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struth
30-11-2018, 13:56
B of C. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181130/705601c8ab54b6ac27334e5a89b71566.jpg

Masterpiece. lol

struth
01-12-2018, 10:45
Saturday so later up

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181201/691e3c2d8a9b82749daae1331043e129.jpg

Filled to brim

Lasted not long but the gloopy crema/milk mix top stayed. Was very nice too

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181201/b10b02a0c152418798fe557c9111baee.jpg

struth
01-12-2018, 13:48
treating the taste buds with another

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181201/0241b3536a9eaaf3f0fcc6723c529bc8.jpg

Camera on phone isn't focusing well alas

struth
01-12-2018, 17:47
Another stunner. Yum

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181201/297303668304c01a676fa175ec40c265.jpg

Marco
01-12-2018, 21:23
Did you use a flash to take that? If so, shame, as it makes your lovely crema look horribly synthetic! Or if not, there's something not quite right with the lighting. Compare that with the previous shot, mate.

Whatever you do to make your crema look lovely and brown and rich, in terms of lighting/use of flash/camera angle or whatever, is what you need to do *every* time you photograph your coffee:)

Marco.

struth
01-12-2018, 21:26
Lack of natural light and no overhead. Should have taken it in kitchen really. It's the Italian blend I'm using Quite nice it is and gives just enough crema. Might end up keeping this as a staple

struth
01-12-2018, 21:30
After saying that the crema is slightly browner than orange but fine in my book. Ive got a kilo of stuff so be ok for a while lol

Marco
01-12-2018, 21:32
No worries, mate. Hope you haven't taken it the wrong way... It's just that most of the time your coffees look sensational, and for me it's a shame when the photographic/lighting arrangements spoil that effect:)

Marco.

struth
01-12-2018, 21:34
Nope. Doesn't bother me at all. You'd have liked it, even tho there's milk in it

Marco
01-12-2018, 21:38
Oh no doubt it'll have tasted superb!:)

I've had it happen to me before mate, when photographing food... Lack of natural light and/or flashes strip the warmth from the look of what you're photographing, and make it appear somewhat insipid.

Marco.

Tim
02-12-2018, 10:28
Well I have to say I'm underwhelmed by two of the three Coffee Compass roasts so far, the Brazilian (Brazil Ecoagricola) and Costa Rican (Costa Rica Don Alfonso). Both are quite light roasts and not bursting with flavour, the Costa Rican is very smooth with very little acidity, so it's a pleasant easy drinking coffee but it lacks the punch of a good Columbian bean. I have one more to go, an Espresso blend so hopefully that'll have more flavour, but I won't be buying either of the first two again.

https://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/folder2_zpsznb7ufi9.jpg

struth
02-12-2018, 10:31
The two before combining
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181202/845deaa82acd2fc98ab27da4fb649a15.jpg

User211
02-12-2018, 13:59
End of a large Waitrose latte.

4/10. Quite tasteless. Where's the coffee? Tastes like half a shot.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181202/3bcaf567da78cc2ef1f40f9e15aab16a.jpg

struth
02-12-2018, 14:08
Afternoon cuppa

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181202/66af69ae862eaf29faa9100087838655.jpg

User211
02-12-2018, 15:22
Grant destroys Waitrose...:D:)

Marco
02-12-2018, 15:59
The two before combining
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181202/b9794ae47208c323088d915ef2b09597.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181202/845deaa82acd2fc98ab27da4fb649a15.jpg

Much better (in terms of the photography):thumbsup:

That espresso looks positively yummy!

Marco.

julesd68
02-12-2018, 16:02
Well I have to say I'm underwhelmed by two of the three Coffee Compass roasts so far, the Brazilian (Brazil Ecoagricola) and Costa Rican (Costa Rica Don Alfonso). Both are quite light roasts and not bursting with flavour, the Costa Rican is very smooth with very little acidity, so it's a pleasant easy drinking coffee but it lacks the punch of a good Columbian bean. I have one more to go, an Espresso blend so hopefully that'll have more flavour, but I won't be buying either of the first two again.

Dang I hate it when that happens Tim.
I wonder what is more disappointing - the purchase or the thought of having to drink the rest of the pack! :lol:

struth
02-12-2018, 16:03
Much better (in terms of the photography):thumbsup:

That espresso looks positively yummy!

Marco.

This Italian blend is going well. Ordered more for xmas

struth
02-12-2018, 16:08
Dang I hate it when that happens Tim.
I wonder what is more disappointing - the purchase or the thought of having to drink the rest of the pack! :lol:

just toss it if its not to your taste.

Tim
03-12-2018, 00:48
Dang I hate it when that happens Tim.
I wonder what is more disappointing - the purchase or the thought of having to drink the rest of the pack! [emoji38]Well I guess that's the price you pay for experimenting, but I'm inclined to go with Grant's suggestion and toss em', or just use for testing grind sizes or flushing stale grounds out the burrs. They are 500g packs too FFS.

Or I could give it to guests who drink instant with milk and sugar and they'll think I'm giving them gourmet coffee :)

I have to say for £3.29 a pack the Tesco Colombian Supremo beans often see off some single origin beans at over twice the price . . . go figure!

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struth
03-12-2018, 10:04
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User211
04-12-2018, 06:35
Well I guess that's the price you pay for experimenting, but I'm inclined to go with Grant's suggestion and toss em', or just use for testing grind sizes or flushing stale grounds out the burrs. They are 500g packs too FFS.

Or I could give it to guests who drink instant with milk and sugar and they'll think I'm giving them gourmet coffee :)

I have to say for £3.29 a pack the Tesco Colombian Supremo beans often see off some single origin beans at over twice the price . . . go figure!

From my mobile using TapatalkLeave them for two weeks and try again. They night become drinkable.

Coffee is variable to say the least. You'll get an amazing one, order it again, and it won't be amazing. Especially true of small producers.

struth
04-12-2018, 09:47
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181204/39b2e1e50093f733745b99e997104dc0.jpg

lovely and creamy that was

Jimbo
04-12-2018, 10:10
Nice one Grant.

Tim
04-12-2018, 10:12
Leave them for two weeks and try again. They night become drinkable.

Coffee is variable to say the least. You'll get an amazing one, order it again, and it won't be amazing. Especially true of small producers.

Yes agree, they've had two weeks now but they may improve with a little more resting. I can't complain really as they were an offer, 20 quid for 1.5kg isn't bad, maybe they were inundated with orders and paid a bit less attention to the roasting?

Haha, "coffee is variable to say the least" . . . you got that right for sure ;)

What is interesting is that mixing them 50/50 with the cheap Aldi beans really produces a nice cup, better than the sum of them both individually. Or maybe I've just got weird taste?

struth
04-12-2018, 10:32
Nice one Grant.

cheers... was nice

struth
04-12-2018, 16:09
Afternoon dose

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User211
04-12-2018, 16:17
Yes agree, they've had two weeks now but they may improve with a little more resting. I can't complain really as they were an offer, 20 quid for 1.5kg isn't bad, maybe they were inundated with orders and paid a bit less attention to the roasting?

Haha, "coffee is variable to say the least" . . . you got that right for sure ;)

What is interesting is that mixing them 50/50 with the cheap Aldi beans really produces a nice cup, better than the sum of them both individually. Or maybe I've just got weird taste?No just find what you like.

I am familiar with that Tesco Columbian you like.

So try Taylor's of Harrogate Cacao Superior Columbian. It is rich and gooey and not at all bitter. I keep seeing it in Sainsbury's for £3.50 but usually it is £4.50.

Their Praline one is good to very good sometimes.

For £3.50 I think it beats the Tesco jobbie by a long shot. But for what you have said try the Cacao.

Tim
04-12-2018, 16:43
Thanks, I'll look out for that, I do seem to favour Colombian beans.

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User211
04-12-2018, 18:11
Tis good at £4.50 but at £3.50 it is a steal.

struth
05-12-2018, 12:18
My last pic for a while
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Not too shabby

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181205/8037cc914385060b93845dbfc9cf09e1.jpg

julesd68
06-12-2018, 18:13
Well I guess that's the price you pay for experimenting, but I'm inclined to go with Grant's suggestion and toss em', or just use for testing grind sizes or flushing stale grounds out the burrs. They are 500g packs too FFS.

Or I could give it to guests who drink instant with milk and sugar and they'll think I'm giving them gourmet coffee :)

I have to say for £3.29 a pack the Tesco Colombian Supremo beans often see off some single origin beans at over twice the price . . . go figure!
I'm just finishing off my Brazil Sao Marco from Rave today and tried it with 2 mins brew time instead of the usual 1 min. Your previous words on the subject must have seeped into my subconscious as I'm very happy with the results. Delicious at 1 min but the extra brew time really suits as you get more depth without killing off any of the subtle notes which often happens. It's an exceptional coffee. I really look forward to buying it in beans and grinding my own in the near future ...

Tim
06-12-2018, 20:05
Tis good at £4.50 but at £3.50 it is a steal.

Good shout Justers, I made a special trip to Sainsbury's today (never go there normally, too far) and it's on offer at the moment for £3.50 - I bought the last 3 bags on the shelf! Interestingly there were oodles of their other beans there, but seems there had been a run on the Cacao Superior Columbian, which I took as a good sign . . . maybe someone else has been reading this thread?

Anyhoots, I really like them, I'll have to do a Pepsi challenge with the Tesco beans, but these might just pip them and could become my new go-to bean. Top man :thumbsup:
Noticed you can also get them on Amazon for £3.50 a bag if you buy by the half dozen, or £19.95 for 6 if you subscribe to a regular delivery (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Taylors-Harrogate-Superior-Colombia-Ground/dp/B071VCVYNZ/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1544126223&sr=8-1&keywords=cacao+superior+colombia). Once I've got them dialled in how I like them, I might just stop messing around with speciality roasters as it's too variable and does my head in, I just want the same cup of good coffee daily. I hate chasing my tail.

Jules,

There is quite a bit of buggering about you can do with an Aeropress to improve the end product, but brew times and water temperature can be key if you can't change much else. I tried all sorts of combinations, till I got what I liked and is part of the reason I like to stick to a consistently good bean, as everytime you change you have to go through the whole trial and error process again. Bit like fecking HiFi and I can't be arsed with buggering about with that once I'm happy either, I just want to play music.

I might just try those Rave Sao Marco beans though.

struth
09-12-2018, 13:06
Not showed one for a while but this on is nice bordering on perfect for me

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/c47686ccfd0b449a7cc7b26d71c57d9f.jpg

struth
13-12-2018, 08:44
Excellent early morning coffee alas not much left

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181213/c65fde0ba01a7583e60d46bcad69c910.jpg

Marco
13-12-2018, 22:54
The lighting's all wrong again, mate. It's making your gorgeous coffee look rather 'swampy', by imbuing it with an unappetising greenish hue...

Marco.

Marco
13-12-2018, 22:56
This is when the lighting is right:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181205/8037cc914385060b93845dbfc9cf09e1.jpg

This is when it's wrong:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/c47686ccfd0b449a7cc7b26d71c57d9f.jpg

Note the difference!

...so whatever you did in the first picture, you need to keep doing, if you want to show things off properly:)

Marco.

struth
13-12-2018, 23:05
First was in kitchen when there was a lot of natural light. White light screws with coffee colour lol

You get the idea tho. Nice the way the milk combines with the crema. It's a lot to do with the way you pour the milk

Marco
13-12-2018, 23:09
Yup, defo get the idea, and also agree about much depends on how you pour the milk, as indeed I've discovered myself. Plus, frothing never comes as good as it does with brand new, fresh milk.

Marco.

struth
14-12-2018, 09:17
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181214/4f9ee0d3603823df949d5456c3d6f030.jpg


Nice one

Marco
14-12-2018, 09:22
Dat's it:thumbsup:

Now don't let your standards slip, or you'll get a botty spank!:spank::D

Marco.

User211
14-12-2018, 13:53
Good shout Justers, I made a special trip to Sainsbury's today (never go there normally, too far) and it's on offer at the moment for £3.50 - I bought the last 3 bags on the shelf! Interestingly there were oodles of their other beans there, but seems there had been a run on the Cacao Superior Columbian, which I took as a good sign . . . maybe someone else has been reading this thread?

Anyhoots, I really like them, I'll have to do a Pepsi challenge with the Tesco beans, but these might just pip them and could become my new go-to bean. Top man [emoji106]
Noticed you can also get them on Amazon for £3.50 a bag if you buy by the half dozen, or £19.95 for 6 if you subscribe to a regular delivery (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Taylors-Harrogate-Superior-Colombia-Ground/dp/B071VCVYNZ/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1544126223&sr=8-1&keywords=cacao+superior+colombia). Once I've got them dialled in how I like them, I might just stop messing around with speciality roasters as it's too variable and does my head in, I just want the same cup of good coffee daily. I hate chasing my tail.

Jules,

There is quite a bit of buggering about you can do with an Aeropress to improve the end product, but brew times and water temperature can be key if you can't change much else. I tried all sorts of combinations, till I got what I liked and is part of the reason I like to stick to a consistently good bean, as everytime you change you have to go through the whole trial and error process again. Bit like fecking HiFi and I can't be arsed with buggering about with that once I'm happy either, I just want to play music.

I might just try those Rave Sao Marco beans though.I had some expectation bias against Taylor's for some reason that stopped me trying them for ages.

But they are good. Glad you like it considering you plumped for 3 bags on my reco! Would have felt guilty otherwise.

I like constant change I guess. But I do return to certain supermarket coffees quite a bit. It is just so much cheaper than the mail order companies and some of it really is quite drinkable. An awful lot of crap on the supermarket shelves though. You need some degree of wisdom.

Svend N
14-12-2018, 16:14
Dat's it:thumbsup:

Now don't let your standards slip, or you'll get a botty spank!:spank::D

Marco.

Now, now Marco, don't get the man excited. He'll be dreaming of a buxom brunette to do the deed, and won't he be crushed when you show up.

User211
14-12-2018, 22:00
Gonna buy one of these I think. Wanted a Sette 270W but feedback seems to indicate reliability issues and it is pretty flimsy plastic, which I can't handle.

https://youtu.be/IDO96CfFsww

struth
15-12-2018, 12:31
Good looking grinder. Using a sage smart myself now as my neck was stopping me using my beloved hand grinder.

User211
15-12-2018, 13:31
I am skeptical if I am really going to achieve anything by buying one. I have a pretty good Ascaso burr grinder and the only reason I am going for this is the relatives are contributing to an Xmas present for me in cash via my wife.

Can't really think of much else I want, though this will cost me, too. Its better than getting an unwanted load of junk for Xmas, though.

Tim
15-12-2018, 15:38
Glad you like it considering you plumped for 3 bags on my reco! Would have felt guilty otherwise.

Well you're safe, I like them ;)

I'm not totally mad about Taylor's normally, nothing wrong with them on the whole, just normally overpriced compared to other supermarket competition. Glad I tried these though.

struth
16-12-2018, 10:10
Top dog coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181216/82d7206d3f5da317f24c397c926ec59c.jpg

User211
16-12-2018, 20:29
I lied and went for a Rocket Fausto grinder, just because it matches my Rocket Evo espresso machine.

Tim
16-12-2018, 20:34
Nice grinder that Justin, did you get it from Bella Barista? Their service is outstanding.

User211
16-12-2018, 20:49
Yeah they appear to be the only UK stockist. Preorder but they claim to have some in tomorrow.

I have two pairs of triodes to sell which should easily cover the cost. So I figured why not?

Tim
16-12-2018, 20:51
I think their service is second to none, so if they have it, they'll get it to you. Happy days :)

User211
16-12-2018, 21:05
I view it as a bit of a £400 grinder in a £400 coat but looks do matter to a fair extent when it's sat next to a stunning looking machine.

Should last a very long time I hope.

struth
17-12-2018, 09:39
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181217/ac2cb236270d71e06bba43c11cf6b4b4.jpg

Not too shabby

Svend N
17-12-2018, 13:50
Had a house full of visitors this weekend, and did something fun: made a big pot of Neopolitan flip pot coffee (strong brew, like moka pot); let it cool and poured it into an ice cube tray and froze it; dropped one frozen coffee ice cube into each of a bunch of low-ball glasses and poured in a good shot of Baileys. As the ice cube slowly melts it infuses the Baileys with the coffee... Delicious! Everyone loved it. We nearly emptied a 1.5 litre bottle of Baileys doling these out.

Tried it last night again, but with Sambuca...also delicious!

Anyone with a moka pot could easily do this too, but I used the flip pot as it makes a big batch of strong brew in one go.

Let me know if you try it. Enjoy!

Svend

struth
17-12-2018, 15:05
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181217/5725055d41cad3924a79c5ee46ce0376.jpg

Ah Bisto

Tim
17-12-2018, 23:20
Had a house full of visitors this weekend, and did something fun: made a big pot of Neopolitan flip pot coffee (strong brew, like moka pot); let it cool and poured it into an ice cube tray and froze it; dropped one frozen coffee ice cube into each of a bunch of low-ball glasses and poured in a good shot of Baileys. As the ice cube slowly melts it infuses the Baileys with the coffee... Delicious! Everyone loved it. We nearly emptied a 1.5 litre bottle of Baileys doling these out.

Tried it last night again, but with Sambuca...also delicious!

Anyone with a moka pot could easily do this too, but I used the flip pot as it makes a big batch of strong brew in one go.

Let me know if you try it. Enjoy!

Svend

I'm going to try that Svend, I might not do Christmas decorations, but that doesn't include alcohol ;)

Svend N
18-12-2018, 01:56
Sounds good Tim. Hope you like it... But what's not to like? Baileys and coffee are great together :). Sambuca and espresso likewise - a classic combination. This is just a different way of bringing them together.

Marco
18-12-2018, 08:14
Great suggestion, Svend. Will give that a go with some Baileys, or rather my favourite Welsh alternative, Merlyn: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261121630

Not into Sambuca, as I don't like the taste of aniseed.

Marco.

User211
18-12-2018, 09:57
Sounds good Tim. Hope you like it... But what's not to like? Baileys and coffee are great together :). Sambuca and espresso likewise - a classic combination. This is just a different way of bringing them together.Went nuts for Espresso Martinis a while back.

Wide awake drunk:wink:

They are nice made well. Very nice. Then I found I just got fed up with it. Good once in a while. Will do some this Xmas.

User211
18-12-2018, 09:58
I'm going to try that Svend, I might not do Christmas decorations, but that doesn't include alcohol ;)The grinder is being delivered today. Bella are quick at any rate:)

User211
18-12-2018, 10:07
That said their email is dire. It is not possible to make the tracking work with the info they provide, and nor do they even provide an easy DPD website link.

Definitely a bit shite.

User211
18-12-2018, 11:22
My bad. I went to the USA DPD website by mistake. Sorry Bella! But nonetheless they should provide the tracking link, otherwise I would not have made that mistake.

Should arrive between 12 and 1. Really small window. Excellent.

Tim
18-12-2018, 11:26
My service was excellent, I didn't check the tracking info website they just told me it was coming the next day by email, then I got a text from DPD with a time slot, which they were bang in the middle of. Very well packed too.

I would definitely use them again, but it was the service I got prior to ordering that impressed me the most. Nothing was too much trouble, even when I changed my order.

User211
18-12-2018, 12:10
Bang on 12.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181218/e95f5b90a0c2c55465e6aee2cc4ed336.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181218/b2c045e017a3bd2d9332ff717fb1b7df.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181218/a4dfc8fd04e3f60d437632feb3932e69.jpg

User211
18-12-2018, 12:20
There 930g in the QC fail bag.

Now to leave the opening to Xmas day. Er...

User211
18-12-2018, 12:25
My service was excellent, I didn't check the tracking info website they just told me it was coming the next day by email, then I got a text from DPD with a time slot, which they were bang in the middle of. Very well packed too.

I would definitely use them again, but it was the service I got prior to ordering that impressed me the most. Nothing was too much trouble, even when I changed my order.Apart from the small tracking hiccup all good I agree. The 930g of junk beans is nice I nearly went out to get some trash beans TBH. Glad I didn't.

Svend N
18-12-2018, 15:47
Great suggestion, Svend. Will give that a go with some Baileys, or rather my favourite Welsh alternative, Merlyn: https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261121630

Not into Sambuca, as I don't like the taste of aniseed.

Marco.

Cool! Hope you like it.

A couple of hints:
- don't make the frozen cubes too big, as they will only be half-melted before the Baileys has been downed, requiring a top-up....quick way to drain the bottle :cool:
- to avoid Justin's wide-awake drunk syndrome, make it with decaf...I used some inexpensive pre-ground decaf espresso from our local Italian grocer...tasted great.

PS -- that Merlyn looks like good stuff! Did a search, but not to be found in these parts. I guess I have to come to Wales if I want a taste :)

struth
18-12-2018, 15:55
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181218/09d0f254bb5136a70b36446974d385ab.jpg

struth
19-12-2018, 09:24
It's creamy

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181219/7210f3902dd82d99c8a167de5a776845.jpg

struth
21-12-2018, 16:07
Hardcore

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struth
22-12-2018, 15:20
2 1/2 days to crimbo coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181222/ba90843a634b776a0fc91a83fe52d487.jpg

struth
24-12-2018, 09:12
Crimbo eve coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181224/bdcb2af1306e5fa324e53f6046aa1147.jpg

User211
24-12-2018, 11:13
Big stash of HasBean just arrived.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181224/7626585d83ec5d084062e077f56801df.jpg

struth
25-12-2018, 08:34
Happy xmas day

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/2535c05ce8dee4ce8afb94a98a785abe.jpg

User211
25-12-2018, 09:48
Indeed Grant.

New family member. Feed me coffee it says!:)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/3ab848f2a81f314b1d44daf859d28a09.jpg

struth
25-12-2018, 09:50
very posh:)

User211
25-12-2018, 09:51
Indeed. Quite glam.

struth
25-12-2018, 10:04
My little sage smart

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/acdce2a8966e06090432679deaacbba3.jpg

Does a decent job at setting 18

Audio Al
25-12-2018, 10:20
Nice kit gents :eyebrows:

:christmas:

User211
25-12-2018, 10:22
The Rocket is quiet.

The Ascaso to the right in the pic is very decent TBH. Very solid grinder substantial aluminium chassis and not expensive. Been fine for years.

The Rocket is a lot nicer, though. But then it bloody well should be.

struth
25-12-2018, 10:26
Coffee machine has been replaced by this early xmas pressie

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/a37eebd61778c06c726de79ad970feaa.jpg

''Tis very decent unit

Audio Al
25-12-2018, 10:33
Coffee machine has been replaced by this early xmas pressie

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181225/a37eebd61778c06c726de79ad970feaa.jpg

''Tis very decent unit


A man of many tampons , opps sorry should read Tampas :santa:

Does it have just a steam wand ? my machine has a steam and hot water wands , Never use the hot water one :christmas:

User211
25-12-2018, 10:35
Very nice Grant. What model is it so I can look it up.

The Fausto grinder is made by Conti Valerio for Rocket. I have to say the build quality is noticeably superior to the Rocket Giotto to the left of it.

struth
25-12-2018, 10:39
espresso machine is a duo temp pro and grinder is smart pro. (both Sage)both were on offer

struth
25-12-2018, 10:41
A man of many tampons , opps sorry should read Tampas :santa:

Does it have just a steam wand ? my machine has a steam and hot water wands , Never use the hot water one :christmas:

yeah and none fit now. they are just for show now :doh: there is another one not in pic thats calibrated but is a mil or 2 too big too.
yup a good steam wand, or hot water

Audio Al
25-12-2018, 10:43
yeah and none fit now. they are just for show now :doh: there is another one not in pic thats calibrated but is a mil or 2 too big too

Put them up for sale here
https://coffeeforums.co.uk/forum.php

struth
25-12-2018, 10:44
had to get the grinder as i cant use the manual much now due to spondylosis in neck, has lost a lot of power in shoulders and upper arms.

struth
25-12-2018, 10:51
Put them up for sale here
https://coffeeforums.co.uk/forum.php

dont really do coffee forums.. im old, know nowt and untalented.

Audio Al
25-12-2018, 10:52
dont really do coffee forums.. im old, know nowt and untalented.

NO NO NO , You is the Man :christmas:

struth
25-12-2018, 11:00
the tamper you get with the machine sticks out at left. you just pull it out as its held by magnet.. fits nicely in hand and does the job,
supposed to be a 54mm basket but thats the outer diameter not inner. im guessing a 51/52 would be needed

User211
26-12-2018, 09:11
Christmas treat at £9.

I'm not getting the supposed Mandarin taste, but the chocolate/raisin part is fair enough at a bit of a stretch.

It's damn nice if you like a deep, rich flavour, which I do from time to time.

Value for money is hard to quantify. On the one hand that's way too much for 250g. On the other hand, it's right up there with the best.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181226/e22a8838aba35fa7973b704b4a44c22f.jpg

struth
26-12-2018, 09:16
Christmas treat at £9.

I'm not getting the supposed Mandarin taste, but the chocolate/raisin part is fair enough at a bit of a stretch.

It's damn nice if you like a deep, rich flavour, which I do from time to time.

Value for money is hard to quantify. On the one hand that's way too much for 250g. On the other hand, it's right up there with the best.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181226/e22a8838aba35fa7973b704b4a44c22f.jpg

Had Finca beans from Rave. They were quite nice. I have got myself in a rut now and using their Italian blend, which i really like

User211
26-12-2018, 09:29
Close up of the beans. Claims to be a peaberry but the bean size variation is quite large.

Great shit, though, no question.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181226/bfafcb7866a4308dbb254e9f77539068.jpg

Considering the light to medium roast the flavour is surprising. This sort of taste usually comes from a darker roast.

struth
26-12-2018, 09:32
not AA anyway. look like a medium roast. probably suit me with my hand grinder which keeps them much cooler than the electric

struth
26-12-2018, 10:05
Steaming hot

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181226/e26c2bb1b406240eaf2e8830b1812092.jpg

User211
26-12-2018, 10:06
Looks great Grant.

Rocket Fausto porn...

https://youtu.be/423KiEWJWaM

struth
26-12-2018, 10:11
lovely build quality.

User211
26-12-2018, 10:13
Yup. It's top.

struth
26-12-2018, 15:25
Don't bogart that coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181226/1c58b7bda7d853e00dee41166572a43c.jpg

User211
26-12-2018, 17:28
Sage has PID which is surprising for the dosh. Looks like a good machine Grant.

struth
26-12-2018, 17:55
Sage has PID which is surprising for the dosh. Looks like a good machine Grant.

It does, yes Justin... Not a bad machine, and auto self flushes with cold water to control temp etc. Steam wand is excellent.

struth
27-12-2018, 09:31
Too many roads coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181227/5fbcda3d96aa23c6d3b08622352cc230.jpg

User211
27-12-2018, 13:40
So here's the answer to the question I thought I already new the answer to before I bought the Rocket Fausto.
Does it grind coffee any better than the Ascaso i-mini (http://www.ascaso.com/div-espresso-coffee-machines-grinders/i-mini-1.html)?

The answer, as I expected, is no, not really. So if you have a decent burr grinder, it is probably job done.

Sure the Rocket is way better built, looks a lot nicer, has better grind control, can hold more beans, is targeted at the commercial market so can handle large throughput with little effort with timed grinding etc. But does it make better coffee? Marginal, I reckon, at best.

struth
27-12-2018, 13:42
So here's the answer to the question I thought I already new the answer to before I bought the Rocket Fausto.
Does it grind coffee any better than the Ascaso i-mini (http://www.ascaso.com/div-espresso-coffee-machines-grinders/i-mini-1.html)?

The answer, as I expected, is no, not really. So if you have a decent burr grinder, it is probably job done.

Sure the Rocket is way better built, looks a lot nicer, has better grind control, can hold more beans, is targeted at the commercial market so can handle large throughput with little effort with timed grinding etc. But does it make better coffee? Marginal, I reckon, at best.

interesting.... if your only grinding a little then i guess its not going to give hugely different results then. might be regularly more accurate tho

struth
27-12-2018, 13:47
also it looks like the dogs bollocks so thats enough for me:eyebrows:

User211
27-12-2018, 14:00
interesting.... if your only grinding a little then i guess its not going to give hugely different results then. might be regularly more accurate tho

It is better at consistent dosing i.e. I can get almost exactly 18g in the portafilter in one timed grind. But that really isn't that critical +/- 10% is alright I reckon for my purposes.

Strange though it may sound I am happy with it. Tis a nice thing:)

struth
27-12-2018, 14:04
never weigh mine. i know how much i want in it and its now timed.. think its about 14/15 secs grind time. comes out slightly warm compared to the manual one but not excessively.

struth
27-12-2018, 14:20
14.6 secs into a non pressurised double portafilter. a 27 sec pour usually

User211
27-12-2018, 16:23
8.9 seconds for the 18g, so quite quick and quiet too.

Shots around 30-40 secs. Some times 50. Too long many would say. Super fine mousetail style. I tend to go slower rather than quicker. Seem to get a better result that way.

I pre-soak for a minute or two quite a bit of the time.

struth
27-12-2018, 16:28
8.9 seconds for the 18g, so quite quick and quiet too.

Shots around 30-40 secs. Some times 50. Too long many would say. Super fine mousetail style. I tend to go slower rather than quicker. Seem to get a better result that way.

I pre-soke for a minute or too quite a bit of the time.

my basket is double so probably more than 18g in it. i did have it finer and had a pour like yours, but it was a bit dark and over extracted for me

User211
27-12-2018, 16:37
Mine is double.

Don't forget I am using a double shot into a thermos full of milk most of the time. I need a strong shot.

struth
28-12-2018, 18:41
Photo was too bighttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/027af9c2b4dd9e2e5e9792d933222104.jpg

Running a tad late but shit happens

First coffee of day and just eaten for first time I was Hungary [emoji1126]

struth
29-12-2018, 11:40
Good morning coffee.... Justhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181229/375a17845d360cc5efab4d3f40ede882.jpg

struth
29-12-2018, 16:23
Yumhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181229/9a82aaa51dd212fb0e2659d6ae8ec84f.jpg

struth
30-12-2018, 11:35
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/RVIm0U.jpg

full pixel count pic today from camera... it certainly shows the difference

struth
31-12-2018, 10:54
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/292/TAsZjn.jpg

Marco
31-12-2018, 11:25
Textbook crema, dude!:thumbsup:

Marco.

struth
31-12-2018, 13:31
Textbook crema, dude!:thumbsup:

Marco.

better camera too helps

User211
02-01-2019, 10:04
Two of these Le Creuset coffee mugs from a niece for Xmas.

Full of HasBean Christmas blend which is excellent. Latest HasBean batch and they really seem to be back on form.

Milk frothed in the latest Nespresso device.

The sales lady made me smile. She said it was 'quite good'. That actually sold it to me:)

She is right. It is quite good:)

I definitely maintain steam wands affect taste for the worse.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190102/4c4eb732b9bbc4dc5f80f92cd4a1965e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190102/556d468cc3adc5820d4427e81ac5e6a8.jpg

User211
02-01-2019, 10:06
https://imageshack.com/a/img922/292/TAsZjn.jpgRespect. Looks great.

struth
02-01-2019, 11:03
cheers. this mornings effort not as good but ok

https://imageshack.com/a/img923/6227/6O1Nae.jpg

struth
03-01-2019, 11:15
soo creamy

https://imageshack.com/a/img922/8803/VLkTB1.jpg

struth
03-01-2019, 16:01
Nice drophttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/7bc7865296b403174740af2e1457945c.jpg

struth
04-01-2019, 11:54
Loverlyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/511a0ce3da43d1cd9783ce554feec0aa.jpg

struth
04-01-2019, 17:10
Nice coffee.. Coz I deserve it lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/fd5f0ce26c359a579bb71583a5bc5a97.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/aa7259560ef0d593c7a7c59868d3f2d0.jpg

struth
06-01-2019, 11:40
Still morning coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190106/3bdbf85f4189023954b7e256f9bfd09e.jpg

struth
06-01-2019, 17:20
An Afternoon onehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190106/b603b33710d510e0d0956ed3fac9c7a1.jpg

struth
08-01-2019, 17:29
Thirsty not hungry
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190108/72df4569496c430f7daeaa04f71e8650.jpg

Jimbo
10-01-2019, 07:13
A few shots of my morning coffee in the office/lab. I sit in the far corner (coffee grinder pic):) Lucky to have this at work for my daily brew and funny enough quite a few other folk from the business wander over!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4880/39720967403_6b6a5
f9a9f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23w1kKz)IMG_1181 (https://flic.kr/p/23w1kKz) by
[url=https://flic.kr/p/23w1m2M]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4822/39720968343_50d7e76b42_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162281319@N03/)IMG_1180 (https://flic.kr/p/23w1m2M) by J on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/23w1mBp]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7844/39720970293_25b5a2007b_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/pho@N03/)IMG_1182 (https://flic.kr/p/23w1mBp) by n Flickr

[url=https://flic.kr/p/23w1kKz]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4880/39720967403_6b6a5f9a9f_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos//)IMG_1181 (https://flic.kr/p/23w1kKz) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/N03/]], on Flickr

struth
10-01-2019, 07:30
Not many will get such facility in work

Sent from my G8341 using Tapatalk

Jimbo
10-01-2019, 07:49
I know I am lucky Grant, gonna miss it when I leave. Free coffee too! The machine is an ex Costa Marissa 2 grouphead with 2 steam wands. Bit old but certainly does the job.:)

struth
11-01-2019, 08:00
Fresh coffee to greet me

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190111/36b7a00b2e008f0a597f83162e883e96.jpg

User211
11-01-2019, 18:06
Marketing that arrived with my new bottomless.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190111/dccb2fc4cfaaf0257d3462e83df32264.jpg

User211
12-01-2019, 09:57
And the bottomless itself.

It looks like you get way more crema using one of these. However, I believe you get way more aeration as after the shot is poured you are left with around the same amount of crema after you let it settle.

A late Xmas pressies from my brother. Who owns the same Rocket machine as me pretty much.

These things looks way cooler pouring a shot. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/3b234ba9c785916ea19332fb555615f8.jpg

struth
12-01-2019, 10:02
yeah they are cool. i found the non pressurised the best compromise as not all machines can take one. ones ive seen have been 58mm

User211
12-01-2019, 10:06
In slow mo.

https://youtu.be/_nltawhsDbk

Jimbo
12-01-2019, 10:10
[QUOTE=User211;1049160]And the bottomless itself.

It looks like you get way more crema using one of these. However, I believe you get way more aeration as after the shot is poured you are left with around the same amount of crema after you let it settle.

A late Xmas pressies from my brother. Who owns the same Rocket machine as me pretty much.

These things looks way cooler pouring a shot. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/3b234ba9c785916ea19332fb555615f8.jpg[/QUOTE

The Rocket coffee machine sure looks cool. Saw one at the london coffee festival. Can you post a pic of yours Justin just to get me salivating.:)

struth
12-01-2019, 10:11
nice.. like molten crunchie

User211
12-01-2019, 10:17
yeah they are cool. i found the non pressurised the best compromise as not all machines can take one. ones ive seen have been 58mmI had one years ago with a Gaggia Classic. Very limited success with it so I gave up. Coffee went everywhere.

However, it worked fine first time with the current rig. Better kit I guess.

User211
12-01-2019, 10:17
Current rig Jim.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/16b5487c4c3996ba8cc70ab5c274d35c.jpg

struth
12-01-2019, 10:18
how u getting on with the new grinder?

User211
12-01-2019, 10:31
It is fine. It is very consistent and much more finely tunable than the Ascaso without guessing where you need to set the grind fineness when changing coffee. So getting it right is much quicker.

The bottomless takes more coffee. So I need to set the single grind time to match the bottomless, and the double to the ordinary pf.

I virtually never use the single shot pf I have.

Jim on a phone but this link might work for more pics of the machine when new.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!ApUl1xxOUo0laBscBmxcPKFzA1k

Jimbo
12-01-2019, 12:49
Current rig Jim.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/16b5487c4c3996ba8cc70ab5c274d35c.jpg

Very nice Justin, Grinder looks the biz too. You need to set the grind so that when you make an expresso it takes 20 seconds to run through to produce 30ml coffee then you know the grind is the correct size.

Svend N
12-01-2019, 14:48
Current rig Jim.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190112/16b5487c4c3996ba8cc70ab5c274d35c.jpg


That Giotto looks familiar :). We have one too. Wonderful machine. Ours looks a lot older than yours, pushing 14 years now but still going strong. Needs the odd repair but bombproof machine. Your grinder is a heck of lot more high tech than ours...nice! Ours is a basic Macap, on-off switch and that's it.

My brother had that same Ascaso as yours, but could never get good results from it. He eventually traded up to a Macap.

Nice setup you have! Enjoy.

CageyH
12-01-2019, 16:50
The grinder looks similar to my Mazzer Mini Electronic A, but in a chromed finish.
https://www.coffeedesk.pl/photos/products/normal/53d5336983d00fd47348fe356d381d00.jpg


Your coffee corner looks great.

User211
12-01-2019, 18:03
That Giotto looks familiar :). We have one too. Wonderful machine. Ours looks a lot older than yours, pushing 14 years now but still going strong. Needs the odd repair but bombproof machine. Your grinder is a heck of lot more high tech than ours...nice! Ours is a basic Macap, on-off switch and that's it.

My brother had that same Ascaso as yours, but could never get good results from it. He eventually traded up to a Macap.

Nice setup you have! Enjoy.I still rate the Ascaso. Built like a bomb for the money and does the job. The only issue is the adjustment isn't marked, so it is a guess job. But once dialled in for a particular coffee it is fine. It is no Rocket Fausto but for the money you wouldn't expect it.

Giotto is fine. The more recent ones are a little prettier I think. Sexier feet. Nicer knobs.

Nice cheaper setup would be a Rocket Appartamento and an Ascaso I think. Dumping more cash doesn't get you a lot more in terms of raw performance.

User211
12-01-2019, 18:06
The grinder looks similar to my Mazzer Mini Electronic A, but in a chromed finish.
https://www.coffeedesk.pl/photos/products/normal/53d5336983d00fd47348fe356d381d00.jpg


Your coffee corner looks great.Thanks. It gives me great pleasure:)

Svend N
12-01-2019, 18:14
I still rate the Ascaso. Built like a bomb for the money and does the job. The only issue is the adjustment isn't marked, so it is a guess job. But once dialled in for a particular coffee it is fine. It is no Rocket Fausto but for the money you wouldn't expect it.

Giotto is fine. The more recent ones are a little prettier I think. Sexier feet. Nicer knobs.

Nice cheaper setup would be a Rocket Apartmento and an Ascaso I think. Dumping more cash doesn't get you a lot more in terms of raw performance.

Agreed! The only thing the new Giotto has (other than looks) over the older ones is they got rid of those terrible little pressure stats that fail so maddeningly often. At least once a year I have to open up our machine and put a new one in, then fiddle about with getting boiler pressure dialed in again. The new ones have a far more reliable pressure regulator, and some even have a PID. Nice!

User211
12-01-2019, 18:36
Agreed! The only thing the new Giotto has (other than looks) over the older ones is they got rid of those terrible little pressure stats that fail so maddeningly often. At least once a year I have to open up our machine and put a new one in, then fiddle about with getting boiler pressure dialed in again. The new ones have a far more reliable pressure regulator, and some even have a PID. Nice!Yeah mine was the first Giotto model with PID. Pressure gauge fine so far had mine for a couple of years+ I guess.

Svend N
13-01-2019, 03:25
Yeah mine was the first Giotto model with PID. Pressure gauge fine so far had mine for a couple of years+ I guess.

Good one. You're all set then. Machine should be super reliable.

Have you looked at pics of the innards of similar machines compared to the layout of the Giotto? Others are a holy mess of wires and tubes and pipes; but the Giotto is clean, tidy, spare, neatly laid out...beautifully designed.

I was tempted to convert ours to PID but the tech at our local shop (John at Faema Toronto - great guy) talked me out of it. Can't recall what his reasons were, but he made a convincing argument as to why it wouldn't work. So I have to live with the crappy pressurestat.

CageyH
13-01-2019, 08:49
One of the reasons I chose the ECM Synchronika was the internal layout and components used.
It was the best thought out ones I saw on my shortlist.

Svend N
13-01-2019, 15:24
One of the reasons I chose the ECM Synchronika was the internal layout and components used.
It was the best thought out ones I saw on my shortlist.

For sure Kevin. The quality of parts and design that ECM/Rocket put into their machines is first rate. Once it comes time to replace our Giotto I'd buy another Rocket without even looking at other brands. That won't be soon though, as it's just had a tuneup at the shop and is going strong.

Svend N
13-01-2019, 15:37
Hey Marco! I finally tried that luxe milk you've been pestering me about :). It's from a small local dairy, but sold in our Italian grocery store, 15 min. walk from home. Unhomogenized whole milk, big glop of cream floating on top, old-fashion glass bottle.

OK, you were right - it's delicious! Used it for our Sunday morning lattes, and didn't tell my wife..."Mmmmm! Yum! What's in this?!".

Thanks for the nudge to try it. No going back now :)

CageyH
13-01-2019, 15:56
For sure Kevin. The quality of parts and design that ECM/Rocket put into their machines is first rate. Once it comes time to replace our Giotto I'd buy another Rocket without even looking at other brands. That won't be soon though, as it's just had a tuneup at the shop and is going strong.

The ECM made the rocket look shabby, in my opinion, but I did raise the budget to get the Synchronika.

Svend N
13-01-2019, 17:50
The ECM made the rocket look shabby, in my opinion, but I did raise the budget to get the Synchronika.

Um...correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe ECM and Rocket are the same company(?). Name changed to the latter quite a few years back already.

Ours is an ECM Giotto, 2005 model. It's now known as a Rocket Giotto...same machine, with some updated parts.

CageyH
13-01-2019, 17:52
I think it is Profitec and ECM that are the same company.

Svend N
13-01-2019, 18:05
I think it is Profitec and ECM that are the same company.

Hmmm...interesting. Your Synchronika is not shown on Rocket's site, but pops up at ECM.de, a German firm in Heidelberg. This is all new to me...I thought ECM just changed their name to Rocket and carried on. I will check it out....curious now...

CageyH
13-01-2019, 18:44
Yep, Espresso Coffee Machine, Heidelberg, Germany.
ECM GmbH.

Svend N
14-01-2019, 14:22
Yep, Espresso Coffee Machine, Heidelberg, Germany.
ECM GmbH.

I learned a little from a quick web search.... The original ECM, Milano, seems to have declared bankruptcy in 2010. After that it looks like Rocket bought their technology, machine designs, and possibly the whole factory (not sure on this), and carried on making the traditional designs - Giotto, Cellini, etc. ECM Germany seems to have secured the rights to the name, ECM, and started (or was already) making similar types of machines. I don't know the details, and could be wrong on a point or two, but what is clear is that my machine (2005 Giotto) was not made by the German ECM, but rather by the original ECM Milan.

CageyH
14-01-2019, 14:33
To confuse things more, I think the ECM are designed in Germany and made in Milan.
Either way, they are all good machines, but things like the stainless boilers swung it for me.

Svend N
14-01-2019, 14:42
To confuse things more, I think the ECM are designed in Germany and made in Milan.
Either way, they are all good machines, but things like the stainless boilers swung it for me.

Yeah, trust the Germans to take design and build to the next level, for an iconic Italian machine. :)

Audio Al
14-01-2019, 16:29
Help !!

My last 2 KGS of Rave beans have been somewhat bland :( unless my taste buds are non receptive ?

Anyone recomend me some beans ? plenty of flavour but not bitter :) Medium / dark roast

struth
14-01-2019, 17:19
The Italian blend is my current go to. From rave

User211
14-01-2019, 21:00
Help !!

My last 2 KGS of Rave beans have been somewhat bland :( unless my taste buds are non receptive ?

Anyone recomend me some beans ? plenty of flavour but not bitter :) Medium / dark roastTry Dr Strangelove from here and let us all know. Odd description of flavour but it is probably bullshit and won't really taste as described (as we all know).

https://extractcoffee.co.uk/

No idea whether it's good but it is localish for me. Waitrose magazine seems to rate it.

I am going to try something from there sooner or later.

User211
14-01-2019, 21:21
Sooner...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190114/ff3038837629028d6fb4b6f59e8b1b44.jpg

Marco
14-01-2019, 22:13
Hey Marco! I finally tried that luxe milk you've been pestering me about :). It's from a small local dairy, but sold in our Italian grocery store, 15 min. walk from home. Unhomogenized whole milk, big glop of cream floating on top, old-fashion glass bottle.

OK, you were right - it's delicious! Used it for our Sunday morning lattes, and didn't tell my wife..."Mmmmm! Yum! What's in this?!".

Thanks for the nudge to try it. No going back now :)

Hehehe... Nice one! Just shows you what we've been missing all these years, posing as 'milk':doh:

Enjoy!:cool:

Marco.

Svend N
15-01-2019, 00:56
So right, Marco. Eye-opening, for sure, to have (finally) tasted milk the way it should be. This will be for weekends only, though, as it costs 4 times more than regular milk :(

But...my wife is friends with a few local dairy farmers in the area (long time team mates in a sports club here), and she is going to ask if they'd be willing to let us have some :). We already get our eggs from them, so this might be doable. Never occurred to us to ask before (doh! :doh:). Hope this works out.

struth
15-01-2019, 08:32
Morning bliss
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/9dbe9e8754a971cc5b01cbc280fd36a7.jpg

struth
16-01-2019, 09:54
Baby brownhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190116/652d3fc652f69d96edbf62550c62158b.jpg

User211
16-01-2019, 19:23
Just arrived. In massive bags.

Free p&p is a major plus I think.

Will supply verdict in due course.
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struth
17-01-2019, 08:20
Worth getting up for https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/e9029869e3bb89978cb38e1b54917fd9.jpg

struth
17-01-2019, 08:27
Just arrived. In massive bags.

Free p&p is a major plus I think.

Will supply verdict in due course.
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keep us informed on the best crema makers;)

Jimbo
17-01-2019, 08:33
The very best Crema I have had comes from Lavazza crema e Aroma blend.

struth
17-01-2019, 08:38
The very best Crema I have had comes from Lavazza crema e Aroma blend.

yet to try that one Jim. Ive been using Rave's Italian Blend. It seems to be fairly consistent which is ideal as you dont have to keep mucking about.
will get round to it tho

Jimbo
17-01-2019, 08:53
yet to try that one Jim. Ive been using Rave's Italian Blend. It seems to be fairly consistent which is ideal as you dont have to keep mucking about.
will get round to it tho

We have tried all the Lavazza range in the office and the Crema e Aroma is king - super smooth flavour as well. In fact I need to make one now Grant.:)

User211
17-01-2019, 10:15
keep us informed on the best crema makers;)The highest crema producing coffee I have ever come across are the junk beans Bella Barista gave me to run in the Rocket Fausto. See above.

Unfortunately, they tasted like junk. Unsurprising. Sure make you think the grinder is great when you first get it, though.

Beobloke
17-01-2019, 10:16
So, coffee fans, apologies if this has already been covered, but where do we stand on the Aeropress?

My colleague knocked over and broke my work cafetière just before Christmas, and my sister gave me an Aeropress for Christmas to replace it. It takes a bit of practice to get the technique right and I find the ‘inverted’ method gives much better results but, overall - thumbs up:thumbsup:

Anyone else tried one?

Marco
17-01-2019, 10:59
We have tried all the Lavazza range in the office and the Crema e Aroma is king - super smooth flavour as well. In fact I need to make one now Grant.:)

Ah, not quite, lol... I took your advice, and before Xmas ordered some of the above from Amazon (indeed I'm sipping a cappuccino made from them now), and they're excellent. Like you say, super-smooth flavour, and with the right machine, makes a lovely crema - BUT...

In my opinion, these have the edge (100% Arabica), again available from Amazon (super-fast delivery too, from this seller):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/K8OQSR.jpg

Details here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coffee-Masters-Exclusive-Arabica-Espresso/dp/B00Q0CQYMU/ref=pd_nav_hcs_rp_1/258-2045966-5719522?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00Q0CQYMU&pd_rd_r=c44b294e-6f3c-4bc3-be92-c64cf96c2b49&pd_rd_w=6zofV&pd_rd_wg=FZtCQ&pf_rd_p=bc20807c-7537-48fb-b419-d0ff385ef3d6&pf_rd_r=BJ6SMTTRP8RZK3NRWSCM&psc=1&refRID=BJ6SMTTRP8RZK3NRWSCM

They tick all the Lavazza C&A boxes, in terms of smoothness, but have a greater depth of flavour [more of a rich, dark chocolatey, 'Arabica hit'], and the flavour also lingers longer in your mouth. Plus they lose a (very slight) acrid edge I found with the Lavazza, and produce a nicer colour when ground, which influences the colour and consistency of the crema.

I've tried a few different beans now from Lavazza, and all have been excellent, but what I've discovered, albeit in the short time I've been experimenting, is that when the smaller, more specialist producers get it right (as in this case with Coffee Masters), they have the edge on quality, presumably by being just that bit more selective about their beans!

Try the above, Jim (Grant or anyone else), just use a touch less ground coffee in your machine than normal, as the flavour of these beans is more intense, (you may also have to adjust the grind a little too, as the beans a little bigger than norm) and I guarantee you won't be disappointed!:cool:

Marco.

struth
17-01-2019, 11:14
Ah, not quite, lol... I took your advice, and before Xmas ordered some of the above from Amazon (indeed I'm sipping a cappuccino made from them now), and they're excellent. Like you say, super-smooth flavour, and with the right machine, makes a lovely crema - BUT...

In my opinion, these have the edge (100% Arabica), again available from Amazon (super-fast delivery too, from this seller):

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/K8OQSR.jpg

Details here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coffee-Masters-Exclusive-Arabica-Espresso/dp/B00Q0CQYMU/ref=pd_nav_hcs_rp_1/258-2045966-5719522?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00Q0CQYMU&pd_rd_r=c44b294e-6f3c-4bc3-be92-c64cf96c2b49&pd_rd_w=6zofV&pd_rd_wg=FZtCQ&pf_rd_p=bc20807c-7537-48fb-b419-d0ff385ef3d6&pf_rd_r=BJ6SMTTRP8RZK3NRWSCM&psc=1&refRID=BJ6SMTTRP8RZK3NRWSCM

They tick all the Lavazza C&A boxes, in terms of smoothness, but have a greater depth of flavour [more of a rich, dark chocolatey, 'Arabica hit'], and the flavour also lingers longer in your mouth. Plus they lose a (very slight) acrid edge I found with the Lavazza, and produce a nicer colour when ground, which influences the colour and consistency of the crema.

I've tried a few different beans now from Lavazza, and all have been excellent, but what I've discovered, albeit in the short time I've been experimenting, is that when the smaller, more specialist producers get it right (as in this case with Coffee Masters), they have the edge on quality, presumably by being just that bit more selective about their beans!

Try the above, Jim (Grant or anyone else), just use a touch less ground coffee in your machine than normal, as the flavour of these beans is more intense, (you may also have to adjust the grind a little too, as the beans a little bigger than norm) and I guarantee you won't be disappointed!:cool:

Marco.

coffee masters, yes ive got a bag of theirs coming in post, but not that one; forgot which it was but ordered to try. if its any good i will try that too. its cheaper than rave

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 11:20
I don't normally buy blends, have just ordered a 1 KG bag of this on Boss mans recommendation , Better be good or the boys will be round ;)

Also expecting this as well
El Salvador Los Nogales Soaked × 1
Large (1Kg) / Whole Bean

India Monsoon Malabar AA × 1
Large (1kg) / Whole Bean (Whole)

Thats 3KGs in total plus what I have already :eek: Better switch it on now :cool:

( Think we may need a Coffee Emoji soon :) )

User211
17-01-2019, 11:45
How long will 3 KG last you, Al?

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 12:07
How long will 3 KG last you, Al?

about 6 weeks , yes I know it will be out of its prime by then

User211
17-01-2019, 12:33
about 6 weeks , yes I know it will be out of its prime by thenNo that wasn't the point.

Just getting an idea of how much you drink. Curiosity, that's all.

Anyway 6 weeks old should be alright I reckon. More, even.

Marco
17-01-2019, 13:16
Lol - 1kg of beans lasts me about 3 months! But then I only drink one large cup of cappuccino a day...

When you guys open bags of beans, and use some to make coffee, do you immediately pour the rest into large airtight containers, or just seal up the bags? I always do the former:)

I use these chaps, which I get from Ikea, and keep things fresh for yonks:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/wvpCOn.jpg

Marco.

struth
17-01-2019, 13:37
i used to top mine with inert gas to keep oxygen off them :eyebrows: but the gas became expensive to a point its cheaper tossing whats left of the bag when they dont taste as good.

User211
17-01-2019, 15:18
i used to top mine with inert gas to keep oxygen off them :eyebrows: but the gas became expensive to a point its cheaper tossing whats left of the bag when they dont taste as good.Yup. Those containers don't stop oxidation. I have a load of them but don't use them for coffee.

CageyH
17-01-2019, 15:23
A large cup of “half a cup” :lol:

I use a Vacuvin storage jar when I open a large bag of beans.

struth
17-01-2019, 15:30
Yup. Those containers don't stop oxidation. I have a load of them but don't use them for coffee.

used the gas with kilner jars. worked well, but if you add up cost, its cheaper buying a big bag and disposing of when its past its best, if you havent drunk it all. reckon a kg lasts about 4/6 weeks depending on usage so not bad value

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 16:45
I only make a small opening in the bag , when I use some I squeeze out the air fold the top over several times then stick it down , Works for me :)

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 16:46
No that wasn't the point.

Just getting an idea of how much you drink. Curiosity, that's all.

Anyway 6 weeks old should be alright I reckon. More, even.

My coffee consumption is well OTT :eek: I only open the bags one at a time , Free P&P in bulk :)

Marco
17-01-2019, 18:56
Yup. Those containers don't stop oxidation...

Interesting... Haven't noticed any effect like that. The beans come out the same way as they went in:)

Marco.

Marco
17-01-2019, 18:56
A large cup of “half a cup” :lol:


Soz, I don't follow you...:hmm:

Marco.

CageyH
17-01-2019, 19:14
Cappuccino is traditionally a “small” drink with Latte being the larger one?

User211
17-01-2019, 19:25
Interesting... Haven't noticed any effect like that. The beans come out the same way as they went in:)

Marco.When I get some bad beans, I deliberately leave them to oxidise. Very often, sometimes after weeks, they come out better.

So don't worry about it.

Marco
17-01-2019, 19:41
Cappuccino is traditionally a “small” drink with Latte being the larger one?

Not really. It might be in France, but in Italy (especially in households) it's served during the morning in a traditional wide-mouthed cup, so folks can dip their thick, crusty bread in!:)

Like this:

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Mine:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/awxWaF.jpg

A latte is traditionally served like this, in a taller glass:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/nQF8v8.jpg

If I filled that latte glass up with the coffee in either of the cappuccino cups above (full), the amount of liquid would roughly be the same:cool:

Marco.

Marco
17-01-2019, 19:48
When I get some bad beans, I deliberately leave them to oxidise. Very often, sometimes after weeks, they come out better.

So don't worry about it.

No worries, dude:)

Marco.

Beobloke
17-01-2019, 19:49
So....errr...... no Aeropress thoughts, then anyone?!

Marco
17-01-2019, 19:51
Sorry, Adam, don't use one.

Marco.

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 20:31
So....errr...... no Aeropress thoughts, then anyone?!

Is that a rock group ?:scratch:

Audio Al
17-01-2019, 20:32
Marco , The first cup should fit just nice ;):)

CageyH
17-01-2019, 20:52
So....errr...... no Aeropress thoughts, then anyone?!

From limited use, they seem like a really handy device, capable of making a good coffee.

CageyH
17-01-2019, 20:54
Not really. It might be in France, but in Italy (especially in households) it's served during the morning in a traditional wide-mouthed cup, so folks can dip their thick, crusty bread in!:)

Like this:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/WCqGWH.jpg

Mine:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/awxWaF.jpg

A latte is traditionally served like this, in a taller glass:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/nQF8v8.jpg

If I filled that latte glass up with the coffee in either of the cappuccino cups above (full), the amount of liquid would roughly be the same:cool:

Marco.

I thought that it was the Latte is what was traditionally served at breakfast time Italian households :scratch:

Marco
17-01-2019, 21:04
Yes, that's correct. The only difference is that latte is milkier than cappuccino (the ratio of milk to coffee is higher), but in Italian households either would be served with breakfast in a large wide-mouthed cup, such as shown above. The tall latte glass I posted a picture of would only be used in bars and cafes:)

Basically, in poorer households, a milkier coffee would be taken, as milk is cheaper than coffee beans, so making proper cappuccino, which uses more coffee, would be more expensive and considered a luxury.

Marco.

Light Dependant Resistor
18-01-2019, 00:06
At one time looking quite experimental https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_OEsf-1qgY

now makes lots of sense, in terms of this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46845461
if we want our coffee in the future made from natural beans grown in natural spaces- as nature sort of intended - its up to us to make that happen.

Svend N
18-01-2019, 03:03
So....errr...... no Aeropress thoughts, then anyone?!

Adam,
There were a few posts about it a couple of months back, so there are at least a few guys here using it....
https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?54775-The-Coffeehouse-Baristi-Barista-Bariste&p=1031801#post1031801

Starting at post #1170, in case the link doesn't work.

User211
18-01-2019, 09:14
At one time looking quite experimental https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_OEsf-1qgY

now makes lots of sense, in terms of this: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46845461
if we want our coffee in the future made from natural beans grown in natural spaces- as nature sort of intended - its up to us to make that happen.

I wouldn't worry. It is a multi-gazillion pound industry. Money talks. If it really is an issue it will be taken care of.

struth
18-01-2019, 09:30
Nice onehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/101a379936c576d32f79473c7f800491.jpg

Audio Al
18-01-2019, 12:20
Nice slippers Grant :D

struth
18-01-2019, 12:21
Nice slippers Grant :D

they are my shoes.. saucy:D

struth
18-01-2019, 13:33
Coffee came. Not impressed with roast date. Doubt I will use again just for that reason alone.. 2 months old already.
Not the best way to impress new customershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/29640a25a06e4153f2a0210aaa5e60ed.jpg

Marco
18-01-2019, 16:00
Interesting... I don't know anything about roast dates, mate. What sort of date would you expect?:)

I'd be interested though, on your thoughts about the flavour.

Marco.

struth
18-01-2019, 16:01
Interesting... I don't know anything about roast dates, mate. What sort of date would you expect?:)

I'd be interested though, on your thoughts about the flavour.

Marco.

my rave stuff is roasted to order. give or take a few days. 2 months is a long time for beans; i prefer say 2 weeks to gas off

User211
18-01-2019, 17:02
Coffee came. Not impressed with roast date. Doubt I will use again just for that reason alone.. 2 months old already.
Not the best way to impress new customershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/29640a25a06e4153f2a0210aaa5e60ed.jpgBut is it nice?

Most specialist coffee roasters supply coffee roasted within a few days of you getting it. Sometimes on the day of the order!

I still think HasBean are the best of all I have tried.

struth
18-01-2019, 17:04
But is it nice?

Most specialist coffee roasters supply coffee roasted within a few days of you getting it. Sometimes on the day of the order!

I still think HasBean are the best of all I have tried.

not tried it yet. will over weekend

Marco
18-01-2019, 18:42
my rave stuff is roasted to order. give or take a few days. 2 months is a long time for beans...

Ah I see, good point.. Still something I'm learning!

Not sure I'll ever be enough of a coffee connoisseur to sufficiently care about such details, but who knows?:)

As long as the beans are fresh when I get them (as in not off/past their sell-by date), that's what mainly matters for me.

Like Justers though, it'll be interesting to see what you think of the taste. Those are different from the beans I'm using, but from the same supplier, and if they taste anywhere near as good, you'll not be disappointed.

Marco.

struth
19-01-2019, 09:08
Dark dark dark. Tasty thohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/87fa1bf5cab19dddb2c26641555fb68c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/6622e9d261baa16fa16534a3804981f8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/7be17ec6ce84c7acbb2b7b2aad8a6f93.jpg

struth
19-01-2019, 09:19
not bad, but a bit dark. ive mixed it 50/50 with my italian blend and see how that comes out.

Marco
19-01-2019, 10:51
Looks nice and rich... What's the blend? Being so dark, I doubt it's pure Arabica. Did you remember to adjust the grind a little and reduce the quantity of coffee that you'd normally use? I find that the flavour/colour you get from Coffee Masters beans is more intense than normal, so you need to use a little less ground coffee per cup.

Returning to this:


my rave stuff is roasted to order. give or take a few days. 2 months is a long time for beans; i prefer say 2 weeks to gas off

I've just checked the roasting date on my bag of Coffee Masters Exclusive Master Blend beans, which are pure Arabica... It was 15th December, which I received on 3rd January. So I suspect that you got a rogue batch - maybe getting rid of old stock?

If you order again, I'd message the seller, and mention that you want the beans with the latest roasting date possible. I'll certainly be doing that next time I order, just to make sure I don't get papped off with 2-month old beans!:)

Marco.

Jimbo
19-01-2019, 11:01
Just drinking a nice Cappuccino reading this!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4816/46799047711_75630ab406_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eitmqX)IMG_1197 (https://flic.kr/p/2eitmqX) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/162281319@N03/]

User211
19-01-2019, 11:03
Those beans look oily!

Been enjoying Extract's Dr Strangelove, as per posts above. However, every single one I have made tastes different. Good to very good, but different.

As neat Espresso (no milk) straight out the pack a few days ago it was very nice indeed. I think it is starting to settle down now.

This is the problem with really freshly roasted beans. They really do need time to settle, as I have said before.

It remains to be seen whether the rest of the different coffees from them maintain this sort of standard.

struth
19-01-2019, 11:10
the beans are much darker than that pic shows tbh. very glossy too. did a half and half with the italian after clearing what was on the burrs, but it wasnt much different.
its arabica and robusta. doesnt give the %

User211
19-01-2019, 11:43
the beans are much darker than that pic shows tbh. very glossy too. did a half and half with the italian after clearing what was on the burrs, but it wasnt much different.
its arabica and robusta. doesnt give the %So are you saying Marco's roaster is crap, then? In no uncertain terms?:)

(Big smile and quiet laugh here;))

struth
19-01-2019, 11:47
nope, they are quite decent for 2 month old beans; but not sure i will get through a kilo of them. i think i will add a third to my beans to improve the flavour of the italian ones maybe.. they are good but quite strong. i managed to lift 2 speakers after 2 cups:eyebrows:

User211
19-01-2019, 11:48
Ah his rep is not as tarnished as perhaps I thought it might have bean (see what I did there?);)

struth
19-01-2019, 11:51
i did old been;)

Marco
19-01-2019, 11:51
the beans are much darker than that pic shows tbh. very glossy too. did a half and half with the italian after clearing what was on the burrs, but it wasnt much different.
its arabica and robusta. doesnt give the %

Ah yes, it'll be the Robusta giving it that darkness, and also a touch of acidity. I've had that mix before, from Coffee Masters, and can say with certainty that the Exclusive Master Blend variety (100% Arabica) of theirs is much better!

Main thing is that the 2-month old roasting date you got isn't the norm:)

Marco.

Marco
19-01-2019, 11:56
they are good but quite strong. i managed to lift 2 speakers after 2 cups:eyebrows:

Nice one. Look out for another interesting side-effect, in terms of optimising 'middle-leg' stiffness:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
19-01-2019, 12:00
Nice one. Look out for another interesting side-effect, in terms of optimising 'middle-leg' stiffness:eyebrows:

Marco.

need more than coffee; a nice parlour maid maybe tho:D

Audio Al
19-01-2019, 16:30
Just opened my bag of Coffee masters Blend Beans " roasted 23/11/18 " had a first cup , Will need time to adjust to the flavour , Has a slight bitterness , seems to have less creamer ( If thats how you spell it ) , strange smell ?

Do we have the Emoje yet ( Coffee Coffee )

struth
20-01-2019, 08:40
Morning coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/f34dab39421a4615ccce84ec36302eb9.jpg

User211
20-01-2019, 10:09
See bottom for list of roasters used by Extract.

There is a chance this is my new fave roaster.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/4d88b7aab2921cad29ae2d30c3e6fad8.jpg

User211
20-01-2019, 10:12
Cherry, lemon and marzipan though?

Not once have I detected any trace of such flavours.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/0f18cc270e32bad7841dba162e53df97.jpg

CageyH
20-01-2019, 11:20
It all tastes like coffee to me.

User211
20-01-2019, 11:46
It all tastes like coffee to me.Bad as wine tasters.

As soon as you try and describe a flavour, you are in a land of pretense.

Much like audio reviews.

Marco
20-01-2019, 14:27
Morning coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/f34dab39421a4615ccce84ec36302eb9.jpg

That looks top notch, mate. Which beans (or combination thereof) did you use?:)

Marco.

Marco
20-01-2019, 14:28
See bottom for list of roasters used by Extract.

There is a chance this is my new fave roaster.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190120/4d88b7aab2921cad29ae2d30c3e6fad8.jpg

Do extract sell pure Arabica beans? If so, a link to such would be good, and I'll try them next time:cool:

Marco.

struth
20-01-2019, 14:29
That looks top notch, mate. Which beans (or combination thereof) did you use?:)

Marco.

was 40% the new ones, 60% my old Italian blend.. was better than before. will try a 30/70 split next time just to see. always worth blending beans, even blending blends..lol

Marco
20-01-2019, 14:50
Yup, exactly my experience.

Marco.

User211
20-01-2019, 18:39
Do extract sell pure Arabica beans? If so, a link to such would be good, and I'll try them next time:cool:

Marco.I think they are probably all arabica.

https://extractcoffee.co.uk/

No guarantees I haven't even finished a 250g bag. The website is cool, though. Their marketing is excellent. Have a good read when there.

I do doubt the rest of my order is sub-standard. They are obviously complete coffee junkies.

struth
20-01-2019, 18:54
Blends usually have some robusta in. Usually Indian and s American. Not many single origin beans will be robusta. Its too potent in sour caffeine.
Twi e the strength of aribica beans that also have all the sweet lipids. That's why good arabica is dear and robusta, which is easy to grow is cheap

User211
20-01-2019, 19:06
Blends usually have some robusta in. Usually Indian and s American. Not many single origin beans will be robusta. Its too potent in sour caffeine.
Twi e the strength of aribica beans that also have all the sweet lipids. That's why good arabica is dear and robusta, which is easy to grow is cheap

Probably true re robusta generally, but these aren't cheap coffees, Grant, and where they are blends, the origin is identified.

Go single origin if you doubt it, Marco. Just read the descriptions to determine which are.

struth
20-01-2019, 19:09
A bit of robusta gives decent crema too but too much and it goes bitter

User211
20-01-2019, 19:16
Extract do coffee courses. I might sign up for one, but they don't start til March.

Might be a good day out, albeit a £95 day out.

struth
20-01-2019, 19:23
Sure it would be interesting. Can never know enough.. It's a big subject

CageyH
20-01-2019, 19:36
Extract do coffee courses. I might sign up for one, but they don't start til March.

Might be a good day out, albeit a £95 day out.

I think you would gain a lot from it.
If I still lived in Bristol, I would certainly sign up for something like that.

Marco
20-01-2019, 23:43
Blends usually have some robusta in. Usually Indian and s American. Not many single origin beans will be robusta. Its too potent in sour caffeine.
Twi e the strength of aribica beans that also have all the sweet lipids. That's why good arabica is dear and robusta, which is easy to grow is cheap

Any chance of translating that into English?:scratch:;)

Marco.

Marco
20-01-2019, 23:49
Probably true re robusta generally, but these aren't cheap coffees, Grant, and where they are blends, the origin is identified.

Go single origin if you doubt it, Marco. Just read the descriptions to determine which are.

The off-putting thing about their website is the flowery language describing their coffee. I'd rather decide myself what any specific coffee tastes like, simply by being told which beans are used!

Marco.

User211
21-01-2019, 02:14
The off-putting thing about their website is the flowery language describing their coffee. I'd rather decide myself what any specific coffee tastes like, simply by being told which beans are used!

Marco.They are all at it, though.

The best way to see if it is close to their description or not is a neat Espresso shot I reckon.

struth
21-01-2019, 07:55
If it smells like coffee and tastes like coffee chances are it's coffee[emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/23234ab4364985ef582c60c720895f3c.jpg