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Lol - I'd know you were fibbing if you were able to tell me the colour of her knickers!:eyebrows:
Marco.
oh i think i could probably guess that;) but of course i may lie:D
Hahaha - if you know, you're a naughty boy and have been peeking!:spank:
:D
Marco.
I'm a good guesser. Bet she has white on now [emoji23]
Lol... You're a nightmare:lol:
I've no idea, I'd have to ask her, and *exactly how* would you suggest I bring up that subject??:D
'Erm, sweetheart, Grant was just wondering what colour of knickers you had on?'
Not sure how that would go:hmm:
Marco.
I buy all of Happy's 'smalls', so know exactly what she is wearing.
Kinky bugger:D
Del very much buys that stuff on her own, or with friends. Just how she prefers it.
However, since earlier I've 'inadvertently discovered' she's wearing white cotton ones - so sadly nothing too exciting, but Grant was right!:eyebrows:
Marco.
When I say 'buy', she chooses and I approve and pay! :doh:
Lol - same here (I give her cash before she goes shopping), but I don't get the option to 'approve' her selection until it's modelled to me later (if I'm lucky)!:D
Hey, I'm sure you don't begrudge Happy the cost, as you'll get to 'enjoy' it, too!!;)
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
20-05-2021, 06:16
Lol - same here (I give her cash before she goes shopping), but I don't get the option to 'approve' her selection until it's modelled to me later (if I'm lucky)!:D
Hey, I'm sure you don't begrudge Happy the cost, as you'll get to 'enjoy' it, too!!;)
Marco.
Mrs. P buys the material from a local curtains shop and makes her own
Pigmy Pony
20-05-2021, 06:20
I buy all of Happy's 'smalls', so know exactly what she is wearing.
Whenever I get a phone call and the caller is female I simply ask her what she's wearing - they never tell me, they just hang up. Great for when you get nuisance calls :)
Kinky bugger:D
Del very much buys that stuff on her own, or with friends. Just how she prefers it.
However, since earlier I've 'inadvertently discovered' she's wearing white cotton ones - so sadly nothing too exciting, but Grant was right!:eyebrows:
Marco.Erm, it wiz a guess, honest guv.. [emoji23]
Lol, I think I mentioned before she wears white often - can't remember how the subject came up!:eek:
So you must've been listening;)
Marco.
Lol, I think I mentioned before she wears white often - can't remember how the subject came up!:eek:
So you must've been listening;)
Marco.
yes that'll be it... nowt at all to do with that zoom call:ner:
Haha - if was to you, it'd have been more like a ZOOMER call!:D:eyebrows:
Marco.
boom, boom!!! i was in the car mind, fluffing up my danglers:eyebrows:
Lol - good to hear! Just make sure you keep it clean and tidy or she won't entertain getting in it, and will have no qualms about telling you that either!:lol:
You know what she's like:doh:
Marco.
Lol - good to hear! Just make sure you keep it clean and tidy or she won't entertain getting in it, and will have no qualms about telling you that either!:lol:
You know what she's like:doh:
Marco.
alas its not as clean inside as it should be.. i have difficulties...lol... but will endevour to persevere:)
Lol - when I come up, I'll valet it:)
Marco.
had to get car washed again lol.. the birds have di-hollia:doh:.. hoping its not so bad tomorrow.. gave it another good run a well.. its going quite well.. typical as its due to be changed in 5 months
You've decided to go for something else then?
had to get car washed again lol.. the birds have di-hollia:doh:..
"di-hollia" - what's dat when it's at home, mate?:hmm:
Marco.
Lol - I see... Congratulations - that's the most novel spelling of it I've ever seen!:D
Marco.
With summer round the corner, decided to lose the Winter tyres on the Brera and get her Summer boots on.
Michelin Pilot Sport 4s
The improvement in grip, noise and ride comfort is terrific, reckon these are the best tyres I've used?
The cars got great 'stance' and I love the look of the wheels, but felt they were recessed in the arches a bit?
Fixed that by fitting 20mm Eibach hubcentric wheel spacers, brought the wheels out to better fill the arches.
Way better now, much happier with how the car looks. The wider stance just brings out more 'Alfa' in how it looks.
Happy days.
https://i.imgur.com/P4lcli4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YuhDHsb.jpg
She's looking great, mate! Told ya about the PS 4s, didn't I?;)
Happy motoring:cool:
Marco.
looking good Gaz... just had mine out for a spin in sport mode.. 60mpg as well..:)
Ya sure did! :)
And you weren't wrong, gripper than a grippy thing at a grippy convention.
looking good Gaz... just had mine out for a spin in sport mode.. 60mpg as well..:)
Crackin' Day for it!
Heading out for a spin later m'self.
dave2010
04-06-2021, 16:34
Ongoing battery issues. Was going to take greenery to the dump a couple of days back in the remaining petrol vehicle, but it wouldn't go - poor thing. I think the boot catch maybe didn't engage properly, so the battery ran down - not sure why.
It was so sick it that the wing mirrors wouldn't even go in, and trying to get into the car set the alarm off, which probably pleased the neighbours at 10.30pm. Charging over night the following day seemed to fix it - though I still set the alarm off getting into it to get the battery connected to the charger, but it sounded quite healthy after a decent charge.
I probably ought to check it again. Maybe the battery really is on its last legs. Mrs d keeps suggesting that we sell it, but we wouldn't get much for it, even though it's in nice condition and goes well. Such is the way of the world.
Perhaps I'm being too cautious in keeping it, but my point is that if anything fails with the EVs we'll be stuffed, plus also if we ever have pleasant enough weather to drive around with the roof down, that's the car to use.
I may actually get round to asking some audio related questions in a day or two - for example concerning the newer (and trendier?) range of speakers - such as the KEF LS50s.
I had to replace my car battery recently. I hadn't realised how 'sophisticated' modern batteries are - and how expensive: I was expecting to pay about £100, but I had to pay £240. :doh:
Beobloke
04-06-2021, 17:52
Bollocks.
Range Rover’s leaking coolant again, albeit from a different place this time. It’s good to have variety I suppose...
Land Cruiser next time then Adam.
Firebottle
04-06-2021, 21:26
I had to replace my car battery recently. I hadn't realised how 'sophisticated' modern batteries are - and how expensive: I was expecting to pay about £100, but I had to pay £240. :doh:
You've been done. (Last battery I bought was a bog standard for about £68 I think)
Any joking apart what car was it for and what's 'sophisticated' about it?
Probably due to 'stop/start' technology, [see link below] which requires a more sophisticated/heavy duty battery (AGM), facilitating the plethora of electronics needing powered in modern cars (I believe Barry has an Audi A1).
https://www.oaks-services.co.uk/news/whats-the-difference-between-a-stop-start-battery-a-normal-battery/
The last battery for the Brabster was just shy of £300, but that's for a 3.5L engine, with lots of current-demanding stuff attached to it. This is what's fitted in my car: https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/products/varta-silver-dynamic-agm which I suspect will be similar to what's in Barry's.
Marco.
Bollocks.
Range Rover’s leaking coolant again, albeit from a different place this time. It’s good to have variety I suppose...
Sorry to hear that, mate. Hope you get it sorted soon!:)
Marco.
Probably due to 'stop/start' technology, [see link below] which requires a more sophisticated/heavy duty battery (AGM), facilitating the plethora of electronics needing powered in modern cars (I believe Barry has an Audi A1).
https://www.oaks-services.co.uk/news/whats-the-difference-between-a-stop-start-battery-a-normal-battery/
The last battery for the Brabster was just shy of £300, but that's for a 3.5L engine, with lots of current-demanding stuff attached to it. This is what's fitted in my car: https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/products/varta-silver-dynamic-agm which I suspect will be similar to what's in Barry's.
Marco.
Yes, that's more or less what the AA man said, though I wasn't really taking it all in at the time. My Audi does seem to have a lot of current consuming "bells and whistles" on it which need powering: sat-nav; air-con; heated seats; electric sun roof, plus the usual radio and CD player.
Like yours the new battery is made by Varta, and replaced the original, which would have been 9 years old. I was amused to see the AA engineer had to 'tell' the car (by plugging in some sort of gizmo under the dash), that the battery had been changed.
Filterlab
05-06-2021, 15:45
Canbus. Everything has to be 'keyed' in on modern cars these days. On a newer Merc one can't even change a lightbulb without having to advise the computer. Sheesh.
they changed battery on mine several times. i didnt notice him doing that for mine.. quite a small battery so maybe didnt matter, as it doesnt do any starting etc
Pigmy Pony
05-06-2021, 17:17
Probably due to 'stop/start' technology, [see link below] which requires a more sophisticated/heavy duty battery (AGM), facilitating the plethora of electronics needing powered in modern cars (I believe Barry has an Audi A1).
https://www.oaks-services.co.uk/news/whats-the-difference-between-a-stop-start-battery-a-normal-battery/
The last battery for the Brabster was just shy of £300, but that's for a 3.5L engine, with lots of current-demanding stuff attached to it. This is what's fitted in my car: https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/products/varta-silver-dynamic-agm which I suspect will be similar to what's in Barry's.
Marco.
Exactly this. If your car has all the gizmos that are fitted these days, and especially if it has stop/start technology, AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) is the way to go. But they do cost upwards of £250. Older low-tech cars don't really need this, and a regular acid-flooded battery is fine and should come in under £100. But you do get what you pay for - get a good 'un and forget it :)
Exactly this. If your car has all the gizmos that are fitted these days, and especially if it has stop/start technology, AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) is the way to go. But they do cost upwards of £250. Older low-tech cars don't really need this, and a regular acid-flooded battery is fine and should come in under £100. But you do get what you pay for - get a good 'un and forget it :)
Yups... Interestingly though, the Brabster is late 2008 and was still fitted with an AGM [that's the battery it came with], thus what I've always replaced. I wonder how much older or 'low-tech' a car would have to be, in order for it to be as you say?:hmm::)
Certainly, cars are much more hi-tech now than they were in 2008..
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
05-06-2021, 17:55
Yups... Interestingly though, the Brabster is late 2008 and was still fitted with an AGM [that's the battery it came with], thus what I've always replaced. I wonder how much older or 'low-tech' a car would have to be, in order for it to be as you say?:hmm::)
Certainly, cars are much more hi-tech now than they were in 2008..
Marco.
I believe the AGM technology was developed in the 40's for military applications, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Brabster had one as OEM. Mercedes do like to 'over engineer' imo, it's one of the things that make them fab :)
Yup, probably so, mate:)
Marco.
mines been filled up with petroleum.. 18 quid.. for about 180 miles. not too bad. washed a day or so ago so looking good. once i get second jab i can even go into shops if i wish:lol: just 7 weeks to go
Ali Tait
07-06-2021, 17:16
Surprised you haven’t had your second yet Grant, got mine a couple of weeks ago. I’d have thought they would have prioritised you.
walpurgis
07-06-2021, 17:21
mines been filled up with petroleum.. 18 quid.. for about 180 miles. not too bad.
Costs the same to run as mine.
Surprised you haven’t had your second yet Grant, got mine a couple of weeks ago. I’d have thought they would have prioritised you.
was a feck up mate.. still at least ive had first now. i wouldnt with anyone the issues ive had... disgrace tbh
Ali Tait
07-06-2021, 17:28
Yeah not good. At least you’re getting sorted now.
rmcin626
08-06-2021, 12:32
Car insurance renewal time - the joys
Car insurance renewal time - the joys
oh dear... can be pricy with big fancy cars like yours... fortunately mine comes with the lease
rmcin626
08-06-2021, 12:41
oh dear... can be pricy with big fancy cars like yours... fortunately mine comes with the lease
Not all are quoting on a like for like basis, lots of possible add ons
Filterlab
08-06-2021, 18:09
Car insurance renewal time - the joys
I'm just about to change my tired but brilliant Citroën for a brand new Audi A6 Quattro 265 (Panamera on hold for now).
Had a quote from Confused... 45 y/o, for personal and business use including carriage of client goods, 25,000 miles a year, windscreen and legal cover, car value of £42,000... £515 for the year. Blummin good value that!
rmcin626
08-06-2021, 18:40
I'm just about to change my tired but brilliant Citroën for a brand new Audi A6 Quattro 265 (Panamera on hold for now).
Had a quote from Confused... 45 y/o, for personal and business use including carriage of client goods, 25,000 miles a year, windscreen and legal cover, car value of £42,000... £515 for the year. Blummin good value that!
Now that I'm retired, not doing a huge mileage, Aviva were looking for just over £400 for me to renew but gone with Hastings Direct and saved about £140, so quite happy.
Filterlab
08-06-2021, 18:44
I'm currently with Hastings. They always seem to be good.
rmcin626
08-06-2021, 18:59
I'm currently with Hastings. They always seem to be good.
Hopefully don't have to use them, I think the price dropped as I no longer commute by car.
Hopefully don't have to use them, I think the price dropped as I no longer commute by car.
i used to use them too after being with about everyone else lol. yeah no commuting should drop price a fair bit
Pigmy Pony
11-06-2021, 18:28
I'm currently with Hastings. They always seem to be good.
+2 for Hastings. Gone to them this year :)
InThe Sticks
12-06-2021, 16:31
This years bike insurance..
https://i.imgur.com/huNJ9tZ.jpg
That'll do :D
InThe Sticks
12-06-2021, 16:33
Weapons cleaned for the first time in ages..
https://i.imgur.com/Ub8t4SN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tIonjI2.jpg
Pigmy Pony
12-06-2021, 16:46
Weapons cleaned for the first time in ages..
https://i.imgur.com/Ub8t4SN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tIonjI2.jpg
Nice and shiny and ready for tomorrow's onslaught of bug splats :) All you need now is a top box with a hole cut into the lid for Kitler's head to poke through...
InThe Sticks
12-06-2021, 17:15
Any idea where I can buy some cat size flying goggles?
like this eh? lol
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/W~kAAOSwwKhcr~4e/s-l400.jpg
Pigmy Pony
12-06-2021, 19:30
like this eh? lol
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/W~kAAOSwwKhcr~4e/s-l400.jpg
Looks really cool, I wish I could pull that off, but I'd just look stupid :(
mad-moon
16-06-2021, 15:52
Question : does anyone own.or have experience of any of the new MG cars..particularly the MG HS 1.5 models??..any info welcomed cheers..
Question : does anyone own.or have experience of any of the new MG cars..particularly the MG HS 1.5 models??..any info welcomed cheers..
i have looked at this car as a possible. its good value and a decent performer. the phev is quite good too(but pricy). ive not wrote it off yet so it cant be bad
It's Chinese! :doh:
true. but beggers cant be choosers afaic ... if i can afford it and fit in it then it has to be a candidate. i'd prefer it not to be tho.
with regard to rear space, i could abandon my hoist and buy a folding scooter, but it might end up as expensive.
i will maybe try and sell my hifi to generate funds. need to be pick up tho as the speakers are not postable and the amp deserves picked up imo being basically new.
Filterlab
16-06-2021, 17:34
i will maybe try and sell my hifi to generate funds. need to be pick up tho as the speakers are not postable and the amp deserves picked up imo being basically new.
Nooooooo!
It's just a car.
Lol. Yes but if I can't get a car I fit into, then I'm stuck out in suburbs on my lonesome.. For ever.
It's just unfortunate that the bigger motors cost more.
There is no houses available in town anyway so that's out. Not sure i fancy living in town anyway.
Will see how it goes tho.
Filterlab
16-06-2021, 18:28
Could you get a larger car but not brand new?
I assume your mobility allowance has to be spent on a new vehicle.
I assume your mobility allowance has to be spent on a new vehicle.
leases are new cars and for 3 years, yes.. i could get a loan and buy a car; paying the loan off with the money, but i dont like loans
Do what's best for you Grant. Don't pay any attention to me - I'm becoming a bit of a rabid sinophobe.
Do what's best for you Grant. Don't pay any attention to me - I'm becoming a bit of a rabid sinophobe.
within reason i am too barry. i'd be happier not to go that route, so will see how it goes. trouble is, the chips in cars are mostly made in china too. catch 22
Pigmy Pony
17-06-2021, 22:30
leases are new cars and for 3 years, yes.. i could get a loan and buy a car; paying the loan off with the money, but i dont like loans
Anita's Motability has the option to have money paid into bank and pick your own car - that's how we bought our Honda Civic. The monthly Motabilty payments covered the car loan cost. It enabled us to buy used, which we did. Got a 3 year old one.
Anita's Motability has the option to have money paid into bank and pick your own car - that's how we bought our Honda Civic. The monthly Motabilty payments covered the car loan cost. It enabled us to buy used, which we did. Got a 3 year old one.
yeah i could do that but again it means taking out a loan etc, which i dont like. not sure i'd get one anyway. Thing i like about motability is its all taken care of so no worries etc. no other costs etc.
Rowan Atkinson's crappy car collection:lol:
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/rowan-atkinson-car-collection
a link to Pierce Brosnan's too
Rowan Atkinson's crappy car collection:lol:
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/rowan-atkinson-car-collection
a link to Pierce Brosnan's too
Clucking bell! Some I wouldn't touch but he's got a Delta Integrale so he must have some taste.
walpurgis
19-06-2021, 09:29
Rowan Atkinson's crappy car collection:lol:
The Zagato Aston would be nice, but I'd not want the others. A Zagato Lancia Fulvia to pair with the Aston would also look cool outside the garage.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/tim-allen-car-collection
Tim Allen's are quite imprssive too, and mostly american
Jerry Sienfelds porsche collection for those inclined looks rather exclusive
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/cars/article/jerry-seinfeld-porsche-collection
George Harrisons too
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/george-harrison-cars
The Zagato Aston would be nice, but I'd not want the others. A Zagato Lancia Fulvia to pair with the Aston would also look cool outside the garage.
You wouldn't want the Integrale?
Ali Tait
19-06-2021, 11:18
I’ll have it!
Pigmy Pony
19-06-2021, 11:30
iirc the Delta Integrales were a rally spec car from the era of The first Audi Quattros (now that is a PROPER car) :) I believe there were reliabilty issues (they were Italian after all) and left hand drive only. Wouldn't put me off having one though.
walpurgis
19-06-2021, 11:44
You wouldn't want the Integrale?
Not over the Zagato Aston.
Not over the Zagato Aston.
Ah right I didn't realise we could only have one.:lol:
In that case I agree. I mean you never see Bond driving an Integrale.
Pigmy Pony
19-06-2021, 12:01
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/tim-allen-car-collection
Tim Allen's are quite imprssive too, and mostly american
I believe that American guy Jay Leno has a lot of stuff in his garage too.
Some of the not so pretty things about electric cars.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/355258/un-report-highlights-ethical-problems-electric-cars
Rowan Atkinson's crappy car collection:lol:
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/rowan-atkinson-car-collection
a link to Pierce Brosnan's too
My fav's the V8 vantage, by a country mile, followed by the F1, because it's a proper sports car and fast as fuck (in the right way)!
However, that Roller is just HIDEOUS, and everything the classic one's weren't, with the Bentley marginally less so. I wouldn't take either though in a gift, except to sell immediately!!:)
Marco.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/tim-allen-car-collection
Tim Allen's are quite imprssive too, and mostly american
Some belters there... Love the Ford F100 (cool as fuck), although that one has been overly pimped, not very tastefully either!
Ditto the Ferrari 330 GTC, Camaro 427, Carrera GT, Ford Mustang, but NOT in that colour:spew: and Nissan GTR.
Marco.
Yeah they're just wedding cars. And the Maclaren might be superbly engineered but owning one looks like you're trying too hard.
Yes, wedding cars for brainless folk with no taste! Yeah, I agree about the F1, but that wouldn't dilute the fun of driving it;)
Marco.
Jerry Sienfelds porsche collection for those inclined looks rather exclusive
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/cars/article/jerry-seinfeld-porsche-collection
I'll have the two 911s, plus the 918, ta. You can keep the rest:)
George Harrisons too
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/george-harrison-cars
I'll take the E-Type, and especially the DB5, which is one of my fav cars or all time, and the 928 and F1:)
Marco.
think the mclaren is just far to fast to enjoy. your gonna bend it sometime. maybe first time. his insurance claim fas 900k when he bent it.
id prefer a nice car like a beamer out on a quiet country rd than a mclaren
Some of the not so pretty things about electric cars.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/355258/un-report-highlights-ethical-problems-electric-cars
You mean that there's ANYTHING 'pretty' about them at ALL?:nono:;)
Marco.
think the mclaren is just far to fast to enjoy. your gonna bend it sometime. maybe first time. his insurance claim fas 900k when he bent it.
id prefer a nice car like a beamer out on a quiet country rd than a mclaren
Lol, yes but you know I'm a bit of an animal:hairmetal::eyebrows:
Plus, I'm really talking about taking in on a track:)
Marco.
walpurgis
19-06-2021, 18:06
Of those mentioned, I'd have the Ferrari 330 GTC. It's my second favourite Ferrari next to the 275 GTB4. Plenty quick enough and glorious sounding V12.
https://i.ibb.co/dj9VyLR/1019962.jpg (https://ibb.co/pbDMpRS)
Yes, the Ferrari's a very sexy car, but ultimately, if I had the choice, and when push came to shove, my love of American muscle cars would likely lead me to the Mustang, but ONLY in brutal (matt) black!:D
Although the two Astons would push it close...
Marco.
Of those mentioned, I'd have the Ferrari 330 GTC. It's my second favourite Ferrari next to the 275 GTB4. Plenty quick enough and glorious sounding V12.
https://i.ibb.co/dj9VyLR/1019962.jpg (https://ibb.co/pbDMpRS)
And it looks good as well! :)
Seeing those wire wheels with the hammer lugs on the hub, reminded me of my late father's Daimler V8. Deep blue with wire wheels, it turned heads - but the wheels were a bit of a bugger to clean.
It looked something like this:
https://artebellum-v2-mini.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/daimler-v8-250-1964-1jluo4c1p-1-780x520.jpg
Filterlab
19-06-2021, 18:19
Clucking bell! Some I wouldn't touch but he's got a Delta Integrale so he must have some taste.
I almost bought a Thema 8.32 some years back. Saab floorpan with a Ferrari engine. Very quick.
But it's a Lancia so it's actually a pile of shit. :lol:
And it looks good as well! :)
Indeed, but ultimately just a little too 'pretty' for me.
Marco.
Firebottle
19-06-2021, 18:31
Wish I'd bought an F1 when they were 'only' 1/2 a million.
I've got a 1/24th and a 1/12th model so that the nearest I'm going to get.
Seeing those wire wheels with the hammer lugs on the hub, reminded me of my late father's Daimler V8. Deep blue with wire wheels, it turned heads - but the wheels were a bit of a bugger to clean.
It looked something like this:
https://artebellum-v2-mini.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/daimler-v8-250-1964-1jluo4c1p-1-780x520.jpg
Very nice, Barry, and it would've also been very 'you':)
Marco.
Very nice, Barry, and it would've also been very 'you':)
Marco.
It was an automatic, so had a 'bench' seat at the front. But it was the first of a run of Daimlers and Jaguars he drove. His final car was a Daimler 'Double Six' 5.3 litre V12.
Again an automatic with leather seats, power steering, and by then air-con, it was extremely heavy on petrol. There was a display on the dash, which gave you the 'real time' MPG you were achieving. Up hill it would in single figures, down hill it would be something like 25 mpg!
That said it was a very nice car to drive, but would have been too expensive for me to run, and maintain. The tyres were about £100 apiece, and that was twenty years ago.
It looked like this (same colour, but the wheels were different):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/1986_Daimler_Double_Six_%2821486558373%29.jpg
Son just got me a big mobility scooter for father's day. Second hand but seems good and still in production. Does 20miles on a charge. [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/ed45a100e88de57d35ce7181f0927324.jpg
Just need to fit some scythes to the wheels and you're ready to hit the town.
Can I fit the sound system?:fingers::rave:
Marco.
Son just got me a big mobility scooter for father's day. Second hand but seems good and still in production. Does 20miles on a charge. [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210619/ed45a100e88de57d35ce7181f0927324.jpg
Wow! But does that mean you can only use it to and from home - or will it fit into back of your next car?
Wonderful Father's Day present.
I think the idea is to drive it too fast around the town, forcing people off the pavement and bashing into their trolleys in the supermarket. Or drive it on the road and create a massive tailback.
At least that seems to be what they use them for round here. Looks like loads of fun.
Can I fit the sound system?:fingers::rave:
Marco.
24v sound system:lol:
Wow! But does that mean you can only use it to and from home - or will it fit into back of your next car?
Wonderful Father's Day present.
it is transportable to a point but you probably would be better with ramps as its heavy even with batteries out and seat off and biggish.
Got full suspension i believe and were marked down to do 20 mpc. can take a load of 21.5 stone too.
no idea what batteries are like tho yet. its stuck in my kitchen so i will need to find a place to site it:doh:
I think the idea is to drive it too fast around the town, forcing people off the pavement and bashing into their trolleys in the supermarket. Or drive it on the road and create a massive tailback.
At least that seems to be what they use them for round here. Looks like loads of fun.
this one only does 4mph so not a rd model. some do both 4 and 8 which latter is for rd use. i will likely just use it on a nice day for the equ of a walk
this one only does 4mph so not a rd model. some do both 4 and 8 which latter is for rd use. i will likely just use it on a nice day for the equ of a walk
The ones you see on the road here aren't road models either, doesn't stop then using them on the road. I've even seen one on the dual carriageway with half a mile of HGVs stuck behind it.
The ones you see on the road here aren't road models either, doesn't stop then using them on the road. I've even seen one on the dual carriageway with half a mile of HGVs stuck behind it.
i wouldnt take this on a rd; well an anyway busy rd. it does have lights but, bugger that. bastards up here would just run over you
i wouldnt take this on a rd; well an anyway busy rd. it does have lights but, bugger that. bastards up here would just run over you
I agree it's insanity but doesn't stop them here. Have you got the all-weather transparent plastic covering for it?
I agree it's insanity but doesn't stop them here. Have you got the all-weather transparent plastic covering for it?
no.. i will have get a cape. im trying to clear the sheds myself... not easy as i cant walk much lol. no bugger to help either as is usually the case;) I thought it might go down the side run of kitchen but it if does i will not get passed it so had to get it out.
well thats it fitted into the summerhouse and locked up. stuff that was in summerhouse is now in workshop which i dont really use now.lol.
think ive done myself a mischief;)
The ones you see on the road here aren't road models either, doesn't stop then using them on the road. I've even seen one on the dual carriageway with half a mile of HGVs stuck behind it.
I hope one of the HGV drivers notified the police. I've heard of mobility scooters ending up on motorways and even trundling along in the wrong direction! :eek:
dave2010
25-06-2021, 13:55
I was never sure that our home charging unit (BP Chargemaster) was working properly, but now it's gone off completely. Real bummer since the council started charging for top ups in the local town.
Trying to get someone to come and repair or replace it turns out to be non trivial too. So with service levels like this why should I bother to recommend EVs to anyone? It's a pity - as I do think electric vehicles are almost certainly the way to go, unless hydrogen can be made viable
On a good day EVs are good, and we recently did a round trip of slightly under 1000 miles with relatively few problems. One stupid thing - supposedly one can do other things whiie EVs are charging, but that doesn't always work out too well - depending on how fast the public chargers are. The Tesla chargers are really fast, so there's only just enough time to go for a pee - which could be at times be useful. Unfortunately the Perth and Kinross council have decided that they can't afford to keep the bog open at the Broxden charger location, which is really not at all helpful.
Charging times need to be matched to activities which are feasible at each location, so chargers close to supermarkets and shopping centres might be sensible, as also destination chargers at hotels and B&Bs.
There's a complete lack of joined up thinking about service provision - but then that's nothing new, is it? This is the UK, after all.
Filterlab
25-06-2021, 14:28
It sounds like the normal, wanky, pathetic lack of focus that blights this country so often.
"Here's new technology that will significantly change the planet's ecology - but we can't afford to supply provision for it, and if it breaks it'll be unrepairable leaving you stranded and out of pocket.
By the way, the current alternative to this new technology will be banned in 8.5 years' time.
Welcome to the future!"
My next car will burn fossils. There's still no genuinely useable alternative.
yes its just the things that have put me off. No, or few chargers ; what there are will be being used or out of action/ and or very slow. In Scotland especially you need car heating a good chunk of year as well. My power box would also need changing etc/ permissions got etc for a home charger etc.
I will stick with fossil fuel too
dave2010
25-06-2021, 16:42
It sounds like the normal, wanky, pathetic lack of focus that blights this country so often.
:clap: That's a new emolji to me - sounds like an STD!
"Here's new technology that will significantly change the planet's ecology - but we can't afford to supply provision for it, and if it breaks it'll be unrepairable leaving you stranded and out of pocket.
By the way, the current alternative to this new technology will be banned in 8.5 years' time.
Welcome to the future!"
It's not only the infrastructure roll out which is a problem, but a lack of sensible technical support for chargers. Maybe BP have a subversive interest in making sure that their home chargers don't work properly! Totally useless customer service - we've been waiting two days for the service company to get back to us - despite promising that they would within 48 hours, and today after a reminder, assuring us that we'd hear from them by 5pm - which was over 30 minutes ago. Probably won't hear until the middle of next week - and yes - I have checked several times that the charger unit is not responding to reboots etc. Perhaps we should ask for £100 or more of free charging to compensate for the inconvenience.
I have also escalated the issue back to Arnold Clark Renault who sold us the car and the charger was included as an enticement to buy - but no response from them either. Not much point in having freebies from sellers if they don't work, eh! Everyone is going to pass the buck - "not my fault, gov!"
My next car will burn fossils. There's still no genuinely useable alternative.There ought to be a useable alternative, and gas guzzling cars should be restricted. However more attention should be paid to domestic heating and industry - which are still major users of fossil fuels.
I would hope that if you buy a car in a few years time that EVs would be more attractive. Things aren't all bad. EVs are beautifully quiet, and there are no fumes from petrol or diesel. When things work the running costs are relatively low - our recent trip cost around £20, but with a petrol vehicle it would have been over £100. However, we'd have to do a lot of miles to "recover" the additional cost of the EVs over petrol, diesel or other hybrids.
Plugin hybrids might still be a reasonable compromise - though I'm not sure that they are going to be allowed - and they do need to have a better everyday range. Most give out at around 30 miles.
However it does seem that Tesla are the ones who are able to provide decent infrastructure. Chargeplace Scotland appears to be run by some who couldn't do a booze up in a brewery.
I think I'll run our Peugeot out to make sure the brakes haven't rusted up - so far I think keeping it as a backup has made a lot of sense - though we don't use it much and it's a pain having to keep charging the battery up as it doesn't get as many runs as it used to.
Pigmy Pony
25-06-2021, 18:10
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I have also escalated the issue back to Arnold Clark Renault who sold us the car and the charger was included as an enticement to buy - but no response from them either. Not much point in having freebies from sellers if they don't work, eh! Everyone is going to pass the buck - "not my fault, gov!"
Threaten to remove their crappy yellow sticker from your back window - they don't like that, and it may sting them into action. But if you do try to move the sticker be prepared for some hard graft, those bastards are stuck like shit to a blanket.
Nothing I've seen in these pages have made me think EVs are a good thing, so when they become compulsory I'll be making use of my bus pass and using supermarket deliveries.
It'll never happen in our lifetimes, bet any money.
They've got to upgrade the whole national grid if they want to supply 40 million vehicles with power all at the same time. How long is that going to take?
It'll never happen in our lifetimes, bet any money.
They've got to upgrade the whole national grid if they want to supply 40 million vehicles with power all at the same time. How long is that going to take?They are going to use the batteries in the cars to supply the grid at busy times. Cheap way to keep it going
Pigmy Pony
25-06-2021, 18:31
It'll never happen in our lifetimes, bet any money.
They've got to upgrade the whole national grid if they want to supply 40 million vehicles with power all at the same time. How long is that going to take?
Not to mention giving over huge swathes of Green Belt for "car parking" so that all those EVs can be charged while away from home. So I agree, by the time it becomes feasible I'll be past caring.
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 08:14
The government are just empty-headed dreamers, thinking it'll all just fall into place. Given that EVs in their current guise have been around for 13 years now, and really haven't taken much of the market at all, trying to get it all done and dusted by 2030 is nothing short of daydreaming.
The biggest problem is in the cities. There are millions of vehicles that are parked randomly on the streets nowhere near the owner's property, each of those will need a charging point, so that means every point will need the ability to attribute the cost to the correct person. Then there's the installation of 40 million charging points, the cabling alone would run into millions of miles.
Then there's the hook up cabling for each vehicle. All over the pavements would be trailing cables, getting tangled up with pushchairs and pensioners (people are always inconsiderate when it comes to tidiness off their property). Inevitably as the cost of copper skyrockets due to the amount required for all this cabling, the theft of cables would be exceptionally prevalent. So then an infrastructure would be necessary for repairs and replacements - but already as Dave has mentioned, it seems to be very troublesome to get a charger repaired already, and this is when the market should be shit hot and proactive in order to promote sales.
Whilst in essence I do believe EVs are excellent; economical, ecological and let's face it, fast, to get the whole country buying only EVs in 2030 is a joke. As most cars have a life of 10-15 years, the expectation is that almost all vehicles will be EVs by 2045, so the entire infrastructure has to be installed, reliable, working and without fault by then. It essentially has to be as reliable as an IC engine and a petrol station - which is a hard act to follow as frankly a modern car is a well polished tool.
Marco is always polishing his;)
The government are just empty-headed dreamers, thinking it'll all just fall into place. Given that EVs in their current guise have been around for 13 years now, and really haven't taken much of the market at all, trying to get it all done and dusted by 2030 is nothing short of daydreaming.
No the government are cynics, that's why the target dates for these things are always years in the future. They set that target date because they know in all likelihood it will be some other administration's problem by the time it comes around.
In the meantime if questioned about their 'green credentials' they can say 'well look, we've set a target date, what more do you want?'
The empty headed dreamers are the ones who think it is somehow possible to combine a consumer economy and lifestyle with some sort of zero-pollution, eco-friendly, rural idyll when the two are mutually excusive. The real choice is to either say fuck it and carry on as we are, or go back to living in the bushes and eating berries and nuts.
dave2010
26-06-2021, 09:13
The biggest problem is in the cities. There are millions of vehicles that are parked randomly on the streets nowhere near the owner's property, each of those will need a charging point, so that means every point will need the ability to attribute the cost to the correct person. Then there's the installation of 40 million charging points, the cabling alone would run into millions of miles.Why would 40 million charging points be required? That would assume perhaps a 1:1 ratio between vehicles and chargers. Many people would have chargers at home (:doh: - but consider the reliability ..... !!!) which typically require no more than 15 metres of cable from the consumer unit to the charger, plus maybe another 3-5 metres to attach to the vehicle. That's about 80 times less cable than you have thought. That's also assuming that many people are still going to commute into cities - which happens in some - but is totally bonkers for cities like London, where many people use public transport.
Then there's the hook up cabling for each vehicle. All over the pavements would be trailing cables, getting tangled up with pushchairs and pensioners (people are always inconsiderate when it comes to tidiness off their property). Inevitably as the cost of copper skyrockets due to the amount required for all this cabling, the theft of cables would be exceptionally prevalent. So then an infrastructure would be necessary for repairs and replacements - but already as Dave has mentioned, it seems to be very troublesome to get a charger repaired already, and this is when the market should be shit hot and proactive in order to promote sales.
Dedicated areas for charging would be required which would reduce some of the issues re pushchairs and pensioners. These would probably be on the sites of existing petrol stations. Re stealing cables - yes - it probably will happen, though perhaps the hazards of taking cables while live would deter some. Idiots like the ones who try to bring down overhead railway cables or even high voltage grid cables can try to reach gold status in the Darwin awards.
Whilst in essence I do believe EVs are excellent; economical, ecological and let's face it, fast, to get the whole country buying only EVs in 2030 is a joke. As most cars have a life of 10-15 years, the expectation is that almost all vehicles will be EVs by 2045, so the entire infrastructure has to be installed, reliable, working and without fault by then. It essentially had to be as reliable as an IC engine and a petrol station - which is a hard act to follow as frankly a modern car is a well polished tool.Reliability of EVs is yet to be tested - though I think they are reliable. Public charger reliability I'd put at lower than 50% currently, with some out of action, and many different types with next to no instructions or contact details as to how to use them. Even simple things like making sure that the displays are visible aren't dealt with. On dark days it is possible to read the instructions off the displays, but on sunny days those are completely unreadable. What is wrong with having printed instructions attached to the chargers? Oh - yes - I suppose one has to know all the variants and do searches on mobile phones for the instructions of the more esoteric ones. Then there are units which have to have an emergency reset button pressed to kick them back into life each time - something not known by every driver. Not a good thing. Some units have plug ends which are locked in, and getting them released can be tricky. Sometimes it's brute force, sometimes there are hidden buttons to press, and sometimes the locks are released by a key code or card action. One gradually builds experience of these - but it's basically pathetic.
Our Zoe recently had an annual "service" - cost about £120. What on earth was done? The only identifiable change was a new filter - cost about £20. No itemised invoice detail of what was done, or what checks were carried out. Not even a report on the brakes which is something which could wear or require adjustment. Oiling? Not sure. It did require an adjustment to a seat a little while back, as it was making a squeaky noise.
The Model 3 has not had any service at a depot, but has had to be reset a few times. It's still a love/hate car. At its best it's really lovely.
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 09:29
To answer the 40 million chargers question...
Homes
Workplaces
Hotels
Holiday lets
Car parks
Roadside parking
Service stations
Supermarkets
All these places need chargers, and really at home it's one per vehicle as most will need charging simultaneously. It's no good having one charger for multiple vehicles.
In the three houses next to and opposite mine, and including mine too, there are eleven cars, with more to come as kids grow up. Multiply that over just the households in the UK as at this year (let's assume 28,000,000): even if there are only an average of two cars per household, that's immediately 56,000,000 chargers, without the other places mentioned.
It'll need to be one serious network.
yeah but very few folk will charge every night at home. still, there is about 25% of homes without off street parking. So thats a lot of other charging on street. Another issue will be sorting out who gets to use an on street or car park one. if you leave car and its charged, and you dont come back then no-one else can use it.
Then there is reliability, vandalism and theft of cables, which is apparently already quite high
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 09:44
But they will. If cars are in use every day then they need to be charged at night.
A mobile phone is a prime example. Think of one household trying to share one charger. Ain't going to happen, and phones are the pinnacle of battery technology.
On a daily basis, cars in the UK drive an average of 20 miles a day, 142 miles a week, 617 miles a month and 7,400 miles a year. At that level a charge will last all week for most cars. Obviously plenty will do more(and may be in the multi car households.) The power companies did state that cars plugged in during peak times may have their electricity removed from batteries to boost needs then topped back up later when power isnt being used.
why would you plug your car in if you didn't want to charge it up? That makes no sense.
There's already a demand problem when everyone goes to make a cup of tea at half-time, how will it work when everyone is charging their car in the evening, which is the same as everyone boiling ten kettles each, all at the same time, and for most of the night?
dave2010
26-06-2021, 12:12
To answer the 40 million chargers question...
Homes
Workplaces
Hotels
Holiday lets
Car parks
Roadside parking
Service stations
Supermarkets
All these places need chargers, and really at home it's one per vehicle as most will need charging simultaneously. It's no good having one charger for multiple vehicles.
In the three houses next to and opposite mine, and including mine too, there are eleven cars, with more to come as kids grow up. Multiply that over just the households in the UK as at this year (let's assume 28,000,000): even if there are only an average of two cars per household, that's immediately 56,000,000 chargers, without the other places mentioned.
I'm not disagreeing that 40 million (or more) chargers might be "required" - just that that doesn't equate to 40 million miles of cable.
Having one charger for multiple vehicles can be OK, as long as they don't all require a zero to full charge every day. It would, of course, be a bummer if several need charging at the same time, or if the charger becomes useless - as has ours currently - single point of failure - not good.
Public chargers can be a fall back, but they're not attractive if the cost per KwH pushes the price per mile closer to a fossil fuel car.
I'm not quite as pessimistic as Macca - things don't have to be all or nothing. The total UK energy bill should drop if EVs replace fossil fuel cars - but at the same time capacity for electricity production and distribution would have to be stepped up.
Another option is to reduce people's enthusiasm for sex, so that there are fewer people "requiring" all this activity.
why would you plug your car in if you didn't want to charge it up? That makes no sense.
There's already a demand problem when everyone goes to make a cup of tea at half-time, how will it work when everyone is charging their car in the evening, which is the same as everyone boiling ten kettles each, all at the same time, and for most of the night?
Well you may plug it in to say charge it up in middle of night(these things have timers) or you may want it to heat car up in morning for you which it can do when plugged in and it wont impact on your charge status.
But if even you plug in at say 7pm to charge it, and say th grid is struggling it may snatch some of your power in battery, and then replace it later.
Certainly in winter you would likely want it plugged in in morning to heat seats and defrost etc.
dave2010
26-06-2021, 12:40
Well you may plug it in to say charge it up in middle of night(these things have timers) or you may want it to heat car up in morning for you which it can do when plugged in and it wont impact on your charge status.
But if even you plug in at say 7pm to charge it, and say th grid is struggling it may snatch some of your power in battery, and then replace it later.
Certainly in winter you would likely want it plugged in in morning to heat seats and defrost etc.There are tariffs which work if cars are plugged in for long periods - for example Octopus. In theory the deal is that they offer a low rate per KwH - in return for allowing the grid to suck back energy if other demand is high. The small print does have to be examined very carefully though, plus the cycling of the batteries is likely to reduce their effectiveness over time. Currently the evidence is that charging an EV purely for driving purposes doesn't cause unacceptably high battery degradation, but using car batteries as a reserve for the national grid will almost inevitably cause more rapid turn over of batteries - and at additional cost to their owners.
Depending on the small print and rates some of these "cheap" tariff deals are not actually competitive compared to the cheapest options, but of course YMMV. One deal requires a user to install a Tesla battery pack at home as well - but on investigation that turns out to be around a fifth of the capacity of an EV car battery (13-15kWh vs 75kWh estimated for a Tesla Model 3) - and at a cost of over £6k the marginal savings would take forever to recover the installation cost.
EVs and chargers do have timers, but they are not all very effective or sensible. I hear that some apps on mobile phones can work also - but that's introducing yet more complication. For example, on a Tesla it's possible to set a charge start time, but not an end time. Tesla argue that this doesn't matter as generally the charge can be fast enough that all or most of a charge can be done overnight in the off peak tariff period. That doesn't work if one is forced to use a very slow charger (so called "granny charger") which is where we are at at the moment because of the wall charger failure.
Another option which works for some cars - such as Teslas - is to eat out at a place which has a destination charger, so that one's car gets charged up while one is eating - and hopefully the cost of the charge will be absorbed in the cost of a meal. That doesn't necessarily work for other makes of car though, which one could argue gives Tesla a competitive advantage, or alternatively an unreasonable stranglehold on the EV distribution network.
I'm not disagreeing that 40 million (or more) chargers might be "required" - just that that doesn't equate to 40 million miles of cable.
Having one charger for multiple vehicles can be OK, as long as they don't all require a zero to full charge every day. It would, of course, be a bummer if several need charging at the same time, or if the charger becomes useless - as has ours currently - single point of failure - not good.
Public chargers can be a fall back, but they're not attractive if the cost per KwH pushes the price per mile closer to a fossil fuel car.
I'm not quite as pessimistic as Macca - things don't have to be all or nothing. The total UK energy bill should drop if EVs replace fossil fuel cars - but at the same time capacity for electricity production and distribution would have to be stepped up.
Another option is to reduce people's enthusiasm for sex, so that there are fewer people "requiring" all this activity.
I'm not pessimistic, just realistic. I like the idea, less pollution in the immediate environment and much less noise. But the idea that it's possible for everyone to have one is a pipe dream.
Also re the 'energy bill' - fossil fuel is cheap, it's the duty that makes petrol and diesel expensive. If everyone stopped using fossil fuels what's the drop in tax revenue going to be? Where will they make up the shortfall? Taxing electricity.
yeah, the tesla chargers seem to be the best(or quickest) and seem to be a decent networfk... Not available anyway on the mobility tho.. Ive pretty much decided to either keep one i have or just get an ice. cost will depend on which and what.. need to wait til q3 comes to see costs etc as they change regularly; bpth price and models(they are often models that are not shifting as quick)
I think this next one may be my last the way things are going
Pigmy Pony
26-06-2021, 14:18
why would you plug your car in if you didn't want to charge it up? That makes no sense.
There's already a demand problem when everyone goes to make a cup of tea at half-time, how will it work when everyone is charging their car in the evening, which is the same as everyone boiling ten kettles each, all at the same time, and for most of the night?
The electricity companies could invest in massive diesel generators to provide electricity for EVs during peak times. When all ICE vehicles are banned there should be plenty of fuel knocking about doing nothing. Or am I being naive? :)
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 14:32
I'm not disagreeing that 40 million (or more) chargers might be "required" - just that that doesn't equate to 40 million miles of cable.
Having one charger for multiple vehicles can be OK, as long as they don't all require a zero to full charge every day. It would, of course, be a bummer if several need charging at the same time, or if the charger becomes useless - as has ours currently - single point of failure - not good.
Public chargers can be a fall back, but they're not attractive if the cost per KwH pushes the price per mile closer to a fossil fuel car.
I'm not quite as pessimistic as Macca - things don't have to be all or nothing. The total UK energy bill should drop if EVs replace fossil fuel cars - but at the same time capacity for electricity production and distribution would have to be stepped up.
Another option is to reduce people's enthusiasm for sex, so that there are fewer people "requiring" all this activity.
I didn't say it did equates to 40 million miles of cable. Have a re-read if the post. I just said 'millions'.
Filterlab
26-06-2021, 14:34
Why would 40 million charging points be required? That would assume perhaps a 1:1 ratio between vehicles and chargers.
Read my post again Dave. And then read my further posts.
It's helpful if you actually read rather than make up things and attribute them to me.
The electricity companies could invest in massive diesel generators to provide electricity for EVs during peak times. When all ICE vehicles are banned there should be plenty of fuel knocking about doing nothing. Or am I being naive? :)
No you're not - the backup plan for wind power after they closed all the proper power stations was to have fields full of diesel generators. I'm not joking. I don't know if they're still going to do that, it was a few years ago now.
No you're not - the backup plan for wind power after they closed all the proper power stations was to have fields full of diesel generators. I'm not joking. I don't know if they're still going to do that, it was a few years ago now.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/06/diesel-farms-national-grid-tax-breaks
Pigmy Pony
26-06-2021, 14:55
No you're not - the backup plan for wind power after they closed all the proper power stations was to have fields full of diesel generators. I'm not joking. I don't know if they're still going to do that, it was a few years ago now.
Blimey! I was only kidding, turns out I'm quite intelligent after all!
Firebottle
26-06-2021, 16:41
There's hope for you yet Steve :rolleyes:
dave2010
26-06-2021, 17:49
Read my post again Dave. And then read my further posts.
It's helpful if you actually read rather than make up things and attribute them to me.I apologise - you did write 40 million charging points - also somewhat speculative, but the inference about millions of miles of extra cabling is very probably incorrect - unless you are considering other aspects. If 40 million chargers are actually "required" then it should be possible to do that with around one million or so miles of additional cable - maybe less.
Anyway just had an "interesting" discussion down at a charger which I found - possibly free. A couple turned up with a Zoe looking for a top up charge to get them to their destination. Turns out they intended to arrive in this area yesterday, but the cable they used to charge the car at their last stop would not release from the car, so they had to book a room and stay overnight. Not good!
dave2010
26-06-2021, 17:53
I didn't say it did equates to 40 million miles of cable. Have a re-read if the post. I just said 'millions'..... and I'm suggesting that it's actually going to be a million or less.
dave2010
27-06-2021, 09:21
I found this rather unusual EV - https://www.engadget.com/hands-on-citroen-ami-ev-133032057.html
2 chairs.. one for each cheek :eyebrows:
I found this rather unusual EV - https://www.engadget.com/hands-on-citroen-ami-ev-133032057.html
It's uglier than a French whore.
dave2010
27-06-2021, 09:30
It's uglier than a French whore.
... and how do you know?
Only slighly more expensive, perhaps.
:)
walpurgis
27-06-2021, 09:36
I found this rather unusual EV - https://www.engadget.com/hands-on-citroen-ami-ev-133032057.html
I wonder if the dustmen try to empty it? :)
Pigmy Pony
27-06-2021, 09:56
I found this rather unusual EV - https://www.engadget.com/hands-on-citroen-ami-ev-133032057.html
:lol: I can't believe they felt it necessary to fit a lock on it
walpurgis
27-06-2021, 15:31
I'd like this motorbike. 1937 OK 'Supreme' 350cc OHC, very nice! It'd be better all black though :).
https://motorcycles-for-sale.biz/sale.php?id=7667
Pigmy Pony
27-06-2021, 15:41
I'd like this motorbike. 1937 OK 'Supreme' 350cc OHC, very nice! It'd be better all black though :).
https://motorcycles-for-sale.biz/sale.php?id=7667
Give you an excuse to wear them goggles in public without getting all those funny looks. Just think - you could fit a sidecar and put the dog in it, also wearing goggles :)
I used to know a girl who had an ancient Panther 600 single, which looked very similar. And it was all black, you would have liked it.
walpurgis
27-06-2021, 16:19
I used to know a girl who had an ancient Panther 600 single, which looked very similar. And it was all black, you would have liked it.
Not sure about that. The Panther Model 100 was a bugger to kick-start, nose heavy and slow, sounded good though. A mate had one.
It's uglier than a French whore.
If I was 14 and had been given the 'car', I would have been delighted.
It's very difficult to design 'city cars' to look stylish. Perhaps the Italians might be able to do it. But to have the ability to park in tight spaces and not take up too much space, they will all tend to to look squat and boxy - and hence ugly.
If I was 14 and had been given the 'car', I would have been delighted.
It's very difficult to design 'city cars' to look stylish. Perhaps the Italians might be able to do it. But to have the ability to park in tight spaces and not take up too much space, they will all tend to to look squat and boxy - and hence ugly.
When I was fourteen I was delighted to get a club biscuit. You'd have to be an unimaginably spoilt teenager not to be delighted with it. It's just way uglier than it needs to be. It looks like someone has nicked the wheel trims for a start.
Look at the front of it. It looks like the car everyone would be driving in some sort of awful Orwellian future.
I'm surprised it doesn't have 'bumpers'. That's how the French park their cars in the Paris side streets - they see a possible space, bump gently into the car in front, pushing it forward a couple of inches, then reverse and do the same for the car behind, repeating the process until they have room to park.
Everything about the Citroen EV is designed to make it cheap to manufacture; identical doors; front and back panels essentially the same; and the lack of wheel trim. I would expect the interior to be equally Spartan. However I'm not sure if I would want to pay £5,000 for one.
It looks like the car everyone would be driving in some sort of awful Orwellian future.
That would be a Messershmitt
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/aa/e2/25aae214672eb05a1bb659cea9c9991d.jpg
https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com/images/car_info/messerschmitt_bubble_car.jpg
If I was 14 and had been given the 'car', I would have been delighted.
It's very difficult to design 'city cars' to look stylish. Perhaps the Italians might be able to do it. But to have the ability to park in tight spaces and not take up too much space, they will all tend to to look squat and boxy - and hence ugly.
Well, the answer's easy... Don't live in a city, thus be able to drive something half decent!:D;)
Marco.
When I was fourteen I was delighted to get a club biscuit. You'd have to be an unimaginably spoilt teenager not to be delighted with it.
My old man had a shop full of them, including almost every other biscuit, sweet, crisp, lolly, ice-cream, you name it, so I wouldn't have been 'delighted' to get one!...:ner::nono::facepull:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
29-06-2021, 06:06
When I was fourteen I was delighted to get a club biscuit. You'd have to be an unimaginably spoilt teenager not to be delighted with it. It's just way uglier than it needs to be. It looks like someone has nicked the wheel trims for a start.
Look at the front of it. It looks like the car everyone would be driving in some sort of awful Orwellian future.
It has the surprised look of a car that's had "a banana in the tailpipe" :eek:
Pigmy Pony
29-06-2021, 06:10
My old man had a shop full of them, including almost every other biscuit, sweet, crisp, lolly, ice-cream, you name it, so I wouldn't have been 'delighted' to get one!...:ner::nono::facepull:
Marco.
Ah, that explains your shape :D
Municipal dustcart circa 1955 - that's what it looks liken to me. The Messerschmitt at least has some design flair
https://i.ibb.co/ckLF7Gj/car.webp (https://ibb.co/pbyz9tS)
It's basically a rip-off of the Zundapp 'Janus' from the 1950s. Only uglier and with missing wheel trims.
https://i.ibb.co/7bMj687/Rare-1958-Zundapp-Janus-Microcar-For-Sale.jpg (https://ibb.co/YbnPqYv)
Ah, that explains your shape :D
Lol - there's nothing wrong with my shape, and you've seen pics of me when I was younger, and a slim, sexy stud:lol:;) when I had access to all those goodies on a daily basis, not to mention all manner of chips and fried foods!:ner:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
29-06-2021, 06:53
Lol - there's nothing wrong with my shape, and you've seen pics of me when I was younger, and a slim, sexy stud:lol:;) when I had access to all those goodies on a daily basis, not to mention all manner of chips and fried foods!:ner:
Marco.
Yeah but these things have a way of catching up with you eventually. And if you're thinking of posting a current pic as 'proof', be sure to include a known circular item in the photo, like a football, as I know you're a whizz with photo editing. A football that looks like a stood up rugby ball would be a dead giveaway ;)
Lol - there exists no catalyst to cause any such 'catch up'.
If you've read what I've written here on the subject (many times), you'll know that we (as in my parents and I) only ate fish and chips once a week, on a Friday.
Sweets and other forms of sugary snacks or crisps, ice-cream, etc, were strictly controlled/rationed by my parents [as they didn't want me turning into a wee fatty, such as is sadly all too often seen now among youngsters], so I never binged on crap:)
As I've said before, all that stuff was to sell to Brits and make pots of dosh from, in order to send me to prep school and generally keep me in the manner I was accustomed to!:ner:;)
Having enjoyed a healthy diet from day one of gracing this earth, is one of the reasons why I'm a healthy bastard now:D
Marco.
That would be a Messershmitt
https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com/images/car_info/messerschmitt_bubble_car.jpg
Del's always wanted one of those in red, as she thinks it's cute (calls it a 'dolly car'), as it's got what looks like a wee face on the front (the bonnet looks like eyes and a nose, and the reg plate a mouth):)
She's not having one, though!:D
Marco.
Would cost you a fortune to buy one anyway, even wrecks go for thousands.
walpurgis
29-06-2021, 08:53
She's not having one, though!:D
Marco.
Probably just as well, they are deathtraps! Nobody would survive even a moderate crash in one, assuming you could gain enough momentum to actually hit something. Check out the prices, they are in Range Rover territory, god knows why?
It's basically a rip-off of the Zundapp 'Janus' from the 1950s. Only uglier and with missing wheel trims.
https://i.ibb.co/7bMj687/Rare-1958-Zundapp-Janus-Microcar-For-Sale.jpg (https://ibb.co/YbnPqYv)
Well it was designed by Porsche. An interesting design for a 'bubble car', but obviously not as iconic as the Volkswagen 'Beetle'.
https://www.lanemotormuseum.org/collection/cars/item/zuendapp-janus-250-1956
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/qTKSMLdJBzvI9JcHr7iWDg--~B/aD0xMTI1O3c9MjAwMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2021-06/3b3c1c60-ce9b-11eb-aedb-a3480ad738e2.cf.jpg
or
https://i.ibb.co/7bMj687/Rare-1958-Zundapp-Janus-Microcar-For-Sale.jpg ?
Would cost you a fortune to buy one anyway, even wrecks go for thousands.
Yup, echoing what Barry has said. It would only have been a toy for her to go shopping in, as it's cute and she likes quirky things like that, but I'm not using our land to house a collection of mobile 'toys' that are simply impractical.
She'd have a double-decker (old-style) London bus [to 'play in'], a split-screen VW camper van and a Moggie Traveller too, if I let her, lol!
Marco.
dave2010
29-06-2021, 10:25
That would be a Messershmitt
https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com/images/car_info/messerschmitt_bubble_car.jpg
I remember those - ugly little things. The Italian bubblies looked much nicer. All three wheelers of course, and were they a match for Del Boy's Reliant Robin? I even had a ride in one of the Reliant Robins on a few occasions - interesting!
one of my sister's boyfriends' had a bubblecar. think he was called Herman or summat like that. Dad gave him a grilling over his intentions and he was never seen again:D
walpurgis
29-06-2021, 10:38
If you want a vintage three wheeler, there's only one choice for me. The Berkeley T60 with the 328cc Excelsior two stroke twin engine, they sounded good with a whine like an early SAAB two stroke car.
https://i.ibb.co/YWM7yPR/Screen-Shot-06-29-21-at-09-59-AM.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Firebottle
29-06-2021, 11:55
Oh now that looks classy Geoff.
I remember those - ugly little things. The Italian bubblies looked much nicer. All three wheelers of course, and were they a match for Del Boy's Reliant Robin? I even had a ride in one of the Reliant Robins on a few occasions - interesting!
IMO Reliant Robin 3-wheelers, with the steered wheel at the front are always going to be less stable than designs having two wheels at the front. But I could prove to be wrong.
BTW I only cited the Messershmitt, in reply to Martin's comment about the Citroen looking like something out of an Orwellian nightmare. The Messershmitt was used in Terry Gilliam's film 'Brazil', which is set in a dystopian, Orwellian universe.
If you want a vintage three wheeler, there's only one choice for me. The Berkeley T60 with the 328cc Excelsior two stroke twin engine, they sounded good with a whine like an early SAAB two stroke car.
https://i.ibb.co/YWM7yPR/Screen-Shot-06-29-21-at-09-59-AM.png (https://imgbb.com/)
I can't imagine why anyone would want a vintage three wheeler. :scratch:
Do these things have a reverse gear, or do you have to be very careful where you park it?
yeah it had a reverse gear and 4 forward ones. In their road test of October 1959, The Motor Cycle magazine described the car as "a fascinating, front-wheel-drive sports car which combines economy with liveliness and superb cornering."
was just reading the maker of the bond minicar, lawrie bond designed the berkley as well as all the 4 wheeler sports car he made.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Bond_Equipe_2_litre_first_registered_Jan_1969_1998 cc.JPG/420px-Bond_Equipe_2_litre_first_registered_Jan_1969_1998 cc.JPG
Bond Equipe 2-Litre Saloon
A couple of new batteries for my scooter.
Boy they are heavy [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210629/375fbab11b90f1a5ae4c3699f76bca93.jpg
Firebottle
29-06-2021, 17:11
Old tech Lead acid then, that'll keep your wheels to the floor.
Old tech Lead acid then, that'll keep your wheels to the floor.
yeah, well gel.those are 50ah.. deep cycle.
they are series wired to give 24v dc motor power. thus using half the current. ah stays same at 50ah
Pigmy Pony
29-06-2021, 19:24
was just reading the maker of the bond minicar, lawrie bond designed the berkley as well as all the 4 wheeler sports car he made.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Bond_Equipe_2_litre_first_registered_Jan_1969_1998 cc.JPG/420px-Bond_Equipe_2_litre_first_registered_Jan_1969_1998 cc.JPG
Bond Equipe 2-Litre Saloon
Would that be the maker of the "Bond Bug", that looked like a piece of cheese on three wheels?
Would that be the maker of the "Bond Bug", that looked like a piece of cheese on three wheels?Think it was made by reliant
Pigmy Pony
30-06-2021, 06:12
Think it was made by reliant
Just read up on it - designed by some bloke called Tom Karen, and initially built by Bond cars, then at Reliant's factory. A very tidy one for sale on Ebay, yours for £12,500. Looks like something Commander Straker's housekeeper would come to work in.
Just read up on it - designed by some bloke called Tom Karen, and initially built by Bond cars, then at Reliant's factory. A very tidy one for sale on Ebay, yours for £12,500. Looks like something Commander Straker's housekeeper would come to work in.
ah well, i was half right :eyebrows:
A couple of new batteries for my scooter.
Boy they are heavy [emoji23] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210629/375fbab11b90f1a5ae4c3699f76bca93.jpgGot these fitted so will try it out tomorrow hopefully. All lights are on at least so far. Need to see if this stays.
It's not a difficult job but I can't bend over to do it. [emoji23]
walpurgis
30-06-2021, 20:21
Why? This is daft! And a cheek.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/tesco-drivers-threaten-boycott-pay-5594145
Why? This is daft! And a cheek.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/tesco-drivers-threaten-boycott-pay-5594145
''Its not always easy to pay at a kiosk if you have a baby/toddler in the car.''
So what did everyone do before the 'pay at pump' facility was introduced? It only came in a couple of years ago FFS
Pigmy Pony
30-06-2021, 21:00
In that article, Tesco said it enables customers to know how much money is in their a I thought that was already the case, and that my being able to (potentially) put £99 in my tank meant I had at least £99. And that if I only had, say £30, that's how much fuel it would give me.
In that article, Tesco said it enables customers to know how much money is in their a I thought that was already the case, and that my being able to (potentially) put £99 in my tank meant I had at least £99. And that if I only had, say £30, that's how much fuel it would give me.
yes, i thought that too...they aint gonna say 99 quids worth if youve only got a tenner
I think the point is that if you don't have £99 in your account then you can't pay at the pump even if you've only put a tenner's worth in.
Doesn't seem to be any explanation as to why they have decided to impose this rule though.
walpurgis
01-07-2021, 08:17
I think the point is that if you don't have £99 in your account then you can't pay at the pump even if you've only put a tenner's worth in.
Doesn't seem to be any explanation as to why they have decided to impose this rule though.
It doesn't help that the number of 'pay at counter' pumps have been reduced. I generally pay by cash or card in the kiosk.
I think the point is that if you don't have £99 in your account then you can't pay at the pump even if you've only put a tenner's worth in.
Doesn't seem to be any explanation as to why they have decided to impose this rule though.
there was a few thoughts re this and no real answers. some say you'll only get what bank says you can use; others that, as you say youll get nowt if you dont have 90 in account.
They say its a trial, and i believe Asda tried this too as a trial and it caused such a furore that it got dumped
I only put in £30's worth when I fill up, and I always pay in the shop.
Agreed, these new checks are not clear, and is a warning of the possible consequences of a "cashless society". Eventually Banks will have total control over YOUR money. They already make a fortune by investing with, and loaning out, YOUR money.
In general I now tend to pay for everything with card as much as I can, but with the removal of external cash points and the closure of many banks is a sign of creeping control by the Banks over your financial affairs.
Got these fitted so will try it out tomorrow hopefully. All lights are on at least so far. Need to see if this stays.
It's not a difficult job but I can't bend over to do it. [emoji23]
given it a run.. maybe about 1/2 mile in total. all lights stayed on all way so looks like if fixed that issue. its only 4mp but does job
walpurgis
01-07-2021, 12:35
Hope you weren't popping wheelies. :)
Beobloke
01-07-2021, 12:52
I seldom use pay at pump any more. The £99 limit only fills the Rangey’s tank to about 3/4…
:(
Hope you weren't popping wheelies. :)
ha, at 4mph, not likely... still it gets you there and faster than i can hobble. now these batteries should give me really good range even at my weight.lol
Pigmy Pony
01-07-2021, 16:10
It doesn't help that the number of 'pay at counter' pumps have been reduced. I generally pay by cash or card in the kiosk.
i like to pay at the pump, because the pump is here in front of me, and the kiosk is all the way over there. If I go back to the old pay in kiosk I suppose the exercise will do me good.
i usually use the pump. its easier, quicker and envolves no interaction with anyone who may have a dose:lol:
gave car a run. went to a garage but decided not to get out..:rolleyes:
i like to pay at the pump, because the pump is here in front of me, and the kiosk is all the way over there. If I go back to the old pay in kiosk I suppose the exercise will do me good.
Lol... Almost no-one pays at the pump here, certainly that I've seen. Not even sure if that facility is offered much in stations around here..:hmm: They're certainly all over the place abroad, but not really round here.
In any case, it's not something I'd ever use, same as self-service checkouts at supermarkets, which I similarly boycott, as I like to be SERVED, and indeed am paying for the privilege!
Therefore, in a petrol station, I want to go into the shop, hand over my card or cash/loyalty card, and let the ASSISTANT do the rest. There's also hardly ever anyone at the station I use, so it's not as if I have to wait in a queue, so feck yer pay at the pump pish:nono:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
10-07-2021, 15:55
Lol... Almost no-one pays at the pump here, certainly that I've seen. Not even sure if that facility is offered much in stations around here..:hmm: They're certainly all over the place abroad, but not really round here.
In any case, it's not something I'd ever use, same as self-service checkouts at supermarkets, which I similarly boycott, as I like to be SERVED, and indeed am paying for the privilege!
Therefore, in a petrol station, I want to go into the shop, hand over my card or cash/loyalty card, and let the ASSISTANT do the rest. There's also hardly ever anyone at the station I use, so it's not as if I have to wait in a queue, so feck yer pay at the pump pish:nono:
Marco.
That might be fine where you live (where the most common mode of transport is still horse & cart, or a sheep with a saddle), but in the real world there are often queues in kiosks. So if you're so 'queue averse' your chosen payment method would be just plain wrong. I put the fuel in, pay the pump, and off I go. Zero queues. No masks. What could be simpler?
Perhaps you could tell us about the 'service' you expect (and receive) from the kiosk for your money :)
Lol - not standing at a pump, typing your bank details into a machine and having to negotiate various on-screen menus to make the payment), with someone glaring at you in the car behind (if the station is busy, as you say), wanting to use said pump to fill up? That would do my nut in:nono:
As I said, I'm not even sure there *exists* that facility in many stations here. However, now you've piqued my interest, I shall have a look next time!
And why does living in Wrexham not equate to 'the real world'? I wouldn't have thought that Preston, as a town, was much bigger?:)
Also, remember that I fill up the Brabster at off-peak times, when all the daftees are at work, which is one of the reasons why it's quiet!:ner:
Marco.
you just put your pin in and away you go mate.. its quicker and with me, great as ive not got to try and get over to booth:D
Each to his or her own, I guess. I'm just against all this automated pish, as it puts people out of jobs.
Bring back the days when public car parks were staffed by a wee man in a hut you gave your money to, and he issued you your ticket, ditto toll booths in motorways, instead of dropping coins (which you've always got to make sure you have in advance:rolleyes:) into a box...
Is that *really* progress? Give me MANNED services, everyday, over any automated shite!
And at petrol stations, what about if, like me, you have a loyalty card, so is there a facility for swiping that as well as making payment - and if so, that's another thing to have to do while you're stood there..
The loyalty card thing at Texaco stations is important to me, as with 500 points I get a £5 voucher off fuel, and with the Brabster, that doesn't take long to accumulate!:D
Marco.
yup you can use your card as you do in the kiosk. even get a reciept but sure if i was fit i would be happy to go to the girl in the box. but im happy to use the pump to pay; its not like your doing someone out of a jiob as she shas to press buttons etc in the kiosk
Yes, but for how much longer?;)
It'll get to the stage where you have to do everything yourself, perhaps via a smartphone, and there'll be no shop, no humans, no SOUL and no LIFE...:rolleyes:
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
10-07-2021, 17:38
Lol - not standing at a pump, typing your bank details into a machine and having to negotiate various on-screen menus to make the payment), with someone glaring at you in the car behind (if the station is busy, as you say), wanting to use said pump to fill up? That would do my nut in:nono:
As I said, I'm not even sure there *exists* that facility in many stations here. However, now you've piqued my interest, I shall have a look next time!
And why does living in Wrexham not equate to 'the real world'? I wouldn't have thought that Preston, as a town, was much bigger?:)
Also, remember that I fill up the Brabster at off-peak times, when all the daftees are at work, which is one of the reasons why it's quiet!:ner:
Marco.
That para in bold - wrong diddly wrong wrong! Here's how:
1. "Not standing at pump" - why, do Welsh pumps have seating?
2. "Typing your bank details" - a four digit pin number! Do you not do that when you pay by card in the kiosk? Or is one of the services your
kiosk assistant provide to key that in for you?
3. "Negotiating various on-screen menus to make the payment" - select a button "receipt wanted or not wanted"
4. "Someone glaring at you in the car behind (if it's busy)" - Since when did you care about that? And anyway, you go at off-peak times,
remember saying that?
You are right about one thing though, Preston and Wrecsam will be about the same size. But size isn't everything, as I'm sure plenty of women have told you :ner:
It must be crushing to be proven so wrong, so I'll throw you a not insignificant bone, a point I know you'll labour to death - pay at pump facilities is pretty much a supermarket thing :)
You still haven't told me about the services your kiosk assistant provides :eyebrows:
1. "Not standing at pump" - why, do Welsh pumps have seating?
Hahaha - aye, nice big sofas, mate, and free beer! Lol, the point is, I like being SERVED by a human being and don't want to be standing fiddling with cards and PIN numbers in the forecourt of a filling station. That's also why I *never* use ATMs in open public places...
Yes, there's another revelation! When I need cash, I use the ones inside the branch of my own bank, because when I conduct my financial business, I like some PRIVACY. I realise though it's difficult for you to fathom that, by stepping outside of the behaviour of today's masses, and so consider mine as weird, or perhaps even 'abnormal'.
2. "Typing your bank details" - a four digit pin number! Do you not do that when you pay by card in the kiosk? Or is one of the services your
kiosk assistant provide to key that in for you?
No, as I always like to keep my tank topped up (don't leave it until it's nearly empty like you, lol) I rarely go above the £45 limit for contactless, so I type in hee-haw and the nice man, who always welcomes me when I come in (unlike a machine), as I'm a regular customer, swipes my loyalty card, and off I pop!:lol:
3. "Negotiating various on-screen menus to make the payment" - select a button "receipt wanted or not wanted"
N/A, as I wouldn't entertain it.
4. "Someone glaring at you in the car behind (if it's busy)" - Since when did you care about that? And anyway, you go at off-peak times,
remember saying that?
Yes of course, but I'm talking about if I were somewhere busier than Wrexham (I do manage to escape now and then, lol), and if I were faced with having to suffer that sort of pish. In any case, as we've now established, it ain't ever gonna happen, because I never put supermarket fuel in the Brabsterl!!:D
I knew there was a reason why I'd never seen any of these pay at the pump things...
It must be crushing to be proven so wrong, so I'll throw you a not insignificant bone, a point I know you'll labour to death - pay at pump facilities is pretty much a supermarket thing
In terms of the former, how so? Your questions have been adequately answered, and besides, there's no right or wrong here - just equally valid but different mindsets/approaches to things:)
You still haven't told me about the services your kiosk assistant provides :eyebrows:
Depends whether I send Del in to pay or not!:lol:
Marco.
dave2010
10-07-2021, 21:41
Each to his or her own, I guess. I'm just against all this automated pish, as it puts people out of jobs.
Marco.Depends what the jobs are. We used to have a great guy at our local railway station. He'd always try to find the cheapest combination of tickets if we asked him nicely - though probably the railway company didn't like him doing that. Eventually they decided that they only needed someone in the early morning, so I guess he was "retired".
Also if jobs are just a way to get dosh, then as many people don't actually like their jobs, cutting those back isn't necessarily a bad thing. Trouble is that the companies that run things don't want to emply people for just a few hours per day, and and also pay them enough to live on. It isn't the machines which are the problem, but the management attitudes which don't use both labour and equipment cooperatively and effectively.
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 06:41
Yes of course, but I'm talking about if I were somewhere busier than Wrexham (I do manage to escape now and then, lol), and if I were faced with having to suffer that sort of pish. In any case, as we've now established, it ain't ever gonna happen, because I never put supermarket fuel in the Brabsterl!!:D
Marco.
"Del! Put down that Sudoku and keep your eyes peeled for a petrol station! The Brabster's tank has gone to three quarters full!"
"Seriously? It can't wait till we get back to Wrexham? It's got us to York and halfway back, surely we'll be ok?"
"Yeah but it might cost more than £45 to top up, and you know I hate touching those dirty Covid buttons! I only do contactless"
"Just put on those Marigolds I bought you for your birthday, and you'll be fine".
"I left them at home, on the bedside table, remember?"
"I'm trying not to remember. Shame you weren't doing contactless then. That poor sheep."
Depends what the jobs are. We used to have a great guy at our local railway station. He'd always try to find the cheapest combination of tickets if we asked him nicely - though probably the railway company didn't like him doing that. Eventually they decided that they only needed someone in the early morning, so I guess he was "retired".
Also if jobs are just a way to get dosh, then as many people don't actually like their jobs, cutting those back isn't necessarily a bad thing. Trouble is that the companies that run things don't want to emply people for just a few hours per day, and and also pay them enough to live on. It isn't the machines which are the problem, but the management attitudes which don't use both labour and equipment cooperatively and effectively.
Sure, the answer is never black or white, one or the other [the lazy/easy, often cheapest option], but rather seeking to create the BEST of BOTH worlds, by providing manned and automated systems, facilitating the required demands of the public when needed.
However, unfortunately that rarely happens, and the decisions made don't centre around what's best for the customer, but rather what's best for the companies concerned and their shareholders. Of course, that wouldn't be the case if the customers voted with their feet and simply refused to comply, as profits would soon decrease, but the general public too easily acquiesce and accept new policies, rather than refusing them and fighting for what they want instead!:rolleyes:
Everyone just falls into line like sheep, and so they get the 'progress' that they deserve...
Aside from jobs, dealing with less people and more machines, when conducting our daily lives, for me makes the whole experience more soulless, and simply serves to further dehumanise our society, which is becoming more devoid of human interaction everyday, to the point where the human race we've created is so painfully lacking in people skills, and with next to no personality.
The reality is, we're breeding robots now, not people, so heaven help us in future!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 07:05
Yes, there's another revelation! When I need cash, I use the ones inside the branch of my own bank, because when I conduct my financial business, I like some PRIVACY. I realise though it's difficult for you to fathom that, by stepping outside of the behaviour of today's masses, and so consider mine as weird, or perhaps even 'abnormal'.
Marco.
Almost missed this one - if you're already in your bank, why use their ATM? Why not go to the counter? You're reliance on technology is contributing to Doris behind the counter being 'retired' early :(
"Del! Put down that Sudoku and keep your eyes peeled for a petrol station! The Brabster's tank has gone to three quarters full!"
"Seriously? It can't wait till we get back to Wrexham? It's got us to York and halfway back, surely we'll be ok?"
"Yeah but it might cost more than £45 to top up, and you know I hate touching those dirty Covid buttons! I only do contactless"
"Just put on those Marigolds I bought you for your birthday, and you'll be fine".
"I left them at home, on the bedside table, remember?"
"I'm trying not to remember. Shame you weren't doing contactless then. That poor sheep."
:lolsign:
If we're going on a long journey, we always fill up at our local Texaco station before we go (and a full tank in the Brabster is good for the best part of 600 miles), not only to avoid having to stop anywhere for fuel, but to ensure that the car runs on the fuel that it performs best on, and also to maximise our reward points.
Then when we return, the tank is immediately filled up at the same place. In that respect, there's been nothing else in it but Texaco Supreme diesel, since we took the car to Italy four years ago!:D
And so the only time the car runs on less than half a tank of fuel is when we're a long way from home, otherwise there's always at least that much in it or more. Btw, I also often pay by cash at filling stations, so no need to touch any buttons then either;)
Marco.
Almost missed this one - if you're already in your bank, why use their ATM? Why not go to the counter? You're reliance on technology is contributing to Doris behind the counter being 'retired' early :(
Indeed, but it's usually quicker to use the ATMs, as there's invariably a queue to see the one (or maximum) two members of staff operating the counter, such as the times we're in now where machines are slowly (but surely) replacing people - and I've got my lunch to go back to!:D
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 07:30
Aside from jobs, dealing with less people and more machines, when conducting our daily lives, for me makes the whole experience more soulless, and simply serves to further dehumanise our society, which is becoming more devoid of human interaction everyday, to the point where the human race we've created is so painfully lacking in people skills, and with next to no personality.
Marco.
Re. your comments about using ATMs in banks, instead of counter staff, this is what my previous post should have been replying to. We are all guilty of this to some degree. :( Don't forget to wave at Doris next time you're using their ATM, she won't be there much longer.
Yes, but it's all a question of balance. I'm hardly ever in the bank, so my behaviour will have minimal impact on such outcomes. If you want something to blame for bank staff losing their jobs, blame the Internet, as most folks now conduct their transactions online!
Marco.
most banks here are or have closed
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 08:28
Yes, but it's all a question of balance. I'm hardly ever in the bank, so my behaviour will have minimal impact on such outcomes. If you want something to blame for bank staff losing their jobs, blame the Internet, as most folks now conduct their transactions online!
Marco.
Absolutely, and Mrs. P is guilty of that. Not me, I have no money :(
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 08:39
most banks here are or have closed
Same here, and my nearest RBS is Preston town centre, 10 miles away, so balls to that.
A couple of years ago, a customer paid me by cheque, and having no paying in book I had to go to the bank rather than Post office. 10 miles of diesel each way, and 2 quid for parking. for a sixty quid cheque.
Sat on the pavement outside the bank was a homeless dude with a dog on a string. I went across the road to the bakery and bought him a pie and a coffee (not giving him cash :nono:) which was another 3 quid. So about 20% of my cheque gone, along with two hours of my day.
I suspect the rising popularity of internet banking, along with branch closures, is driven not by customer preferences, but by corporate greed :( but what can you do? They're all the same, so voting with your feet isn't an option
Same here, and my nearest RBS is Preston town centre, 10 miles away, so balls to that.
A couple of years ago, a customer paid me by cheque, and having no paying in book I had to go to the bank rather than Post office. 10 miles of diesel each way, and 2 quid for parking. for a sixty quid cheque.
Sat on the pavement outside the bank was a homeless dude with a dog on a string. I went across the road to the bakery and bought him a pie and a coffee (not giving him cash :nono:) which was another 3 quid. So about 20% of my cheque gone, along with two hours of my day.
I suspect the rising popularity of internet banking, along with branch closures, is driven not by customer preferences, but by corporate greed :( but what can you do? They're all the same, so voting with your feet isn't an option
son is with tsb. they just closed too. gonna have a pop up bank every now and then apparently. sad days but i suppose they are expensive to run... a web site is easier.
dave2010
11-07-2021, 10:06
son is with tsb. they just closed too. gonna have a pop up bank every now and then apparently. sad days but i suppose they are expensive to run... a web site is easier.I opened an account with the Coop. I expected a welcome pack through the post, telling me how to do the online banking. Nothing!
I phoned up and was told - oh - you just go online and get it set up. Download the app on your phone and you'll be good to go.
Totally useless, it was not easy - and basically didn't work, and now they have over £1000 of my money which I can't get at easily. I don't mind some online banking, but I do like the systems to work.
I'm not sure if there are any Coop branches in Scotland, so i may have to wait until I'm next time I'm somewhere in England to try to get this sorted.
The local TSB branch has closed - another nuisance, and Santander is somewhat variable. I'm not sure if I can still do the online stuff with them. It was working fine a couple of years ago with codes, but then they decided to change the interface and the login procedure.
As for systems which use 2nd factor authentication - total ***** nuisance.
Procedure:
1. Start to login on one machine.
2. Get a notification that there'll be a code on a mobile phone.
3. Find mobile phone
4. Get a notification that the code has now expired.
5. Try again on the first machine. Now code doesn't appear on mobile phone as lousy mobile phone signal.
6. Go into garden to find code.
7. Go back and enter code. Now the code has expired again.
8. As above steps 5-7 - but try to do it all quicker.
9. Give up - throw all the technology stuff into nearest dumpster!
Modifications of above:
3a: ***** mobile phone battery has run down ...
3b: Charge up mobile phone
3c: Try whole *** thing again an hour later.
I opened an account with the Coop. I expected a welcome pack through the post, telling me how to do the online banking. Nothing!
I phoned up and was told - oh - you just go online and get it set up. Download the app on your phone and you'll be good to go.
Totally useless, it was not easy - and basically didn't work, and now they have over £1000 of my money which I can't get at easily. I don't mind some online banking, but I do like the systems to work.
I'm not sure if there are any Coop branches in Scotland, so i may have to wait until I'm next time I'm somewhere in England to try to get this sorted.
The local TSB branch has closed - another nuisance, and Santander is somewhat variable. I'm not sure if I can still do the online stuff with them. It was working fine a couple of years ago with codes, but then they decided to change the interface and the login procedure.
As for systems which use 2nd factor authentication - total ***** nuisance.
Procedure:
1. Start to login on one machine.
2. Get a notification that there'll be a code on a mobile phone.
3. Find mobile phone
4. Get a notification that the code has now expired.
5. Try again on the first machine. Now code doesn't appear on mobile phone as lousy mobile phone signal.
6. Go into garden to find code.
7. Go back and enter code. Now the code has expired again.
8. As above steps 5-7 - but try to do it all quicker.
9. Give up - throw all the technology stuff into nearest dumpster!
Modifications of above:
3a: ***** mobile phone battery has run down ...
3b: Charge up mobile phone
3c: Try whole *** thing again an hour later.
think there is only one branch in scotland now.. gordon st in glasgow; near queen st station
most banks here are or have closed
Fortunately, not here. Pretty much every one is still represented in town: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1RFPM_enGB708GB709&tbs=lf:1,lf_ui:3&tbm=lcl&q=list+of+banks+in+wrexham&rflfq=1&num=10&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiT8K6X59rxAhVOgFwKHcm4DEAQjGp6BAgFED0&biw=1283&bih=607&dpr=1.5#rlfi=hd:;si:;mv:[[53.118357540155536,-2.7644864884208697],[53.024915550333745,-3.0607740250419635],null,[53.07166188996705,-2.9126302567314166],12]
We're with the Nat West, which we can walk to in 10 mins, or drive to in 3 mins. We seem to be pretty fortunate living where we do, as whenever I hear of 'the effects of consumerism and/or commercialism having eroded the quality of life elsewhere, Wrexham is often blissfully exempt.
It's not perfect, although nowhere is, but all in all, it's a nice place to live, with pretty much everything you need on your doorstep, a good indoor market and still plenty of privately owned shops, owned by the same family for years:)
Marco.
Absolutely, and Mrs. P is guilty of that. Not me, I have no money :(
Lol... We both have her own money, but that doesn't stop Del also spending much of mine!:doh:
'I WANT [whatever stuff]...', lol... I really don't mind though, as she's worth it:)
Marco.
Lol... We both have her own money, but that doesn't stop Del also spending much of mine!:doh:
'I WANT [whatever stuff]...', lol... I really don't mind though, as she's worth it:)
Marco.
was that a freudian slip?? lol
Lol, defo! The reality must've been in my mind when I typed it:D
It's a joint account, which of course her wages go into, but that doesn't stop her from expecting to be bought stuff, and fund the princess' shopping trips!
Marco.
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 11:49
Off out now, looking at cars, as Mrs. P has decided it's time for a change. I don't expect to find anything as our requirements are quite specific, and all we can agree on is Audi A5 or Jaguar XF, 3 litre V6 jobbies. I'd be happy with a Merc, but all the ones she likes are too dear.
Sounds like fun - enjoy!:cool:
Marco.
Off out now, looking at cars, as Mrs. P has decided it's time for a change. I don't expect to find anything as our requirements are quite specific, and all we can agree on is Audi A5 or Jaguar XF, 3 litre V6 jobbies. I'd be happy with a Merc, but all the ones she likes are too dear.
good luck with that.. I quite liked the look of the Q3, and the X1 from bmw. but not had chance to get too close.. My sis in law is on to her second X3.. she loves it.
Pigmy Pony
11-07-2021, 16:15
good luck with that.. I quite liked the look of the Q3, and the X1 from bmw. but not had chance to get too close.. My sis in law is on to her second X3.. she loves it.
A work colleague had a Q3, maybe still has it. Came round showing it off, and it was very nice. The headlights were a bit strange, they 'look' sideways as you turn a corner!
Interesting comparisons on car size now and apparently insurance is higher if you keep a car in a garage as opposed to driveway..
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-9769245/Modern-cars-big-garages-saves-drivers-160-year.html
A work colleague had a Q3, maybe still has it. Came round showing it off, and it was very nice. The headlights were a bit strange, they 'look' sideways as you turn a corner!Yes a lot of higher spec cars have this look round corners thing. I've never tried it tho
Just been to top up the tank in the Brabster, and given what we were discussing recently about petrol stations, I thought I'd snap a couple of pics from the place I use locally (less than 5 mins drive from my door).. As you can see I could hardly move for the crowds!:D
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/kawFac.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/GEsLxQ.jpg
Brabster at the front... A blissfully serene and relaxed experience, in all respects, including the friendly 'Hello, how are you today, sir?' I was greeted with by the lovely man in the shop, whilst he took the contactless payment and processed my reward points.
In and out in less than 3 mins, minus time for taking the pics, and now home for breakfast!:cool:
Marco.
P.S Note the lack of any 'pay at the pump' bollox;)
Anyone alive?:hmm::D
Marco.
film finished :eyebrows: yes looks quiet. we have a bp station thats usually quiet like that.. on a busy rd too. Think most now use the supermarkets. petrol was 1.32 last time i looked.. makes evs seem like a good idea sometimes lol
rmcin626
14-07-2021, 11:18
133.9 per litre locally, Tesco, Morrison’s, or there are a couple of BP places which are a couple of pence more expensive
Film? Strange time to be watching a film, mate:D
Anyway, hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, BP's always the dearest fuel. No idea why, but that's certainly been my experience. Texaco's not cheap either, especially the stuff I use, but as I hardly do any miles, especially now, price is a non-issue.
I put in just shy of £40, to top up the tank from just over half empty, and that'll do me for a least a month, often 6 weeks.
The station's bang in the middle of Wrexham town centre, and I've never seen it much busier, although I do go at off-peak times. However, if folks want to use supermarkets, and that keeps the station I use nice and quiet, then it suits me just fine!:eyebrows:
I also like, and very much value, the 'human touch', and being SERVED by someone with a friendly and cheery disposition, which of course is non-existent when serving yourself at the pump. It just makes the experience so much nicer, don't you think?:)
Especially when the world today is gradually being stripped of many forms of niceness - and you can enjoy these simple pleasures when you don't have to run around like a headless chicken, lol;)
Marco.
saw a filling station in Liverpool at the weekend that's completely automated, no staff or kiosk at all. What used to be the kiosk is bricked up. Welcome to the future.
Exactly! Utterly dreadful... Well, I hope that 'the future' stays well away from here for as long as possible!!
:exactly:
Marco.
if my car was a performance one i'd likely use a fancier fuel, but toyota say bog standard stuff is all it needs. the injection system adapts to what its burning, temp humidity etc.
saw a filling station in Liverpool at the weekend that's completely automated, no staff or kiosk at all. What used to be the kiosk is bricked up. Welcome to the future.
the asda station a few miles away was all automated. ive only used it once or twice and that was yrs ago. But i think it was designed that way.
walpurgis
14-07-2021, 12:11
I topped my car up a week back. I had to put over half a tankful in, so that was £17 quid's worth :).
That'll last me until autumn.
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