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Rats nest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
No, but there's 3 four way blocks daisy-chained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Get something like this mate. I use similar screwed to the back of the racks.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165311609...Bk9SR5zW9N3PZg
Must add something into the sound ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Why should it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
depends what's plugged into them.....amplifier, preamp, CDP, TV, AV amp, Kettle, toaster.....:uhho:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
You forgot the ghd hair straighteners :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
All that will do is to blow the fuse as the load, if all are switched on, exceeds 3kW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Mind you a fancy mains distribution strip, 'blessed' by an audio retailer will make better toast! :D
:lol:
None of that's to do with the main system that has its own wall sockets.
TV system runs of it though and that sounds great.
My main system has its own separate ring main of 18 sockets fed by a separate 30A RCMCB, connected to the meter via a Henley bock.
The only non-audio item connected to it is a side light, and sometimes a laptop or phone charger.
Mines runs on "thoughts 'n prayers" :)
Back in the day when I was looking into this power stuff, the findings of a guy called Roy Riches played a big part?
Good back and forth with him when I was setting my stuff up.
Got me thinking of benefits of balanced power, tight connections, quality fuses and the like.
Was all confirmed at a session of the "Scottish Mafia" AOS group at mine, where Ali brought over his self built balanced mains unit, not a jaw didnt hit the floor when we plugged it in.
One of those Hifi memories you remember!
And set me on a path,
Jeez, how many years ago was THAT Ali?
We're getting old man...
Barry,
I would incorporate a discrete 30amp supply setup like yours, along with my current 10KVA balanced mains TX if I could, but its not possible where I live at the moment.
Its the way to go 100%.
It's been a while since then mate lol. Yeah it made quite a difference at your place, biggest difference I've heard it make.
RCA shorting caps for unused RCA inputs on the Serene preamp, May dac and Shanling CD Transport.
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Nice wee bump in soundstage focus, learned with tweaking my previous PS Audio dac, shorting the inputs could reduce electrical noise getting into the unit, worked well with the Holo Audio gear as well.
Cool.
Posties been...
Upgrade for my Holo Audio dac.
Looking to maximise what I have and this is 'appropriate' for the May KTE.
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Out with the old...
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New Pink fuse
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The May is my final dac, and I know from experience over the years the improvement the SR Fuses can bring.
Had a few over the years, and use them throught my System now.
the only ones I didnt get on with was the SR Blue.
There was 2A Purple fuse in the Dac which replaced the stock Holo Audio fuse.
I'll find a place elsewhere in the system for it.
The Pink (from various forums scattered across the Web) is a good step better than the Purple, particularly in a lower noise floor, a quality the dac excels at, so will be a good match.
Dynamics and soundstage depth too are supposed to be noticably better from those who have compared them.
Shall see, fitting it later this evening.
EDIT
Sounds noticably "different' from the Purple, from experience its gonna be up and down for at least a few weeks.
Plumbed it in, just going to sit back and let it do its thing.
All about bringing out the best of my Holo Audio gear, my Serene KTE preamp still has the stock Holo Red fuse, but not going there as the Pre is still new and sound is still all over the place as the amp burns in.
Will put another SR Pink in there after another couple of months on it and call it done.
Stepping off the Fuse Train after this,
Holo gear has the Pinks, the rest has Purples, which will be Job 'Jobbed.
Is the Pink fuse new to SR? It will be interesting to know if it performs even better than the purple. I am convinced fuses like these make a difference after hearing the Holo Audio Red in my Cyan 2 but now very curious as how much better the SR fuses are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
The Pink is SRs latest fuse, and supercedes the Purple
Swapping in the SR Purple over the stock Holo Red fuse was a noticable improvement Jim, I reckon this would apply to your Cyan 2 dac as well.
Had music playing overnight, working from home today so on my break I sat down and had a listen.
It doesnt sound 'bright' exactly, but compared to the sound I had before its brighter spotlit, not 'etched' exactly...but more hyper detailed, as opposed to an organic sound field where everything is part of everything else.
The classic 'analogue' Holo May sound?
These things take a long long time to properly break in, and the Purple sounded very different to what it eventually settled down to, so zero concerns.
Loving the extra detail as well as the wider and deeper soundstage Im getting now, only snag is its just more of a "Chord Dave" type sound than Im used to?
But the Holo magic will come through again once everything settles down.
Until you hear what these fuses do it's hard to believe the difference they make. Will be interesting to write up the comparison between the Purple and pink fuses once they have "run" in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Of course some folk will just say the only difference is the color!:lol:
Yup, 100%.
Power quality is everything,
and when you think of it the incoming AC is passed through the fuse before it even gets to your equipment.
And yet us Audio experts fuss about spikes, footers, cable direction and the like?
These things all make an impact but by how much?
How some folk say the incoming AC choke point (i.e. Fuse) can’t make a difference I’ve no idea.
Learned not to try and convince them though, none of my business what others think. :)
Same can be said about cables, some folk can hear the difference and some can’t.
Some years back I was messing with plugs and thought I could hear a difference between different sides of a double socket! It may have only been a small difference but nonetheless I heard it. I am sure there is a technical reason or I am just bonkers!:lol:
What kind of fuses do you use in the plugtops for your Holo equipment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Barry,
do you mean the IEC cable plug fuse, as opposed to the internal fuse on the unit itself?
If so, there isn’t one.
All my Hifi gear is fed from a hardwired Shuko mains block, powered directly from a tail from the balanced mains unit, which is hardwired into the mains.
From there it’s Wireworld silver Shuko IEC cables feeding all the black boxes.
Get your point though about why fuss with fancy internal fuses if there’s a Bussman (or worse!) in the plug. :)
My Balanced mains unit is twin pole RCBO protected, as well as the RCDs in the main feed, so no issue with not having a plug fuse.
Thats only there to protect the cable anyway, not the equipment.
Fair enough, though I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say your balanced mains unit is hardwired into the mains. Is it wall mounted, and what is the current rating of the twin-pole RCDs?
Most balanced mains units,the commercial Russ Andrews type ones anyway, are an extension block which plugs into the wall?
Mines taps directly into the CU.
No idea about the current rating of the RCDs, my spark took care of all that stuff when he set it up.
If it "plugs into the wall" it is not hardwired and something has to be fitted into the plug; unless, that is, you use Shuko sockets which are individually protected by their own circuit breaker.
But as you say the whole was installed by your sparky, who no doubt would have issued you with a certificate for the work done.
It doesnt plug into the wall?
The Russ Andrew’s type ones do.
System plugs into a Shuko mains block, fed from balanced mains, which is directly tapped into the CU.
This is mine.
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Yeah,
safety was important Barry, can’t muck around electrical stuff, not worth it, it’s only Hifi.
Now that looks the business. Good to see ganged two-pole circuit breakers are used.
Yes.
Agree 100% on the safety aspect.
Looked into it all Bigly at the time. :)
Current digital lash up...
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Temporary loaner from a friend,
power supply in my Holo May popped and is packed up for collection Monday for return to Elise Audio for test/repair under warranty.
Would cost me £342 to ship it fully insured back to them in London, told them, they said no way we'll arrange to collect it.
Really Outstanding Customer Service.
Probably going back to China to be pulled apart (as failures are unheard of) so will see how we get on. Have it to look forward to again ☺️
The SMSL SU-1 and Douk USB ddc are a lot of fun, very mature transparent digital sound, hits way above what you'd expect at the price.
Still have my music which is the main thing.
:hmm:
You have not had it long, and if it needs to go back for investigation you could be without it for months.
Is there no chance of a replacement unit?
I know Kev,
but these things can happen.
Think if that length of time I’d think they would hopefully give me a new unit yeah.
Looked after me really well, great guys to deal with.
Good aftersales support is good.
On the flip side, my Sony preamp/DAC is just entering its 37th year of flawless operation.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Probably it'll pack in now I said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
... anyone else smell burning bakelite?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
lol. It's got great build quality not BPC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Was only £350 so could always get another I suppose. Of course something packing in is always a good excuse to try something new.
Any progress on the speaker search?
Not yet,
Have a shortlist (thats getting longer...) will start with that and whittle it down when Ive saved up the pennies.
I'd say if the shortlist is under 20 options you're probably missing some you should try. Lots of really good speakers out there now if you have significant amount of money to spend (or will have).
If you've not been to a show for a while that would maybe be worth doing. Not a perfect environment for serious demos but gives you an idea. If it's crap at the show it probably is crap - and the opposite.
The 'traditional' old UK favourite suspects are mostly off the pace now I think.
Agree on giving new models a spin, the technology and design has caught up, not quite to the extent of digital but it’s getting there.
Fyne Audio (ex Tannoy engineers) has caught my eye most from the newcomers.
Also giving the likes of Magnepan a spin, not heard a ‘static in my system before.
Perceptions of a nightmare to correctly place and lack of bass, but you never know till you try.
Certainly worth a try you seem to have quite a bit of space to be able to move them about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Fyne - I had a listen to the flagship 'Vintage 15' at a show, with the optional supertweeters. They grew on me a bit after a shakey start, but IMO what I have now does what they do a lot better at less than a quarter of the money. Do work in smaller room though just like big Tannoys do.
I’m sure you know that Loud and Clear stock Fyne speakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcin626
Iain there is a Pal.
Gave me a discount on my Rega P2 back in the day at Stereo Stereo with my first student Grant, was a few quid short of the TT with my preferred Nakaoka MP30, so he took one off another demo turntable and sold me that.
Jeez… what was that, 96?
Gave the guy my Business ever since, He’s a very smart cookie!
Reminded him of that when I picked up my P10 from Loud n Clear, he genuinely blushed. :)
As you have had this unit for only six months or so, I think the importer should loan you a replacement whilst yours is being seen to. I knew of one dealer who would do that with any piece of gear he sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Hopefully being a power supply it shouldn't take too long to diagnose the problem and fix.
Fingers crossed!
Magneplanar aren't 'statics just to be pedantic, they used distributed magnets.
Jason at Arke Audio is trialling some Maggies with his Kratos bass enhancers, could be worth a listen.
Well…Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
who’da thunk it.
The most unlikely (and welcome) thing happened this morning. :eek:
UPS had been booked to collect my 2 box Dac today and I hadn’t taken it out the rack yet for boxing up.
When I last tried powering it on (And failed) I must have left the Dac power switch in the On position without realising it, the PSU wasn’t powering up the Dac so never gave it much thought at the time?
This morning, the PSU that previously wasn’t powering up was… warm - what?!
Dac still not powering up though so what’s going on says I.
On closer inspection it turns out it was me being a “feckin Eejit and the Dac is 100% working fine. :doh:
Took it to a mates the previous weekend and I had unboxed and set it up quite late when I got home and was quite tired.
Theres a chunky 19 pin umbilical cable that connects PSU to the Dac unit and, you guessed it, it wasn’t seated properly at the Dac end.
Really heavy plug and it clicks solidly into place when seated correctly.
I hadn’t done it properly, so,Dac wasn’t powering up :lol:
What a flippin’ Daftee!
Turns out the fancy SR fuse is intact as well, thought that had popped, so everything’s back the way it was and sounding just fine.
PHEW!
I’ll put it down to a Frank Spencer moment, Haha.
:doh:
At least you have a happy ending.
Occam’s Razor (or my idiocy) at work!
Had my knickers in a real twist about it, worse case scenario etc?
Goes to show sometimes you just need to take a step back and chill, and look at the situation differently.
I’m laughing about it NOW of course… :lol:
All's well that ends well! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Those "chunky" connectors are latching designs made by Lemo and 'click' when fully mated, a bit like XLR connectors. An easy mistake to make: I have done the same with the power supply connection for my Levinson preamp.
Now you can concentrate on auditioning new speakers. :)