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brian2957
10-09-2015, 16:09
Aye mate . Just this minute I'm making some stands to raise the 637s 22cm which will bring the tweeters ( not really sure what this driver is called . Dual concentric :scratch: ) up to ear height when I'm sitting down .
You're welcome over any time Grant , just give me a bell mate to make sure I'm not working .
Beautiful day for working outside innit :D
Yup a dc...lovely day..one of the best weve had.just a little breeze to cool you.
With the Dovedale cabs, Ive decided to try some multi finishes, as a trial(nothing ventured), so began with a first roeswood (water based dye) coat. this may end up terrible or nice, but I fancied a bit of licence.;)
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Second coated 2 sides after a quick rub down.
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walpurgis
15-09-2015, 14:08
Should look nice when you've finished Grant. I'm looking forward to seeing the completed items and reading your assessment. :thumbsup:
Hope so Geoff. There was a few parts at top of one side that didnt take the stain correctly so i had to remove a section and then redo it and then recoat the whole panel. Looks better now ..... Tribulations of starting with water dyes.its a nice base colour though that rosewood from Bolgers. Leave it for a while now to make sure its bone dry b4 the next stage
Thst fixed it. A couple of blemishes fixed and a good rub down with wool. Its looking good.
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Procured these to go with the 5" ers Ive got. 8 inch wizzers. Nice
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Thst fixed it. A couple of blemishes fixed and a good rub down with wool. Its looking good.
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Nice one, mate. Those look like fun! I thought you got on well with your neighbours? Looks like that's about to change... :hairmetal: :D
Marco.
Nice one, mate. Those look like fun! I thought you got on well with your neighbours? Looks like that's about to change... :hairmetal: :D
Marco.
Gonna put a bbc badge on and serial nos 01 and 02 . then sell em for 20k :eyebrows:
brian2957
16-09-2015, 10:27
Nice one, mate. Those look like fun! I thought you got on well with your neighbours? Looks like that's about to change... :hairmetal: :D
Marco.
Nah mate , they don't like it when he hangs out the washing in his birthday suit :lol:
Aye, there's a difference between annoying them and frightening the fuck out of them!! :lol:
Marco.
brian2957
16-09-2015, 10:43
:rfl::rfl:
I beg to differ. i had my spiderman pinny on.
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walpurgis
16-09-2015, 10:58
It was the suspenders and black latex stockings that did the damage. Simply not right with carpet slippers. :eyebrows:
brian2957
16-09-2015, 11:37
I beg to differ. i had my spiderman pinny on.
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Can we have a piccie if you wearing it please Grant :uhho:
Now time to do half at a time so a qick coat of thinned shellac as a sealing barrier then on to a floated coat of oil based antique mahogany to help with depth
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brian2957
16-09-2015, 12:25
Very nice mate . You really should go into business doing this type of work :)
It would be a good way to lose weight Brian[emoji2] lol
And the other half now
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Another coat of shellac...blonde this time
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Followed by a coat of teak oil stain
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walpurgis
16-09-2015, 15:19
Any more thoughts on the porting and supertweeter arrangements Grant?
I am going to use the 5 inch slot n tube first with the other hole blocked off. Will just vary how far in i put the tube to get some idea of length. At that diameter with this size of cab i doubt i can get it down more than 45hz.. That would maybe be 8 inch length.....maybe lol
If im not happy then a different port could be made i guess. Due to the cab set out the internal s tweeter is out probably for the good:eyebrows: My hearing doesnt need them anyways but might try my externals at some stage if the driver doesnt pass muster. Will need to make up a couple of blocking panels as ive removed the switch box on back. I have taked off the old speaker socket arrangement and have some white square box units that will fit in the round hole. Should have enough of my stash of white flat cable that is quite good speaker cable.
Also making up a twisted 4some 2m speaker cables to try out. They will likely be orrible but fancied trying
Think that will do for that one for now.. Will do the fitout next then start no 2
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My new wood rpi box finally arrived. Very nice it is to. Rca holes had to be carefully drilled
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brian2957
17-09-2015, 13:08
That looks nice mate . Are you gonny rub it doon and stain it :sofa::lol:
I see.;) Cheek I have to put up with....
Moved it into main rack now. Been meaning to do it for some time
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Now i have a spare box i have got out the other rpi with iq dac. Fitted another copy of moode 2.2 so will see how it fairs
Had to image another Copy as that one got corrupted...am i bad:) took me a while working out how to set it up again:doh: ...anyways its working now sounds great too. So i will box it up and keep for now as a back up until i decide if selling it is worthwhile..probably not
Cab now wired up and back hole where switches were blocked off
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Ready to work out the soundproofing/deadening next and then move on to next cab
brian2957
18-09-2015, 10:39
These look like they are going to be very nice Grant . If I hadn't just bought a pair of Tannoy 637s ( at a very good price :) ) I would have been interested :lol:
Well pleased with the Tannoys mate . Lifting them up 22cm so the tweetere are in line with me lugs when I'm seated , has made a big difference IMO.
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The little stands have now been rubbed down and painted obligatory black :D
Nice stands Brian. They fit in there just perfectly. Are they ok that close to a wall? Never tried it mysef
brian2957
18-09-2015, 11:59
Nice stands Brian. They fit in there just perfectly. Are they ok that close to a wall? Never tried it mysef
Sound pretty good to me mate . I can't really use them any other way .
Looking good, Brian!
Must pop by to have a listen next time I'm up in Glesga (mid October) :cool:
Marco.
Thats that one finished for now. Just the driver to fit and tube to tune
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brian2957
18-09-2015, 15:58
Looking good, Brian!
Must pop by to have a listen next time I'm up in Glesga (mid October) :cool:
Marco.
Thanks Marco welcome any time mate . The system's very different to the last time you were here . Just drop me a PM and I'll see if any of the troops are available .
brian2957
18-09-2015, 16:01
Thats that one finished for now. Just the driver to fit and tube to tune
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Nice tidy work as always Grant :)
Thanks Marco welcome any time mate . The system's very different to the last time you were here . Just drop me a PM and I'll see if any of the troops are available .
Count me in for that one Brian. :)
Marco, mid October...will have the 300B uber-amp in by that time if you fancy a 2nd jaunt across the M74...
Again, the Troops will be in attendance
brian2957
18-09-2015, 16:20
You're in the diary mate. So is Grant if he can make it . Hopefully Tony and Ali can also make it .
Boxed the first cab and started on no 2. Its s bit worse but nit a disaster.
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So first of all a big rub down and collection of sanding dust (its useful)
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walpurgis
18-09-2015, 23:02
You'll get there Grant. I know you have the patience. I'm looking forward to your observations on these.
You'll get there Grant. I know you have the patience. I'm looking forward to your observations on these.
I always have the fear that after all the work when i fit the drivers they sound CRAP! ..... not happened yet but it is always at the back of your mind Geoff.
The cab if weather and my health hold out will probably take a week. Then Its just fit the drivers and hold on to your breeks:rfl:
I always have the fear that after all the work when i fit the drivers they sound CRAP! ..... not happened yet but it is always at the back of your mind Geoff.
The cab if weather and my health hold out will probably take a week. Then Its just fit the drivers and hold on to your breeks:rfl:
Ach...
Theres always the next set of cabs to work on... :)
These ones however look a wee bit spech Grant!
I always have the fear that after all the work when i fit the drivers they sound CRAP! ..... not happened yet but it is always at the back of your mind Geoff.
The cab if weather and my health hold out will probably take a week. Then Its just fit the drivers and hold on to your breeks:rfl:
I'd be too impatient and fit the drivers first and test them. If they were good, I'd probably never get round to the cosmetic stuff :lol:
Love the work you do, Grant. When you replace drivers, do you 'tune' them by ear, or have you any measuring kit you use?
Normally its a bit of guesswork Pete looking at similar jobs in similar sized cabs..not very scientific lol.. This one i have done a little checking and math through a site and as the cabs have a limited depth i can probably only get to 8 inch length max and hoping 7 will do. So ears will be used. Ive marked the tubes in inches to guage the effect. As ive said im no pro, just like playing
A little rubbing down top n bottom. A big gouge and a few lesser ones becoming less
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And with a touch of magic in 40 secs
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walpurgis
19-09-2015, 18:57
A trick I use to bring gouges up and out is to put hot damp cotton wool along them for a while. The moisture swells the compressed wood fibres and raises the surface. Often the mark will then sand right out.
Water can be useful, yes. Its good to raise the wood hairs for a final sand or sometimes to stain. Decided to try disguise this time with my graining pens and then sand very lightly till it blends.
southall-1998
19-09-2015, 21:39
Have you ever met Geoff, Grant? His head is MASSIVE making his body look tiny.
Man Geoff, you should sell some knowledge in different prices :)
S.
walpurgis
19-09-2015, 21:49
Hi Shane. How're yer doin' mate?
Have you ever met Geoff, Grant? His head is MASSIVE making his body look tiny.
Man Geoff, you should sell some knowledge in different prices :)
S.
Well you cant have everything Shane :eyebrows: big head, big brain is what they say.... think there was more but I'm getting old .............:wheniwasaboy:
southall-1998
19-09-2015, 22:17
Hi Shane. How're yer doin' mate?
Hey grumpy...Yeah I'm fine!
S.
Finished rubbing it so its stain time[emoji12]
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So 2 coats of water dye hand dried and looking nice
Sure I can manage to change that
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Decided to give my aquatex cart a shot. Never tried it yet.
Its in the cherry shell and set to 2gm. Very punchy dound from this. Surprisingly good for the money.
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walpurgis
20-09-2015, 18:00
Thought of trying one, but then I bung an ADC on and realise that's as good as I need from an MM.
Thought of trying one, but then I bung an ADC on and realise that's as good as I need from an MM.
Its not bad at all Geoff. a bit rough around the edges but very listenable. probably best on rock n roll. Got the MC25 back on now. Have to say I am kinda more inclined to play my pi than the tt which is SAD
Hoping to get the new speaks up and running by the weekend. :eyebrows:
walpurgis
20-09-2015, 22:48
Got the MC25 back on now. Have to say I am kinda more inclined to play my pi than the tt which is SAD
If that's the case, you're definitely not getting the best out of the MC25FL. The sound from these 'glows' with musicality in the same way the SPU does. Digital shouldn't come close.
The Pi is sounding bloody good tbh Geoff. not saying the TT doesn't as well, and I have a lot of nice records that don't cross the divide, but I guess the convenience of the Pi plus its superb sound has to be a factor I suppose. For the money it is a no brainer.
My bloody heart has started fluttering again doh. I hate when it does this... its like a lot of butterflies have taken wing :lol: It will calm down eventually.
walpurgis
20-09-2015, 22:58
My bloody heart has started fluttering again doh. I hate when it does this... its like a lot of butterflies have taken wing :lol: It will calm down eventually.
I get that occasionally too. Have for the last forty years. It's normal for most people to get it now and then.
I get that occasionally too. Have for the last forty years. It's normal for most people to get it now and then.
Yeah, there is no obvious reason for it, although stress can be a factor sometimes. It misses the occasional beat too.
I remember being in the hospital for tests when it kicked in and the nurse nearly shit a brick thinking I was about to have an attack.... lol . I had to calm HER down:doh: chest gets itchy too for some odd reason :eek:
Finally finished my speaker cables. They sound rather good me thinks.
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brian2957
21-09-2015, 14:55
Very nice Grant :) . What cable did you use mate . Is it a single cable or a braided set ?
Twisted and double insulated then overbraided Brian. Sound remarkably good on the upstairs Fane speakers. Must try them downstairs as well... It was 12mm braid and it was a good fit
Also oil dyed the speaker and a coat of clear shellac
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brian2957
21-09-2015, 15:09
Yep , look very interesting mate.
Forgot the name of the cable now but the plugs were pretty reasonable as was the braid which is actually 10mm.
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Also oil dyed the speaker and a coat of clear shellac
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added another coat of clear shellac, a little less dilute this time. its looking quite good and think if I still think so next time I look I will just finish it with a top coat of wax. I have been toying with popping some satin varnish on instead, but I dunno.....not keen on using the stuff if I can avoid it, but I could cut it a bit making it better to use.. Started to make up the cable now
walpurgis
21-09-2015, 16:41
Looks like you'll have a beefy pair of speakers up and running in a day or two Grant!
Thought that too but had a slight accident with an air buff plate popping out of my hands and hitting the side a glancing blow while spinning doh. ..
Do in process of redoing tge side. Got the wiring in though
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brian2957
22-09-2015, 20:42
Woops ! Be careful mate :uhho:
Woops ! Be careful mate :uhho:
Yup, it was not working and while looking at it it sprung into life and I lost my grip... silly auld tit that I am. That 'ill teach me:doh:
quite close to popping the drivers in ..........scared I hate them and scared I like them more than the Telefunkens.:scratch:
brian2957
22-09-2015, 20:54
Mmmm ! Now that's not a bad predicament really . Is it ? ;)
Got another project waiting as well with all these Philips drivers sitting around and the rogers cabs. Ive 2 * 8"-ers and 6 *5"-ers. thats gonna be fun. I have some ply on order from my supplier;)
brian2957
22-09-2015, 21:24
Got another project waiting as well with all these Philips drivers sitting around and the rogers cabs. Ive 2 * 8"-ers and 6 *5"-ers. thats gonna be fun. I have some ply on order from my supplier;)
Are you starting from scratch with the cabs .
Are you starting from scratch with the cabs .
Dunno yet Brian. Probably need to make new baffles at least, and maybe some internal changes. They are decent cabs build wise(heavy too) so I m hoping for a nice finishing product. they are light drivers but Ive heard some of the 8's before(well a very similar set)....Ive even got a nice set of Philips grille badges that should be just right.
Thats that one about ready now too
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Looking okaydokay!
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Not too shabby. Now have to work out how to get it in house lol
walpurgis
23-09-2015, 18:28
Looks very good Grant. Have fun! :D
walpurgis
23-09-2015, 21:32
Have you done a try out yet Grant?
No Geoff. Still to work out how to get it indoors. its heavy and I cant carry it with 1 arm. If its dry tomorrow I will try and rig up a trolley with padding etc... As I have monos I will start with just one and try tuning it with reference to the Telefunken on the other channel and by its self I think. Then will have to unbox the other one and fit driver etc and then do what I did to no 1 and then get it in.
Lifes a pain in the touche when your physically buggered, but there are often ways round things if you apply whats left of the mind :eyebrows: Looking forward, with a touch of trepidation to it;)
Its been cold n drizzly
Today but managed between wet bits to trolley it in.
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Onceci recover I will try it out...maybe
walpurgis
24-09-2015, 10:36
Steady there matey. I'm looking forward to your opinion.
Looking nice Granty...
enjoy reading the updates. :)
Fantastic work on those cabs once again. Looks like you have practically got a production line going for full range driver designs. You should think of a company name and get some badges made ;)
Got the port worked out..... They are rather good as they warm up. Not as efficient as the Telefunkens but really nice. Keepers for now I think
Thanks Martin..lol
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Liking those, matey... How do they sound? Interesting port arrangement there - is that leftover from a jumbo roll of Andrex? :eyebrows:
Marco.
Yup Marco.. Elephant roll lol. They are mid driver tubes actually .5" got both now running and very pleased with them. Bass is just right for me.
As i say they are not quite as sensitive but have presence.
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Firebottle
24-09-2015, 13:16
Look positively weird with the port sticking out like that, but then looking at some designs makes you wonder about the 'accepted' look.
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Look positively weird with the port sticking out like that, but then looking at some designs makes you wonder about the 'accepted' look.
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Lol. It aint sticking out now Alan. Was just trying various depths..took 3" off it...
Was concerned that the class d amps were not giving these the full welly so connected up the wad 84 ..I was right... Wow. Big improvement ...looks like these speaks like some valve power or some decent ss welly... Got the pre as low as i can and is quite loud.. The Pi puts out the full 2v and wad is sensitive. Just a very full soundstage. Better than the tannoys i think.
Also stuck my speaker cables on and thats a nice mix too.
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Firebottle
24-09-2015, 14:11
If you wanted to lower the sensitivity of your Wad it would only need the addition of a couple of resistors.
I know you have replaced one of the coupling caps so should be easy for you with some guidance, glad to help.
If you wanted to lower the sensitivity of your Wad it would only need the addition of a couple of resistors.
I know you have replaced one of the coupling caps so should be easy for you with some guidance, glad to help.
Thats an idea Alan. Thanks. Whats the possibilty of putting a variable in lol... Will need to find the circuit diagram
So with proper driving these celestions are fantastic ...very impressed. The class d monos dont quite cut it with these. They have the supposed wattage but no oomph. The wad has only 16watts but all the oomph you need. Its a quandry although a nice one.
Taking the opportunity to do a few things to the Telefunkens while they are out of the system.
Still to try vinyl....
walpurgis
24-09-2015, 15:04
[QUOTE=struth;687494Got the pre as low as i can and is quite loud..[/QUOTE]
If you've still got your passive pre, put that in the chain as a temporary measure to give you more attenuation.
If you've still got your passive pre, put that in the chain as a temporary measure to give you more attenuation.
Only got the tvc Geoff now. It was clicked at notch 1 and was loud enough. Ive taken them out for now. I know what they can do and what brings them alive. They are ok on the monos but a bit veiled..you know you can tell that it will explode into life given a better supply. And ive proved that. Stunning speakers played right. Reckon they are possibly the best ive heard that way ..quick too.
The tele's are back in as is the monos and with the adjustments and the new cable are sounding even better...
Win Win.lol.
Some Hi Res pics of the new girls on the block :)
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Wharfedale boxes and Celestion full range drivers.
walpurgis
24-09-2015, 21:58
Very nice Grant. What will you start on next?
Very nice Grant. What will you start on next?
looking fair for over 40year old cabs. well made in the day. I have the rogers cabs and all those philips drivers...6 of the fives and 2 of the eights... they are quite solid too (nice to have the original boxes in good nick as well, makes them very sell-able lol) Cost me a bit but they are REAL beasts:eyebrows:
Looking good Grant. How are you finding the treble response?
Looking good Grant. How are you finding the treble response?
Seems very decent being driven by the wad. The wizzer cones do a good job. My hearing doesnt go super high these days but you can usualy feel it ifits not there even if you dont hear it.
They are a tad big a!d powerful for my needs tbh so they wont get much use i fear. May sell them and recoup my outlay later on. Not that many folk these days rate fullrange speakers which is a shame as well done they have a lot going for them. Wouldnt be a problem if more was needed as a supertweeter could always be added..
Ive got my first loves back in now...the Telefunkens listening to of all things the OST of Paint your Wagon....marvelous stuff
Got the itch quicker than expected and dug out one of the Rogers cabs.
Decent strength in these although not the easiest to work on I think.
Cut out the old tweeter to accommodate a five inch wizzer driver. The eight inch driver fits in the main hole.
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Tidied the shed a bit toi
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walpurgis
25-09-2015, 18:52
Hope you're going to enclose the back of the smaller unit and roll it in with a biggish cap.
Hope you're going to enclose the back of the smaller unit and roll it in with a biggish cap.
Funny you should say that Geoff:D Just my thoughts too, although I also have another plan in mind too depending if I can be bothered. the rogers has 3 terminals and I fancied utilising them. as its likely to be my last effort.
If you wanted to lower the sensitivity of your Wad it would only need the addition of a couple of resistors.
I know you have replaced one of the coupling caps so should be easy for you with some guidance, glad to help.
This is the out section of the integrated version of the amp Alan. Cant find the power version but other than the selector and vc I think they are identical
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.maile/WD/kel84input.gif
spec
Power Output............................................ 15w/c
Operation......................................... .........Ultralinear
Tubes............................................. ..........4 x EL84
.................................................. .....2 x ECF80
Input Sensitivity....................................... ..380mV
Input Impedence ........................................100KOhm
Frequency Response.................................17Hz to 30kHz (-1dB)
Distortion........................................ ..........0.02% at 1kHz, 1W output
Firebottle
28-09-2015, 06:15
OK Grant, I'd forgotten that the WAD used the feedback resistor R32/33 to generate the bias for the input pentode.
It's still very easy though, increase the value of the 22R resistor R8/9 to 47R or even 68R.
The input sensitivity will then be 855mV for 47R, or 1.14V for 68R.
:cool:
Thanks again Alan for your time and trouble. I will have a look see what i can do when a bit better ..... Sounds pretty simple and if i dont have those values i will get some in.
tubehunter
29-09-2015, 09:15
Hi Grant
You may like to try this front end for your Kel84, I've had some good results with it.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/kel84%20E88CC%20front%20end_zpsvpjdrvtv.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/kel84%20E88CC%20front%20end_zpsvpjdrvtv.jpg.html)
Hi Grant
You may like to try this front end for your Kel84, I've had some good results with it.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/kel84%20E88CC%20front%20end_zpsvpjdrvtv.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/kel84%20E88CC%20front%20end_zpsvpjdrvtv.jpg.html)
That looks like a major redesign Duncan including the valve. Might just be too complex for this old yin. What benefits did it bring?
tubehunter
29-09-2015, 09:48
The E88CC is an excellent valve with low distortion and good linearity which is required for the phase splitter.
Input sensitivity is lowered to around 1.5mv for full output.
Interesting ..thanks Duncan. Maybe an idea for future but would need expert unlike me to do it i fear.
Firebottle
29-09-2015, 11:29
That's a good choice of valve for that purpose Duncan :thumbsup:
Got some resistors on order Alan. I will try this changing values first and see how it goes i think.
Got some resistors on order Alan. I will try this changing values first and see how it goes i think.
I did some swapping out of values re resistors to alter input sensitivity to the wad amp re Alan (firebottle)'s recommendations .... initially I had the telefunkens in place and tried the 47 ohms which was not super sucessful so went up to 68 ohm and that was much better. switched one speaker as thats all I could manage to the new celestion monsters. 68 is too much for them:doh: ...so I reckon that 68 is pretty good for the tele's that are super sensitive(over 100) and maybe, although not tried with, 47 with the big celestions. These speakers are really good but need driven, to levels that are probably too loud for my current situation to get them singing which they really do. so I think I will leave for now the 68's in place. might be interesting to set up a switch with differing values that you could dial in as necessary, as it really does make a difference with these sensitive speakers..... there again I would likely find it easier to just sell it
Ive got one of these winging its way to me courtesy of Nigel(vinylspinner)
http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/images/large_images/13119_1.jpg
http://www.hifishock.org/galleries/electronics/sony/integrated-amplifier/ta-fb940r-1-sony.jpg
Remote controlled too so although many will see it as a step back, it will fullfill my current needs(pun intended) Plenty power on tap here and quite attractive in its way.
brian2957
07-10-2015, 08:56
Oooh ! I'll be over for a listen to that . Mind me coffee this time . :D
walpurgis
07-10-2015, 09:24
That looks interesting Grant. Hope it slots into your system well. :)
Oooh ! I'll be over for a listen to that . Mind me coffee this time . :D
Yes i forgot the coffee mate...didnt even get one myself:doh: think im going loopy
That looks interesting Grant. Hope it slots into your system well. :)
So do I ....Should be a solid performer i think.
Oooh ! I'll be over for a listen to that . Mind me coffee this time . :D
Brian complains at mine when a I don't have biscuits in for him Grant...
some folk get grouchy with old age... :)
Crackin in looking big amp that, some serious gubbins inside too.
just the dab for bothering the neighbours!
Great it's got remote too.
Nice and solid. As much as all the esoteric kit is lovely I do like the no mess Sony approach. I'm sure you'll love it.
Nice and solid. As much as all the esoteric kit is lovely I do like the no mess Sony approach. I'm sure you'll love it.
Thanks Andrew. Yes they are perhaps not flash, but well built and very functional. Dunno when It will come but it will be good to try it with my newborns ;) (iE: the Celestions) . think I will have to sell them though as they need driven to levels I am not comfortable these days. 12" drivers need a bit of power to sing. When I had them running with the wad, it was loud but a fantastic soundstage and great clarity. They'll be a great buy for someone younger who likes loud
Took this a few days ago with the phone.. still looking good:)
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walpurgis
09-10-2015, 22:49
That is certainly a nice looking TT Grant. :)
Thanks Andrew. Yes they are perhaps not flash, but well built and very functional. Dunno when It will come but it will be good to try it with my newborns ;) (iE: the Celestions) . think I will have to sell them though as they need driven to levels I am not comfortable these days. 12" drivers need a bit of power to sing. When I had them running with the wad, it was loud but a fantastic soundstage and great clarity. They'll be a great buy for someone younger who likes loud
I'm finding much the same Grant, really have to push these big buggers, especially without a box. It's great when the neighbours are out!
Lovely deck that man. Although I can't be bothered with vinyl and all the attendant faff I do like to see nice turntables.
brian2957
10-10-2015, 07:55
Took this a few days ago with the phone.. still looking good:)
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Absolutely beautiful , it looks even better in the flesh . Sounds very good too :)
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brian2957
14-10-2015, 13:05
Ooooh ! I know what that is :D
Knackered now but the 27 kilometres of bubble are off and in box...surprise surprise there is no room for the amp in the box after you do that lol.
Looks great
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Sounding very good
brian2957
14-10-2015, 13:44
These are very good amps Grant :)
Sure is Brian... Silly amounts of power with these Telefunkens. Just goes in the rack. Oh and a nice remote to keep me on me ass
Gonna have to get all this reorginised. Stuff is all wrong now. But buggered if its gonna get done anytime soon lol
Gonna just enjoy the tunes .
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walpurgis
14-10-2015, 19:59
Looks a nice amp Grant. Mind you don't 'cook' the Teles.
Looks a nice amp Grant. Mind you don't 'cook' the Teles.
Lol, yes I will have to be careful of accidents. I dont have to go up very far at moment. Hoping to try the big Celestions sometime soon. think this amp will drive them to hell and back:eyebrows:
Got a small tv shelf bracket thingy coming. just ordered off the bay for £20 .
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should let me go down to 1 rack.
Bit the pain bullet and got the cellestions down. Ah! A better sound than the teles with this amp. Nice soundstage and a slightly better adjustment on vc into the bargain.
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Paint your wagon vinyl is no longer a tad weedy basd wise
brian2957
15-10-2015, 10:33
Nice one Grant , glad the amp is doin it for you :)
Spectral Morn
15-10-2015, 10:45
Bit the pain bullet and got the cellestions down. Ah! A better sound than the teles with this amp. Nice soundstage and a slightly better adjustment on vc into the bargain.
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Paint your wagon vinyl is no longer a tad weedy basd wise
Looking good Grant.
Regards Neil
Thats the kind of amp to run these big drivers.. Glad I got it right. Not ideal with the Teles though and the proArts are spot on with them as is the wad with the fettled resistors. Teles are so efficient in action (over100db) that they need delicate but firm handling....lol.. Just thought of an analogy but best not to go there:eyebrows:
A couple of Cellestion badges and Im there i think:)
Re badges Grant, if you can't track em down send me an image and I'll CAD it up.
Hopefully YNWAN (Mark) can knock up some badges for you from that. :)
Having difficulty finding any period images at all Gary.
Remind me which badge you were after Grant? Was it the oval?
Remind me which badge you were after Grant? Was it the oval?
Probably Andrew but anything period in style would be acceptable I think.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.satinsoundsystems.com/web-data/Images/Celestion.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.satinsoundsystems.com/web-content/liveframe.html&h=788&w=1417&tbnid=Y-tVo_hqYOevxM:&docid=oBcNrD2USB_ZMM&ei=casfVvXZFsyqeKGttvgG&tbm=isch&ved=0CB8QMygEMARqFQoTCLXWiu7LxMgCFUwVHgodoZYNbw
Huge link but is that the one?
Its a possible, but its copyright I think... that Idea though would do. cheers
Some higher res snaps of how its likely to remain I think, for the time being
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brian2957
15-10-2015, 21:46
Looking good mate , them there speakers are pretty big . I'll have to get over and get a listen to this lot mate :)
Looking good mate , them there speakers are pretty big . I'll have to get over and get a listen to this lot mate :)
Think you will like and perhaps be a little surprised with them Brian. ..I was:eek:
walpurgis
15-10-2015, 21:56
Looks good Grant. What project's next ?
Looks good Grant. What project's next ?
Project sit-on-my-ass :eyebrows: I think i'm finished :D
those alnico's I mentioned on ebay thread are really worth buying but I dont need them
brian2957
15-10-2015, 22:34
Project sit-on-my-ass :eyebrows: I think i'm finished :D
those alnico's I mentioned on ebay thread are really worth buying but I dont need them
Aye right , you can't sit still for a minute laddie :lol:
Aye right , you can't sit still for a minute laddie :lol:
I'm taking heed of your advice mate. "Sit, Listen, Enjoy" ... and maybe the odd new dress :eyebrows:
brian2957
15-10-2015, 22:45
Yup , I like to sit down a lot meself mate , and sometimes the odd siesta . Relax and enjoy the music :D Unfortunately work sometimes interferes with my plans :rolleyes:
I'll have a look in the Next catalogue tomorrow :lol:
One of my next purchases will be a nice comfy seat; hopefully a rocker coz :wheniwasaboy: I wanted one ;)
Ach, you pair of old farts... :)
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:lol:
More listening done today and it was all positive I think. The combo perhaps doesnt do jazz as nicely as the Tele's with the Pro amps or the Wad, but what it does, it really does lol.
More sure than I was now that the WAD and the Promitheus could go along with most of my speakers . It is quite amazing how good full range speakers can be.
I was listening to Queen today and its possibly the best Ive heard them, for long and weary
As this blog comes to a conclusion I took a few pics after moving stuff around yesterday. Was pretty sore after lol but it looks better and sounds better too. Or is that foo[emoji12]
From
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To
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That looks much tidier Grant :scratch:
A lot less cables criss crossing between. 2. Racks...mains cables tidier too.
brian2957
20-10-2015, 11:52
Looking tidier Grant , sound should be '' tidier '' too . Sit back and enjoy the music :D
Looking tidier Grant , sound should be '' tidier '' too . Sit back and enjoy the music :D
Thats the plan mate. Been an interesting journey and judging by the viewing figures its been popular....maybe for the wrong reasons right enough:eyebrows: but 85 thousand views is quite good. For the rubbish ive got but i might have given someone an idea or 2:)
brian2957
20-10-2015, 12:27
Well I've enjoyed it mate and I'm pretty sure you're not quite finished yet . Only time will tell :D
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Better picture
Still got the little monoblocks Grant?
walpurgis
21-10-2015, 16:58
It's looking good Grant! :)
Still got the little monoblocks Grant?
Yes ive still got them Roy...in fact ive got 2 sets so 4 all told.. Good amps for the money..100 plus post for 2...price of a meal and wine for 2 with some folk here lol
It's looking good Grant! :)
Thanks Geoff..its looking good..been polishing away madly today as i aint allowed out.
walpurgis
21-10-2015, 18:06
Thanks Geoff..its looking good..been polishing away madly today as i aint allowed out.
Why. You haven't been scaring small children again have you? :D
Lol. .. alas they are more likely to scare me these days.
Just to sit and do nowt for a while. Aint gonna happen but im trying
Over last 2 weeks ive been building up a nice finish on speakers with a special mix of beeswax and oil. They are coming up now and starting to get that desired patina
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walpurgis
25-10-2015, 12:05
That certainly comes up well Grant.
The boy has ordered me a new phono amp for xmas. It looks interesting but i dont get my sticky hands on it till then.... Excitement is building
walpurgis
28-10-2015, 12:41
What is it?
Emotiva i think.got a pic somewhere.. Meant to run off a battery pack very well. I need to look into what would be the best option for this. Anyone using 12v battery packs?
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Was taking some hi res pics today, and thought I would pop a couple of the tt... its looking great and it is causing me some consternation.
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Turn that bloody tracking force weight round to hide the hole - it's (the hole) supposed to be facing downwards :lol:
Turn that bloody tracking force weight round to hide the hole - it's (the hole) supposed to be facing downwards :lol:
Its a fashion statement David.:lol: If thats all thats wrong with it then I must have succeeded :cool:
walpurgis
30-10-2015, 19:41
Never owned one, but I've seen them with the screw in all sorts of positions.
Over last 2 weeks ive been building up a nice finish on speakers with a special mix of beeswax and oil. They are coming up now and starting to get that desired patina
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Missed a bit :)
Missed a bit :)
Where;)
Actually looking at the tt pic on last page. The rider weight has a bevel and flat bit on right side which is bizzare as it doesnt... I can only imagine its a reflection...bloody good one though....no wonder folk think the moon landing was faked
Been trying out my new record clamp..damn thing is not perfectly centred up top.. Nagaoka are slipping.
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Never owned one, but I've seen them with the screw in all sorts of positions.
Giggedy.
Giggedy.
Steady Andrew...dont go off half cocked:D
Ive been playing about with repositioning my mag lav feet on the tt as i wasnt getting even pressure and felt it was affecting the sound a little. After some experiments i think ive come up with a better configuration. Alas it does make it slightly less stable potentially but hope it will be ok...really could have done with a 5th lol will try and post a pic
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Ignore the silver ones. They ain't being used
I have also been trying the blended cork and rubber double mat with the Nagaoka clamp and believe this is a better combo so the Bren1 and achromat may be up for grabs soon
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New badge
Cork mat looks better anyway ;)
Speakers looking good...vintage.
Cork mat looks better anyway ;)
Speakers looking good...vintage.
Wonder where I got that?:lol:
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walpurgis
06-11-2015, 12:46
Nice. Keep it. :)
brian2957
06-11-2015, 12:48
Very nice Grant :)
Finishes it off i think. Its been sounding better since i rearranged the feet a bit. The 2 wooden ones are not actually touching but are there for safety
Thanks both
The emotiva xsp1 phono arrives early... Just plumbed it in to test as its a xmas pressie. Works...boy this is promising:eyebrows:
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Tryingvto work out the 12v dc plug size.. snyone know best way to measure them?
Firebottle
06-11-2015, 14:30
They are normally specified by the inner pin diameter plus the outer sleeve diameter of the plug.
Usual sizes are 2.1 and 2.5 mm for the pin for 'standard' sizes. Try comparing to a known size drill bit perhaps.
:)
They are normally specified by the inner pin diameter plus the outer sleeve diameter of the plug.
Usual sizes are 2.1 and 2.5 mm for the pin for 'standard' sizes. Try comparing to a known size drill bit perhaps.
:)
Those would be inner pin diameters, outer dia is often in the 4 - 5.5mm range. Maplin sell a wide variety of plugs if you need to change a cable to fit. I'd measure using a digital caliper, but as Alan says suitable drill bits could be used.
Best i can come up with is 3.5mm outer and about 1.5mm inner. Probably best to order psu with 5.5 to 2.1mm and get some adaptors it is centre positive fortunately. My calipers are old mechanical and came up with3.2mm outer. But they dont seem to di that size so guess its 3.5... Inner for that size seems to be 1.5 .....dont know why these are not standardised.lol
Thanks all
I see there is a smaller 3mm one too.. This is bloody stupid. Why all the different sizes?
Firebottle
06-11-2015, 17:13
It's called miniaturisation Grant, it is a bit of a pain in the butt, plus the smaller ones aren't that strong, particularly the board mounted sockets :doh:
It's called miniaturisation Grant, it is a bit of a pain in the butt, plus the smaller ones aren't that strong, particularly the board mounted sockets :doh:
Yes but surely 3 different sizes would be more than enough. Big. medium. small. [emoji12]
They are normally specified by the inner pin diameter plus the outer sleeve diameter of the plug.
Usual sizes are 2.1 and 2.5 mm for the pin for 'standard' sizes. Try comparing to a known size drill bit perhaps.
:)
I got some ends in and found a couple that fit nicely so should be fine when it arrives. Thanks for help.
The emotiva xsp1 phono arrives early... Just plumbed it in to test as its a xmas pressie. Works...boy this is promising:eyebrows:
How does it compare to the Schiit?
How does it compare to the Schiit?
Only had it running for 1 record b4 I had to put it away(xmas pressie), but I think its better, and thats good going as I rate the Mani at its pricepoint highly.
After returning wad to stock input of 380mv a couple of days ago i decided to try it upstairs on the Fane fullrange speakers I made a while back.
Have to say that it sounded extremely good..a match made in heaven lol.was not expecting that. I like the fanes but they jumped a level with this kit....pics to follow
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walpurgis
12-11-2015, 20:13
Nice one Grant. I thought it was a shame to get rid of it. :)
Yes it is, but I'm just not using it. sure its new home will provide it with plenty scope to shine.
Well with the phono stage sold and its replacement not due to be used till xmas i have fished out that little bear head amp again and wired it to the mm stage of the sony. Working quite well. Slight bit of induced hum especially on the right but not too bad. Siting is important. This should see me by ok....its quite good actually. Soundstage is a bit narrower and output a tad lower and seems to show up a little more noise on the vinyl if thats possible
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Since I no longer have sny valve devices ive decided ti empty my valve box and sell them
More here than I thought lol
Look out for a sales thread near you...[emoji12] no idea what half of them are far less worth so got the eyepiece out
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Just ss I was about to write it off the double linear psu appears. After allowing it to acclimatise to the temp I have tried via an adaptor the 5v line to a phone. It charges so appears to be a worker. Going to see how it does with the rpi
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Satisfied even after a few tracks i know that this psu is a big upgrade on the smp that you normally use on the pi. Lower noise floor and smoother in a good way...Acker is soo dreamy on that clarinet at moment. Much more clarity in the background orchestrations too...
For the record just using bog standard leads for 5v and 240v rails and currently not reduced to 230v through the regenerator. Will need to try and rearra!ge things to accomodate this. But thats for another day. Tbh the whole McCoy needs re doing now...
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Got one of these on order from Stan taking him up on his generous black friday deal.[emoji12] [emoji2]
.Shame more didnt go for his one day pricing lol
Going to use this with my alternate system of the proarts and telefunkens
I am impressed with the new psu. if it improves the phono as much as it has the Pi then I will be happy. I have finally traced the occasional distortion I get with the Rola speakers(at certain freq only). It is the whizzer cone vibrating and distorting the sound mostly on one side(right one). I will have to come up with a plan to perhaps damp the whizzer as just touching it makes a difference... perhaps a coating or mastic or pva..??? dunno
Try a light strip of blu-tak. Easy to do and totally reversible.
jandl100
29-11-2015, 14:51
Whizzer cones are never good news - even when they are working right they are wrong - I hates 'em with a passion! :steam:
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Ali Tait
29-11-2015, 15:10
Blu Tak may work, you could also try some cotton wool around the outside of the whizzer- bit of PVA will keep it in place.
walpurgis
29-11-2015, 15:24
Blu Tak may work, you could also try some cotton wool around the outside of the whizzer- bit of PVA will keep it in place.
That's a sensible suggestion. A ring of fine acoustic foam popped over the tweeter cone and lightly sandwiched against the bass cone may help too. That's a dodge some manufacturers use.
PVA glue sets hard and will not damp, it'll just add mass.
Aleene's Original Tacky Glue is the stuff for speaker damping. It dries clear but tacky and retains a texture similar to the Plastiflex coating that used to be applied to KEF and B&W, etc., Bextrene speaker cones. Best used thinned with about 30% water and a couple of coats brushed on.
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Thanks all. Once weather abates i will see what ive got and try some non destructives first. Its only at a certain freq usually alas Dean Martin seems to hit it a lot lol
I'm drooling over that plinth|
I'm drooling over that plinth|
Thanks..it is nice...may be up for sale soon depending on how i get on with my next adventure
Grant I'd love to see a snap of the new slimmed down setup if you get a chance man. I imagine it fits more with my monastic tastes now lol.
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The table on left is only there for tv till i get a wall bracket put up.
brian2957
30-11-2015, 15:27
I'm drooling over that plinth|
The plinth ( and turntable ) is even nicer in the flesh John .:D
brian2957
30-11-2015, 15:28
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The table on left is only there for tv till i get a wall bracket put up.
Looking good Grant , I'll have to get over soon for a listen mate :)
Looking good Grant, even to a philistine such as I that deck is gorgeous.
All creamed up.
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1st of 2 coats to the whizzer with non hardening super thick glue..
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Dried nicely and still flexible
A littke more done to speaker cables toi
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brian2957
02-12-2015, 16:06
Has the glue solved the speaker problem mate ?
Naw.. Improved it a bit... Ive rotated the driver by a out 60 degrees and thats has made a difference too.. Might be a damaged coil. I cant see any damage to the suspension thats obvious.. Its not that bad and more noticable at low volumes i think..only a sort of barratone freq sets it to noticible .... Just annoying
It looks like it's ready for lift-off - impressive!
It looks like it's ready for lift-off - impressive!
it does look a tad like a rocket:lol:
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Also decided to get my xmas pressie out and connected to the linear psu....for a check like lol... it is staying out.. might as well use it now... sounding mighty fine... it's an Emotiva xps1 .a very nicely made and sounding bit of kit.
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You can just about see it lol
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Other change was arrival of one of Stans lovely switch boxes. Just got round to trying it.. excellent value and sounds like nothing[emoji3]
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walpurgis
02-12-2015, 21:20
A few new goodies then Grant. Hope it all does the job! :)
I've ground to a halt myself. Trying to source stuff. :rolleyes:
A few new goodies then Grant. Hope it all does the job! :)
I've ground to a halt myself. Trying to source stuff. :rolleyes:
This is to replace my tvc. I didnt really need the control for what its to be used for, just the extra sockets, so thought if I'm to get a switchbox then do it in some degree of style. this is a very nice one:) This will be my alternate system, with either these lovely Fane's or my stunning Telefunkens:eyebrows:
I noticed the Lenco had kinda stopped. Hope you get the bits soon.
Some feet added. Had 8 so 2 on phono(cant quite see it), 3 each on the buffer and psu
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Ali Tait
04-12-2015, 13:22
Grant, did you try some cotton wool?
Grant, did you try some cotton wool?
Not yet. Might try some in back bottom near cage or in between the whizzer and main cone.. Not had much chance to listen since turning the driver. I will get some light stuff next time i'm in shop.
Ali Tait
04-12-2015, 14:03
Aye, between the whizzer and cone should change things.
Aye, between the whizzer and cone should change things.
Cheers Ali, I will try that first..
Finally that postman cometh :eyebrows:
Lid came the other day and the rest today. Got it partial built for now and looks great. Will need to get some tools to do rest but as its all out in shed it will have to wait till im up to it.
You still here? ....
Ah the photo :eek:
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Spectral Morn
09-12-2015, 15:13
Finally that postman cometh :eyebrows:
Lid came the other day and the rest today. Got it partial built for now and looks great. Will need to get some tools to do rest but as its all out in shed it will have to wait till im up to it.
You still here? ....
Ah the photo :eek:
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Glad it all arrived safe and sound.
walpurgis
09-12-2015, 15:55
Very nice Grant. Is the SME going on it?
(I thought you were done with vinyl and were concentrating on 'ergonomically oriented' Hi-Fi?)
Very nice Grant. Is the SME going on it?
(I thought you were done with vinyl and were concentrating on 'ergonomically oriented' Hi-Fi?)
What the "F" is ergonomically oriented' Hi-Fi ;)
No cant give up on vinyl...got too many records lol... Just hoping this will be safer... Would hate to damage my legendary (lol) Thorens:eyebrows:
Found a screwer so just plugged up the psu.. Gonna try the motor
walpurgis
09-12-2015, 16:05
What the "F" is ergonomically oriented' Hi-Fi ;)
As in everything having a remote! :D
As in everything having a remote! :D
Ah... Well in a way yes then but still need a tt mate. These 12 inch discs wont go into the cd player.
Well spun it and picks up to speed in under 2 secs and freewheels down in 13 secs. Both speeds seem to be fine although not tested them for accuracy as of yet.
All looking good. Will leave off doing the arm for now. Might need a hand actually.. We shall see.
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a brighter version : quickly cleaned up with zoner 18
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walpurgis
09-12-2015, 19:55
Looks great. Is that a DL-160 I spy there?
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