I'm enjoying reading this thread with a nice big bag of Marshmallows.
Who needs bloody Eastenders ;)
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I'm enjoying reading this thread with a nice big bag of Marshmallows.
Who needs bloody Eastenders ;)
Or, indeed, your current partner ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatGig
me too, but it's banana and custard for me. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by southall-1998
You are right to :scratch: Martin. As a marriage is civil. Perhaps I should take more care to explain things, but it wasn't really integeral to what I was trying to say. I probably added to much of my personal life to that post anyway :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
Sounds nice!! Nice to have a snack when a thread like this is going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by mido
Indeed, Frank, and it's something I'll be tackling later in my response to Alfie.Quote:
Nobody yet has mentioned why the WW is being cited for libel from more than one quarter I am led to believe and as for Google's "inappropriate content" threat to withdraw, the mind boggles what that could be, given the track record of the wammers.
The fact is, the 'boisterous' behaviour (let's be polite and call it that) by the 'natives' on Wigwam are obviously causing a MAJOR problem for James, both in terms of threats of litigation, and the personal stress he's been under, so quite frankly I'm appalled at the selfishness shown by some of their members, and their attitude of 'The Wam will be the Wam'.
Who exactly is paying for them to have that privilege? And I'm not talking about just in monetary terms! Well, IMO, if The Wam continues to be the Wam, sooner rather than later, there will be no Wam!! What then??
I think more consideration is needed into sympathising with why James felt so perturbed by the situation that he had to CLOSE the forum in order to escape from dealing with all the crap.
If people genuinely care about Wigwam (and James), then that situation CANNOT be allowed to happen again, and so something RADICAL must be done now to ensure that is the case.
It's a classic situation of putting your own selfish needs before the genuine best interests of the forum, and the guy who has the headaches and puts his neck on the block, to provide the community that they seemingly can't live without.
Marco.
i must confess that i did have eastenders on in the background as well though. :)
Well WW is now fully open and a new AUP will be in force shortly. In full the changes to the AUP are
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There will be a new AUP in force by the end of the week.
in short, it will say:
If you libel anyone it's on your head and you agree to indemnify the forum against any damages arising.
If you libel or slander anyone on the forums you will have your posts deleted and your posting rights removed for a period of 24hrs, if you do it twice, you will not be welcome back.
If you want access to the sweary, more WIGWAMMY old school Pub Car park and otehr soon to be hidden areas you will have to prove a few things:
1. That you are not a whiny thin skinned litigious prick.
So no change at all really, the pack are still free to roam and kill at will. To be honest I had hoped for a bit more.
I don't usually have the opportunity or access to comment on many threads early on, but a couple of things occur to me -
Someone I know coaches a kids' football team who play in a county league every weekend. He spends ages coordinating the parents and kids, running training sessions, engaging with the league and turning up in all weathers in strange places every Sunday for the matches. In return he seems to get grief from the parents of his team over everything he does (eg decisions on selection, playing position, tactics, travel arrangements) and from the opposing team and their entourage. He does it for the love of it and it's a good thing that people like him do.
Secondly, it's only rock 'n' roll, as I think someone may once have said.
Pete
Off topic, but as I understand it, when you call someone a berk, it is actually short for some cockney rhyming slang; the full phrase being Berkshire Hunt.
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Originally Posted by alfie2902
Which just about sums up 31 pages and 300-odd postings on AoS.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBL
Marco, can you do us all a great bit favour and slap a padlock on this one, or better still shred the entire wretched thing?
Best thing posted in this thread yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Effem
Mmmm... I appreciate where you're coming from, Frank, but a padlock is unnecessary at this stage, and something we're loathe to use, unless under exceptional circumstances.
Besides, I've still to reply to Alfie, and it would be rude not to do so, after the time he took to write his earlier post! :)
Marco.
Many thanks, Chris, for concealing your apathy so well! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stratmangler
Marco.
Disinterest is the word you're looking for - it's been three days FFS :mental:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
On second thoughts, Alfie, no offence, but I think that enough has been said, so dude, let's leave it there :)
There's no need to lock the thread, though (I hate locking threads), so let's just let it die a natural death, and end things on a positive note, by reading the words of gratitude being extended to AoS (and pfm) by Wammers:
http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?57170-Pfm
No worries, guys. It's important that all the UK audio forums always try to help each other. We wish Wigwam and its members all the best, and hope that the future of your community is a bright one!
Play nice(ish), you cnuts (typo intended), and try and give James a quiet life!! :eyebrows:
Anyway, see all yooz daftees next year at Scalford! :cool:
Laters,
Marco.
As a neutral observer the words Toys and Pram come to mind. In my view never was a possibility of Wam closing. Reading the new AUP and list of moderators I note this is followed by the announcement that the Forum is being registered as a Limited Company. Smacks of a commercial money making exercise rather than a hobby/service on the part of the owner. Lets put it this way he had no real intention of letting go of this baby. Also posted earlier of owning 'rights' to the Scalford show. Hardly lines up with the idea of a co-operative of hi-fi enthusiasts coming together.
Have to say, never heard of this "WigWam" thing before reading this 32 page epic. As a first time poster, may I ask - Was it really anything to do with Red Indians???:eek:
Or just an excuse for folk with too much time on their hands to continually "Bitch slap" each other?:ner:
Let music touch your soul!
Don't you lot ever give it a rest?
Yup, Andre's right, so let's leave it there guys - cheers!
Marco.
A word in support of James for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audioman
The limited liability is just that - to limit his liability to the capital of the company, which can be kept at virtually nil. So they cannot go for his personal assets like his house.
But the forum can be closed by a successful libel case, and it depends on if he is culpable personally in the libel as he could still be sued as an individual, he should avoid naming anyone as the responsible publisher in the forum as they can be gone for individually as well, Ltd company or not.
Also with no win no fee lawyers constantly punting for business, running a forum is a risky business. But it should always be remembered the publisher of a libel (forum owner and interestingly responsible mods) is only liable after the fact i.e. the individual who made the post in the first place.
Thanks for your comment Richard. It did occur to me after making the post that this may have something to do with the libel threat. Would have made more sense to do this earlier or on setting up the forum. I just think forums would be better set up as a club or possibly a charity for those suffering from Hi-Fi obsessive behavior. :lolsign:
I would like to thank the AOS membership for welcoming us here whilst the WAM was shut down. Your hospitality was tremendous. The moderating of this thread, I know it cant have been an easy job, was quite superb.
And a big thank you to Marco for his reserves of tolerance.
Stewart
Hi Stewart,
Thanks for that, mate. You're more than welcome :)
Good to see that things are back up and running for you guys again - and long may it continue! :cool:
Marco.
I think that sums up the Wam perfectly :lol::eyebrows::lolsign::mental:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
I for one am glad the Wam is back up!
I don't see why peeps get so upset. I use Wam and Here (and others) and find all of them compliment each other in their own way.
Butuz
wam is back .....a quick look see the same idiots using the samr language ...and the same arguments ...its almost if they want to close it down !
Hi Pete,
Thanks for bringing that to our attention. However, I don't think that hosting a running commentary on what's happening on Wigwam, now that the site has reopened, is something that is liable to be of benefit to AoS, so please, let's just leave the guys on Wigwam now to get on with it :)
Marco.
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Originally Posted by zanash
Yep, it was a big mistake giving infant schools pc's and internet access.
Just before it fully re-opened, they opened up the classifieds and asked for wammers. It stated if you didn't like the wam you could *'@! off! Says it all really. How to turn an interesting place of discussion, debate and solidarity into a juvenille playground. I've given up with forums, too many heroes and wanna be's who couldn't cut it in the real world.
Right, enough. I think it's time to close this one!
Marco.