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Thanks Will, that's very helpful. I did notice yesterday that the DAC+ is listed as an option in the picoreplayer output dropdown, which gave me to think it'll just be a click and select. I notice the software was updated just last month - perhaps a recent addition? Or I could be wrong and I'll have to do the putty thing. Either way I'm sure I'll get it going.
Incidentally after I wrote last night, continued listening changed my impressions somewhat of this improvised setup. It definitely improved quite a lot in the two hours or so that I listened. I promise I didn't have enough beer to distort my perceptions....
...perhaps it wasn't just beer ;)
I'm pretty sure I'm on the latest piCorePlayer upgrade, and am using the latest Squeezeplayer from Triode...so it's still going to require Putty & SSH to get into the alsamixer, with the ip address I'd reckon you'll be SSH'd to your Pi within 30 seconds...the great thing about getting into the ALSAMIXER is it's 'real time', you can slide the master 'PCM' volume up and down to find the sweet spot for your pre-amp...it took me a day to realise this :doh: I'd assumed that it required a reboot to change the settings...
The nice thing that piCorePlayer provides is the 'sudo alsacfg store' command, which commits your settings to the config file for restoration on reboot :)
I won't bother going into the sound quality of the pi-DAC+, enough has already been mentioned, the other thing that is wonderful when using the piCorePlayer/pi configuration is that it's connectivity and performance amongst 4 other SBdevices, synced or not, is bullet proof! It can't be crashed, or corrupted, and laughs in the face of power cuts...es los testículos perros!!! ;)
I'm just listening using PiCorePlayer outputting over I2S and I've not had to touch the command line...
BTW if anybody is on a Mac and they get the error: Error Opening Terminal: xterm-256color when trying to run alsamixer from the command line you can fix it by editing .config with
nano ~/.config
then adding:
TERM="xterm"
export TERM
control o to write it out, hit enter
control x to quite
Hi,
Burn in should take around 40-50 hours before the Pi Dac hits it's peak 😋
Mile.
I'm just listening using PiCorePlayer outputting over I2S and I've not had to touch the command line...
You don't need to, unless you're using the pi-DAC+, and even then it's just to perfect its output levels, so there's no need...just want! ;)
http://www.iqaudio.com/downloads/IQaudIO.pdf scroll down to page 7 & 8...ALSAMIXER volume and digital filter settings for the pi_DAC+
Battery or Linear PSU? Hmmm, I don't know! I can't decide, it's swings n roundabouts, there are subtle but identifiable differences especially at the top end but which is preferable or 'correct'.....?
Also, there are differences between players it seems; going from volume / moOde to PiCorePlayer / Max2play changes the presentation...I'm leaning towards Max2play at the moment purely on functional grounds....
Bourneendboy
19-04-2015, 14:09
Does anyone know of a confirmed date for the IQaudIO DAC to be back in stock? I know the website says mid to late April.
If anyone knows it will be Gordon@IQ don't believe anyone else - he is the man
When: A Tweet from IQ says very soon. On 4/4 3 weeks was stated by IQ so during this week maybe.
I see most people make their Raspberry discussion on this Marco thread. So how many have tried something other than Volumio as they player / sound generator source. I appreciate most folks think in terms of the hardware (cos its what they can see and relate to) BUT software is equally important, not just the appearance but how it sends the file to the DAC and instructs the DAC.
piCorePlayer
Rune
any other candidates and stories of discovery from AoS?
Hi Alan,
I switched to using Moode Audio having had an issue with having to reset the output volume after every reboot in Volumio - There are only some very subtle differences in the menus between Moode, Volumio and Rune Audio, the underlying player in each being MPD, so the core playback mechanism is the same in each case and I certainly heard no difference in quality between Moode and Volumio. I would expect PiCorePlayer to sound different due to its relationship with the LMS/Squeezebox Server but I've never done a direct comparison between the two.
piCorePlayer
Rune
any other candidates and stories of discovery from AoS?
I did wrestle with the SqueezePlug/Max2play distro, but didn't have a great deal of success with regard to WiFi connectivity, despite giving it a good go...it may well have been user error, however I had piCorePlayer up and running with WiFi very easily...:)
Battery or Linear PSU? Hmmm, I don't know! I can't decide, it's swings n roundabouts, there are subtle but identifiable differences especially at the top end but which is preferable or 'correct'.....?
This interests me too. By 'top end' do you mean at high frequency or is it an allusion to the quality of the set up? I have one of Nick (Lurcher's) excellent Linear supplies, which I'd like to press into service but I'm having trouble locating a 2.5 female (?) to mini USB adapter. Anyone know if such a thing exists?
Canetoad
21-04-2015, 02:51
Bought mine here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251786633007?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) but it's 5.5/2.1 plug. This was the most common configuration when I was searching. :)
By the way, I'm using the Longdog PSU I used for my Touch, which has a 5.5/2.1 plug.
Just FYI, the Touch plug is 2.5mm not 2.1mm
Gordon@IQ
21-04-2015, 07:12
Quick update for those that are interested. Pi-DAC+ boards are currently in manufacturing at the factory in Scotland. I should have them in the next few days at which point they will be tested. If no major screw ups (with the physical boards) then they will be made available on tindie.com shortly after.
Best regards,
Gordon@IQaudIO.com
Rothchild
21-04-2015, 07:18
When: A Tweet from IQ says very soon. On 4/4 3 weeks was stated by IQ so during this week maybe.
I see most people make their Raspberry discussion on this Marco thread. So how many have tried something other than Volumio as they player / sound generator source. I appreciate most folks think in terms of the hardware (cos its what they can see and relate to) BUT software is equally important, not just the appearance but how it sends the file to the DAC and instructs the DAC.
piCorePlayer
Rune
any other candidates and stories of discovery from AoS?
I use Madsonic (a fork of Subsonic) on my Pi and find it excellent. You could run it alongside MPD (Volumio etc) and it gives you the ability to transcode files in realtime for service across the network (and wider internet) - so you can have your music on your phone, or any web capable device, keep your files in their highest resolution format but stream them in lower res as your network allows. You can also access it with players such as VLC, which because it can play FLAC also allows me to listen in full res on a remote machine.
Well worth a try imo.
tubehunter
21-04-2015, 07:28
Hi all
I think the reason the various power supplies I've built and tested on the Pi 2 didn't do much is,
"The A, A+, and B models use linear power regulators while the B+ and the Raspberry Pi 2 Model B have switching regulators which reduce power consumption by between 0.5W and 1W."
I therefore believe it's pointless messing around with external power supplies unless you do some onboard mods.
I'm just enjoying as it is[emoji3]
Duncan
This interests me too. By 'top end' do you mean at high frequency or is it an allusion to the quality of the set up?
Hi Bernie, I notice the difference on percussion, IE: Hi Hats and also on Snare drum. The battery adds a slight 'glare' to the sound but at the same time seems to be a bit more 'airy'. Also with some synthesized percussion sound effects the effect apparently moves with respect to the 'speakers. I can't say which is right or wrong it's just different, my preference though is leaning toward the linear supply...IME there is some milage to be gained on the RPi2 by trying different supplies just as there was with the SB Touch.
Thanks - but who's Bernie? :scratch:
Thanks Duncan, I don't doubt what you say in the slightest, but as I have a suitable PSU (barring a suitable adapater) I may as well put it to the test.
What's .4mm among friends? If it works does it matter? Or ought I really to track a 2.5mm one down?
Simon
Canetoad
21-04-2015, 09:22
Hi Nick, thanks for that. The adaptor cable works fine with it still.
Hi Simon,
I was looking for a usb to 2.5mm plug.
Could't find one so I went for a pair of these. You will need to solder them.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181370321908?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Quick update for those that are interested. Pi-DAC+ boards are currently in manufacturing at the factory in Scotland. I should have them in the next few days at which point they will be tested. If no major screw ups (with the physical boards) then they will be made available on tindie.com shortly after.
Best regards,
Gordon@IQaudIO.com
Excellent news!
Battery or Linear PSU?
After a lovely evening listening with my Pi connected to a MCRU power supply (http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/power-supplies/1088-regulated-linear-power-supply-for-raspberry-pi-pi-2.html?bPost=1), it's a no brainer for me. I'm just loving it.
Good stuff Rob, Nick knows how to make a good PSU ;) I'm just in the throws of tweaking my DIY version, I need to drop a few more volts and will do that with another stage of regulation...
Fantastic reading (been here for the last two nights) but well worth it !!!
I am going to dip my toes in the water too but i have a question regarding the Volumio interface, which is can this be controlled on my tablet via an app? If so can i see all my albums and select just one to play,also can i see all my tracks as a complete playlist and play them via random playback?
Thanks again
Mark Grant
22-04-2015, 18:46
Anyone got Spotify connect working on the Pi yet ? :eyebrows:
Anyone got Spotify connect working on the Pi yet ? :eyebrows:
Yes. Mass wisdom suggests it will only work on a fresh install.
Fantastic reading (been here for the last two nights) but well worth it !!!
I am going to dip my toes in the water too but i have a question regarding the Volumio interface, which is can this be controlled on my tablet via an app? It is a web interface. I have not heard of an App but someone is bound to
If so can i see all my albums and select just one to play,also can i see all my tracks as a complete playlist and play them via random playback?
Thanks again
Wow. Why not dip those feet and you will see. Yes you can select one album and random play. I do not use it like that. Get those feet wet
Yes. Mass wisdom suggests it will only work on a fresh install.
Not so here, unfortunately....
Marco.
The Black Adder
22-04-2015, 20:11
Does anyone control the RPi with a tablet device other than an Apple? There are plenty of other makes out there. I'm just not an Apple person you see.
Does anyone control the RPi with a tablet device other than an Apple? There are plenty of other makes out there. I'm just not an Apple person you see.
Volumio/Moode/Rune are all controlled from a browser window so use any tablet you want...you can even control picoreplayer/max2play via a browser but you interface with LMS instead and not the RPi directly...these last two work better via an app though.
Spotify https://volumio.org/forum/spotify-not-working-t2272.html
I had a used Volumio install, Spotify would not work, and an unused one. The latter now has Spotify working.
I see what you mean... I'll see if I can be arsed installing a fresh version of Volumio. TBH, they should get these things right, and sort out any issues FIRST, before the system goes live, so that folk can just get on with using and enjoying what should be something that's straightforward and simple! :)
Marco.
Frankyc2003
23-04-2015, 10:17
Anyone got Spotify connect working on the Pi yet ? :eyebrows:
I have installed Volumio version 1.55 on a SD card, and Spotify worked straight away, wired and wireless. The Spotify search works a treat, but I still can't browse my through tracks on my playlist…
The sound quality is fantastic as well, for some 320 Kbs files, the resolution is staggering… I am still waiting to get my NAS sorted, then we will pull out the big Hi res guns!:eyebrows:
Does anyone control the RPi with a tablet device other than an Apple? There are plenty of other makes out there. I'm just not an Apple person you see.
There is now a Volumio app available for Android which I find works quite nicely, but I've gone with a slightly different solution that doesn't use the Volumio interface and gives me a LOT more flexibility in how I browse and what I can send to the Pi (this will work for a Pi running Volumio/Rune/Moode or any players that can accept a uPNP connection:
All of my music is stored on a Netgear ReadyNAS and on this I run a lightweight media server called MinimServer: http://minimserver.com/downloads/ - There are also versions for QNAP and Synology NAS drives available as well as Windows, Mac and Linux.
With Minimserver sharing my music over uPNP, I can now run any uPNP app on my mobile devices to control it - I use BubbleuPNP on my Nexus 7 tablet and on my Android phone connected over the wireless network. This connects to Minimserver which gives me the list of all of my music and playlists (and this is highly configurable so that you can sort your music exactly as you want it displayed with artwork, sorted by year, album etc. and sort artists names by last name, first name if you want to which was the real clincher for me). On the other side of your connection is the 'renderer', telling BubbleuPNP where to send the music you click, so my Pi is chosen as the renderer (you can send to multiple devices or just have your mobile device as the renderer which is very handy for being sat with your headphones on anywhere in the house), so clicking on a song/album chooses it from the NAS and tells the NAS to send it to the Pi (the music is not streamed via the mobile device, it's a direct connection between NAS and Pi).
What I really love about this setup is that I can have all of the new BBC HD radio streams saved into a playlist as Minimserver is happy to access these streams and send them to the Pi and these sound great.
So if you find the Volumio interface a bit limiting and want something a bit nicer with tags sorted properly, album artwork displays, FAST navigation, proper playlist handling, and multi-device capability, have a look at this.
Oh and I didn't mention that you can also stream from a load of cloud and streaming services with it too - Tidal, Google Play music, Napster, Deezer and a load of others are all supported.
Rich,
I almost reached for miniserver to replace LMS after the BBC switched from AAC to HLS radio streams. Once the fixes for LMS and some of its plugins appeared, I forgot about it. I was under the impression that decent upnp renders for Linux were few and far between and hadn't realised MPD had a upnp plugin/patch. So this looks like a very useful alternative, assuming you don't need some of the other LMS plugins like BBC iplayer, with a straightforward way to make the RPi into upnp renderer using Volumio, and freely available control apps for your table/phone. Must try this out ..
PS Useless things have changed, one of the weak points of MPD is the amount of network traffic sent to the client app when scrolling through lists, hence navigation of large music libraries/playlist can be slow.
Good info Rich, I'll have to check it out at some point, so many alternatives! :)
I've finished adding another stage of regulation to my DIY supply for the RPi and think it has improved slightly from before. The Pre-Tracking reg on the ALWSR board now has an easier time and is fed a cleaner supply, I 'scoped the o/p and there's precious little noise on the 5v line to speak of...not bad for about £25 in parts :D
This linear supply is really growing on me! Now just need that IQaudio DAC to compare against, Gordon, how are they coming along? :)
This linear supply is really growing on me! Now just need that IQaudio DAC to compare against, Gordon, how are they coming along? :)
He tweeted earlier today (https://twitter.com/IQ_audio/status/591223352414642177) saying: "First of new 2015 Pi-DAC+ boards back, initial testing successful. Big green GO button has now been pressed to build! ".
Does anyone know is it possible to run the aWARemote server with the Rpi ? I have been using this server on my laptop and the aWARemote app on the tablet which controls winamp, so i would really like to continue with this as it is a great interface for what i need. I guess i would need to install winamp on the SD card as well as the aWARemote server too?
Check his tweets @IQ_audio
At 1353 this tweet. He is busy
@IQ_audio: First of new 2015 Pi-DAC+ boards back, initial testing successful. Big green GO button has now been pressed to build! http://t.co/9rbLSBU2ui
Aligauld
23-04-2015, 19:35
Hi There,
First of all a big Thank You to Marco for pointing me in this direction. My Maplin DAC was playing up a bit and so I purchased a Pi2, Hifiberry DAC+ (I'm not the patient sort), NAS box and a couple of 2Tb hard drives.
The last 24 hrs have been taken up transferring nearly 2Tb of music to the NAS but this afternoon I got a envelope from Switzerland with the DAC+ and so this evening everything has been put together and I'm mightily impressed.
Listened to side 2 of Abbey Road in 24Bit, some Drive-by Truckers, Albert King Wednesday Night in San Francisco and finally Kashmir Hi-res from the 2015 reissue.
I was a sceptic but I admit I was wrong FBA can sound really, really good.
Things will only get better as everything burns in.
Sitting back on the couch now controlling everything from my iPad mini.
Thanks again.
Cheers,
Alistair
Anyone in a position to summarise this thread? I can't face trawling nearly 800 posts, but would like to know the sum of the opinions and knowledge herein.
John
Anyone in a position to summarise this thread? I can't face trawling nearly 800 posts, but would like to know the sum of the opinions and knowledge herein.
John
I will....super cheap device knocks super expensive devices out of the park.
For anyone with most basic computer skills it sounds like a no brainer, no soldering or woodwork required. Jury still on out on PSUs so it seems.
The Black Adder
24-04-2015, 05:37
Anyone in a position to summarise this thread? I can't face trawling nearly 800 posts, but would like to know the sum of the opinions and knowledge herein.
John
+1
I must admit I've lost my way too... It's a mega thread.
Here is what I need to know:
Purchase requirements:-
x1 RPi 2
x1 Qi Dac
x1 Case
x1 Wi-fi dongle
x1 wall wart PSU - for now.
x1 Micro SD card
x1 Android tablet or phone
Is that it?
I might have missed some instructions on installing somewhere too... can anyone point to them for me?
Does this help? http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/1241/build-raspberry-based-audio-streamer
The biggest decision will be what s/w to go for, Martin's thread only shows Volumio but its very similar to Moode and Rune....
The Black Adder
24-04-2015, 09:29
Cool, thanks neil.
Frankyc2003
24-04-2015, 09:56
+1
I must admit I've lost my way too... It's a mega thread.
Here is what I need to know:
Purchase requirements:-
x1 RPi 2
x1 Qi Dac
x1 Case
x1 Wi-fi dongle
x1 wall wart PSU - for now.
x1 Micro SD card
x1 Android tablet or phone
Is that it?
I might have missed some instructions on installing somewhere too... can anyone point to them for me?
You don't even need the WIFI dongle. Wired ethernet cable works fine. And you can drive the whole thing from your laptop, no need to buy a tablet or a pad...
The Black Adder
24-04-2015, 10:32
Thanks... yes I'm coming round to using the lappy actually.
I'd rather plug my hard drive straight in to it with USB me thinks anyway.
Canetoad
25-04-2015, 01:22
I use GMPC (Gnome Music Player Client) on my W8.1 laptop and it works fine.
A 'heads up' for anyone using piCorePlayer...
Stick with 1.19, don't go to 1.19i pi2, as you will find that the 'Tweaks' menu is unavailable....'404' ! :doh:
Which means you can only run with the 'default' ALSA settings, with 1.19 one can set it to 'Custom' :)
https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/comments
Hi,
Just need case anyone is using Logitech Squeezebox Controller from their android phone or tablet to control their Pi, be aware that updating to Android 5.0.1 or above stops the app working.
I've now had to start using another controller and have settled on Orange Squeeze which works perfectly, tried some of the others available too (both free and paid) but Orange just works for me ☺
Hi,
Just need case anyone is using Logitech Squeezebox Controller from their android phone or tablet to control their Pi, be aware that updating to Android 5.0.1 or above stops the app working.
I've now had to start using another controller and have settled on Orange Squeeze which works perfectly, tried some of the others available too (both free and paid) but Orange just works for me ☺
I'm not surprised, there's been no develpoment of either the Logitech Squeezebox Controller or Squeeze Commander andriod apps for some time. What about Squeeze Controller or Squeezer ?
Anyone using jivelite?
http://s3.postimg.org/5rmmzeyu7/jivelite.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5rmmzeyu7/)
Hi,
Just need case anyone is using Logitech Squeezebox Controller from their android phone or tablet to control their Pi, be aware that updating to Android 5.0.1 or above stops the app working.
I've now had to start using another controller and have settled on Orange Squeeze which works perfectly, tried some of the others available too (both free and paid) but Orange just works for me ☺
SqueezeCommander (v 0.9.6.4) is working flawlessly on my S4 with android 5.0.1...I'm running Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893 on a QNAP NAS, serving 1 SB Touch, 1 Boom, 1 SB3, and a piCorePlayer...:)
I wonder if later versions of LMS might be the problem, rather than Android itself...
I wonder if later versions of LMS might be the problem, rather than Android itself...
Hi,
was working fine with LMS 7.9 until Android updated, however I now prefer using Orange Squeeze anyway so not a problem. Have tried all the others and I much prefer how OS looks and how it works.
Mike.
Hi,
was working fine with LMS 7.9 until Android updated, however I now prefer using Orange Squeeze anyway so not a problem. Have tried all the others and I much prefer how OS looks and how it works.
Mike.
Hi Mike, good to know that there's a good alternative should things go tits up with SqueezeCommander in the future...I may give Orange Squeeze a bash at some point, it looks like a better bet for tablets with regard to art work etc...
But for now I'll stick with the old adage of 'If it aint broke...etc'...:)
P.S. What phone are you using Mike?...I'm considering moving to an HTC M8, from the S4, so this would be something to consider...
Hi Mike, good to know that there's a good alternative should things go tits up with SqueezeCommander in the future...I may give Orange Squeeze a bash at some point, it looks like a better bet for tablets with regard to art work etc...
But for now I'll stick with the old adage of 'If it aint broke...etc'...:)
P.S. What phone are you using Mike?...I'm considering moving to an HTC M8, from the S4, so this would be something to consider...
Hi,
I only moved to OS due to LSC not working but glad I did it's much better/prettier. I use a Oneplus One (https://oneplus.net/uk) Smart phone which runs Cyanogen ( Android 5.0.2 ). Have to say the Raspberry Pi and IQAudio DAC are superb, have been running mine for nearly a year now and all is good. It has very nearly had me selling my vinyl front end and vinyl lol.
If anyone is hesitating in trying one out... then don't wait any longer, it's a cheap and ultimately satisfying way ( cos you built it... sort of lol ) to stream online and HDD music. I have mine running music from my NAS drive, Spotify Premium, Tidal, TuneInRadio, and previously had Qobuz on it too.
Mike.
Hi Everyone
Does anyone have any info on my previous post (#791)?
Thanks
Hi Everyone
Does anyone have any info on my previous post (#791)?
Thanks
Terry I know nothing but I think I know someone who will. Try http://www.geb-dev.com/help/contact
Never seen it before but it looks a bit of a Win environment thing rather than Linux
All the best
tubehunter
26-04-2015, 17:03
Hi Everyone
Does anyone have any info on my previous post (#791)?
Thanks
No it's not going to work on the pi, but you could try one of the many client's that control a mpd server.
PMod if you have an iphone here: http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpod/
MPDroid if you have an Android device here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.namelessdev.mpdroid&hl=en_GB
or just use the browser of your choice.
Thank you Alan and Tubehunter - Looks like you are right on the money with your advice !!
While waiting for my Pi 2 to arrive, I thought it'd be cool if I can gather all the infos first to ease things for me later on.
My Qs for now are :
How do we connect the Pi2 to the Caiman2 via I2S ?
What cables should I use. Any settings to be configured?
I believe it should sound better than the USB ones shouldn't it?
You have a choice: Via USB without any additional boards or via TOSLINK/COAX using a HiFiBerry Digi+ board or similar seen: https://www.hifiberry.com/digiplus/
I2S is the connection used for the TopHat add-on DAC boards...the most popular being the IQaudio DAC+ board everyone is waiting for......
Not long now with luck!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDyPcWJUsAESl21.jpg:large
Well, the Paul Hynes linear PSU, for the RPi, is winging its way to me now (should arrive on Friday). This is what Paul had to say about it:
The SR3DR5 I have sent is a 5v 3A output power supply. It is purely to replace the external switching power supply normally used with the Pi. It is not a straight forward linear power supply as it uses two SR3 voltage regulators in series internally to provide the higher supply line rejection and higher reverse transfer noise suppression (suppression of noise generated by the Pi, when data processing is active, that can feed back through power lines onto the mains supply). Combined with the regulation for the 3v3 and 1v8 rails, still to be implemented, this should give you similar supply line rejection and performance to the SL1210 upgrade.
If it provides anything like the sonic improvement his regulator modules did with my Technics T/T, I'll be well happy! :cool:
Full report (with pics) to follow.
Marco.
Not long now with luck!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDyPcWJUsAESl21.jpg:large
Yes to quote IQaudios tweet of last night
@IQ_audio: New Pi-DAC+ boards being tested in advance of being made available... Not long now. Thanks for your patience. Gordon http://t.co/YNL8AXnbY7
How many AoSers tweet?
badsoden
30-04-2015, 10:41
DAC's are available now. Ordered mine plus case!!
Gordon@IQ
30-04-2015, 10:52
I have placed 250 Pi-DAC+ for sale (with various cases etc. AMP etc.) on www.tindie.com
There were over 450 people waiting.
Orders this week will ship sometime next week once they have all been tested.
I have ordered another 500 which will be with me in a few weeks time if you miss this batch.
Sorry for the delay everyone.
Gordon@iqaudio.com
Just put my order in for the IQaudio dac and case that are now back in stock !!. Think you better hurry though !!
Just put my order in for the IQaudio dac and case that are now back in stock !!. Think you better hurry though !!
+1
Just ordered mine - don't actually have a Raspberry Pi yet though - so over to Amazon next.....
cyclopse
30-04-2015, 11:36
My order also in for DAC and clear case. Been a long wait.
Ordered, now lets see what all the fuss is about! :D
Ordered mine too.
Will set it up as an internet radio.
My order also in for DAC and clear case. Been a long wait.
Interesting. I went for the matt black case - I don't really want to see the inside gubbins....
Just ordered the dac and case.
It will be good fun to have a common benchmark.
This batch of 250 units, will be gone pretty soon at this rate!
Sparker242
30-04-2015, 14:23
Ordered a Pi 2, IQAudio DAC and case.
I've been using a Pi Model B plus the Wolfson DAC as my main source for over a year now.
I've been very happy with the results but the Pi B is just a little underpowered.
The new Pi 2 should address that but it isn't physically compatible with the Wolfson DAC.
Any excuse for new toys!
Good job I'm on commission, eh Gordon? ;)
Only kidding!!
Marco.
Hi Everyone
I was just wondering what your experiences were like with controlling the volumio software through a tablet or phone (on my network via wifi) ? As i am having terrible trouble trying to navigate around it (really really slow), if i want to scroll to an album in the browse tab for example it is near on impossible as it just won't scroll up or down, well it does but painfully slow to the point where it is unusable. If i log on to volumio through the desktop pc which is connected to the internet via a ethernet cable (fibre optic) it is just brilliant. The RPi is connected through an ethernet cable too.
Any thoughts would be really welcome.
Thanks
The Black Adder
30-04-2015, 15:28
I wonder if this is now the 'spiritual home' for the IQ-audio DAC? :)
Ordered one btw... :)
Given the huge success of this thread, I'm seriously considering creating a separate area dedicated for discussions on the RPi/IQ-Audio DAC, such as we have now with the 'Techiepedia' (for the Technics SL-1200) and 'Beresford Banter' (for the Beresford DAC and other Beresford products).
This would go underneath the latter in the Digital Expressions area of the forum, where we can then collate all RPi/IQ-Audio DAC info and discussion thereof, for ease of reference.
What's the view on that, folks? :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
30-04-2015, 15:40
AYE! - sez I. :)
julesd68
30-04-2015, 15:42
Just ordered the DAC too ...
Already got a wooden case from modmipi.com so now just the small matter of the Pi itself ... :)
montesquieu
30-04-2015, 16:03
Well ever the contrarian I just kicked off a RPi project using not the IQ Audio DAC, but the HifiBerry Digi+board, which outputs SPDIF (and Toslink though that's not really of interest) so I can use it with the Audio Note DAC.
I've just started a separate thread on that build in Digital Expressions but quite a bit of the info from here will be relevant.
Some brave soul might want to think about pulling together an FAQ though as 84 pages (and growing) is hard to pan the nuggets out of.
Given the huge success of this thread, I'm seriously considering creating a separate area dedicated for discussions on the RPi/IQ-Audio DAC, such as we have now with the 'Techiepedia' (for the Technics SL-1200) and 'Beresford Banter' (for the Beresford DAC and other Beresford products).
This would go underneath the latter in the Digital Expressions area of the forum, where we can then collate all RPi/IQ-Audio DAC info and discussion thereof, for ease of reference.
What's the view on that, folks? :)
Marco.
You said you were going to do this weeks ago when I attempted to post on the Pi topic and Volumio.
Perhaps you have been a bit excited and forgotten.
Makes a lot of sense if people have separate threads according to topic, versions and types of software for example.
Awaiting patiently
Perhaps you have been a bit excited and forgotten.
No, I've been otherwise occupied. It's called 'having a life'! ;)
Plus, I wanted to make sure that it's what members wanted, not just me.
Makes a lot of sense if people have separate threads according to topic, versions and types of software for example.
Good, so that's another vote 'for'. If we get plenty more, then it'll happen. However, any new area will need to be kept ACTIVE (and that means new posts made there every day), as otherwise it's a no-no.
Marco.
I'm not working next week.
If anyone fancies pitching the Pi-Q up against a Lampizator level 7 for interests sake, come round by all means. I'd like to hear what it can do versus a technically dodgy valve based piece of audiophile madness.
I do good coffee:) System should entertain you too.
Like a lamb (with the Lampi being the lamb?) to the slaughter maybe...;)
I'm sure the Pi-Q will do well by all accounts.
Anyway the offer is there to anyone with some spare time.
Hi Everyone
I was just wondering what your experiences were like with controlling the volumio software through a tablet or phone (on my network via wifi) ? As i am having terrible trouble trying to navigate around it (really really slow), if i want to scroll to an album in the browse tab for example it is near on impossible as it just won't scroll up or down, well it does but painfully slow to the point where it is unusable. If i log on to volumio through the desktop pc which is connected to the internet via a ethernet cable (fibre optic) it is just brilliant. The RPi is connected through an ethernet cable too.
Any thoughts would be really welcome.
Thanks
Terry, two things it could be, poor WiFi connection….try moving WiFi channel on your home router or the Browser/Tablet you are using is slow. As it is OK via the laptop (wired) I'd check out your WiFi first...
cyclopse
30-04-2015, 17:07
Like a lamb (with the Lampi being the lamb?) to the slaughter maybe...;)
I'm sure the Pi-Q will do well by all accounts.
Anyway the offer is there to anyone with some spare time.
Hi Justin,
Yes I am close to you. Pi DAC on order and should be here next week. Do we call this a Rasberry bake off?
Thanks
Steve
Maybe a Pi-Q bake off. Dat soundz vaguely cleva.
Honestly though cool. On a mobile will PM you later.
Gloss black case for me, to match my shiny acrylic amps you see;)
Seriously looking forward to getting this project up and running. I'm intending to make mine WiFi. I have it on good authority this is the dongle to use....
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-EW-7811UN-150Mbps-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003MTTJOY
Make sure your little get together is reported in the Community Network! And no peeking in anyone's underwear drawer ;)
Marco.
Make sure your little get together is reported in the Community Network! And no peeking in anyone's underwear drawer ;)
Marco.
Hm... might be a Lampi 7 going cheap soon. What can I get for it do you wonder? £50? £40?:)
Sure do I need to do videos for 3rd party validation?
Only if they don't feature donkeys or any other farmyard animals.
Marco.
That foils that plan then:(
Hi Guys
Regarding my post above #831 if anyone comes across this problem,here is a heads up if it happens to you,i just installed the firefox browser on my phone and it now goes at full steam ahead.
Just noticed your reply NRG - Thanks !!
Bourneendboy
30-04-2015, 18:18
Wanting something as simple as possible, what's best to go for, Volumio or Rune Audio?
tubehunter
30-04-2015, 18:59
Prior to my last post regarding power supplies for the Pi.
I have just put this together and sound quality has improved over the stock smps.
There seems a more natural relaxed quality to the sound so probably worth doing, for a cost of around £30.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg.html)
LM350 regulators were used instead of the LM317's for their higher current rating.
cyclopse
30-04-2015, 19:36
Did you have to wait very long Marco from ordering your Paul Hynes supply to delivery tomorrow?
Thanks
Steve
Hi Stephen,
Not at all. It actually arrived this morning, but I was busy today and have only just had a chance to hook it up.
Initial impressions are very positive indeed, but I shall refrain from commenting further until the PSU has warmed up/run-in properly and I've got a proper handle on what it's doing, but I think I can safely say that this baby has raised the bar quite significantly :)
More later!
Marco.
Prior to my last post regarding power supplies for the Pi.
I have just put this together and sound quality has improved over the stock smps.
There seems a more natural relaxed quality to the sound so probably worth doing, for a cost of around £30.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg.html)
That's really interesting, Dunc. Ian's going to send you a text, I think, but if you're up for a sesh tomorrow, I'm bringing the Paul Hynes PSU over to his, so we can do some comparisons :)
Marco.
Prior to my last post regarding power supplies for the Pi.
I have just put this together and sound quality has improved over the stock smps.
There seems a more natural relaxed quality to the sound so probably worth doing, for a cost of around £30.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg.html)
How hot are those LM317 getting? You may find dropping the voltage a bit helps by using a 9v Tx...
tubehunter
30-04-2015, 22:34
Marco I'll see u tomorrow....
Regarding the regulators they are bolted to the floor of my aluminium PiPre case.
Don't even get warm.
I believe a tracking preregulator likes a bit of headroom with voltage.
The Pi with Iqaudio pidac+ attached only consumes 330mA's when playing, with a Usb stick inserted this goes up to 412mA's.
Hang a couple of hard drives off this and it's going to increase considerably.
Look forward to it, mate. Should be an interesting one :)
Marco.
tubehunter
01-05-2015, 07:41
I'll also bring a couple SD cards with Runeaudio, Moode and Volumio pre configured so we can compare them.
Cool. Should I also bring my Pi, then, and if I prefer Moode (which I think you posted a screenshot of before), you can install that instead on my Pi? :)
Marco.
tubehunter
01-05-2015, 08:21
yes if you want.
I do like having the album art:)
Coolio. That's a plan, then :)
Marco.
Frankyc2003
01-05-2015, 09:16
Prior to my last post regarding power supplies for the Pi.
I have just put this together and sound quality has improved over the stock smps.
There seems a more natural relaxed quality to the sound so probably worth doing, for a cost of around £30.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t350/halx00/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/halx00/media/preregulator_zpsjzkhqbpp.jpg.html)
LM350 regulators were used instead of the LM317's for their higher current rating.
Hi Duncan,
That's really interesting. I wouldn't mind giving that a go TBH. Would you mind posting pics of the finished unit and its innards? That would be great. Ta
Cool. Should I also bring my Pi, then, and if I prefer Moode (which I think you posted a screenshot of before), you can install that instead on my Pi? :)
Marco.
Unless it's a tiny OS it will need to stay on the SD card and boot from that. Picoreplayer is only one I've found small enough to fit in the Pi's RAM. Take a SD card Marco and get it written on that.
montesquieu
02-05-2015, 11:27
Quick plea for help as I'm struggling a bit. I have all my hardware built up (R Pi, Digi+ board, NAS running), and the software downloaded to my Mac ready to go, but need some technical help to:
1) flash a disk image to my SD card so the R Pi can use it to boot up (I got quite far with this but got scared I'd flash over the Mac hard drive, do didn't click the final button)
2) get the R Pi connecting to my BT wireless hub and pointing at the NAS (according to Duncan, Volumio has its own music server app, no need to run anything on the NAS - just point to a folder - but I have no suitable display, nothing in the house is HDMI, and I'm not really up on command lines these days)
3) get the controller app on my iPad pointing at the R Pi - though I can probably just about manage this bit.
Anyone in local to Sandhurst/Camberley (S/E Berks, N Hant, west Surrey) able to help out over the bank hol?
Tom which app did you use to "nearly flash" the SD card?
1) Pi Filler 1.3 http://ivanx.com/raspberrypi/ is simple to use.
2) I had to use pUtty on Windows for this to do it headless not sure what the best bet is on Mac as I'm using network plugs to connect to the Pi. I'll search later but not sure if there is any way other than SSH if you have no TV with HDMI.
3) Typing "Volumio.local" in your Safari browser on the iPad will find the volumio on the Pi for you (no exclamation marks).
Hope this helps.....
montesquieu
02-05-2015, 14:51
Tom which app did you use to "nearly flash" the SD card?
1) Pi Filler 1.3 http://ivanx.com/raspberrypi/ is simple to use.
2) I had to use pUtty on Windows for this to do it headless not sure what the best bet is on Mac as I'm using network plugs to connect to the Pi. I'll search later but not sure if there is any way other than SSH if you have no TV with HDMI.
3) Typing "Volumio.local" in your Safari browser on the iPad will find the volumio on the Pi for you (no exclamation marks).
Hope this helps.....
Tried Pi filler but it keeps giving me error messages - 'failed to write image to disk'. (Though it stil shows an empty progress bar 'Writing SD-card ... this might take a long time' which never moves no matter how long you leave it. The only option is to click quit and the message says 'permission denied'
The image I have loaded on the Mac that I'm trying to flash is Volumio1.55PI.img
Having said that I haven't a clue what to do after that to get into a GUI, I assume I have to find some way to get the R Pi to access the network (by adding the network password) before I can see it on the browser? I tried the IP sniffer app on that link but it didn't find anything (I guess that may change once the RPi has an operating system to boot up with, after the SD card is inserted!). So until I can get a disk image I seem to be stuffed.
Tried Pi filler but it keeps giving me error messages - 'failed to write image to disk'. (Though it stil shows an empty progress bar 'Writing SD-card ... this might take a long time' which never moves no matter how long you leave it. The only option is to click quit and the message says 'permission denied'
The image I have loaded on the Mac that I'm trying to flash is Volumio1.55PI.img
Having said that I haven't a clue what to do after that to get into a GUI, I assume I have to find some way to get the R Pi to access the network (by adding the network password) before I can see it on the browser? I tried the IP sniffer app on that link but it didn't find anything (I guess that may change once the RPi has an operating system to boot up with, after the SD card is inserted!). So until I can get a disk image I seem to be stuffed.
Hi, go to
https://volumio.org/get-started, scroll down to "Flash It", then select Mac OS. There you will find instructions on how to flash the Volumio image on a Mac. You could also use the PiWriter app. There is a link to it on that same page. hope this helps.
Greetings
Ru
PiWriter link here (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/piwriter/PiWriter-1.x/PiWriter-1.0.3-Universal.dmg?r=&ts=1430579958&use_mirror=heanet)
Tried Pi filler but it keeps giving me error messages - 'failed to write image to disk'. (Though it stil shows an empty progress bar 'Writing SD-card ... this might take a long time' which never moves no matter how long you leave it. The only option is to click quit and the message says 'permission denied'
The image I have loaded on the Mac that I'm trying to flash is Volumio1.55PI.img
Having said that I haven't a clue what to do after that to get into a GUI, I assume I have to find some way to get the R Pi to access the network (by adding the network password) before I can see it on the browser? I tried the IP sniffer app on that link but it didn't find anything (I guess that may change once the RPi has an operating system to boot up with, after the SD card is inserted!). So until I can get a disk image I seem to be stuffed.
Just to point out that after successfully flashing your sd-card,the https://volumio.org/get-started page clearly states your RPi must be connected to your router via an ethernet cable before you can configure the use of wireless USB dongle. Configuration is via web brower.
and to add
the address of the volumio box by default is
http://volumio.local
montesquieu
02-05-2015, 15:52
Hi, go to
https://volumio.org/get-started, scroll down to "Flash It", then select Mac OS. There you will find instructions on how to flash the Volumio image on a Mac. You could also use the PiWriter app. There is a link to it on that same page. hope this helps.
Greetings
Ru
PiWriter link here (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/piwriter/PiWriter-1.x/PiWriter-1.0.3-Universal.dmg?r=&ts=1430579958&use_mirror=heanet)
Progress - I flashed the SD card.:)
Now I'm trying to get in and set up the R Pi/Volumio. Getting nothing from the IP finder app. I have a USB cable and an ethernet cable, but don't know how to get in from there. Typing volumio.local isn't getting me anywhere.
Progress - I flashed the SD card.:)
Now I'm trying to get in and set up the R Pi/Volumio. Getting nothing from the IP finder app. I have a USB cable and an ethernet cable, but don't know how to get in from there. Typing volumio.local isn't getting me anywhere.
Assuming you've done things in this order:
Insert the SD Card into the Device
Plug the Ethernet Cable
Connect any other device you may want to use (USB HUB, Wi-Fi Dongle, etc.)
Power the device on
Then did you see both the power LED light up, and then the second flashing activity LED?
The Rpi should be visible on your network, but only if your router is set to dish out IP addresses to computers via DHCP. You should be able to see the IP allocated to your Rpi by connecting to your router's admin pages. If RPi's address, e.g. 192.168.1.20, then just point browser for example to http://192.168.1.20
If no go, then I'd suggest you ensure your router is set to use DHCP, turn the Rpi power off. Now it's important to reflash the SD card as it may have been corrupted after pulling the plug in the RPi without a proper shutdown. Now go through the setup again.
montesquieu
02-05-2015, 16:50
Assuming you've done things in this order:
Insert the SD Card into the Device
Plug the Ethernet Cable
Connect any other device you may want to use (USB HUB, Wi-Fi Dongle, etc.)
Power the device on
Then did you see both the power LED light up, and then the second flashing activity LED?
The Rpi should be visible on your network, but only if your router is set to dish out IP addresses to computers via DHCP. You should be able to see the IP allocated to your Rpi by connecting to your router's admin pages. If RPi's address, e.g. 192.168.1.20, then just point browser for example to http://192.168.1.20
If no go, then I'd suggest you ensure your router is set to use DHCP, turn the Rpi power off. Now it's important to reflash the SD card as it may have been corrupted after pulling the plug in the RPi without a proper shutdown. Now go through the setup again.
Thanks for all this. The network environment is a wee bit complicated - BT Home Hub 5 which has wifi enabled on 2.5 and 5 ghz (two separate SSIDs) plus an ethernet connection to a BT 500 powerline wifi extender - the NAS is connected via ethernet to this and it also provides a wifi boost in the living room where the hifi is as it's a long way from the phone/broadband socket in the wife's study.
As-is, plugging to the second ethernet socket on the extender, or on any of the three remaining ethernet sockets, isn't resulting in anything showing up in the router tables and no result with volumio.local. Power lights are coming on (I'm providing power from the laptop via USB to enable me to move around).
I'll strip everything off apart from the orignal router with just one ethernet cable out to see if that helps. Will also flash again, didn't realise they were so sensitive. I have a wifi dongle but no point in fitting that I guess till I can see the thing on a wired connection.
.. Power lights are coming on (I'm providing power from the laptop via USB to enable me to move around).
I'll strip everything off apart from the orignal router with just one ethernet cable out to see if that helps. Will also flash again, didn't realise they were so sensitive. I have a wifi dongle but no point in fitting that I guess till I can see the thing on a wired connection.
I wonder if you have enough juice to the RPi in that case. Actually, is this even safe? I would have thought the the current limit of your lapto port could be exceeded, especially if you plug the USB wireless dongle into the RPi. A decent RPi supply should be 5v 2a.
The rpi is like any other computer, it's not good just to pull the plug on it. Once you're up and running, you need to get into the habit of "halting" the RPi via the web browser and then waiting 30 secs before switching the power off.
tubehunter
02-05-2015, 17:27
I have measured my Raspberry Pi 2 with the IQAudio PiDac+ fitted and it consumes 330 mA.
This is with no other peripherals attached eg. usb devices or HDMI
montesquieu
02-05-2015, 18:57
I wonder if you have enough juice to the RPi in that case. Actually, is this even safe? I would have thought the the current limit of your lapto port could be exceeded, especially if you plug the USB wireless dongle into the RPi. A decent RPi supply should be 5v 2a.
The rpi is like any other computer, it's not good just to pull the plug on it. Once you're up and running, you need to get into the habit of "halting" the RPi via the web browser and then waiting 30 secs before switching the power off.
Thanks this got me checking, the SD card reader won't light up! (No wonder it's not booting). I switched to the 5v PSU I bought but it's still not lighting up - looked at it - 0.3A. Need a better PSU. The board lights come on but clearly not enough juice to do anything else. Over to Maplins tomorrow!
Thanks this got me checking, the SD card reader won't light up! (No wonder it's not booting). I switched to the 5v PSU I bought but it's still not lighting up - looked at it - 0.3A. Need a better PSU. The board lights come on but clearly not enough juice to do anything else. Over to Maplins tomorrow!
I think Krisbee is right... it needs a leat 5v / 2A. If you have an iphone / android phone charger just use that. The "link" LED should light up if there is enough juice.
PS any USB charger with 2 or more Amps should do.
The Black Adder
03-05-2015, 07:25
just wondering... anyone know when the IQ DAC+ boards will be shipped/delivered?
just wondering... anyone know when the IQ DAC+ boards will be shipped/delivered?
We do. IQaudio tweets and the IQaudio/Tindie websites say "next week" which is now this week.
@IQ_audio: Pi-DAC+, Pi-AMP+, cases & power bricks back in stock on @tindie -demand is greater than stock at this time so be quick. Will ship next week.
IQaudio.com Pi-DAC+ available - will start to ship next week
The Black Adder
03-05-2015, 07:51
Cool! thanks, Alan.
I ordered the black case at the same time as the DAC so should be super!
Currenly recieved from Amazon:
RPi 2
Standard RPi PSU (the white one)
8GB Noobs Mini SD
802.11n Wifi Dongle
:)
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 15:47
I think Krisbee is right... it needs a leat 5v / 2A. If you have an iphone / android phone charger just use that. The "link" LED should light up if there is enough juice.
PS any USB charger with 2 or more Amps should do.
Well all this makes me feel like a right numpty.
Got the new PSU (2.4a) from Maplins. Immediately stuff starts to happen.
Still having major probs with Volumio but it all has at least fired up. Volumio.local works and I can get into a settings page. Ethernet - fine. Wifi - fine. However it won't point to the NAS just goes into a 'connecting' loop that lasts for ages, and eventually 'page not available' comes up.
Switched to Rune Audio and got MUCH further - got as far as most things seemingly working, recognised by MPad on the iPad mini, downloaded the library etc (which is pretty large, about 200 CDs worth downloaded from my Amazon accountin MP3, plus about the same size again in FLAC files though many fewer files of course). But damned if I could make MPad actually play anything - constantly 'paused'.
Back to Volumio again and same probs as before.
It's funny if you go back to the early 80s there was all sorts of cheap/free software about that 'sort of' worked if you coaxed it and faddled with it. The the corporate world got its act together and everything just worked though much more expensive of course. Seems we've had to reinvent the old days just for the hell of it. I had more patience back then though.
Well all this makes me feel like a right numpty.
<snip>
It's funny if you go back to the early 80s there was all sorts of cheap/free software about that 'sort of' worked if you coaxed it and faddled with it. The the corporate world got its act together and everything just worked though much more expensive of course. Seems we've had to reinvent the old days just for the hell of it. I had more patience back then though.
Have you considered using Volumio/Rune with the web interface until they are working faultlessly. Then if MPaD is your preference switching to that? Both players were built/designed to be setup that way. I use the web screens and do not have the problems you are experiencing. I won't say it was all effortless/easy but once I had read the setup notes for each (twice) it started to fall into place what I wasn't doing.
ATB
Well all this makes me feel like a right numpty.
Got the new PSU (2.4a) from Maplins. Immediately stuff starts to happen.
Still having major probs with Volumio but it all has at least fired up. Volumio.local works and I can get into a settings page. Ethernet - fine. Wifi - fine. However it won't point to the NAS just goes into a 'connecting' loop that lasts for ages, and eventually 'page not available' comes up.
Switched to Rune Audio and got MUCH further - got as far as most things seemingly working, recognised by MPad on the iPad mini, downloaded the library etc (which is pretty large, about 200 CDs worth downloaded from my Amazon accountin MP3, plus about the same size again in FLAC files though many fewer files of course). But damned if I could make MPad actually play anything - constantly 'paused'.
Back to Volumio again and same probs as before.
It's funny if you go back to the early 80s there was all sorts of cheap/free software about that 'sort of' worked if you coaxed it and faddled with it. The the corporate world got its act together and everything just worked though much more expensive of course. Seems we've had to reinvent the old days just for the hell of it. I had more patience back then though.
To avoid going nuts, how about sticking some sounds on a a usb stick. Insert in RPi usb port, and configure volumio to use USB as source.
In the meantime, presumingly you had a wifi only connection tested as working between your laptop and PI, but how do you know the PI could connect to your NAS? Need a bit of command line work to connect to PI via SSH, and then ping your NAS from the PI to ensure PI and NAS can talk to one another. Or, if poss ping PI from your NAS.
Once you're sure PI and NAS are making contact, double check how file shares on NAS has been set up and make sure correct details for the share are entered on the appropriate Volumio webpage.
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 18:27
To avoid going nuts, how about sticking some sounds on a a usb stick. Insert in RPi usb port, and configure volumio to use USB as source.
In the meantime, presumingly you had a wifi only connection tested as working between your laptop and PI, but how do you know the PI could connect to your NAS? Need a bit of command line work to connect to PI via SSH, and then ping your NAS from the PI to ensure PI and NAS can talk to one another. Or, if poss ping PI from your NAS.
Once you're sure PI and NAS are making contact, double check how file shares on NAS has been set up and make sure correct details for the share are entered on the appropriate Volumio webpage.
Now I have 'playing' on Runeaudio (minutes ticking off) controllable from the web interfect (clunky!) but no sound on Hifiberry SPIDF, RPi audio socket, or to my USB input on the DAC.
It's seeing the NAS fine as it mounted and built the database OK via wifi on both the web client and the iPad app. Just no sound!!! So near and yet so far ....
What is set as Audio Output in Menu | MPD Configuration | Audio Output Interface? And Volume Control on the same page?
You may wish to try changing these if you are an adventurous/inquisitive sort.
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 19:33
What is set as Audio Output in Menu | MPD Configuration | Audio Output Interface? And Volume Control on the same page?
You may wish to try changing these if you are an adventurous/inquisitive sort.
I have volume control disabled. The only option I'm getting is R Pi analog or HDMI output, no options for USB (which my DAC can handle) or for the Digi+ board (which has two outputs, SPDIF and toslink - I don;t have toslink input anyway).
Close to giving up now. Been at this for 2 days solid!
EDIT: got it to give me analog out! It's making sound!
Suspect the issue is with the Hifiberry Digi+ board
I have volume control disabled. The only option I'm getting is R Pi analog or HDMI output, no options for USB (which my DAC can handle) or for the Digi+ board (which has two outputs, SPDIF and toslink - I don;t have toslink input anyway).
Close to giving up now. Been at this for 2 days solid!
Doesn't that suggest something to you? If you need to have your thoughts stimulated mine shows 3 options, HDMI Out, Analogue Out and DAC USB DAC. I am using a USB DAC.
Have you explored the command line ALSAMIXER which allows you to see and select the OUTPUT device at the OS level?
These are hints to give you something to look at and play with
Hi Tom,
Hope you solve it soon! If you do need more assistance, I'm sure that Martin T would be able to help, over on TAS (as he's done both the Pi and the Hi-fi Berry thing): http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project?page=24&scrollTo=35573
:)
Marco.
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 20:17
Doesn't that suggest something to you? If you need to have your thoughts stimulated mine shows 3 options, HDMI Out, Analogue Out and DAC USB DAC. I am using a USB DAC.
Have you explored the command line ALSAMIXER which allows you to see and select the OUTPUT device at the OS level?
These are hints to give you something to look at and play with
Yes I'm a total numpty. No drivers in the standard Volumio board for the Digi+. I just got a copy of Raspabian with the drivers on and am about to try it.
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 20:23
Hi Tom,
Hope you solve it soon! If you do need more assistance, I'm sure that Martin T would be able to help, over on TAS (as he's done both the Pi and the Hi-fi Berry thing): http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project?page=24&scrollTo=35573
:)
Marco.
Cheers Marco, yes I know Martin he's only down the road from me in Basingrad and has been to mine a couple of times.
Yep, I know. So if all else fails, contact Martin and maybe arrange a sesh and I'm sure that anything you haven't resolved will be resolved :)
Marco.
Yes I'm a total numpty. No drivers in the standard Volumio board for the Digi+. I just got a copy of Raspabian with the drivers on and am about to try it.
Sorry, but that's just not true. You need to activate the i2s driver and reboot. Look again at Volumio interface.
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 22:27
Sorry, but that's just not true. You need to activate the i2s driver and reboot. Look again at Volumio interface.
Activated it but (as before with Volumio) it's hanging up now when I try to link in the NAS. Aaarrgggg! That's why I switched to Rune Audio previously.
Activated it but (as before with Volumio) it's hanging up now when I try to link in the NAS. Aaarrgggg! That's why I switched to Rune Audio previously.
Trying to link to the NAS will require the right settings for several things in the Add New Mount section
A Name without spaces or none alpha characters
FileShare Protocol
IP Address
Remote directory
Guest Access
or UserName/password
Are you comfortable with what you have entered in these because you make absolutely no comment on any of them?
For someone who declares themselves a numpty those are quite techy things to enter and if any are wrong it will sit and not connect
Does this help http://www.runeaudio.com/forum/can-t-create-a-nfs-mount-t476.html ?
montesquieu
03-05-2015, 23:41
Trying to link to the NAS will require the right settings for several things in the Add New Mount section
A Name without spaces or none alpha characters
FileShare Protocol
IP Address
Remote directory
Guest Access
or UserName/password
Are you comfortable with what you have entered in these because you make absolutely no comment on any of them?
For someone who declares themselves a numpty those are quite techy things to enter and if any are wrong it will sit and not connect
Well I do have an Unix administrator's certificate in the drawer from the early 80s and I still work for a big IT company, but very much in a business role this past 15 years or so (original degree is in music) ... I would be hopeless with any command line stuff these days, but by and large can cope with settings on a web page (and obviously, I'm aware precision is key on things like upper/lower case etc) ... this step went fine with Rune Audio so there's obviously something in what I'm doing with Volumio. Unless it's just taking a long time to map 100gb of data on the NAS. Wifi is working fine now but until I have a library available to play from I can't get any further.
The NAS offers an NFS option and so does Volumio I might enable that and see how it goes. I've tried both guest access (no username/password) and admin with password. IP address of the NAS is from the router page. All this worked fine with Rune Audio (to the point of getting sound out of the analog socket), except I can't locale a disk image compatible with the Hifiberry Digi+ board and also it wasn't working too well with MPad. (Never got that far with Volumio.
Well I do have an Unix administrator's certificate in the drawer from the early 80s and I still work for a big IT company, but very much in a business role this past 15 years or so (original degree is in music) ... I would be hopeless with any command line stuff these days, but by and large can cope with settings on a web page (and obviously, I'm aware precision is key on things like upper/lower case etc) ... this step went fine with Rune Audio so there's obviously something in what I'm doing with Volumio. Unless it's just taking a long time to map 100gb of data on the NAS. Wifi is working fine now but until I have a library available to play from I can't get any further.
The NAS offers an NFS option and so does Volumio I might enable that and see how it goes. I've tried both guest access (no username/password) and admin with password. IP address of the NAS is from the router page. All this worked fine with Rune Audio (to the point of getting sound out of the analog socket), except I can't locale a disk image compatible with the Hifiberry Digi+ board and also it wasn't working too well with MPad. (Never got that far with Volumio.
Monte
A similar path to myself, without the pieces of paper and still technical rather than business. I don't use a NAS myself but tried to get Volumio to see my MacBooks share I had created. Ended up using guest access and it was slow to connect. It did connect sometimes. That is with a Pi B not a Pi2 B. I gave up and am using a big USB drive both with Rune (which I currently prefer) and Volumio. Haven't tried Rune doing the Mac share.
One should use the web way rather than command line I believe.
Another day to have a flash of inspiration.
ATB
Well I do have an Unix administrator's certificate in the drawer from the early 80s and I still work for a big IT company, but very much in a business role this past 15 years or so (original degree is in music) ... I would be hopeless with any command line stuff these days, but by and large can cope with settings on a web page (and obviously, I'm aware precision is key on things like upper/lower case etc) ... this step went fine with Rune Audio so there's obviously something in what I'm doing with Volumio. Unless it's just taking a long time to map 100gb of data on the NAS. Wifi is working fine now but until I have a library available to play from I can't get any further.
The NAS offers an NFS option and so does Volumio I might enable that and see how it goes. I've tried both guest access (no username/password) and admin with password. IP address of the NAS is from the router page. All this worked fine with Rune Audio (to the point of getting sound out of the analog socket), except I can't locale a disk image compatible with the Hifiberry Digi+ board and also it wasn't working too well with MPad. (Never got that far with Volumio.
Monte,
Is this a correct summary for you?
1 Volumio now shows the hifiberry DIGI+ as a selectable sound device (possibly its appears as sndhifiberry) but you can't get Voulmio to mount your NAS share.
2. Runeaudio mounts your NAS share, but you haven't, or cannot, activate your hifiberry DIGI+ i2s sound card.
As you can see from my sig, I have had a RPiB+/HifiDigi+ combo in use for a few months now. When I tested Volumio and Rune, I did'nt have your problems, but I was using a wired connection and being familiar with Linux was able to check things via the command line.
If you currently have Runeaudio loaded on your SD card, I would check if you've gone through the settings, correctly selecting any i2s options. See : http://www.runeaudio.com/documentation/runeui/settings/ and then go back to the MPD config page on Rune.
If you still fail to get this working on Runeaudio, you'll have to tackle the mount problem on Volumio. You can safely do some checks at the command line on Volumio to help debug the situation, but not alter settings, as Alan warned, because Volumio maintains an internal database of configuration settings.
One common point of error when entering info for a Windows share on Volumio is having a leading slash in the "remote directory name". If your NAS share is for example \\192.168.1.75\Public\Music, then you'd enter Public/Music as the remote directory.
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 09:16
ok, got the rpi2, sd card (with noobs pre installed), psu, wifi dongle and my HDD full of toonz... can I do any initial set-up up bits now or do have to wait for the IQDac?
The NAS offers an NFS option and so does Volumio I might enable that and see how it goes. I've tried both guest access (no username/password) and admin with password. IP address of the NAS is from the router page. All this worked fine with Rune Audio (to the point of getting sound out of the analog socket), except I can't locale a disk image compatible with the Hifiberry Digi+ board and also it wasn't working too well with MPad. (Never got that far with Volumio.
In Rune I have just tried to mount my MacBook and got the error : mount error(22): Invalid argument Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
Searching Rune Forum it seems I am not alone.
Do you get an Error message from Volumio you can investigate??
How about copying all mount settings from Rune (that does mount) and replicate in Volumio
ok, got the rpi2, sd card (with noobs pre installed), psu, wifi dongle and my HDD full of toonz... can I do any initial set-up up bits now or do have to wait for the IQDac?
If you intend to use Volumio, you can set it up now as is, configure it to use for example an external USB DAC, or RPi built-in audio and your USB HDD as source of audio files. When the IQaudio DAC arrives, power down correctly, rebuild device, power on and re-configure Volumio to use i2s DAC etc.
ok, got the rpi2, sd card (with noobs pre installed), psu, wifi dongle and my HDD full of toonz... can I do any initial set-up up bits now or do have to wait for the IQDac?
Err if you want to hear music it is best to wait untill you have a DAC either IQdac or one connected via USB. No DAC no sound. You will also need a player i.e. Volumio, RuneAudio, Moode etc of your choosing.
I really think this will be a challenge for many AoS members who want what rPi offers but don't know how to make it work (or fix it when it doesn't).
The guy who was thinking he can sell/supply preconfigured Rpis may not have thought it through.
A warning to the curious. I work with computers and have found myself stretched. If you don't ever do more than turn your computer on and cry for help when it goes wrong it is best you think twice about what Marco is enthusing about. It may not be for you
cyclopse
04-05-2015, 10:12
Err if you want to hear music it is best to wait untill you have a DAC either IQdac or one connected via USB. No DAC no sound. You will also need a player i.e. Volumio, RuneAudio, Moode etc of your choosing.
I really think this will be a challenge for many AoS members who want what rPi offers but don't know how to make it work (or fix it when it doesn't).
The guy who was thinking he can sell/supply preconfigured Rpis may not have thought it through.
A warning to the curious. I work with computers and have found myself stretched. If you don't ever do more than turn your computer on and cry for help when it goes wrong it is best you think twice about what Marco is enthusing about. It may not be for you
I have sound working through the headphone jack. This is Rasberry Pi, Volumio and no add on DAC. I echo what Alan says. Four hours in set up but got there in the end. Couldn't connect to NFS server. It was the / that did it for me.
Regards
Steve
I have sound working through the headphone jack. This is Rasberry Pi, Volumio and no add on DAC. I echo what Alan says. Four hours in set up but got there in the end. Couldn't connect to NFS server. It was the / that did it for me.
Regards
Steve
This reference was qouted near the beginning of the thread:
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project
This section shows an example of how to enter windows share data on the Volumio webUI:
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project?page=1&scrollTo=11417
Scroll down to NAS mounts. Note there is no leading "/" character in the Remote directory name.
I'd say there is a good case to create a sticky in this forum re: advice/tips on RPi+Volumio+DAC setup.
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 10:28
Err if you want to hear music it is best to wait untill you have a DAC either IQdac or one connected via USB. No DAC no sound. You will also need a player i.e. Volumio, RuneAudio, Moode etc of your choosing.
I really think this will be a challenge for many AoS members who want what rPi offers but don't know how to make it work (or fix it when it doesn't).
The guy who was thinking he can sell/supply preconfigured Rpis may not have thought it through.
A warning to the curious. I work with computers and have found myself stretched. If you don't ever do more than turn your computer on and cry for help when it goes wrong it is best you think twice about what Marco is enthusing about. It may not be for you
lol... yes I know that.
As I wondered in my post, can do any initial set-up with the base board at all?
If you don't ever do more than turn your computer on and cry for help when it goes wrong it is best you think twice about what Marco is enthusing about. It may not be for you
Indeed, but do bear in mind that what I'm "enthusing" about is simply its sound quality (which given the price is phenomenal), as this is after all a hi-fi forum. Plus, there is plenty of help available here now (and elsewhere on other forums) to collectively assist newbies and the 'technically challenged' to overcome most problems.
Therefore, all in all, considering the huge sonic and musical benefits that can be had, I don't think there's any good reason for folk to be scared of 'dipping their toes into the Pi pool'. With a wee bit of effort, you will be amply rewarded!
:exactly:
Marco.
Btw, Alan, on another issue, regarding Spotify, I carried out a fresh install of Volumio and have now managed to get it to appear on the 'Browse' menu, along with my NAS and Webradio.
However, although Spotify is listed, it is still 'inactive', as I can't actually use it to access my Spotify account. How did you manage to get Spotify to work, with Volumio, once you got it to appear in the 'Browse' menu? :)
Marco.
anthonyTD
04-05-2015, 11:15
I now have my version in my system, sounding very good, i am currently using it wireless as i dont have a wired connection any where near my system, since its only sending the commands from my laptop through the router, and not the music information [which is stored either on memory sticks, or hard drive connected directly to my pi] then i cant see why it matters. I am sure someone will be along to correct me if i am wrong on this.:D
A...
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 11:18
I now have my version in my system, sounding very good, i am currently using it wireless as i dont have a wired connection any where near my system, since its only sending the commands from my laptop through the router, and not the music information [which is stored either on memory sticks, or hard drive connected directly to my pi] then i cant see why it matters. I am sure someone will be along to correct me if i am wrong on this.:D
A...
That's exactly what I'm wanting to do, Anthony. Good to hear it's working well.
I really think this will be a challenge for many AoS members who want what rPi offers but don't know how to make it work (or fix it when it doesn't).
Count me among the trepidatious ....
I am waiting for my Pi recipe ingredients to arrive but getting quite anxious reading the reports on here of folks struggling. There seem to be particular problems with Mac set up (which is what I have)
Being a Mac user for a couple of decades I'm used to things not being straightforward with new kit although I must say most of the struggles were in the distant past.
Anyone know of a good walk through that is NOT Windows based ??
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 11:49
This is what I'm seeing, Mike.
The problems that people are facing with the initial setup I think is putting some people off and confusing the hell out of others. But with something like this I'm afraid it's simply the nature of the beast and you have to be in it to win it.
As for mac users, I'm not a mac user for the exact reason you state, there is generally another layer of setup woe with mac stuff, always has been. Sometimes it's fine but more often than not macs are generally that little bit more tricky. For me I prefer ease of function over style.
Count me among the trepidatious ....
I am waiting for my Pi recipe ingredients to arrive but getting quite anxious reading the reports on here of folks struggling. There seem to be particular problems with Mac set up (which is what I have)
Being a Mac user for a couple of decades I'm used to things not being straightforward with new kit although I must say most of the struggles were in the distant past.
Anyone know of a good walk through that is NOT Windows based ??
..and me. I am Mac based as well (and not used to things not working first time). I have the Pi but the IQAudio DAC should be arriving soon.
On another forum are some details of another Mac user having set-up problems (although nothing to do with the Mac- as I understand it). See:
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/looking-help-rasberry-pi-hifiberry-digi-volumio
BW
Richard.
anthonyTD
04-05-2015, 12:15
It was a bit of pain to do as you have to do some programing,[i had help] but once the Micro SD card has all the info on it, it works fine, i am using Volumio.
It should be posible to clone the Micro SD card, i have two Pi 2's, when i got the second one, all i did was swap the SD card into it from my original one, and it worked fine, right out of the box, no need for keyboard, mouse, or any additional programing!
A...
That's exactly what I'm wanting to do, Anthony. Good to hear it's working well.
There is an easy way to set up if you get stuck with Volumio (sounds good but a bit of a pain with NAS storage, much easier with USB HDD attached to the Pi), write Picoreplayer to a small SD card and pop it in the Pi, install Logitech Media Server on your PC or Mac and use that to catalogue the music library. Make sure both are connected to your network (wired or wireless) and then use either a smartphone or tablet with Squeezebox app and they should all be easy to find from the app. Your Pi will be called Picoreplayer and will have connected to LMS and the app will allow you to control the Pi.
It is the easiest way to get up and running that I've found, this will then let you try other setups at your leisure on another SD card. Picoreplayer is so small that the Pi can be unplugged without causing problems and I've found it very stable. Downside is that a PC/Mac needs to be on constantly running LMS. I'd also use Powerline network plugs to connect things over a network, once again more robust connection with higher speeds (in my 3 floor victorian semi)...
It was a bit of pain to do as you have to do some programing,[i had help] but once the Micro SD card has all the info on it, it works fine, i am using Volumio.
It should be posible to clone the Micro SD card, i have two Pi 2's, when i got the second one, all i did was swap the SD card into it from my original one, and it worked fine, right out of the box, no need for keyboard, mouse, or any additional programing!
Welcome to the club, mate! Are you using yours with the IQ-Audio DAC? *That* is where the magic lies.... :)
Btw, I'm using mine now with Paul's SR3DR linear PSU - my goodness how that transforms the RPi from something that sounds superb, to something that sounds UTTERLY STUNNING! :eek: Doubtless, you'll be building your own PSU for it, and if so, it'll be interesting to compare them :cool:
Marco.
When folks say 'by setup on a Mac' do you mean creating the SD image? If so its a complete dodle to do! There are guides on the HiFiBerry web site. Download the player image you want and then follow this guide for Mac OS to the letter: https://www.hifiberry.com/guides/create-sd-card-from-img-file/
As a prep, go to Utilities or Other and open up a Terminal session. At the command prompt type in sudo diskutil list
Hit enter, enter your admin login password at the prompt.....some stuff is output in the terminal window IE:
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *121.3 GB disk0
1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 120.5 GB disk0s2
3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
Make a note of the /dev/disk? disks, these are the disks YOU DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH.
Insert the SD car in your Mac, if you don't have a slot you will need an adapter to connect it via USB.
At the command prompt type in sudo diskutil list again and note the /dev/disk? of the SD drive...now you have that follow the HiFiBerry guide on the link I've just posted.
It was a bit of pain to do as you have to do some programing,[i had help] but once the Micro SD card has all the info on it, it works fine, i am using Volumio.
It should be posible to clone the Micro SD card, i have two Pi 2's, when i got the second one, all i did was swap the SD card into it from my original one, and it worked fine, right out of the box, no need for keyboard, mouse, or any additional programing!
A...
Programming? What programming?
Let's try to be positive folks, before the technophobia sets in! Using a Rpi+Volumio+DAC is not rocket science. If you can read and follow a clear set of instructions and , if necessary, ask for guidance in a coherent manner on forums like this, then there's absolutely no reason why this should be for geeks only.
Forearmed is forewarned, so I'd encourage everyone to at least give this a quick read:
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project
Keep in mind the following:
1.You need to start with a wired connection before you can get a wireless connection working.
2. If you're using a i2s based sound device like the IQaudio DAC or one of the hifiberry products, you need to activate i2s on your Rpi via Volumio before you can use the device.
3. Your audio files can be on a USB memory stick or USB HDD directly connected to the Rpi ( in the later case you may have to think about a powered hub, or tweaking the Rpi config to provide max power through it's USB ports) , or on another computer/laptop/NAS device made available to the Rpi via a Windows/OSX/Linux share.
4. Take care with info entered on Volume about your NAS shares. The “remote directory” name should not begin with a slash “/”. See the example in the reference above.
Please. please don't be put off by anything you've read here.
montesquieu
04-05-2015, 14:23
Monte,
Is this a correct summary for you?
1 Volumio now shows the hifiberry DIGI+ as a selectable sound device (possibly its appears as sndhifiberry) but you can't get Voulmio to mount your NAS share.
2. Runeaudio mounts your NAS share, but you haven't, or cannot, activate your hifiberry DIGI+ i2s sound card.
As you can see from my sig, I have had a RPiB+/HifiDigi+ combo in use for a few months now. When I tested Volumio and Rune, I did'nt have your problems, but I was using a wired connection and being familiar with Linux was able to check things via the command line.
If you currently have Runeaudio loaded on your SD card, I would check if you've gone through the settings, correctly selecting any i2s options. See : http://www.runeaudio.com/documentation/runeui/settings/ and then go back to the MPD config page on Rune.
If you still fail to get this working on Runeaudio, you'll have to tackle the mount problem on Volumio. You can safely do some checks at the command line on Volumio to help debug the situation, but not alter settings, as Alan warned, because Volumio maintains an internal database of configuration settings.
One common point of error when entering info for a Windows share on Volumio is having a leading slash in the "remote directory name". If your NAS share is for example \\192.168.1.75\Public\Music, then you'd enter Public/Music as the remote directory.
Yes good summary
On Rune Audio the I2S options need to be activated via the command line (according to the support doc I read) so that is beyond me at the moment.
On the Volumio pathname, There is only only one Folder I'm pointing at, at the top level of the disk (unless something like 'Public' is invisible?) - 'Music' so the only thing I'm putting in the pathname is Music or Music/ - the IP address I'm using is the one in the BT router profile page. Inside there are Mac type folders containing iTunes material and Flac material, I wonder if I should replace the spaces with underscores or something?
There is an easy way to set up if you get stuck with Volumio (sounds good but a bit of a pain with NAS storage, much easier with USB HDD attached to the Pi), write Picoreplayer to a small SD card and pop it in the Pi, install Logitech Media Server on your PC or Mac and use that to catalogue the music library. Make sure both are connected to your network (wired or wireless) and then use either a smartphone or tablet with Squeezebox app and they should all be easy to find from the app. Your Pi will be called Picoreplayer and will have connected to LMS and the app will allow you to control the Pi.
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 14:44
It was a bit of pain to do as you have to do some programing,[i had help] but once the Micro SD card has all the info on it, it works fine, i am using Volumio.
It should be posible to clone the Micro SD card, i have two Pi 2's, when i got the second one, all i did was swap the SD card into it from my original one, and it worked fine, right out of the box, no need for keyboard, mouse, or any additional programing!
A...
lol... oh bugger... if it needs any programming it's going in the bin. That's a fact...
here is me thinking all I need to do is flash Volumio to the SD card and set some network settings.
oh well... it will be up for sale later then.
Yes good summary
On Rune Audio the I2S options need to be activated via the command line (according to the support doc I read) so that is beyond me at the moment.
This was not the case when I last tested Runeaduio - did you download the latest v0.3-beta version? Have you checked the reference I gave you?
On the Volumio pathname, There is only only one Folder I'm pointing at, at the top level of the disk (unless something like 'Public' is invisible?) - 'Music' so the only thing I'm putting in the pathname is Music or Music/ - the IP address I'm using is the one in the BT router profile page. Inside there are Mac type folders containing iTunes material and Flac material, I wonder if I should replace the spaces with underscores or something?
Make sure your are using the ip of the NAS. And you're quite sure the share path is \\<ip of nas>\Music? ( Did you try Public/Music as your remote directory?). To check the RPi can see your NAS share:
Use the MAC's inbuilt "Terminal" app to login into the RPi via SSH as root with the password volumio, eg: (replace 192.168.1.100 with actual IP of your RPI)
ssh root@192.168.1.100
Type volumio when it asks for a password.
As root in your RPi execute this command (replace 192.168.1.50 with actual IP of your NAS):
smbclient -L 192.168.1.50 -U %
If the RPi can see your NAS share, it will be listed in the command's output. Cut & paste the output here.
lol... oh bugger... if it needs any programming it's going in the bin.
I've already asked, what programming? I'll take it off your hands for £20, and flog it for £149 like these people:
http://dbmservers.tictail.com/product/dbm-network-audio-player
Money for old rope, I'd say.
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 14:52
well... I've not read anything about any programming needed hence why I bought the stuff.
olde rope indeed.
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
If squeezecenter is a bog standard version of LMS, then yes it should. In any case. you can always test this on another computer as at the heart of the picoreplayer is Triode's "squeezelite" software player. See here for a versions you can run on Windows and/or OSX:
https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/
If squeezecenter is a bog standard version of LMS, then yes it should. In any case. you can always test this on another computer as at the heart of the picoreplayer is Triode's "squeezelite" software player. See here for a versions you can run on Windows and/or OSX:
https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/
Thanks, will have a look.
Let's try to be positive folks, before the technophobia sets in! Using a Rpi+Volumio+DAC is not rocket science. If you can read and follow a clear set of instructions and , if necessary, ask for guidance in a coherent manner on forums like this, then there's absolutely no reason why this should be for geeks only.
Indeed (with bells on)! How difficult the set up process is, is in danger of being grossly exaggerated.
Marco.
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 15:25
indeed, but I've not read anywhere that I would need a programmer to make this work.
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
It will, might frustrate you with its slowness but yes I have seen it work at a Wam bakeoff (not with that NAS though). Picoreplayer, iPeng and Squeezecenter are designed to work together so the brand of NAS server shouldn't matter. My next step with the PiDac is a psu and then vortexbox running on a NAS with Volumio on the Pi.....
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 15:55
Programming? What programming?
Let's try to be positive folks, before the technophobia sets in! Using a Rpi+Volumio+DAC is not rocket science. If you can read and follow a clear set of instructions and , if necessary, ask for guidance in a coherent manner on forums like this, then there's absolutely no reason why this should be for geeks only.
Forearmed is forewarned, so I'd encourage everyone to at least give this a quick read:
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project
Keep in mind the following:
1.You need to start with a wired connection before you can get a wireless connection working.
2. If you're using a i2s based sound device like the IQaudio DAC or one of the hifiberry products, you need to activate i2s on your Rpi via Volumio before you can use the device.
3. Your audio files can be on a USB memory stick or USB HDD directly connected to the Rpi ( in the later case you may have to think about a powered hub, or tweaking the Rpi config to provide max power through it's USB ports) , or on another computer/laptop/NAS device made available to the Rpi via a Windows/OSX/Linux share.
4. Take care with info entered on Volume about your NAS shares. The “remote directory” name should not begin with a slash “/”. See the example in the reference above.
Please. please don't be put off by anything you've read here.
Thanks, Chris... Getting anxious about this now.
indeed, but I've not read anywhere that I would need a programmer to make this work.
No idea where that came from, mate, unless it's when preparing the SD card, but that's not exactly programming!
Marco.
anthonyTD
04-05-2015, 16:03
As Krisbee has said, there is little to be done appart from what we had to do to get the wireless part of what we were doing to work, it may also be the case that what we did was a round about way to acheive the same thing,either way, dont be put off, To use a pi, in the conventional way ie; to stream music via a hard drive, or memory stick, its not rocket science to set up, just get one, and have a play, there is plenty of info on various sites [including this one] that will help.
indeed, but I've not read anywhere that I would need a programmer to make this work.
Oi daftee (Mr Matthews). Did you see this post:
Welcome to the club, mate! Are you using yours with the IQ-Audio DAC? *That* is where the magic lies.... :)
Btw, I'm using mine now with Paul's SR3DR linear PSU - my goodness how that transforms the RPi from something that sounds superb, to something that sounds UTTERLY STUNNING! :eek: Doubtless, you'll be building your own PSU for it, and if so, it'll be interesting to compare them :cool:
:)
Marco.
anthonyTD
04-05-2015, 16:07
Thanks, yes, using the IQ audio Dac+, and a dedicated linear power supply i built, had an interesting conversation with the guy who designed the DAC too.
Welcome to the club, mate! Are you using yours with the IQ-Audio DAC? *That* is where the magic lies.... :)
Btw, I'm using mine now with Paul's SR3DR linear PSU - my goodness how that transforms the RPi from something that sounds superb, to something that sounds UTTERLY STUNNING! :eek: Doubtless, you'll be building your own PSU for it, and if so, it'll be interesting to compare them :cool:
Marco.
Thanks, Chris... Getting anxious about this now.
No need for anxiety ... Just take it step by step, and possibly put some audio files on a USB stick to test the setup before going on to use any NAS shares if that's an area you feel you need to read up on.
Thanks, yes, using the IQ audio Dac+, and a dedicated linear power supply i built, had an interesting conversation with the guy who designed the DAC too.
Excellent. We must 'compare notes' later! ;)
Marco.
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
I probably should have said before, but if you'r new to using the RPi and intend to purchase, or already have purchased, the latest quad core RPi, then there's a good case for running LMS on the RPi 2 itself along with squeezelite and simply use your Zyxel NSA310 as a file server. As Soulman said the performance of LMS on the Zyxel may not be too hot. Nor will you get the latest version of LMS running, and if things like the BBC iplayer plugin are of interest to you, then you may well have problems playing the new BBC radio HLS streams on the Zxyel.
This means using something other than the picoreplayer on your RPi.
montesquieu
04-05-2015, 16:22
Programming? What programming?
Let's try to be positive folks, before the technophobia sets in! Using a Rpi+Volumio+DAC is not rocket science. If you can read and follow a clear set of instructions and , if necessary, ask for guidance in a coherent manner on forums like this, then there's absolutely no reason why this should be for geeks only.
Forearmed is forewarned, so I'd encourage everyone to at least give this a quick read:
http://theaudiostandard.net/thread/501/raspberry-based-audio-streamer-project
Keep in mind the following:
1.You need to start with a wired connection before you can get a wireless connection working.
2. If you're using a i2s based sound device like the IQaudio DAC or one of the hifiberry products, you need to activate i2s on your Rpi via Volumio before you can use the device.
3. Your audio files can be on a USB memory stick or USB HDD directly connected to the Rpi ( in the later case you may have to think about a powered hub, or tweaking the Rpi config to provide max power through it's USB ports) , or on another computer/laptop/NAS device made available to the Rpi via a Windows/OSX/Linux share.
4. Take care with info entered on Volume about your NAS shares. The “remote directory” name should not begin with a slash “/”. See the example in the reference above.
Please. please don't be put off by anything you've read here.
Success! I managed to edit the config.txt file on Rune Audio to enable the Digi+ board, am getting sound out now.
I'll go back at some point and see if any of the above helps with Volumio but for now it's working quite happily with Rune Audio.
Funnily enough the SPDIF output on the RPi is connected via a length of ANVx that probably cost more than the whole RPI setup + NAS combined.
I'll compare sound with £3k's worth of Audio Note transport later, but they are of course doing very different things, in particular this gives me access to a whole bunch of FLAC files that I haven't otherwise been able to play.
Success! I managed to edit the config.txt file on Rune Audio to enable the Digi+ board, am getting sound out now.
I'll go back at some point and see if any of the above helps with Volumio but for now it's working quite happily with Rune Audio.
Funnily enough the SPDIF output on the RPi is connected via a length of ANVx that probably cost more than the whole RPI setup + NAS combined.
I'll compare sound with £3k's worth of Audio Note transport later, but they are of course doing very different things, in particular this gives me access to a whole bunch of FLAC files that I haven't otherwise been able to play.
Great! Enjoy the new sounds ....
Stratmangler
04-05-2015, 16:44
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
Yes!
Success! I managed to edit the config.txt file on Rune Audio to enable the Digi+ board, am getting sound out now.
:hifive: :yesbruv:
Marco.
Stratmangler
04-05-2015, 17:04
I probably should have said before, but if you'r new to using the RPi and intend to purchase, or already have purchased, the latest quad core RPi, then there's a good case for running LMS on the RPi 2 itself along with squeezelite and simply use your Zyxel NSA310 as a file server. As Soulman said the performance of LMS on the Zyxel may not be too hot. Nor will you get the latest version of LMS running, and if things like the BBC iplayer plugin are of interest to you, then you may well have problems playing the new BBC radio HLS streams on the Zxyel.
This means using something other than the picoreplayer on your RPi.
The LMS level that Zyxel support is 7.7.1, and it's been edited to remove the heavy lifting stuff, so transcoding on the fly is a no can do scenario.
Serving 24/192 files is not a problem - the NSA310 is more than up to the job.
It also runs the latest iteration of Triode's iPlayer plugin (v1.3.1alpha3) without encountering any issues.
The only issues you're likely to encounter are network related, either on wifi (I don't have wifi problems here, but the house is only a 2 up 2down terrace) or using those Godforsaken ethernet over powerline adapters.
The only truly dependable connection is wired ethernet!
The Black Adder
04-05-2015, 17:11
No need for anxiety ... Just take it step by step, and possibly put some audio files on a USB stick to test the setup before going on to use any NAS shares if that's an area you feel you need to read up on.
Just want to use it with a HDD/stick, not over network.
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
Yes, Penguin, but if you use it with a ping-pong and ZITsqueezer, on a XYLophone, you might not get any iTunes.
Marco.
walpurgis
04-05-2015, 17:27
Blimey Marco. That lot sounds like a foreign language to me. I didn't understand any of it! :eek:
Any idea if this would work using ipeng and squeezecenter on a ZyXEL NSA310 nas drive, thanks.
Yes, it's how I'm using the RPi. I have the NSA320s and run LMS on the RPi using max2play. The RPi is controlled using iPeng on an ipad a much better way of playing, browsing and controlling your music than via the clunky web interfaces of Volumio/moode/rune etc.
The LMS level that Zyxel support is 7.7.1, and it's been edited to remove the heavy lifting stuff, so transcoding on the fly is a no can do scenario.
Serving 24/192 files is not a problem - the NSA310 is more than up to the job.
It also runs the latest iteration of Triode's iPlayer plugin (v1.3.1alpha3) without encountering any issues.
Using iPlayer plugin v1.3.1alpha3 means knowing about this : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103435-BBCiPlayer-Plugins-an-alternative-quick-fix-guide
OT: A month's gone by. and after messing with all the earlier fixes for the AAC to HLS switch, I still haven't used the latest from Triode. Still wondering if he'll ever post at the slimdevices forum again.
Stratmangler
04-05-2015, 17:54
Using iPlayer plugin v1.3.1alpha3 means knowing about this : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103435-BBCiPlayer-Plugins-an-alternative-quick-fix-guide
OT: A month's gone by. and after messing with all the earlier fixes for the AAC to HLS switch, I still haven't used the latest from Triode. Still wondering if he'll ever post at the slimdevices forum again.
That's a long a yawn inducing thread.
There was a post in another thread that requires no knowledge of the thread you've posted, and took me literally 2 minutes to get iPlayer with the HLS streams working on my server.
The post has since been edited or removed, so here's a snapshot of the relevant bit of the plugins page
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae88/Stratmangler/LMS%20additional%20repositories_zpslmcvqzmg.png (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/Stratmangler/media/LMS%20additional%20repositories_zpslmcvqzmg.png.ht ml)
Thanks for the info guys, I have been using ipeng and the NSA310 nas drive with my squeezebox touch for a couple of years now. Looking forward to trying it with the Raspberry pi.
cyclopse
04-05-2015, 18:41
Looks like the Pi DACs are sold out again.
Well my RPi 2, edimax USB WiFi dongle and SD card arrived today (via Amazon logistics who apparently deliver on bank holidays:scratch:)
Still waiting for my IQ dac and case to come. Didn't get a chance to set it up today but am I right in thinking I can get some tunes out of the pi in the meantime by lashing it up to my Rega dacs USB port or should I just hold on until the iq dac arrives?
montesquieu
04-05-2015, 23:04
Well my RPi 2, edimax USB WiFi dongle and SD card arrived today (via Amazon logistics who apparently deliver on bank holidays:scratch:)
Still waiting for my IQ dac and case to come. Didn't get a chance to set it up today but am I right in thinking I can get some tunes out of the pi in the meantime by lashing it up to my Rega dacs USB port or should I just hold on until the iq dac arrives?
Would also be interested in knowing if the Pi can do USB out (or rather, **how** to do it) as I have an asynchronous USB receiver board fitted in my DAC ... though have to say the Digi+ is doing rather well with SPDIF. There **is** a very small difference in presentation between the Digi+ and my Audio Note CDT2/II transport but I'd be hard pressed to say which is better! :scratch:
Would also be interested in knowing if the Pi can do USB out (or rather, **how** to do it) as I have an asynchronous USB receiver board fitted in my DAC ... though have to say the Digi+ is doing rather well with SPDIF. There **is** a very small difference in presentation between the Digi+ and my Audio Note CDT2/II transport but I'd be hard pressed to say which is better! :scratch:
CAN IT?
If you can play audio files via your MAC when it is connected to the USB input of your main DAC without the need to use additional drivers on your MAC, then the Rpi should recognise the “asynchronous USB receiver board” fitted to your main DAC.
The Rpi needs to see your “asynchronous USB receiver board” as a “USB audio class 2” device. If your board happens to be based on an XMOS chip, for example, then it should be recognised.
HOW TO?
1. Connect USB cable between Rpi and DAC. ( Rpi should auto detect your USB DAC and load the required sound module)
2. Select USB audio device for output – MENU > MPD > Audio Output - Save & Apply
montesquieu
05-05-2015, 08:37
CAN IT?
If you can play audio files via your MAC when it is connected to the USB input of your main DAC without the need to use additional drivers on your MAC, then the Rpi should recognise the “asynchronous USB receiver board” fitted to your main DAC.
The Rpi needs to see your “asynchronous USB receiver board” as a “USB audio class 2” device. If your board happens to be based on an XMOS chip, for example, then it should be recognised.
HOW TO?
1. Connect USB cable between Rpi and DAC. ( Rpi should auto detect your USB DAC and load the required sound module)
2. Select USB audio device for output – MENU > MPD > Audio Output - Save & Apply
Thanks, I'll have a go but using Rune Audio I don't see a USB DAC option under audio output, though I didn't see a Digi+ option either till I edited config.txt so I'll have a look there.
The board is a bit of an odd one (Musiland) it works great with a PC laptop but they never got their act together on Mac (there was never a working driver).
Success! I managed to edit the config.txt file on Rune Audio to enable the Digi+ board, am getting sound out now.
I'll go back at some point and see if any of the above helps with Volumio but for now it's working quite happily with Rune Audio.
Funnily enough the SPDIF output on the RPi is connected via a length of ANVx that probably cost more than the whole RPI setup + NAS combined.
I'll compare sound with £3k's worth of Audio Note transport later, but they are of course doing very different things, in particular this gives me access to a whole bunch of FLAC files that I haven't otherwise been able to play.
Relieved for you. It was quite a struggle. What pointed you to the config.txt file?
Hi Alan,
You have a PM. Cheers! :)
Marco.
Btw, Alan, on another issue, regarding Spotify, I carried out a fresh install of Volumio and have now managed to get it to appear on the 'Browse' menu, along with my NAS and Webradio.
However, although Spotify is listed, it is still 'inactive', as I can't actually use it to access my Spotify account. How did you manage to get Spotify to work, with Volumio, once you got it to appear in the 'Browse' menu? :)
Marco.
I got it to work by entering a device username I had recently got from Spotiy and a newly set password.
I have always used a Facebook account to open Spotify but that doesn't work of course, so a device username was obtained.
Entered those, rebooted and it was away. I like the fact that as well as it giving your your playlists (if you use them) the search also searches the whole of Spotify. Rune doesn't do that.
Indeed, but do bear in mind that what I'm "enthusing" about is simply its sound quality (which given the price is phenomenal), as this is after all a hi-fi forum. Plus, there is plenty of help available here now (and elsewhere on other forums) to collectively assist newbies and the 'technically challenged' to overcome most problems.
Therefore, all in all, considering the huge sonic and musical benefits that can be had, I don't think there's any good reason for folk to be scared of 'dipping their toes into the Pi pool'. With a wee bit of effort, you will be amply rewarded!
:exactly:
Marco.
So you are only enthusing about the sound quality? I could be confused how folks would dissociate the sound from the source creating the sound.
Wee bit of effort. I am seeing a lot of effort and struggle from those with wet feet so far.
We'll wait and see what happens when say 100 PI-DAC+s land this week eh?
I got it to work by entering a device username I had recently got from Spotiy and a newly set password.
I have always used a Facebook account to open Spotify but that doesn't work of course, so a device username was obtained.
Entered those, rebooted and it was away.
Ok, thanks for that. Trouble is, I've already done all of that, with no joy (including entering a device username and password, which I got from Spotify). Those details have also been tested as working, by the fact that I can use them to log into my Spotify account (without the assistance of Facebook), and operate the service, externally, out with of Volumio.
Yet when I try to access it, via Volumio (using the same details, which have been stored and saved in the System section), and click on 'Spotify' in the Browse menu (the same as I would to play music stored on my NAS), all that happens is I'm taken to a page that says 'Starred' - and if I click on that, nothing happens! :scratch:
Any ideas? How do you actually get music from Spotify, by going through Volumio? At the moment it seems as if it's there ready to be used, but somehow needs 'prompting'.....
Marco.
Thanks, I'll have a go but using Rune Audio I don't see a USB DAC option under audio output, though I didn't see a Digi+ option either till I edited config.txt so I'll have a look there.
The board is a bit of an odd one (Musiland) it works great with a PC laptop but they never got their act together on Mac (there was never a working driver).
Hmm, maybe not Linux compatible then? Assuming you used SSH to connnect to your RPi in order to edit that "config.txt" , then you can use these commands as root on your RPi to see if the USB DAC connection is recognised:
lsusb
Is your USB DAC device listed? - I'd guess not.
lsmod | grep audio
Is "snd_usb_audio" in the list? - Probably not.
So you are only enthusing about the sound quality? I could be confused how folks would dissociate the sound from the source creating the sound.
Wee bit of effort. I am seeing a lot of effort and struggle from those with wet feet so far.
We'll wait and see what happens when say 100 PI-DAC+s land this week eh?
Sure. At the end of the day, as with any other additions to my system, all I can do is report on what's new that I consider is good. That's what a forum is for. In that respect, my eulogising of the RPi is no different to that of my eulogising of a new cartridge or set of cables. It's all about sonic performance (and 'SPPV value'), not necessarily ease of use.
In terms of the latter, folks will discover that for themselves, if or when they try whatever it is I'm recommending. In that respect, those who've successfully managed to set up and use the RPi/IQ-Audio DAC combo have all reported excellent results, which ultimately is what matters!
Exercising patience and perseverance in life always pays dividends :cool:
Marco.
The Black Adder
05-05-2015, 19:00
Righto...
Not got the Dac board as yet but I decided to fire the Pi up and sort out the settings etc.
So far... er so good with no sound... lol
Volumio is working in my browser, plugged the USB drive in and it's updated with the file list. All files are visible and playable, obviously with no sound at the mo.
\Not got the Dac board as yet
Have you had any notification that it's been shipped?
I paid for mine last week when they came in and got an order confirmation from Tindie but have heard nothing as yet about when it will be shipped...
The Black Adder
05-05-2015, 19:08
No, no notification at all.
I asked earlier... I was told it would be this week sometime. Still waiting. Maybe the man himself could share some light? :)
cyclopse
05-05-2015, 19:12
Have you had any notification that it's been shipped?
I paid for mine last week when they came in and got an order confirmation from Tindie but have heard nothing as yet about when it will be shipped...
I believe they have to test the batch of 250 before dispatch will commence. We have waited 7 to 8 weeks, a little longer is better than receiving a defective card.
Regards
Steve
cyclopse
05-05-2015, 19:14
Righto...
Not got the Dac board as yet but I decided to fire the Pi up and sort out the settings etc.
So far... er so good with no sound... lol
Volumio is working in my browser, plugged the USB drive in and it's updated with the file list. All files are visible and playable, obviously with no sound at the mo.
Plug headphones into the 3.5mm jack and you will have sound!
Regards
Steve
The Black Adder
05-05-2015, 19:28
cheers, steve...lol didn't think of that. Got audio.
OK.. well, I've got audio but only when I put a track or an album in to the playlist. It doesn't seem to play a file if I select it and press play.
Is this how it works?
Secondly.. I've just clicked 'turn off' via volumio and the rpi is taking ages to turn off. The green light is going for it big time and the network light is too.
Ok, thanks for that. Trouble is, I've already done all of that, with no joy (including entering a device username and password, which I got from Spotify). Those details have also been tested as working, by the fact that I can use them to log into my Spotify account (without the assistance of Facebook), and operate the service, externally, out with of Volumio.
Yet when I try to access it, via Volumio (using the same details, which have been stored and saved in the System section), and click on 'Spotify' in the Browse menu (the same as I would to play music stored on my NAS), all that happens is I'm taken to a page that says 'Starred' - and if I click on that, nothing happens! :scratch:
Any ideas? How do you actually get music from Spotify, by going through Volumio? At the moment it seems as if it's there ready to be used, but somehow needs 'prompting'.....
Marco.
Marco
Have you created ANY playlists in Spotify? It has just dawn on me (I am not using Volumio ATM) Starred is the default Playlist in Spotify. Have you Starred anything? Perhaps you are like me not into playlists - well you either use them or don't play.
Put some music in that Starred playlist and/or create another playlist - store tunes/tracks/music to either of those playlists.
When you connect to Spotify in Volumio both playlists should show, look inside them and there is your music. As I said in my last post search searches all of Spotify so you can find things that way too.
If that doesn't kick start you I really don't know. I am having fun trying to coax Rune to be equally useful with less success - it makes horrid noises like jitter.
I have never been on a forum where people send PMs saying they want answers no matter how nicely worded. I do use PMs to shared ideas with helpful people elsewhere though.
Hi Alan,
Thanks for that. That kind of makes sense now!
What I was (obviously wrongly) expecting was to click on 'Spotify', in the Browse menu in Volumio, and then be connected to the main menu (web player) of Spotify, where I would thus be able to play my selected music in the normal fashion, but instead of hearing it through the speakers on my laptop, hear it instead through the Pi, and hence my hi-fi system...
However, as usual, none of this is explained by those who've set up the Volumio software/interface - you're just supposed to 'know'! :doh:
So..... How do you create a playlist in Spotify? You're correct, I've never bothered with that function before :)
Marco.
P.S I'm trying now, but struggling to see how you put tracks into a playlist. It's not exactly self-explanatory or in any way intuitive.....
Ok, I've now worked out (with the help of Justin) how to 'Star' tracks on Spotify and create a playlist.
However, despite having done that, said tracks and playlist still aren't appearing in Volumio, under 'Spotify' in the Browse section (as when I click on Spotify, it still says 'Starred', but there are no tracks visible to select and play). Therefore, the question is this: how do you get Volumio to 'see' the Starred playlist you've set up on Spotify, or transfer it from there to Volumio? :scratch:
The problem here is that the Volumio software/interface badly lacks any kind of instructions or an 'FAQ'/troubleshooting section. It's all 'trial and error', and so you're just left to fend for yourself, and it simply isn't good enough. That situation really needs to be addressed by the powers that be, ASAP!
Marco.
Have you had any notification that it's been shipped?
I paid for mine last week when they came in and got an order confirmation from Tindie but have heard nothing as yet about when it will be shipped...
@IQ_audio: Gulp! All Pi-DAC+ & AMP+ sold on @tindie in record time. Shipping has started, notifications in chronological order http://t.co/ersFU07QEH
Tweeted ~ 45 mins ago.
IQ uses Twitter to communicate to a wider customer base then AoS. If you (anyone you, vous) wants the latest then Twitter is where vous will find it. Don't expect IQ to come and make a special visit to AoS, he is a bit busy ATM
Any thoughts on this, Alan (since you seem to be the man 'in the know'):
Ok, I've now worked out (with the help of Justin) how to 'Star' tracks on Spotify and create a playlist.
However, despite having done that, said tracks and playlist still aren't appearing in Volumio, under 'Spotify' in the Browse section (as when I click on Spotify, it still says 'Starred', but there are no tracks visible to select and play). Therefore, the question is this: how do you get Volumio to 'see' the Starred playlist you've set up on Spotify, or transfer it from there to Volumio? :scratch:
All I'm managing to do currently is successfully create a Starred playlist in Spotify, but am unable to access that playlist in Volumio, as for some reason the tracks I'm 'starring' aren't appearing there for me to play. If you could help with that, I'd be much obliged.
Cheers! :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 08:06
@IQ_audio: Gulp! All Pi-DAC+ & AMP+ sold on @tindie in record time. Shipping has started, notifications in chronological order http://t.co/ersFU07QEH
Tweeted ~ 45 mins ago.
IQ uses Twitter to communicate to a wider customer base then AoS. If you (anyone you, vous) wants the latest then Twitter is where vous will find it. Don't expect IQ to come and make a special visit to AoS, he is a bit busy ATM
cool... I am on twitter.. lol, just never use it.
@IQ_audio: Gulp! All Pi-DAC+ & AMP+ sold on @tindie in record time. Shipping has started, notifications in chronological order http://t.co/ersFU07QEH
Tweeted ~ 45 mins ago.
IQ uses Twitter to communicate to a wider customer base then AoS. If you (anyone you, vous) wants the latest then Twitter is where vous will find it. Don't expect IQ to come and make a special visit to AoS, he is a bit busy ATM
Thanks for that Alan - I don't tweet :)
Guess I'll just wait to see if I'm one of the lucky few or will suffer the Buzz Lightyear effect .....
That's the problem, too: the assumption that everyone on the net uses Twitter... I don't, and have no intention of doing so either, as it's completely irrelevant to my lifestyle. It seems that I'm not alone.
No disrespect to Gordon, but he has a trade account here, so should be using it more often to inform AoS members of the current stock situation with his DACs, and indeed communicate with them more in general. You can't just 'Tweet' a message on the Internet and automatically assume that everyone who needs to see it *has* seen it.
That is the purpose of having a trade account - the idea is that you use it! ;)
Marco.
That's the problem, too: the assumption that everyone on the net uses Twitter... I don't, and have no intention of doing so either, as it's completely irrelevant to my lifestyle. It seems that I'm not alone.
No disrespect to Gordon, but he has a trade account here, so should be using it more often to inform AoS members of the current stock situation with his DACs, and indeed communicate with them more in general. You can't just 'Tweet' a message on the Internet and automatically assume that everyone who needs to see it *has* seen it.
That is the purpose of having a trade account - the idea is that you use it! ;)
Marco.
+1
... particularly as I would think the 39,271 views for this thread would account for a substantial number of the 450 orders IQ received :lol:
Precisely!
If Gordon wants his DAC to take off properly in the audiophile community (and not just in 'Computer Geekland'), he'll need to adopt a bit more of a 'hands on' approach. In that respect, he could do worse than take a leaf out of Stan's book :)
Marco.
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 09:16
That's the problem, too: the assumption that everyone on the net uses Twitter... I don't, and have no intention of doing so either, as it's completely irrelevant to my lifestyle. It seems that I'm not alone.
No disrespect to Gordon, but he has a trade account here, so should be using it more often to inform AoS members of the current stock situation with his DACs, and indeed communicate with them more in general. You can't just 'Tweet' a message on the Internet and automatically assume that everyone who needs to see it *has* seen it.
That is the purpose of having a trade account - the idea is that you use it! ;)
Marco.
+1 - I wouldn't have thought of looking on twitter for news - just hope it comes soon/this week most preferably.
Yup, let's hope that Gordon reads this and takes the well-intended feedback on board. We're all in this here to promote the RPi/IQ DAC, as it's superb, so anything that helps achieve that goal should be considered :)
Marco.
Stratmangler
06-05-2015, 09:20
Precisely!
If Gordon wants his DAC to take off properly in the audiophile community (and not just in computer 'Geekland'), he'll need to adopt a bit more of a 'hands on' approach. In that respect, he could do worse than take a leaf out of Stan's book :)
Marco.
There's a far bigger market in computer geekland than there is in audiophile geekland.
Still, it wouldn't hurt Gordon to pay more attention to servicing the requirements of the propellorhead market represented here on AoS :eyebrows:
Just received my shipping confirmation from tindie. :)
The other thing is, if you've got 450 people waiting for a DAC, as apparently was the case last time, you don't just produce a new batch of 500, or whatever (and so sell out again immediately, forcing folk to wait yet again) - you produce 1000 (or more) units, thus allowing stock to be held, and for new customers to order and receive their DACs quickly.
The fact is that potential customers have a finite level of patience, so you have to grab them while they're 'hot', otherwise they lose interest and go off and buy something else. I certainly don't wish to teach Gordon 'how to suck eggs', but if he wants his DAC to truly take off big time, then he has to be suitably switched on and 'dialled into' the bigger picture :)
Marco.
There's a far bigger market in computer geekland than there is in audiophile geekland.
Still, it wouldn't hurt Gordon to pay more attention to servicing the requirements of the propellorhead market represented here on AoS :eyebrows:
That's exactly my point, Chris! And you're not going to capture that audience effectively simply by posting 'Tweets'...
Marco.
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 09:41
Just received my shipping confirmation from tindie. :)
Cool.. :) I'm #27833 - Not sure how the order numbers work with Tindie though.
Well, when someone posts post 991 we'll have 100 pages and nearly 1000 posts on a DAC no one can get their hands on.
Cool:)
Only on AoS:lol:;)
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 10:43
lol.. yet another indicator of the pure interest and demand for this little gem. :)
cyclopse
06-05-2015, 10:50
+1 - I wouldn't have thought of looking on twitter for news - just hope it comes soon/this week most preferably.
I have fount the Twitter updates very useful to see where they are up to with the orders. Once you search on the company IQ Audio you can view all their individual tweets. I do question why it's taken 2 months for this product to come back into stock. Also if it's manufactured, sold and sent from Scotland why we had to pay in U.S. $. If you have a great product with demand generated by word of mouth I would be ramping up production.
I have fount the Twitter updates very useful to see where they are up to with the orders. Once you search on the company IQ Audio you can view all their individual tweets.
That's fair enough, Stephen, if you're aware of that fact and inclined to do what you've suggested.
However, call me 'selfish', but I'm more familiar with the process of a company selling goods coming to inform me about their products, than me having to go and search for that information myself, especially when said company is a registered trader here.
Marco.
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 11:05
I have fount the Twitter updates very useful to see where they are up to with the orders. Once you search on the company IQ Audio you can view all their individual tweets. I do question why it's taken 2 months for this product to come back into stock. Also if it's manufactured, sold and sent from Scotland why we had to pay in U.S. $. If you have a great product with demand generated by word of mouth I would be ramping up production.
Tindie is a very good platform for selling goods, it's got world wide advantages so that's why it's in Dollars. It's also most probably cheaper than using ebay which is considered pikey these days.
My IQaudio DAC has been shipped. Just got confirmation email with tracking code.
It will be here in 3 work days. So next Monday.
Then, let the games begin. I am going to start pc vs. Rbpie testing.
Pc is running 5-7 year old pro audio cards + JRiver
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 12:47
Heeeeey!
:gig:
:partytime:
It's on it's way!
Cool.. :) I'm #27833 - Not sure how the order numbers work with Tindie though.
And I'm number 27819 so we should be getting the boards at roughly the same time. I predict chaos in all of us trying to get the damn things running :-)
For instance I've just found out how hard it is to create a working image of Volumio on a micro SD card if you only have a chromebook to work from. There are guides for Windows, Mac and Linux but Chrome OS?? Oh well, I knew this was a project rather than an out of the box solution.
Just recieved my dac from Gordon - pluged in the headphones and the difference to the on board dac is immense !! Just a quick question though, how do i get to the alsmixer controls?
The other thing is, if you've got 450 people waiting for a DAC, as apparently was the case last time, you don't just produce a new batch of 500, or whatever (and so sell out again immediately, forcing folk to wait yet again) - you produce 1000 (or more) units, thus allowing stock to be held, and for new customers to order and receive their DACs quickly.
The fact is that potential customers have a finite level of patience, so you have to grab them while they're 'hot', otherwise they lose interest and go off and buy something else. I certainly don't wish to teach Gordon 'how to suck eggs', but if he wants his DAC to truly take off big time, then he has to be suitably switched on and 'dialled into' the bigger picture :)
Marco.
Success is the bane of small businesses, in the short term at least. The lead times for batch manufacture arent short, especially as a manufacturer will schedule a small run around any larger commitments for obvious reasons. Customers are disinclined to wait and so inital interest often evaporates just as you are gearing up to satisfy it... examples are legion.
1000 pieces is still a snall order - probably two or three hours on a single pick and place line, so you eill always suffer from scheduling issues with contract manufscturers.
It takes a significant amount of courage to commit your own money to a project like this.. if it doesnt take off you end up with a lot of unsalable stock. Given the very low unit prices I think gordons approsch is logical and justified. Yes, many will want to buy from stock but i bet they wouldnt like it the price of building and holding a large stock was built into the price.
Aligauld
06-05-2015, 14:07
Just recieved my dac from Gordon - pluged in the headphones and the difference to the on board dac is immense !! Just a quick question though, how do i get to the alsmixer controls?
Hi There,
If you're on a windows PC then you will need a program called putty.
When you have that running the input the ip address of the Pi into putty and it will open a command line window.
Login: root
Password: volumio
When thats complete simply type in alsamixer and you'll be presented with the mixer settings.
Use the up and down arrows to change the volume and the left and right arrows to change to other settings.
When you're happy with that hit the esc key and then type exit to quit the cli.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Alistair
anthonyTD
06-05-2015, 15:14
Nice one Joe,
I am sure when you have plugged the DAC in, it will work fine, if your going to use it with your preamp, be sure to override the volume control in the Volumio settings as it just degrades the sound!
A...
Righto...
Not got the Dac board as yet but I decided to fire the Pi up and sort out the settings etc.
So far... er so good with no sound... lol
Volumio is working in my browser, plugged the USB drive in and it's updated with the file list. All files are visible and playable, obviously with no sound at the mo.
Hi There,
If you're on a windows PC then you will need a program called putty.
When you have that running the input the ip address of the Pi into putty and it will open a command line window.
Login: root
Password: volumio
When thats complete simply type in alsamixer and you'll be presented with the mixer settings.
Use the up and down arrows to change the volume and the left and right arrows to change to other settings.
When you're happy with that hit the esc key and then type exit to quit the cli.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Alistair
Thank you Alistair, very kind of you, i will try it now.
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 15:45
Nice one Joe,
I am sure when you have plugged the DAC in, it will work fine, if your going to use it with your preamp, be sure to override the volume control in the Volumio settings as it just degrades the sound!
A...
Thanks Anthony.
Should be good... I have looked for the override on the volume but I couldn't see it... any idea?
Thanks Anthony.
Should be good... I have looked for the override on the volume but I couldn't see it... any idea?
I think the information is in here:
Originally Posted by Terry View Post
Just recieved my dac from Gordon - pluged in the headphones and the difference to the on board dac is immense !! Just a quick question though, how do i get to the alsmixer controls?
Hi There,
If you're on a windows PC then you will need a program called putty.
When you have that running the input the ip address of the Pi into putty and it will open a command line window.
Login: root
Password: volumio
When thats complete simply type in alsamixer and you'll be presented with the mixer settings.
Use the up and down arrows to change the volume and the left and right arrows to change to other settings.
When you're happy with that hit the esc key and then type exit to quit the cli.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Alistair
The Black Adder
06-05-2015, 16:12
ah, righto...thanks :)
Must admit though, it seems a bit odd that the bypass can't be controlled via Volumio.
ah, righto...thanks :)
Must admit though, it seems a bit odd that the bypass can't be controlled via Volumio.
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