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struth
26-10-2013, 22:07
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to finally this





In 6 years.... Trippy city...lol
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Thing Fish
26-10-2013, 22:08
Are you quite sure...;)

Very nice by the way.

Macca
26-10-2013, 22:35
Looks finished to me. So what's next then, classic cars?

struth
26-10-2013, 23:07
a very good question...:lol: .....maybe it is not, er, quite finished:)

Roy S
26-10-2013, 23:08
Got at least three more walls to fill yet :eyebrows:

The Grand Wazoo
26-10-2013, 23:09
Excellent!
Off ya pop & sort out World Peace now!

walpurgis
26-10-2013, 23:13
I must consult you as my 'style guru' for some tips Grant! :)

Rare Bird
27-10-2013, 08:40
I was finished quite some time ago.. It's a great feeling.

Now to make myself a unit for mi clobber.No hi-fi bullshittery with old Rare bird :eyebrows:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/LargsUnit.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/ELPFAN1968/media/LargsUnit.jpg.html)

The Black Adder
27-10-2013, 09:02
Famous last words, Grant.... lol - A mean looking system is that.

That is ace, Andre.

struth
27-10-2013, 09:46
I was finished quite some time ago.. It's a great feeling.

Now to make myself a unit for mi clobber.No hi-fi bullshittery with old Rare bird :eyebrows:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Largs.jpg (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/ELPFAN1968/media/Largs.jpg.html)

Great pic from my youth there....is that a Fidelity ??? ...it looks familiar.......and no, I will pass on it ...TA!:)

Rare Bird
27-10-2013, 10:53
:whistle: No it's a Larg 'Argyll' unit..

struth
27-10-2013, 11:09
OK, it just rang a bell...sure fidelity used to use the Argyll name as well....used to love those old radiograms. often had decent valve amps in as well..and we used to fling them in the bin...doh!

Rare Bird
27-10-2013, 11:22
Yeh but it's not a radiogram. you bought the unit cut holes for what ever gear you want to mount.

struth
28-10-2013, 16:49
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj505/struthsbowler/odds%20n%20sods/2ebbfbb7-a656-42fe-8c75-9a8f0fa0be26.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/struthsbowler/media/odds%20n%20sods/2ebbfbb7-a656-42fe-8c75-9a8f0fa0be26.jpg.html)

The upstairs system is about finished as well....woe is me.....what to do????:)

realysm42
28-10-2013, 18:24
How about listen to some music?

struth
28-10-2013, 18:30
what, and wear out me valves?

synsei
28-10-2013, 18:32
How about listen to some music?

Oh, so that's what it's for, I did wonder. The missus will be pleased :lol:

realysm42
28-10-2013, 18:35
My missus has said she's worried shell come in one day to find me shagging a speaker or something, so they could be multipurpose ha ha!

@Grant, that's a fair point mate.

Have you ever dabbled in upgrading some of the smps units you've got there to linear versions? Relatively small outlay for some real benefits to the sound :eyebrows:

synsei
28-10-2013, 18:39
My missus has said she's worried shell come in one day to find me shagging a speaker or something, so they could be multipurpose ha ha!

:rfl:

struth
28-10-2013, 19:33
My missus has said she's worried shell come in one day to find me shagging a speaker or something, so they could be multipurpose ha ha!

@Grant, that's a fair point mate.

Have you ever dabbled in upgrading some of the smps units you've got there to linear versions? Relatively small outlay for some real benefits to the sound :eyebrows:

you can see my SMPS ???:eyebrows: ...now thats going some.....

but to answer your question; yes, and no...I would probably like to but think the research and possibly cost might be beyond me....the Beresford dac would certainly benefit, as would the dino downstairs.....not sure if it is feasable to do summat about the laptop ps....I get some internal signal noise through the valve amp when the laptop is plugged in...something I dont get with solid state amps....it is coming through the m2tech dac line.. so am having to use the battery.it is not noticable when the music is on mind but now I know it is there, I am paranoid about it...lol

struth
09-11-2013, 17:10
Did I say I'm finished.....well, I accidentally bought this.....oops.

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Sovereign
09-11-2013, 22:14
I have recently had couple of these amps, very nice indeed, what are your thoughts.

struth
09-11-2013, 22:26
well, just got it but seems well built and sounds superb. As good as I have heard tbh....all Japanese audiophile grade parts I am led to believe so as this one has a 240/220 dropdown tx with it I am hoping it will be a long term keeper.
I still love my Audioromy though so I will need to find a place for it somewhere.

struth
21-02-2014, 20:42
as an update I have sold the audioromy and bought a Nakamichi CA5 pre. This was for the Yaqin originally, to turn it into a power amp but it never got past the main system test, as the phono stage is so good it is now being used just for that. Maybe a bit of a waste but it sounds so good that is where it will stay.
will post a pic later.

The Barbarian
21-02-2014, 20:45
Going back ter o/p you will never be finished
:rolleyes:

struth
21-02-2014, 20:48
Well, think we all knew that would never be:lol: .....I managed to give up fags easily, but this it difficult. Yhink there should be help on the National health.:smoking:

struth
04-03-2014, 16:01
Been a lot of changes to my studio and is nearly ready for testing.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/04/4egereha.jpg

Waiting on a PSU for the Creek and we will see if it has been a waste of time effort and wonga.

struth
19-03-2014, 14:53
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The shed is about ready for the season....got 3 systems so I won't get bored and I just picked up one of these

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weighs a ton but is in nice condition. Excuse the pun.

Oh and I have finally finished building the variac.
just needs a knob.

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struth
21-03-2014, 22:11
I have used the mains conditioner upstairs with system 2 and it has made a difference....the bass is deffo tighter and more controlled etc.......only tried it with the cd player through the Beresford dac so far but will try the pc tomorrow...I hope for improvements there but have to wait and see...It runs nice and quiet I might add....

Naughty Nigel
24-03-2014, 14:08
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but how do you find the 21L's?

Nigel.

Naughty Nigel
24-03-2014, 14:17
you can see my SMPS ???:eyebrows: ...now thats going some.....

not sure if it is feasable to do summat about the laptop ps....I get some internal signal noise through the valve amp when the laptop is plugged in...something I dont get with solid state amps....it is coming through the m2tech dac line.. so am having to use the battery.it is not noticable when the music is on mind but now I know it is there, I am paranoid about it...lol

Switch-mode power supplies (such as those used in computers) are notorious for causing audio interference. They work at high frequency, (usually 25 KHz or above). Spikes and residues from this often find their way through to audio circuits. Possibly the best answer would be to get hold of an old Thandar bench power supply (with conventional series regulator) to charge your laptop.

I would also add that sound cards in computers often leave a lot to be desired. I thought my iPod sounded good until I listened to it through my Pioneer A-400 and Quad 11L's.

Nigel.

struth
24-03-2014, 14:50
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but how do you find the 21L's?

Nigel.

Hi Nigel...i love the 21l s in the main system they have a very luxurious tone and if fed right are surprisingly well controlled. My 21s are the mk1 versions which i think to be better than the newer version..often the case.

With the pc upstairs that had the noise...i actually changed the amp to a yaqin and have now fitted a bt mains conditioner and all noise has gone and the timbre improved dramatically..I also have another pair of speakers coming to upgrade the ms10 s to q acoustics..

struth
26-03-2014, 15:53
Got the q acoustics into my system today and they work really well with the yaqin amp...look great too and barely a mark on them...one of my better baybuys:)

struth
26-03-2014, 17:47
Pic of the new speakers............



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brian2957
26-03-2014, 17:50
How are they sounding now they've had a little time to settle in Grant.

struth
26-03-2014, 19:48
Had them on all afternoon Brian, and they were sounding so good I think I'll have to start calling this one my no 1 system.....the wife and nurse would not let me put it of..lol

surprising what you can pick up cheaply on ebay on ocasion...nice guy that sold them too.....had the glove and bungs etc with them

brian2957
26-03-2014, 19:56
Nice one mate. Enjoy :)

Naughty Nigel
27-03-2014, 10:59
Hi Nigel...i love the 21l s in the main system they have a very luxurious tone and if fed right are surprisingly well controlled. My 21s are the mk1 versions which i think to be better than the newer version..often the case.


I believe the L series was originally designed and built for Quad by Spendor in the UK, presumably using parts sourced from elsewhere. Current production is in China. I don't know if this explains anything, but I am happy with my original L's! :)

Nigel.

struth
29-03-2014, 16:10
I think you are spot on Nigel.
I still get or got a little bass boom from the rear ports partly because of their design and part because of position so I layed my hands on my grandkids baby sponge (a new one that never got used) cut it in two and inserted them where the sun never shone:D

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/30/ymynume9.jpg

Worked wonders

struth
01-04-2014, 11:44
Been making room for an imminent arrival;)

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agk
01-04-2014, 11:53
Judging from the location of your gap I'm saying its an amp.
Do tell Grant.

struth
01-04-2014, 12:30
Yes its a power amp. Going to use it with the integrated to biwire my quads. Tweeters on the integrated and mids on the new Atoll power.
might not work but worth a try. I think they should be compatable

agk
01-04-2014, 12:37
Certainly a popular route around these parts at the moment.
Seize the zeitgeist, I'm sure it'll work and if it sounds good it IS good.

struth
01-04-2014, 12:47
A good word that.....Raises the bar.

my expensive new speaker cable will have now, to wait a little longer.

struth
02-04-2014, 11:03
The eagle has landedhttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/ymajy6u6.jpg

struth
02-04-2014, 11:18
The speaker cable has arrived..now I can set it up
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struth
02-04-2014, 11:49
La bombe est allé vivre:lol:

Paul Simon is pumping out the mardi gras

struth
02-04-2014, 11:57
Looks the part and sounds very nice..even the cables are goodhttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/8epe3e2e.jpg

agk
02-04-2014, 19:16
Looking good. Love that turntable.

struth
02-04-2014, 20:02
Thanks, just going to add so high res pics.

struth
02-04-2014, 20:27
HERE IS THE AREZZO

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struth
03-04-2014, 20:52
Been listening to the Atoll again today and have to say that even with fairly cheap cables, it sound very upmarket. also seems to work extremely well with the Arcam although it uses a tad more power to get the same decibal level, it has better separation now.. think it will be great once I can afford some better speaker wire; either 2 runs of normal or a biwire set.

I am about finished restyling the shed studio now and will post some pics soon.....it is looking super

struth
04-04-2014, 16:37
Finally got the shelf up and everything connected so I think I will leave this now and enjoy it for the season...some pics of the contents.:)

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struth
23-04-2014, 16:54
One of my new dacs has arrived...looks and sounds very good

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struth
01-05-2014, 11:36
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/01/3a3e7asy.jpg

Just got my Bellum power thingy installed..a definite improvement.

struth
01-05-2014, 13:36
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/01/mu4esy5e.jpg

Getting kinda crowded in there.:)

Wakefield Turntables
01-05-2014, 14:02
Those small speakers look familiar. ;)

struth
01-05-2014, 14:09
Yes, me quads..kinda fancy a change as they and the tt are the only things original to the system but a, they sound good, and b, selling and replacing them would be a nightmare. Not so many members around this neck of the woods.

struth
06-05-2014, 22:19
Just ordered a new pair of Q A 2020i's and a set of stands from manufacturer.....took the plunge...............:eyebrows: ....I'll be all excited now til they come.:eek:

will post some pics once I get them.

The Barbarian
06-05-2014, 23:29
What do you recon to the Rogers 'Ravensborne' amp Grant. I don't have one of those only a 'Ravensbrook' spotted a Akai '4000D' at the back :) .. Ive tried getting an older Akai '3000D' for a few years now but they dont crop up much in the condition i lust after..

Barry
07-05-2014, 00:11
What do you recon to the Rogers 'Ravensborne' amp Grant. I don't have one of those only a 'Ravensbrook' spotted a Akai '4000D' at the back :) .. Ive tried getting an older Akai '3000D' for a few years now but they dont crop up much in the condition i lust after..

In my opinion, you would be better off looking for a Series 6 Tandberg or a Tandberg 3000 reel-to-reel machine. They may use an un-sophisticated gated 'gear change' function control, but were much better machines than the 4000D.

struth
07-05-2014, 09:47
What do you recon to the Rogers 'Ravensborne' amp Grant. I don't have one of those only a 'Ravensbrook' spotted a Akai '4000D' at the back :) .. Ive tried getting an older Akai '3000D' for a few years now but they dont crop up much in the condition i lust after..
I like the ravensbourne. Very good for its year..got it fettled from a guy on the wam I think...it is running through a pair of canton speakers and it is nice. Has supposedly got a phono stage but not tried it.the phones switch I think now turns it into a pre I think.

The akai tape is working fine apart from the on off switch. In fact I am toying with the idea of selling it if you know anyone interested.

Gordon Steadman
07-05-2014, 09:53
I like the ravensbourne. Very good for its year..got it fettled from a guy on the wam I think...it is running through a pair of canton speakers and it is nice. Has supposedly got a phono stage but not tried it.the phones switch I think now turns it into a pre I think.

The akai tape is working fine apart from the on off switch. In fact I am toying with the idea of selling it if you know anyone interested.

I think the 'bourne' was the better model of the two? I have the 'brook' and its a lovely little amp, I still use it as my main headphone amp and, in spite of its age, it works perfectly. The phono stage is not quite up to the Firebottle though:eyebrows:

struth
07-05-2014, 10:07
I think the 'bourne' was the better model of the two? I have the 'brook' and its a lovely little amp, I still use it as my main headphone amp and, in spite of its age, it works perfectly. The phono stage is not quite up to the Firebottle though:eyebrows:

Do u know if it is a mm or mc Gordon ?

Gordon Steadman
07-05-2014, 10:14
Do u know if it is a mm or mc Gordon ?
I take it you mean the Rogers?

Its MM

struth
07-05-2014, 10:17
Thanks .. was just wondering ..my one has new op transistors etc in it and sounds pretty good with a CD player

walpurgis
07-05-2014, 10:21
I think the 'bourne' was the better model of the two? I have the 'brook' and its a lovely little amp, I still use it as my main headphone amp and, in spite of its age, it works perfectly. The phono stage is not quite up to the Firebottle though:eyebrows:

Whilst the Ravensbourne has a little more grunt, I slightly prefered the Ravensbrook for sound quality. I've owned a few of each at one time or another, they are both decent seventies British integrateds though. I had a Ravensbrook driving a pair of AR4xa speakers for a while and the combination was very musical.

Gordon Steadman
07-05-2014, 10:35
the combination was very musical.

That sums it up. Its strange how specifications tell so little sometimes. I compared it directly to the Arcam Alpha and the wife's Pioneer A757 and I find it so much easier to understand the music and relax into it. Dare I say it but it sounds sort of 'valvelike' :scratch:

struth
07-05-2014, 10:37
Was just checking and it was tube hunter from this domain I got it from. He replaced the output stage basically.. Transformer, caps and put Tesla op,s in.
He did a nice job, and it is a keeper.

struth
08-05-2014, 20:29
Ordered one of these these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171106161960?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649) this afternoon on a whim...never heard of them b4 but look pretty cool..hoping it sounds good too....will report my findings.

walpurgis
08-05-2014, 20:38
Ordered one of these these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171106161960?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649) this afternoon on a whim...never heard of them b4 but look pretty cool..hoping it sounds good too....will report my findings.

They are apparently quite popular on AOS. I believe Marco has recently got one and is doing comparisons.

struth
08-05-2014, 21:04
Must be pretty decent if the boss has one ;) .....esteemed company ...lol

struth
09-05-2014, 11:48
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/09/vy9uny7u.jpg

Arrived next day..super quick. First impressions are the percussion is better as is bass. Does look good. Might have preferred a white one

walpurgis
09-05-2014, 15:59
That does look nice in black. Sets the arm off well.

struth
09-05-2014, 20:25
It is rather nice Geoff. It sounds pretty good as well. I was not sure when it came out the box, as it is very thin, but I have now played a number of albums on this, and my normal one and it is certainly a fair bit better.

The 2020i q acoustics speakers and stands are coming on Monday, so another new toy to play with..have a set of 2010's upstairs on feet and they are very good, so I am hoping the 2020i's will be even better. I got some mit speaker cable today as well and it is rather nice.. also have a run of van damme coming as I intend running them bi amped like the quads.

walpurgis
09-05-2014, 20:34
Not used MIT cable, I wouldn't mind trying some, it seems to be well thought of. I've got too many cables as it is though.

struth
10-05-2014, 09:58
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/10/sytuvu6e.jpg
another piccie. The MIT cable starts to Improve and think it will continue to do so being quite new when I got it

walpurgis
10-05-2014, 11:14
Ha, I've got one of those little record pucks. Can't remember who made it though. I don't use it much, I have a home made one I use mostly.

wiicrackpot
10-05-2014, 11:25
Grant, i am intrigued by your SRM Arezzo, how did you come to it?, what did you compared it with?,
though i am a committed Garrard idler user, sometimes i yearn for the subtlety,detail,transparent,
even handedness etc...of a good belt drive, so much so i am thinking of seeking a cheap but good belt drive for that odd occasion i want that fix.

struth
10-05-2014, 11:29
Ha, I've got one of those little record pucks. Can't remember who made it though. I don't use it much, I have a home made one I use mostly.

Geoff that one is made by Stuart at SRM tech.its called a soft clamp, it is light but slightly sticky.works well.

struth
10-05-2014, 11:31
Grant, i am intrigued by your SRM Arezzo, how did you come to it?, what did you compared it with?,
though i am a committed Garrard idler user, sometimes i yearn for the subtlety,detail,transparent,
even handedness etc...of a good belt drive, so much so i am thinking of seeking a cheap but good belt drive for that odd occasion i want that fix.

Got talking to Stuart at SRM and he did me a deal on one of the first ones made way back when. Think mine is number 10.
If u ever fancy a listen, and are ever near Bath gate, pop in mate

walpurgis
10-05-2014, 11:35
Geoff that one is made by Stuart at SRM tech.its called a soft clamp, it is light but slightly sticky.works well.

I should have remembered. It works well enough. I found the edges of the sorbothane insert frayed a bit at the spindle hole.

struth
10-05-2014, 12:05
Mine is fairly new but I can see that may be a weak point as I think it is beginning to wear there. Along with that I have sorbothane damping on the arm as well, so I am well covered that way.
And just bought 8 big sorbothane feet for the Ditton's I should be getting for the shed system next week...bouncy bouncy:lol:

wiicrackpot
10-05-2014, 12:06
Got talking to Stuart at SRM and he did me a deal on one of the first ones made way back when. Think mine is number 10.
If u ever fancy a listen, and are ever near Bath gate, pop in mate
Yeah Grant, will take you up on that if i'm in your neck of the woods, you never know where my Satnav takes me. :)

walpurgis
10-05-2014, 18:48
Good stuff sorbothane. I just quietened a buzzy transformer in a DAC with a small pad of the stuff under the lid!

struth
12-05-2014, 14:04
My speakers and stands have arrived...whoops! They look a bit bigger than the 2010's

Pics to follow:lol:

struth
12-05-2014, 19:17
Some pictures as promised...These 2020's are super...the bass extension and fantastic treble are a thing to behold for such a small cab.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/836/dz25.jpg

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damn near knackered myself building these...I'll be a geriatric soon :lol:

struth
16-05-2014, 14:12
Got a new toy today ...an aikido clone pre amp I believe built by tubehunter.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/16/4uhyzuja.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/16/y2eqe4az.jpg

Sounds fabulous. Cannot express how good this sounds

costerdock
17-05-2014, 17:42
Very beautiful preamp you have there - I bet it sounds as good as it looks. Great system overall.

Thanks,

struth
18-05-2014, 11:33
Cheers Chris. The pre is super, just thinking about moving it indoors although it will mean a major change of boxes me thinks/....hopes:lol: becoming a box swapper myself

agk
18-05-2014, 11:37
Absolutely gorgeous pre that. If it sounds half as good as it looks you'll need scraping off the floor.

struth
18-05-2014, 23:42
Absolutely gorgeous pre that. If it sounds half as good as it looks you'll need scraping off the floor.

Your not wrong Andrew....it is moving, but only into my main system..big changes because of the little blighter:lol:

the 2c51 gold pins in it make it very special.

struth
21-05-2014, 17:52
Well the Whest 2 arrived and was installed into my main system.....then promptly taken out again:doh: ....it did not oust the Nak, so it has been installed into the studio system, where is sounds better with the extra gain of the Aikido clone pre. a it only has 2 inputs I have added a switching box supplied by a kind wam member....Frank, of this parish has also sent me one(very kind of him too) and it may be used rather than the current one if it has more inputs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/839/fvkc.jpg

The Whest, on the Aikido is very good; the extra gain seems to work here, but it did not sound as good as the Nak...ah well, nothing ventured nothing gained (excuse the pun)

struth
24-05-2014, 18:25
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/3e3ebagy.jpg
quick picture of my valve amp system; sounding fabulous...Paul Simon never sounded better.

struth
28-05-2014, 14:36
Some changes at chez Struth.
quite pleased with the results

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/28/a6a5u3uz.jpg

struth
28-05-2014, 14:37
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/28/6usa7are.jpg

struth
28-05-2014, 23:28
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/844/w6to.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/843/k16m.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/834/75jum.jpg

struth
07-06-2014, 13:09
Got the carbon set up. Alas no phone stage yet so can't comment on sound yet. Also have a wall shelf coming for it


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/hejenaje.jpg

ppat2
09-06-2014, 22:52
Grant, nice setup. It really looks purpose built, no fooling around. That is a system built for listening.

BTW, whatever happened to "I think I'm finished"?

Since the last time I said the same, I have picked up a Linn Akurate Kontrol preamp (new model, 2 channel) and a Clearaudio Talismann V2 Gold. Must be done now? Doh!

Scary thing is, the CA Talismann has shown me another level of what's possible. Good thing the cartridge looks close enough to the last one and the preamp is in a cabinet and same color as some of my other gear. I just "moved things about", no changes....

struth
12-06-2014, 09:09
Thanks pat. Yep I was a tad premature with that title.
New arrival the firebottle plus is just now singing to me. Have to say that Alan Is On To A winner

struth
12-06-2014, 09:14
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/ezasy9e8.jpg

You can really hear the difference in the first picture:rolleyes:

Gordon Steadman
12-06-2014, 09:16
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/2ugajamu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/a2aqa7em.jpg

You can really hear the difference in the first picture:rolleyes:

You must get a terrible crick in the neck listening to that:)

struth
12-06-2014, 09:36
Cockup on the tapatalk/new phone front:o

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/zasamu3u.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/e2yqu5uq.jpg

One of them I suspect the camera was rotating everything to landscape. And tapa talk has no edit features now. doh!

Ah well it has really warmed up now and sounds superb.finally found something to oust the nak. Room in the rack now for my other dac so I can try another experiment.

struth
12-06-2014, 09:50
Grant, nice setup. It really looks purpose built, no fooling around. That is a system built for listening.

BTW, whatever happened to "I think I'm finished"?

Since the last time I said the same, I have picked up a Linn Akurate Kontrol preamp (new model, 2 channel) and a Clearaudio Talismann V2 Gold. Must be done now? Doh!

Scary thing is, the CA Talismann has shown me another level of what's possible. Good thing the cartridge looks close enough to the last one and the preamp is in a cabinet and same color as some of my other gear. I just "moved things about", no changes....
I always kinda fancied some linn gear but it never happened . hope the new gear has u finished now although like me it will never be finished til I expire

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 10:25
So the FB has landed. Is that mm/mc?

struth
12-06-2014, 10:36
Yep.. it's mm. High mm or mc as I got it adj to suit although the there is enough gain on the standard setting .The whest 2 was not as much gain and I was worried so got the extra setting in case.
You'll like it. Think Gary is having a get together so if I can make it ill bring it along

struth
12-06-2014, 13:15
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/nadajeza.jpg

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 14:19
Yep.. it's mm. High mm or mc as I got it adj to suit although the there is enough gain on the standard setting .The whest 2 was not as much gain and I was worried so got the extra setting in case.
You'll like it. Think Gary is having a get together so if I can make it ill bring it along

Good stuff, be interesting to compare to the two boxer.

struth
12-06-2014, 15:09
Got the project carbon connected to the nak, then the aikido then the power.pre to pre to power. Sounds excellent, although I don't like the little lifting arm on the head. Terrible design.

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 15:13
Lifting arm on the head?

struth
12-06-2014, 15:30
aye, the finger lever on the arm head on TT...its short, straight and slidey ....I prefer the ones that have a finger shape....also the arm has to be lifted high to return to the cradle....Guess I'll get used to it but ive dropped the damn thing twice already.:steam:

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 16:24
Use the lift at t'other end and ignore the finger lift. Safer that way methinks.

Gazjam
12-06-2014, 20:56
Yep.. it's mm. High mm or mc as I got it adj to suit although the there is enough gain on the standard setting .The whest 2 was not as much gain and I was worried so got the extra setting in case.
You'll like it. Think Gary is having a get together so if I can make it ill bring it along

Aye, sure thing,
Just got a Firebottle 2 MM, Board Meeting at mine when she turn up.
Hopefully by then I'll have the Gyro set up!

Be interesting to do a high end digital / vinyl comparison?

@Ali,
Stompy sounds pretty awesome on the Edingdales with the new speaker cable, be cool to compare the vinyl?

struth
12-06-2014, 21:02
Aye, sure thing,
Just got a Firebottle 2 MM, Board Meeting at mine when she turn up.
Hopefully by then I'll have the Gyro set up!

Be interesting to do a high end digital / vinyl comparison?

@Ali,
Stompy sounds pretty awesome on the Edingdales with the new speaker cable, be cool to compare the vinyl?

Firebottle 2; is that the plus Gary ?

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 21:17
Aye, sure thing,
Just got a Firebottle 2 MM, Board Meeting at mine when she turn up.
Hopefully by then I'll have the Gyro set up!

Be interesting to do a high end digital / vinyl comparison?

@Ali,
Stompy sounds pretty awesome on the Edingdales with the new speaker cable, be cool to compare the vinyl?

Aye, I'll bring it along.

Ali Tait
12-06-2014, 21:18
Firebottle 2; is that the plus Gary ?


Aye tis.

struth
19-06-2014, 19:12
Finally found my alen keys and got the cage off the yaqin for its clean. Noticed the key is broken off the bottom of one of the output valves which had me thinking for a minute as to putting it back in. Took a quick snap with the cage off. Looks quite good actually.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/20/ajyzudyd.jpg

struth
19-06-2014, 20:53
As the title says, I think I may well be finished now.:eyebrows: .....MAYBE.....POSSIBLY....................

struth
25-07-2014, 19:42
One small addition to the system.....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/904/leVXg1.jpg


got it from Stan earlier in week...now that I have it installed and done some listening, I can confidently say it gets 11 out of 10.

Marco
25-07-2014, 20:14
Finally found my alen keys and got the cage off the yaqin for its clean. Noticed the key is broken off the bottom of one of the output valves which had me thinking for a minute as to putting it back in. Took a quick snap with the cage off. Looks quite good actually.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/20/ajyzudyd.jpg

I had one of those, Grant - nice amps! However, have you ensured that yours is 100% safe for use on UK mains? Forget about the manufacturer saying that it is, as in practice (without the use of a voltage step-down transformer), I found out to my cost that they have a habit of rather spectacularly going 'pop'!! :eek:

Marco.

struth
25-07-2014, 20:18
I had one of those, Grant - nice amps! However, have you ensured that yours is 100% safe for use on UK mains? Forget about the manufacturer saying that it is, as in practice (without the use of a voltage step-down transformer), I found out to my cost that they have a habit of rather spectacularly going 'pop'!! :eek:

Marco.


Indeed I have Marco. It is fed through a bucking tx to supply it with the correct 220v it was designed for....works great, and for the money; stunning. it has never blinked so far.....now I'm off to find a big dod o' wood.:eek:

Macca
25-07-2014, 21:01
One small addition to the system.....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/904/leVXg1.jpg


got it from Stan earlier in week...now that I have it installed and done some listening, I can confidently say it gets 11 out of 10.

A Beresford humidor. Nice.

Seriously though I have no idea what it is?

struth
25-07-2014, 21:19
Sorry Martin; thought I said....its an async1 usb to spdif convertor....it has the very newest chip in....once I persuaded my ageing laptop that I use for music to accept the driver, is is really good and light on resources too.

Macca
25-07-2014, 21:35
Thanks Grant. I was scratching my head a bit there. You probably did say earlier and I missed it.

struth
25-07-2014, 21:44
:) ...love the avatar by the way......probably my favorite war film and main tune.

Macca
25-07-2014, 21:58
:) ...love the avatar by the way......probably my favorite war film and main tune.

I like it because it is a sort of anti-war film but not in the conventional vein of anti-war films. They are just ordinary blokes trying to get something for themselves out of what they consider to be madness. The Germans too, in the end. I read that it was originally planned to be a more serious film but the studio changed hands and the new owners cut it to be a bit more slapstick. Eastwood wasn't happy and offered to re-cut it for free but they weren't interested.

I could bore for England on 'Kelly's Heroes', sorry about that :)

struth
25-07-2014, 22:12
nowt boring about it...i'm a film buff as well :lol: Clint could be a dick in those days tbh... Don Rickles was immense and made the film tbh....that and the Main theme by Mike Curb

Macca
25-07-2014, 22:40
Clint gets the worst part really, but he does it well. I think Telly Savalas gives the best performance as Big Joe. He has to play it straight and serious or the film doesn't work and he is totally convincing in it. He's so natural you don't really notice it, always the mark of a great actor.

And yes, the theme tune is a killer especially when it kicks in with just the drums to begin with right at the end. I love that bit.

struth
28-07-2014, 21:20
Got the Carbon sb running through the Nak, then the copper pre. it is actually a lovely sounding deck. Johnny Cash sounded superb.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/674/JDZOPl.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/539/nXtv1E.jpg

jandl100
29-07-2014, 07:50
Kelley's Heroes, eh? :scratch:

Never seen it. Now on order! Thanks for the reccie. :thumbsup:

Jimbo
29-07-2014, 11:33
Kelley's Heroes, eh? :scratch:

Never seen it. Now on order! Thanks for the reccie. :thumbsup:

Kellys Heroes - seen it Dozens of times and still enjoy it - especially Oddball!

struth
11-09-2014, 12:50
Been adjusting the amplification again in the shed putting the copper back in and adding the Tilbury as a TT switchbox

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/11/3fa950532ae93cd0f30ce42a9cde0f12.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/11/91ad5d448fe351c6639c4f0301e1350b.jpg

struth
12-09-2014, 14:27
Finished the feet on the clone

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/12/6f355645af95e1929f9fb004718b5709.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/12/737f472b529ba09b6115c4fd67b774cd.jpg

struth
13-09-2014, 16:21
A nice close up of the cheek of the pre after some shellac and wax

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/13/5c56ba2d8d50bb94e5763d29c06da7da.jpg

struth
24-09-2014, 15:45
Latest addion is now finished.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/ncBode.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/904/vMMa0e.jpg

Gordon Steadman
24-09-2014, 16:33
That does look rather nice. I like those covers, must look out for one.

Marco
24-09-2014, 20:17
That’s a lovely example, Grant - hope you enjoy it making lots of lovely music! :)

Marco.

struth
24-09-2014, 21:18
That does look rather nice. I like those covers, must look out for one.

He sells them(the covers) on Ebay Gordon.





That’s a lovely example, Grant - hope you enjoy it making lots of lovely music!

Marco.

Thanks mate, I am very happy with it. it sounds as good as it looks ;)

Paul Lange
24-09-2014, 22:04
Now that is a man-cave if ever I saw one. Struth, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness on the Belkin Pure AV mains conditioner, do you think they work?

struth
24-09-2014, 22:21
Now that is a man-cave if ever I saw one. Struth, what are your thoughts on the effectiveness on the Belkin Pure AV mains conditioner, do you think they work?

I think much depends on your supply to be fair. I have a lot of factories close by and a new Electric rail line very close and I have found that it does make a marked difference. I have 2 of the 40's and also have a proper BT one as well. 1 for each of my systems and I would not want to go back to being without. Guess if your mains is pretty clean then they will not do much. They are also good at switching the gear on and off in the correct order and they do protect against surges well too, so for the outlay I'd say it's a no brainer just for those.

struth
26-09-2014, 20:59
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/OQ2ujM.jpg

Moved it indoors for a spell with the Firebottle.

tiguan
27-09-2014, 09:46
Looks beautiful. Even when you are not listening, put a chair infront and watch. That type beautiful...

Paul Lange
27-09-2014, 10:10
That deck is a stunner.

Tarzan
27-09-2014, 10:47
That deck is a stunner.

x2 Lovely!:stalks:

Gazjam
27-09-2014, 13:31
Even better in the flesh.
Great work on the plinth a real piece of craftsmanship.

Paul Lange
27-09-2014, 14:27
Struth, How did you get the mitres so accurate (assuming that the photo doesn't cover a multitude of sins)? Did you manage to cut them with a saw?

struth
27-09-2014, 15:18
They are absolutely spot on. I used all my skill and craft and got someone to do it for me. He was an expert and I believe in the right man for the job.:eyebrows:

Tbh you cannot feel the joints at all. I believe he does one piece at a time and leaves it to settle. That's why it took a month

Gazjam
27-09-2014, 15:27
The plinth is as good a finish as you could possibly want, as Grant said you cant feel the mitre joints at all.
Perfectly smooth and not just because there's 3mm of hard clear varnish over it!

Superb finish and standard of work, as good as I've seen.

struth
27-09-2014, 15:32
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/27/062b7747622d244ec540019b636acdc5.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/27/b41b0a112bb0d947afb2ae946bd09be7.jpg
Now with adc head she'll and aurum classic cart

Paul Lange
27-09-2014, 17:01
Where did you get the plinth? I was looking to make a surround for my Garrard 401 / Slate plinth but by time I buy the wood cut it, do the mitres, which will take ages with the tools I have and knock it all up I feel tired just thinking about it.

struth
27-09-2014, 17:55
It was a guy down Bristol direction who sells the covers and does thorens plinths on occasion. If you look for those perspex cover on the bay you'll find him. Dunno if he does others like Garrard 's though. It would be a differeny template etc. he has some thorens gear you see.

wiicrackpot
27-09-2014, 20:28
It was a guy down Bristol direction who sells the covers and does thorens plinths on occasion. If you look for those perspex cover on the bay you'll find him. Dunno if he does others like Garrard 's though. It would be a differeny template etc. he has some thorens gear you see.

What??, that's not a Russ Collinson creation?, respect to the guy and a beautiful player Grant.

struth
27-09-2014, 20:56
What??, that's not a Russ Collinson creation?, respect to the guy and a beautiful player Grant.

Hi Andy; no, not him....might actually be Somerset area, but down there abouts.....Its come up well.....The wife says she prefers the look of the Arezzo :doh:


NO PLEASING SOME FOLK!!!!!

struth
27-09-2014, 21:37
Have done some better pictures with a real camera as the others were with the phone. Hope it don't bore you.:D


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/EEuuI0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/JCHeVf.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/DnPiYo.jpg

Andrei
27-09-2014, 21:56
Have done some better pictures with a real camera as the others were with the phone. Hope it don't bore you.:D

I am a big believer in Hi-Fi looking good as well as sounding good, but this in another league - Hi-Fi Jewelry Grant. The cork mat sits so well (visually) with the wooden plinth. The only downside I can think of is that you will now have to hire another servant to do the dusting.

Roy S
27-09-2014, 22:09
Good to see the good ole ADC headshell, what's the cart? How does this compare with the Sumiko/Ortofon combo you had in it before?

struth
27-09-2014, 22:18
Good to see the good ole ADC headshell, what's the cart? How does this compare with the Sumiko/Ortofon combo you had in it before?


Cart is a Clearaudio Aurum classic(metal body). The Shumiko was too heavy unfortunately and even with the OM20 was pretty much at its limit. The ADC is about 5 grams lighter. Sound wise there is little in it I'd say although when I ran the combo it was way too heavy ....sounded great but in the silent bits you could actually hear the bearing. The Shumiko looks better though.......never mind it looks pretty cool in its own way, and will just leave it I think. Gonna try the ortofon on the arezzo. It might be very good with the setup.

Roy S
27-09-2014, 22:30
Anyway Grant it's certainly a thing of beauty, all you need now is some bigger speakers ;)

struth
27-09-2014, 22:37
The Q's are pretty punchy, and will see me out I think.

struth
01-10-2014, 19:17
Got one of these on order

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/hDbjSb.jpg

....thought it might look good.

walpurgis
01-10-2014, 19:38
The Q's are pretty punchy, and will see me out I think.

Well that's optimistic Grant.

As the doctor said to me "if you take it easy and give up smoking and drinking, you may make it back to your car" :)

Gazjam
01-10-2014, 19:42
Got one of these on order

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/hDbjSb.jpg

....thought it might look good.

ooh, I like wood.

struth
01-10-2014, 21:26
ooh, I like wood.


If I dont like it, I'll put it up for sale...its coming from the States

Andrei
01-10-2014, 21:53
Got one of these on order

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/hDbjSb.jpg

....thought it might look good.

From the pics it's a darn near perfect match for the plinth. Just hope it does the sonic goods.

struth
01-10-2014, 22:10
Probably a bit lighter colour but not much; its a good weight at 9 grams so should take most carts. They say it sounds great, but they would.

struth
08-10-2014, 11:34
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/08/79c9b82a594b8b927330822a18f1ed07.jpg

Headshell arrives from usa and is lovely. Nice glossy feel to it and a good size finger lift

struth
09-10-2014, 10:41
The beovox speakers have arrived. Survived well and look great. Better condition than I expected.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/d4ab59bdae56bcfcf7b5fd4a58e049df.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/cec30fbabe192eb75db2fab4f7d2b77d.jpg

struth
09-10-2014, 11:12
A picture of the rears. They have adjustments for midrange and treble plus a port for external tweeter
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/85bb839382a7c9419770305fe7624933.jpg

walpurgis
09-10-2014, 11:58
The B&Os look in nice condition Grant. Which model are they and what's behind the grilles?

Macca
09-10-2014, 12:05
What's the deal with the external tweeter?

struth
09-10-2014, 12:51
BeoVox 3000 type 6238:
Dimensions W x H x D 63,5 x 28 x 30,5 cm
Weight 12 kg
Performance
Music load 60 W
Continuous load 40 W RMS (DIN 45,573)
Frequency response 28 - 20,000 Hz (DIN 45,570)
Distortion Max. 1,5 % (DIN 45,403)
Sensitivity 4 W (DIN 45,500)
Crossover frequency 2 kHz/10 kHz
Capacity 37 litres
Resonance of woofer 24 Hz
Dispersion 120°
Nubmer of units
Bass unit 1 x 25cm
Mid-range 1 x dome unit
Tweeter 2 x 5cm

You can connect beovox 2500 cube speakers to it to enhance the highs. 1 woofer, 1 mid and 2 tweeters in the pressure chamber box. Actually I believe the fronts have been used upside down.

struth
09-10-2014, 12:54
I would imagine any 4 ohm tweeter could be used. Any suggestions?

struth
09-10-2014, 13:42
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/09/8ba3174c3b01c6ebe071972e15cbed1f.jpg

istari_knight
09-10-2014, 13:53
I wonder what manufacturer the drive units are from ? Philips maybe ?

struth
09-10-2014, 14:02
I wonder what manufacturer the drive units are from ? Philips maybe ?

The slightly later 3800's were Goodman drivers and Philips tweeters so may be the same

Mr Kipling
09-10-2014, 14:13
I think they look better with their clothes on. Not very nice in the nuddy!

walpurgis
09-10-2014, 19:54
The slightly later 3800's were Goodman drivers and Philips tweeters so may be the same

No, those are definitely not Goodmans. Could be Peerless, Audax or Isophon? You can never tell what to expect from B&O, the lovely Beovox 5700 and 5702 were all Celestion.

I'd imagine there's just a series capacitor feeding the auxiliary tweeter. For safety's sake I'd suggest using as high an impedance as possible if you feel like trying it, 16 ohm should do nicely. That way you don't drop the overall impedance too much.

struth
09-10-2014, 20:36
No, those are definitely not Goodmans. Could be Peerless, Audax or Isophon? You can never tell what to expect from B&O, the lovely Beovox 5700 and 5702 were all Celestion.

I'd imagine there's just a series capacitor feeding the auxiliary tweeter. For safety's sake I'd suggest using as high an impedance as possible if you feel like trying it, 16 ohm should do nicely. That way you don't drop the overall impedance too much.

Hi Geoff, I found this info online and it says this about the connectors...Connections:
Output Tweeter 4 ohms
Input DIN socket - 4 ohms

I know the cubes are pretty much unobtanium so I doubt I'll find any. so will just try them as is for now. Dunno if you could later use a sit on top horn type or not; its not really my knowledge field tbh. Have you got any ideas about changing the dins to binding posts? I was thinking of putting a couple of boxes on the back and addind a binding plate to each. That way I could take it off and put it back to original easily Or is there a better method.??

walpurgis
09-10-2014, 22:13
Hi Geoff, I found this info online and it says this about the connectors...Connections:
Output Tweeter 4 ohms
Input DIN socket - 4 ohms

I know the cubes are pretty much unobtanium so I doubt I'll find any. so will just try them as is for now. Dunno if you could later use a sit on top horn type or not; its not really my knowledge field tbh. Have you got any ideas about changing the dins to binding posts? I was thinking of putting a couple of boxes on the back and addind a binding plate to each. That way I could take it off and put it back to original easily Or is there a better method.??

I'd not worry too much about originality Grant. A pair of something like these would do the job: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Way-Speaker-Box-Terminal-Connector-Binding-Post-Spring-Clip-Wall-Plate-Socket-/171455758890?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Ca bles_Adapters&hash=item27eb8f422a

Just blank off old connectors.

As for the auxiliary tweeter. Regardless of what it says online, I'd avoid a 4 ohm tweeter. That would possibly give you a load of around 2 ohms at high frequencies if it's a parallel connection. Not good! 16 ohms would be far safer.

struth
09-10-2014, 22:24
I'd not worry too much about originality Grant. A pair of something like these would do the job: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Way-Speaker-Box-Terminal-Connector-Binding-Post-Spring-Clip-Wall-Plate-Socket-/171455758890?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Ca bles_Adapters&hash=item27eb8f422a

Just blank off old connectors.

As for the auxiliary tweeter. Regardless of what it says online, I'd avoid a 4 ohm tweeter. That would possibly give you a load of around 2 ohms at high frequencies if it's a parallel connection. Not good! 16 ohms would be far safer.

Cheers Geoff...good info. I will endeavour to persevere

struth
09-10-2014, 22:38
These are the ones you were supposed to use but as I say are unlikely to come along, and if they did would likely be silly money.

http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=443


Think they should be fine as the are tbh, but f I come across any nice 16 ohm horns or the like I might get them depending if I of course like the 3000's :eyebrows:


Going to put the binding posts on and redo the finish as there are some serious marks over the dark days to come.

struth
13-10-2014, 10:04
Apparently the beovox 3000 were late 60's ..68/69 and cost £100 then, so a fair amount . out put is I believe 25 watts and if the external tweeter socket was used it disconnected the 2 internal ones in this model. No idea what the sensitivity is but probably not great.

walpurgis
13-10-2014, 10:27
No idea what the sensitivity is but probably not great.

I reckon the sensitivity should be good, Those are light paper cones and I'll bet the magnets are decent. I'm assuming they are 4 ohm speakers, so I reckon you'll find they're maybe around a 90db/Watt speaker.

struth
13-10-2014, 10:44
The tweeters are anyways. Sensitivity is stated as 4 watts whatever that means

walpurgis
13-10-2014, 10:47
That's an old DIN rating I believe. Not sure how you work that out, but there's bound to be a formula somewhere.

Beobloke
13-10-2014, 14:28
Only just seen this thread but those speakers look good, Grant!

As part of your service regime for them, you might like to consider cleaning the contacts of the socket for the external tweeter and replacing the capacitors that are in series with the tweeters. A friend of mine has just done this to the Mk1 Beovox 5000s I acquired for him (which have four of the tweeters per channel) and reports that this activity has now increased treble output considerably, from "very little" to "not enough"! :D

Don't get too excited by the thought of the add-on Beovox 2500 tweeters either - they're just six of the same cone drivers in a box and all they really do is spray what treble there is in all directions, rather than enhancing it as such.

As to efficiency, the Beovox 5000s are surprisingly efficient so I wouldn't expect the Beovox 3000s to be much worse. This is all odd, given that the 5000s were designed to be used with B&O's then most powerful amplifier, the Beolab 5000... :scratch:

struth
13-10-2014, 14:33
Nice info Adam. The speaker binding posts just came in the mail so I'll get them done and try them out

struth
15-10-2014, 23:26
Thought I'd add these pics to my page.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/O7EBPh.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/yOvKOC.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/MU1x5b.jpg

struth
19-10-2014, 18:08
And a couple of my crappy China jobbie. Lol

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/19/0b2d69b12033b88482cf9537af5cebc8.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/19/d01d9f0c945b42e947414c276d1c1ff6.jpg

struth
19-10-2014, 23:01
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/mqN96j.jpg

walpurgis
19-10-2014, 23:11
Does your speaker positioning work Grant. It looks a bit awkward, but you can never tell. :)

struth
19-10-2014, 23:24
Seem to have lost my pc connection

struth
19-10-2014, 23:27
Yes it does work in my seat. It's not ideal and would have preferred the speakers to be in the same positions as the quads but it did not look right. Eye like things to look right and swmbo needs appeasing lol

PC is back.....have made a couple of adjustments.....been a funny day re the broadband.

walpurgis
19-10-2014, 23:48
PC is back.....have made a couple of adjustments.....been a funny day re the broadband.

I've had a few broadband dropouts today and I'm on an Ethernet cable connection, not WiFi. First time I've had that since the new account.

struth
20-10-2014, 00:00
The pc has dropped out 3 times today and once yesterday. I have switched off a personal protection module in MWB to see if that is the problem. Funny but my tablet was odd today as well so I switched browser to Puffin and t was going rediculously fast. They have been switching on the fibre box in the area, so some of the trouble may relate to that.

struth
20-10-2014, 15:22
Well my denon cart arrived today but as i trieddto fit it to the headshell i find the screws too short.:doh: so will have to put the fitting on hold till i source some long ones

jandl100
21-10-2014, 06:37
And a couple of my crappy China jobbie. Lol

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/19/0b2d69b12033b88482cf9537af5cebc8.jpg

Hey :nono: - nothing wrong with that amp, imo - looks good, sounds good :thumbsup:

So how do the B&O speakers compare to your Qs, Grant? I was much impressed by Gromit's Qs at last year's Scalford show.

struth
21-10-2014, 08:14
So how do the B&O speakers compare to your Qs, Grant? I was much impressed by Gromit's Qs at last year's Scalford show.


I don't know yet as I have yet to find time to convert the dins to binders Jerry. Problem is where to put the binding plates and make them look ok? must try and get it done soon. In fact I might just leave them hard wired and stick some plugs on them



Hey - nothing wrong with that amp, imo - looks good, sounds good

If you run them off 220v they are great fun. not had any problems with it....it was a riposte to the anti Chinese brigade;)

struth
21-10-2014, 14:15
Well i have connected the beovox3000 up to my studio system. They get loud quick. Too quick and bass is not getting driven hard enough and will need a big room so its giving a light sound. As i dont listen to music loud enough these 4 ohmers aint going to do me. Reconnected the tannoys and they blew these away.

So theyll have to go.

struth
21-10-2014, 17:34
Think the problem or part of it is the P500 amp which I have a feeling is 8 ohm. might if still got them, one day get the mighty yaqin on the front end of them.....it does 4 ohm.

struth
23-10-2014, 11:37
Got a fancy new mat from the States today. What do you think?

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/39d7120ff368b1a9edd32cb51e19960e.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/02840f8b46914088b91ff5c8836fe33d.jpg


They don't show up but it has small discs of the corkstone to raise the record. Not had a listen yet!

walpurgis
23-10-2014, 11:43
That looks different. What is it, cork composite?

struth
23-10-2014, 11:58
That looks different. What is it, cork composite?

It is a high grade cork Geoff called corkstone. It is denser than standard cork. It also has the raising discs like the resomat . not sure if i prefer it or not.

struth
23-10-2014, 12:47
Hey.... This is good!

struth
23-10-2014, 14:51
Fitted the denon to the light wood headshell. And set up at 1.8 gram. It sounds very good although is seems to be finding tics in the vinyl that were not there before. Maybe deeper in groove but sounds pretty good. Output is pretty close to the aurum.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/8358885cf1632c407e239be64c6770b7.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/7bddd009bb7ba4ef81c9f52fa77e4c16.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/362ec853407db4a97d89ce4c6cf82d44.jpg

struth
23-10-2014, 14:55
Noticed in that pic the headshell was a little askew. Handy things pictures. Now straightened
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/a127482418c07534771fc5777c791458.jpg

walpurgis
23-10-2014, 14:56
It's funny, the DL-110 is slightly prone to revealing surface noise. Yet the DL-160 (next model up and my favourite HO MC) is the opposite, smooth sounding and possibly the quietest cartridge on surface noise that I've heard. If you spot one in good nick second hand I'd recommend it. You can no longer get new ones.

struth
23-10-2014, 14:59
Think the tip is smaller in the 160 and cantilever is a different shape. Don't know why they stop making classics. I had one on radar and got distracted by family and missed it...ggrrrrrr

struth
23-10-2014, 15:33
Seems to have got rid of a fair bit of those occasional tics adjusting the azimuth. Just played Streets by Ralph McTell and it sounded fab. Better bass the mid was clearer too. It is not bad with surface noise but seems to pick up on anything deep in the groove. Will leave it like this for a few weeks and see what think then.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/948c6e6ca9eff34f13350867521f452d.jpg

struth
23-10-2014, 20:36
Did some hi res ones for my library. here's a selection.

]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/633/jS1eEj.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/673/E5NVt4.jpg


]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/673/hvTBwd.jpg


]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/537/iJ6GMR.jpg

tiguan
24-10-2014, 07:47
Nice pictures... I like natural materials always more... İ asked myself later why İ did my speaker cabinet just black....
Additionaly İ found nice effects of Maple and Ebony things, say Spike for example in my system. One of my friend put electrical socket group inside a Maple box.. İ did not feel much difference there but the view was nice.

struth
24-10-2014, 15:59
Its difficult to say if there is any single bit thats done the improvement as I changed 3 things at once(bad me) but the whole is better and at the end of the day thats what I wanted....Apart from a touch of surface noise, that is probably the cart, it is fabulous. If I can get my paws on a Denon 160 I'll be sorted.:)

struth
17-11-2014, 22:09
http://www.zonerama.com/photos/19160927_477x358_16_timestamp(635497884264070000). jpg


Just trying a picture from Zonerama....it works:eek:


Got a couple of little goodies coming soon;)

struth
19-11-2014, 12:13
This came today

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/19/7079d69412f2f6c3519bba3edfdc58b6.jpg


As did this

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/19/6a2fa5cdde5a81354095749d845473aa.jpg

Which does this

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/19/7291b73f83ad1b742e7c6b480be7066d.jpg


Felt the disc could do with more support at centre. Might not work but will give it a spin.

The light is so I can see the stylus better

hermit
19-11-2014, 12:37
Nice little light. I quite fancy one of those. Please could you post a link Grant. Thanks.

KONDO
19-11-2014, 12:46
hi,grant looks like a good idea,hope it works.charlie

struth
19-11-2014, 12:52
I got it from kirdon-image on ebay. had a voucher that needed using. Think that was the last one he was going to sell till after the xmas period due to parcels goi!g astray in the rush. he does blue ones too. Heres a link to his page. They are British made for him i think and are very well done. quite heavy


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/kridon-image/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2654

hope the link works. they sometimes dont on this tablet.grrr. He may sell one if asked though.

cheers grant

struth
19-11-2014, 17:56
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/5Z8WmI.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/W7z70E.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/745/HyeRQO.jpg

struth
26-11-2014, 16:13
Finally got a cart on the arezzo and got it working again in the shed. Couldn't get the denon on. Just too difficult for me on the rega arm. I've already hurt my hip trying..annoying.
Anyways gave put the aurum on and it is sounding well. Some pics

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/26/7ab40067223bc00cffb8301fbeb2128d.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/26/99142ad295c2c84d8da7bc73f01546ea.jpg

struth
05-12-2014, 14:31
Bought a little Schiit Mani yesterday:eyebrows: all US and all man.... just waiting on it popping through the hole in the door..

looks like this

http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/10/30/de424edd-6965-4346-97a4-86594732d251/resize/770x578/d9935f7ffd9d7ad3f7cd4fa6e31a752a/mani-insitu-1000.jpg

struth
06-12-2014, 11:20
Schiit, that was quick! Next day delivery.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/06/b1d7400c2b53716961fbac3af46d4b66.jpg

Well built and heavy sporting a fmj. Dips on bottom and recessed.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/06/f3a73b5c2e14b3801730d102dc295ea1.jpg

struth
06-12-2014, 11:48
set it up to 47k load and 48 db gain. using the dl110 cart it is remarkable straight out of the box. listening to ella and louis....plenty bass. no hum issues..quiet.
at the price i have to say i am pleasently surprised

struth
06-12-2014, 12:33
well it is improving all the time..it loves ella and louis. trumpets is good double bass very good voices nicely sperated.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/06/3e4381dfb2901ed92c23dd6d8038d859.jpg

struth
06-12-2014, 21:23
Had quite a decent listen to the Schiit, and it continued to improve. Have reboxed it again as it is for a future project that may or may not get done.. much depends ......
I will say this, if anyone is looking for a phono stage and doesn't want to spend a fortune, this is one damned good bit of kit and way better than its price tag.

struth
08-12-2014, 11:22
Have gone back to the original mat as it looks better and works better with the isolation disc. Have also given the plinth a feeding

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/08/09756ce48e624f1a3089107543098f7e.jpg

Gazjam
08-12-2014, 12:27
Plinth looking good Grant.
You back to the Firebottle again?

struth
08-12-2014, 12:33
Yes I got the schiit for the other tt. May get rid of some gear and have a small system . So the nak may go. Never thought I'd say that

Meanwhile posty miss delivered an anti static gun. An old groovestat

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/08/c13aa24e7d5f9e85f4accc3e15c55d2b.jpg

struth
09-12-2014, 15:31
Got out and grabbed the clone pre. Connected it to the yaqin as a pre power combo.
Sounds real fine

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/09/747e75e6e312c8ea83d8f70f7f2cbf37.jpg

brian2957
09-12-2014, 15:39
Jeez Grant do you ever sit at peace mate :lol:

struth
09-12-2014, 16:05
Times an enemy Brian :)

So hows this for a bedroom system? my neighbour will wish he'd never started playing music late at night:lol:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/U2c1z8.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/EOZ69S.jpg

brian2957
09-12-2014, 16:26
Wow ! Music , heating and revenge at the same time . Enjoy :)

Gazjam
09-12-2014, 16:32
And the irony is Grant..
and this makes me smile every time I see this Thread title...

"I think I am finished"

whoops, there goes another system change :)

Roy S
09-12-2014, 16:38
So hows this for a bedroom system?


Like your style Grant :)

struth
09-12-2014, 19:07
And the irony is Grant..
and this makes me smile every time I see this Thread title...

"I think I am finished"

whoops, there goes another system change :)
Title altered for you Gaz.

struth
09-12-2014, 20:23
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/673/4VDVbB.jpg

Zoidburg
09-12-2014, 20:29
Hi Grant can I ask what your using to illuminate the arezzo there mate. Whatever it is it looks very good!



Finally got a cart on the arezzo and got it working again in the shed. Couldn't get the denon on. Just too difficult for me on the rega arm. I've already hurt my hip trying..annoying.
Anyways gave put the aurum on and it is sounding well. Some pics

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/26/7ab40067223bc00cffb8301fbeb2128d.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/26/99142ad295c2c84d8da7bc73f01546ea.jpg

struth
09-12-2014, 20:37
I was just trying something out to see if t would work and it did, very well...at back in middle you'll see a torch.. it is one of those led ones. Might get one of those ones that do differing colours to try too.

walpurgis
09-12-2014, 20:47
You could try a strip of car LEDs with a 12v wall wart.

struth
15-12-2014, 14:47
New slate base fitted to arezzo tt

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/15/0d1d433b97c993391ce79a2fd6627165.jpg

struth
17-12-2014, 12:43
For my mini system setup i am going to build i have now purchased the next bit...

http://www.hifiwigwam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/AmpT_Fr.jpg

should be with me tomorrow:eyebrows:
If i dont like it ill sell it pronto but Jerry rates them

struth
18-12-2014, 14:48
Amptastic mini 1 has arrived. It looks quite solid.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/18/7f42e17ce8de75f49d0a18c6e0bc05c9.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/18/a380db9d971c2fd86b06a82234b7f791.jpg

brian2957
18-12-2014, 15:10
Amptastic mini 1 has arrived. It looks quite solid.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/18/7f42e17ce8de75f49d0a18c6e0bc05c9.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/18/a380db9d971c2fd86b06a82234b7f791.jpg

These are very good little amps Grant . Remember that you can turn this into a power amp by removing a couple of links inside the casing . It's relatively simple to do and worthwhile . Instructions come with the amp .

struth
18-12-2014, 15:19
I saw that Brian although the instructions are anything but clear as to which links are which re power amp and also light. might be more obvious when i open it.
im a bit sore now due to having to go round the shop myself so will leave it for later. thought id use it with the Tisbury.

brian2957
18-12-2014, 15:23
I saw that Brian although the instructions are anything but clear as to which links are which re power amp and also light. might be more obvious when i open it.
im a bit sore now due to having to go round the shop myself so will leave it for later. thought id use it with the Tisbury.
Yup sounds like a good idea . If you have any problems feel free to bring it over to mines and I'll do it for you mate . I'm sure it won't be a problem to a man of your obvious calibre though :)

struth
18-12-2014, 15:28
cheers. i'll let you know if i encounter any hesitation:lol:

brian2957
18-12-2014, 15:37
You'll need a pair of long - nosed pliers and possibly a pair of tweezers mate.

struth
18-12-2014, 17:27
I have some of both ..... I have actually connected it up and out of the box it is pretty good even at low volumes....in fact very good and about the size of 2 valves ;) Anyone want my Mighty Yaqin?

Not much difference in size eh?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/537/afYrBH.jpg

struth
18-12-2014, 22:44
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/673/dOIa04.jpg

A Big space now as the mighty Y and clone leave the field for a service. I had to use a series of wheelchairs and stairlift to get it down stairs again.Out to the shed tomorrow weather permitting. The pairing of clone and M Y is awsome by the way......

struth
06-01-2015, 22:18
Bought this recently and forgot about it. came this morning and I was bemused as to what it could be....wallah

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/537/a4PZR2.jpg

Gazjam
06-01-2015, 22:29
I have some of both ..... I have actually connected it up and out of the box it is pretty good even at low volumes....in fact very good and about the size of 2 valves ;) Anyone want my Mighty Yaqin?

Not much difference in size eh?

Hi Grant,
aye the wee Mini 1 is a wee cracker, I have Brians on loan for a wee bit and its driving my Eddingdales really well. Great focus in the mid and a smooth but detailed top end.
Its engaging and musical, which is what its all about!