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Marco
23-09-2021, 10:13
Ah, shweety, I always enjoy seeing your thick, creamy spurts!:eyebrows:

Must post one up of my own later...

Btw, I was out for lunch with my dad yesterday at a nice little country pub, and we finished off with a couple of double espressos, only to find out that (unbeknown to me) there was a specialist coffee roasting company just down the road!

See here: https://lostbarncoffee.co.uk/product-category/whole-beans/

We had their '1839 Espresso Blend' and it was lovely, but as you can see from their shop, they've got some other interesting stuff! It's bad timing, unfortunately, as I've just had a load in from my usual supplier, but as soon as that's finished I'll be trying some beans from Lost Barn.

The good thing is, I can collect it from their shop, which is only a 15-min drive from my house, thus save on carriage charges!:)

Marco,

struth
23-09-2021, 10:16
looks pricey..

struth
23-09-2021, 10:27
Just made one actually.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/0fa9d488c5a92bc1f87cf2b829b792d5.jpg

Marco
23-09-2021, 10:29
looks pricey..

A little, but if the quality is good, and remember there'll be no postage costs!:)

Marco.

Alex_UK
25-09-2021, 13:37
I only drink black coffee (fresh not instant) so it’s not much to look at (freshly ground Rich Italian from Taylor’s of Harrogate today) but do you like my “weekend” mug? [emoji846]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210925/581804ba867c18255b0a42dd8139db5e.jpg

Gazjam
27-09-2021, 14:01
What Espresso machines y'all using?

Figure I've had enough Nescafe in my life.
Enjoyed my Mokka pot, up till "someone" (i.e. Me) lost the internal filter.
Kettles on the fritz too, its time.

Have a good grinder already, Sage smart grinder pro, so that box already ticked.
Have a couple of specific models in mind, and will be speaking with the guys at Bella Barista on whats best for me.
Been reading forums too, getting a general picture of it all.
Curious what general usage of the AOS Coffee Mafia is.

Ta.

Barry
27-09-2021, 14:12
Can't help you there Gary as I never drink expresso.

I use a Mokka pot and the beans come from Cameroon which I will grind, enough for a few days at a time.

But I'm sure either Grant or Marco will regale you with the recommended paraphernalia needed to make espresso coffee.

struth
27-09-2021, 14:16
Hard to bypass sage machines and this dual boiler will do you nicely; at a price. ive the cheaper one and its been faultless really.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sage-BES920UK-Boiler-Espresso-Machine/dp/B00G6FVTTE/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=sage+espresso&qid=1632751644&qsid=258-8059875-0522349&sr=8-8&sres=B00NPYDJ6U%2CB077YZXR1W%2CB07GB2JVD7%2CB079GV 6RX7%2CB00KNXNS7G%2CB00G6FVTTE%2CB07KXCTRF6%2CB079 QFVWPR%2CB072Q22S3J%2CB07MKZMKGG%2CB07Q84SRQ8%2CB0 7NPDSPKV%2CB01NGTI2JU%2CB00CI32S9I%2CB08P1CK4C6%2C B08P1BLQ8P%2CB00COFPWWA%2CB08MTPJH5B%2CB08QW6CWWB% 2CB0832GCPL3&srpt=COFFEE_MAKER


or if you want italian style tubes etc and german manufacture then this ecm is a good un and on my list.


https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/ecm-mechanika-v-slim.html

struth
27-09-2021, 14:21
if you fancy an all in one; and i fancy this... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sage-SES990BTR-Oracle-Touch-Truffle/dp/B07Q5YQF7G/ref=sr_1_2?adgrpid=51886609583&dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw18WKBhCUARIsAFiW7JwzkC96xld17iKtDbcX ztQC4qZt2u7Ag0dnldL8UnCmZHrv3-QhdXwaAlmsEALw_wcB&hvadid=259141387322&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007406&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5706705305447134500&hvtargid=kwd-327092751582&hydadcr=19170_1810909&keywords=sage+oracle+touch&qid=1632752454&qsid=258-8059875-0522349&sr=8-2&sres=B079QFVWPR%2CB07Q5YQF7G%2CB00KNXNS7G%2CB00G6F VTTE%2CB079GV6RX7%2CB07MKZMKGG%2CB07SYY2FXD%2CB07K YDTTKZ%2CB077YZXR1W%2CB07PY42BRC%2CB07NPDSPKV%2CB0 72Q22S3J%2CB077ZK2K9D%2CB07Q84SRQ8%2CB076DNRT3H%2C B07B2X1VXZ%2CB079TTDVCD%2CB00I6E7CWG%2CB00NPYDJ6U% 2CB0912K9C7K&srpt=COFFEE_MAKER

Marco
27-09-2021, 14:27
I only drink black coffee (fresh not instant) so it’s not much to look at (freshly ground Rich Italian from Taylor’s of Harrogate today) but do you like my “weekend” mug? [emoji846]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210925/581804ba867c18255b0a42dd8139db5e.jpg

Nice... Is it vintage? Looks like it:)

Btw, your fresh black coffee looks really nice (I can tell by the depth of the colour, that it'll have had a rich flavour). The only reason we can make ours look 'fancy' is because being pressurised machines, they develop crema, and also nice frothy milk if you like cappuccinos!

But, as Gaz knows with his Moka pot, you can still make tasty black coffee without a thick crema.

Marco.

Marco
27-09-2021, 14:36
Yup, wot Grant says... Since you've got a Sage girnder, Gaz, I'd go for a matching coffee machine. The only reason I bought the Smegster is because I find it more stylish, which for us (princess especially), in our type of kitchen, is important - and it also makes a great cup of coffee:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/coffee-machines-and-accessories/coffee-machines/smeg-ecf01bluk-coffee-machine-black-10162333-pdt.html?store=2222&=--present--&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2928af81-b29b-476c-a180-ac5de265a98e&istItemId=xaraqrqli&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~2043+(Shopping+Ads)+SDA+SKA+Coffee+Ma chines+-+Generic~All+Coffee+Machines~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700062090802033&tgtid=2043+(Shopping+Ads)+SDA+SKA+Coffee+Machines+-+Generic&gclid=Cj0KCQjw18WKBhCUARIsAFiW7JybyNaMzebDmGVeCA8s 3VeR7V_QDG0_EECBy_uWUwd0fgQBIEQp3wQaAkZDEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Marco.

Gazjam
27-09-2021, 14:51
It'll be a dual boiler type anyway I think,
looked at heat exchanger units, swings and roundabouts, but like the idea of fast heat up in the morning, and no messing about waiting for steam to get up to pressure.

Those E61 grouphead Italian machines DO look nice though, I like the old school, hands on "Flood the Engine room" look they have. :)
One of the machines I looked last time I was shopping at was the Rocket Appartamento, but hitting the coffee forums recently its not quite as big a deal as it was a couple of years ago, when I last looked at these.

Got a mokka pot instead to see if I had the level of "arsedness" to go down the espresso route.
Grinding beans n stuff, and its absolutely worth it.

Convenience, flexibility and consistency is what I'm looking at.
Low maintenance is a factor too, I know these aren't plug n play, but some need more faff than others, the Heat Exchangers in particular it seems to me.

So dual boiler it is.

Gazjam
27-09-2021, 14:52
Smeg machine looks a nice bit of kit, can appreciate the design, especially in black.
all of my other appliances in the kitchen are black also.


Yup, wot Grant says... Since you've got a Sage girnder, Gaz, I'd go for a matching coffee machine. The only reason I bought the Smegster is because I find it more stylish, which for us (princess especially), in our type of kitchen, is important - and it also makes a great cup of coffee:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/coffee-machines-and-accessories/coffee-machines/smeg-ecf01bluk-coffee-machine-black-10162333-pdt.html?store=2222&=--present--&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2928af81-b29b-476c-a180-ac5de265a98e&istItemId=xaraqrqli&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~2043+(Shopping+Ads)+SDA+SKA+Coffee+Ma chines+-+Generic~All+Coffee+Machines~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700062090802033&tgtid=2043+(Shopping+Ads)+SDA+SKA+Coffee+Machines+-+Generic&gclid=Cj0KCQjw18WKBhCUARIsAFiW7JybyNaMzebDmGVeCA8s 3VeR7V_QDG0_EECBy_uWUwd0fgQBIEQp3wQaAkZDEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Marco.

struth
27-09-2021, 14:59
they do do the sage dual in black but its rare.

struth
27-09-2021, 15:02
tbh the standard sage ive got is really all you need. its quick enough and very reliable. for money its best machine on market

Marco
27-09-2021, 15:04
Smeg machine looks a nice bit of kit, can appreciate the design, especially in black.
all of my other appliances in the kitchen are black also.

It's a great machine, mate. I'm just not into the rather 'samey' stainless steel look of most coffee makers. As a coffee maker though, the Sage is better:)

Marco.

struth
27-09-2021, 15:30
It's a great machine, mate. I'm just not into the rather 'samey' stainless steel look of most coffee makers. As a coffee maker though, the Sage is better:)

Marco.

if youve a smart kitchen or are in it all time then yes getting it all looking matced etc is great; i'd probably do same. but im not in kitchen that much so it can be any colour for me. the shiney stainless and all the pipes look great, but tbh a sage does job just as well; maybe better for most of us that are not baristas

Barry
27-09-2021, 16:06
I would always be wary of consuming anything from something called "SMEG". In particular the cream off the top of the milk you have stored in your SMEG refrigerator! :D

Marco
27-09-2021, 16:40
Lol yes, but what if you're a fan of Red Dwarf?:D

Marco.

Marco
27-09-2021, 16:45
if youve a smart kitchen or are in it all time then yes getting it all looking matced etc is great; i'd probably do same. but im not in kitchen that much so it can be any colour for me. the shiney stainless and all the pipes look great, but tbh a sage does job just as well; maybe better for most of us that are not baristas

As I said, I can't fault the Sage's coffee-making credentials, but for me, all stainless steel-made coffee machines (within the same price bracket) look too much the same, and you know we like to be different, which is why ours is red!:D

Gaz, being a bit of a style-ista (anyone who drives an Alfa has a certain panache), might like the Smeg, in black. As a coffee maker, I'd say it's 90% as good as the Sage, really only being a little let down by the quality of its milk frother, which needs 'worked at' a little, in order to produce similar results to the Sage.

Just my view:cool:

Marco.

Marco
27-09-2021, 16:52
they do do the sage dual in black but its rare.

That's the problem with homogenizing everything, in order to (I guess understandably) cut costs, rather than offering people real choice. I think the Smeg comes in at least four different colours I can think of.

Of course for many, including your good self, that's a non-issue, but Del and I both spend an inordinate amount of time in the kitchen, and of course spent a lot of dosh designing it from scratch to our spec, and so for us it's important that all the little 'knick-knacks', as it were, fit in aesthetically with the look we've created:)

Marco.

Barry
27-09-2021, 17:10
But I am a fan of Red Dwarf. Hence my comment on the word "smeg": 'smeg head' and 'smegging' were Dave Lister's favourite nominative and adjectival expletives, etymologically derived from smegma.

It's just unfortunate that the Italian company Smalterie Metallurgiche Emiliane Guastalla abbreviated the name to SMEG, without checking for any embarrassing connotations.

(The manufacturer of the cough sweets known as 'Zubes' had to change the name, because of the advertising slogan "Go suck a Zube", which was considered offensive in certain Middle Eastern countries: 'zube' being a vulgar colloquialism for penis. :lol: )

Marco
27-09-2021, 17:14
Lol - I know, there's lots of that stuff around... In Italy, back in the 80s, there was a popular make of gum, called 'BUM', which came in a little plastic bubble container, housing a free gift (for kids).

And on the outside, it read (translated from Italian): 'Have a look inside your 'BUM' for a big surprise!!':D

Marco.

Barry
27-09-2021, 17:34
Lol - I know, there's lots of that stuff around... In Italy, back in the 80s, there was a popular make of gum, called 'BUM', which came in a little plastic bubble container, housing a free gift (for kids).

And on the outside, it read (translated from Italian): 'Have a look inside your 'BUM' for a big surprise!!':D

Marco.

:lol: Now that did make me laugh out loud! Good one Marco.

Marco
27-09-2021, 17:47
Lol, we aim to please:D

Marco.

Gazjam
27-09-2021, 18:22
Not forgetting "AIDS" diet supplements in the 80's.

Things kinda happened, and they had to have a rethink branding wise!

guy
27-09-2021, 18:29
I use a Delonghi Dedica EC685M. Cheap, easy and doesn't take up much space - also available in red :)

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/coffee-machines-and-accessories/coffee-machines/delonghi-dedica-ec685r-coffee-machine-red-10172670-pdt.html

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 19:00
Nice... Is it vintage? Looks like it:)

Btw, your fresh black coffee looks really nice (I can tell by the depth of the colour, that it'll have had a rich flavour). The only reason we can make ours look 'fancy' is because being pressurised machines, they develop crema, and also nice frothy milk if you like cappuccinos!

But, as Gaz knows with his Moka pot, you can still make tasty black coffee without a thick crema.

Marco.

The mugs were from a lovely little grockle shop in North Norfolk last year on holiday, one for each of us for our initials.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210927/1b7586090d5ee1e0fee811bf293c7ce3.jpg

I don’t like milk or cream except in cooking and so I just use a metal double walled cafetière - keeps it nice and warm.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 19:04
(This is who makes the mugs: https://yvonneellen.com/ )

Gazjam
27-09-2021, 19:08
Fancy!

Looks the biz Alex.

Marco
27-09-2021, 19:13
The mugs were from a lovely little grockle shop in North Norfolk last year on holiday, one for each of us for our initials.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210927/1b7586090d5ee1e0fee811bf293c7ce3.jpg

I don’t like milk or cream except in cooking and so I just use a metal double walled cafetière - keeps it nice and warm.

Nice - I like quirky, handmade things. In terms of the cream thing though, you do realise that 'crema' has nothing to do with the cream you're talking about?;)

Marco.

Alex_UK
27-09-2021, 19:38
Nice - I like quirky, handmade things. In terms of the cream thing though, you do realise that 'crema' has nothing to do with the cream you're talking about?;)

Marco.

Yes of course, I understand a crema is from the pressure, but not something I’m really bothered with as it sort of looks a bit dairy! Wouldn’t bother me in a cafe or restaurant but not something I particularly aspire to at home. I have thought about a bean to cup machine but Sue doesn’t like fresh coffee so never really worried as I am happy with my pot. [emoji846]

Marco
27-09-2021, 19:47
Lol - no worries, it's all down to your own preference. However, crema isn't 'dairy'; it's really just an indication of a richly-flavoured coffee, freshly ground with good beans. Within a few sips, the crema (what's left of it that hasn't stuck to the sides of the cup) mostly disappears, so there's not much sensation of 'cream':)

Marco.

struth
28-09-2021, 09:02
Dark morning in livingroom but coffee is light.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210928/f2b33e5930d6100993982d86fab423e7.jpg

Gazjam
28-09-2021, 09:50
Hey Grant,

Any reccies for things like Tampers, mats, milk jugs and the like? :scratch:

struth
28-09-2021, 09:58
Hey Grant,

Any reccies for things like Tampers, mats, milk jugs and the like? :scratch:

these are good. you get them different diameters. they are depth adjustable. been using one for a while along with the tamper that comes with the sage which is quite good.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08BG2LY5Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

a knock box is worth getting too.

Marco
28-09-2021, 10:18
Remember though, lest Gaz gets the wrong idea, that what you've linked to (and I agree is good, as I've also got one) is a coffee distributor, not really a tamper, which as you've stated, for best results, needs used in conjunction with a dedicated tamper!:)

For a tamper I use something very similar to this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Calibrated-Coffee-Tamper-51mm-Espresso/dp/B07FF34LGH/ref=asc_df_B07FF34LGH/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=232026297330&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3020123965473302578&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007464&hvtargid=pla-488598538689&psc=1

Calibrated I find is best, as it means you exert the same amount of pressure on the coffee grinds, time after time (rather than varied with a non-calibrated design, meaning that the harder or lighter you press, the stronger or weaker the strength of the coffee), thus giving more consistent results.

As for milk jugs, I use one of these, which is really solid and nicely made: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bialetti-Bricco-Stainless-Steel-Silver/dp/B06ZXSY3H5/ref=asc_df_B06ZXSY3H5/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256194461012&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16638906336026221488&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007464&hvtargid=pla-422519639671&psc=1

Marco.

struth
28-09-2021, 10:21
tbh it does tamp if adjusted deep enough but i do start and finish with another tamper anyway.

Marco
28-09-2021, 10:32
Well, it flattens the grinds a little in use, if that's what you mean, but for me isn't heavy enough to work effectively as a standalone tamper, no matter how deeply adjusted.

Marco.

Gazjam
28-09-2021, 11:50
Thanks chaps.

From Barista vids watched online, a lot of them use both?
Probably the route for me.

@marco,
That Bialetti milk jug looks great,
nice Italian design from a famous Italian coffee company.
Used one of their manual stovetop milk frothers with my Mokka pot, great quality too.

@Grant
thanks mate, 1 question about the distributor you linked to?
If I went for, say, a 58mm grouphead machine, does the diameter of it matter?
think your Sage is 54m wondering if for a 58.. it might not be suitable?

Ta both.

struth
28-09-2021, 12:02
Thanks chaps.

From Barista vids watched online, a lot of them use both?
Probably the route for me.

@marco,
That Bialetti milk jug looks great,
nice Italian design from a famous Italian coffee company.
Used one of their manual stovetop milk frothers with my Mokka pot, great quality too.

@Grant
thanks mate, 1 question about the distributor you linked to?
If I went for, say, a 58mm grouphead machine, does the diameter of it matter?
think your Sage is 54m wondering if for a 58.. it might not be suitable?

Ta both.

you would get a bigger one. 58mm if thats the inside diameter. there are lots of ones like one i showed. i use a tamper to get the coffee just under the rim then the distributer set to depth i want. a quick bang on surface, then use tamper for a press and polish.

Gazjam
28-09-2021, 12:22
"Quick bang on the Surface" ya say?

Marco
28-09-2021, 12:23
Thanks chaps.

From Barista vids watched online, a lot of them use both?
Probably the route for me.


From my experience, using both is the way to go for best results. Therefore, a distributor (to distribute the grains evenly in the filter basket, so that you get a more even and consistent pour) and a calibrated tamper (must be same diameter as the filter basket used for the machine) for compressing the grains with a consistent pressure, to extract maximum flavour and crema.


@marco,
That Bialetti milk jug looks great,
nice Italian design from a famous Italian coffee company.
Used one of their manual stovetop milk frothers with my Mokka pot, great quality too.


Yup, and the milk jug has a nice thinly tapered spout, which is ideal for creating latte art, if you get into that, but also for producing a nice silky finish with your frothed milk.


@Grant
thanks mate, 1 question about the distributor you linked to?
If I went for, say, a 58mm grouphead machine, does the diameter of it matter?
think your Sage is 54m wondering if for a 58.. it might not be suitable?


If Grant hasn't answered already by the time I post this reply, then your distributor or tamper MUST be the same diameter as the filter basket, which fits the 'group head' of your machine, so make sure that's the case before you buy either!:)

Marco.

Marco
28-09-2021, 12:33
"Quick bang on the Surface" ya say?

My method is quite different from Grant's, although I couldn't say if it's better or worse, but it works well for me. If you're interested, let me know:)

Marco.

struth
28-09-2021, 12:45
"Quick bang on the Surface" ya say?Ya bang porta on table. It allows any grains that have gone up side to fall back then a quick press and polish with a tamper and it's bang on. I find pressing with tamper won't make it compress more as the gadget if adjusted right and correct dose used it will be tight
But you can try if you want. Obviously if coffee is ground finer it will compress more but will also increase resistance to water
It's a fine line

Marco
28-09-2021, 13:03
Here's one of my efforts, to show you what the Smegster can do:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/5sfJdf.jpg

...and with chocolate added:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/nUaITD.jpg

Marco.

struth
28-09-2021, 13:42
a 58mm one. there will be more tho.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coffee-Distributor-Leveler-tool-Distribution/dp/B077BZ4CV6/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2EBSQKO907L4R&dchild=1&keywords=coffee+distributor&qid=1632836486&sprefix=coffee+distr%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-4-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTVRYQUdLVVRCUVpBJ mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTMxMTU3MUZIVUpFOE1ESTdMUSZlbmN yeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjA1MzI4SzAyOU1TTFpEWjg2JndpZGdld E5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm9 0TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Gazjam
28-09-2021, 15:31
Ok,

Been hitting coffee forums big chunk of my day today (off work for Sept weekend),
decided whats important and works for me ...and whats irrelevant.

Head hurts from staring at a screen,
but just pulled the trigger on a thing.

Ticks all my boxes, took a while but I got there.

Photo up when it arrives. (Its Italian 'natch.)
:)

Marco
29-09-2021, 10:30
Lol - thought you might go Italian... Let us know how you get on. Italian car, Italian espresso machine... Now you just need an Italian girlfriend!

I warn you though, they can be *very* high maintenance:eyebrows:

Anyway, I take it this was a 'no':


My method is quite different from Grant's, although I couldn't say if it's better or worse, but it works well for me. If you're interested, let me know:)


;)

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 10:35
this would be very gary:eyebrows:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0432/0431/3243/products/appt_serie_copper_510x@2x.progressive.jpg?v=162443 6856

Marco
29-09-2021, 10:38
Lol - perhaps... But as a total novice, would he be able to use it?:D;)

One of my pet hates are guys who love 'boys toys' (mainly for their looks), but don't know how to use them - especially 'posh' espresso machines that simply end up as ornaments in the kitchen!:doh:

If you're going to invest in a machine like that, then don't be a ponce, and MAKE SURE you know how to get the most out of it!!:exactly:

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 10:49
Lol - perhaps... But as a total novice, would he be able to use it?:D;)

One of my pet hates are guys who love 'boys toys' (mainly for their looks), but don't know how to use them - especially 'posh' espresso machines that simply end up as ornaments in the kitchen!:doh:

If you're going to invest in a machine like that, then don't be a ponce, and MAKE SURE you know how to get the most out of it!!:exactly:

Marco.

sure he will. i knows gaz and he will go on a course if he needs to... there is a lot to learn, but not all at once

Marco
29-09-2021, 11:05
I agree, and that's what I'd expect of him - and if you really want to do it right, there's loads to learn. However, as you know, we've had others here before with 'all the gear and no idea'!;)

Marco.

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:15
So am I! :D

Will take a time to get my feet wet with it and get everything dialled in to suit me.
Best practices n such.
Walking before I run.
Stock settings are pretty good though I hear.

Just out of curiosity Marco,
How do you do yours?


Lol - thought you might go Italian... Let us know how you get on. Italian car, Italian espresso machine... Now you just need an Italian girlfriend!

I warn you though, they can be *very* high maintenance:eyebrows:

Anyway, I take it this was a 'no':



;)

Marco.

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:19
sure he will. i knows gaz and he will go on a course if he needs to... there is a lot to learn, but not all at once

Your right Grant,
Local college to runs them.

Double bonus,
'educational discount' on software :eek:

Have 'mad skillz' at picking things up quick, not concerned...it's supposed to be fun, right?
S'all good.

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:22
Lol - perhaps... But as a total novice, would he be able to use it?:D;)

One of my pet hates are guys who love 'boys toys' (mainly for their looks), but don't know how to use them - especially 'posh' espresso machines that simply end up as ornaments in the kitchen!:doh:

If you're going to invest in a machine like that, then don't be a ponce, and MAKE SURE you know how to get the most out of it!!:exactly:

Marco.

Ok...
Thanks for that! :lol:

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:23
Lovely Italian ornament that ;)

Appartamento in my Top 2.
Simpler to use Marco than it might first look.

Came down to ad/disad_vantages/ of E61 group head machines vs double boiler jobs.
Maintenance, usability, features yada yada.

Close run,
Happy with my choice.



this would be very gary:eyebrows:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0432/0431/3243/products/appt_serie_copper_510x@2x.progressive.jpg?v=162443 6856

struth
29-09-2021, 11:26
its got black:eyebrows: its got copper:eyebrows: its got tubes:D

Marco
29-09-2021, 11:28
Ok...
Thanks for that! :lol:

Nae bother, yer welcome!:D

I'll outline my numpty's guide to making espresso later, along with a few tips I've picked up over the last year or so.

Btw, one thing you'll need for best results, no matter how good your tap water is (and hasn't been discussed so far), is a water filter - makes a significant difference to the taste of coffee produced, and also helps keep the internals of your machine clean:)

Marco.

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:43
its got black:eyebrows: its got copper:eyebrows: its got tubes:D

Seems vaguely familiar... :D

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 11:46
Yup.
As with Hifi,
Everything counts.

As with my hifi
I'm very thorough :thumbsup:

S'all good.
Course will be interesting!




Nae bother, yer welcome!:D

I'll outline my numpty's guide to making espresso later, along with a few tips I've picked up over the last year or so.

Btw, one thing you'll need for best results, no matter how good your tap water is (and hasn't been discussed so far), is a water filter - makes a significant difference to the taste of coffee produced, and also helps keep the internals of your machine clean:)

Marco.

Marco
29-09-2021, 11:53
Indeed, as you know the 'wee differences' all add up!:)

For a water filter I just use a BRITA jug, and fill up the coffee machine with water from that: https://www.amazon.co.uk/BRITA-Marella-filter-starter-Fridge/dp/B01MZZI7OI/ref=asc_df_B01MZZI7OI/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256142088868&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4185680112394676723&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007464&hvtargid=pla-445278992314&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

The other thing, which is *massively* important, and not been discussed much so far, is getting the grind right on your beans, and how best to go about it. That's a whole separate subject on its own!

Also, have you sourced a good supplier yet for your beans?

My advice is to go local, if you can, so that you get them as quickly as possible once they've been roasted, and only use companies that roast to order (print a date on the bag) and ship next day. You'll never get the best results using so-called 'fresh beans' that were roasted sometime back in nineteen-canteen...

That's why you should avoid buying beans from supermarkets!

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 12:26
Coffee time.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210929/88ce9a8c87abfc0a647333daaa3abde5.jpg

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 12:27
Spot on Marco.

It'll be a case of sorting out a coffee Subscription from somewhere.
Granty's the man for that.

Supermarket bags OK to get started, working out how to dial it in.
Don't wanna waste the good stuff at first!

Marco
29-09-2021, 12:33
Yeah, defo. When I was in Glasgow, I always used these dudes: https://www.thomsonscoffee.com/

Long established family-run business.. The quality was always excellent:)

Marco.

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 12:53
Less Yakkin' more drinking! :thumbsup:



Coffee time.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210929/88ce9a8c87abfc0a647333daaa3abde5.jpg

Gazjam
29-09-2021, 12:59
Yeah, defo. When I was in Glasgow, I always used these dudes: https://www.thomsonscoffee.com/

Long established family-run business.. The quality was always excellent:)

Marco.

Thanks Man,
Will check them out.

struth
29-09-2021, 13:11
i use Wogan... https://wogancoffee.com/about-us/

Marco
29-09-2021, 13:42
I know they're good, but why not try a supplier in Scotland, since that's where you live?:)

That's why I like to use Welsh ones, or English ones in our area, as we're close to the borders.

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 13:58
i like their coffee, and prices too. free delivery too if over i think 20 quid and im always over that. guess after trying umpteen different ones i settled on them(for now) if i find anything better i will try them tho.

there is one in wales ive to try tho

Marco
29-09-2021, 14:01
Sure, and all that makes sense. It's just that there's probably a Scottish coffee supplier somewhere that would give you the same quality of products and service:)

Marco.

struth
29-09-2021, 14:04
Sure, and all that makes sense. It's just that there's probably a Scottish coffee supplier somewhere that would give you the same quality of products and service:)

Marco.

last time i looked at local ones they were pricy tbh. did you like my cat bookends in the film thread?

Marco
29-09-2021, 14:12
Not seen them mate, will take a look.

You could always give Thomsons a go sometime (the link I gave to Gaz), as they didn't seem pricey, and I can vouch for their quality:)

Marco.

struth
30-09-2021, 09:12
Thursday's cheermeuphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210930/6d0abc9e45729ce6b0adc98a602af8ac.jpg

Gazjam
30-09-2021, 10:00
Email to say large brown box being delivered tommorow.

ooh..

Marco
30-09-2021, 10:02
So it's not the blow-up doll, then?:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
30-09-2021, 10:05
Email to say large brown box being delivered tommorow.

ooh..

and thats just the tamper :eek:

Gazjam
01-10-2021, 11:01
Posties dropped off the new kettle...

https://i.imgur.com/GXX4aJn.jpg

struth
01-10-2021, 11:16
ooh a lelit... is that the bianca?

Gazjam
01-10-2021, 11:27
Anyone speak Italian?

https://i.imgur.com/KyI7SeZ.jpg

struth
01-10-2021, 11:30
looks more like an elizebeth

Gazjam
01-10-2021, 11:33
ooh a lelit... is that the bianca?

Bianca's nice, but still had to eat this Month!

Her Sister Grant,
Elizabeth.

https://i.imgur.com/v9lPDhf.jpg

struth
01-10-2021, 12:46
does it light up?

struth
01-10-2021, 13:19
Cleaned out machine today.. It's been a while and I had noticed a decline in quality.

Much more crema and its of a better quality toohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211001/8587a3827ef515dc762fc83d17edded3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211001/d3f5bff6284e66304e5f6cfce087adc3.jpg

Gazjam
01-10-2021, 13:40
It does, yeah.

https://i.imgur.com/jWNm19r.jpg

struth
01-10-2021, 13:42
looks pretty..

struth
02-10-2021, 13:41
It does, yeah.

https://i.imgur.com/jWNm19r.jpg

so hows the coffee making gaz??

Gazjam
02-10-2021, 13:52
Praise the Lord!

https://i.imgur.com/rjNmvJM.jpg

Marco
02-10-2021, 13:58
It does, yeah.

https://i.imgur.com/jWNm19r.jpg

Nice.. Now you just need to learn to use it!!;)

Marco.

Marco
02-10-2021, 13:59
Praise the Lord!

https://i.imgur.com/rjNmvJM.jpg

What's that - a hot chocolate?:ner:;)

Marco.

Marco
02-10-2021, 14:00
Made earlier on the Smegster:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/jg78VF.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/0zHmQI.jpg

Lurevely...:)

Marco.

Gazjam
02-10-2021, 14:28
So good you made it twice? :D

Gazjam
02-10-2021, 14:29
Nice.. Now you just need to learn to use it!!;)

Marco.

That bit comes later!! :eek:

struth
02-10-2021, 14:43
Praise the Lord!

https://i.imgur.com/rjNmvJM.jpg

good opening effort gary. sure is a pretty machine. once you get used to it it will make good coffee

struth
02-10-2021, 14:44
Made earlier on the Smegster:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/jg78VF.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/0zHmQI.jpg

Lurevely...:)

Marco.

good one marco..

Marco
02-10-2021, 15:12
So good you made it twice? :D

Hehehe... Second one was a loving close up. I do the same with my food pics:)

Marco.

Marco
02-10-2021, 15:14
good opening effort gary. sure is a pretty machine. once you get used to it it will make good coffee

Yeah, defo. Mine was even worse!:lol:

...especially how I used to froth milk:doh:, until you taught me.

Marco.

Marco
02-10-2021, 15:21
good one marco..

Cheers, mate. It was lovely. One thing I've learned in this game, the same as any other, is that there's no substitute for experience!:)

Marco.

Marco
07-10-2021, 11:16
Been a bit quiet in here recently, chaps....!

Gaz, have you given up on your new toy already, or been too busy attending night classes on how to use it?:D;)

Marco.

struth
07-10-2021, 11:19
indeed, ive not had one for while myself. fancy one today tho.

struth
07-10-2021, 11:34
In fact I just made one

Not my best effort but it's ok

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211007/73829592489f757abb8e80b602381817.jpg

Marco
07-10-2021, 20:39
Looks better than ok to me, mate - looks great!

Just made a wee double-espresso:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/3nR3ol.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/PRZsj4.jpg

Noice...:)

Marco.

Gazjam
07-10-2021, 22:59
Been a bit quiet in here recently, chaps....!

Gaz, have you given up on your new toy already, or been too busy attending night classes on how to use it?:D;)

Marco.

Happily enjoying (at least) 4 cups a day from it so far!
Given the ammount of Nescafe I hoovered in a day, its already proven itself a good investment.

Grant and I have the same Grinder,
and I asked him for his preferred settings quite a while back when I was enjoying my Mokka pot.
Dialled those settings in this morning and Gosh-a Miley, Lordy Mamma, if the coffee ain't "Ballpark Different" better.
:thumbsup:

With just the different Grind, I noticed the pressure gauge on the machine went to a different reading.
Bit of Sorcery to this covfeffe stuff!

Further study required.

struth
08-10-2021, 02:16
Happily enjoying (at least) 4 cups a day from it so far!
Given the ammount of Nescafe I hoovered in a day, its already proven itself a good investment.

Grant and I have the same Grinder,
and I asked him for his preferred settings quite a while back when I was enjoying my Mokka pot.
Dialled those settings in this morning and Gosh-a Miley, Lordy Mamma, if the coffee ain't "Ballpark Different" better.
[emoji106]

With just the different Grind, I noticed the pressure gauge on the machine went to a different reading.
Bit of Sorcery to this covfeffe stuff!

Further study required.4 cups [emoji23] that'll keep you going. Good your enjoying it

Marco
08-10-2021, 06:14
+1 absolutely:) Told you though, Gaz, that the grind was super important!

Anyway, when you get a chance it would be good to see some pics of the results you're getting:cool:

Marco.

Marco
08-10-2021, 06:15
Nobody like my espresso?:wah:

:D;)

Marco.

struth
08-10-2021, 07:41
Nobody like my espresso?:wah:

:D;)

Marco.

never noticed it mate. yup looks good.. you get a bickkie with yours:eyebrows:

Beobloke
08-10-2021, 08:08
Nobody like my espresso?:wah:

:D;)

Marco.

Disappointing presentation. Should be in a proper espresso cup!

Marco
08-10-2021, 10:07
It's a traditional cup from Italy, daftee, made for DOUBLE espressos (wider, so it releases the full aroma of the coffee), therefore it *is* proper!:ner:

I have single ones too, but a single espresso is never enough:)

Marco.

Marco
08-10-2021, 10:07
never noticed it mate. yup looks good.. you get a bickkie with yours:eyebrows:

Churz - yes, gotta have a bikkie!:D

Marco.

struth
08-10-2021, 14:17
Fresh fill of the hopper. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211008/10e9e66fd283bcedd21df467d3e515b7.jpg

struth
09-10-2021, 09:18
Just Another Saturdayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211009/9e727063150a431960eb1b20b29cd195.jpg

Gazjam
09-10-2021, 09:40
Getting there...
Now we're talking.

Been playing with different pre-infusion settings, that and tweaking the Grind settings is making a lot of difference.
Cool.

My "black coffee"...
https://i.imgur.com/oBt5eqN.jpg

struth
09-10-2021, 09:41
ah yes, much improved

Marco
09-10-2021, 10:17
Getting there...
Now we're talking.

Been playing with different pre-infusion settings, that and tweaking the Grind settings is making a lot of difference.
Cool.

My "black coffee"...
https://i.imgur.com/oBt5eqN.jpg

Yup, looks MASSIVELY better mate, and really good!

The only thing I'd say is what's caused the pale 'bubbly froth' between the dark coffee and the crema on top? How was the pour when the coffee came out? Looks to me like it's 'spurted' a bit (ooh-er), and you don't want spurts or dribbles...:eyebrows:

Eradicate that (losing the bubbles), and you'll be much closer to perfection:)

Marco.

Marco
09-10-2021, 10:18
Just Another Saturdayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211009/9e727063150a431960eb1b20b29cd195.jpg

Nice one, mate.

Marco.

Marco
09-10-2021, 10:19
Here's one I've just slurped:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/garL0c.jpg

Marco.

struth
10-10-2021, 10:35
Good coffee mate.

A Sunday version, much like all the others.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211010/7635a29f06a7e58f0ba25a060a666cc1.jpg

Marco
10-10-2021, 14:36
Creamy, lol... I like the San Pellegrino - my fav flavour, too!:

Here's a wee spurt I popped out earlier:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/8UbIyV.jpg

Marco.

struth
10-10-2021, 14:48
Creamy, lol... I like the San Pellegrino - my fav flavour, too!:

Here's a wee spurt I popped out earlier:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/8UbIyV.jpg

Marco.

nice again... yes the blood orange is best

Marco
10-10-2021, 15:32
Churz, beans were a mixture of your Kimbo ones and these: https://welshcoffee.com/product/brazil-sao-silvestre/

Dunno how much you've experimented with Brazilian beans, but these are top notch and my fav so far:)

Marco.

struth
10-10-2021, 15:40
Churz, beans were a mixture of your Kimbo ones and these: https://welshcoffee.com/product/brazil-sao-silvestre/

Dunno how much you've experimented with Brazilian beans, but these are top notch and my fav so far:)

Marco.

Andrade grow good beans. ive had some of theirs before. different roaster tho

Marco
10-10-2021, 16:17
Yup, defo. Having done a fair bit of experimenting now, I think I'm more of a South Amercian guy, than African. Just generally prefer the flavour of beans from that part of the world:)

Anyway, this is really for Gaz's benefit... Puck time, and how one should look if you've got the grind and tamping right:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/EY9bIG.jpg

Happiness is nice hard puck!:D Lol... For me, if it doesn't leave the filter basket firmly packed like that, and instead breaks up easily when knocking it out, then you haven't done your prep right! The attention to detail I put into that process will be revealed shortly when I post my espresso-making method.

As you can see, still a lovely sunny evening in Wrexham!:cool:

Marco.

struth
11-10-2021, 09:46
Monday, Mondayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211011/7d28148b61cac47edc17c962a1219b2a.jpg

struth
13-10-2021, 08:36
Wed my coffee.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211013/9531fba08841ee66dd96b11678a075bd.jpg

struth
13-10-2021, 08:45
rather good that one;)

Marco
13-10-2021, 11:02
Lol, did it hit the spot mate?:D

Trouble is, even if you perfect the grind, and measure out everything (as I do, and probably you, too) to a notionally 'perfect' level, there are still so many variables, out with of your control, which can alter the final results, either positively or negatively.

For white coffee, for example, the freshness of the milk (and therefore how good it froths when steamed, thus pours) makes a BIG difference. You probably notice that, too. Coffee grinds distribution and tamping is another. However, measuring things out certainly improves consistency and gives you the best chance possible of optimising the results!:cool:

Marco.

struth
13-10-2021, 11:13
yup, lots of variables, and they vary at times too from last time. sometimes you are just more in the groove for making too. i pretty much use close to same stuff and same method always, so they are mostly very close but not always; there is that X factor that goes missing, and the Y factor that appear occasionally to make a good one great.

Marco
13-10-2021, 11:37
Yup, totally agree... And don't forget the 'KY' factor, and how that maximises the spurt!:D:eyebrows:

Marco.

struth
14-10-2021, 08:42
Pained Thursday coffee.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211014/6d0c7f15d762966b6e68ae4f1fcd9e50.jpg

Marco
14-10-2021, 08:44
Late rise this morning, mate. Are you in pain?

Marco.

struth
14-10-2021, 08:53
Late rise this morning, mate. Are you in pain?

Marco.

vicious at moment.. hopefully it'll pass. was not bad overnight. i was late with tabs so might be reason.

Marco
14-10-2021, 09:12
Sorry to hear that mate. Yup, always best to keep up with your meds. Hope the pain eases soon.

Marco.

struth
15-10-2021, 08:53
So good, I drank it first.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211015/330b43f327563e2e98d2420ddd00e11e.jpg

Gazjam
15-10-2021, 17:04
Who ordered a tiny Guiness?

https://i.imgur.com/Rdxi02Y.jpeg

Gazjam
15-10-2021, 17:09
Wee Americano before dinner...

https://i.imgur.com/bGEu6oW.jpeg

struth
15-10-2021, 17:14
nice one

struth
15-10-2021, 17:28
Who ordered a tiny Guiness?

https://i.imgur.com/Rdxi02Y.jpeg

nip of guinness and a pint of whisky please:eek:

Marco
15-10-2021, 17:44
Who ordered a tiny Guiness?

https://i.imgur.com/Rdxi02Y.jpeg

Much improved mate, and clear progress since last time, and a different world from your first one, so well done!

Nice deep crema, but do you know what's causing the slight 'foaming' effect on top? You don't really want that mate, and instead a nice flat finish:)

Also, is that a deceptively large glass or not - how many shots of espresso are in it? Looks like you'll be awake for most of the night!:D

Marco.

struth
17-10-2021, 10:06
Sunday sunday

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211017/46f6ba0dbd5ee0e83911c55caf372f46.jpg

Gazjam
17-10-2021, 11:34
Mornin.

Usually take black coffee first thing,
Thought I'd try out the milk steamer for a change.

Enjoyed this one,
Velvety, rich n thick,
sat heavy in the belly though.

Back to black it is.

https://i.imgur.com/5khvaMq.jpeg

struth
17-10-2021, 11:58
thats the game:D

struth
17-10-2021, 14:05
Cleaned out the grinder fully including the burrs.
It's nice and shiny again in and out.
A disgrace it's not been done sooner but my mobility isn't good, and your inclined to put these things off. [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211017/5252b08a04c963bf37a4ddf01fdf3f2f.jpg

struth
17-10-2021, 14:31
Always improves taste a littlehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211017/04d309a816aa847740d32367f3557c98.jpg

struth
18-10-2021, 09:28
A wet Monday https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211018/4fa1deced891120b71647c54f5b134e4.jpg

struth
19-10-2021, 08:16
S. O. B. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211019/6cf3103e9973ae0beca9f92d84586809.jpg

struth
20-10-2021, 09:38
S. O. B. 2https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211020/d014f5343caa6a9bffc8efdaa8d7b7d0.jpg

Alex_UK
21-10-2021, 09:34
“Bean” ;) thinking about getting an espresso machine again after not having one for several years, but honestly not sure how much use it will get, so just dipping my toe in the water with this from John Lewis at £70 - came this morning and here’s my first attempt at a double, well, a bit too much water, but tasted good!. Looking forward to experimenting with it.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211021/0dc546527fee255671f92e2784bf7d32.jpg

struth
21-10-2021, 09:45
all you need alex, especially if your not using milk much. if you do go upmarket, i'd say try the sage ones. they are neat, and good; not terribly hard to use etc. they do pretty much everything too, even the lower end ones like mine.

Alex_UK
21-10-2021, 10:09
On my third double, gonna be wired by midday! :lol: I did do a bit of research, so was happy that at 15 bar it should do the job and saw some really good reviews on it, and I’m very impressed myself with the build quality and of course the coffee! Can’t really go wrong at the price, and of course a 2 year guarantee... :)

struth
21-10-2021, 10:23
On my third double, gonna be wired by midday! :lol: I did do a bit of research, so was happy that at 15 bar it should do the job and saw some really good reviews on it, and I’m very impressed myself with the build quality and of course the coffee! Can’t really go wrong at the price, and of course a 2 year guarantee... :)

yeah, 15 bar is really too much but thats what the cheaper ones run at, although at the brewing head it will likely be nearer 9 as thats the ideal. good pro machines use 9 bar at head, and have valves that open if it goes above 9.. yours may have one too, or pressure may just drop naturally on its way etc.

struth
21-10-2021, 14:55
Coffee time.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211021/0fe81f709eee1d710f7b04e600471bce.jpg

Gazjam
22-10-2021, 07:39
Mornin' all.

https://i.imgur.com/cqusW5I.jpeg

Gazjam
22-10-2021, 07:44
First cup of wakey wakey.

https://i.imgur.com/tgYwoPt.jpeg

struth
22-10-2021, 07:45
waking juice eh.. you enjoying machine then?

Gazjam
22-10-2021, 07:53
Yeah Grant,
sure are.

Former Nescafé Gold Blend fiend,
The real stuff is much better.

going through beans at a rate of knots though! :eek:

struth
22-10-2021, 07:56
that'll calm down a bit now your hitting spot...

Gazjam
22-10-2021, 07:58
Good to know.

Lots of stuff to pick up,
Been trying different settings on machine and grinder, interesting the difference it all can make.

Marco
22-10-2021, 08:02
Glad you're enjoying your machine, Gaz - and yes, as with hi-fi *everything* makes a difference!;)

Just watch your caffeine intake, though:eek:

Marco.

struth
22-10-2021, 08:06
My lucyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211022/5e0b818914ab3d0cf025bb23104521f5.jpg

Gazjam
22-10-2021, 11:14
Yes Dad. :D

2/3 cups a day…not all days.
weirdly,

drinking less coffee than I was before getting the machine?
Guess the propa tasting stuff ticks the caffeine box far more than Instant.





Glad you're enjoying your machine, Gaz - and yes, as with hi-fi *everything* makes a difference!;)

Just watch your caffeine intake, though:eek:

Marco.

struth
23-10-2021, 08:35
Just Another Saturday https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/7cfa9d977e438243254ec15f73d5f9c2.jpg

Alex_UK
23-10-2021, 12:09
So Tamzin wanted to learn how to make coffee with the new machine, after researching and printing off a poster of all the different types of coffees here is her first go - a Galao apparently!

No jug (just ordered one, thank you Amazon Prime) so frothed in a mug and did a very good job I reckon! She’s now assembling a list of all the things she needs to make the 36 different variations on her poster, though at 13 the Irish one she’ll be making for Dad!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/816d44ed33bcda38d15e3b9b0ddd5bce.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/5ff7212b6de2d8be92053e3b53fe6933.jpg

She’s now melting marshmallows and inventing her own! I’ll keep you posted! :eek:

Alex_UK
23-10-2021, 12:49
Behold, the Marshmallow Cappuccino! It actually wasn’t too bad, half a giant marshmallow dissolved in boiling water, a single shot, frothed milk the other half of the marshmallow “floater” and a bit too much cocoa powder (no shaker yet, ordered too!) Starbucks have already called! :lol:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211023/8c757deb08ab16dc7d882e904e4b3d2c.jpg

Gazjam
23-10-2021, 17:53
Crikey! :eek:

struth
24-10-2021, 14:24
A crackerhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211024/c27e07b9c1ef69a946c1a442810e2225.jpg

struth
27-10-2021, 09:40
Coffee time againhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211027/8143ed0e618503ab1a2665eae1bd3daf.jpg

Gazjam
28-10-2021, 10:16
Bean buying time again,

@Grant,

Any reccies for a warm nutty type taste?
think the opposite of dark and bitter…

cheers :)

struth
28-10-2021, 10:22
First 2 here are like that, especially the Nicaraguan, which im drinking now.
the Guatemalan at end of page 2 is what i had today tho and its lovely. just opened after leaving to degass for 2 weeks.



https://wogancoffee.com/product-category/all-our-coffees/
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/d423c6b485792ed7a741d48a8f2b6d9f.jpg

struth
28-10-2021, 13:44
Thursday coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/822fd3dd944dbaec5b01fe0e78628bcf.jpg

Alex_UK
28-10-2021, 21:16
New Krups burr grinder arrived today, only cheap again, but impressed so far, and much easier than my previous manual one. I was always a bit worried about the blades and my fingers! Need to experiment a bit on the best level, finest seems too fine for the espresso machine.

Gazjam
29-10-2021, 09:40
Thanks Grant,
will order a couple of bags.


QUOTE=struth;1297575]First 2 here are like that, especially the Nicaraguan, which im drinking now.
the Guatemalan at end of page 2 is what i had today tho and its lovely. just opened after leaving to degass for 2 weeks.



https://wogancoffee.com/product-category/all-our-coffees/
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211028/d423c6b485792ed7a741d48a8f2b6d9f.jpg[/QUOTE]

struth
29-10-2021, 13:34
Coffee time. 2p of lekky this cost lol

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211029/c8753d77189ffa12c575042bfdcd8463.jpg

struth
30-10-2021, 08:51
Saturday is with us again. A witching coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211030/25b8b47ab2b1b10366c78ecb6e8249e3.jpg

Zoidburg
04-11-2021, 08:32
I've had some lovely results from neighbourhood coffee recently, and particularly their I ain't afraid of no roast beans. Liverpool based so it's nice they are local to me too. 2986629867

Sent from my Redmi Note 9 Pro using Tapatalk

struth
04-11-2021, 10:16
Coffee timehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211104/b29c3d991d3c6abc081334d30e6b8e1f.jpg

struth
10-11-2021, 15:42
Wed coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211110/69657a00bc9c477b73948134fe3a77d5.jpg

struth
11-11-2021, 18:37
Evening coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211111/fc2c8118a8e2aa502100c85555d90b6b.jpg

Gazjam
13-11-2021, 10:06
Getting a bit more technical here...
The 'Golden Ratio' is in there somewhere Dammit!

https://i.imgur.com/QYMyBB1.jpeg

struth
13-11-2021, 10:30
Getting a bit more technical here...
The 'Golden Ratio' is in there somewhere Dammit!

https://i.imgur.com/QYMyBB1.jpeg

na!, its coffee beans mate...:ner:

Gazjam
13-11-2021, 10:53
:)

struth
14-11-2021, 10:27
Indy Sunday
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211114/fd939631493ac18480c755290a90e0a7.jpg

Gazjam
15-11-2021, 10:09
Mornin'.
Small Guinness to start the Day..

https://i.imgur.com/nbM5vQx.jpeg

Gazjam
15-11-2021, 10:16
Grant,
How do you store your beans?

Tupperwared in the fridge up till now, decided to try storing in cupboard instead.
Different (better) taste.

Wonder if the sudden temperature change when grinding/brewing plays a part here?
Wotcha fink?

struth
15-11-2021, 10:22
Grant,
How do you store your beans?

Tupperwared in the fridge up till now, decided to try storing in cupboard instead.
Different (better) taste.

Wonder if the sudden temperature change when grinding/brewing plays a part here?
Wotcha fink?

i leave the bags out for about 3 weeks then i keep them in bottom of fridge. i fill about 1 large cup of beans into hopper every few days. i mix my beans so i get a bit of the good in them all.. a blend; i use good beans and add some of these to the mix.. these are great in small quantities.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0040Y2L86/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

actually they are not bad by self tbh. they are dark tho and have no doubt robusta in mix

struth
15-11-2021, 10:26
Todayshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211115/db30e5c602e00c69e9b74b63236e15b4.jpg

struth
16-11-2021, 10:53
Got my mojo backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211116/c6ad5fa3022510b2a9d1c81edff50eef.jpg

Better than yesterday's dirty puddle

struth
18-11-2021, 14:50
Terminator coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211118/5468cca4c3e8b7b96dafdcc7591ff7c5.jpg

struth
19-11-2021, 14:23
A hot chocolate today.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211119/d85845189738b0916c1ec94f1359241d.jpg

struth
20-11-2021, 11:13
Some like it hothttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211120/5c20d7ec668ec737237403e737af2f72.jpg

struth
21-11-2021, 09:47
New adventures of..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211121/17ce6615920bbbf114c03880f71fb5ec.jpg

struth
22-11-2021, 10:14
Don't like Monday's

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211122/c36f0db07ffa6be14c74dc5ce84121b7.jpg

struth
24-11-2021, 10:28
Melody coffee.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211124/a480b08bc3b862edf09e0e3c24ca6cad.jpg

struth
25-11-2021, 11:44
Marple coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211125/fb10891990a4107cddfcba4b35e7f8bd.jpg

struth
27-11-2021, 10:50
Windy coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211127/3e40f7cc93478ec106699343cf5051f3.jpg

struth
29-11-2021, 14:10
Volcano coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211129/db337938ab7a007f07a0e0da671e36ea.jpg

struth
05-12-2021, 09:52
**https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211205/e9ce4a865652b304de23fbea2f95dae0.jpg

struth
10-12-2021, 08:54
Coffee timehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211210/0ec1ffd9405ceb572322bbd43fc60360.jpg

struth
19-12-2021, 10:17
Sunday, Sundayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211219/cf9405c9affcf5ffc77e51706148795a.jpg

struth
24-12-2021, 08:11
Coffee
Early today but been up for a whilehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211224/7f53aaa0a479a71968e9b37647d99d15.jpg

struth
26-12-2021, 09:34
Swan coffee

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211226/f23891203d31801f7bf1331f911d0361.jpg

struth
27-12-2021, 09:33
Cockerel coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211227/59adeaf76a8628679e4817c2b198a660.jpg

struth
28-12-2021, 12:29
Leafy suburbshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211228/0c8c38a8ce4ccc5ee69df63348777b3b.jpg

Alex_UK
28-12-2021, 12:53
Christmas pressie chosen by daughter for my morning coffee... :rolleyes:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211228/1bcfd0ef7c146ace1001da7a5352a80f.jpg

Well, at least it’s orange, my favourite colour... and there may be a grain of truth in the slogan... :lol:

struth
31-12-2021, 10:47
Coffee. Last of yearhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211231/175242b6682ea1e97c9acddf2a2f9481.jpg

struth
01-01-2022, 16:34
Later than usualhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220101/eb814015009ad4635f4079dd98361a92.jpg

guy
04-01-2022, 16:59
Christmas pressie chosen by daughter for my morning coffee... :rolleyes:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211228/1bcfd0ef7c146ace1001da7a5352a80f.jpg

Well, at least it’s orange, my favourite colour... and there may be a grain of truth in the slogan... :lol:

Good girl - knows her dad :lol:

struth
08-01-2022, 15:56
Coffee timehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220108/95088af6b53188cbc31ce29cf1bea684.jpg

struth
08-01-2022, 16:08
New toy at struths toy shop.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220108/bd3dd83952ffeddc562e4e0a83ca2395.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220108/3e28873669fe21f3293107e340806e76.jpg

struth
09-01-2022, 09:56
A nice cuppa that washttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220109/6954ead4e8b3998746cf7bce70c98e94.jpg

struth
09-01-2022, 16:25
and another gadget. lol


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/WlZgWy.jpg

guy
10-01-2022, 10:27
It's taken me quite a while, but finally got around to using bottled water instead of tap.
I have a few bottles of Tesco "Elmhurst" water left over from my latest batch of home-brew (been using it for beer making for my last four batches - smoother, less of the typical home-brew "tang").

Bloody hell - two cups of coffee this morning, better crema and far smoother taste.
I'm going to have to do this from now on, highly recommended :)

struth
10-01-2022, 14:13
It's taken me quite a while, but finally got around to using bottled water instead of tap.
I have a few bottles of Tesco "Elmhurst" water left over from my latest batch of home-brew (been using it for beer making for my last four batches - smoother, less of the typical home-brew "tang").

Bloody hell - two cups of coffee this morning, better crema and far smoother taste.
I'm going to have to do this from now on, highly recommended :)

good quality water is a game changer guy. i filter my tap water and the filter then adds magnesium to it. this gives a really much better crema and flavour(in my opinion and many others)
these are the filters https://www.amazon.co.uk/BWT-Magnesium-Mineralizer-Patented-Technology/dp/B01KK82ZFO/ref=asc_df_B01KK82ZFO/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=256256967002&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16113087044381713532&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007406&hvtargid=pla-309639604055&psc=1

and jug i use is siilar to this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/BWT-Water-Filter-White-25x11x27-3/dp/B0168OSX9Q/ref=asc_df_B0168OSX9Q/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=255672231529&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3843507555923719266&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007406&hvtargid=pla-421001966613&th=1
they come in different sizes tho

guy
10-01-2022, 22:05
Cheers Grant
I think that I will stick to the bottled water for the moment as I use it quite regularly for my home-brew.
We are quite short on counter top space in the kitchen and my wife gets a bit annoyed with the space that my coffee maker takes up :( - I can get away with bottled as I store that in my log cabin.

I started using bottled water for beer as, apparently, chloramines in tap water can give beer "off flavours", I guess the same is true with coffee:)

struth
13-01-2022, 13:40
Coffee timehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/8741d099189a8624b8754a6f5e1e37fd.jpg

struth
15-01-2022, 10:33
Turned out nice againhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220115/9ffed62f62fd89ab49f5621ce05a417b.jpg

struth
17-01-2022, 10:45
No one likes Monday's

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220117/d999814d852e6bb8d00241e58b2901cc.jpg

Gazjam
20-01-2022, 08:01
Mornin' All...

Cup of wakeup juice,
Last working day of the week, nearly the Weekend here.

https://i.imgur.com/zCrJkiV.jpeg

struth
21-01-2022, 09:30
A morning dramhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220121/806b3dab150a8ef2ded399f8b78d4e70.jpg

guy
21-01-2022, 10:33
and another gadget. lol


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/WlZgWy.jpg


Go on Grant, put me out of my misery - what is it for :D

struth
21-01-2022, 10:39
Go on Grant, put me out of my misery - what is it for :D

its a dosing funnel for a sage portafilter that also has a trigger point for sage smart grinders, that i use. its a great little gadget. it clicks into position on top and its top becomes the top of the original filter. once youve dosed it and partially tamped, you can remove it, and have no spillage

guy
21-01-2022, 11:13
Fair enough - sometimes my thought processes worry me :lol:

struth
22-01-2022, 12:05
A nice one for Saturday
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220122/5bfe0368bb0c7c4dfc464a92b06a0a65.jpg

struth
23-01-2022, 11:42
Red Indian Chiefhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220123/ba19f8aa38f1b56a26e9ea50bbf951c0.jpg

Alex_UK
23-01-2022, 17:57
Red Indian Chiefhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220123/ba19f8aa38f1b56a26e9ea50bbf951c0.jpg

I can see that!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

struth
26-01-2022, 10:50
Coffee time again.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220126/39db59d4e64329f4edf965de29b49f54.jpg

struth
28-01-2022, 09:24
Friday brewhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220128/f8b323f920cf1aaafee75cd3a5f7024a.jpg

struth
05-02-2022, 09:21
Wig day.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220205/7a531113ab0e2b19fe55686e89947adc.jpg

struth
09-02-2022, 09:49
Frying tonight! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/c954a656f2b046271e21ec52172ac4b2.jpg

struth
10-02-2022, 12:56
Coffee time againhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220210/eeb0ee9a9eb42392b9701aeec8e48a8e.jpg

struth
13-02-2022, 10:07
May your coffee be strong and your Sunday, long.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220213/02c3ed0395479bfe6f47d5f8a6b9388c.jpg

struth
18-02-2022, 11:06
Friday coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220218/ec60b29fea2da026ce6d13446dcaaa33.jpg

struth
19-02-2022, 11:16
A special today. Looks great.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220219/3b72ec84d4b8709702548c6cafd214c1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220219/bb6e28088714f79649461bc2a43308bd.jpg

struth
23-02-2022, 10:53
Coffee time .

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220223/6e2529f17522dffc65f3b190fdab528b.jpg

struth
26-02-2022, 16:42
A late coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220226/722248ed45955619f7d383cbdf8663ae.jpg

Barry
26-02-2022, 19:46
All your cups of coffee look the same to me - have they been made using the same bean?

struth
04-03-2022, 10:57
Friday coffeehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220304/5b9197c1f03011b72b8e5d055caf0397.jpg

Gazjam
05-03-2022, 10:13
Bought a couple bags of this, an old favourite.

Whenever I was up near Perth I used to stop off at a great wee coffee n tea shop,
The Bean Shop.

Didn't have a grinder at the time, so bought pre-ground.
Not been in years,
Just found out they are selling online, happy days.

Picked up a couple of bags of my old favourite, beans this time.
Look fwd to cracking a bag open when the hopper empties.

https://i.imgur.com/lQt9a3w.jpeg

https://imgur.com/a/4pCkFfG
https://imgur.com/a/4pCkFfG

struth
05-03-2022, 10:40
a dark roast with lots of crema, monsoon malabar.. i use a mixer in mine that has a highish % of it in. not keen on all monsoon tho...:)

Gazjam
05-03-2022, 18:50
Not reached your "Guru" status yet Grant to dabble in mixing blends :)
One day...

brian2957
05-03-2022, 19:09
Dunno mate, I enjoyed my coffee and hot chocolates today :)

Gazjam
05-03-2022, 20:25
Yeah,
speaking of the hot chocolate...got a thing?
Highly Vunderbar, and strongly recommended.

"Like drinking a bar of Galaxy..."

https://i.imgur.com/zwUosji.jpg

struth
06-03-2022, 09:41
Not reached your "Guru" status yet Grant to dabble in mixing blends :)
One day...

ha-ha.. im no guru.. just adjust til i get a pleasant taste. thats the trick.. getting it to look and taste good at same time.:D

walpurgis
06-03-2022, 09:49
Mine comes from an exclusive source. There is only one supplier in the UK! :)

https://i.ibb.co/CWZ3MYP/Screen-Shot-03-06-22-at-09-47-AM.png (https://imgbb.com/)

struth
06-03-2022, 11:56
This is mine .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220306/59600a02b6ed38d2dc41bdf374861b36.jpg

struth
07-03-2022, 16:27
Gravy browning lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/bbe7fbf9d789ffbb8e0d36503630c608.jpg

struth
11-03-2022, 10:37
Salazar's coffee lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220311/02a3c02ac1f12b4935e08f3b0166cb46.jpg

Gazjam
11-03-2022, 16:59
This morning's brew,
Enjoying the dark Monsoon Malabar beans.

https://i.imgur.com/iZfMWWu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tGXfH0C.jpg

struth
13-03-2022, 11:47
Sunday and still am, justhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220313/f42d5bc88b073b72362efbfba69ea2ca.jpg

struth
13-03-2022, 11:48
This morning's brew,
Enjoying the dark Monsoon Malabar beans.

https://i.imgur.com/iZfMWWu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tGXfH0C.jpg

nice, oily one gary.. lots of crema