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Macca
06-09-2020, 13:21
You'll get there pal just you see, that mobile of yours will start getting harder to see clearly and reading matter will start blurring! :lol:

And when it goes, it goes fast. One day you find that you can't read the writing on the spines on your albums and CDs and that's it. Even though it was no problem the day before.

Marco
06-09-2020, 13:22
You'll get there pal just you see, that mobile of yours will start getting harder to see clearly and reading matter will start blurring! :lol:

Lol - no doubt, but at what age, I wonder? None of that going on yet, even at 55...

When Del went to the opticians, just before lockdown, to get a new pair of specs (frames plus lenses), she was given a sheet of laminated paper, with (I think) five paragraphs of text on it, in varying sizes, from biggest to smallest, and I tried it and managed to successfully read all but the last one, which was pretty tiny!

The only difference I've noticed in my eyesight, since say 15 years ago, is that I find it harder to read now in low-light conditions, but as long as the light's good enough, there's no problem:)

Must've been all those carrots I ate when I was young!:D

Marco.

Marco
06-09-2020, 13:28
And when it goes, it goes fast. One day you find that you can't read the writing on the spines on your albums and CDs and that's it. Even though it was no problem the day before.

I always thought that, with age, it was more of slow deterioration? Or you were unfortunately just born with poor eyesight.

One thing that won't bother me one iota, when I need to wear glasses, is how they look, as there are all sorts of cool/stylish frames these days, whereas at one time [remember the 'Deidre Barlow' look, from the 70s, or other 'thick milk-bottle types'?:doh:], and with frames, all you could get was 'jobby brown' colour! UGH...

So as long as you get the right frames to suit your head size and face shape, it can look quite distinctive:)

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 13:43
I always thought that, with age, it was more of slow deterioration? Or you were unfortunately just born with poor eyesight.

One thing that won't bother me one iota, when I need to wear glasses, is how they look, as there are all sorts of cool/stylish frames these days, whereas at one time [remember the 'Deidre Barlow' look, from the 70s, or other 'thick milk-bottle types'?:doh:], and with frames, all you could get was 'jobby brown' colour! UGH...

So as long as you get the right frames to suit your head size and face shape, it can look quite distinctive:)

Marco.

I can imagine you rocking a "Timmy Mallet" look, or maybe some Elton John jobbies that spell the word "ZOOM". Or POOP.

Macca
06-09-2020, 13:45
I always thought that, with age, it was more of slow deterioration? Or you were unfortunately just born with poor eyesight.

One thing that won't bother me one iota, when I need to wear glasses, is how they look, as there are all sorts of cool/stylish frames these days, whereas at one time [remember the 'Deidre Barlow' look, from the 70s, or other 'thick milk-bottle types'?:doh:], and with frames, all you could get was 'jobby brown' colour! UGH...

So as long as you get the right frames to suit your head size and face shape, it can look quite distinctive:)

Marco.

I had to wear specs from age 14. Only had the first pair about a week and I got in a fight and they got broken. Parents not happy. After that had to avoid getting in fights. Sport harder too, you can't play footie in specs and you're not much use on the pitch when you can't really see what is going on 30 feet away. Not that I was any good anyway but did enjoy it.

The other disadvantage at that age is it makes you less confident with girls. Although at an all-boys school that wasn't really relevant for me that often. Later you find out the vast majority of women don't care.

I'm short sighted so can see to read and stuff fine. Just with age I now can't read close up with specs on, I have to take them off or look over them. That change did happen very quickly.

Genetic, both parents and one brother short-sighted too. Not much you can do about it.

walpurgis
06-09-2020, 13:51
I always thought that, with age, it was more of slow deterioration?

Marco.

It generally is, but it sneaks up on you.

What I first noticed was fine print becoming harder to read. I'm mostly far sighted and can read road signs and number plates OK to an extent, but I'm knackered with anything close up.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 14:05
It generally is, but it sneaks up on you.

What I first noticed was fine print becoming harder to read. I'm mostly far sighted and can read road signs and number plates OK to an extent, but I'm knackered with anything close up.

That's me too. I can read most things in daylight, but with artificial light I'm screwed. During the winter months my A-Z in the car is not worth bothering with.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 14:08
When Del went to the opticians, just before lockdown, to get a new pair of specs (frames plus lenses), she was given a sheet of laminated paper, with (I think) five paragraphs of text on it, in varying sizes, from biggest to smallest, and I tried it and managed to successfully read all but the last one, which was pretty tiny!


Must've been all those carrots I ate when I was young!:D

Marco.

I bet when Del saw you after collecting her first pair of specs, her reaction was somewhere between :eek: and :eek::eek::eek:

struth
06-09-2020, 14:12
It generally is, but it sneaks up on you.

What I first noticed was fine print becoming harder to read. I'm mostly far sighted and can read road signs and number plates OK to an extent, but I'm knackered with anything close up.

yup although my distance isnt good enough legally without glasses for driving i dont agree as i can read signs and plates ok, but still wear thyem to be safe. i need reading specs tho and another set for pc

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 14:17
I seem to remember Billy Connolly talking about prescription windscreens for cars. That could work.

walpurgis
06-09-2020, 14:24
During the winter months my A-Z in the car is not worth bothering with.

An A-Z is a must for serious drivers. A sat-nav will get you the bulk of the journey, but it's that last half mile they cock up and you find yourself the wrong side of a block or down a little country lane cu-de-sac!

walpurgis
06-09-2020, 14:27
I seem to remember Billy Connolly talking about prescription windscreens for cars. That could work.

Especially if you made it varifocal.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 14:29
An A-Z is a must for serious drivers. A sat-nav will get you the bulk of the journey, but it's that last half mile they cock up and you find yourself the wrong side of a block or down a little country lane cu-de-sac!

I remember Anita's sat nav, in taking us to IKEA, actually put us on a neighbouring industrial estate. Which was fine by me :)

Marco
06-09-2020, 14:31
I bet when Del saw you after collecting her first pair of specs, her reaction was somewhere between :eek: and :eek::eek::eek:

No, that was her reaction when she first unzipped and released my 'python'!:D

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 14:37
No, that was her reaction when she first unzipped and released my 'python'!:D

Marco.

More likely :popcorn:

Marco
06-09-2020, 14:38
I had to wear specs from age 14. Only had the first pair about a week and I got in a fight and they got broken. Parents not happy. After that had to avoid getting in fights. Sport harder too, you can't play footie in specs and you're not much use on the pitch when you can't really see what is going on 30 feet away. Not that I was any good anyway but did enjoy it.

The other disadvantage at that age is it makes you less confident with girls. Although at an all-boys school that wasn't really relevant for me that often. Later you find out the vast majority of women don't care.

I'm short sighted so can see to read and stuff fine. Just with age I now can't read close up with specs on, I have to take them off or look over them. That change did happen very quickly.

Genetic, both parents and one brother short-sighted too. Not much you can do about it.

Yeah, defo, especially the last bit, although you can take some steps when you're very young to protect your eyesight, by not straining your eyes trying to read things in poor light conditions, and just generally eating well and being healthy.

Same applies with your hearing... Even at a young age, I was always protective of my hearing, and so when going to really loud gigs, I'd always put ear plugs in at some point, just to 'give them a rest', and never listened to music loudly on headphones, plus I've been fortunate never to work in excessively noisy environments, all of which can lead to tinnitus.

Consequently, my hearing is as good (probably better) than my eyesight, but that doesn't stop me from getting 'earache' from Del when she WANTS, or DOESN'T want, something!:D

Marco.

walpurgis
06-09-2020, 14:39
I remember Anita's sat nav, in taking us to IKEA, actually put us on a neighbouring industrial estate. Which was fine by me :)

My postcode is in my sat-nav as the home setting, but it always wants to take me the other side of the block.

Marco
06-09-2020, 14:45
Lol - NEVER rely 100% on a sat-nav, as it's almost always guaranteed to end in a tale of woe! Does no-one use maps anymore?:)

On long journeys, to somewhere we've never been before, our default 'guidance system' is still a detailed (up to date road map), as at least you know then generally where you are, because you can SEE it, unlike with many navs, and which make you lazy.

The sat-nav only gets used if we get lost and/or can't find the road sign we're looking for, and get us back on our road, which can be invaluable when driving abroad!:cool:

Marco.

struth
06-09-2020, 15:00
my sat nav in car is very good, plus i have a phone version that can be bluetoothed into it if needed. never got me lost yet

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 15:05
Lol - NEVER rely 100% on a sat-nav, as it's almost always guaranteed to end in a tale of woe! Does no-one use maps anymore?:)

On long journeys, to somewhere we've never been before, our default 'guidance system' is still a detailed (up to date road map), as at least you know then generally where you are, because you can SEE it, unlike with many navs, and which make you lazy.

The sat-nav only gets used if we get lost and/or can't find the road sign we're looking for, and get us back on our road, which can be invaluable when driving abroad!:cool:

Marco.

I bought a touring map of Scotland at the Green Welly Stop, and it was our 'go to' for the whole week. I love maps. If I had my way I'd wallpaper the lounge in Ordnance Surveys, but Anita wouldn't go for it. Women are funny that way :(

Marco
06-09-2020, 15:06
Yup, but it's good to use your brain sometimes too, as accurate map-reading is a skill.

Del's really good at reading them, which is handy with her often being 'co-pilot':)

Marco.

struth
06-09-2020, 15:08
Yup, but it's good to use your brain sometimes too, as accurate map-reading is a skill.

Del's really good at reading them, which is handy with her often being 'co-pilot':)

Marco.

yup if you have a co that can read a map, its handy.. of course when using a sat nav, you have to qualify any turns as 'logical' before making them.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 15:12
Due to a misunderstanding with our respective insurance policies, it turns out I've been using the car uninsured for the last two years! :eek: Eek! :eek: So that got me out of driving duties. I prefer it that way anyway. I like to watch the scenery go by. Especially going thru Glen Coe, and along the old military road to "Rest and be Thankful" :)

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 15:16
yup if you have a co that can read a map, its handy.. of course when using a sat nav, you have to qualify any turns as 'logical' before making them.

Absolutely. Local knowledge trumps Sat Nav every time. Just try using it for a local journey you know well, see what happens.

struth
06-09-2020, 15:18
often have a map set on phone so i can double check if im not sure. also if its complex i print out all the turns and distances etc..

struth
06-09-2020, 15:19
Due to a misunderstanding with our respective insurance policies, it turns out I've been using the car uninsured for the last two years! :eek: Eek! :eek: So that got me out of driving duties. I prefer it that way anyway. I like to watch the scenery go by. Especially going thru Glen Coe, and along the old military road to "Rest and be Thankful" :)

just as well you were not stopped or in an accident...:doh:

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 15:23
just as well you were not stopped or in an accident...:doh:

doesn't bear thinking about Grant - I'm usually pretty hot on these things, this just fell through the net... No harm done, thank God.

Pigmy Pony
06-09-2020, 15:26
On her car insurance now, named driver... cost an extra £6 per month, cheeky sods. Licence been clean for 10 years or so :(

struth
06-09-2020, 15:35
a moral tale :D

‘Life Without Pain Has No Meaning’: Arthur Schopenhauer... ‘If I kill you, I destroy a part of the life force that joins us all together. When someone harms another person it is like a snake biting its tail without knowing that it is sinking its fangs into its own flesh Properly understood, other people aren’t external to me. I care what happens to you because in a way you are part of what we are all part of’.

trouble is perhaps people dont spend long enough understanding others. Schopenhauer certainly didnt practice what he preached, as when an old woman was talking outside his door he pushed her down the stairs. he was forced to pay her monies every month until her death, where he showed no compassion: instead he scribble the joke-rhyme ‘obit anus, abit onus‘ (Latin for ‘the old woman dies, the burden goes’)

struth
06-09-2020, 15:47
On her car insurance now, named driver... cost an extra £6 per month, cheeky sods. Licence been clean for 10 years or so :(

a bit pricey.. good thing about motability, is insurance is taken care of

Roy S
07-09-2020, 02:13
Still outside now, huddled around the log fire we've lit.... Choons pumping outside, loud and proud into the night (via Tidal) good job we haven't got any neighbours!:D

Marco.

Them houses over the back empty then?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200907/6de687b0f5d056f950aeeea3a204e17c.jpg

Marco
07-09-2020, 09:38
Lol no, why do you ask?:)

Marco.

Barry
07-09-2020, 09:51
Haha, I know, believe it or not, that was her husband!:eek: Only one there with grey hair lol. I didn't ask his age, but he's got to at least 20 years older than her. Must have money!:D

Nah, he was nice guy:)



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/xk7YrZ.png

He looks like me. I don't remember being invited - but at my age my memory is not what it was!

Roy S
07-09-2020, 10:02
Just that they look suspiciously like neighbours to me ;)

A new neighbour who I've started chatting with asked me the other day if I was a DJ or something (in the recent hot weather with the conservatory door open he, amongst others, have been treated to my choice of music). Went on to commend my taste :)

Beobloke
07-09-2020, 10:10
My postcode is in my sat-nav as the home setting, but it always wants to take me the other side of the block.

You want to be careful with that. The area where my wife’s sister lives in the USA had a spate of cars being stolen a few years back, then the miscreants would use the car’s Satnav to take them to ‘the programmed ‘home’ location and rob the place.

As a result, her husband changed the ‘home’ location in both their cars to the very large police station that was around a quarter of a mile from them!

walpurgis
07-09-2020, 10:15
You want to be careful with that. The area where my wife’s sister lives in the USA had a spate of cars being stolen a few years back, then the miscreants would use the car’s Satnav to take them to ‘the programmed ‘home’ location and rob the place.

As a result, her husband changed the ‘home’ location in both their cars to the very large police station that was around a quarter of a mile from them!

Well they wouldn't find me, the sat-nav doesn't understand the postcode and goes elsewhere.

It's happened with every sat-nav I've tried.

guy
07-09-2020, 10:16
.......
As a result, her husband changed the ‘home’ location in both their cars to the very large police station that was around a quarter of a mile from them!

Love that idea :)

(I have mine set for a village near to us - definitely not my own address)

Marco
07-09-2020, 10:16
Just that they look suspiciously like neighbours to me ;)


Lol, what the pic doesn't show is that there's a path and a main road between those houses and me, which are probably at least 200 yards away, so I don't class them as neighbours!;)

Nice one on the latter, did you get her number (if it was a 'her'), as it sounds like a come-on?:D

Marco.

Barry
07-09-2020, 10:18
Well they wouldn't find me, the sat-nav doesn't understand the postcode and goes elsewhere.

It's happened with every sat-nav I've tried.

Same here. It gets to within a road away, but it's the wrong road.

Marco
07-09-2020, 10:19
He looks like me. I don't remember being invited - but at my age my memory is not what it was!

Lol - he does a little... Don't really think it would've been your scene though (aside from the food and wine). Loud dance music with a load of youngsters jumping up and down on a bouncy castle and girlies cuddling each other in the wee small hours, when they've had too much to drink...:eyebrows:;)

Marco.

Roy S
07-09-2020, 10:22
Nice one on the latter, did you get her number (if it was a 'her'), as it sounds like a come-on?:D



No, he's a chippy, handy bloke to know actually, he's cleared some shrubs between our properties (got him a crate of lager for doing that) & what his missus has done in their garden has really lifted the neighbourhood.

Pigmy Pony
07-09-2020, 20:34
Well they wouldn't find me, the sat-nav doesn't understand the postcode and goes elsewhere.

It's happened with every sat-nav I've tried.

That's because your postcode is SH17 8AG :D

Marco
07-09-2020, 21:45
No, he's a chippy, handy bloke to know actually, he's cleared some shrubs between our properties (got him a crate of lager for doing that) & what his missus has done in their garden has really lifted the neighbourhood.

Ah, no worries... Nice one:)

For anyone interested, here are some more pics taken from our weekend party:

One of Del's work colleagues and his wife, who's a nurse:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/MHAy1e.jpg

Here's 'Walter Smith' again, or rather 'Barry', looking up and wondering if there was more fun going on indoors.... :D:eyebrows:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/KzyFMj.jpg

Nice little fire we had going on at night, which was much needed as it got chilly!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/t23hkL.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/aslXPO.jpg

Gates to our lodge house:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/nGBKlM.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/3FfWUM.jpg

Some of the booze they brought with them (we also supplied some wine):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/4DedYu.jpg

The birthday boy himself (30 years old):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ZazobS.jpg

Some more of the girlies:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/UvQbQP.jpg

It was a great party, enjoyed by all - and Del says she WANTS to do it again!:doh::D

Marco.

guy
08-09-2020, 18:04
That's because your postcode is SH17 8AG :D

:cool:

Pigmy Pony
09-09-2020, 05:10
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/t23hkL.jpg



Outdoor darkroom, interesting...

Marco
09-09-2020, 09:53
Lol... Just a rather novel idea, I thought, of hanging up old pics of the 'birthday boy', with illuminated pegs, which as you can see at night look quite striking:)

However, the temporary erection of a gazebo, in order to facilitate the party, has made us more determined to have a proper one permanently installed, as it makes for a really nice seating area in the summer.

And there's plenty of room... Even with that and the bouncy castle (which was huge) installed on the lawn, there's was still LOADS of room left for folks to mingle. Don't think I could ever cope without having a large outdoor space to enjoy in the nice weather!:cool:

If the weather is half-decent over Christmas [which often it is, as the really bad weather doesn't usually kick in until January/Feb], we might get the crew round again, and this time just light a bigger fire!:D

Marco.

walpurgis
10-09-2020, 07:33
Pooch goes to the vet tomorrow at 8.30am for surgery to remove two small lumps under her skin. They could potentially be tumours, cancerous or otherwise. You would not believe how much this is going to cost!!

struth
10-09-2020, 07:39
hope it turns out well geoff. sons dog had cancer for several years, before she died recently, so often they can be benign. it can become expensive alas..

Marco
10-09-2020, 07:39
Sorry to hear that, mate. I can imagine the cost, but the most important thing is that he's ok. Hope all goes well:)

Marco.

walpurgis
10-09-2020, 07:48
The dog's lumps are small, so I don't envisage problems after they are excised. It's my usual vet, but prices seem to have grown wildly. The fifteen minute consultation cost me nearly ninety quid, never mind the price of the still to be paid for surgery. No more pets for me after this one, that's for sure.

struth
10-09-2020, 14:37
Apparently Lockdown has caused a major shortage in Glasgow.

A protest march has been organised https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200910/505193bbc3abfaf6a1c15648a669a19d.jpg

Pigmy Pony
10-09-2020, 20:00
Apparently Lockdown has caused a major shortage in Glasgow.

A protest march has been organised https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200910/505193bbc3abfaf6a1c15648a669a19d.jpg

Who's Nae Bucky? And why did he leave?

walpurgis
11-09-2020, 16:24
Pooch goes to the vet tomorrow at 8.30am for surgery to remove two small lumps under her skin. They could potentially be tumours, cancerous or otherwise. You would not believe how much this is going to cost!!

Picked up Coco the mutt around 4pm. She's unsettled and unhappy, hopefully she'll feel less distressed tomorrow. Surgery went OK, wait for pathology results on the removed lumps now.

struth
11-09-2020, 16:25
Picked up Coco the mutt around 4pm. She's unsettled and unhappy, hopefully she'll feel less distressed tomorrow. Surgery went OK, wait for pathology results on the removed lumps now.

she may have felt abandoned.. should settle once she settles again.

guy
11-09-2020, 19:02
Picked up Coco the mutt around 4pm. She's unsettled and unhappy, hopefully she'll feel less distressed tomorrow. Surgery went OK, wait for pathology results on the removed lumps now.

Hope it all goes well.
Made me think of how worried I was when my dog had a lump checked out - such a relief when they said it was just a benign lump (seriously; I laughed because it made we wonder how they had got her character profile from the biopsy )

walpurgis
11-09-2020, 19:17
Yeah, fingers crossed. The vet didn't say they'd found anything that looked worrying, the lumps were pretty small. Turned out they removed three.

Mutt is still a bit out of sorts, but has bucked up a lot from earlier.

guy
15-09-2020, 11:29
:eek: Zoe Ball's salary has risen by £1,000,000 since taking over the radio 2 breakfast show:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54119758

I gave up listening to radio 2 in the morning because of her, she really gets on my tits.

guy
15-09-2020, 11:30
Yeah, fingers crossed. The vet didn't say they'd found anything that looked worrying, the lumps were pretty small. Turned out they removed three.

Mutt is still a bit out of sorts, but has bucked up a lot from earlier.

Any news?

walpurgis
15-09-2020, 11:39
Any news?

She was checked over yesterday afternoon, all healing well. Awaiting lab results and another vet visit for removal of stitches in a couple of weeks. Coco's back to her usual cheeky self now! :)

Macca
15-09-2020, 11:41
:eek: Zoe Ball's salary has risen by £1,000,000 since taking over the radio 2 breakfast show:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54119758

I gave up listening to radio 2 in the morning because of her, she really gets on my tits.

Yes me too, she's almost as bad as the one who does the drivetime show. Thankfully now commuting is a thing of the past I don't have to listen to either of them.

Macca
15-09-2020, 11:43
'The top 10 earners are still all white.'

You'd think on their salaries they could afford a foreign holiday. Or at least a sunbed.

Marco
15-09-2020, 11:55
There are only four presenters worth listening to on Radio 2: Jeremy Vine, Bob Harris (as, music-wise he's the closest we've got now to John Peel), Steve Wright and Trevor Nelson. The rest are anodyne cardboard cutouts!

Personally, as bad as it can be, if I'm in the car and listening to the radio instead of CD, then I prefer having Radio 1 on, as occasionally it throws up a few gems, in terms of new music, as unlike some folk here (lol) I like discovering new music, especially the best of the young new indie bands.

The problem with R2, and it has many problems, is that you never (or rarely) hear any new music... And the station hasn't had a decent presenter for the breakfast show since the departure of Chris Evans... As much as he can be an annoying PITA, at least he had a PERSONALITY!!

Marco.

Beobloke
15-09-2020, 12:11
There are only four presenters worth listening to on Radio 2: Jeremy Vine, Bob Harris (as, music-wise he's the closest we've got now to John Peel), Steve Wright and Trevor Nelson.

Jesus - no, surely not! Yes on Bob Harris and Trevor Nelson but Jeremy Vine is just an annoying cretin who seems to think it's amusing to pretend he doesn't know anything about the subject under discussion just to get arise out of his (largely idiot) callers. As for Steve Wright, he's still doing the same scripted, pathetic show he has been for the last thirty years and he should have been put out to pasture long ago. Anyone who stands in for him makes the show far better, IMHO. I'd love someone like Craig Charles to take over his slot permanently.

Frankly the only people I consider worth listening to on Radio 2 these days, in addition to Bob Harris and Trevor Nelson, are Ken Bruce, Jo Whiley and Johnny Walker. I don't actually mind Sara Cox, with the exception of the predictable 1980s Heart Radio-style music she plays. Don't get me started on Zoe Ball or that cretin Rylan...

I genuinely cannot believe it, but I spend more time listening to Radio 1 these days, and I didn't expect to be doing that after Chris Moyles left!

Macca
15-09-2020, 12:37
Sara Cox, that was the other one. Boring as anything.

If they just paid the presenters £30K a year instead of 2 million a year then they could afford the royalties to play music all the time, the presenter could just cut in occasionally to introduce the song, do the news or tell you the time. You don't need any special skills to do that.

Surely the whole purpose of listening to the radio is to hear music? Not some idiot presenter waffling on about nothing or Joe Punter calling in to tell us he's driving down to Worthing for a birthday party. Nobody cares!

guy
15-09-2020, 16:07
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If they just paid the presenters £30K a year instead of 2 million a year then they could afford the royalties to play music all the time, the presenter could just cut in occasionally to introduce the song, do the news or tell you the time. You don't need any special skills to do that.
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Or put the money saved towards keeping no licence fee for OAP's, rather than whinging on about how broke they are.

(I quite like Sarah Cox though and think that they would have been better getting Lisa Tarbuck on the morning slot - as long as she could get up in time. Steve wright also gets on my tits, doesn't have ask Elvis anymore which was the highlight of his show for me :))

Pigmy Pony
15-09-2020, 21:35
[QUOTE=Macca;1221544].........
If they just paid the presenters £30K a year instead of 2 million a year then they could afford the royalties to play music all the time, the presenter could just cut in occasionally to introduce the song, do the news or tell you the time. You don't need any special skills to do that.
.......
/QUOTE]

Or put the money saved towards keeping no licence fee for OAP's, rather than whinging on about how broke they are.

I quite like Sarah Cox though and think that they would have been better getting Lisa Tarbuck on the morning slot - as long as she could get up in time. Steve wright also gets on my tits, doesn't have ask Elvis anymore which was the highlight of his show for me :))

I think R2 presenters (like any other employees) do as their told. Sara Cox used to be really good imo, when she was able to talk about important topics like her back fat, and running out of bog roll and having to "dab her flower" with a postage stamp size bit. Things change, and not usually for the better. Lauren Laverne used to have a great North east accent which I could listen to all day, all but gone now :(

Ask Elvis was great, he should have had the breakfast spot :)

Beobloke
15-09-2020, 22:08
God, no, can’t stand Liza bloody Tarbuck either.

And I must confess, I used to crack up at Ask Elvis...

Marco
16-09-2020, 07:08
Jesus - no, surely not! Yes on Bob Harris and Trevor Nelson but Jeremy Vine is just an annoying cretin who seems to think it's amusing to pretend he doesn't know anything about the subject under discussion just to get arise out of his (largely idiot) callers. As for Steve Wright, he's still doing the same scripted, pathetic show he has been for the last thirty years and he should have been put out to pasture long ago. Anyone who stands in for him makes the show far better, IMHO. I'd love someone like Craig Charles to take over his slot permanently.

Frankly the only people I consider worth listening to on Radio 2 these days, in addition to Bob Harris and Trevor Nelson, are Ken Bruce, Jo Whiley and Johnny Walker. I don't actually mind Sara Cox, with the exception of the predictable 1980s Heart Radio-style music she plays. Don't get me started on Zoe Ball or that cretin Rylan...

I genuinely cannot believe it, but I spend more time listening to Radio 1 these days, and I didn't expect to be doing that after Chris Moyles left!

Lol.... Don't have much of a view on Sara Likesacock [bit of a twittering empty-headed bimbo, IMO], so not my type at all. Annie Nightingale was far more interesting. I quite like Jeremy Vine, as I also watch him on 'Eggheads'. I take your point about him, but for me he's just a good presenter, and I enjoy some of the discussions on his show.

And Steve Wright I like for reasons of nostalgia, as I grew up with him in the late 70s and 80s, with 'Mr Angry' and 'The Newsagesnt', etc. Ken Bruce is a nice guy, but a bit boring, ditto Johnny Walker. I'd also throw in Tony Blackburn too, for nostalgia reasons. Good shout on Craig Charles, yup forgot about him. I'd like to see him being given a more prominent spot - possibly the breakfast show, as he can funny, and you need something to lift you first thing in the morning on the way to work - I hate BLAND!:)

Lisa Tarbuck? Aw gawd, no. She's worse than Cox and has a truly dreadful taste in music! R1 is worth listening to, for reasons specified, and also for not simply sitting back and becoming an old man - nothing makes you (mentally) older quicker, than when never receiving any stimulation from younger people and gaining some kind of insight into what's happening NOW, not just in the past!;)

Marco.

Macca
16-09-2020, 11:55
Monkey News:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-reunited-with-lost-phone-full-of-monkey-selfies/ar-BB195UvM?ocid=msedgdhp

Marco
16-09-2020, 16:46
Lol, weird fucker!:D

Marco.

Marco
16-09-2020, 16:50
In other news, Del's just bought a pair of these: https://www.crocs.co.uk/p/womens-crocs-classic-bae-clog/206302.html?cgid=women-footwear&cid=6QQ#start=28
:doh:

Typical!:D

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 16:50
my good neighbour is going to abandon ship too... im going to be the last of the mohicans:doh: end of the rd.

struth
16-09-2020, 16:51
In other news, Del's just bought a pair of these: https://www.crocs.co.uk/p/womens-crocs-classic-bae-clog/206302.html?cgid=women-footwear&cid=6QQ#start=28
:doh:

Typical!:D

Marco.

not much to beat crocs for comfort and durability.. my grandkids think mine are cool:ner:

walpurgis
16-09-2020, 16:54
my good neighbour is going to abandon ship too... im going to be the last of the mohicans:doh: end of the rd.

Try living here mate. It's like a war zone! :eek:

Marco
16-09-2020, 16:59
not much to beat crocs for comfort and durability.. my grandkids think mine are cool:ner:

Lol, I know. Not for me, but Del loves slipping her feet into them after being in heels at work, as she finds them really comfy! Trust her to pick pink, though... What do you think?:whistle:

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 17:05
very girly, yup.. she will suit them. ive 3 pairs. easy to wear and warm too. ive lots of shoes, but they are my go to

struth
16-09-2020, 17:11
Try living here mate. It's like a war zone! :eek:

yeah, its just that it isolates me completely when they go. means my garden wont get any work either so i might get forced out. the association that has the house is seling out to big boys through west so sure they will make life difficult

oh well.. save the bathgate one:D

guy
16-09-2020, 17:13
In other news, Del's just bought a pair of these: https://www.crocs.co.uk/p/classic-tie-dye-lined-clog/206341.html?cid=6RW&adid=banner_UK_rt_criteo

:doh:

Typical!:D

Marco.

:eek:

struth
16-09-2020, 17:21
this is just too much.. ive a hair growing out of the edge of my ear... that happens to old duffers on still game:steam:

Marco
16-09-2020, 17:24
very girly, yup.. she will suit them. ive 3 pairs. easy to wear and warm too. ive lots of shoes, but they are my go to

Lol yeah, they are very 'her'... Warm will be handy in the winter, as tends to wear indoor shoes with bare feet, or thin tights, if she just slips them on as soon as she comes in from work. She has lots of shoes, too... Do you think you have more?:eek:

Marco.

Marco
16-09-2020, 17:26
:eek:

Haha - is that an 'approve' or 'disapprove' smiley?:D

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 17:28
greek govt gave out face masks to school kids.. just one issue

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh4Mwz3XYAEMt5r?format=jpg&name=small

were a tad big ...:eyebrows:

struth
16-09-2020, 17:30
Lol yeah, they are very 'her'... Warm will be handy in the winter, as tends to wear indoor shoes with bare feet, or thin tights, if she just slips them on as soon as she comes in from work. She has lots of shoes, too... Do you think you have more?:eek:

Marco.

probably not, no. but i have quite a few pairs.. most i cant wear as my feet collaPSED JUST AFTER I BOUGHT A FEW..:doh: IM HOPING THEY CHANGE BUT NOT SO SURE NOW.

still got loads of the wife's too.. need to shift them but cant find motivation.

Marco
16-09-2020, 17:42
What do you mean your feet have collapsed? That sounds painful, mate... Are any of your wife's shoes in good nick, and/or you think would suit Del? What size feet was she?

Lol, yeah - she's a typical girly, so LOVES shoes and has plenty! She sent me a 'Want these' email earlier for some trainers: https://www.converse.com/uk/en/regular/women%27s-seasonal-colour-platform-chuck-taylor-all-star-low-top/566756C.html

Apparently trainers are fashionable now to wear with skirts and dresses, and she wants some. I always thought trainers were for wearing with the likes of jeans, but hey what do I know!:whistle:

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 17:48
no, trainer, well that type are fine with dresses. especially long frillies.. were worn in the 50's with some success;)

arches collapsed and feet spread a lot. changed the shape and arch etc. so most of my shoes now dont fit. im trying to stretch some slowly to see if i can get into them.

old age doesnt come lightly for some of us.. teach me for working too bloody hard etc.. still ive a couple of pairs im still ok with so not completely screwed

Marco
16-09-2020, 17:55
no, trainer, well that type are fine with dresses. especially long frillies.. were worn in the 50's with some success;)

arches collapsed and feet spread a lot. changed the shape and arch etc. so most of my shoes now dont fit. im trying to stretch some slowly to see if i can get into them.

old age doesnt come lightly for some of us.. teach me for working too bloody hard etc.. still ive a couple of pairs im still ok with so not completely screwed

That's a nightmare, mate. Nothing worse than bad feet, as you're on them for a large part of the day. Sorry to hear that. Nothing a chiropodist could sort?

Yeah, I guess those trainers could look quite cute with her dresses, but they wouldn't be long, because as you know she's tiny and doesn't suit long dresses, so they'd be mini or knee-length ones, mostly in pastel colours, and of course pink!

Del likes 'vintage shoes' too, so if any of your wife's are in that style and new or hardly worn, she might be interested. She's a size 4. If your wife was the same, then she could try them on when we pop up next:)

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 17:59
This sort of idea
It's very popular and cutehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200916/3919ad9afe64250c264c60c328fd1b01.jpg

Marco
16-09-2020, 18:11
Yeah exactly like that, with bare legs and no socks, which again is apparently the fashion. I agree it's a cute look. She normally wears tights with dresses and skirts (with normal flats or heels), but seemingly it's different story with trainers in the equation! :eek:

I suggested otherwise [just to wear her normal very thin skin-colour ones] and she said NOoooooooo, most emphatically, tutted and laughed out loud! Good job I'm not a women's fashion consultant!!:lol:

Marco.

guy
16-09-2020, 18:31
Haha - is that an 'approve' or 'disapprove' smiley?:D

Marco.

Just what goes through my mind when my wife, or daughters, buy something that I don't understand :). (does that make sense?)

guy
16-09-2020, 18:35
Now some of these I do like (not for me, my wife you understand!):

https://embassylondon.co.uk/collections/womens

Marco
16-09-2020, 18:38
Just what goes through my mind when my wife, or daughters, buy something that I don't understand :). (does that make sense?)

I know that feeling mate, and the lack of 'understanding'! It kicks in most during the odd occasions I'm there when she's underwear shopping:eek:

That's why she generally prefers doing it on her own or with her mates:)

Marco.

Marco
16-09-2020, 18:42
Now some of these I do like (not for me, my wife you understand!):

https://embassylondon.co.uk/collections/womens

Yeah some of those are kinda cool:)

I know you normally trot around in your sling-backs:D;)

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 18:53
Yeah exactly like that, with bare legs and no socks, which again is apparently the fashion. I agree it's a cute look. She normally wears tights with dresses and skirts (with normal flats or heels), but seemingly it's different story with trainers in the equation! :eek:

I suggested otherwise [just to wear her normal very thin skin-colour ones] and she said NOoooooooo, most emphatically, tutted and laughed out loud! Good job I'm not a women's fashion consultant!![emoji38]

Marco.Trainers it's sock liners or ankles. Del is with it. Trust her, she knows. Your a fuddy duddy [emoji23]

Marco
16-09-2020, 19:10
Trainers it's sock liners or ankles. Del is with it. Trust her, she knows. Your a fuddy duddy [emoji23]

Haha... Not really a fuddy-duddy, just have to remember that she's younger. By sock liners, did you mean trainer socks? I've seen her wear those before, but seemingly with trainers bare feet is the 'thing' (no socks). Socks are considered as 'wrong'.

Marco.

struth
16-09-2020, 19:28
Depends on person and trainers really. Some come with liners. There are half ankles, ankles and if a really short skirt is worn, I've seen long ones worn successfully.
But it's ultimately a personal choice and as much how good legs you have.
Good that she still likes to look young. That's the spirit.

guy
16-09-2020, 19:42
Surely it's got to be trainer socks (the ones that fall below the line of the shoe), just gets a bit sweaty/uncomfortable without anything imo.

Marco
16-09-2020, 19:45
Depends on person and trainers really. Some come with liners. There are half ankles, ankles and if a really short skirt is worn, I've seen long ones worn successfully.
But it's ultimately a personal choice and as much how good legs you have.
Good that she still likes to look young. That's the spirit.

Yups, plus she also looks younger than she is [and as you know acts like it, too]. Her teenage girl students think that she's still in her 30s, and she refuses to spoil their illusion!:D

Lol... They do often comment though on her 'cool style' and that they'd like to dress like her when they grow up!:eyebrows:

But yes, with being small and slim (decent legs too, yeah I'd better say that:lol:), she doesn't mind showing them off.

Marco.

Marco
16-09-2020, 19:55
Surely it's got to be trainer socks (the ones that fall below the line of the shoe), just gets a bit sweaty/uncomfortable without anything imo.

That's what I said, but apparently it's not a consideration. Plus, let's just say she's not a fan of wearing footwear unless she really *needs* to, so the trainers will be kicked off at the first opportunity!

Marco.

Firebottle
17-09-2020, 07:22
But yes, with being small and slim (decent legs too, yeah I'd better say that:lol:)

:worthless:

You can always pm. :)

Marco
17-09-2020, 08:20
Lol - you should've been at that party we had recently!:eek::D

Especially as the night wore on into the wee small hours, and the girlies started to, erm, relax their inhibitions...:eyebrows:

Marco.

Macca
19-09-2020, 10:19
What's this all about? Cleaned out the fridge last week, needed doing. When I finished it was absolutely spotless, looked like brand new.

Just gone in there to get the milk out and there's a big stain right on the bottom where that glass thing goes that you keep lettuce in and that.

All that has been in the fridge since I cleaned it is a couple of pints of milk, half a pound of butter which is unused and still wrapped, a block of cheese which is wrapped in clingfilm and inside a plastic bag, and a steak that was also double wrapped and only in there for a couple of hours before I ate it. So where can this big stain suddenly appear from? It's bullshit.

struth
19-09-2020, 10:29
maybe didnt kill all mould. in a cool damp fridge it can regrow worse..

Macca
19-09-2020, 10:41
maybe didnt kill all mould. in a cool damp fridge it can regrow worse..

I don't think it is mould. It's yellow, like spilt vanilla ice cream that's melted a bit. Can mould be yellow?

struth
19-09-2020, 10:46
sounds like spilt milk tbh..

WullieD20
19-09-2020, 11:16
Sounds like your condensate drain may be blocked..... Takes the condensation from the back plate of the fridge out to a reservoir above the motor to evaporate off.
If the small drain in the collector tray at the bottom of the fridge is blocked (usually with food products!), the resultant condensation will collect in the bottom of the fridge...:D

Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt.....:doh:

Bought a brand new fridge for an elderly neighbour years ago who had the same problem within a few weeks.... On inspection, discovered that the hole in the bottom of the collection tray hadn't been punched out at the manufacturing stage!!! Same result though....

Macca
19-09-2020, 11:17
Well, no use crying over it. :D Just don't see how I could have spilt milk on the bottom of the fridge.

I'll clean it up and see if it re-appears. Maybe next time the face of Jesus will be visible in it.

Macca
19-09-2020, 11:18
Sounds like your condensate drain may be blocked..... Takes the condensation from the back plate of the fridge out to a reservoir above the motor to evaporate off.
If the small drain in the collector tray at the bottom of the fridge is blocked (usually with food products!), the resultant condensation will collect in the bottom of the fridge...:D

Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt.....:doh:

I have enough trouble with hi-fi equipment without the 'fridge hassling me as well. There is some sort of drain plug, I'll have a fiddle with that.

WullieD20
19-09-2020, 11:24
I have enough trouble with hi-fi equipment without the 'fridge hassling me as well. There is some sort of drain plug, I'll have a fiddle with that.

Look for this....28616

Swann36
19-09-2020, 11:42
You are right its always important to keep any drain holes well cleaned out ...if you fancy rather more work have a look at the back of the fridge the drain hole will lead to a tube ...

Macca
19-09-2020, 12:50
Found the drain hole but what now? Does it come out? I did think about getting a screwdriver in there but I don't want to break it.

WullieD20
19-09-2020, 13:59
Found the drain hole but what now? Does it come out? I did think about getting a screwdriver in there but I don't want to break it.

Usually clear it with a cocktail stick or the narrow end of a cable tie (or anything softish). Try pulling any debris out, rather than pushing it through if you can. But eventually just be sure that the hole is clear to drain away.

Macca
19-09-2020, 14:08
okay will do, thanks for the tip. Have to admit I never recall my parents having to muck about with the fridge, maybe they did it when I wasn't there...

I want your speakers btw.

walpurgis
19-09-2020, 14:16
Pipecleaners.

WullieD20
19-09-2020, 14:22
Have to admit I never recall my parents having to muck about with the fridge, maybe they did it when I wasn't there...


Can you recall sitting watching your mother cleaning the fridge? . . ha ha... Neither can I, not regarding the drain hole, anyway.... :D


I want your speakers btw.

LOL. . . many do... :lol:

Geoff's idea of pipecleaner may work, but you'll maybe push the debris further down the drain tube.....okay if you're satisfied that it's completely clear to the end.

Macca
19-09-2020, 16:19
No I don't ever recall the fridge being defrosted, cleaned, drained or anything. I recall my mother doing washing, ironing and hoovering up, but not cleaning the fridge. I think they only had 2 fridges in the 18 years I lived there. They had a new kitchen in about 1982 so the fridge changed once in almost two decades.

The freezer is still going now and that dates from about 1976. Don't recall that ever being defrosted either.

Pigmy Pony
19-09-2020, 16:51
Found the drain hole but what now? Does it come out? I did think about getting a screwdriver in there but I don't want to break it.

I once tried to clear the ice from my chest freezer by hacking at it with a chisel. Worked a treat - after a brief hissing sound the freezer defrosted itself :)

guy
19-09-2020, 20:51
pull the fridge out from the wall - the drain pipe will exit in to a tray which sits on top of the compressor (heat from compressor is supposed to evaporate the fridge condensate and that tray can get disgusting).
I have use a long wire and a spray cleaner from inside the fridge to clear the drain pipe on our fridge, it can be quite worrying what grows there :eek:

guy
20-09-2020, 11:34
Walking the dog this morning past a field of "pulled" onions (laying out to dry before collection?) - the smell immediately took me back to my youth and a brand of cheese and onion crisps called "Chipmunk" (I think), is it rose tinted spectacles or are modern crisps crap in comparison?

walpurgis
20-09-2020, 11:43
We should have a thread on 'evocative smells'.

Anybody remember the odour of Castrol R emanating from sportier motorbikes yonks ago?

(never been too sure how long a yonk is :))

Ian7633
20-09-2020, 13:57
We should have a thread on 'evocative smells'.

Anybody remember the odour of Castrol R emanating from sportier motorbikes yonks ago?

(never been too sure how long a yonk is :))

I used to be really into hot rod racing on quarter mile oval circuits. The smell of Castrol R was intoxicating.

Pigmy Pony
20-09-2020, 15:15
Walking the dog this morning past a field of "pulled" onions (laying out to dry before collection?) - the smell immediately took me back to my youth and a brand of cheese and onion crisps called "Chipmunk" (I think), is it rose tinted spectacles or are modern crisps crap in comparison?

:eek: Ooh no, I couldn't be doing with that - if that smell was at the bottom of my garden, I'd have to move house. That's how much I love the smell of onions. Agree about modern crisps being crap though. They probably don't use lard any more :(

Pigmy Pony
20-09-2020, 15:21
We should have a thread on 'evocative smells'.

Anybody remember the odour of Castrol R emanating from sportier motorbikes yonks ago?

(never been too sure how long a yonk is :))

Four donkeys to a yonk.

That old 2-stroke smell is my favourite of all. I once followed a scooter club outing from devil's bridge all the way back to Lancaster, just so I could bask in their smoky oily wake. Mrs. P didn't share my enthusiasm, having no such nostalgia, so she just tore past em and then waited for me further down the road.

walpurgis
20-09-2020, 15:52
That old 2-stroke smell is my favourite of all.

That's the thing though, "old 2-stroke smell". Modern two stroke oil smells horrible, as of course does the modern petrol it's used with (and I use the word petrol loosely, 'cos it ain't).

Macca
20-09-2020, 15:57
What about the smell of napalm in the morning?

struth
20-09-2020, 16:07
What about the smell of napalm in the morning?

without the lead, its not the same..;) interesting that lead managed to get accepted as an additive as it was known from roman times to be dangerous... i guess the blame lies in the environmental Kuznets curve.

Macca
20-09-2020, 19:33
The building I used to work in had a stairwell that would have a different evocative smell almost every day. Various smells that would rotate.

One day it might smell like a corridor in an fancy American hotel. If you've stayed in one you know that smell. The next day it would smell like the school my mother taught at in the 1970s. Chalk and disinfectant. Then it would smell like rain on warm concrete. Some days there was no smell at all. I've never been able to account for this.

Barry
20-09-2020, 21:03
To Martin

As you are now working from home, and are likely to be doing so for the forseeable future, has your company placed any requirements on you as regards 'working conditions'? I ask as I have heard some companies are stipulating the same working conditions as would be in place in the office, be applied to working at home. In particular that when at your home desk computer you are not allowed to smoke. What's that all about? Surely it's a case of "my home, my rules". Knowing you to be a smoker what are your thoughts on the matter?

Macca
21-09-2020, 07:59
To Martin

As you are now working from home, and are likely to be doing so for the forseeable future, has your company placed any requirements on you as regards 'working conditions'? I ask as I have heard some companies are stipulating the same working conditions as would be in place in the office, be applied to working at home. In particular that when at your home desk computer you are not allowed to smoke. What's that all about? Surely it's a case of "my home, my rules". Knowing you to be a smoker what are your thoughts on the matter?

It's never been mentioned. But obviously I would ignore any such restrictions, aside from the fact that they would be un-enforceable, both legally and practically.

Barry
21-09-2020, 13:03
It's never been mentioned. But obviously I would ignore any such restrictions, aside from the fact that they would be un-enforceable, both legally and practically.

I was incorrect in stating "some companies" want to stipulate working-at-home conditions. At the moment it is just Hammersmith and Fulham council who are want to introduce a smoking ban when at a computer whilst working at home.

Agree it is un-enforceable, and if wasn't then by rightsyou ought to be able to charge them for the extra heating you have to use on their behalf. :D

struth
24-09-2020, 16:12
Wgat is it with some folk and bog roll? I mean, emptying a store in minutes and going out with 100 rolls or more. It's Moronic.
Shitty people https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200924/64906ced844046b97984a7adfa168e9e.jpg

walpurgis
24-09-2020, 16:25
It's Leicester. Speaks for itself really.

Pigmy Pony
24-09-2020, 18:47
No good showing us a picture of the empty shelves. We want to see pics of the spazwits responsible :steam:

Marco
24-09-2020, 19:24
It's the idiot store staff/management who ALLOW the morons to buy it in the first place that are mostly to blame!:doh:

Firstly, as this nonsense 'panic buying' is starting to take off again, even though there will be NO national lock down and there *is* NO food shortage, nor will there be (same as last time), every supermarket should've introduced a maximum purchase quantity on all 'essentials'.

Secondly, if it were me in charge of a store, I'd not only strictly enforce the above rule, but SHAME the selfish, brain-dead fuckers at the till points, by LAUGHING at how pathetic they are and watching them SQUIRM, then have security kick them out on their ass!!:lol:

The satisfaction gained would be beyond immense.

Marco.

guy
24-09-2020, 21:12
Oh well, back to hanging my arse over the bath and using the shower extension again.

If my downstairs toilet was bigger I would have a bidet installed, or perhaps I should go for one of these:

https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/metro-smart-toilet-with-bidet-wash-function-heated-seat-dryer

future proof my house for when I get older and not have to worry about queues for bog roll

Barry
24-09-2020, 22:24
Oh well, back to hanging my arse over the bath and using the shower extension again.

If my downstairs toilet was bigger I would have a bidet installed, or perhaps I should go for one of these:

https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/metro-smart-toilet-with-bidet-wash-function-heated-seat-dryer



future proof my house for when I get older and not have to worry about queues for bog roll

I first came across toilets like that in Japan. The Japanese go for that sort of thing.

The first thing I disabled was the seat heating - horrible; just like someone has used it immediately before you. The bidet function is fine - if you like to have a jet of water squirted up your backside.

guy
24-09-2020, 22:50
Not sure about the heated seat myself - I always find heated seats in cars feel rather strange at first.

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 08:25
I see the panic buying has taken a grip. Times for booking of available grocery home delivery slots have stretched out considerably, from a day or so to weeks now, if you can find one. It varies from one supplier to another and no doubt there will be regional differences.

Good job I saw this coming (again) and have always maintained a decent stock of essentials. Something I have habitually done and not prompted by the beginnings of the Covid scare in February.

Macca
26-09-2020, 08:48
I never had any problem getting stuff in the last 'panic buying' spree. The corner shop never ran out of bog roll or anything else. It's just the panic-buying people don't go there because they don't want to pay a few extra pence compared to the supermarket price.

All blown out of proportion by the media and then that sets more idiots off out to panic-buy. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Macca
26-09-2020, 08:51
If I had a big surplus of something I'd just get a story placed in the media about how there is a shortage of it. Hey presto not only are people climbing over each other to get to it, they're happy to pay a ludicrous premium for it too.

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 09:01
I drove past the local Tesco yesterday and the car park was jammed and people were queuing to get in. The only time that is seen here is normally xmas eve.

Think I'll start growing my own stuff. Now where can I get a toilet roll tree? :D

Macca
26-09-2020, 09:07
Last time I went to the supermarket was back in March. I don't miss it one bit.

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 09:12
Last time I went to the supermarket was back in March. I don't miss it one bit.

Not been since January. I wasn't well enough in February and have felt no desire to go since. I've probably saved a fortune not making impulse buys (mind you, there's always ebay :)).

struth
26-09-2020, 09:20
this is the type of thing that caused shortage chaos back in the 70's...

https://priceonomics.com/the-great-toilet-paper-scare-of-1973/

of course joe public fell for the "so called" truth like a shot, and caused a shortage... the reporting now is doing the same thing... say you have plenty stock really means get it while you can folks.

I might add my maw bought izal, and there was no shortage of that..it was like wiping your arse with a brick!!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/ca/49/09ca49da8c3433c6fc6af7336a994f50.jpg

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 09:28
I have a large delivery coming from Tesco tomorrow. Nothing to do with panic buying though, the order was placed nearly three weeks ago.

struth
26-09-2020, 09:32
I have a large delivery coming from Tesco tomorrow. Nothing to do with panic buying though, the order was placed nearly three weeks ago.

panicker :ner:

just checked tesco stock of bog roll for sons order on tuesday. 80% sold out so he has no chance. should be 1 packet of 9 or 2 of 4, tops.
they must have realised this would happen.. i mean, muchof the public are gullable fools... wives send hubby to get 100 rolls, as she aint using the sun, (digital copy):eyebrows:

Macca
26-09-2020, 09:35
Not been since January. I wasn't well enough in February and have felt no desire to go since. I've probably saved a fortune not making impulse buys (mind you, there's always ebay :)).

You're still getting deliveries from them though. That's cheating.

If I can't get it in the corner shop or the market then I don't have it.

Marco
26-09-2020, 09:40
i mean, muchof the public are gullable fools... wives send hubby to get 100 rolls, as she aint using the sun, (digital copy):eyebrows:

Totally agree on the first bit, and frankly it's more sad than funny, but I'm afraid you'll have to educate me on the concept of being 'sent out by the wife' to get stuff, as it's alien to me, other than when Del tells me she 'WANTS chips', at 10pm at night, and I've got to find somewhere still open that sells decent ones!:doh:

Oh, and after hearing about all this panic-buying pish, I wasn't sure what to expect when we went shopping yesterday in Lidl... I needn't have worried (as I've found shoppers here in general are a bit more sensible and considerate), as there was ZERO shortage of anything, including bog rolls!

So we stocked up on some Cushelle, which is the only thing Del with grace her bottom with.

Marco.

Marco
26-09-2020, 09:49
You're still getting deliveries from them though. That's cheating.

If I can't get it in the corner shop or the market then I don't have it.

I know... Geoff, you need to haul your ass back out into the big bad world again mate, otherwise you'll forget what it looks like!:D

What's that now - 6 or 7 months you've been cooped up inside like a prisoner? How can you flash all the local women with your 'special jacket' - they'll be missing the thrill!:flasher::eyebrows:

Marco.

Macca
26-09-2020, 09:52
I know... Geoff, you need to haul your ass back out into the big bad world again mate, otherwise you'll forget what it looks like!:D

What's that now - 6 or 7 months you've been cooped up inside like a prisoner? How can you flash all the local women with your 'special jacket' - they'll be missing the thrill!:flasher::eyebrows:

Marco.

He still gets out to walk the dog and that. Probably gets out more than me.

Marco
26-09-2020, 10:04
Lol - that's saying something then, daftee, as you're nearly 20 years younger, so stop acting like an old recluse!:ner:;)

Marco.

struth
26-09-2020, 10:10
Nowt wrong with reclusing..Anchorites well well thought of:eyebrows:

Marco
26-09-2020, 10:15
Anchorites - wot be those?:scratch:

Marco.

Macca
26-09-2020, 10:23
Lol - that's saying something then, daftee, as you're nearly 20 years younger, so stop acting like an old recluse!:ner:;)

Marco.

Where is there to go?

struth
26-09-2020, 10:24
Anchorites - wot be those?:scratch:

Marco.

Hermits... but not of the Herman variety

Macca
26-09-2020, 10:29
Or the crustacean variety.

Macca
26-09-2020, 10:31
Remember reading about the ascetic recluses back in school. Going to live in a cave and meditate, well away from people, for like 30 years.

At the time it seemed bizarre to me. Now I think, 'What a fucking good idea.'

Marco
26-09-2020, 10:49
Where is there to go?

Meet your friends, go out for a drink, take the train into Liverpool, have a walk down by the docks (get some FRESH AIR in yer lungs), visit yer mammy - woteva! There's currently no national lockdown. or correct me if I'm wrong, even a local one in your area.

For us, the whole of North Wales is still open, including Chester, so we're functioning completely as normal (apart from having to wear a fooking face covering in shops). I simply couldn't function being cooped up inside within the same four walls. day after day - too used to the garden and getting out and about.

My dad and I went for a lovely pub lunch the other day - yes LIFE still exists!:ner:;)

Marco.

Marco
26-09-2020, 10:50
Hermits... but not of the Herman variety

Not heard of that - that's a new one on me:)

Marco.

struth
26-09-2020, 11:00
Remember reading about the ascetic recluses back in school. Going to live in a cave and meditate, well away from people, for like 30 years.

At the time it seemed bizarre to me. Now I think, 'What a fucking good idea.'

suppose you can use ascetic and recluse together.... yes its got its good points. A nice cave with some running water, and an interweb connection and lekky:eyebrows:

Macca
26-09-2020, 11:05
Meet your friends, go out for a drink, take the train into Liverpool, have a walk down by the docks (get some FRESH AIR in yer lungs), visit yer mammy - woteva! There's currently no national lockdown. or correct me if I'm wrong, even a local one in your area.

For us, the whole of North Wales is still open, including Chester, so we're functioning completely as normal (apart from having to wear a fooking face covering in shops). I simply couldn't function being cooped up inside within the same four walls. day after day - too used to the garden and getting out and about.

My dad and I went for a lovely pub lunch the other day - yes LIFE still exists!:ner:;)

Marco.

I tried to avoid doing most of those even before Covid! ;)

Did visit a friend a few weeks ago, and had a few visit me. Went up Liverpool in June. There's no-where near me that does a 'lovely' pub lunch. It's a two mile walk to get somewhere even half-decent for that. If you want a decent steak that's 7 miles away.

I've always regarded any need to leave the house as either an absolute necessity or a failure of planning.

struth
26-09-2020, 11:12
i dont have to got out for stuff. thats what delivery vans are for. ordered some beer the other day, and some dried fruits and veg etc. they will appear sometime along with my pasta meals(today hopefully) and frozen stuff next week. why sould i go and take another mans job eh;)

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 11:20
He still gets out to walk the dog and that. Probably gets out more than me.

Just been out for a mooch with the pooch as it happens, I'll go again later.

There really isn't much else to do here. I suppose I could chance a walk along the shops and count the dollops of spit on the deck or piss stains up the walls. You get a lot of that around here, filthy scumbags!

struth
26-09-2020, 11:29
i dont have to got out for stuff. thats what delivery vans are for. ordered some beer the other day, and some dried fruits and veg etc. they will appear sometime along with my pasta meals(today hopefully) and frozen stuff next week. why sould i go and take another mans job eh;)Talk of the devil..

4 quality pasta meals that are easy to make up.
Will freeze a couplehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/094affe3628da6a5d8c668fe8f874a7b.jpg

struth
26-09-2020, 11:53
checking supplies there, im pretty well stocked on essentials etc. Both freezers are near full as is fridge.. ive enough flour, yeast and things for baking etc to last 6 months. enough cleaning stuff etc so im ok up to a point if it gets dodgy again. My area has been in a watchlist, as has the whole region, although im guessing the unis and colleges being back has caused much of the increases. my friend at hospital says its been getting a bit busier there too.

Had my son round yesterday for a coffee. he came round on his mobility scooter:)

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 12:05
Had my son round yesterday for a coffee. he came round on his mobility scooter:)

Bet you have races :).

struth
26-09-2020, 12:10
Bet you have races :).

should be a tie as they are the same machine although his has a bigger battery so it might be like the duracel ad:doh:

Macca
26-09-2020, 12:14
Plant some big mushrooms in the garden to race around and it'll be just like Super Mario Kart.

Roy S
26-09-2020, 12:18
There really isn't much else to do here. I suppose I could chance a walk along the shops and count the dollops of spit on the deck or piss stains up the walls. You get a lot of that around here, filthy scumbags!

Did a favour for a friend who works in street cleaning by doing a fly tipping patrol round my estate, sorry to say it was quite successful :rolleyes:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50385550171_4f19a71a4d_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50385727947_da6d84d0cd_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50385549701_b46217d268_o.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50385549021_6d50950082_o.jpg

struth
26-09-2020, 12:22
Maybe we should open a few Chinese style re education centres for these bassas

Macca
26-09-2020, 12:27
The old mattress, bidet and assorted bits of wood and stuff are all still in the entry opposite me. Been there since March and it's been reported.

You're always going to have people dumping rubbish, it's one of the original reasons we have town councils (or 'corporation' as it used to be), so there is someone whose job it is to clean it up.

Of course when the people running the council are lazy, arrogant and incompetent, the system falls down. Welcome to Britain 2020.

walpurgis
26-09-2020, 12:42
Maybe we should open a few Chinese style re education centres for these bassas

I'm sure I could come up with some good old fashioned Bristish methods of retraining their attitudes. They might be missing a few extremities after though. :chainsaw:

Roy S
26-09-2020, 12:47
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200926/094affe3628da6a5d8c668fe8f874a7b.jpg

Looks like Colonel Sanders is diversifying :D

guy
26-09-2020, 12:49
:lol:

guy
26-09-2020, 12:52
Got me thinking; how long will the "Colonel Sanders" image survive? - I see that "Uncle Ben" is being rebranded, without the image, for some strange reason.

struth
26-09-2020, 13:12
Looks like Colonel Sanders is diversifying :D

looks like a greek god, although not sure how that works with pasta

Pigmy Pony
26-09-2020, 13:39
this is the type of thing that caused shortage chaos back in the 70's...

https://priceonomics.com/the-great-toilet-paper-scare-of-1973/

of course joe public fell for the "so called" truth like a shot, and caused a shortage... the reporting now is doing the same thing... say you have plenty stock really means get it while you can folks.

I might add my maw bought izal, and there was no shortage of that..it was like wiping your arse with a brick!!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/ca/49/09ca49da8c3433c6fc6af7336a994f50.jpg

Accrington bricks aren't too bad, quite smooth. Concrete blocks are the ones to avoid. And make sure they are free of mortar, that stuff causes severe ring-sting :(

Pigmy Pony
26-09-2020, 13:42
You're still getting deliveries from them though. That's cheating.

If I can't get it in the corner shop or the market then I don't have it.

That's one upmarket market, selling JM Labs and Krell gear :D

Pigmy Pony
26-09-2020, 13:48
Meet your friends, go out for a drink, take the train into Liverpool, have a walk down by the docks (get some FRESH AIR in yer lungs), visit yer mammy - woteva! There's currently no national lockdown. or correct me if I'm wrong, even a local one in your area.

For us, the whole of North Wales is still open, including Chester, so we're functioning completely as normal (apart from having to wear a fooking face covering in shops). I simply couldn't function being cooped up inside within the same four walls. day after day - too used to the garden and getting out and about.

My dad and I went for a lovely pub lunch the other day - yes LIFE still exists!:ner:;)

Marco.

As far as I know, nationally (England) it's back to no mixing households which don't have this "bubble" crap going on. And I thought Wales was similar. You and your dad need to watch out for the Covid Snitches..

Marco
26-09-2020, 13:54
I tried to avoid doing most of those even before Covid! ;)

Did visit a friend a few weeks ago, and had a few visit me. Went up Liverpool in June. There's no-where near me that does a 'lovely' pub lunch. It's a two mile walk to get somewhere even half-decent for that. If you want a decent steak that's 7 miles away.

I've always regarded any need to leave the house as either an absolute necessity or a failure of planning.

Well, your last sentence is funny, but describes a different world from the one I inhabit!;)

Secondly, you've outlined exactly why I'd *never* live without a car, as it gives your FREEDOM [go where you like, when you like] and prevents you from being trapped. I know your views on that of course, but we'll never agree because we're fundamentally different people:)

Marco.

Marco
26-09-2020, 13:57
As far as I know, nationally (England) it's back to no mixing households which don't have this "bubble" crap going on. And I thought Wales was similar. You and your dad need to watch out for the Covid Snitches..

Nope, there's no lockdowns in North Wales, and as far as I know here it's still the rule of six - and last time I counted 1 + 1 [me plus my dad] = 2;)

Marco.

struth
26-09-2020, 14:01
as his dad is in bubble with marco(poor soul):eyebrows: its allowed

Marco
26-09-2020, 14:21
Indeed... Here is the official situation for Wales: https://gov.wales/guidance-extended-households-coronavirus


The general rule is that you can only meet socially with people who are in your exclusive extended household group (bubble) indoors. From 14 September, meetings or gatherings indoors within your extended household must be limited to six people at any one time (not including any children aged under 11). This applies in places like pubs and restaurants as well as in people’s homes.


Our 'bubble' consists of Del, my dad and me, plus three of our close friends, and in North Wales and the parts of England nearest us, there are currently no local lockdowns (everything is open for business) so plenty of scope for socialising and living your life!:)

Marco [an intrinsically social animal, who simply could not function as a 'recluse'].

struth
26-09-2020, 14:26
not got a bubble...cant blame anyone as my pumps are awful;)

Marco
26-09-2020, 14:28
Lol - help me out, as I must be especially thick today... What have pumps got to do with a bubble?:hmm:

Marco.

struth
26-09-2020, 14:30
https://marli.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/empathyinabubble-732x380.jpg

can get smelly

Marco
26-09-2020, 14:41
Ah, THOSE kind of pumps!:D

Piggurs has earned the 'badge' for that [Captain Smello]...:eyebrows:

Marco.

Marco
26-09-2020, 17:50
Well tonight's the first time we've switched the central heating on (just enough to take the chill off) since the middle of May! We don't normally light the wood burner until October, and with the weather looking decent for next week, we're on course for that...

Quite looking forward to the forthcoming cosy dark winter evenings, in front of the fire watching a good movie!:)

Marco.

Barry
26-09-2020, 22:00
Switched mine on yesterday. :)

Spent the whole of yesterday listening to vinyl, so didn't log on to a certain audio forum. ;)

struth
30-09-2020, 13:06
got 5 deliveries today :eek: freezers are full to bursting too.. i wont go hungry

walpurgis
30-09-2020, 13:36
got 5 deliveries today :eek: freezers are full to bursting too.. i wont go hungry

My last one came from Tesco Sunday. Next one due 11 Oct from Asda. Got a good stock of everything for the time being.

struth
30-09-2020, 13:41
mine was a frozen one which was bigger than i thought, and a fresh pack of meat from campbells.. a full length of ayrshire square lorne:eyebrows: a lb of good bacon and a dozen big fresh mixed burgers. the rest isnt food tho... some beer, coffeeand baking goods

Macca
04-10-2020, 11:42
Playing old school games on my Aracdepro console

https://i.ibb.co/x5SRq15/20201004-123404.jpg (https://ibb.co/HgDkTtg)

Galaxians on 55'' screen with the sound through the stereo - excellent!

https://i.ibb.co/X73pggx/20201004-124004.jpg (https://ibb.co/LxJ6WWd)

Marco
04-10-2020, 13:09
Lovin' that, mate... That is TOTAL quality, and the only video games I'd be interested in playing!:respect:

You can keep yer modern pish!

Marco.

Macca
04-10-2020, 13:36
I used to be good at some of these games. If you were in the 'Golden Goose' in Llandudno around 1980 that high score on the Galaxians was mine.

Likewise in the arcade at the caravan park in Barmouth I was top scorer on Space Invaders. Until I got in a fight with some Geordie youth and got banned.

The passage of 40 years seems to have slowed my reaction times a bit though.

Pigmy Pony
04-10-2020, 14:07
I used to be good at some of these games. If you were in the 'Golden Goose' in Llandudno around 1980 that high score on the Galaxians was mine.

Likewise in the arcade at the caravan park in Barmouth I was top scorer on Space Invaders. Until I got in a fight with some Geordie youth and got banned.

The passage of 40 years seems to have slowed my reaction times a bit though.

What, you don't think you could handle Geordie youths any more?

When me and my mate were doing bar work in a town pub in 1980, we always had the two top scores on their Asteroids game. But the one I excelled at (a couple of years earlier) was called "Breakout", I think.

Macca
04-10-2020, 14:13
Asteroids was rock hard. I could play all day on the Atari version without losing a life but the proper arcade version was much harder. Hit that thrust button by accident and that was it, you were finished. And those alien saucers never missed.

Pigmy Pony
04-10-2020, 14:22
I don't think we were particularly good at it, just better than all the pissheads that frequented it. They could afford a pint, or a 'Schooner' of Aussie white, but not matching shoes it seemed. In the Kingdom of the blind, and all that :)

Roy S
07-10-2020, 08:02
First time in tescos for over 6 months

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201007/9606e388e12d1c63a48f874ae514abb9.jpg

Barry
07-10-2020, 09:33
What are we looking at Roy?

I visited my local Tesco for the first time in over two years, and it was busy with no sign of any shortage or panic buying. Only went to buy a couple of printer cartridges, but ended up buying £136's worth of shopping! :doh:

struth
07-10-2020, 09:35
looks like tescos..;)

Barry
07-10-2020, 10:10
A very empty Tesco. :D

guy
07-10-2020, 10:42
What are we looking at Roy?

I visited my local Tesco for the first time in over two years, and it was busy with no sign of any shortage or panic buying. Only went to buy a couple of printer cartridges, but ended up buying £136's worth of shopping! :doh:

My wife gives me a list now :lol:

Roy S
07-10-2020, 12:21
A very empty Tesco. :D

It was quite early. I was getting shafted in Costas.

struth
07-10-2020, 13:09
It was quite early. I was getting shafted in Costas.

:eek: least said, soonest mended eh :lol::eyebrows:

Marco
07-10-2020, 13:22
It was quite early. I was getting shafted in Costas.

Lol - and knowing you, shweety, you'd have loved it!:D

However, you haven't answered the question Barry asked, what was the picture you posted supposed to illustrate?:hmm:

Barry, you can tell whether or not you're in a chav area, by the presence (or lack thereof) of any panic-buying idiocy!;)

Marco [not stopped shopping physically in supermarkets since this 'pandemic' started].

Roy S
07-10-2020, 13:30
However, you haven't answered the question Barry asked, what was the picture you posted supposed to illustrate?:hmm:

].

Just that I was in tescos?

Probably unnecessary but the balance of my mind was upset due to a) being out & about b) it being so early

Barry
07-10-2020, 13:49
I haven't seen any signs (as yet) of panic buying, either at home in the village, or here in London. A couple of weeks ago the stock of loo rolls in my local supermarket were down, but not exhausted. Now everything is back to normal.

Marco
07-10-2020, 14:14
Just that I was in tescos?

Probably unnecessary but the balance of my mind was upset due to a) being out & about b) it being so early

Ah I see... I thought you were photographing something in particular. Hope it felt good being out and about - more 'Covid prisoners' need such freeing!!;)

Marco.

Marco
07-10-2020, 14:16
I haven't seen any signs (as yet) of panic buying, either at home in the village, or here in London. A couple of weeks ago the stock of loo rolls in my local supermarket were down, but not exhausted. Now everything is back to normal.

Yup, round here it's the same, and there's been ZERO evidence this time of any brain-dead panic buying. As I said, it's no accident where there's a proliferation of chavs, there's a likelihood of panic buying!

Marco [can't stand the stupid fucks].

Macca
10-10-2020, 12:54
What a right load of old shite on the telly today. Was hoping there would be something half-way decent in the 'movie for a dreary afternoon' slot.

No great hopes, I'd have settled for something like 'Ice Station Zebra' so the sights aren't set especially high. But there's nothing even remotely watchable on even though I've got every channel.

Going to be a long winter at this rate.

struth
10-10-2020, 15:27
I used to be with it, but then they changed what *it* was. Now what I'm with isn't *it*, and what's *it* seems weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you...

Macca
10-10-2020, 15:48
No way man. We're going to keep on rockin' forever!

Marco
10-10-2020, 15:48
What a right load of old shite on the telly today. Was hoping there would be something half-way decent in the 'movie for a dreary afternoon' slot.

No great hopes, I'd have settled for something like 'Ice Station Zebra' so the sights aren't set especially high. But there's nothing even remotely watchable on even though I've got every channel.

Going to be a long winter at this rate.

Telly? Buy some Blurays or get yerself a Netflix subscription, daftee!:D

Marco.

Macca
10-10-2020, 15:53
No, got enough subscriptions already and too many DVDs.

Just ended up watching a couple of mediocre Westerns.

Marco
10-10-2020, 15:58
So with all your subscriptions, you still couldn't find anything worthwhile watching - which ones have you got?

Marco.

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:02
Everything you can get on Virgin and Amazon Prime.

I had a look at what Netflix has to offer and decided it wasn't worth it. They just don't make the sort of TV I'm into anymore, and film-wise I can't be doing with all the superhero shite which seems to be 90% of Hollywood's output these days.

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:11
If you've got Sky Movies, then there should be plenty of stuff, of the type you describe, to watch in the classic movie sections, no?

Marco.

struth
10-10-2020, 16:11
dont use netflix much, but get it free so its handy. i copied all my dvds onto hard drive and can play them easily as files without getting off my ass:lol:

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:18
If you've got Sky Movies, then there should be plenty of stuff, io the type you describe, to watch in the classic movie sections, no?

Marco.

No Sky movies is the worst. I don't pay for that anymore. Plus I've got all the classics on DVD already.

I wasn't wanting to go to any real effort to find something to watch, just wanted to quickly click onto some pap and zone out. But there was nothing.

struth
10-10-2020, 16:19
No way man. We're going to keep on rockin' forever!

Grand Funk Railroad paved the way for Jefferson Airplane, which cleared the way for Jefferson Starship. The stage was now set for the Alan Parsons Project, which I believe was some sort of hovercraft.

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:21
Must say I'm rather impressed with this new Panasonic player - the visuals and sonics are stunning:)

Marco.

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:23
Can't even watch the Sweeny or The Professionals because ITV 4 has been taken over by the French Open tennis. Bad enough that it's tennis without it being French as well.

And before that it was the Bore De France. There are four ITV channels so how come they always put this stuff on the only one of them that I watch?

struth
10-10-2020, 16:24
Must say I'm rather impressed with this new Panasonic player - the visuals and sonics are stunning:)

Marco.

yeah my one is great for money.. the pic i believe is as good, and maybe better than the upgraded oppo...especially downgrading 4k stuff to just hd.
the oppo is a better machine in other ways; connectivity for one

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:27
Must say I'm rather impressed with this new Panasonic player - the visuals and sonics are stunning:)

Marco.

Sorry I was ranting. Yes each new one is always better than the old one isn't it? Unlike hi-fi, video does actually improve in quality with each new generation.

I bought a quite pricey Denon as my first DVD player back in 2001, got a cheapo Pioneer a couple of years later, was amazed at how much better it was. Sold the Denon to a mate and it's still going strong, gets used every day.

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:29
Yeah, good stuff. I reckon this Panny is where it's at picture-wise right now. Multiple forms of connectivity. uber-build quality, apps, etc, mean jack shit to me. All that matters is the audio and visual performance with 4K UHD discs, so this ticks all the right boxes - BIGTIME...:exactly:

Next up, a Dolby Atmos-compatible home-cinema amp, and more speakers!:D

Marco.

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:34
Co-incidentally Denon look like they are cinema amps to go for right now. They've been testing various makes on ASR and the performance of most of the others was shockingly poor.

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:36
Sorry I was ranting. Yes each new one is always better than the old one isn't it? Unlike hi-fi, video does actually improve in quality with each new generation.

I bought a quite pricey Denon as my first DVD player back in 2001, got a cheapo Pioneer a couple of years later, was amazed at how much better it was. Sold the Denon to a mate and it's still going strong, gets used every day.

Ain't that the truth!:)

You should get one of the latest ones now though, for the very reasons you mention.

Marco.

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:37
Co-incidentally Denon look like they are cinema amps to go for right now. They've been testing various makes on ASR and the performance of most of the others was shockingly poor.

It'll defo be a Denon. The current one is Denon, and it's great, even with music:)

Marco.

Macca
10-10-2020, 16:43
Ain't that the truth!:)

You should get one of the latest ones now though, for the very reasons you mention.

Marco.

Yep but the longer you leave it between upgrades the more you notice the benefit :)

besides, the Pioneer I have now I got for free and I want to squeeze every penny out of it. :D

Marco
10-10-2020, 16:50
Ha - ya gots ta lurve tightwads!:eyebrows:

Marco.

Pigmy Pony
10-10-2020, 16:56
My blu ray player is Panasonic, but it's about 4 years old now. Probably not quite good enough for my LG OLED telly, and I can't summon the enthusiasm to replace it. Just laziness I guess. The last blu ray disc I bought was "Once upon a Time in Hollywood", it was months before I got round to watching it, then 5 minutes later it was on Sky Movies.

The problem is, my armchair is here, and the discs are all the way over there. Strange how I'm happy to get up every 20 minutes to turn a record over, but for viewing I just want to press buttons.

Also the picture is a bit crap when everything is going through my ancient Sony AV receiver, so just using telly sound at the mo. Everything changes so quickly, but I will have to address this - Anita misses the big bangs (this is where you jump in, Marco) :eyebrows:

Macca
10-10-2020, 18:54
My blu ray player is Panasonic, but it's about 4 years old now. Probably not quite good enough for my LG OLED telly, and I can't summon the enthusiasm to replace it. Just laziness I guess. The last blu ray disc I bought was "Once upon a Time in Hollywood", it was months before I got round to watching it, then 5 minutes later it was on Sky Movies.

The problem is, my armchair is here, and the discs are all the way over there. Strange how I'm happy to get up every 20 minutes to turn a record over, but for viewing I just want to press buttons.

Also the picture is a bit crap when everything is going through my ancient Sony AV receiver, so just using telly sound at the mo. Everything changes so quickly, but I will have to address this - Anita misses the big bangs (this is where you jump in, Marco) :eyebrows:

I've never run the picture through the amp, don't see the point of it. I only use a standard 2 channel hi-fi amp these days though, it has a DAC with optical in and I just run optical from the back of the telly into the amp. You forget how crap the built-in TV sound is until you plug in a proper amp and speakers. So much more enjoyable with decent sound.

Pigmy Pony
11-10-2020, 05:57
I've never run the picture through the amp, don't see the point of it. I only use a standard 2 channel hi-fi amp these days though, it has a DAC with optical in and I just run optical from the back of the telly into the amp. You forget how crap the built-in TV sound is until you plug in a proper amp and speakers. So much more enjoyable with decent sound.

But are you sure that your optical is just carrying the audio? I'd always assumed that the optical and HDMI outs from the telly carried sound and picture. This way sound and vision was always in synch. maybe I was just being thick - when it came to A/V i just moved wires and switches about till something happened, then left it alone. A case of "well it's working, but I've no idea why"...

struth
11-10-2020, 06:18
Hdmi does audio, video in sync. Before that you needed to use an audio cable and video. Best bet was optical audio and a dvi plug to keep sync

Macca
11-10-2020, 08:15
But are you sure that your optical is just carrying the audio?...

Yes.

Previously used a Sony 7 channel HT receiver for sound -coax from cable box into the receiver for sound and scart from cable box into telly for picture. No sound sync issues

Then telly and cable box got upgraded so couldn't do that anymore as no scart outputs or inputs - The bloke in Richer Sounds where I got the new telly told me to use optical from telly into a DAC. Since I had an amp with built in DAC lying about doing nothing it was a cheap and easy solution, £7 for the optical cable and Bob's your mother's brother.

Macca
11-10-2020, 08:18
I've also got an optical cable that has a DAC built into it so I can use an amp that doesn't have a DAC in it. But that's still in it's box, never tried it. Think that was only a tenner.

Pigmy Pony
11-10-2020, 20:28
I started out last Christmas (when I bought this 4K telly), running a HDMI from the Sky box to the Sony AV amp, then HDMI from that to the telly. I assumed the HD credentials of the amp were the weak link as the picture didn't look right. So I cut out the amp and speakers and just run the Sky box straight to the telly. that improved the picture but now I just have sound from TV. Seems a bit of a waste, as the surround sound stuff is all MA Radius speakers, and a decent BK sub.

I should have a word with the good men of Richers on how best to make it all work :)

Marco
11-10-2020, 20:51
Don't get it... I'm doing exactly the same as you, with very similar gear, hooked up via HDMI, (Monoprice 4K compatible cables) and I've got the Odeon in my living room!

Summat ain't right...

Marco.

struth
11-10-2020, 22:51
Cables may not be of right spec. Maybe get better ones(not Ness dearer)
Some have wrong spec, and swapping in a different cable fixes it.
Also need to check that all setti gs are correct

Macca
12-10-2020, 07:35
I started out last Christmas (when I bought this 4K telly), running a HDMI from the Sky box to the Sony AV amp, then HDMI from that to the telly. I assumed the HD credentials of the amp were the weak link as the picture didn't look right. So I cut out the amp and speakers and just run the Sky box straight to the telly. that improved the picture but now I just have sound from TV. Seems a bit of a waste, as the surround sound stuff is all MA Radius speakers, and a decent BK sub.

I should have a word with the good men of Richers on how best to make it all work :)

Run an optical from TV into the Sony amp apropos achieving surround sound without running picture signal through the amplifier.

Pigmy Pony
12-10-2020, 19:21
Run an optical from TV into the Sony amp apropos achieving surround sound without running picture signal through the amplifier.

Does the optical not carry picture then? If not, that could the answer :)

Macca
12-10-2020, 21:27
Does the optical not carry picture then? If not, that could the answer :)

No, no picture, just sound. Cost you about £8 for the cable.

Pigmy Pony
13-10-2020, 06:34
Cheers Martin, I think you may have the solution there. I think I have an optical lead knocking around, I'll have a search tonight. Or get one off th'Amazon :)

Macca
13-10-2020, 20:03
Just been down the offy for a can of beer, imagine my surprise to see that The Mystery Machine was parked outside.

Alex_UK
13-10-2020, 20:25
Just been down the offy for a can of beer, imagine my surprise to see that The Mystery Machine was parked outside.

Probably looking for those pesky kids stocking up for a uni house party...

walpurgis
13-10-2020, 20:47
Just been down the offy for a can of beer.

Coincidentally, so have I, first beer for ages. Probably won't enjoy it.

Barry
13-10-2020, 21:05
Just been down the offy for a can of beer, imagine my surprise to see that The Mystery Machine was parked outside.

What is "The Mystery Machine"?

Pigmy Pony
14-10-2020, 06:25
What is "The Mystery Machine"?

...asked Barry the evil lighthouse keeper :ner:

If we told you, it wouldn't be a mystery any more...

Ok then, it's what got Scooby Doo et al to their adventures, a rather psychedelic VW microbus iirc, and was almost as cool as the "A Teams" van.

Macca
14-10-2020, 07:20
This one was a Vauxhall Vivaro Turbo so I guess Freddie must have traded in the VW.

It's a long way to the nearest amusement park, abandoned or otherwise, so don't know what they were doing round here.

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14-10-2020, 11:49
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