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rmcin626
04-05-2019, 13:30
:yay::yay::yay::champagne::champagne::champagne::m ex:
YA DANCER!!!!!
Championes, Championes, Olé, Olé, Olé
WELL DONE BHOYS!!!
:clapclapclap::clapclapclap:
I'm deliriously happy!!!!!:D:D
Marco.
Many congratulations Marco, hopefully we will give you more of a challenge next season
Cheers, Robin. DEFO... I'd like it to return to the 'helicopter days'. Remember?;)
Next week, a 'meaningless' game at Ibrox.... AYE, THAT'LL BE SHINING BRIGHT!:D:eyebrows:
Marco.
rmcin626
04-05-2019, 13:37
Cheers, Robin. DEFO... I'd like it to return to the 'helicopter days'. Remember?;)
Next week, a 'meaningless' game at Ibrox.... AYE, THAT'LL BE SHINING BRIGHT!:D:eyebrows:
Marco.
Looking forward to another quiet friendly game next Sunday
told ya it would be a big win.. you can enjoy your wee drinky now..:D
Lol - it wasn't that type of game, though... In the first half, Aberdeen could've been 2-0 up! However, Lustig's goal, just before half time, effectively killed it, and Celtic cruised the second half.
Now........................................ ROLL ON THE TREBLE, TREBLE!!
:exactly::cool:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/yRa8N7.jpg
Marco.
Lol - it wasn't that type of game, though... In the first half, Aberdeen could've been 2-0 up! However, Lustig's goal, just before half time, effectively killed it, and Celtic cruised the second half.
Now........................................ ROLL ON THE TREBLE, TREBLE!!
:exactly::cool:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/yRa8N7.jpg
Marco.
that was just to make it look good ;) they took it up the ass :D
Well we beat Hibs 1-0 but got mcgreggor sent off(quite rightly) for a bit of insanity.
Hope he gets severely dealt with. Total idiot.
rmcin626
06-05-2019, 07:48
Really poor game, especially the second half, and not for the first time the goalkeeper acts like an idiot.
Really poor game, especially the second half, and not for the first time the goalkeeper acts like an idiot.
yup, i'd transfer his ass. at his age he has no excuse. heard we are after zander clark so maybe he will be bumped. Think a number will be
rmcin626
06-05-2019, 08:19
yup, i'd transfer his ass. at his age he has no excuse. heard we are after zander clark so maybe he will be bumped. Think a number will be
I’m sure there will be a clear out in the summer, although some will want to stick around as they will be on better money at Ibrox
Safe for another season :)
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Safe for another season :)
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yup, well done to them. its a tough league, especially near the bottom. pressured too as there is so much money staked on staying there.
one of my mates' sides is in playoffs to get there again. very tough tho.
Pleased for you, Chris, and feel free to talk about your team more! Despite how it looks, this thread's not just for discussing Celtic and Rangers!:)
Wish Chris (Strat) would talk more about Man City, too!
Marco.
Well we beat Hibs 1-0 but got mcgreggor sent off(quite rightly) for a bit of insanity.
Hope he gets severely dealt with. Total idiot.
Yeah, I watched the game. It was as cack as some of ours recently, up until the 0-3 win against Aberdeen! Rangers were by far the better side and should've won by more, but they looked distinctly lacklustre, compared with their other recent performances. If Hibs had shown more attacking intent, it might've been different, but they were even more disappointing than Rangers! Still, you got the win, which is ultimately what counts most.
And yes, what McGregor did was total idiocy!:doh: There was absolutely ZERO excuse for his actions....
In all seriousness, if Rangers are to mount a genuine title challenge to us next season, then never mind who they sign in the summer, they'll have to sort out their disciplinary record, which quite simply is woeful! You can't maintain consistency when you've continually got key players missing through suspension.
I wonder how much of a loss McGregor will be on Sunday against us? We'll see...
You're now going to be fielding a goalkeeper who, to my knowledge, hasn't played all season, in a game you'd dearly love to win, simply to lay down a marker for next season. That will defo weaken your team, but I still think you'll have enough to either win or draw, as even though it's an old firm game, I can't see us playing full out, as we won't want to risk any serious injuries for the cup final against Hearts.
Therefore, experience tells me in these games, when either Rangers or Celtic need to win, or one needs it more than the other, that's exactly what happens... And on top of that, you guys will be out to 'avenge' your defeat at Celtic Park, and the Brown/Morelos thing, which is why I can't see us leaving Ibrox on Sunday with anything more than a draw.
Marco.
rmcin626
06-05-2019, 15:01
Will be interesting on Sunday, we were shocking in the second half, Hibs had their first corner in about 85 minutes if we play like that again Celtic will be easy winners. Looks like Wes will be in goal, he played in some cup games earlier in the season don't think he has played since then. That was our 12th red card of the season a very proud record not!
Yeah, I watched the game. It was as cack as some of ours recently, up until the 0-3 win against Aberdeen! Rangers were by far the better side and should've won by more, but they looked distinctly lacklustre, compared with their other recent performances. If Hibs had shown more attacking intent, it might've been different, but they were even more disappointing than Rangers! Still, you got the win, which is ultimately what counts most.
And yes, what McGregor did was total idiocy!:doh: There was absolutely ZERO excuse for his actions....
In all seriousness, if Rangers are to mount a genuine title challenge to us next season, then never mind who they sign in the summer, they'll have to sort out their disciplinary record, which quite simply is woeful! You can't maintain consistency when you've continually got key players missing through suspension.
I wonder how much of a loss McGregor will be on Sunday against us? We'll see...
You're now going to be fielding a goalkeeper who, to my knowledge, hasn't played all season, in a game you'd dearly love to win, simply to lay down a marker for next season. That will defo weaken your team, but I still think you'll have enough to either win or draw, as even though it's an old firm game, I can't see us playing full out, as we won't want to risk any serious injuries for the cup final against Hearts.
Therefore, experience tells me in these games, when either Rangers or Celtic need to win, or one needs it more than the other, that's exactly what happens... And on top of that, you guys will be out to 'avenge' your defeat at Celtic Park, and the Brown/Morelos thing, which is why I can't see us leaving Ibrox on Sunday with anything more than a draw.
Marco.
its been 2 players really; one is young and s american so you can understand it to an extent but not that he failed to learn. shagger has no excuses. both should be dumped. think he was making sure he had no part to play in any congrats to celtic; i said it at time and i still think it.. tosser of first order.
rmcin626
06-05-2019, 15:08
its been 2 players really; one is young and s american so you can understand it to an extent but not that he failed to learn. shagger has no excuses. both should be dumped. think he was making sure he had no part to play in any congrats to celtic; i said it at time and i still think it.. tosser of first order.
Don't sit on the fence Grant, tell us what you really think of him haha
Some cheer for us. We have won the reserve league as well... by 4 goals from Celtic...Helicopter Monday :D
well done the young colts
Ha - good stuff!:)
Marco.
Stratmangler
06-05-2019, 23:47
Wish Chris would talk more about Man City, too!
First off https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-leicester-black-armbands-16234988
Second - it was a very frustrating game against Leicester. Then Vincent Kompany stepped up to the plate, and scored what may be the goal of the season.
First off https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-leicester-black-armbands-16234988
Second - it was a very frustrating game against Leicester. Then Vincent Kompany stepped up to the plate, and scored what may be the goal of the season.Yup, just one match away now. Tbh both teams deserve it but only one can get it.
It's been a great season
rmcin626
07-05-2019, 21:11
Now that was a great game of football, Stevie G should be showing that to his players tomorrow, well done Liverpool.
Yes, defo disappointing, but you're talking about the semi-finals of the Champions League, against a team like Barca (with Messi in their ranks), who on their day can do that to anyone!
TBH, I didn't expect Liverpool to do as well this season in Europe, as they're still at the building stage, although well into it now under Klopp. I acknowledge that the CL is important, due to the kudos and huge sums of cash gained from progressing through the rounds, and it would've been a massive thing for Liverpool to have won it, but they really should be concentrating all their efforts on winning the EPL. That's their main priority!
In that respect, the CL is a major distraction, as it's very difficult, even with the size and quality of squad Liverpool have, to compete on both fronts at the final stages of those competitions, so I just hope that Liverpool don't suffer a 'hangover' in their away game to Newcastle on Saturday, which wouldn't be an easy game at the best of times, and so gift the title to City!
However, in terms of the return match against Barca, at Anfield, look out for a big Liverpool comeback... I'm certain that they can pull it level, as they're a very different team at home - *if* they don't concede an away goal, and then who knows what might happen... If Barca score first though, it's over.
Well, what did I say: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48179167
:eek::eek:
FUKKIN' YEE-HAH!!:yay::yay:
What a stunning game.... Has to be up there with one of the best European comebacks EVER!!! :clap::clap::clap:
Marco.
Great stuff considering they were missing a few attacking stars.
Yup, Klopp is building some team there, which is getting markedly better every season! If they don't win the EPL this time, and I hope they do [sorry, Chris], then they'll defo be up there again next season.
However, it may be 'written in the stars' this year that Liverpool win a historic league and CL double!;)
And from a personal point of view, being a Celtic and Liverpool fan, just imagine the treble, treble, plus the above...... Now that would be a season to remember!!:eek::D
Marco.
rmcin626
07-05-2019, 21:31
Yup, Klopp is building some team there, which is getting markedly better every season! If they don't win the EPL this time, and I hope they do [sorry, Chris], then they'll defo be up there again next season.
However, it may be 'written in the stars' this year that Liverpool win a historic league and CL double!;)
And from a personal point of view, being a Celtic and Liverpool fan, just imagine the treble, treble, plus the above...... Now that would be a season to remember!!:eek::D
Marco.
Not being a fan of either team you mentioned Marco, however that was some display by Liverpool tonight.
Absolutely, Robin. It'll go down in history, and deservedly so!
You may have noticed, but I'm not too bad at this prediction malarkey, lol;)
Should've put some money on it.... Wonder what odds you'd have got on 4-0 before the game?:hmm:
Marco.
Gerrard is trying to play the klopp way. Of course he is under studying and training to take over in several years there. Which is fair enough and I for one accept he is still pretty, dare I say it... Green lol
Lol - if you want to make the comparison, then Gerrard's about as good a manager as Klopp was a player!:eyebrows:;)
Marco.
A bit rude Marco. He is learning like anyone else, and the hard way. But the best way.. He might end up better. Only time will tell
Stratmangler
07-05-2019, 22:14
it may be 'written in the stars' this year that Liverpool win a historic league and CL double!
If they'd not conceded a 7 point lead since the turn of the year they'd have the EPL title sewn up.
See you out the other side.... :p
Lol - every team goes through a 'wee lull':eyebrows:
Seriously though mate, may the best team win! It's been a cracking season this time in the EPL. Maybe next season City will do something worthwhile in Europe?:D:ner:
;)
Marco.
A bit rude Marco. He is learning like anyone else, and the hard way. But the best way.. He might end up better. Only time will tell
It was a joke, daftee!:doh:
In all seriousness though, not many great players (as Gerrard undoubtedly was) go on to make truly great managers. Zidane and Guardiola are two of the few standouts. Who knows, Gerrard may become another!
Marco.
chris@panteg
08-05-2019, 07:39
Stunning result, who will they play in the final, can the spuds turn it round? I doubt it but you never know.
fantastic heart, not just the play... Playing for the city, the badge and the manager.. top class stuff... take note gers team; THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT!;)
Absolutely, but the quality of player at Liverpool is currently light years ahead, in every position, of what Rangers (or even Celtic) have. Neither team, right now, is remotely at that level.
Therefore, as well as Rangers 'playing for the jersey' and the manager (as outlined), which is fundamental, they need a significant injection of quality in virtually all areas of the team, if they're going to mount a challenge to Celtic for trophies next season, never mind reach Liverpool's level.
Maybe one day mate, for both our teams, if we ever gain access to the EPL and its HUGE financial rewards!;)
Right now we're being strangled by being two (very) big fish in a tiny pond....
Marco.
goes without saying.. it has to be at their level.
Stunning result, who will they play in the final, can the spuds turn it round? I doubt it but you never know.
Indeed, Chris. For me, the semis and the final of the CL this year are indicative of the quality and influence of the EPL, which is now unquestionably the best and most competitive league in the world, and why EPL teams have featured largely in the final stages . I mean, when was the last time that Spurs had an opportunity, although slight, of reaching the final of Europe's top tournament?
However, the interesting, and also significant thing for me, is the resurgence of Ajax, who like Liverpool, have a great and very proud history in European football, but in comparison with the EPL and La Liga, or even the Bundesliga, play in a 'diddy league'... Plus, whilst by no means paupers, they operate on a virtual 'shoestring', financially, compared with the likes of PSG and Man City, or even Liverpool (interesting link here: https://www.goal.com/en-kw/lists/the-cost-of-ajaxs-squad-compared-to-madrid-juventus-europes/d2viyfge13sx1t116isvvnbn6#128c0kwmfhwy11jwcryxace0 ld), yet are on the verge of claiming the biggest prize in club football.
So........ What are they doing right, that the likes of PSG, Man City, Man Utd (although they are a team currently in transition), Real Madrid and Juventus aren't? And does their 'blueprint' for European success, give hope to the likes of Celtic and Rangers? The success of Ajax certainly highlights that you don't need to play in the best league in the world, or be the wealthiest team, to succeed in a competition now that's driven by money.
And what about your team, Arsenal, they could also learn a thing or two from Ajax... Whilst Liverpool's 'fairytale' journey to the CL final this season is remarkable, if Ajax get there too, which seems likely, and win it, that for me, would be even more remarkable!:cool:
Marco.
Not addressed to me but for me the difference between say Ajax and the Old Firm is their fans and the club hierarchy dont insist on winning every game, or being above their rivals all the time. They nurture their youth, but at same time play them, and support them rather than hound them for missing a few passes etc.
IE, they have patience.
i might add Celtic are better than Rangers at this, although still have a way to go.
Agreed. Rangers will get there I think, as the signs are good with the success that the youngsters have had this season.
The question I posed, however, was addressed to everyone, so I'd appreciate feedback on it from all regular contributors, including you, and especially Chris [Strat], as for me considering that Man City have the second biggest budget to work with, their European success, particularly since they became one of the world's wealthiest clubs, has been little short of abysmal, so in that respect, what are they doing wrong...?:hmm:
I shall comment more after breakfast!:)
Marco.
P.S If Ajax win the CL next season, you can add Marc Overmars to the list of great footballers who've become great managers... I'd certainly take him for the Celtic job!;)
chris@panteg
08-05-2019, 09:30
Indeed, Chris. For me, the semis and the final of the CL this year are indicative of the quality and influence of the EPL, which is now unquestionably the best and most competitive league in the world, and why EPL teams have featured largely in the final stages . I mean, when was the last time that Spurs had an opportunity, although slight, of reaching the final of Europe's top tournament?
However, the interesting, and also significant thing for me, is the resurgence of Ajax, who like Liverpool, have a great and very proud history in European football, but in comparison with the EPL and La Liga, or even the Bundesliga, play in a 'diddy league'... Plus, whilst by no means paupers, they operate on a virtual 'shoestring', financially, compared with the likes of PSG and Man City, or even Liverpool (interesting link here: https://www.goal.com/en-kw/lists/the-cost-of-ajaxs-squad-compared-to-madrid-juventus-europes/d2viyfge13sx1t116isvvnbn6#128c0kwmfhwy11jwcryxace0 ld), yet are on the verge of claiming the biggest prize in club football.
So........ What are they doing right, that the likes of PSG, Man City, Man Utd (although they are a team currently in transition), Real Madrid and Juventus aren't? And does their 'blueprint' for European success, give hope to the likes of Celtic and Rangers? The success of Ajax certainly highlights that you don't need to play in the best league in the world, or be the wealthiest team, to succeed in a competition now that's driven by money.
And what about your team, Arsenal, they could also learn a thing or two from Ajax... Whilst Liverpool's 'fairytale' journey to the CL final this season is remarkable, if Ajax get there too, which seems likely, and win it, that for me, would be even more remarkable!:cool:
Marco.
I'm afraid I have little faith in Arsenal at the moment, just don't know what to expect.
I think Liverpool will win the final now, I will make the effort to watch it.
I think spurs just might do it tonight, just a gut feeling.
Stratmangler
08-05-2019, 09:37
The league ends on Sunday 12th of May.
The FA Cup final is on the following Saturday, 18th of May.
The Champions League final is on the 1st of June.
It will be interesting to see how the Champions League finalists keep it together - 3 weeks is a long time to be kicking your heels.
What about my point, Chris, on City's lack of CL success, given that they have the second biggest [planet-sized] budget in Europe? What are Ajax doing right, that your club isn't? What are your thoughts on the matter?
Come on mate, let's get to the nitty-gritty of this rather thorny issue!:cool:
The fact is, despite City's huge wealth, they'll never be seen as one of Europe's true giants until they win the CL..... I have my theories on what the fundamental problem is.
Marco.
Ajax were last in the CL in 2015, being knocked out in the group stages, so their achievements might be regarded as a flash in the pan.
The question might be asked 'what are Man City doing right that Ajax aren't?'
What with having spent €682m, as opposed to €95m?;)
Or securing investment from a billionaire owner?
No way is Ajax's CL success this year a "flash in the pan"... You appear to need a small history lesson on Ajax, and their standing, based on their success to date, in European football: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Ajax_in_European_football which dismisses the notion of their achievements, past or present, being a "flash in the pan".
Btw, I'm not anti-Man City, far from it, and indeed am always pleased for Chris when they win, unless it's against Liverpool or their rivals from 'the swamp':eyebrows:, but I'm curious what people's views are on their relative lack of European success, considering the huge sums of cash that they at their disposal.
Is it not being invested wisely or what?
Marco.
No history lesson needed at all. If we are talking about CL performances of late then Man City far eclipse Ajax. We can venture into history and look at Nottingham Forest with two European Cups if you want to talk about history, but if Forest got to the semis next season (hypothetically) you wouldn't be asking the same question.
City have their spending and recruitment strategy, Ajax have theirs - one can't learn from the other at all.
Stratmangler
08-05-2019, 10:31
What's thorny about it?
The season is long and hard.
We've had our share of player injuries. It was worse this season following on from the World Cup, and we had more players at the World Cup than any other team.
By final whistle of the FA Cup final we'll have played 50 domestic games.
Add on the 10 CL games, and that's a hell of a lot of fixtures.
We've played 58 out of 60 fixtures!
Fatigue sets in, and ultimately it's determination and sheer bloody mindedness that gets you over the line.
It was disappointing to have lost out to Spuds, especially considering that it was in the space of 11 days, and we beat them 2 out of 3 games. Somewhere in those 11 days we played Palace too.
We now have recovery time before the final game of the season (and I use the word final because that's what it will be), and we have recovery time before returning to Wembley for the FA Cup Final.
Liverpool were in and out of both the League Cup and FA Cup 1st game.
Time to lick wounds and recover.
Top teams in England will prioritize qualifying for next seasons champs league as no 1. having a good run in europe is also expected with obviously trying to win it.
but winning the epl is likely still no one goal, with champs league then fa cup behind
No history lesson needed at all. If we are talking about CL performances of late then Man City far eclipse Ajax. We can venture into history and look at Nottingham Forest with two European Cups if you want to talk about history, but if Forest got to the semis next season (hypothetically) you wouldn't be asking the same question.
City have their spending and recruitment strategy, Ajax have theirs - one can't learn from the other at all.
Sorry, totally disagree! You can *always* learn something from someone else's successes or failures, unless you're so arrogant as to think that you know it all already....
And in terms of the bit in bold, that's *exactly* how it should be, given the HUGE gulf in spending power. Therefore, budget per budget, in terms of CL performances, I'd argue that Ajax have been punching at (or above) their weight, far more than Man City.
Chris, thanks for your views. I'll comment later:)
Marco.
Ok. Ajax are a club that operates on a 5 year cycle it seems. Build a team from youth, do well, team gets broken up and the cycle starts again. Their net spend is very low for this reason - get them in on the cheap (or from apprentices), sell them for a lot more.
Man City are a club where money is no object. The end. This is why their net spend is so high.
So, if Ajax adopt the City approach they have to focus much more on investment from outside the classic Ajax net, and keep players to build a squad of two world class players for each position. This still doesn't guarantee success; look at Barca, Real Madrid, Juve.
If Man City adopt the Ajax approach then they do away with big investment, re-align their wage structure and focus on their youth and scouting. This doesn't guarantee success either, and would take 10-15 years to completely change their strategy.
Ajax have their way, and accept the cycle of success at home followed by possible success in Europe (Europa + 1 season in the last 4 in the CL and doing rather well). City have their way, the way the top teams are doing it with varying levels of success. They will win the CL, and soon.
Ok. Ajax are a club that operates on a 5 year cycle it seems. Build a team from youth, do well, team gets broken up and the cycle starts again. Their net spend is very low for this reason - get them in on the cheap (or from apprentices), sell them for a lot more.
Man City are a club where money is no object. The end. This is why their net spend is so high.
So, if Ajax adopt the City approach they have to focus much more on investment from outside the classic Ajax net, and keep players to build a squad of two world class players for each position. This still doesn't guarantee success; look at Barca, Real Madrid, Juve.
If Man City adopt the Ajax approach then they do away with big investment, re-align their wage structure and focus on their youth and scouting. This doesn't guarantee success either, and would take 10-15 years to completely change their strategy.
Ajax have their way, and accept the cycle of success at home followed by possible success in Europe (Europa + 1 season in the last 4 in the CL and doing rather well). City have their way, the way the top teams are doing it with varying levels of success. They will win the CL, and soon.
On that we largely agree.
Ajax, much like Celtic [indeed the two teams are comparable in many ways, especially in terms of infrastructure, history/fan base worldwide and playing style] are ultimately a selling club, and I reckon that if Celtic played in the top Dutch league, which I'd contend is a better standard than the SPL, and the players had been coached/managed better in a tactical sense, for a longer period of time, then they may have achieved similar European success. That would also apply to Rangers.
However, my point is that the approach Ajax have adopted, given the respective budgets of both they and Man City, has been more fruitful overall in a European sense, although no way could either club realistically change and adopt the approach of the other. I do agree that City will win the CL soon, and indeed hope so, as I support all British clubs in Europe, as long as it's not at the expense of Liverpool or Man Utd.
I also have a soft spot for Wolves, especially under their current manager, and the style of football he has them playing. On their day, they're capable of beating anyone, but woefully inconsistent!
Btw, are you a Man City fan, and if not, which team do you support?
Marco.
My woes lie in another league with Plymouth Argyle.
I think this is an outstanding crop of players Ajax have at moment but the best of them will leave this year and they will be back to sniffing around the group stages again.
Man city with their buying power, along with several other sides across Europe will always be in with a chance of winning it. City may manage their"Holy Grail" or they may not. Money gets you in the zone but it by itself doesn't win the big European baby
What's thorny about it?
The season is long and hard.
We've had our share of player injuries. It was worse this season following on from the World Cup, and we had more players at the World Cup than any other team.
By final whistle of the FA Cup final we'll have played 50 domestic games.
Add on the 10 CL games, and that's a hell of a lot of fixtures.
We've played 58 out of 60 fixtures!
Fatigue sets in, and ultimately it's determination and sheer bloody mindedness that gets you over the line.
It was disappointing to have lost out to Spuds, especially considering that it was in the space of 11 days, and we beat them 2 out of 3 games. Somewhere in those 11 days we played Palace too.
We now have recovery time before the final game of the season (and I use the word final because that's what it will be), and we have recovery time before returning to Wembley for the FA Cup Final.
Liverpool were in and out of both the League Cup and FA Cup 1st game.
Time to lick wounds and recover.
Thorny from the point of view that it's a subject you sometimes seem reluctant to discuss;)
You make some valid points, in terms of the amount of games played, recovery time, etc. However, in that respect have you got any idea how many games Celtic have played, not only this season, but for the last three, being involved to the death in ALL domestic competitions, including having to play 3 and 4 CL qualifiers, some before the season proper has kicked off? We also had a few key players on World Cup duty, although of course not as many as you.
Yes I know most of our games haven't been as demanding, although achieving such consistent success, even in Scotland, is harder than a lot of people think, but the point is, given the amount of money City have spent, they should have a strong enough squad to cope with both injuries and the amount of games that they have to play, so whilst I accept your point as being relevant, I don't consider it as a valid excuse for their relative poor success in Europe, not only under Pep, but those before him.
For me, the issue is more deep-rooted than that, and I'll touch upon it shortly:cool:
Marco.
Tradition has a lot to do with it for me... its a hard thing to grasp is tradition; its an aura great Euro Clubs have most of the time. City have one of the best sides around, and one, if not the, best manager.. plenty money and a great stadia; lots of fans etc... and although they have won a euro trophy, they have yet to achieve the aura, mentality and tradition of a top Euro winning side.
It could easily happen tho, especially when or if they win the biggy once, as it could snowball...
I think this is an outstanding crop of players Ajax have at moment but the best of them will leave this year and they will be back to sniffing around the group stages again.
Man city with their buying power, along with several other sides across Europe will always be in with a chance of winning it. City may manage their"Holy Grail" or they may not. Money gets you in the zone but it by itself doesn't win the big European baby
Yes, agreed, undoubtedly, but the point is, it's a 'recipe' that works, unlike that, European-wise, of our two teams, or indeed Man City.
As to my view of the fundamental problem City have, in terms of winning the CL, their huge wealth aside, consider how big a club Man City *really* are in the eyes of most people, compared with other British clubs such as Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal - or even Celtic or Rangers - who for me all have more history of success, both domestically and in Europe, than Man City, plus a bigger worldwide fanbase (certainly before Mansour injected his billions, and City gained a considerable band of 'glory hunters', to bolster the undoubtedly loyal group of supporters, who've followed them through thick and thin, over many years), and therefore crucially, for me, those clubs have more 'emotional pull', in terms of people either wanting to support or play for them...
In that respect, and for me this is part of the problem, I wonder how many players in recent years have joined Man City, as diehard Man City fans, perhaps since boyhood, in the way of players who've come to Liverpool or Man Utd (or even Celtic or Rangers), or have signed for City simply for the money? I'd argue that those types of players will never give as much for their clubs, as those who have their club's colours running though their veins...
For me therefore, that lack of 'emotional pull' and the HEART/DESIRE (as you touched upon was evident in the Liverpool players during their amazing comeback and defeat of Barca) for players to pull on a Man City jersey, because of the club's historical lack of European success, is not the same, compared with players pulling on a Liverpool or Man Utd shirt, and why Man City have struggled to win, or even reach the semi-finals of the CL - and until that issue is successfully addressed, may continue to do so.
Essentially, I don't believe that enough of the players, currently playing for Man City, have the HEART or DETERMINATION to develop the type of mentality necessary, to consistently win the big prizes - and for the master at that, one need only look to Alex Ferguson and what he achieved with Man Utd.
Therefore, for me, money and status aside, until Man City are considered by the world's best footballers as being a truly huge club, and as 'sexy' to play for as the other two English teams mentioned, with all their historical success, not to mention that of the likes of a Real Madrid, they will struggle to win European football's top prize.
Can you see where I'm coming from?:)
Marco.
Tradition has a lot to do with it for me... its a hard thing to grasp is tradition; its an aura great Euro Clubs have most of the time. City have one of the best sides around, and one, if not the, best manager.. plenty money and a great stadia; lots of fans etc... and although they have won a euro trophy, they have yet to achieve the aura, mentality and tradition of a top Euro winning side.
Lol - that's *exactly it* (aura), and is basically what I've just said!:)
And that, including how 'sexy' the jersey is to play for/how much it *really* means to players, has a massive influence on how successful a team will be over a period of time. In that sense, City lack the "aura" of a Real Madrid, Juventus, Liverpool, Man Utd (or even Celtic or Rangers), and for good reason, may always will.
Marco.
You can't build 'aura' or tradition over 5-10 years. It comes over decades and comes from nostalgia so I'll probably be dead before City are talked about in the same vein as Real Madrid etc. You lot will definitely be dead!
You can't build 'aura' or tradition over 5-10 years. It comes over decades and comes from nostalgia...
Exactly, but as you know, City have been around for much longer than 5-10 years.
We're not talking about a new football club here, but rather one that although wealthy beyond the dreams of most other clubs in Europe, are victims of their relative lack of success before the big money arrived, and so until that changes, won't have the same 'pull' or European status, as the teams that have been surrounded by said "aura" for years, due to the tradition and nostalgia you mention - and I'm not sure, from City's point of view, that simply chucking money at it is the answer.
Here's the thing... Take wages out of the equation, and if every big team in Europe paid the same money, and offered the same overall earning and football development potential for players, which teams do you think most would want to play for, and how high up do you think Man City would feature on that list?
Marco.
rmcin626
08-05-2019, 13:38
If a club has some decent money, as Ajax have they can then follow a blueprint of bringing players in through their youth system supported by some very clever buys around the £20 million mark. City on the other hand have mainly tried to buy success through lots of money at a series of big name managers and players.
I hope the Dutch teams become successful again, success to me is always finishing in the top 2 of your league and reaching the knockout stages of Europe.
Unless you have a big squad it’s hard to have success in a league and the Europa League.
If a club has some decent money, as Ajax have they can then follow a blueprint of bringing players in through their youth system supported by some very clever buys around the £20 million mark. City on the other hand have mainly tried to buy success through lots of money at a series of big name managers and players.
I hope the Dutch teams become successful again, success to me is always finishing in the top 2 of your league and reaching the knockout stages of Europe.
Unless you have a big squad it’s hard to have success in a league and the Europa League.
I agree with all of the above, especially the bit in bold, in terms of PSV Eindhoven, and also the Italian clubs, who traditionally used to dominate Europe, but have fallen away in recent times, and unfortunately is the same with both of their international teams. I never want to watch another World Cup again without Holland and Italy!
The CL needs a strong Juve, and Inter and AC Milan, as well as a strong Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund, Marseille, Monaco and Lyon (not just PSG), as well as the big two from Spain, including all the top English teams, to maintain the highest standards possible for the competition.
Marco.
rmcin626
08-05-2019, 14:05
I agree with all of the above, especially the bit in bold, in terms of PSV Eindhoven, and also the Italian clubs, who traditionally used to dominate Europe, but have fallen away in recent times, same with their international side.
The CL needs a strong Juve, and Inter and AC Milan, as well as a strong Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund, Marseille, Monaco and Lyon (not just PSG), including all the top English teams, to maintain the highest standards possible for the competition.
Marco.
Yes, in the past it was a much more even playing field, but now money can buy a certain amount of success. Personally would like to see Ajax in the final. Although not a Liverpool fan by any means, I do enjoy the type of football they play and they have only lost one league game this season I think, it would be a shame if they end up with nothing.
In many ways the EPL money has kinda ruined the Euro leagues and the big euro touneys, as England has an abnormal amount of talent playing there due to their buying power. Alas for them it backfires at international level a little with less Home players getting their chances.
The big teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man C etc buy up most of the top talent at a young age, with very little chances of moving into to sides they are farmed out to develop and a profit made. Probably not the best way for kids to grow up being here, there or wherever.
But this is the way it is now.
It doesnt help matters that the majority of footy orginisations a corrupt or just downright unfit for purpose too.
Bit late to this, but being a Norwich City fan since 1978 I'm a happy chappy with the 2018/19 season - the best NCFC team I think I have seen, and especially good that we've done it by breaking the rules but above all, being brave, never giving up and a complete unit. There ain't going to be much money to expand the squad in the summer, but I genuinely believe that if they keep doing what they've been doing they will be ok in the Prem next season. Pukki who, Marco? :eyebrows:
Bit late to this, but being a Norwich City fan since 1978 I'm a happy chappy with the 2018/19 season - the best NCFC team I think I have seen, and especially good that we've done it by breaking the rules but above all, being brave, never giving up and a complete unit. There ain't going to be much money to expand the squad in the summer, but I genuinely believe that if they keep doing what they've been doing they will be ok in the Prem next season. Pukki who, Marco? :eyebrows:Yup congrats to them. Best side in champ this season. A bit of a hickup near end but staggered o er the line v Villa
And well done the spurs too.
Indeed, another great comeback. Having four teams in the respective European finals confirms as I said earlier, that the EPL is now unquestionably the best league in the world.
So... To today's old firm game at Ibrox. As ever lads, may the best team win! As I said before, given the prevailing circumstances, I can't see anything else other than a Rangers win or a draw. At the moment, I'm edging towards a scoring draw.
However... The most important thing is a clean, but competitive game of football, with no nasty tackles. 'score settling' from the previous encounter, and for both teams to finish with 11 players on the pitch, and no crowd trouble!
We shall see whether that transpires or not.
Marco.
Stratmangler
12-05-2019, 09:43
However... The most important thing is a clean, but competitive game of football, with no nasty tackles. 'score settling' from the previous encounter, and for both teams to finish with 11 players on the pitch, and no crowd trouble!
We shall see whether that transpires or not.
Marco.
If I were a betting man my money would be on not.
got it down for a 1-1 draw too. but anything could happen quite frankly. doesnt bother me one way or t'other really.
chris@panteg
12-05-2019, 09:47
It's not been a good season for the gunners but I'll take a place in the Europa final, may the best team win, obviously I'm hoping that Arsenal can do it.
Liverpool have had a great season, if they end up in 2nd place with 97 points, that is just staggering really but go's to show just how good city are, I'll be very surprised if Brighton can stop them today, I've no doubts about Liverpool beating wolves.
Yeah, same goes with the 3pm kickoffs later in the EPL. City should do it, and and as I said with the old firm game, may the best team win!
I agree Chris, I think the game at Ibrox today will be a bit 'tasty'... Are you going to watch it? I would;)
Marco.
It's not been a good season for the gunners but I'll take a place in the Europa final, may the best team win, obviously I'm hoping that Arsenal can do it.
Liverpool have had a great season, if they end up in 2nd place with 97 points, that is just staggering really but go's to show just how good city are, I'll be very surprised if Brighton can stop them today, I've no doubts about Liverpool beating wolves.
Brighton my just play better than their league position indicates. Wolves will be a tough fixture as well.. City are favs but its not done and dusted.
At least Liverpool have champs league final if they fail; city dont so really will want to win this, but of course they need to keep nerves in check..an early goal will be helpful.
As for the Old Firm game, it may be all powder puff and just blow away into mediocrity. Sure Gerrards men will be versed in staying on park. If he plays Morelos then it wont surprise me if he is targeted and he gets sent off again.
I wont be watching or following; i never do with these games now. but good luck to both sides and hope they can all rise above their baser selves. It's just a game of football, not ww3
rmcin626
12-05-2019, 10:13
Indeed, another great comeback. Having four teams in the respective European finals confirms as I said earlier, that the EPL is now unquestionably the best league in the world.
So... To today's old firm game at Ibrox. As ever lads, may the best team win! As I said before, given the prevailing circumstances, I can't see anything else other than a Rangers win or a draw. At the moment, I'm edging towards a scoring draw.
However... The most important thing is a clean, but competitive game of football, with no nasty tackles. 'score settling' from the previous encounter, and for both teams to finish with 11 players on the pitch, and no crowd trouble!
We shall see whether that transpires or not.
Marco.
Would be good to see a decent game, and finish with 11 players still on the pitch.
rmcin626
12-05-2019, 13:16
Good win today, only one team turned up, have to admit that when the Celtic team was announced thought we would be in with a good shout for the victory.
Brighton my just play better than their league position indicates. Wolves will be a tough fixture as well.. City are favs but its not done and dusted.
At least Liverpool have champs league final if they fail; city dont so really will want to win this, but of course they need to keep nerves in check..an early goal will be helpful.
As for the Old Firm game, it may be all powder puff and just blow away into mediocrity. Sure Gerrards men will be versed in staying on park. If he plays Morelos then it wont surprise me if he is targeted and he gets sent off again.
I wont be watching or following; i never do with these games now. but good luck to both sides and hope they can all rise above their baser selves. It's just a game of football, not ww3
Rev. I M Jolly ;-)
well played lads, and kept 11 on field.
Good win today, only one team turned up, have to admit that when the Celtic team was announced thought we would be in with a good shout for the victory.
Exactly right (and as predicted), thus the team who wanted/needed to win most, did, as is almost always the case in old firm games! Well done:)
With the cup final on the horizon, Celtic made too many changes to the team, which upset their rhythm. Plus, when there's nothing *really* at stake, psychologically players take their foot off the gas... That doesn't detract though from a very good performance from Rangers.
Now, let's see what happens in the big games in England!
Marco.
There is ALWAYS something at stake in an old firm game...:)
I agree, but I'm talking in terms of prizes. In that respect, there was nothing at stake in this match for the two teams, and that makes a *big* difference. Had Celtic gone into this game still needing a point for the title, I suspect things could've been different.
Marco.
sure, i still think they will lift the cup tho.
If Celtic can't get up for an Old Firm then it's a pretty bad show. It's the only thing that stands out from one end the poorest leagues in Europe.
Stratmangler
12-05-2019, 16:22
That was a satisfying result!
Brighton & Hove Albion 1-4 Manchester City
Roll on Saturday :cool:
yup congrats to Citee, another sperb season, and commiserations to Liverpool for being pipped at post.. very little between sides. Probably a record top 2 total
rmcin626
12-05-2019, 16:39
City were never going to lose at Brighton, if Liverpool had beaten City this season they would have won the league.
If Celtic can't get up for an Old Firm then it's a pretty bad show. It's the only thing that stands out from one end the poorest leagues in Europe.
It's not a case of "can't get up", but if you've watched/followed these games for over 40 years, as I have, you'd know that the team with most motivation to win, usually does - and also the team who lost the last old firm meeting, usually 'avenges' the result, which is *exactly* what happened today.
Plus, with a very important cup final to play, players quite naturally won't want to risk any injuries, which was perfectly showcased with the disappointment in Lustig's face when he went off injured in the first half, and so won't play full out, whether they admit it or not. In that respect, for me the result is no surprise.
The SPL is also a lot better/more competitive than you think, which is why if you speak to some very good English players, who've played there, they'll tell you exactly that! You have to remember the paucity of money there is up in Scotland and the size of the country, compared with most other leagues in Europe, and which has a big impact on proceedings. If there was more TV money being injected into the SPL and bigger attendances at games, out with of Rangers and Celtic, things would be much different!
Anyway, yes, well done to Man City! In most other seasons, the points tally Liverpool have accrued would've been enough to have won the title, which shows how consistent City have been this year! Pleased for ya, Chris :clap::clap:
Marco.
chris@panteg
12-05-2019, 16:57
Liverpool to win the champions league final though, I'll be supporting them for obvious reasons ��, Liverpool must win at all costs ��
Stratmangler
12-05-2019, 16:59
Liverpool to win the champions league final though, I'll be supporting them for obvious reasons ��, Liverpool must win at all costs ��
There's a club in North London that has different ideas :eyebrows:
It's not a case of "can't get up", but if you've watched/followed these games for over 40 years, as I have, you'd know that the team with most motivation to win, usually does - and also the team who lost the last old firm meeting, usually 'avenges' the result, which is *exactly* what happened today.
Plus, with a very important cup final to play, players quite naturally won't want to risk any injuries, which was perfectly showcased with the disappointment in Lustig's face when he went off injured in the first half, and so won't play full out, whether they admit it or not. In that respect, for me the result is no surprise.
The SPL is also a lot better/more competitive than you think, which is why if you speak to some very good English players, who've played there, they'll tell you exactly that! You have to remember the paucity of money there is up in Scotland and the size of the country, compared with most other leagues in Europe, and which has a big impact on proceedings. If there was more TV money being injected into the SPL and bigger attendances at games, out with of Rangers and Celtic, things would be much different!
Anyway, yes, well done to Man City! In most other seasons, the points tally Liverpool have accrued would've been enough to have won the title, which shows how consistent City have been this year! Pleased for ya, Chris :clap::clap:
Marco.
Its the best supported league re population base. Think Gerrard mentioned something ive always said re the Scottish game. Cameras are always in poor positions, and often facing empty stands. It doesnt do the game much good.
At same time to an extent if you remove the old firm it would indeed be a micky mouse league in europe. Maybe the fans of lesser clubs should give that a good think about, as without them, it would probably go semi pro
There's a club in North London that has different ideas :eyebrows:
both sides have the problem of keeping sharp without games til the event. Spurs will obviously be hoping Kane is fit.
I fancy the Pool as they have been there before and lost, so may be more up for it.
chris@panteg
12-05-2019, 17:25
There's a club in North London that has different ideas :eyebrows:
They can have as many ideas as they like but the scousers must win;)
Stratmangler
12-05-2019, 17:26
They can have as many ideas as they like but the scousers must win;)
Wenger in!!!
Stratmangler
12-05-2019, 20:06
Special thanks must go to the Brighton & Hove Albion supporters who stayed to witness the trophy presentation.
It's appreciated, and the Scousers wouldn't have done it.
I've never seen Wembley empty so fast as it did when we beat them in a penalty shootout back in February 2016. Graceless bastards!
chris@panteg
12-05-2019, 20:16
Wenger in!!!
Yeah:lol:
chris@panteg
18-05-2019, 17:52
City were a treat to watch today, awful for Watford, they played well in the first half but city were just so relentlessly good today.
Worthy treble winner's.
City were a treat to watch today, awful for Watford, they played well in the first half but city were just so relentlessly good today.
Worthy treble winner's.
Felt sorry for Watford, City just playing with them at the end but well done on the treble.
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So.... A 2-1 win today at Hearts means that we finish the season 9 points ahead of Rangers, who lost 1-2 against Kilmarnock, and who've finished third and secured a European place. A truly amazing season for Killie! Steve Clarke now looks set to be the next Scotland manager, and if so, that's fantastic news for Scotland fans:thumbsup:
Rangers close the gap on Celtic, and although finishing without a trophy, have improved significantly from where they were last season. I expect an even stronger challenge from them next season, and I'm sure that'll be the case, as we go for 9-in-a-row... However, for now, I'll just enjoy celebrating 8-in a row:
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:yay::yay: :champagne::champagne: :mex::mex: :yay::yay:
Well done BHOYS!!
:clapclapclap: :clapclapclap:
Marco.
rmcin626
19-05-2019, 21:22
So.... A 2-1 win today at Hearts means that we finish the season 9 points ahead of Rangers, who lost 1-2 against Kilmarnock, and who've finished third and secured a European place. A truly amazing season for Killie! Steve Clarke now looks set to be the next Scotland manager, and if so, that's fantastic news for Scotland fans:thumbsup:
Rangers close the gap on Celtic, and although finishing without a trophy, have improved significantly from where they were last season. I expect an even stronger challenge from them next season, and I'm sure it'll happen, as we go for 9-in-a-row... However, for now, I'll just enjoy celebrating 8-in a row:
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:yay::yay: :champagne::champagne: :mex::mex: :yay::yay:
Well done BHOYS!!
:clapclapclap: :clapclapclap:
Marco.
Hopefully next season will be more competitive, the Killie game was not great, should have won today but we didn’t but was not important to us, pleased for Kilmarnock.
Cup final tomorrow for Marco. No doubt he will end up merry, although shocks can happen.
I expect a fairly good win eventually, Maybe 4-1 but might be close for a while.
The transfer window opens soon so all the fun there for both sides, plus Celts still have to find a manager and director of football too.
Good luck Marco
Cheers, mate. Let's hope it's a good game:)
Marco.
rmcin626
25-05-2019, 12:54
Hoping for a good game today
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, FUCKING WOO-HOO, YA FREAKIN' DANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CELTIC FC: TREBLE-TREBLE WINNERS 2018/19 - TODAY WE MADE HISTORY... WELL DONE BHOYS!!!
I AM ABSOLUTLEY ECSTATIC!!!! :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::champagne::champagne::me x::mex::champagne:
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AND NEIL GETS THE MANAGER'S JOB, TO GO FOR 10-IN-A-ROW.... JUST WHAT I WANTED!!:cool::cool:
Off tae get pished!:D:D
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 08:16
Many congratulations to Celtic, thought Hearts were a bit unlucky on the day but you pay for mistakes and some clinical finishing.
Looking forward to next season and hope we can offer a challenge.
Cheers, mate. You did this season, certainly in head-to-head encounters in the league. One thing you can safely say now, with Gerrard at the helm. is that getting regularly cuffed from Celtic, home and away, is a thing of the past.
So if you can improve your form against the other teams (and SC's left Killie now, so that might help;)), and do better in the cup, then you'll defo be up there. I'm sure that'll happen. The key thing will be the summer transfers activities of both teams, and in that respect, who does the best business... We'll certainly have the most money to spend, but it's about spending it wisely. Lennon though, has always had a keen eye for a player, better IMO than Rodgers did.
Anyway, I don't think any team will do a treble-treble again, which really is an amazing achievement, considering the 25 one-off cup games (where often anything can happen) Celtic have successfully negotiated - quite remarkable consistency! The same also goes for '9-in-rows', etc... If we get 10-in-a-row, then like the treble-treble, that will never again be achieved.
I could see one of us winning 2, perhaps 3, titles in a row, in a particularly good run, but never 9 or 10, so next season, for that reason alone, is destined to be a cracker!:cool:
Where's Granty?:scratch:
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 09:00
Cheers, mate. You did this season, certainly in head-to-head encounters in the league. One thing you can safely say now, with Gerrard at the helm. is that getting regularly cuffed from Celtic, home and away, is a thing of the past.
So if you can improve your form against the other teams (and SC's left Killie now, so that might help;)), and do better in the cup, then you'll defo be up there. I'm sure that'll happen. The key thing will be the summer transfers activities of both teams, and in that respect, who does the best business... We'll certainly have the most money to spend, but it's about spending it wisely. Lennon though, has always had a keen eye for a player, better IMO than Rodgers did.
Anyway, I don't think any team will do a treble-treble again, which really is an amazing achievement, considering the 25 one-off cup games (where often anything can happen) Celtic have successfully negotiated - quite remarkable consistency! The same also goes for '9-in-rows', etc... If we get 10-in-a-row, then like the treble-treble, that will never again be achieved.
I could see one of us winning 2, perhaps 3, titles in a row, in a particularly good run, but never 9 or 10, so next season, for that reason alone, is destined to be a cracker!:cool:
Where's Granty?:scratch:
Marco.
The key is consistency which Rangers didn’t have this season, will be interesting to see what happens during the summer and which players come and go and how that’s going to change things.
Yup, but you also need more creativity [game changers/potential match winners] in your side, able to break teams and packed defences down, which as you know happens against Celtic and Rangers every week, and which Celtic have in abundance, and can turn draws or narrow defeats, into wins, plus more 'big game' players, who always do the biz in the big games, such as Edouard did yesterday,
He may not have scored as many goals this season as Morelos, but he invariably comes up with the big goals, in cup finals and European games, when they're needed most...
An interesting thing is everyone going on about our striking positions and how signings will need to be made, and I'm sure they will be, but let's not forget that before even a cheque has been written, we'll effectively have three new players up front next season: Bayo (who I expect to be a sensation), along with Maryan Shved, and of course Leigh Griffiths!! That alone will add considerable goal threat to our front line, before a penny is spent.
Plus the fact that Edouard will have had a good full season under his belt, which he'll have learned from, as still a young player himself, and so will be better again next season. Therefore, if we can add some quality to that frontline in the summer, we'll be more formidable in that area next season, as this season our goal-scoring tally was a little disappointing.
The big thing for us will be what happens in defence, which is where I think the main changes will be made.
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 09:44
We will be able to tell more once we see the make up of the various squads, hopefully we can strengthen in certain areas and as I said be much consistent. As I have said the Celtic team that finished the season under Lennon were nowhere near the Team under Brendan, from a Celtic point of view not sure that Neil Lennon was the right choice and one my neighbours a long standing season ticket holder agrees with me, but time will tell. From a Rangers point of view I think it’s a great appointment, hopefully that won’t come back and bite me on the arse.
Once we see the make up of the squads we will be able tell more.
We will be able to tell more once we see the make up of the various squads, hopefully we can strengthen in certain areas and as I said be much consistent. As I have said the Celtic team that finished the season under Lennon were nowhere near the Team under Brendan, from a Celtic point of view not sure that Neil Lennon was the right choice and one my neighbours a long standing season ticket holder agrees with me, but time will tell. From a Rangers point of view I think it’s a great appointment, hopefully that won’t come back and bite me on the arse.
Once we see the make up of the squads we will be able tell more.
Lol - I couldn't disagree more!! Lenny, as I've said many times before, is the *perfect* man for this particular job [a two year one to try and secure 10-in-a-row], as he's diehard Celtic man and knows what that means to the club and its supporters. After that we can go for a Benitez, Bilic or whatever, and concentrate more again on Europe. The fundamental focus next season will be on the league, league and nothing but the league!;)
I take your point about Rodgers. However, you have to remember it's BR's team and tactics that Lennon has been 'forced' to use since he came in, and which he has to be given huge credit for managing to successfully utilise to guide the team to winning the two trophies that remained.
You cannot judge any manager on a team he's inherited, so let's see what the 'Lennon Celtic' looks like, and the style that team plays, and judge him then on that basis - and let's not forget he's done it all before with Celtic, so winning titles and cups isn't exactly a new thing for him!
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 10:18
Lol - I couldn't disagree more!! Lenny, as I've said many times before, is the *perfect* man for this particular job [a two year one to try and secure 10-in-a-row], as he's diehard Celtic man and knows what that means to the club and its supporters. After that we can go for a Benitez, Bilic or whatever, and concentrate more again on Europe. The fundamental focus next season will be on the league, league and nothing but the league!;)
I take your point about Rodgers. However, you have to remember it's BR's team and tactics that Lennon has been 'forced' to use since he came in, and which he has to be given huge credit for managing to successfully utilise to guide the team to winning the two trophies that remained.
You cannot judge any manager on a team he's inherited, so let's see what the 'Lennon Celtic' looks like, and the style that team plays, and judge him then on that basis - and let's not forget he's done it all before with Celtic, so winning titles and cups isn't exactly a new thing for him!
Marco.
Time will tell Marco, it was only a couple of weeks ago they were booing him at Celtic Park, but I do agree in main it’s not his team and players so we will see what happens over the summer and next season.
I expect quite a few changes at both Rangers and Celtic.
Definitely, time will tell, Robin. However the "they" in question are simply idiots with completely unrealistic expectations, demanding that the team play swashbuckling football in every match, and as I said completely unrealistic, considering the prevailing circumstances, with a new manager having come in to try and finish the job of the departed one, using his players and tactics.
Realistically, what more could Neil Lennon have done, short of winning [in real terms] a meaningless match against Rangers at Ibrox?
He's won the league, by maintaining and adding to the 8 point lead BR left, and won the Scottish cup convincingly, beating three of the best teams in Scotland in the process, to secure the treble-treble - all under *severe* pressure, from both the fans and media. Anyone attempting to criticise what Lenny's achieved under those conditions in the short time he's been at the club seriously needs their head looked at.
So what's to stop him carrying on from where he left off next season?
In any case, I know as many Celtic fans (proper loyal ones, with some functioning grey matter between their ears) who are, like me, delighted that Lenny's got the job full time, and understand *exactly* the valid reasons for that, so you should start listening to us/them or a change, for a more reasoned and realistic summary of matters!:ner:;)
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 12:59
I think appointing Lennon was the easy option, for the last few years I have with several guys who are season ticket holders at Parkhead and to a man not one of them wanted him as the full time manager, theses are educated guys who have been watching their team for decades, and although they have been happy to give me abuse for the last few years about the state of my team, they are not happy about the new appointment.
There is no argument that Lennon has been successful and won a great deal in Scotland, and as I have said time will tell.
Once again the Celtic captain let himself down towards the end of the game yesterday, there was a very good reason that Brendan was playing him less and less.
I think appointing Lennon was the easy option, for the last few years I have with several guys who are season ticket holders at Parkhead and to a man not one of them wanted him as the full time manager, theses are educated guys who have been watching their team for decades, and although they have been happy to give me abuse for the last few years about the state of my team, they are not happy about the new appointment.
It was only an 'easy option' because he was already in the job. However, that doesn't mean that it wasn't the right one.
Fair enough, the Celtic season ticket holders you know are paying their money, so they're entitled to their opinion, although perhaps next time you could ask them to outline exactly why, according to them that Lennon, given sufficient money to spend on players in the summer (as indeed will be the case), won't be capable of winning another two titles for Celtic, as he did last time he was in charge? Especially when his biggest rivals still have a rookie manager learning his trade, even though he's shown signs of ability.
It's *that* bit I don't get, as I'm not talking about progress in Europe. The Celtic fans I know (including me) would gladly swap any kind of European success whatsoever, in the next two years, for securing 10-in-a-row, which is *precisely* why Lennon is there, so tell me why, when as Celtic manager before he's been up against more proven and successful managers than Gerrard, he's not capable of doing that job?
Btw, that's not to say that Gerrard won't get the better of him (and Celtic) next season - that could well happen for a variety of reasons - but not because Lennon's fundamentally not up to the task, or doesn't have the right credentials, as history both past and recent suggests otherwise.
I missed what Brown did at the end, as I was watching the game late last night, on catch-up, on Celtic TV, and fell asleep towards the end... So what did he do?
Regardless, Broony is still a very capable captain/leader and player, and who would grace most teams in Britain, even some in the EPL. He's certainly no angel though, as indeed many others aren't. The fact is, he gets a LOT of abuse, which he largely takes on the chin.
There have been plenty of Rangers players in the past who's actions on and off the field have left a lot to be desired, and who weren't under the constant spotlight and scrutiny of social media, as Brown is and other players are today. The truth of the matter is that Scott Brown largely gets up the noses of opposition fans and players, because they're jealous that they don't have someone like him in THEIR team!;)
What would Rangers give now for another Andy Goram, Richard Gough, Ian Durrant or Barry Ferguson?
Marco.
rmcin626
26-05-2019, 14:13
Interesting I have just been going through the Sunday papers, and I quote “ his goading of Uche Ikpeazu showed a lack of class”, I just think that any leader/captain of a team should some class.
I think the teams is Scotland should be trying to follow the Ajax example, we need to have Scottish football league and national back at a much higher level.
Until we see who comes in and goes out our respective teams, I will reserve judgement on how well we will do next season, hopefully the Rangers manager has learned from his first season.
Interesting I have just been going through the Sunday papers, and I quote “ his goading of Uche Ikpeazu showed a lack of class”, I just think that any leader/captain of a team should some class.
You mean like Barry Ferguson had, behaving no better than a ned, around Glasgow, while captain of Rangers?;)
Seriously though, I get what you mean, and as you know I don't condone that type of behaviour, but how often do other players set out to goad Brown? He's only human, so can only take so much provocation without reacting. In terms of Ikpeazu, you don't know what history exists from their previous encounters on the pitch.
This, however, I full agree with:
I think the teams is Scotland should be trying to follow the Ajax example, we need to have Scottish football league and national back at a much higher level.
Until we see who comes in and goes out our respective teams, I will reserve judgement on how well we will do next season, hopefully the Rangers manager has learned from his first season.
I'd certainly settle for Celtic emulating Ajax on the pitch, as I'm sure you would with Rangers, as they are the definitive example of what can be achieved by a big club in a small league, compared with the the likes of the EPL or La Liga, but I don't think you can ever 'tame' players with a natural winning mentality/competitive streak, and who are usually a bit of a handful, and in reality you don't want to, as it would dilute their effectiveness and what makes them special.
I'll similarly reserve judgement on how well either team will do next season, until I see what happens this summer in the transfer market.
Marco.
Just watching the L1 playoff - Charlton v Sunderland. Never seen anything like the first goal! Equaliser was a stunner, Phillips relieved! Comeback to win with virtually the last kick - great game (for a neutral - hard luck Sunderland.)
Just watching the L1 playoff - Charlton v Sunderland. Never seen anything like the first goal! Equaliser was a stunner, Phillips relieved! Comeback to win with virtually the last kick - great game (for a neutral - hard luck Sunderland.)
Good to see Charlton get promoted. Always had a soft spot for them; not sure why, but used to be a big club attendance wise when i was young.
As for NF Lennon getting offered the job at Celtic; it was on cards and I guess Rangers fans will be happier with him than a Benitez type, but he is an experienced man and knows club so should be fine. Might not have the charismatic draw to new signings that Gerrard has but I think Celtic want to try and get 10 so are going safety first.
Whether it falls flat or not is irrelevant as a Benitez could have too, then everyone would be saying they should have gone with NFL. Catch22.
I will say this, the pressure on all involved will only increase, so it may be more difficult than many supporters think.... I wont say good luck tho;)
Big well done to the villa for getting promotion at Wembley today. My brummy mate is ecstatic
Never mind that pish, cop a load of this....
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/mIkdH0.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/S7TT25.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/gYUPIv.jpg
:D:D :yay::yay:
Marco.
Did you miss the first picture? Plus there are other pics I could post, showing the streets lined with 1000s of fans, but I wanted to show a close up of the bus:)
The weather didn't help either, as it was pissing down!
Marco.
Did you miss the first picture? Plus there are other pics I could post, showing the streets lined with 1000s of fans, but I wanted to show a close up of the bus:)
The weather didn't help either, as it was pissing down!
Marco.
How many do you reckon are in that first picture?
In other news, that 'pish' as you call it, is the most valuable game in the WORLD.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/Mx8qCq.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/L4Vt4E.jpg
Marco.
How many do you reckon are in that first picture?
In other news, that 'pish' as you call it, is the most valuable game in the WORLD.Yup. Upwards of £170mil. Shocking.. Villa tbh are a big club and should be in the top div. Strange that Leeds just can't get out of the toughest div in world.. The Championship
How many do you reckon are in that first picture?
In other news, that 'pish' as you call it, is the most valuable game in the WORLD.
Sure, and good luck to all who enjoyed it and the supporters of the winning team... But it was of ZERO interest to me, so I couldn't give a fuck how much it was worth. There are more important things in life, and also gauges for success than money. And the only three domestic teams I'm really interested in are Celtic, Liverpool and Man Utd.
In terms of the bit in bold, what's your point, other than trying to be smart? It was taken outside a traditional Celtic supporters pub in the pouring rain in Glasgow. As I said, I deliberately selected pics of the bus itself, because I wanted to highlight the 'Treble Treble' and 'Hoops We Did it Again' bit, not where the biggest crowds were.
How many do you think are in the second and third pictures? But that doesn't suit your agenda, does it...?
Now take this as a warning....
You've been on my case here for a *long* time, just nit-picking and being an irritant, which I've let slide so far, to see how long you'd keep it up for, but ANY more and you'll be gone. If you're to remain here, then from NOW on, get off my case and stop wandering onto threads where I'm posting, just to be a PITA, and contribute constructively instead to other discussions, or you're gone.
Oh, and don't bother responding, trying to justify your behaviour or with back chat. Just do what you've been told, or I'll ban you right now.
Marco.
Changed my mind. I've had enough of your crap, so..... :wave::wave:
Go and annoy someone else, somewhere else.
Marco.
Anyway, good luck to Chris tonight in the Europa League Final with Chelsea!:cool:
Marco.
Anyway, good luck to Chris tonight in the Europa League Final with Chelsea!:cool:
Marco.Which Chris?
chris@panteg, our resident Arsenal supporter. Have you forgotten, daftee?:eyebrows:
Marco.
chris@panteg, our resident Arsenal supporter. Have you forgotten, daftee?:eyebrows:
Marco.
ah, it was worded like a chelsea fan, and i didnt know any:eek:
Yup good luck to the Gunners. There was a link there with Rangers back in the day.
Lol - I'm a total neutral, so will be watching it on that basis, and simply wanting an exciting match with plenty of goals!:D
Marco.
i wont be watching it, period. :ner: i will be in my chariot by then;)
All gone pear shaped for Arsenal
rmcin626
29-05-2019, 20:30
Not looking good now
Not looking good nowYeah 4-1 now. Go behind and chase game, then caught,. Live die repeat
rmcin626
29-05-2019, 21:12
Ended very one sided, the second half was all Chelsea
Yup, Chelsea seemed to want it more and were by far the better team on the night:)
Now, for the big one on Saturday! Come on the 'pool!:more::more:
Meanwhile, this would explain why (according to the blinkered and misguided) there was 'hardly anyone there' for the Celtic Treble-Treble parade in Glasgow, and no proper pictures of such: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48412901
Note the mention of: "thousands of supporters spilled onto the roads";) There really are some clowns around these days who, rather pathetically, allow their obvious bias to cloud their judgement of reality...
Marco.
rmcin626
30-05-2019, 13:42
From what I understand from the local press, the parade ended quite quickly due to safety concerns, although you have to remember that I usually stop reading when I see the word Celtic.
Also looking forward to Saturday, the wife is a big fan of the Liverpool manager so we will be watching, not a big fan of Spurs too be honest, too many over rated players in my opinion.
petered out a bit near the end Robin :eyebrows:
http://rangersrumours.co.uk/images/e4ace23d59191f87eb1683dcbdedb0dc.JPG
Ha - that's a belter!:lolsign:
However, the Rangers trophy cabinet probably has more cobwebs/spiders in it these days than silverware!! You'd be lucky if you could fill a baby's pram with it:ner::ner::lol:
Marco.
From what I understand from the local press, the parade ended quite quickly due to safety concerns, although you have to remember that I usually stop reading when I see the word Celtic.
Also looking forward to Saturday, the wife is a big fan of the Liverpool manager so we will be watching, not a big fan of Spurs too be honest, too many over rated players in my opinion.
Yup, exactly as described in the article I linked to. Apparently thousands of fans were spilling onto the road, which explains the safety concerns... And yes, aside from being a Liverpool fan, I'm also a BIG fan of Klopp.
I like (proper) Germans like him (with a good sense of humour), who are *so* different from the stereotypical examples often discussed, or the idiots you find abroad on Spanish package holidays! In terms of nature, he's just like my wife's German family:)
The reason I have a soft spot for Man Utd, is largely because of Sir Alex Ferguson, the Scottish factor, and of course all the superb teams and players he managed during his era.
Marco.
rmcin626
30-05-2019, 15:33
Yup, exactly as described in the article I linked to. Apparently thousands of fans were spilling onto the road, which explains the safety concerns... And yes, aside from being a Liverpool fan, I'm also a BIG fan of Klopp.
I like (proper) Germans like him (with a good sense of humour), who are *so* different from the stereotypical examples often discussed, or the idiots you find abroad on Spanish package holidays! In terms of nature, he's just like my wife's German family:)
The reason I have a soft spot for Man Utd, is largely because of Alex Ferguson, the Scottish factor, and of course all the superb teams and players he managed in his time there.
Marco.
Always liked Klopp and the way he sets his teams up. I lived in Germany for a couple of years in the early 80’s and apart from the senior managers in the bank I was working in, enjoyed my time there.
I have a soft spot for Bournemouth, but that’s because I lived there for 10 years.
Stratmangler
30-05-2019, 16:24
Has Klopp managed to kill the monkey?
Will it be seven in a row? :eyebrows:
Lol... Btw, I meant to say, I also like to see City winning, for your sake, as long as it's not at the expense of Liverpool, which unfortunately it was this year (and to an extent the 'swampies';))
Marco.
Always liked Klopp and the way he sets his teams up. I lived in Germany for a couple of years in the early 80’s and apart from the senior managers in the bank I was working in, enjoyed my time there.
I have a soft spot for Bournemouth, but that’s because I lived there for 10 years.
Germany is a fabulous country, and most of the people I've met there have been great. They tend to love Scotland (and the Scots), especially drinking malt whisky - and BOY can the Germans drink, but you rarely see them drunk in pubs, or in the streets, and acting like idiots, as you do here with many Brits.
Del's family mostly come from Cologne and Bergisch Gladbach. We've had some great nights out there, including going to see Rammstein play live in Düsseldorf, which was just fab!:cool:
She also has family who live in the mountainous and very scenic Eifel district, which is just beautiful. Loved Berlin when we visited there a few years back, too - a truly superb city!
Marco.
rmcin626
31-05-2019, 12:34
Enjoyed my time in Aachen, Marco although I never really got my head round the carnival in February.
Yeah, Aachen's not far away. I think the only way to 'get' Germans properly, is to spend time living with them in their own country, and in my experience of doing that, they're far from being the 'arrogant robots', devoid of any sense of humour, many wrongly portray them as; in fact my own personal experience, in that respect, makes a complete mockery of that image.
Marco.
was in hamburg for a holiday and enjoyed it and the people. different attitude when at home i think. also they will no doubt have changed a bit with time from the stereotypical German
What's the score in the CL final going to be tonight then, chaps?:cool:
I'll go 3-2 to Liverpool, after extra time!
Marco.
rmcin626
01-06-2019, 16:08
2-0 to Liverpool in normal time
Interesting, and you may well be right, but I see more goals in this one:)
Marco.
rmcin626
01-06-2019, 16:22
Interesting, and you may well be right, but I see more goals in this one:)
Marco.
And if one of the goals was scored by Scotland’s captain I would be really pleased, even though he’s a Celtic fan
Its a one of so could go any way, but im guessing Liverpool will be the more relaxed, yet determined as they lost last year, and have that vital experience.
2-0
3 - 1 Liverpool in normal time.
Teams as expected. 4231 v 433... 433 should win.
Its a one of so could go any way, but im guessing Liverpool will be the more relaxed, yet determined as they lost last year, and have that vital experience.
2-0
six :)
Well, that's two hours of my life I'll never see again. Still, at least a) Liverpool won and b) I didn't have to pay to watch it.
A rather poor match, and arguably one of the worst finals ever [although well done guys for getting the score right], but the result is what matters, and so........................
LIVERPOOL ARE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNERS 2019
AND ONCE MORE CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE!!!! :yay::yay::yay::champagne::champagne::mex:
:clap::clap::clap::clap:
Now, to take the EPL title from City!!!:D;)
Marco.
rmcin626
02-06-2019, 09:32
Very poor game, not sure if the early penalty helped the game.
Wish I could predict the Lotto results.
didnt manage to remain awake alas for all the game. was getting texts in from me app tho. Ive seen all the data etc. The game went as i thought it would. early breakthrough(although earlier than a thought lol) and as the Spurs threw more caution to wind a killer blow.
Liverpool won most of the big head to heads and are worthy champs.
our manager is ecstatic... now can he copy Klopp:D
I think it was a scrappy game partly because we played kick and run. I suspect it was a deliberate strategy. Whatever, it worked.
I think it was a scrappy game partly because we played kick and run. I suspect it was a deliberate strategy. Whatever, it worked.
sure it was, especially if they got ahead early. Liverpools' use of the long ball was good and bypassed Spurs' better midfield.
Firmino wasnt fit, and neither was Kane. I had a feeling Origi would get the last say.
rmcin626
02-06-2019, 10:30
Yeah, very poor game, both teams playing unfit players, well not match fit. Good to see Stevie G. Enjoying himself.
Stratmangler
02-06-2019, 13:15
Well done to Liverpool for winning the Champions League.
The penalty was dubious to say the least, but at least somebody managed to score a goal that wasn't tainted with UEFA ineptitude and curious decision making.
The only bit of the game I saw (and that was this morning, when my son played it back to me) was what led up to the penalty decision, and UEFA managed to show themselves in a very poor light.
I thought they were using VAR, but it's apparent they only use it when it suits UEFA.
Stratmangler
02-06-2019, 13:16
And before somebody starts, there are no sour grapes on my part.
Stratmangler
02-06-2019, 13:19
What I can say is that there will renewed vigour in City's 2nd successive title defence :eyebrows:
And with Liverpool, in terms of wresting it off of you!:ner::eyebrows:
Let's see what happens in the transfer market in the summer, with both teams:)
Marco.
And with Liverpool, in terms of wresting it off of you!:ner::eyebrows:
Let's see what happens in the transfer market in the summer, with both teams:)
Marco.
think Utd may have a big window too; maybe the biggest. and they need it badly....but they have the money
rmcin626
02-06-2019, 15:42
It appears a bit of money will be spent in summer
Stratmangler
03-06-2019, 18:14
And with Liverpool, in terms of wresting it off of you!:ner::eyebrows:
With the number of pointless games they have to play we'll have to see.
There's the Charity Shield, and the UEFA Supercup, and just for good measure there's the World Club Cup in Qatar during the winter break.
City only have one to turn up at.
Some stills from Celtic TV, showing the triumphant GLASGOW CELTIC, season 2018/19, winning yet another TREBLE.....
First the League Cup comes to PARADISE:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/O4WFXM.png
Then another SPL title is won, to secure 8-in-a-row:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/Wp946d.png
Finally, the Scottish Cup is won, to clinch the GLORIOUS TREBLE-TREBLE:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/vlMXyR.png
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/ot54wi.png
And a remarkable and HISTORIC TREBLE-TREBLE is secured:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/AoaL1o.png
Champagne celebrations afterwards:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/nSqzj5.png
YA DANCER!! :yay::yay::yay::champagne::champagne::champagne:
Even Barcelona fans, in defeat, love the unique atmosphere and PASSION of Celtic Park on a Champions League Night:
https://youtu.be/7bGTIFDNmxE
Let's hope that Lenny can lead us to some more glorious nights like that next season!!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/Zd1hla.png
An historic achievement never again to be repeated in Scottish football...??
Time, I guess, will tell...:cool:
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 13:52
Then another SPL title is won, to secure 8-in-a-row:
the clue to the ease of this competition is somewhere in this sentence.. :rolleyes: :;)
Lol... Have you finished yet? What have your team won recently, sweetheart?:ner:
The sum total of Sweet Fanny Adam:D
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 14:02
What have your team won recently, sweetheart?:ner:
The sum total of HEE-HAW:D
err....:ner:
https://i.imgur.com/g4ku8W7.jpg
Ha - thought you were an Everton fan! Someone here is.... Anyway, ah yes, how could I forget, you won this year's diddy competition in Europe!:D
Still, you should be winning that stuff with the obscene amounts of MONEY you've got, and a damn sight more besides, including the EPL! Where were Chelsea before Abramovich arrived...??:ner:
I see Hazard's left to join a decent team:lol:;)
Never mind, you're now another £130m richer......
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 14:06
https://i.imgur.com/S7QkhVY.jpg
thingfish
06-06-2019, 14:10
"The Scottish Highland League" and "Deveronvale"
All else pales into insignificance.
https://i.imgur.com/S7QkhVY.jpg
How many of those trophies were won, pre-Abramovich, and how long ago?
Chelsea: a glorified 'pub team' before the Roman-boy roamed into town....:D;)
At least, Adam, we don't have to buy success.......
Marco.
"The Scottish Highland League" and "Deveronvale"
All else pales into insignificance.
Who's your team then, Alan?:)
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 14:22
How many of those trophies were won, pre-Abramovich, and how long ago?
Marco.
and your point is what ?... you need real wonga to compete..simple.
Chelsea didn't make that perimeter up!!
besides having money behind a club isn't the sole ingredient to success.. just ask Man U*d of recent!
all that history bollo...you make history now! not 'arp on about the past!
all i'm highlighting is, Playing and winning title after title after title, in a truly sub standard competition is a wee bit tedious, no? :scratch: :eyebrows:
thingfish
06-06-2019, 14:29
Who's your team then, Alan?:)
Marco.
Emmmm.......without wishing to be flippant.
Deveronvale (Banff being my hometown).
rmcin626
06-06-2019, 14:32
Emmmm.......without wishing to be flippant.
Deveronvale (Banff being my hometown).
Always good to support your local team Alan
thingfish
06-06-2019, 14:39
I can never understand the vast majority of Scottish fans supporting the old firm whilst not hailing from weegieland (Glasgow).
:scratch:
and your point is what ?... you need real wonga to compete..simple.
Well, my point is you were winning next to nothing before RA arrived, whereas Celtic have been winning trophies (including the European cup with a team of all-Scottish players, from the Celtic academy), and have been competing well in European competitions, near enough since the club's inception. Plus we play in front of 65,000 fans every other week.
You had to BUY success, we didn't.
Yes of course you need "real wonga" to compete, so what do you think Celtic [or Rangers, for that matter] could achieve, with their history and worldwide fanbase, if they had as much "real wonga" as Chelsea (or Man City, or Liverpool)??;)
Therefore, your argument about achievement is completely invalid, in the absence of a level financial playing field.
all that history bollo...you make history now! not 'arp on about the past!
I completely agree, which is why I'm "harping on" about the PRESENT (2019) and the winning yet another TREBLE:D
Instead of poking me about it, why not congratulate me instead, by saying "well done, mate"?:) Otherwise, it comes across as if you've got an agenda.........
all i'm highlighting is, Playing and winning title after title after title, in a truly sub standard competition is a wee bit tedious, no? :scratch: :eyebrows:
Yes, it's almost as tedious as you "highlighting" it's tedious!!
:doh::rolleyes::ner:
Marco.
rmcin626
06-06-2019, 14:47
I can never understand the vast majority of Scottish fans supporting the old firm whilst not hailing from weegieland (Glasgow).
:scratch:
As we all know there is one very clear reason for that, although my local team is Morton, who I still watch a couple of times a season but when I was young my dad would take me to see Rangers or Morton which ever team was at home.
In fact in my teens, along with my mates we had a great time following Morton including the European nights.
Emmmm.......without wishing to be flippant.
Deveronvale (Banff being my hometown).
Cool stuff. When the new season starts, feel free mate to wax lyrical about Deveronvale!:)
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 14:47
Instead of poking me about it, why not congratulate me instead, by saying "well done, mate"?:)
Marco.
I'm just joshing with you fella! It's not a dig and i't certainly isn't an agenda, blimey! :) :D
I can never understand the vast majority of Scottish fans supporting the old firm whilst not hailing from weegieland (Glasgow).
:scratch:
Lol... Glory hunters, eh? What are they like!!:lol:
Marco [born and bred in Glasgow (and also bred in Italy)]
I'm just joshing with you fella! It's not a dig and i't certainly isn't an agenda, blimey! :) :D
That's cool, and I'm glad, as in the absence of any facial clues (just the written word), and given that we don't really know each other, it could've easily been taken differently:)
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 14:53
That's cool, and I'm glad, as in the absence of any facial clues (just the written word), and given that we don't really know each other, it could've easily been taken differently:)
Marco.it's light hearted Marco :)...but i obviously hit a nerve! ;)
As we all know there is one very clear reason for that, although my local team is Morton, who I still watch a couple of times a season but when I was young my dad would take me to see Rangers or Morton which ever team was at home.
In fact in my teens, along with my mates we had a great time following Morton including the European nights.
Ah, so you're a Greenock boy, then Robin? Nice one. I know the area well, and one of my mates is a HUGE Morton fan and season ticket holder. One of my favourite players (and his) of all time is Andy Richie.. World class he was, and should've played at a much higher level.
I seem to remember him scoring a few goals (among them amazing free kicks), back in the day against Rangers and Celtic, when it wasn't a shock for Morton to cuff either of them!:D;)
https://youtu.be/cJQWAGy_7KU
Marco.
it's light hearted Marco :)...but i obviously hit a nerve! ;)
Not really, just the 'raining on someone's parade' thing. Think of it along the same lines of me just having bought a new pair of speakers, which I was over the moon about and waxing lyrical on how amazing they sounded....
....then you come along and tell me that you've heard them, and that they're really a bit crap!!:eek::D
I trust you can see my point?;)
Marco.
thingfish
06-06-2019, 14:57
I would just ban the blue nose bastard Marco.
Just kidding...........:ner:
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 15:03
Not really, just the 'raining on someone's parade' thing. Think of it along the same lines of me just having bought a new pair of speakers, which I was over the moon about and waxing lyrical on how amazing they sounded....
....then you come along and tell me that you've heard them, and that they're really a bit crap!!:D
I trust you can see my point?;)
Marco.
Yes, I get it, with football, at least south of the border, we josh and joust and take the piss.
All light hearted stuff Ol' Bean. ;)
The hifi analogy helped me see the point! :) :cool:
rmcin626
06-06-2019, 15:05
Ah, so you're a Greenock boy, then Robin? Nice one. I know the area well, and one of my mates is a HUGE Morton fan and season ticket holder. One of my favourite players (and his) of all time is Andy Richie.. World class he was, and should've played at a much higher level.
I seem to remember him scoring a few goals, back in the day against Rangers, when it wasn't a shock for Morton to cuff them!:D;)
Marco.
Yes born and live in Greenock, although I’m really a Gourock boy( it’s a local thing), yes Andy Ritchie was a great player and on his day as good as anyone in the country and should have played at a higher level.
Morton have struggled over the years and are in desperate need of a new owner with a few quid, should be interesting to see how they go with yet another new manager.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 15:06
I would just ban the blue nose bastard Marco.
Just kidding...........:ner:
Blue Yes, Bastard?... oh yes.. definitely! ;)
Not really, just the 'raining on someone's parade' thing. Think of it along the same lines of me just having bought a new pair of speakers, which I was over the moon about and waxing lyrical on how amazing they sounded....
....then you come along and tell me that you've heard them, and that they're really a bit crap!!:eek::D
I trust you can see my point?;)
Marco.
Would it be better to lie and say they sound great? (Personally I would do just that, but then I'm naturally polite).
Yes, I get it, with football, at least south of the border, we josh and joust and take the piss.
All light hearted stuff Ol' Bean. ;)
The hifi analogy helped me see the point! :) :cool:
Yup, so do we north of the border, as you'll have noticed with the (good-natured) banter I enjoy with our two resident Rangers fans!:D
However, taking the piss is only best appreciated when you *know* that the recipient 100% isn't going to take it the wrong way... It comes down to the old thing about being laughed WITH, or laughed AT;) One is ok, the other isn't.
Anyway, I'll bear this little 'incident' in mind for future!:cool:
Marco.
WESTLOWER
06-06-2019, 15:26
Anyway, I'll bear this little 'incident' in mind for future!:cool:
:eek:
Yes born and live in Greenock, although I’m really a Gourock boy( it’s a local thing), yes Andy Ritchie was a great player and on his day as good as anyone in the country and should have played at a higher level.
Morton have struggled over the years and are in desperate need of a new owner with a few quid, should be interesting to see how they go with yet another new manager.
Ah, so you're a posh boy?;) Yeah, would love to see Morton back in the SPL. The Renfrewshire derby was always a good one!
Yes, I also know Gourock well. Some lovely properties there, overlooking the sea! Love it up at Kempock Point/Cardwell Bay... Is the Bluebird cafe still there in Cardwell Rd? They used to sell the best coffee and traditional Italian ice-cream I've tasted outside of Italy!
Since you're from Inverclyde then, you may know of the place in Langbank where Del and I had our wedding reception: Gleddoch House: https://gleddoch.com/
:cool:
Marco.
:eek:
:lolsign:
No, you can relax. This time there'll be no horse's head...;)
Marco.
Would it be better to lie and say they sound great? (Personally I would do just that, but then I'm naturally polite).
Lol - no, that would be disingenuous.
Marco.
rmcin626
06-06-2019, 15:45
Ah, so you're a posh boy?;) Yeah, would love to see Morton back in the SPL. The Renfrewshire derby was always a good one!
Yes, I also know Gourock well. Some lovely properties there, overlooking the sea! Love it up at Kempock Point/Cardwell Bay... Is the Bluebird cafe still there in Cardwell Rd? They used to sell the best coffee and traditional Italian ice-cream I've tasted outside of Italy!
Since you're from Inverclyde then, you may know of the place in Langbank where Del and I had our wedding reception: Gleddoch House: https://gleddoch.com/
:cool:
Marco.
Yes the Bluebird cafe is still on the go but with new owners, same ice cream but, I had to there every Sunday when I stayed with my parents. Gourock has changed a bit in the last couple of years but still has some great houses.
I’ve been to Gleddoch several times and played golf there as well, some great views on the back nine.
As I worked for CalMac ferries until I took early retirement a few weeks ago, I have also worked in Gourock for the last 35 years and mum still lives there.
Yes the Bluebird cafe is still on the go but with new owners, same ice cream but, I had to there every Sunday when I stayed with my parents. Gourock has changed a bit in the last couple of years but still has some great houses.
I’ve been to Gleddoch several times and played golf there as well, some great views on the back nine.
As I worked for CalMac ferries until I took early retirement a few weeks ago, I have also worked in Gourock for the last 35 years and mum still lives there.
Cool stuff, mate. In that case, I'll be heading there again next time I'm up in Paisley, visiting relatives. Not too far down the M8/A8 in the Brabster....;) Might be good to hook up?:)
Not been in Gourock since about 1998.... So I'm certain it'll have changed! Used to love going across to Dunoon on the ferry (for business and pleasure), so your connection with CalMac is interesting! Wish I'd known you then, as I might've got a discount:D
Yes, there were (and I'm sure still are) some fabulous old houses in Gourock. I'd always fancied living there, but that was before I moved down to Wales. I like Wemyss Bay, too. The local hotel there was always a favourite haunt of ours.
Marco.
rmcin626
06-06-2019, 16:26
Cool stuff, mate. In that case, I'll be heading there again next time I'm up in Paisley, visiting relatives. Not too far down the M8/A8 in the Brabster....;) Might be good to hook up?:)
Not been in Gourock since about 1998.... So I'm certain it'll have changed! Used to love going across to Dunoon on the ferry (for business and pleasure), so your connection with CalMac is interesting! Wish I'd known you then, as I might've got a discount:D
Yes, there were (and I'm sure still are) some fabulous old houses in Gourock. I'd always fancied living there, but that was before I moved down to Wales. I like Wemyss Bay, too. The local hotel there was always a favourite haunt of ours.
Marco.
Yeah give me a shout next time you’re up here, would be good to meet up, there have been a few changes to Gourock, would be good to see what you think of the changes.
I worked on the Gourock - Dunoon ferry many years ago when I was still sailing staff, our service has been passenger only since 2011.
Wemyss Bsy is a lot bigger now, and sorry to the say the hotel has gone, my nephew had his wedding reception there, but the site is going to be a Co-op store apparently.
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 10:29
As chance would have it Marco, as I going to see my mum this morning, I was stopped at the lights for the road works26224
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Not sure how to make the image bigger.
Yeah give me a shout next time you’re up here, would be good to meet up, there have been a few changes to Gourock, would be good to see what you think of the changes.
I worked on the Gourock - Dunoon ferry many years ago when I was still sailing staff, our service has been passenger only since 2011.
Wemyss Bsy is a lot bigger now, and sorry to the say the hotel has gone, my nephew had his wedding reception there, but the site is going to be a Co-op store apparently.
Ah, shame about the WB hotel. It was particularly good in the 70s, through to the early 80s, as they had an excellent chef. Didn't know about cars being stopped now on the ferry - do you know why that decision was taken? It'll be a hell of a long way round now to Dunoon!:eek:
One of my first hotel/corporate contacts for pictures, when I first started my business, was the Selbourne Hotel, in Dunoon. Not especially salubrious, but there were plenty of walls onto which artwork was required... At the time I didn't know it was part of large-ish chain, and the manager there was so pleased with the work I'd done, he spoke to their head office and I ended up with the contract to do all the hotels in the group, dotted around British seaside resorts!
I then used the work I'd done for them as an advert and way to get into larger hotel chains, building up a portfolio as I went along, eventually providing corporate artwork for the Forte Group, Holiday Inn, etc.. That gave the business a good kickstart and helped to grow it in the early days, and is largely the reason I was able to semi-retire early:)
Ah yes, I get the picture lol, even if it's tiny! The Bluebird Cafe... Has it been done up inside now, or is it still like something out of the 1960s? I actually rather enjoyed its 'distressed retro charm'!
If memory serves me correctly, there was also another superb cake/coffee shop somewhere else I think just outside of Gourock, perhaps just as you come into the town from Greenock, on the right hand side. Used to stop there for a bite to eat. Not sure if you know where I mean?
Marco.
P.S Will defo give you a shout next time I'm up!:cool:
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 11:39
Ah, shame about the WB hotel. It was particularly good in the 70s, through to the early 80s, as they had an excellent chef. Didn't know about cars being stopped on the ferry - do you know why that decision was taken? It'll be a hell of a long way round now to Dunoon!:eek:
You can still go to Dunoon by ferry by Western Ferries, CalMac are subject to EU tendering processes and subsidies, and only receive a subsidy for a passenger service town centre to town centre.
One of my first hotel/corporate contacts for pictures, when I first started my business, was the Selbourne Hotel, in Dunoon. Not especially salubrious, but there were plenty of walls onto which artwork was required... At the time I didn't know it was part of large-ish chain, and the manager there was so pleased with what I'd done, he spoke to their head office and I ended up with the contract to do all the hotels in the group, dotted around British seaside resorts!
I then used the work I'd done for them as advert and way to get into larger hotel chains, building up a portfolio as I went alone, eventually doing work for the Forte Group, Holiday Inn, etc.. That gave the business a good kickstart and helped to grow it in the early days, and is largely the reason I was able to semi-retire early:)
Ah yes, I get the picture lol, even if it's tiny! The Bluebird cafe... Has it been done up inside now, or is it still like something out of the 60s? I actually rather enjoyed its 'retro charm'!
If my memory serves, there was also another superb cake/coffee shop somewhere else I think just outside of Gourock, perhaps just as you come into it from Greenock, on the right hand side. Used to stop there for a bit to eat. Not sure if you know where I mean?
There is another cafe/coffee shop just as you come into Gourock at the Battery Park, the current name is One Cove Road, but used to be the Cardwell Bay Cafe and also sold good cakes.
Marco.
At some point I will need someone to explain to me how I can have full size photos using Tapatalk.
Grant's your best man for that:)
Do you know that other cake shop/cafe I was talking about?
Marco.
think it depends how big pics are on device Robin. dont think there is a setting on tapatalk.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/cHofK9.jpg
That's as big as I can get the pic.
Marco.
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 11:47
Maybe I need to check the settings on my iPhone?
I thought I could just attach the photos when using Tapatalk.
Ah I see you answered those questions in your last post, by lumping them in with a quote of what I'd written, so l'll separate it out...
You can still go to Dunoon by ferry by Western Ferries, CalMac are subject to EU tendering processes and subsidies, and only receive a subsidy for a passenger service town centre to town centre.
There is another cafe/coffee shop just as you come into Gourock at the Battery Park, the current name is One Cove Road, but used to be the Cardwell Bay Cafe and also sold good cakes.
Yes, One Cove Road looks like the same place - it was pretty awesome even back then, as the Cardwell Bay Cafe!:)
Good news about the ferry, otherwise it'd have been a nightmare....
Marco.
Maybe I need to check the settings on my iPhone?
I thought I could just attach the photos when using Tapatalk.
check if camera can take bigger ones and check you are not compressing size to save space. sometimes the phone will reduce the pixel size for storing on device. iphones can do this. it often saves a bigger one to icloud tho
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 14:36
Ah I see you answered those questions in your last post, by lumping them in with a quote of what I'd written, so l'll separate it out...
Yes, One Cove Road looks like the same place - it was pretty awesome even back then, as the Cardwell Bay Cafe!:)
Good news about the ferry, otherwise it'd have been a nightmare....
Marco.
Apologies for the confusion
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 14:53
check if camera can take bigger ones and check you are not compressing size to save space. sometimes the phone will reduce the pixel size for storing on device. iphones can do this. it often saves a bigger one to icloud tho
As I am keen to advertise a few things, I was hoping that I could load to Tapatalk and just attach the saved image from my iPhone XR.
As I am keen to advertise a few things, I was hoping that I could load to Tapatalk and just attach the saved image from my iPhone XR.
no reason why the pics shouldnt come out a good size really. its a 12 mp camera so size is good.
rmcin626
07-06-2019, 15:01
no reason why the pics shouldnt come out a good size really. its a 12 mp camera so size is good.
That’s what I thought
Apologies for the confusion
No worries:)
Marco.
...as part of the Celtic coaching staff: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/henrik-larsson-in-frame-celtic-16479619
Now *THAT* (if it happens) would certainly help entice top players to the club, among other things!!:eyebrows:
Marco.
Read that. Good player. Don't know what his coaching is like but certainly a name
GOOD player??:eek::eek::nono::D
Arguably the best foreign player ever to grace Scottish football, and WORLD CLASS!! My favourite Celtic player of all time too, although Jinky would be in there - just a bit before my time to have seen the best of him.
However, if Larsson comes, he won't be here to play... Coaching-wise, I don't know, although his managerial record is nothing to shout about. However, for me, him and Lennon could bounce off each other well, and player wise, the name would certainly make signing for Celtic quite a bit 'sexier'.
We'll see what happens:cool:
Marco.
rmcin626
08-06-2019, 17:47
GOOD player??:eek::eek::nono::D
Arguably the best foreign player ever to grace Scottish football, and WORLD CLASS!! My favourite Celtic player of all time too, although Jinky would be in there - just a bit before my time to have seen the best of him.
However, if Larsson comes, he won't be here to play... Coaching-wise, I don't know, although his managerial record is nothing to shout about. However, for me, him and Lennon could bounce off each other well, and player wise, the name would certainly make signing for Celtic quite a bit 'sexier'.
We'll see what happens:cool:
Marco.
Good player, at times unstoppable not sure about his coaching abilities.
As for best foreign player, that would be a big discussion and would also depend on the definition of foreign.
Good player, at times unstoppable not sure about his coaching abilities.
As for best foreign player, that would be a big discussion and would also depend on the definition of foreign.Yup very open to opinion. There's been a few good uns over the years.
Well, I wouldn't class English as 'foreign', so that rules out Gazza, whom in my opinion was one of the few genuinely world class players to grace Scottish football.
Other than that, for me, only Laudrup could lace Larsson's boots, world-class wise. Nakamura and Moravcik also come into that category. Who else would you suggest?:)
Marco.
George Best was the best, although he was passed his best(there's that name again).
Yup on natural ability gazza would pip most. Lubo would be my pick from Celts followed by larsson. Laudrup is up there too.
The guy latapy was top drawer too
I suppose Caniggia of Argentina would have get a mention too. He got 50caps when they were one of the best nations
rmcin626
08-06-2019, 18:50
Personally I thought Lubo was a great player and if you include Irish players, that would bring in Robbie Keen who was not too shabby at finishing.
Had the pleasure of seeing Best play, what a player but past his best up here.
As for the Rangers, Gaza truly world class, there were also a couple of Dutch boys who were not bad players.
Also Laudrup was pretty decent.
For those with good memories Dundee also had a decent Italian striker on their books for awhile.
Oh and Frank Sauze.of hibs. excuse spelling.
We were lucky at times as England were out of Europe. But yes all the Dutch lads like van bronkhorst, Newman, de boer oh and big stephan Kloss of Germany in goal. Celtic had majalby, hokijonk and Petrov. Nakamura etc.
Yeah great times in Many ways although it caused financial issues for many clubs
rmcin626
08-06-2019, 19:03
Oh and Frank Sauze.of hibs. excuse spelling.
We were lucky at times as England were out of Europe. But yes all the Dutch lads like van bronkhorst, Newman, de boer oh and big stephan Kloss of Germany in goal. Celtic had majalby, hokijonk and Petrov. Nakamura etc.
Yeah great times in Many ways although it caused financial issues for many clubs
I agree some fantastic players, much better to watch that current product
Looks like Turnbull's on the way: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/48616994
Should be a decent addition:)
Marco.
thingfish
12-06-2019, 20:38
Souness, now that we're a player .........firm but fair in the tackling department.
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Wot - when he played for Liverpool, Rangers or Scotland?;)
Couldn't lace Terry Hurlock's boots....:D
Marco.
rmcin626
12-06-2019, 20:51
Wot - when he played for Liverpool, Rangers or Scotland?;)
Couldn't lace Terry Hurlock's boots....:D
Marco.
Souness was a fine player, although struggled with playing in Scotland, loved his time in Italy had so much time on the ball.
thingfish
12-06-2019, 20:59
Well I think this players retaliation on poor Mr Souness was absolutely shocking......
Graham hardly touched the lad.........
https://www.google.com/search?q=souness+bad+tackle&oq=souness+bad+tackle&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.10753j0j7&client=ms-android-motorola&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
The dirty bastard quite obviously scratched Graham's calf........
rmcin626
12-06-2019, 21:10
It wood be great, if Rangers had a player with that skill and control of the midfield now.
thingfish
12-06-2019, 21:27
+1 Robin.
It is without doubt what is sorely lacking in today's Scottish Premiership.
:D
Souness was a fine player, although struggled with playing in Scotland, loved his time in Italy had so much time on the ball.
Yeah, I totally agree. Dirty bassa though, but not quite in 'Warlock's' league;) Was it Sampdoria that Souness played for?
Anyway, we've got BROONY:more::D
Marco.
rmcin626
13-06-2019, 06:28
Yeah, I totally agree. Dirty bassa though, but not quite in 'Warlock's' league;) Was it Sampdoria that Souness played for?
Anyway, we've got BROONY:more::D
Marco.
Yes he played for Sampdoria and in his first season they won the Coppa Italia.
Does this signing fill you with much excitement: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48626019
I don't know much about him.
Marco.
rmcin626
13-06-2019, 17:55
Does this signing fill you with much excitement: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48626019
I don't know much about him.
Marco.
He was at Aberdeen on loan last season, squad player although happy to be proved wrong.
Looks like Turnbull's on the way: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/48616994
Should be a decent addition:)
Marco.Looks like he might not be. Silly English league money it seems.
He was at Aberdeen on loan last season, squad player although happy to be proved wrong.Was at Killy first half of season and did very well as a floater behind main striker, but dons had him out on a wing I think.
Decent player with a good work ethic. Should do fine
Talk is we may have won the signature of Joe Aribo. I would be surprised if we do, but always hopeful; I think he is a decent player and sensible t'boot. Also more talk on Kenty, although I will believe that when I see it.
Celtic yet to get any over the line but they are interested in a few good uns too including Rekeem Harper who I fancied for us...
Yups... Early days yet with transfer shenanigans. I've seen us linked with so many different players I've lost count!:doh::)
No doubt we'll hear more in the next couple of weeks.
Marco.
The lad Oji has Come up from Liverpool I see. Right winger I think.
May be a decent lad, I've heard he's quick
Charlie Gilmour possibly heading to Norwich (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/charlie-gilmour-set-norwich-rangers-16531394)? Could be a good signing for us.
Stratmangler
18-06-2019, 10:50
Charlie Gilmour possibly heading to Norwich (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/charlie-gilmour-set-norwich-rangers-16531394)? Could be a good signing for us.
Hardly played for Arsenal, although that's not uncommon in the Premier League, where all the big hitters are very wary of putting their youngsters into situations where they might be out of their depth and make too many errors.
If he does sign he'll be with one player I do rate, and that's Patrick Roberts, who has signed for Norwich on a loan deal.
Charlie Gilmour possibly heading to Norwich (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/charlie-gilmour-set-norwich-rangers-16531394)? Could be a good signing for us.
Big Gers fan is Charlie. A decent player who needs games.
If he does sign he'll be with one player I do rate, and that's Patrick Roberts, who has signed for Norwich on a loan deal.
Yes, I think that's a good bit of business for us - cheers for the lend! :D
Looks like both Turnbull and celtic have had a change of heart and the transfer is back on again.
It's an odd one as celtic are not really short of top players there, unless they are selling one.
Over the other side of cuty Rangers look to have Edmunson of Oldham. Had a medical today so hopefully passed and agreed.
Still awaiting the lad Aribo.
Looks like both Turnbull and celtic have had a change of heart and the transfer is back on again.
I thought we'd bagged him (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4387708/celtic-david-turnbull-complete-norwich-move-agreeing-terms/) - (he'd apparently agreed personal terms?) so not sure what's happened, but it does look like he's off to Celtic (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48712448). I don't know how good he is apart from a cursory read of the reports but onto the next one I guess! All good fun this transfer malarky!
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