They look like my old pair
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[QUOTE=bogle111;298347]The only trouble with JBL is their illogical numbering system. Never did learn it. L200A, L200B all about x'overs and cabinets I believe. Mirror image cabinets? - the only L200 models I remember had 2 units: horn above the bass unit. Only ever saw one pair of Jubals for sale in Germany a long time ago, for about £1400 equiv. too much, too far then.
L200's were the domestic equivalent of the 4325 and used the 2420 compression drive and LE15B bass units, and there lies the problem. The LE15a or 2215 (its pro designation) is a fantastic speaker. The LE15B is not and produces a boomy fat bass. Apparently the L200 was designed for rich corporate types who wanted studio monitors in their home. The JBL enginers / marketing men decided that these buyers would prefer a fatter base.
I had a pair (later verions with a better looking grillcloth) along with the 4333b's and the L200 were much improved by substituting the LE15B for a 2235 and suitable crossover. I also added 2405 slot tweeters with an N8000 crossover. Ultimately they were very close to the 4333B and INHO better looking.
I also had another pair plus a single of large JBL studio monitors at the same time as the others. These all went when I got my Array 1400's
This was taken about 9 years ago
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1208590771...84.m1423.l2649
Well it went for £1,195. Some what higher than 'my' £205, but a reasonable price nonetheless.
.....and the Sequerra went for £1470.
There's a very rare Tangent Lupus Princeps/Lupus Servus Pre/Pwr amp presently running..
Someone got a bit of a bargain:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2709134163...84.m1423.l2649 :)
:lol: Shame the turntable's not on offer
can't remember if i posted this before but it caught my eye again for it's quirkyness
I reckon that those Grampian drive units would be pretty good, if housed in proper cabinets... Probably worth the outlay for those alone. It would make a nice DIY project for someone :)
Marco.
P.S I'm going to collect your coffee grinder tomorrow.
Lovely,could see that doing sterling service as a pa in a folk club.
Should be left as is,none of this modifying and ripping the speakers out malarky.
Hi Paul,
Lol... Well, I'd argue that the drivers are probably far too good for PA duties in a folk club and would be far better used for serious hi-fi purposes.Quote:
Lovely,could see that doing sterling service as a pa in a folk club.
Should be left as is,none of this modifying and ripping the speakers out malarky.
The cabinets can then be retained and filled with any pish you like to play Val Doonican down the local pub! ;)
Marco.
Talkin of Panties, if anyone sees any Orange 'Y' fronts let me know :eyebrows:
Bawbags! :lol: :lol:
Orange won't hide the skidders though, dude! :eyebrows:
Marco.
That's what 'Tena for Men' panty-liners are for!! :lol:
Marco.
It ain't ebay, but this looks like a pretty good deal:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/mu...1-dac/96971646
An m1 dac for 200 notes.
Here's one for all the suckers out there
The principal is excellent, just way, way, over engineered, and will beat any clamp or weight sold, and that is from someone that marketed Michell's clamp to the UK when new. No good on suspended belt drives though for obvious reasons. There are easier ways to do this though.
Usually sell in Japan for at least £150 more than that. That seems like a fair price even with the BS.
I'd rather have this than this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2307522129...84.m1423.l2649
Got one in the drawer for decades.
Great find, but bet the final price will be a lot higher. Is it going to affect the price of older Ardens and Berkeleys? Tempted to sell my B's now, only jesting. Interesting that the xover dials are pre HPD385A & B and that this is their FIRST sale (0)!
Regards
Pete
they look nice :)
Some Rega Jura 2's. Good looking, vintage Tannoy-like tonal balance and this pair are cheap...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REGA-JURA-...item4ab4635830
P.S. Jura 1's had a black base and the drivers were set slightly lower in the cabs (from memory). The bass was better on the mk2,not needing the "sideways sponge bung" treatment...
When did you hear Jura's Marco, which ones and what with? They've certainly got far less midrange colouration than many Tannoys out there, they sparkle like the DC tweeters can and do (in 6, 8, 10 and 12" models anyway) and the bass on the mk2 Jura rolls out in a fairly similar way. Your Lockwoods are NOT standard in any shape or form now and a rather different kettle of fish to what everyone else would hear from a commercial pair of 1970's Tannoys on the open market..
I didn't say I didn't like them, quite the opposite, and sold a good many. FAR more fun than spiteful old Ela's any day :)
Hi Guys,
Reckon the Jura's would be an improvement on Royd Doublets ?
Tony
It may be possible to get them serviced, should a driver be blown accidentally. Not sure Royds can be repaired now, but could be totally wrong in this assumption.
Hi Dave,
I've heard Jura's both in a friend's system and in a dealer's demo room. They were ok little floorstanders, albeit it rather 'fruity' in the bass. Not really my thing. I much preferred the Naos, which to my ears, were more realistic and much less 'fluffy' and coloured sounding.Quote:
When did you hear Jura's Marco, which ones and what with? They've certainly got far less midrange colouration than many Tannoys out there, they sparkle like the DC tweeters can and do (in 6, 8, 10 and 12" models anyway) and the bass on the mk2 Jura rolls out in a fairly similar way. Your Lockwoods are NOT standard in any shape or form now and a rather different kettle of fish to what everyone else would hear from a commercial pair of 1970's Tannoys on the open market..
However, as to them sounding anything like vintage Tannoys, for me, NO WAY. Forgetting about my Lockwoods, which you wouldn't even mention in the same breath as Juras (:eek:), all the other vintage Tannoys I've heard (12 and 15" HPDs, Monitor Reds and Golds) present music in a totally different way because of their DC design, to thin floorstanding speakers with dome tweeters and teeny-weeny bass drivers, in comparison to what is considered the norm with vintage Tannoys.
Sorry, Dave, I don't really know where you're coming from with this! :scratch:
Marco.
Fancy an old scrubber?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goodmans-s...item1c243bc048Interesting big, old Goodman's
Anyone know anything about them?
Know nothing about those Martin, but somehow don't think they are as old as they are billed. Also found this gauge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007195391...84.m1423.l2649
That's a nice olde worlde gauge, but a touch expensive? I guess it'll go into someone's collection.
Nein
Is it me or are things are getting expensive imho (even the truly crap) ?
prices rise gradually for sure Andre, but on ebay it seems to ebb and flow a little - high and then low, there's a lot variables involved.
Bassy Juras are mk1 models. The Mk2's are more like the Naos, but smaller.. You're just going to have to come down to our level and accept the good things a smaller carefully designed driver can do. The midband on Jura's was really good and got better and better as the system did, as do the current models Rega make. I bet they'd compare fairly well with IIILZ''s, which are a bit ragged I remember (I'll get a listen to Dave W's pair as well as his too-middy LGM's next time I'm there), and also Eatons and Devons. I would *suggest* that the Jura 2's would communicate the message in a similar vein and the treble sparkle is no worse than a typical small DC tweeter in full song and far better than the ear-bleeding D100's the rep sold us unheard - and then scarpered, never to return.....
All subjective innit?
It's a quirk of the human psyche that when prices rise, people are more likely to want the item....
Their confidence that a product or item is a good one is strongest when they see others paying a high price for them.
Sometimes you even see people state that such and such "must be good owing to the high-prices they demand.." and so the desire for one builds. Then they see similar items at lower prices, feel that those then must be bargains and 'sleepers' and so the prices for them rise too...
Crazy positive feedback loops that crowds of people generate in all sorts of areas.
So true - *if* you are susceptible to the effects of that type of psychology. Thank goodness, I'm not. In that respect, I've always been a leader, more than a follower, which as a result of that mentality, is one of the reasons why AoS was born :)
Marco.
Idea case for your Raspberry Pi media player project
(some of the questions and answers are a good read)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...26#description