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Yeah, thats the one Roy. Been measuring and think i can use some of it for records too, so a saving on buying a kallax. This one cost me nowt so you were not far off with value lol
Think they were fairly expensive
I've got something that size, colour & shape, but with drawers in the living room. Damn handy for keeping the grand daughters bits in. :)
Think they could be used with drawers too. It will fit ok according to my measuring up. Got an idea to get the tt higher too although that my be pie in the sky :doh:
Wall shelf?
A lack table with legs reduced in size and fitted on top f unit. Might be ok.
A lack table with legs reduced in size and fitted on top f unit. Might be ok.
Ive had a few other ideas on this. Think they may turn out better, so am going to wait on my grey cells making a final decision. Got a couple of small things on order and have a few things here so might be able to produce a hybrid unit. May of course end up pretty hideous :D
anyway it will have to await myself feeling up to it:rolleyes:
walpurgis
13-03-2017, 23:34
I wonder what you will end up with Grant? :)
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Fitted
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A tier. Just needs feet added which are on order. I bet its a lot cheaper than an atacama
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I sold three Lack tables a little while ago on ebay, got the princely sum of £1.50! (mind you they're not much more than that new)
I sold three Lack tables a little while ago on ebay, got the princely sum of £1.50! (mind you they're not much more than that new)
Doh. They are remarkably strong and stable especially with the shortened legs. Got rubber inserts for feet coming. Just enough gap between legs for a full size thingie :lol:
Been adapting the big unit too. Had back panels off cut and replaced eventually as I fell into the damn thing and damaged the central verticals doh. After I recovered I fixed that best I could. Had more outer inserts and only 1 middle one so cut one down. Just awaiting a couple of things and ready to go.
Not sure I'm up to it though so might leave it til Ive got help. Pleased enough bar damage to it and me
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Short legged Lack table now has feet..
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It is remarkably strong this now and non slip. Excellent adaptation and great value.
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brian2957
17-03-2017, 15:44
What ya gonny do with it Grant , sit on it upside down with the cushion under yer bahookie :D
You been at the whisky matey :cool:
It,ll sit on the unit and be a layer. TT on top and ,say a cdp underneath;) . Might do more later.
brian2957
17-03-2017, 15:50
Clever idea mate . I have an Ikea TV bench and that would sit perfectly on top . Two questions . Did you cut the legs ans aren't they hollow ?
Clever idea mate . I have an Ikea TV bench and that would sit perfectly on top . Two questions . Did you cut the legs ans aren't they hollow ?
Yes i cut them with circular saw then a quick sand. They are hollow but the feet slip in really tight. Its so strong i reckon i could stand on it. Put the screws into legs with a drill to get them right in straight n tight. ie fitted the double ended screw into chuck...
brian2957
17-03-2017, 15:59
When everything's tightened properly could stand on one of these tables no problem mate so they should be a nice base for some of your gear :)
walpurgis
17-03-2017, 21:07
I reckon a pair of those Lack tables would be good under my Tannoys. I'd need to recolour them though. :)
I reckon a pair of those Lack tables would be good under my Tannoys. I'd need to recolour them though. :)
You get them in dark wood too.
Oh dear Ive bit off more than I can chew
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Looks better than your old racks by a margin.
What's the big silver bit of kit on the right?
Looks better than your old racks by a margin.
What's the big silver bit of kit on the right?
Not much further forward but actually am. Its a Belkin pur AV Filter and distro box. Ive cut out the back there so i can slot in all the plugs. Button for powering everything on is higher now with it being there. The black one is the regenerator.
Fitting the tv shelf at moment and removed the glass shelf thats been there since i wallpapered many years ago. Still in decent nick actually. Helps with no smokers now.
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New av shelves
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Bigman80
18-03-2017, 16:53
Looking good !!
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brian2957
18-03-2017, 17:26
Aye very nice Grant , but you really should ask the troops for a hand before you start this kinda thing :)
Aye very nice Grant , but you really should ask the troops for a hand before you start this kinda thing :)
Thanks. I didnt like to. Your all busy chaps . Just hoping the tv stays up
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Still lots to do but thats enough for tonight. Everything is hopefully in safe place
Bigman80
18-03-2017, 18:39
Good work. Looking good.
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brian2957
18-03-2017, 19:29
That looks great Grant , well worth the effort :)
Brought the big pioneer down.. cables are all wrong size but got it going. Only quiet but sounds promising
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Looks sound that does and the matching TT table is genius. Ikea should start selling your design, man.
got to do something re wires yet, and oing to put albums in left; cds in middle etc.
Grant...happy to be wrong.
That looks a whole heap of better than the old rack setup. :)
Very nice. :thumbsup:
Where's the mains regen unit btw?
Grant...happy to be wrong.
That looks a whole heap of better than the old rack setup. :)
Very nice. :thumbsup:
Where's the mains regen unit btw?
cheers... its top left inside Gary
Bit of a tidy and put some media inside. Took a lot of records.
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Finished for now pic
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Bigman80
19-03-2017, 13:53
Looks proper mate.
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brian2957
19-03-2017, 19:14
Me too . Nice job Grant :)
Cheers guys I'm pleased with the result
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walpurgis
19-03-2017, 23:58
Your current arrangements look great Grant. Puts my 'warehouse' style Hi-Fi to shame! :D
Your current arrangements look great Grant. Puts my 'warehouse' style Hi-Fi to shame! :D
Thanks mate. Its a change at least and allows me to use the big Pioneer
rmcin626
21-03-2017, 22:22
Looks good Grant, and I assume sounds not bad as well
Looks good Grant, and I assume sounds not bad as well
Cheers Robin. Sounds decent yes, although one mans decent will be anothers crap, or great I guess. Just getting to grip with the amp really as Ive not used it much and never in this setup. Its probably too powerful for these speakers but not as bad as the Sony was. Quite a nice amp as you'd expect from pioneer's near top of the tree.
Spun some Frankie this morning and have to say he was in good voice. I was a tad concerned that i was feeling a little vibration on the slate plinth which is new, since changing racks to table. I tried some sorbothane under the tt feet but its still there, so not coming from table. But, it seems to be sounding better for it, or in spite of it. Seems to go against general ideas but hey ho, i,m all for results.:)
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Quick video test for the pioneer with the big telly,s. Sounds decent i think.
Opened up the pro art. Been meaning to do this for an age
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Quite decent and big transformer
Definately got a fault lthough no idea what. It seems to be mostly under 100 hz..hit the 100hz cut button and it all but goes away... a sort of spitting noise. I cant find any info on it and there are a few small chips in it so assuming its probably one of those.
God knows what it would have cost to make but it must have been more than i paid new.tiawan or no tiawan. I guess its spares now.
Spectral Morn
25-03-2017, 14:20
Systems looking very nice Grant.
Bigman80
25-03-2017, 14:34
I agree, very tidy. And nice sounds too !
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Cheers... its smarter and livingroom is tidier. Sounds decent with the old pioneer strutting its stuff too. Saw one on feepay going for quite a lot recently.
Bigman80
25-03-2017, 16:50
Cheers... its smarter and livingroom is tidier. Sounds decent with the old pioneer strutting its stuff too. Saw one on feepay going for quite a lot recently.
The vintage Japanese stuff is high quality mate. Very nice looking too
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Big Pioneer looks 'propa' :thumbsup:
Thanks. Yes its a nice amp sonically too.
Been mucking about with pics and came up with this.. wonder if AT want to buy the rights lol
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Vinyl turner
25-03-2017, 18:11
In one of the earlier photos did I spot a Bren record weight (in gold finish) ?
I've been considering something like that for a while but never sure if they were adding any value or not. Has anyone experience either good or bad with them ?
I did have one, yes. It was nicely made andworked well on the td160. I'm using a Nagaoka one now which doubles as a stylus cleaner. They are not as heavy but are nice. some records and tables they sound worse on so its a matter of trying really
Looking good Grant. I'm glad to see the Pioneer having a turn in your main system.
Looking good Grant. I'm glad to see the Pioneer having a turn in your main system.
Its getting an extended run Paul. Quite like it with the big speakers
Fished out the big Denon cdp and fitted it into main system. Thought the silver was more inkeeping, and it does sacd as well as pretty much anything else.
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Bigman80
27-03-2017, 16:46
Very nice. You've got some nice gear mate
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jandl100
28-03-2017, 08:53
That looks brilliant, Grant! :thumbsup:
I hope you're enjoying the sound, too - you bloody well should be, that lot looks well sorted! :lol:
Cheers Oliver, Jerry. Its looking good now, so i just have to find out how to make it sound good :eyebrows:
Those uni players were damn near a grand originally. I bought this one as new old stock and ran it for a long time. The lader went so i replced it (gingerly) and its been rock solid since. Got another spare laser too in case
jandl100
28-03-2017, 09:44
Jerry. Its looking good now, so i just have to find out how to make it sound good :eyebrows:
Hmm :hmm:
~ try swapping out the speakers for something else from your collection - I'm always suspicious of single driver full-range jobbies. Not that I've heard Telefunkens, but I've heard quite a few of the breed.
Blasphemy :D. My twin tellys aint going anywhere lol. Trouble is i only have fullrange speakers now. Well thats not quite true, i do have a nice pair of Kef Cara,s too. The telefunken alnico drivers are very good allrounders actually. Ive a set of singles too that are very nice too, but only 3ohm. These are 6 ohm due to series driving and a bit more gutsy.
Actually the pioneer amp has worked surprisingly well with them; better than i thought. Ive still to work out a way to get my top loading Tandberg cassette in to the mix without looking cluttered. Maybe a little shelf at back and stand it on end.
Tbh i use my headphone rig mostly these days as i dont have to move which is a bonus in my condition:D
jandl100
28-03-2017, 10:29
So - you go off your main rig when you use "full range" haha speakers. Take the hint! - put those cute little Celestions in and see if the system starts to boogie again! ;)
Lol. Only celestions ive got are big celelestions..they are full range too. Just like headphones now i think. Thats the trouble with cans jerry. You get used to them and speakers struggle to give you same impact. Problably a sound pressure thing
jandl100
28-03-2017, 10:44
Get one of your local mates to bring a proper (:whistle:) pair of speakers round.
Just to humour me, and so you can tell me I was wrong. :D
But yes, I do know what you mean about 'phones - you need some exceptional speakers to match a decent pair of cans in some ways.
Next time im fit i will pop the kefs in. They are nice. Not in your face . Oh i do have a small set of celestions.. forgot about them lol. Yes they are ok but not in same league as the telefunkens which you may change your mind on if you heard them
Fitted a pic behind to cover up all the old screw holes. Easier than redecorating
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Hand painted too
Very tidy Grant, I regret having given that unit away now.
jandl100
28-03-2017, 15:37
That looks fabulous, Grant! - now get the boys round and get those KEFs in. ;)
Chaos reigns as I change carts lol
Been so long. And Ive lost all my settings in the system change. We're written down. Anyway the much lower output AT95 shibata is on and playing at 2.0 gm currently. Sound is starting to sound good. I'm so used to the shure it's difficult to go back to the more refined shibata. Still done now and felt the shure deserved a rest. I don't have a replacement
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Yes its a very good cart now .. shibata tips really do shine up a cart. Think im a philistine but it turns it to more like a mc in style, and tbh i really love the in your face mm shure :D think at £145 plus imports its a bargain tbh considering what some cost.
I will give it a few days but think i might be returning to the shure eventually...
moodybuilder
03-04-2017, 15:53
Nice retro kit what is the amp above the Denton CD player, on page 221 looks great
Regards Phil
Its a pioneer sa8100. Using in main system now. Also using the Denon
moodybuilder
03-04-2017, 17:44
I see your using telefunkens as well great speaker I need to dig out some single cone/full range speakers so miss that sound how ever good these dm2 are they just can't quite match them, how does the amp sound and does it have a phono stage
Regards Phil
I see your using telefunkens as well great speaker I need to dig out some single cone/full range speakers so miss that sound how ever good these dm2 are they just can't quite match them, how does the amp sound and does it have a phono stage
Regards Phil
Amp is pretty good, with plenty power fo my needs. It needed a fair bit of attention initially but always wanted one. it has a phono stage but never tried it tbh. Yes the Telefunken are of my own design. Twin drivers per side. dont need a lot of amplification but like to be controlled at same time.
Definitely looking sharp! Very nice rig you've got there!
The under 100 rumble could be Air born. Try pulling your speakers out a foot or two, and see if it doesn't change?
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Definitely looking sharp! Very nice rig you've got there!
The under 100 rumble could be Air born. Try pulling your speakers out a foot or two, and see if it doesn't change?
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Yup, i hear ya. At moment there isnt room alas to move them further. Think the structure of the Ikea stuff perhaps doesnt help, being partially hollow.
Yup, i hear ya. At moment there isnt room alas to move them further. Think the structure of the Ikea stuff perhaps doesnt help, being partially hollow.
I realize you may not have the space to operate the speakers standing in the middle of the room, I was speaking mainly just as a test. If it proved the cause, they'd still have to go back. I wouldn't blame the IKEA stuff off hand, if it's air born vibrations, it would make little difference what the turntable was setting on. It's just the close proximity.
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Yeah know what you mean. Before i changed it the tt was next to the other speaker and didnt feel it. Next time my hip is not playing up i will try to move them away
New jumper leads lol
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walpurgis
05-04-2017, 10:15
Very posh! :D
The blue bit will blend in with carpet honest guv;). They will be one ofs even if they are the best godamned cables ever made:eek: took too long
walpurgis
05-04-2017, 10:22
Have you checked the capacitance Grant? With multiple strands running alongside each other, it may be different from 'the norm' (whoever norm is :)).
Bigman80
05-04-2017, 10:30
http://www.osdaudio.com/cable-spacers.html
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Bigman80
05-04-2017, 10:52
Look good Oliver.
I thought so. I'm going to invest in some when i re shelve the equipment.
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Have you checked the capacitance Grant? With multiple strands running alongside each other, it may be different from 'the norm' (whoever norm is :)).
About 400 pf per foot according to my calcs.
Are the multiple strands individually insulated? And if so, are those of the two conductors interwoven or braided?
Only 4 runs. They are insulated yes. More twist ed than anything ... very similar to the ones im using,its 16 awg
Does each conductor consist of four individually insulated strands, which are twisted up with the four strands of the partnering conductor?
400pF per foot (= 1.3nF/metre) does seem rather high. (For example, QED 79 strand speaker cable has a quoted capacitance of 58pF/metre.)
No they are separate conductors. Totaly separate. I need to see what equiv reading i get with ones im using that are doubles using 12awg., which overall has a bigger x section.
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walpurgis
07-04-2017, 15:24
Ah. Always liked those Tandbergs.
Its just to fill a space really. The black box didnt look right...not sure this does either tbh.:scratch:
walpurgis
07-04-2017, 15:53
The black box didnt look right...not sure this does either tbh.:scratch:
Looks fine to me.
Arkless Electronics
07-04-2017, 16:13
Ah. Always liked those Tandbergs.
Indeed... I've got 3... Must be decades since I actually played a cassette though, awful things and was glad to see their demise!
Its growing on me so leave it for now. Couldnt move it if i tried antway lol
My corner, rapidly becoming my little world is growing, or getting busier anyway
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Saves moving so much, and can keep in touch, hear music etc.
walpurgis
18-04-2017, 16:42
It'll be your computer control room soon Grant! :D
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I think that the idea that as a species we are externally focussed, embracing all that life has to offer in an expansive way is illusory.
We all live I think in little worlds; think of Mrs. May, her world is surely in one of preoccupation with masses of data on economics and public opinion, and I bet she is frenetically pawing over it all every night.
Consider the devotion to cause of Arnie, training 3 times a day, eating six measured meals a day, and devoting himself to the one big challenge in his life, winning.
So I look at myself with my pursuit, as one lady described me 40 years ago, 'Playing with all my bits of wire', and think
'Is this an expanded emancipated life?'
I think it is in the human condition to deal with life in confined ways, focussing on specific things only; you can bet that mountain climbers and skydivers do.
Quite, I think.
Just old and Ill really
Test run of jriver22 In theatre view with sox on sounds good and seems responsive etc. Outputting at 32/176
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Blimey....that touch pad has seen some action :eek:
walpurgis
19-04-2017, 18:05
And it's not fingers that have caused it! :eyebrows: :D
Hey this was the wife's. What you insinuating lol
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Tidying up and popped spare telefunkens in back ...keep them safe and allows door to open more
Spectral Morn
22-04-2017, 14:28
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Tidying up and popped spare telefunkens in back ...keep them safe and allows door to open more
Looking great Grant
Thanks Neil. Livingroom is airier and tidier as well so fairly pleased with it
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Tidying up and popped spare telefunkens in back ...keep them safe and allows door to open more
What's in the box? Is that a microphone? I've got a big studio mic in a box just like that. Your speakers are like mine, a place for decor', sometimes I think I'd rather have pointy topped speakers so I wouldn't put stuff on top of them!
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What's in the box? Is that a microphone? I've got a big studio mic in a box just like that. Your speakers are like mine, a place for decor', sometimes I think I'd rather have pointy topped speakers so I wouldn't put stuff on top of them!
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The box is records. Ive quite a few but been being hard and got it down to 3 boxes like that plus my Sinatra collection in main unit. Like a bit of decor, and make no appology lol . Im not ocd but i kinda like a bit of neatness. The speakers are not superbly finished but pass muster i guess. Twin fullrange drivers and sound excellent. The ones at back are my single (same driver) versions which are really nice too and only need a trickle really.
I think it looks great, proper man cave 😉 😎
Yes it looks most appealing. There is more to a listening room than just a stereo, it looks like a place one would want to go listen to music!
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Yes it looks most appealing. There is more to a listening room than just a stereo, it looks like a place one would want to go listen to music!
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Thanks Russell. I quite like it, plus I have a wee headphone system over at my chair so all options covered.:D
sometimes I think I'd rather have pointy topped speakers so I wouldn't put stuff on top of them!
That's where I put my amps ;)
Looking good Grant.
Just been browsing through your thread Grant and I have to say it's looking very nice indeed.
I think you could do with selling me that Pioneer SA-8100 thought!! I do miss my SA-9100. A big mistake I made selling it but heyho!
everything is possible Nathan:) Its rather nice. not perfect but quite nice. TBh I use my headphones mostly these days.
And thanks for the compliment.
:eyebrows::eek: I might hold you to that!!
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Tidying up and popped spare telefunkens in back ...keep them safe and allows door to open more
Looking very nice Grant, like the print!
Looking very nice Grant, like the print!
Quite liked it myself. B&M actually lol
:eyebrows::eek: I might hold you to that!!
Lol. We will see once we both have ourselves sorted. Still trying to move my cart. Can't believe it's not sold
Lurking gooooood.
Cheers Jason
Cheers Jason
Close - Justin you mean;)
Close - Justin you mean;)
oops, auto correct or keyboard... was on phone justin :D
Oh Deary Me!
Have i been burgled. . ;). :eyebrows: Ah well back to monos for now
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The pioneer looked better thats fir sure
vinylspinner
03-05-2017, 17:38
Hi Grant,
What has happened with the Pioneer?
The LP arrived safe and sound today btw. Thank you.
Nigel
someone twisted it out of me. the swine. ah well I dont use it so much so back to monos for now. its a bit messy but will do till I can sort it out
vinylspinner
03-05-2017, 17:55
Wasn't Nathan by any chance? 😀
Nigel
Wasn't Nathan by any chance? ��
Nigel
Im not one to blacken anyones name mate. Ggrrrr.:D. He has the tuner to go with it so fair enough. As i say im more headphones now.. looking now for another set of cans maybe but want a mojo or similar. Jerry got me wondering re that new one hes got too. So will relax til it passes
Wasn't Nathan by any chance? 😀
Nigel
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Did some juggling and popped amps on top of speakers. Some cable alterations etc and think its all phase correct etc. Not finished but looking a bit better and sounding it too
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New arrival at chez struth....
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Small but powerful
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:eyebrows:
The pioneer is now making music at Nathans ....looks really good with the tuner.
It sure is! Cheers Grant.
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It sure is! Cheers Grant.
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Looks the biz mate.
So, after buying some planar cans and they are now ensconced in my headrig over with pc, such is their greatness lol, ive put the AT dynamics over in the analogue section.
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Jerry,(jandel) offered me a loan of his dac/pre/headphone amp and i gratefully accepted.
It arrived promptly today and i eagerly opened it. Initially tried it with my pc rig on usb via jriver and spotify to the oppos... there was a distinct lowering of sound quality in comparison to the smsl m6 i use.switched to the dynamic driver AT phones and it was indeed very good.
So, now to where i intended to use it; in main system. On coax and optical( think i marginally prefer optical) the sound from the cd player is very nice on both headphones yay! Plenty power on tap for my cans. Impressed with it. Think i will get one [emoji3]
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brian2957
15-05-2017, 12:27
Nice one Grant :) This seems to be a very nice DAC . Jerry usually says it how it is , if it's good he'll tell you so :)
Nice one Grant :) This seems to be a very nice DAC . Jerry usually says it how it is , if it's good he'll tell you so :)
got Nina on cd and its very nice indeed. both sets of phones work well out of the optical. no so impressed with the usb though so far. still i dont intend using usb with it. might just be a bad mix with the planar cans. lost the soundstage
brian2957
15-05-2017, 12:43
Mmm.. Doesn't Jerry use it via USB ? Why not ask him if he has had any problems in that area .
Mmm.. Doesn't Jerry use it via USB ? Why not ask him if he has had any problems in that area .
no idea. it was ok on the dynamic phones. as I say might just be a bad mix with the planar ones. quite nice bass, maybe too much for the planar
i like it
jandl100
15-05-2017, 17:29
Mmm.. Doesn't Jerry use it via USB ? Why not ask him if he has had any problems in that area .
I agree the USB is sonically the weakest of the inputs - I used a Halide Bridge USB->RCA converter with it to excellent effect. Sounds fab that way.
I agree the USB is sonically the weakest of the inputs - I used a Halide Bridge USB->RCA converter with it to excellent effect. Sounds fab that way.
maybe a bit rich those.. last one i saw was dearer than the whole unit by a margin. TBh I quite like the 2 other connections, and the usb was quite good with the A Technica cans. Not tried running the main system through it as an analogue signal as of yet. Seems to have choice of ss or valve so thats very flexible
jandl100
15-05-2017, 17:44
Not tried running the main system through it as an analogue signal as of yet.
Ah right - I was going to ask about that!
Yes, those Halide Bridge widgets usually sell for around £170 used, so substantially more than one of those DACs new. :D
I'd rate the Xiang Sheng as better than a £grands worth of DAC sonically, so in that context the Halide Bridge is sensible value!
Ah right - I was going to ask about that!
Yes, those Halide Bridge widgets usually sell for around £170 used, so substantially more than one of those DACs new. :D
I'd rate the Xiang Sheng as better than a £grands worth of DAC sonically, so in that context the Halide Bridge is sensible value!
I like its flexability Jerry. can take several inputs so now I have tried it and if I still continue to like it I will get one. they seem to have come down in price a little as I see there is a new one out. Think this model will do me for my needs though. Suits my other gear physically too. The usb on the smsl is very good if your ever looking for one although forgot youve got a fancy French one now.
I like its flexability Jerry. can take several inputs so now I have tried it and if I still continue to like it I will get one. they seem to have come down in price a little as I see there is a new one out. Think this model will do me for my needs though. Suits my other gear physically too. The usb on the smsl is very good if your ever looking for one although forgot youve got a fancy French one now.
I thought this was the new one?
jandl100
15-05-2017, 18:06
Yep, Grant has the one with the fancy Cirrus chip in, I think that is the latest one. I might be wrong, though! There are quite a few variants of the Xiang Sheng DAC around - I think grant's is the latest -01A.
There is another, but its not quite the same. (03) yes this is the current model. Believe it will get superceded though soon.. Will do me I think nicely. interesting to hear what its like with analogue too. Get round to that soon. got carried away with headphone listening today :lol:
jandl100
15-05-2017, 18:28
There is another
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:D
walpurgis
15-05-2017, 19:13
Looks pretty smart that DAC Grant. Dunno anything about them though. :)
Looks pretty smart that DAC Grant. Dunno anything about them though. :)
Lol. Heard that one before
You might like it
well some alterations to wiring etc and some setting changes and i have usb from a different pc into main system via this dac, and sounding quite good too.
Also switched the chromecast to optical here and into the dac for radio and spotify. this is working well too.
Ive connected up for sending through main system but not tried it yet. lunch time if i can drag myself away
I see jerry's one has v/c in circuit when in pre only mode/ie not on headphones :scratch:
jandl100
16-05-2017, 12:04
Ah.
It's so new I hadn't gotten around to trying adjusting headphone volume.
Probably an internal switch / jumper to do that?
No instruction leaflet with it but probably info on t'Net.
Lol.. they said the vc was just for headphones. I did read somewhere that you could specify it to work with the normal output cable too. Interesting development if you didnt ask for it. Well ive not tried an analogue source yet but its connected on digital ones.:)
Think i will order one. Probably take a few weeks to come from Chinaland. Or did u get yours elsewhere?
jandl100
16-05-2017, 12:16
I got mine from this seller http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XiangSheng-DAC-01A-DAC-Tube-USB-Decoders-Headphone-PreAmplifier-24Bit-192Khz-New/181251768912?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Took 11 days to get to me with DHL and DHL charged £20 import etc duties which I paid online.
Thanks.. ive had a shot of it in main system. Vol on the unit full open and on valve out. Cd was also going through my buffer.. sounded very nice with wide sstage. Impressed overall by it, and has to be a bargain. Cheers jerry for loan
jandl100
16-05-2017, 15:48
It is a good'un.
Try it on the solid state output - just a touch more precise and detailed.
--- and I prefer the volume at the 12 o'clock position!
It is a good'un.
Try it on the solid state output - just a touch more precise and detailed.
--- and I prefer the volume at the 12 o'clock position!
will give that a go. Ive ordered one anyway from same lace that you got yours. Not heard back from them. Chinese are usually quick to click the dispatched etc but not this seller.
jandl100
17-05-2017, 19:57
Keep my loaner till yours arrives. :)
Cheers; if your sure... Ive enjoyed my time with it:)
brian2957
17-05-2017, 20:06
I'll have to get over to yours and get a listen to this Grant :)
I'll have to get over to yours and get a listen to this Grant :)
anytime mate.... ive got a soldering job for you anyway;) my old eyes dont go that small :lol:
brian2957
17-05-2017, 20:29
anytime mate.... ive got a soldering job for you anyway;) my old eyes dont go that small :lol:
No problem mate , I'll get something sorted out soon :)
No problem mate , I'll get something sorted out soon :)
Look forward to it Brian.:)
It is a good'un.
Try it on the solid state output - just a touch more precise and detailed.
--- and I prefer the volume at the 12 o'clock position!
well, Ive tried a number of positions and prefer full out and use the vc's on my amps Jerry. much better resolution and soundstage for me. and set it about half way for headphones. Prefer the ss version I think although the valve is ok and interesting too. not done enough testing to come to a conclusion there.
jandl100
22-05-2017, 11:33
Ah, interesting about the volume control position.
I probably didn't even try any but the 12 o'clock position on the new one as that was defo preferred on my older version that Martin tried.
Quite looking forward to getting "your" one back now and having a try with it at full whack! :D
-- no rush, really, hang on to it tlll your one arrives, no problem.
Been playing vinyl and trying things. Lol
Ive found puting a slate at front of cd and tt has improved sound. No real idea why but it has
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Vibration reflections maybe
Grab another roof slate and fit it under the TT ?
See if that makes a difference as well
They are tabletop slates.. should have more out in store. Next time i am out i will find them
jandl100
29-05-2017, 17:05
Nice result, but what on earth made you try it?! :scratch:
brian2957
29-05-2017, 17:09
Nice result, but what on earth made you try it?! :scratch:
He's a slate short of a full dinner set :mental: :D
lol.
.. I was getting vibration on cd player and had put a slate between cd and speaker to deflect it which it did a bit but then later wondered if it was getting affected and thus the tt too from the front so stuck a slate in front and boy it sounded better. Must be bouncing of the wall ...there is a mirror there over fireplace. Not easiest place to deaden. Need to think how I can make it more user friendly.:eyebrows:
Frazeur1
30-05-2017, 09:13
Just don't knock that thing off onto your foot Grant! You will be doing the two-step mighty quickly!
It sure is! Cheers Grant.
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I am digging the granite topped tables!
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farflungstar
31-05-2017, 08:03
Granite is a great material for table tops and under turntables. I just had a piece 180cm x 64cm x 2cm fitted - the downside was it took 3 guys to bring it and put it into place. So my HiFi's staying put - forever!
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Ha ha well packed anyway.
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Right colour too
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And there be music here captain
Sounds great. Even better than i remember it
Hi rez pic... and a big thanks to Jerry for a loan of his to make my mind up [emoji3]
It is really in the 1k level
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jandl100
31-05-2017, 17:14
Hi rez pic... and a big thanks to Jerry for a loan of his to make my mind up [emoji3]
It is really in the 1k level
:thumbsup:
I've heard a few £1k+ DACs that can't get near it. ;)
Bigman80
31-05-2017, 17:23
Is this what you're hooking up Grant?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310403538260
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jandl100
31-05-2017, 17:27
Go for this seller - much cheaper!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181251768912?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
walpurgis
31-05-2017, 17:29
Wouldn't mind trying one of those sometime Grant.
Got mine from the seller Jerry shows. Came via DHL and had to pay only £21 cash at the door. for vat and the dhl charge, which was excellent. £130 all in; cant do much better anywhere and itsvery versitile as well as good. 15 days total.
jandl100
31-05-2017, 17:35
Wouldn't mind trying one of those sometime Grant.
You want to borrow mine, Geoff? (Same one as Grant tried).
Just PM me your name/address and I'll pop it in t'post.
Wouldn't mind trying one of those sometime Grant.
Think you would like it Geoff.
brian2957
31-05-2017, 17:58
Looking good chaps . I'll get a listen next time I'm over Grant :)
Bigman80
31-05-2017, 19:18
Top stuff. I'll prepare funds. I quite fancy one of these.
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walpurgis
31-05-2017, 21:18
You want to borrow mine, Geoff?
I'd love to try it Jerry, but at the moment I have absolutely nowhere to put it. You'd not believe the mountain of gear in front of me at the moment! :lol:
If I get some space and you still have it I'd like to take you up on that. Thanks.
Bigman80
01-06-2017, 11:23
Quick question guys, theres seems to be a
XiangSheng DAC-01A
And a
XiangSheng DAC-02A
Any idea if one is better than the other?
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jandl100
01-06-2017, 11:34
I've not heard the 2A but have heard reports that it is brighter / more forward than the 1A. Don't think I would prefer it.
There are quite a few variants of the dac around, I've only heard an old and new 1A. Both are excellent but the newer one (as in the link above) is even more transparent and detailed. It's a great Dac, imo.
Bigman80
01-06-2017, 11:36
I've not heard the 2A but have heard reports that it is brighter / more forward than the 1A. Don't think I would prefer it.
There are quite a few variants of the dac around, I've only heard an old and new 1A. Both are excellent but the newer one (as in the link above) is even more transparent and detailed. It's a great Dac, imo.
Fair enough, I'll probably pick one up. Thanks for the info!
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so how does this work,do you just plug it inline between your cd and amp? do you need to turn the internal dac off?
its a pre amp/ dac and also a headphone amp. This one seems to me to be better volume wise than the loan one for some reason or Ive just go lucky with a position. Got it set at about 10 oclock and its working fine for both headphones and system. Still using the ss output rather than the valve one for now. Controls didnt have markings on though so I marked them myself with a blue paintpen. Quite pleased with it... nice of our Jerry to have loaned me his. Tremendous value.
Quick question guys, theres seems to be a
XiangSheng DAC-01A
And a
XiangSheng DAC-02A
Any idea if one is better than the other?
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the 02 is purely digital input wise. The 01 takes analogue as well. other than that, you get 2 buttons instead of a pot so digital vc too,
Bigman80
02-06-2017, 05:30
the 02 is purely digital input wise. The 01 takes analogue as well. other than that, you get 2 buttons instead of a pot so digital vc too,
Cheers Grant.
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Bigman80
03-06-2017, 07:13
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xiangsheng-Dac-03A-03A-Pcm1794a-Te7022l-Usb-Bnc-24Bit-192K-Headphone-Amplifier-V/132166395780?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26 asc%3D43781%26meid%3Dd0c9c12c8dce4282b3c4294fcd357 b9c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D28250 6534284
seems to be another version too!
There are a few different ones but the 01 is the only one that takes analogue in afaik. That was one of the things I needed,
Bigman80
03-06-2017, 07:52
There are a few different ones but the 01 is the only one that takes analogue in afaik. That was one of the things I needed,
Why is that important, Grant. I'm thinking of USB from the Laptop and Coax from CD to DAC i suppose that means any version is ok?
I can have an all in system with it. Vinyl goes through it as does tape plus dig sources, all to my amp but can also get analogue and digital outputs for headphones without altering anything. even the chromecast goes through it:eyebrows:
Bigman80
03-06-2017, 08:03
Ah! I see. I shall take it all into consideration
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brian2957
03-06-2017, 08:20
These look interesting . Have you sent the loaner back to Jerry Grant ?
These look interesting . Have you sent the loaner back to Jerry Grant ?
Yes Brian. a week ago or so. Got my own one now ;)
brian2957
03-06-2017, 08:25
They look very versatile , and a very good price into the bargain :)
Very pleased with it mate.:)
jandl100
03-06-2017, 13:05
These look interesting . Have you sent the loaner back to Jerry Grant ?
I'd offer to loan you mine. Brian, as a French NOS DAC has been finding favour chez Jerry.
But last night I swapped back to the Xiang Sheng and it seems to be the best match I have for the Bel Canto preamp, using the valve output as well. Fab pizzaz. :)
I'd offer to loan you mine. Brian, as a French NOS DAC has been finding favour chez Jerry.
But last night I swapped back to the Xiang Sheng and it seems to be the best match I have for the Bel Canto preamp, using the valve output as well. Fab pizzaz. :)
Broke it in for you Jerry :D.
jandl100
03-06-2017, 13:32
Thanks for that, you did a great job. :thumbsup:
:lol:
Thanks for that, you did a great job. :thumbsup:
brian2957
03-06-2017, 16:00
I'd offer to loan you mine. Brian, as a French NOS DAC has been finding favour chez Jerry.
But last night I swapped back to the Xiang Sheng and it seems to be the best match I have for the Bel Canto preamp, using the valve output as well. Fab pizzaz. :)
Thanks Jerry , no problem . I'll get a listen to Grants
jandl100
06-06-2017, 13:30
Thanks Jerry , no problem . I'll get a listen to Grants
It's available again if you fancy a loan, Brian. :)
brian2957
06-06-2017, 15:16
OK mate thanks . Do you still have my address ?
jandl100
06-06-2017, 15:24
OK mate thanks . Do you still have my address ?
Yup, I'll get it on its way Thursday probably.
brian2957
06-06-2017, 15:39
Thanks Jerry :)
New toy to play with
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sound very good on Bluetooth aptx that i can say. would be better with an active sub. Need to try and find one as there is a socket at back for one.
Very impressive tho
walpurgis
17-06-2017, 17:31
Ah. So you decided on a set then Grant? How are they?
A little bass shy as you'd expect Geoff. only 4" drivers so a sub will assist that. but clarity is superb and they are quick too. surprised how good the aptx 4.1 Bluetooth is. bordering on redbook
Some more pics.
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Overall a very decent set of actives. Quite powerful too
brian2957
17-06-2017, 21:19
Sorry if I've missed something , but what are these Grant ?
Active speakers brian. Q acoustic with aptx Bluetooth etc. Sub out too. If and when I can afford one work better than I hoped cute too
walpurgis
17-06-2017, 21:39
Shouldn't be hard to track down a small active sub. One with upper roll off and level adjustment obviously.
brian2957
17-06-2017, 21:43
Active speakers brian. Q acoustic with aptx Bluetooth etc. Sub out too. If and when I can afford one work better than I hoped cute too
They look very nice mate:)
Sub woofer has arrived and been installed with the small speakers...waoh lol. What an improvement. Got the mission soundtrack on and have to say its an impressive little system now.
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Canton make some really good bits of kit
jandl100
22-06-2017, 14:59
Yep, subs can transform small speakers in quite unexpected ways.
It's about scale and dynamics and imaging as well as bass.
Another really good pairing is LS3/5a with a decent small sub. Whoa! indeed. :)
Active speakers brian. Q acoustic with aptx Bluetooth etc. Sub out too. If and when I can afford one work better than I hoped cute too
Blarrrgh! Take them to a car re-spray shop pronto and get that awful colour changed! :eek:
Yep, subs can transform small speakers in quite unexpected ways.
It's about scale and dynamics and imaging as well as bass.
Another really good pairing is LS3/5a with a decent small sub. Whoa! indeed. :)
Plenty power from its amp and control too Could also use it with main speakers as it has high speakers in. I take it you would just attach them over the speaker ones
playing the Africa soundtrack, it was extremely good though the Chinese dac/amp and into the small speakers with the Sub in. you would have thought the big speakers were playing, such was the scale.:)
walpurgis
23-06-2017, 09:41
You'll be flogging everything else then? ;)
You'll be flogging everything else then? ;)
tempted... need the big speakers to sit the little ones on tho/
Trying out a cartridge with view to buying...i intended buying but Jerry kindly(and, well, was confident enough) lol to let me try first.
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So set up was painless in this case as it prett much fitted same criteria as my wooden head and shure cart so minimal adjustments.
Set the tracking to just below max at 1.85gm.
Yes a mk1 goes that high.
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Started with billy holliday, and even though its old recordings, it came through very clearly.
Followed by duke ellington and a 200gm (yup, getting confidence) and sounded again very good. Very assured tracking too.
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No test should be without some ralph mctell. On to streets.... seperation and speed are super.
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This is a very good cart. ADC xlm mk1 integra mm
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jandl100
29-06-2017, 14:05
My god, those are crap photos. :lol:
Great cart, though! :)
I only bought it for nostalgia reasons as I had an ADC XLM I waaaay back in the long lost days of my yoof.
Cor blimey, I was blown away how good it sounds!
no light today in room and this cart doesnt like a flash. plus i can hardly stand now so your lucky to get what you got :lol: yes its very decent, and akin to a good mc yet with the best of an mm:eyebrows:
Managed to get main light on...
So here it is in light
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jandl100
29-06-2017, 14:46
Awesome :thumbsup:
Bigman80
29-06-2017, 16:45
Looking good Grant. You have an enviable system.
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Looking good Grant. You have an enviable system.
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cheers Oli.. Sounding ok again, as are the little ones which I can run from same dac/pre without changing anything. can actually play both at same time as it has 2 outputs simultaneously
Bigman80
30-06-2017, 07:37
cheers Oli.. Sounding ok again, as are the little ones which I can run from same dac/pre without changing anything. can actually play both at same time as it has 2 outputs simultaneously
That little DAC is on my "try" list. There's a 2nd hand one on eBay but it's too near the price for a new one. I'll pick one up at some point.
One the Alphason is in and tried, and I've picked a winner, I'll be focusing on the Digital side.
Good thread Grant.
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Cycleallday
30-06-2017, 07:41
Yep, subs can transform small speakers in quite unexpected ways.
It's about scale and dynamics and imaging as well as bass.
Another really good pairing is LS3/5a with a decent small sub. Whoa! indeed. :)
What sub would you suggest to go with the LS3/5a - I use a pair of the new Falcons on my desk and would like to try a sub with them.
Mel
walpurgis
30-06-2017, 08:23
What sub would you suggest to go with the LS3/5a - I use a pair of the new Falcons on my desk and would like to try a sub with them.
Mel
I believe the Avant Garde Basshorn can be obtained for around £20,000. :D
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj505/struthsbowler/people/image_2.jpeg
just embedded this from the bucket.. see if it disappears.
this one I have uploaded to site in an album to prove the system works and can be used by members
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=20657&d=1498905170
jandl100
01-07-2017, 13:06
What sub would you suggest to go with the LS3/5a - I use a pair of the new Falcons on my desk and would like to try a sub with them.
Mel
I had a BK200 sub, it kept the lovely mids of the LS3/5a but added a sense of scale and dynamics to the presentation that was quite startling.
Oh, and deeper bass, too!
jandl100
02-07-2017, 08:19
this one I have uploaded to site in an album to prove the system works and can be used by members
http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=20657&d=1498905170
What? - photos can be loaded directly on to AOS?
How does that work? - got a linky?
Method to upload photos to site...
Click on your username at top. On next page down left hand side there is a section called albums. Click on more, then on create album. Give it a title and description, leave it public and save.
Then click upload pictures, the add files. Add files which should show in a row below. Once you have the ones you want in that row, click done at bottom right. Then save changes button.
Now when you click on that pic, you willl receive a bb code at bottom.. post that directly into your post( no brackets are needed at they have been added).
Done...
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