjoy a beer!

Firebottle
22-09-2021, 16:42
I live for today....

I NEVER moan about my 'lot' but I'm pretty sure a lot of peeps going through what I am would though

I guess I've got a 'sunny disposition' ... unless I'm depressed :lol::lol:


Come on Steve make me chuckle.... I've missed the humour

Hi Bev, welcome back, you have been missed.

How about this for a chuckle. Went to a flyin, paramotor flying, had a great time.
However on Sunday I came in too low, had to take evasive action to not collide with a fence, ended up with an 'arrival' in the adjacent field.
Oh what japes..

Pigmy Pony
22-09-2021, 18:05
Hi Bev, welcome back, you have been missed.

How about this for a chuckle. Went to a flyin, paramotor flying, had a great time.
However on Sunday I came in too low, had to take evasive action to not collide with a fence, ended up with an 'arrival' in the adjacent field.
Oh what japes..

What might make Bev smile is if you posted that video of yourself with your paramotor, with your legs going like the clappers, like a Benny Hill sketch :)

Marco
22-09-2021, 19:02
As an aside, we popped into a pub this lunchtime for a beer and was saddened to learn that a lot of the pubs in London are no longer serving draught beer. It seems that these pubs are 'managed' and the staff either too lazy or ignorant to keep and look after the beers; so it's either lagers on tap or bottled beer. They blame it all on Covid, but I noticed the trend occurring before the pandemic started.


Haven't noticed any sign of that here, but the scene in London is very different! The locals in all the privately-owned country pubs around here would be up in arms if they couldn't enjoy their real ales!!:eek:


BTW I had a glass of Staropramen lager; which being a beautiful summer's day here today, slipped down very nicely. :)

Nice... There are so many quality Pils-style continental lagers around, it's hard to choose. Staropramen is one of the better ones, as is Budvar (not Budweiser), which is quite different.

I tend to avoid the 'usual suspects', such as Budweiser, Stella, Becks, Peroni, Grolsch, Moretti, Kronenbourg etc, as they're pale imitations of their real selves, when sold in their country of origin (a bit like sampling Guinness outside of Dublin), and go more leftfield.

If you ever see 'Menabrea', on draught, it knocks Peroni or Moretti into a cocked hat: https://www.menabrea.co.uk/

Awesome stuff!:cool:

Marco.

guy
23-09-2021, 07:49
Local butcher, home-brew, baking and growing your own is the way to go - it just makes sense in terms of quality, cost, "air -miles" and knowing what is in whatever you are consuming - we've had the industrial revolution with food stuffs, perhaps it is time to get closer to "the old ways" (without scurvy, e-coli etc :lol:)

Marco
23-09-2021, 08:04
Indeed, mate. It's exactly what we've been doing for the last goodness knows how long, and intensified this year with growing much more of our own produce. By the end of next year, local butcher aside, we want to be almost totally self-sufficient.

It also feels much more like living, as opposed to existing. It makes you value things more and appreciate nature.

Shopping physically in supermarkets is soulless enough, never mind sitting at home, clicking on a mouse, and surviving off of food deliveries and Amazon! Fair enough, if you have NO other choice because of a disability, but otherwise it's a rather dull existence.

Marco.

struth
23-09-2021, 08:13
Indeed, mate. It's exactly what we've been doing for the last goodness knows how long, and intensified this year with growing much more of our own produce. By the end of next year, local butcher aside, we want to be almost totally self-sufficient.

It also feels much more like living, as opposed to existing. It makes you value things more and appreciate nature.

Shopping physically in supermarkets is soulless enough, never mind sitting at home, clicking on a mouse, and surviving off of food deliveries and Amazon! Fair enough, if you have NO other choice because of a disability, but otherwise it's a rather dull existence.

Marco.

its a dull existance when your disabled too... every day same bar different levels and areas of pain... bollocks to it.

Marco
23-09-2021, 08:52
What can I say, mate? I don't doubt it, but you cope remarkably well and still manage to stay cheery (most of the time, lol). That's to your credit.

My comments were of course aimed at all the lazy, able-bodied fuckers, who don't know how lucky they are having full control of their limbs, but instead chose to let them waste away by sitting on their fat arses on a phone or computer, instead of MOVING!!:doh:

Marco.

Macca
23-09-2021, 09:19
meh - moving about is over-rated. I did all that when I was younger, better to get it out of the way then.

struth
23-09-2021, 09:38
meh - moving about is over-rated. I did all that when I was younger, better to get it out of the way then.

you often dont realise how good it is until its taken from you

Marco
23-09-2021, 09:39
Indeed... Josh ye not about losing any important aspect of your health or mobility.

Marco.

Marco
23-09-2021, 09:49
meh - moving about is over-rated. I did all that when I was younger, better to get it out of the way then.

Lol - we certainly did plenty of moving about the other day, back and forth fetching masks!:D

That was a mad wee record shop, but a goodie... Still to put my purchases through the RCM and play them. Will do later today.

Hey Granty, I think you'd like some of the classic blues albums I picked up on original (mint) vinyl, from the likes of Jimmy Yancey, Blind Boy Fuller (with Sonny Terry and Bull City Red), Chuck Berry, Sonny Boy Williamson, Junior Wells, Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown and Muddy Waters.

You'll probably have heard of most of those?:)

Marco.

struth
23-09-2021, 09:59
jimmy yancey was good pianist.... clarence gatemouth brown was amazing too. Mainly a guitarist but multiinstrumentalist too. The others you'll know plenty about.

Marco
23-09-2021, 10:02
Yeah, the only other one I wasn't really familiar with was Blind Boy Fuller. Do you rate him?:)

Marco.

struth
23-09-2021, 10:15
Yeah, the only other one I wasn't really familiar with was Blind Boy Fuller. Do you rate him?:)

Marco.

yeah he was good, and old school.. Ive one of his; get yir yaya's out. His stuff is very old and oft crackly as he died around ww2. But he was one of the most popular artists around in his day.

walpurgis
23-09-2021, 15:56
Fuel shortages starting: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bp-petrol-stations-closed-uk-b1925612.html

I saw that coming and keep a filled tank. It will last me ages, as I don't do many miles.

struth
23-09-2021, 15:59
filled up yesterday, or day before

walpurgis
23-09-2021, 16:23
I'll bet the mugs will panic and they'll be queueing by tonight!

Barry
23-09-2021, 16:49
There are so many quality Pils-style continental lagers around, it's hard to choose. Staropramen is one of the better ones, as is Budvar (not Budweiser), which is quite different.

Agreed, proper Czech Budvar is lovely


I tend to avoid the 'usual suspects', such as Budweiser, Stella, Becks, Peroni, Grolsch, Moretti, Kronenbourg etc, as they're pale imitations of their real selves, when sold in their country of origin (a bit like sampling Guinness outside of Dublin), and go more leftfield.

The Peroni I buy is brewed and bottled in Italy. Moretti, which I haven't tried, is brewed by Heineken in the UK.

It can work the other way however - I used to drink Dutch Oranjeboom lager a lot in the '80s, but when I asked to try the same when I visited Holland I was told it would be disappointed as Oranjeboom export all their best lager to the UK. :doh:

Barry
23-09-2021, 16:56
I think you'd like some of the classic blues albums I picked up on original (mint) vinyl, from the likes of Jimmy Yancey, Blind Boy Fuller (with Sonny Terry and Bull City Red), Chuck Berry, Sonny Boy Williamson, Junior Wells, Clarence 'Gatemouth' Brown and Muddy Waters.

You'll probably have heard of most of those?:)

Marco.

I have recordings by all of those blues artists. All good stuff there Marco! :)

Marco
23-09-2021, 17:12
Cheers, Barry. My knowledge of blues music is fairly limited, as it's a genre I've only gotten into in the last 15 years or so, and so was trying to be selective and buy stuff from some of the 'legends'!:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
23-09-2021, 17:20
My comments were of course aimed at all the lazy, able-bodied fuckers, who don't know how lucky they are having full control of their limbs, but instead chose to let them waste away by sitting on their fat arses on a phone or computer, instead of MOVING!!:doh:

Marco.

That's right, have a go at the Piggurs... :D

Pigmy Pony
23-09-2021, 17:27
I'll bet the mugs will panic and they'll be queueing by tonight!

That'll explain my local Sainsburys forecourt being so busy today. Oh well, got a full tank now, that'll do me for two weeks :)

Batty
23-09-2021, 21:15
Almost died again this year.
Last year my left carotid artery bas 86% block and if it had not been for a minor TIA I would not have known, surgeon sorted that.
At the beginning of July I went blind in my right eye for about 5 minutes and the cause was my right carotid artery was 99% blocked. Back to the surgeon, all sorted.
Still here.

Alex_UK
23-09-2021, 22:26
Almost died again this year.
Last year my left carotid artery bas 86% block and if it had not been for a minor TIA I would not have known, surgeon sorted that.
At the beginning of July I went blind in my right eye for about 5 minutes and the cause was my right carotid artery was 99% blocked. Back to the surgeon, all sorted.
Still here.

Wow, that’s pretty intense, but glad you’re still here!

Pigmy Pony
23-09-2021, 22:45
Almost died again this year.
Last year my left carotid artery bas 86% block and if it had not been for a minor TIA I would not have known, surgeon sorted that.
At the beginning of July I went blind in my right eye for about 5 minutes and the cause was my right carotid artery was 99% blocked. Back to the surgeon, all sorted.
Still here.

Good to hear, Steve. Though it would have been prudent for them to check the right carotid too. With one working at 14% chances are the other one wouldn't be mint. But these aren't normal times :(

walpurgis
24-09-2021, 06:46
Almost died again this year.
Last year my left carotid artery bas 86% block and if it had not been for a minor TIA I would not have known, surgeon sorted that.
At the beginning of July I went blind in my right eye for about 5 minutes and the cause was my right carotid artery was 99% blocked. Back to the surgeon, all sorted.
Still here.

I had similar. I dragged myself to the GP in a semi-coherent state in 2020 after losing the ability to think, my left carotid had the same as yours. Got carted off in an ambulance and rushed to surgery, I woke up paralysed on the right and with a freshly sewn up six inch incision on my neck. Now largely recovered and due for another blood flow check.

Marco
24-09-2021, 07:16
Wow, that’s pretty intense, but glad you’re still here!

+1. Take it easy, Steve and look after yourself. I hope you feel much better now:)

Marco.

walpurgis
24-09-2021, 07:24
Did they put you on a pile of meds Steve?

Marco
24-09-2021, 15:04
That'll explain my local Sainsburys forecourt being so busy today. Oh well, got a full tank now, that'll do me for two weeks :)

No such issues with the denizens at Texaco: http://a.cly.cx/a/xJXtZLdtvuy

Fuel shortages? Pah! We'll let all the other muppets worry about that:D;)

Marco.

walpurgis
24-09-2021, 17:19
Bum rap for smart bogs?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/sep/23/the-smart-toilet-era-is-here-are-you-ready-to-share-your-analprint-with-big-tech

Pigmy Pony
24-09-2021, 19:15
No such issues with the denizens at Texaco: http://a.cly.cx/a/xJXtZLdtvuy

Fuel shortages? Pah! We'll let all the other muppets worry about that:D;)

Marco.

Yeah, because you can just saddle up a sheep and ride that into town. Be a doddle compared to what you normally put them through :eyebrows:

Very thoughtful of Texaco to write to you personally. I can only assume business must be really quiet at your filling station when your monthly ten quid top-up gets you on first name terms with the Star Rewards team :ner:

Marco
24-09-2021, 19:28
Heh-heh - just the advantages, old boy, of making different lifestyle choices from the masses!:ner::D

;)

Marco [shag a sheep, by all means, but don't ever BE one].

Macca
24-09-2021, 20:35
Just seen my first Christmas ad - got to be a record that. It's not even October yet. There needs to be laws.

Alex_UK
24-09-2021, 20:37
That is just f’in ridiculous! What company was it?

Barry
24-09-2021, 20:50
Just seen my first Christmas ad - got to be a record that. It's not even October yet. There needs to be laws.

I wouldn't worry about it - the rate things are going there will be nothing to buy for Christmas anyway! :lol:

Macca
24-09-2021, 20:57
That is just f’in ridiculous! What company was it?

I don't know but it was about buying early for Christmas. And the music was 'It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas.'

Alex_UK
24-09-2021, 21:44
All I want for Christmas is a gallon of diesel!

Marco
24-09-2021, 22:27
Human flesh tastes remarkably porky.

Marco.

walpurgis
25-09-2021, 07:11
All I want for Christmas is a gallon of diesel!

The way things are going, you'll be lucky to get a gift wrapped toilet roll, never mind fuel :).

Marco
25-09-2021, 07:41
Lol... The 'way things are going' here, is the way they've always been going!:D

Marco.

walpurgis
25-09-2021, 08:39
"no need to panic buy fuel" according to the government. You'll still have to queue for ages at the remaining petrol stations that are still open and now rationing their last dregs of fuel, but just don't panic!

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/fuel-crisis-live-petrol-stations-5968718

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlKb97UcA4&ab_channel=Channel4News

Are the petrol stations that are closing switching off their electric charging points? Bet they are, that'll be a double whammy!

Think I'll get my bicycle out! :D

Macca
25-09-2021, 09:30
another situation where reverse psychology should have been employed. If the Gov had said 'Everyone needs to go out and panic buy fuel' no-one would have gone near the filling stations for weeks.

Same as in lockdown 'Everyone stay in your houses' - I walk past the park, it's jammed with people. Went past the park the other day, lovely weather, hardly anyone in there.

Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 10:53
another situation where reverse psychology should have been employed. If the Gov had said 'Everyone needs to go out and panic buy fuel' no-one would have gone near the filling stations for weeks.

Same as in lockdown 'Everyone stay in your houses' - I walk past the park, it's jammed with people. Went past the park the other day, lovely weather, hardly anyone in there.

Message to everyone out there: don't club together and buy Piggurs some JBL K2s - he wouldn't appreciate it so don't waste your money :)

Marco
25-09-2021, 11:09
"no need to panic buy fuel" according to the government. You'll still have to queue for ages at the remaining petrol stations that are still open and now rationing their last dregs of fuel, but just don't panic!

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/fuel-crisis-live-petrol-stations-5968718

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAlKb97UcA4&ab_channel=Channel4News

Are the petrol stations that are closing switching off their electric charging points? Bet they are, that'll be a double whammy!

Think I'll get my bicycle out! :D

Lol - indeed. It's situations like this that simply reinforces the reasons why not to join the 'electric revolution':doh:

As for fuel, I'lve got enough in the Brabster to last me 2 weeks, when this nonsense will be over, and Del can walk to work. Still no evidence of food shortages here, and if there are, we've got plenty in to last us a month, especially with deliveries of essentials from the dairy every 2 days.

So we'll just be sitting back and giggling at all the madness!!:D:mental:

Marco.

Barry
25-09-2021, 11:12
What will happen when your dairy runs out of fuel?

struth
25-09-2021, 11:17
im nearly full of fuel.. that rhymes, and you know it rhymes:eyebrows:

only driving of late have been looking for cars, which is now over and just running it for fun.. run for fun, that rhymes, and you know it rhymes:eyebrows:

struth
25-09-2021, 11:17
What will happen when your dairy runs out of fuel?

run on milk:ner: or get the horses out

Marco
25-09-2021, 11:17
Lol - unlikely by Wednesday, when this shite should be over. If not, then we'll sort something out. The farm shop is only 10 mins away, which sells the same stuff, and which none of the plebs use, thus will be blissfully free of panic-buyers!:D;)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 11:28
Lol - unlikely by Wednesday, when this shite should be over. If not, then we'll sort something out. The farm shop is only 10 mins away, which sells the same stuff, and which none of the plebs use, thus will be blissfully free of panic-buyers!:D;)

Marco.

Probably won't be free of folk when they can't get their stuff from the supermarkets. Us plebs are a resourceful bunch, and not averse to using some of our hoarded fuel to get us to farm shops :)

Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 11:30
What will happen when your dairy runs out of fuel?

Coming soon to a field near you - a bloke with a stool and a bucket

Marco
25-09-2021, 11:47
Probably won't be free of folk when they can't get their stuff from the supermarkets. Us plebs are a resourceful bunch, and not averse to using some of our hoarded fuel to get us to farm shops :)

Lol - do plebs (of which of course I don't consider you as one) eat fresh fruit and veg? In any case, I doubt they'd pay the prices at farm shops. Plus, the deal breaker for them of course is that they don't sell any oven chips!:lol:

Marco.

walpurgis
25-09-2021, 11:59
As for fuel, I'lve got enough in the Brabster to last me 2 weeks

Marco.

I estimate that I probably have enough juice to last until after Easter :).

Marco
25-09-2021, 12:12
Good stuff, mate:thumbsup:

Marco.

struth
25-09-2021, 12:14
Lol - do plebs (of which of course I don't consider you as one) eat fresh fruit and veg? In any case, I doubt they'd pay the prices at farm shops. Plus, the deal breaker for them of course is that they don't sell any oven chips![emoji38]

Marco.I'm a pleb, if a slightly better than average one, and eat what I eat including frozen chips from time to time.
I even occasionally eat fruit n veg. [emoji23]

Barry
25-09-2021, 12:18
I estimate that I probably have enough juice to last until after Easter :).

If it is only a matter of shopping for food (assuming that the shops don't run out), then everything I need is within 10 minutes walk. So based on that, I have enough fuel to last me to next Christmas. :lol:

Marco
25-09-2021, 12:25
I'm a pleb, if a slightly better than average one, and eat what I eat including frozen chips from time to time.
I even occasionally eat fruit n veg. [emoji23]

Lol, well I don't consider you as a pleb (of any description) - pleb's don't have your whisky collection!:D

Marco.

Macca
25-09-2021, 12:56
For those that are hoarding petrol (either in the tank or in jerry cans) I am wondering if they know that it will only take approx 4 weeks in a tank or 6 months in a sealed container before it goes off and engine performance is compromised?

Also if stockpiling more than 30 litres there are regulatory requirements.

struth
25-09-2021, 13:13
Lol, well I don't consider you as a pleb (of any description) - pleb's don't have your whisky collection!:D

Marco.

so thats all i have between me and plebhood eh? :eek: i better get drinking

struth
25-09-2021, 13:26
For those that are hoarding petrol (either in the tank or in jerry cans) I am wondering if they know that it will only take approx 4 weeks in a tank or 6 months in a sealed container before it goes off and engine performance is compromised?

Also if stockpiling more than 30 litres there are regulatory requirements.

would say 3 months in tank. wouldnt like to car test it tho as it wont run as well

Alex_UK
25-09-2021, 13:26
People really are tw@ts, I hate the human race more each day! Had to take Billy to his drum lesson this morning in Stowmarket and then into Ipswich for his tutor - three Tesco, one Sainsbury’s two Esso three BP and one Co-Op petrol station en route - every single one of them closed and “no fuel” signs up.

Then I see on Facebook the Police pleading with motorists to stop calling 999 to report they’re stuck in traffic jams as people have been queuing for petrol! FFS, why would you dial 999 for that, over a 100 calls!

So now there’s nowhere to get petrol, and if you genuinely need to fill up, you’re stuffed. So all those who didn’t panic buy won’t be able to go anywhere, schools, hospitals, shops etc.etc. will now have a percentage of staff that won’t be able to get in causing further downward spirals. And how many HGV drivers have to drive to their depots to get to their lorries, to go and collect the fuel to get to the petrol stations that the bunch of cockwombles have hoarded!

I despair, I really do.

struth
25-09-2021, 13:38
People really are tw@ts, I hate the human race more each day! Had to take Billy to his drum lesson this morning in Stowmarket and then into Ipswich for his tutor - three Tesco, one Sainsbury’s two Esso three BP and one Co-Op petrol station en route - every single one of them closed and “no fuel” signs up.

Then I see on Facebook the Police pleading with motorists to stop calling 999 to report they’re stuck in traffic jams as people have been queuing for petrol! FFS, why would you dial 999 for that, over a 100 calls!

So now there’s nowhere to get petrol, and if you genuinely need to fill up, you’re stuffed. So all those who didn’t panic buy won’t be able to go anywhere, schools, hospitals, shops etc.etc. will now have a percentage of staff that won’t be able to get in causing further downward spirals. And how many HGV drivers have to drive to their depots to get to their lorries, to go and collect the fuel to get to the petrol stations that the bunch of cockwombles have hoarded!

I despair, I really do.

these folk cant help themselves. any fear they might not get something and they go buy a dozen of them. With cv and lockdown folk were buying food they didnt need and then a week or so later flung it in bin unrepentantly. the govt needs to have a word with news outlets and tell them not to print shit like that, or life will be made difficult

walpurgis
25-09-2021, 13:40
would say 3 months in tank. wouldnt like to car test it tho as it wont run as well

The E10 juice in my car tank last year must have been six months old and E5 I put in my bike a few months ago was a couple of years old and I had no running issues. There may have been measurably compromised performance, but I noticed nothing.

Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 14:00
The E10 juice in my car tank last year must have been six months old and E5 I put in my bike a few months ago was a couple of years old and I had no running issues. There may have been measurably compromised performance, but I noticed nothing.

The effects may not be immediately noticeable, but gradual and more importantly, expensive to put right. Having said that, my bike gets laid up every winter with whatever E5 fuel is left in, and there has been no problems during my 15 years of ownership. The potential problems may well be exaggerated by those who would profit, namely the manufacturers of fuel stabilizers.

But E10 has double the amount of ethanol, so that could change,

struth
25-09-2021, 14:04
The E10 juice in my car tank last year must have been six months old and E5 I put in my bike a few months ago was a couple of years old and I had no running issues. There may have been measurably compromised performance, but I noticed nothing.

if car etc is kept in a cool place it will take a lot longer. a cool garage etc is good.

walpurgis
25-09-2021, 14:30
I said it would be bread next.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-09-24/warburtons-struggle-to-stock-shelves-as-160-hgv-driver-vacancies-remain-unfilled

Just wait for the panic buyers to clear the shelves now :rolleyes:.

Pigmy Pony
25-09-2021, 14:36
And by next week the bins will be full of mouldy loaves, and no one to take them away as the bin wagons will have no fuel :(

Alex_UK
25-09-2021, 21:57
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s720x720/242833662_4790014614355476_2952096142742856285_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ZTVFXADuVogAX9ijNg_&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=4e8ecd59fbd4461cd9713455b37f4761&oe=6175697E

guy
26-09-2021, 07:38
:lol:

Alex_UK
26-09-2021, 13:49
The BBC can't have sent this reporter to do a piece on panic buying petrol by accident! :lol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAHwuNQVUAMPHcT.jpg

Barry
26-09-2021, 14:51
https://scontent-lcy1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s720x720/242833662_4790014614355476_2952096142742856285_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=ZTVFXADuVogAX9ijNg_&_nc_ht=scontent-lcy1-1.xx&oh=4e8ecd59fbd4461cd9713455b37f4761&oe=6175697E

Which reminds me - I recently bought a '6 pack' of loo rolls, all of which appeared to be the usual diameter. However when I took one out to fit on the holder, I noticed the inner cardboard tube was larger than expected - meaning there was less paper on each roll. Crafty way for the manufacturer to save money.

Marco
26-09-2021, 15:46
The BBC can't have sent this reporter to do a piece on panic buying petrol by accident! :lol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAHwuNQVUAMPHcT.jpg

Well the name's rather appropriate! Is that Phil McCavity's straight brother?:D

I was in Chester earlier, collecting a TV wall bracket from Richer Sounds, so swung by the BP station on the way back (simply because I was passing right passed it), and filled up. No stress, no drama:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
26-09-2021, 16:01
Well the name's rather appropriate!:D

I was Chester earlier, collecting a TV wall bracket from Richer Sounds, so swung by the BP station on the way back (simply because I was passing right passed it), and filled up. No stress, no drama:)

Marco.

BP? If the Texaco rewards team find out, you'll be off their Christmas cards list :( I imagine your custom is very important to them, as most motorists down your way run their motors on liquefied sheep bebs.

Marco
26-09-2021, 16:12
Lol - I knew you'd pick me up on that! As I said, I was literally passing right in front of it, so given the current situation, it would've been remiss of me not to fill up:)

I've already spoken with the manager of the other Texaco station I use (not the one in Wrexham centre, but in a little village on the outskirts), who, due to idiots panic buying, has already sold his weekly allocation of fuel, and so now is just running the station as a shop, and he informed me that he'll be getting another delivery of fuel on either Tuesday or Wednesday.

I asked if he could call me when it arrives (which he's done before with other stuff), so I could pop down and top up, and that was no problem. Therefore, the human touch pays off again, and demonstrates why I like dealing with PEOPLE, not machines!!;)

Marco.

Batty
27-09-2021, 03:16
Did they put you on a pile of meds Steve?

No, not really, I was already on blood thinners, BP and Cholesterol meds, plus some for gout.

walpurgis
27-09-2021, 11:34
Oh dear, Watching Rachel Reeves, the Shadow Chancellor speaking at the Labour Party Conference. She's trying to appear emphatic, but putting the emphasis in the wrong places. All a bit tragic really.

Still, at least they seem to be keeping the hilarious Diane Abbott under wraps for now! :lol:

struth
27-09-2021, 11:39
Oh dear, Watching Rachel Reeves, the Shadow Chancellor speaking at the Labour Party Conference. She's trying to appear emphatic, but putting the emphasis in the wrong places. All a bit tragic really.

Still, at least they seem to be keeping the hilarious Diane Abbott under wraps for now! :lol:

never heard of her; but i dont really follow politics or comedy much;)

Barry
27-09-2021, 12:37
Oh dear, Watching Rachel Reeves, the Shadow Chancellor speaking at the Labour Party Conference. She's trying to appear emphatic, but putting the emphasis in the wrong places. All a bit tragic really.

Still, at least they seem to be keeping the hilarious Diane Abbott under wraps for now! :lol:

Can't be any worse than to hear Boris Johnson speaking at all.

Marco
27-09-2021, 12:43
'Speaking'? You're being rather complimentary, aren't you? More like an incoherent ramble.

Marco.

Barry
27-09-2021, 18:44
Now the cash points around here are running out of money. :doh:

guy
27-09-2021, 18:45
I haven't used cash for nearly two years, so it must be some other bugger hoarding it :lol:

Marco
27-09-2021, 18:55
Really?? We use cash all the time. As they say cash is king!

All you're doing is feeding the desire of the 'powers that be' to create a digital society - not good;)

Marco.

guy
27-09-2021, 19:12
Really?? We use cash all the time. As they say cash is king!

All you're doing is feeding the desire of the 'powers that be' to create a digital society - not good;)

Marco.

Village shop wouldn't accept cash (Covid), fair enough as "staff" are all volunteers and some are quite elderly/at risk. Similar at pub when it has been open - local is quite happy to run a tab and settle by card at end of session.
Supermarkets/garages/on line purchases all with card - even carparks around here have card payment.

I think that the "digital" age is already upon us - although I still buy records :) (possibly digitally mastered though :doh:)

Barry
27-09-2021, 19:31
Some shops will not take card payments (they have to pay commission), others will not accept cash. So I usually have a little cash with me, but usually pay with card in the shops I use.

Marco
27-09-2021, 19:37
Lol... A digital society [what I'm referring to] is quite a different thing from 'a digital age'...

The Covid virus on banknotes thing is a load of bollox, as there are *so* many other things in a shop that the virus could transfer itself to (from the general public), and onto the staff accordingly, making refusing to take cash akin to just pissing in the wind.

Can't say I've ever been anywhere around here that's refused cash - certainly all shops and restaurants accept it, and I don't use car parks very often. However we did use one on Saturday, when we went to the cinema, and it took both - they're nice that way up here:D

Marco.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 19:42
Whenever we go to a restaurant I always pay the bill by contactless (phone) but leave a tip in cash - never had anyone refuse the tip, even when they’re a cashless establishment!

Marco
27-09-2021, 19:51
Good move. We do similar, but I can't say I know of any 'cashless establishments' around here. Must be a southern thing!;)

Marco.

Barry
27-09-2021, 19:52
I've seen people pay bus fares by that method. :eek:

guy
27-09-2021, 19:56
Whenever we go to a restaurant I always pay the bill by contactless (phone) but leave a tip in cash - never had anyone refuse the tip, even when they’re a cashless establishment!

Quite right - I know of one "pub"/restaurant locally that only accepts cards (may be first in the country I think), but I would rather tip in cash just to be sure that the person I want to tip actually gets it.

guy
27-09-2021, 19:58
found it:
https://www.thefrestonboot.co.uk/why-we-are-cashless/

interesting reasons given:)

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 20:03
Coincidentally The Boot was the first pub we went to post-lockdown, and I did leave a cash tip. (Great pub actually, been a couple of times this year after trips to Jimmy’s Farm. :) )

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 20:10
I must say, though Marco would hate it, but using Apple Wallet to store my cards has been a revelation - no limit on the amount, no pin, just present my phone, touch the fingerprint reader (or look at it if you have one with face recognition) and it’s done. So much safer than cash or card. Unfortunately the hut at the farm where we get our eggs from is very much cash only though!

Joking aside, I believe some buskers are now getting contactless receivers, as so many less of us carry cash. Smart move.

Marco
27-09-2021, 20:20
found it:
https://www.thefrestonboot.co.uk/why-we-are-cashless/

interesting reasons given:)

All superficially laudable reasons, but IMO, it sets a dangerous precedent. Whilst cash is still widely accepted, and you have cash in your pocket, YOU are in control of your money, not the bank, or whoever controls the bank's computer.

Think about what could happen, if/when the former were no longer the case...

Marco.

Marco
27-09-2021, 20:25
I must say, though Marco would hate it, but using Apple Wallet to store my cards has been a revelation - no limit on the amount, no pin, just present my phone, touch the fingerprint reader (or look at it if you have one with face recognition) and it’s done. So much safer than cash or card.

...and SO much easier for the authorities to misuse the technology and rule your finances, if that's what they ever decided was in their best interests!:doh:;)

And yes, I'd detest it!:D

Marco.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 20:29
Well that’s true, but I have very little option but to rely on the banking system for the twenty odd Direct Debits and Standing Orders that are set up, so in reality, all I could do is withdraw my “disposable income” in cash. I used to carry a sizeable amount (around £100 at least) but having had my wallet stolen twice and lost once, with the last time my contactless cards being used for multiple small purchases, I’m grateful for the biometric security I now have. I’d rather trust the bank’s computer systems (and that’s saying something from an IT Manager in the Financial Services sector! :lol: ) than some toe rag who thieves or finds my wallet... but I do get your point.

Marco
27-09-2021, 20:41
Lol, and I totally get yours. However, you and I have very different lifestyles, and therefore different financial habits/behaviour. My lifestyle (semi-retired, no debts, few things to pay) probably allows me to do things that yours simply couldn't facilitate.

For example, how much would doing without a smartphone for a month impact on your life, and how?

Marco.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 21:00
My smartphone is actually a company one, so I only really use it for work emails aside from it being a phone to take and make calls with, and aside from checking the weather and sport when I’m out and about, that’s about it. I do however use my iPad an awful lot now, but as a laptop replacement. I used to have a laptop in the living room but decided to stop that, as I always ended up surfing instead of watching the program or film on the telly... iPad handy to have in the kitchen for recipes, this place, (Tapatalk) and a bit of other stuff, but actually, I’m not that wedded to technology/gadgets, I get enough of that stuff with my job.

Marco
27-09-2021, 21:25
Fair enough, but your job is a major part of your life, and so controls many aspects of it accordingly. One of the things I dislike most about modern living is how employers expect you to be 'connected' (or effectively available and at their beck and call), almost 24/7.

Gone are the days when, if your boss or manager wanted something from you, he or she would have to wait until the following morning when you came into work. Now they just email or text you at anytime of the day or night and expect you to act upon any instructions given!:rolleyes:

Similarly, gone are the days when whatever time you finished work, was when you FINISHED work - now for your employer, your (unpaid overtime) services are simply a few clicks away - and that's all down to technology and how controlling it can be, along with a massive intrusion on what should be your free time.

Anyway, mate, I realise that you do what you have to do to survive. Just pointing out that technology has much to answer, as well as be praised for:)

Marco.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 21:35
Well in my case, it’s very much swings and roundabouts- yes to a lot of what you have said, but many employers, my own included, are very supportive with wellbeing and mental health/stress and flexible if needed. (One of the few benefits of the COVID-19 pandemic is that I think this has improved in a lot of companies.). I actually prefer to “keep my finger on the pulse” outside of my “official” hours, but my job is slightly different to a lot I guess.

We’re all different and thankfully so, it’s really only a problem if you’re forced into a position you don’t want to be in.

Marco
27-09-2021, 22:03
Indeed so, although I think a lot of the stress/mental health issues are brought on by the conditions people have to work under these days, and the amount of hours they're forced to work. There was no need for such 'support' when I was working, as in general the demands placed upon you and the pressure you were put under on a daily basis was less.

I can't comment on how it is where you work, but what I've said is so often the case now, leading to a rather unhealthy work/life balance, and it can cause problems in your personal relationships, especially if you have young kids [the 'daddy's never here, but always at work' syndrome], and they suffer for it, whether you realise it or not.

I think you do a remarkable job in that respect, btw, balancing work with the quality time you spend with Sue and the kids. However, in general work dominates too many people's lives these days and seems to be the main focus of their existence. For example, when you get together to socialise with friends, who also all have demanding jobs, how much of the time does the conversation revolve around work?;)

When instead you should be leaving that aside, switching off, and concentrating on enjoying yourself and talking about *anything else* BUT work! That is, if you (as in 'one') have a life worthy of the name outside of such, and you were actually TALKING to each other at all, instead of everyone simply being glued to their phones like zombies...:doh:

Marco.

walpurgis
28-09-2021, 14:56
From Sky News, an industry report suggests "the fuel situation seems to be stabilising and there are signs shortages may be ending". I said it would be over by Wednesday. All caused by the media stirring up panic buying!

Also, the RAC say they are dealing with fourteen times as many breakdowns due to drivers running out of fuel. What kind of idiots just keep driving until they run out of juice? There must be a lot of them. Bonkers!

Marco
28-09-2021, 15:38
Good news.. Hasn't stopped these clowns though, behaving like Neanderthals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFj6zryg_EU

Doesn't take much for so-called 'civilised' human beings to turn back into barbarians, does it?:doh:

I hope that specimen with the knife gets locked up where he belongs.

Marco.

Macca
29-09-2021, 06:51
What kind of idiots just keep driving until they run out of juice? There must be a lot of them. Bonkers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtVJiK8Lws

walpurgis
29-09-2021, 07:12
I gather thought is being given to making misogyny illegal. Should one consider how much truth there may be behind the evolution of stereotypes? Pick the bones out of that one!

Macca
29-09-2021, 07:55
I gather thought is being given to making misogyny illegal. Should one consider how much truth there may be behind the evolution of stereotypes? Pick the bones out of that one!

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies''.

Marco
29-09-2021, 07:57
Lol - I like that!:D

Or to bring it up to date, replace "omnipotent moral busybodies'' with the Woke generation!

Marco.

walpurgis
29-09-2021, 11:54
Just been out for a mooch around, first time in over a week. The local Heston Road Shell service station is quiet and selling fuel, the Shell station at Gillette Corner on the A4 has queues and Tesco round the corner in Syon Lane also has queues. So we're not back to 'normal' yet. Good job I don't need juice.

Marco
29-09-2021, 12:09
My local friendly, family-run, filling station phoned earlier (as arranged) and informed me that they'd had a fuel delivery in, so off I popped, and filled up. No stress, no drama:)

That's me got a full tank now, so won't be going near another filling station until this pish is over!

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 12:31
had car out but didnt pass any stations. i imagine it will still be some queueing going on. folk just cant help themseves:eyebrows:

struth
29-09-2021, 12:33
like in the war, if you saw a queue forming you joined it; even though you didnt know what you were queueing for; its a queue so must be summat worth getting:D

Marco
29-09-2021, 12:40
Well, you know me and queues!!:guns:

I simply don't 'do' them :nono:

Marco.

Firebottle
29-09-2021, 15:48
Went over to Much Menlock, no queue at the service station.

Sign said £40 max but only put £30 in as didn't need more, I have about 3/4 of a tank.

struth
29-09-2021, 17:47
The government's reserve tanker fleet was being deployed on Wednesday afternoon to boost fuel deliveries, the business secretary said.

Civilians were driving the trucks from their depots in Cambridgeshire and West Yorkshire, Kwasi Kwarteng said.

He has also said soldiers would be delivering fuel in the coming days.

The fuel industry said the situation at the pumps "has begun to improve" and it was working with the government to maintain regular deliveries of fuel.

The joint statement, from 14 companies including Shell UK, BP and Esso, comes after days of long queues at petrol stations.

It said: "We remain confident that the situation will stabilise further in the coming days and encourage everyone to fill up as they normally would to help forecourts return to normal."

The industry statement also said there had "always been plenty of fuel at our refineries and terminals" and welcomed the deployment of the reserve tanker fleet.
Mr Kwarteng admitted the situation had been "difficult" but denied there was a crisis in UK fuel supplies.

Ministers have decided to deploy troops to drive tankers in "the next couple of days", he said, in addition to the civilians driving them from Wednesday.

Some 150 military drivers are ready to drive the fuel tankers, with another 150 Army personnel ready to support them.

The Petrol Retailers Association (PRA) said there were "encouraging signs" the pressure was starting to ease at the pumps, with forecourts taking further fuel deliveries.

walpurgis
29-09-2021, 17:55
Not content with fuel shortages, the Mirror (and probably other media) are stoking panic buying across the board.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/items-short-supply-bread-toys-25096331

struth
29-09-2021, 17:56
PERHAPS A FEW JOURNOS SHOULD BE SHOT AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS:eyebrows:

guy
29-09-2021, 19:26
PERHAPS A FEW JOURNOS SHOULD BE SHOT AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS:eyebrows:

Bloody hell no, we just couldn't manage if there were a journalist shortage :eek:

Alex_UK
29-09-2021, 20:20
Bloody hell no, we just couldn't manage if there were a journalist shortage :eek:

:lol:

Macca
30-09-2021, 06:22
Bring in Polish journalists.

Marco
30-09-2021, 07:19
So, remind me again, what supposedly were the benefits for the common man in leaving the EU?

IME, everything has become more expensive or more difficult to obtain, plus longer to get hold of. Del sent a parcel to her cousin in Germany the other day that would normally have cost £3.50, and was now over £7.

I bought some cables on Ebay recently from Poland, which would've normally arrived in a few days, and instead took 3 WEEKS - all because of delays relating to Brexit. And now, largely because of the same (Brexit) we've got a fuel crisis because of a lack of drivers, due mainly to Polish drivers, who made up a large percentage of the workforce, leaving and going elsewhere.

I don't give a flying fuck for any supposed highfalutin benefits for the fat cats or the big shots of this world, for leaving the EU, *only* what affects MY life (and I'm sure others like me feel the same) on a daily basis, and since leaving the EU, all I've experienced so far is greater expense and inconvenience!!:doh::rolleyes:

Marco.

Macca
30-09-2021, 07:56
driver shortage is global, USA short 60,000, Germany 40,000, China 400,000

This is mostly due to the pandemic and the consequent massive increase in people wanting stuff delivered.

Anyone from the EU who was driving a lorry here could have stayed and continued, it wasn't like they had to go home. I suspect a lot did due to the pandemic, not Brexit.

It was the EU's decision to cancel the customs union, we were happy to stay in it. So blame them for adding VAT to your shipment to Poland.

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 08:02
Not to mention the many HGV drivers retiring and not being replaced, partly because new ones can't get driving licences due to the huge backlog at DVLA. I've been waiting since June for my replacement car driver's licence.

struth
30-09-2021, 08:08
BJ reckons the best way is to let car drivers loose on artics:eyebrows: that'll clear the rds

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 08:13
BJ reckons the best way is to let car drivers loose on artics:eyebrows: that'll clear the rds

Well, it would certainly help reduce the population. The 'locals' can't even handle a car properly!

Marco
30-09-2021, 08:26
driver shortage is global, USA short 60,000, Germany 40,000, China 400,000


So how come we're the only ones with fuel shortages and huge queues outside filling stations? There certainly aren't any in Germany (nor in Italy, for that matter), as Del was talking to her relatives about that and everything is normal there.

I don't doubt that the pandemic (and also what Geoff's mentioned about drivers retiring and not being replaced) hasn't helped matters, but neither has leaving the EU. Since Brexit, all I can see so far is evidence of hinderance!


It was the EU's decision to cancel the customs union, we were happy to stay in it. So blame them for adding VAT to your shipment to Poland.

I wasn't talking about VAT. I was complaining about the inordinate amount of time the cables took to arrive, compared with before, and when I mentioned it to the seller, he assured me that the delays were to do with Brexit and how that was impacting on stuff arriving in the UK from Europe.

The cables left Poland and arrived here quickly enough, but took longer to get through UK customs and be delivered than when I get stuff from China!!

Plus, who's fault is then that sending goods to Europe now costs more than double what it did before when we were in the EU? Over £7 to send a little parcel to Germany. Bloody ridiculous.

Marco.

struth
30-09-2021, 08:41
we are only country to start silly rumours(and believe them);)

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 08:50
we are only country to start silly rumours(and believe them);)

Donald Trump was actually an electric mannequin :).

struth
30-09-2021, 09:18
Donald Trump was actually an electric mannequin :).

there was talk of him becoming self-aware, but only talk;)

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 09:27
there was talk of him becoming self-aware, but only talk;)

Hasn't happened yet :D.

Marco
30-09-2021, 09:29
there was talk of him becoming self-aware, but only talk;)

Tories to blame for something else then, eh?;)

Marco.

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 09:36
Starmer must be rubbing his hands with glee.................not that his lot would have a hope in hell of running things properly!

Marco
30-09-2021, 09:47
Lol - they're all clowns, but BJ-boy, and his hapless cronies, much more than most!:mental:

Marco.

Macca
30-09-2021, 11:14
So how come we're the only ones with fuel shortages and huge queues outside filling stations?

Because the media said there might be shortages so everyone went to fill up all at the same time whether they needed to or not. If there was no story there'd have been no queues.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Delay in your parcel would be Polish customs. Also the reduction in air travel due to the pandemic means less flights to put shipments on so it might have been sat around for a while awaiting its turn.

Obviously pre-Brexit the parcel would not have needed to have been processed by Polish customs, increase in price will be Polish VAT at 23% plus all shipping prices have gone up since Covid.

walpurgis
30-09-2021, 11:24
Because the media said there might be shortages so everyone went to fill up all at the same time whether they needed to or not.

Prezackly! :)

Marco
30-09-2021, 11:37
Because the media said there might be shortages so everyone went to fill up all at the same time whether they needed to or not. If there was no story there'd have been no queues.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.


Yes, too many SHEEPle and not enough PEOPLE! Dumb fucks... I agree, but everyone knowledgeable about this matter I've heard on TV recently still partly blames Brexit, and for good reason. I'm sorry, you'll not convince me that leaving the EU has *zero* to do with our current fuel problems.


Obviously pre-Brexit the parcel would not have needed to have been processed by Polish customs, increase in price will be Polish VAT at 23% plus all shipping prices have gone up since Covid.

Well, there you go, so as that would've caused a good chunk of the delay, Brexit was to blame. So can you see why I can see NO advantages whatsoever in it for MY lifestyle and ME, unless you can think of any? Can you blame me then for not voting for it...?

Oh, and you still haven't said who's to blame for parcels to Germany now costing double what they did pre-Brexit! Are you sure Brexit isn't to blame in ANY way?;)

And I'd appreciate an answer to that this time, rather than more avoidance tactics!!:ner:;)

Marco [can so far see NO gains whatsoever to the quality of his life since the UK left the EU, and can't see any in future either].

Macca
30-09-2021, 12:47
Yes, too many SHEEPle and not enough PEOPLE! Dumb fucks... I agree, but everyone knowledgeable about this matter I've heard on TV recently still partly blames Brexit, and for good reason. I'm sorry, you'll not convince me that leaving the EU has *zero* to do with our current fuel problems.



Well, there you go, so as that would've caused a good chunk of the delay, Brexit was to blame. So can you see why I can see NO advantages whatsoever in it for MY lifestyle and ME, unless you can think of any? Can you blame me then for not voting for it...?

Oh, and you still haven't said who's to blame for parcels to Germany now costing double what they did pre-Brexit! Are you sure Brexit isn't to blame in ANY way?;)

And I'd appreciate an answer to that this time, rather than more avoidance tactics!!:ner:;)

Marco [can so far see NO gains whatsoever to the quality of his life since the UK left the EU, and can't see any in future either].

I don't blame you for voting against Brexit! I might have if remain had won though...

Germany, Poland it's all the same - you now pay VAT when you didn't before. That was the EU's idea. Plus Covid has increased shipping charges to everywhere.

Brexit was not actually about improving your life so that might be why you feel short-changed :D

struth
30-09-2021, 13:02
only thing brexit did was show europe up for what they are. we already knew what the tories in charge were like, so no surprises there.

Marco
30-09-2021, 14:06
I don't blame you for voting against Brexit! I might have if remain had won though...


Ha- very good!:D


Germany, Poland it's all the same - you now pay VAT when you didn't before. That was the EU's idea.


Yes, the EU's idea, as a result of Brexit. Would they have had that idea, or indeed implemented it, if the UK had remained part of the EU?

Plus, 20% VAT doesn't explain why posting things to Germany now costs more than DOUBLE what it did before. That only accounts for 20% of the increase. What about the rest...??


Brexit was not actually about improving your life so that might be why you feel short-changed :D

HAHAHA, oh I know - that's why I didn't vote for that pish. However, what aspects of YOUR life did you consider would be improved, as a result of leaving the EU? You must've thought it would be a good thing for you in some way, either in the short, medium or long term, so I'm curious as to what that was?

Btw, I'm only interested in what Macca thought would benefit Macca DIRECTLY in Macca's day to day life, not any wider, complicated high-brow political shit.

And another thing, from my POV, let's see how much more it costs when I'm next in France or Italy and want to bring a shedload of wine back in the car!!:doh:

Marco.

P.S So you're still saying that Brexit has ZERO, ZILCH, NADA to do with our current fuel crisis?

Barry
30-09-2021, 16:29
Because the media said there might be shortages so everyone went to fill up all at the same time whether they needed to or not. If there was no story there'd have been no queues.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.



Shouldn't that be a "self fuel filling prophecy"?

struth
30-09-2021, 16:33
Shouldn't that be a "self fuel filling prophecy"?

oooha, thats a boom, boom:D

Macca
30-09-2021, 17:13
Ha- very good!:D



Yes, the EU's idea, as a result of Brexit. Would they have had that idea, or indeed implemented it, if the UK had remained part of the EU?

Plus, 20% VAT doesn't explain why posting things to Germany now costs more than DOUBLE what it did before. That only accounts for 20% of the increase. What about the rest...??



HAHAHA, oh I know - that's why I didn't vote for that pish. However, what aspects of YOUR life did you consider would be improved, as a result of leaving the EU? You must've thought it would be a good thing for you in some way, either in the short, medium or long term, so I'm curious as to what that was?

Btw, I'm only interested in what Macca thought would benefit Macca DIRECTLY in Macca's day to day life, not any wider, complicated high-brow political shit.

And another thing, from my POV, let's see how much more it costs when I'm next in France or Italy and want to bring a shedload of wine back in the car!!:doh:

Marco.

P.S So you're still saying that Brexit has ZERO, ZILCH, NADA to do with our current fuel crisis?

For me personally it hasn't really made any difference at all. Except they took the EU Swastika down from the flagpole outside of work. That was a good day.

I don't think it's anything to do with Brexit, no. Not unless the Americans, Germans and Chinese all had Brexit too.

I already said that shipping costs have gone up due to the pandemic as demand for air freight has massively outstripped supply.

It's funny that we have a global pandemic that has massively affected every aspect of everything in the world and yet people are still claiming 'It's Brexit!'.

Pigmy Pony
30-09-2021, 18:13
we already knew what the tories in charge were like, so no surprises there.

:thumbsup:

Damn, highlighted wrong bit. I blame Brexit