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Stratmangler
07-08-2019, 12:52
As the title says.

Stratmangler
07-08-2019, 12:59
We had the Community Shield on Sunday, which means The Premier League starts this weekend :mex:
Can City defend the title for a 3rd consecutive season?
Can Liverpool kill the monkey on their back? It'll be 30 years if they don't do it this season :eyebrows:

Marco
07-08-2019, 13:42
Come on the 'Pool!:clap::ner:

;)

Marco.

Marco
07-08-2019, 13:43
Top 6 predictions for the EPL and SPL?

Let's have 'em, chaps.... :)

Marco.

rmcin626
07-08-2019, 15:52
What the hell

Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Killie, Motherwell

Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea

Stratmangler
07-08-2019, 16:01
What the hell

Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Killie, Motherwell

Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea

Looks like you have both leagues jumbled up a bit :)
I'm wondering what toll the pointless games Liverpool have qualified to play will be.
The first one is next Wednesday, and it's in Istanbul :rfl:

Marco
07-08-2019, 16:09
What the hell

Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Killie, Motherwell

Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea

Wishful thinking...:eyebrows:;)

I'll do mine later. Tough game tonight ahead in Romania!

Marco.

rmcin626
07-08-2019, 17:07
Wishful yes, but you never know, hopefully your team get a good result tonight Marco

Marco
07-08-2019, 20:41
Cheers, mate. Got a 1-1 draw, with a vital away goal from Forrest! Good result, but by all accounts we were lucky, although Edouard could've sneaked it for us late on. Need to watch the match later on Celtic TV, to analyse it for myself.

The tie is still wide open, although with an away goal and home advantage now, we've given ourselves a decent chance of progressing to meet Slavia Prague in the play-offs.

I see that Tierney's now off to Arsenal in a £25m deal, providing he can agree personal terms and pass a medical, which seems a formality. Not bad for an academy player! Now we'll see how wisely that money is spent.....

Marco.

rmcin626
07-08-2019, 20:49
Decent result away from home, yeah looks KT is away, more money to spend but not much time

Alex_UK
07-08-2019, 20:58
Well the mighty Canaries will upset the apple cart at the Premiership season opener on Friday evening against Liverpool, you mark my words! (yes, I have had a drink! and been sniffing the Tipex! :lol:) Joking aside, I just want to see Norwich avoid the dubious record of being the Premier League's most relegated team - which we will claim (5) if we don't survive 2019/20. Personally I'm optimistic (possibly deluded...) - we were outstanding last year against all expectations and I think we will fare well against the lesser sides. Football is becoming an increasingly athletic sport and I think having youth and unity on your side is pivotal. On The Ball, City!

Marco
07-08-2019, 21:01
Good luck, mate - although not against Liverpool!;)

That said, I shall be following the progress of the Canaries with interest:)

Marco.

Alex_UK
07-08-2019, 21:06
Celtic did well tonight - and 7-0 on Saturday was pretty emphatic! :eek: Love to see any UK team do well in Europe - so good luck to all.

Stratmangler
08-08-2019, 09:27
Cheers, mate. Got a 1-1 draw, with a vital away goal from Forrest! Good result, but by all accounts we were lucky, although Edouard could've sneaked it for us late on. Need to watch the match later on Celtic TV, to analyse it for myself.

The tie is still wide open, although with an away goal and home advantage now, we've given ourselves a decent chance of progressing to meet Slavia Prague in the play-offs.

I see that Tierney's now off to Arsenal in a £25m deal, providing he can agree personal terms and pass a medical, which seems a formality. Not bad for an academy player! Now we'll see how wisely that money is spent.....

Marco.

Needs to be done by 17.00hrs today.

rmcin626
08-08-2019, 20:21
Good result tonight apart from the 2 sloppy goals we gave away

struth
08-08-2019, 22:56
Well the mighty Canaries will upset the apple cart at the Premiership season opener on Friday evening against Liverpool, you mark my words! (yes, I have had a drink! and been sniffing the Tipex! [emoji38]) Joking aside, I just want to see Norwich avoid the dubious record of being the Premier League's most relegated team - which we will claim (5) if we don't survive 2019/20. Personally I'm optimistic (possibly deluded...) - we were outstanding last year against all expectations and I think we will fare well against the lesser sides. Football is becoming an increasingly athletic sport and I think having youth and unity on your side is pivotal. On The Ball, City!Last time they met in opener pool won 1-0 and went on to win league... From man c. [emoji23]

struth
08-08-2019, 22:59
Been catching up on footy and a good away advantage tonight. Scoring 4away is good.
As to Tierney going, well he hardly played last year so it's just a big gain financially to celtic.

struth
09-08-2019, 10:37
Just watched the highlights of the Rangers game. 6 good goals tbf. Should be careful at ibrox in return as they are a pretty decent team with pace and ability but no reason not to progress.
Aribo and Morelos both took theirs very well. Thought the big danish striker looked a player. reminded me of Kluivert

rmcin626
09-08-2019, 10:45
Just watched the highlights of the Rangers game. 6 good goals tbf. Should be careful at ibrox in return as they are a pretty decent team with pace and ability but no reason not to progress.
Aribo and Morelos both took theirs very well. Thought the big danish striker looked a player. reminded me of Kluivert

It was an interesting game, the first half was pretty even, when we went 3 up the defence lots concentration but 4 goals away from home is good going.

struth
09-08-2019, 10:49
we basically played 424 high block n run. wont be able to do that at home tho

Marco
09-08-2019, 10:49
Glad to see you're back posting here, mate....


As to Tierney going, well he hardly played last year so it's just a big gain financially to celtic.

Indeed (nor this season, and we're currently unbeaten) - and *that* is the key point.

We can clearly win (or not lose) games without him. Plus, without spending a further penny, Boli, in time, looks like he could replace Tierney. He just needs to improve on the defensive side of his game, but as far as bombing down the wing and pinging crosses into the box, he's already there.

So, the £25m transfer fee for Tierney, if it doesn't go straight into PL's [or realistically DD's] 'back pocket', is royal-icing on the cake, which will simply make Celtic even stronger. Then there's the possibility of a further £25m windfall, if we reach the group stages of the CL... A scary thought for the rest of the SPL:eek:

I can see us running over the top of a few teams this year, not just St Johnstone!;)

Marco.

Marco
09-08-2019, 10:56
Just watched the highlights of the Rangers game. 6 good goals tbf. Should be careful at ibrox in return as they are a pretty decent team with pace and ability but no reason not to progress.
Aribo and Morelos both took theirs very well. Thought the big danish striker looked a player. reminded me of Kluivert

Nice one - I'd forgotten about that game. Must've have been entertaining to watch!

Long may both of our teams do well in Europe, as we need to raise the co-efficient, so that the SPL champions can play one less qualifying round for the CL, and if the results keep on being good, perhaps make automatic qualification, like those lucky bastards down south, many of whom are 'champions' of fuck all!;)

Marco.

rmcin626
09-08-2019, 11:01
Nice one - I'd forgotten about that game. Must've have been entertaining to watch!

Long may both of our teams do well in Europe, as we need to raise the co-efficient, so that the SPL champions can play one less qualifying round for the CL, and if the results keep on being good, perhaps make automatic qualification, like those lucky bastards down south, many of whom are 'champions' of fuck all!;)

Marco.

It’s nonsense that teams like Ajax and Celtic need to play so many qualifying rounds .

Marco
09-08-2019, 11:04
Indeed - but that's the problem when the game these days completely revolves around MONEY!:doh:

Marco.

struth
09-08-2019, 11:16
Nice one - I'd forgotten about that game. Must've have been entertaining to watch!

Long may both of our teams do well in Europe, as we need to raise the co-efficient, so that the SPL champions can play one less qualifying round for the CL, and if the results keep on being good, perhaps make automatic qualification, like those lucky bastards down south, many of whom are 'champions' of fuck all!;)

Marco.

if we hadn't scored 4 goals we would have got beat 2-0 ;)

Marco
09-08-2019, 12:29
There's some good evidence now that Rangers are better at killing off teams, and also as seen on Sunday at Kille, digging deep to win late on at difficult away grounds, which will mean they'll earn more points than last season and make the challenge for the league title closer!

All good, as far as I'm concerned, simply because if Celtic do win the league (and secure nine-in-a-row), it's better to do it against a strong Rangers team, than a poor one....

I see that BR failed in a late £20m bid for Callum McGregor: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4583862/leicester-fail-transfer-celtic-callum-mcgregor/

Just how much is the current Celtic team worth?:eek:

Marco.

struth
09-08-2019, 14:19
I see we have signed young Man C player Brandon Barker on a 3 year contract. I remember him at Hibs when on loan and being extremely speedy. an interesting addition.. how many wingers do we have now :D

https://media.rangers.co.uk/uploads/2019/08/090819_barker_signs_420_03.jpg

rmcin626
09-08-2019, 14:21
I see we have signed young Man C player Brandon Barker on a 3 year contract. I remember him at Hibs when on loan and being extremely speedy. an interesting addition.. how many wingers do we have now :D

https://media.rangers.co.uk/uploads/2019/08/090819_barker_signs_420_03.jpg

Interesting interview with SG today, looking for different options in the final third hence another winger brought in

oldius
09-08-2019, 16:11
I see we have signed young Man C player Brandon Barker on a 3 year contract. I remember him at Hibs when on loan and being extremely speedy. an interesting addition.. how many wingers do we have now :D

https://media.rangers.co.uk/uploads/2019/08/090819_barker_signs_420_03.jpgHe was absolutely top drawer in our EDS but never pushed on. I have no idea why as he is a massive talent. Good luck Brandon.

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struth
09-08-2019, 17:29
He was absolutely top drawer in our EDS but never pushed on. I have no idea why as he is a massive talent. Good luck Brandon.

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkYup, he showed so.me of that ability when at hibs. Just needs coaxing out in right side. Hopefully ours. Interestingly our own speedy, tricky young winger, Glenn Middleton who we got from Norwich is going on loan to hibs next week.
A sort of round robin of talent

Alex_UK
09-08-2019, 19:12
Well not the start the Canaries wanted! :doh:

Marco
09-08-2019, 19:19
Who were they playing, mate?

Marco.

Alex_UK
09-08-2019, 19:31
Liverpool - Premier League opener at Anfield - expecting a drubbing but not 3-0 after 30 minutes! :eek: To be fair, we're playing well...

rmcin626
09-08-2019, 19:42
Liverpool - Premier League opener at Anfield - expecting a drubbing but not 3-0 after 30 minutes! :eek: To be fair, we're playing well...

Too be far Norwich are not playing badly going forward but it’s now 4-0

Alex_UK
09-08-2019, 19:58
Too be far Norwich are not playing badly going forward but it’s now 4-0

I'd have taken 4-0 at full time. Half time, ouch! To be fair, Liverpool are just a different class. Their value £976.28m. Norwich £83.12m. I don't expect us to beat Liverpool, Man City, Tottenham etc - but I think we have a fair chance against the bottom third, and ambitions this year just have to be to survive, which is going to be a huge challenge in itself such is the gulf.

Alex_UK
09-08-2019, 21:11
Well the second half we did much better - no more goals conceded and we got one back - 4-1 against the European Champions at Anfield is no disgrace and I am super proud of the team. Super proud. Bring on Newcastle next. :)

Marco
10-08-2019, 07:04
Liverpool - Premier League opener at Anfield - expecting a drubbing but not 3-0 after 30 minutes! :eek: To be fair, we're playing well...

Ah, didn't expect that to be happening midweek. Is that normal? I thought the first league fixtures always kicked off on a Saturday? That's what happens in Scotland.

Anyway, not to worry - you won the second half! And your season will be defined by games against other teams than Liverpool:)

Marco.

Alex_UK
10-08-2019, 08:13
Ah, didn't expect that to be happening midweek. Is that normal? I thought the first league fixtures always kicked off on a Saturday? That's what happens in Scotland.

Anyway, not to worry - you won the second half! And your season will be defined by games against other teams than Liverpool:)

Marco.

Dunno, thought it was usually Saturday but who knows with Sky!

LFC beat West Ham 4-0 in last season's opener at Anfield, and Barcelona 4-0 in May, so we did better than both of them! Think they also beat Arsenal 5-0 last season, so not going to panic after one game, and Anfield is a fortress! Best unbeaten home run anywhere I believe across all the top leagues.

struth
10-08-2019, 08:19
Dunno, thought it was usually Saturday but who knows with Sky!

LFC beat West Ham 4-0 in last season's opener at Anfield, and Barcelona 4-0 in May, so we did better than both of them! Think they also beat Arsenal 5-0 last season, so not going to panic after one game, and Anfield is a fortress! Best unbeaten home run anywhere I believe across all the top leagues.

last time liverpool played norwich in the opener at anfield liverpool won the league so maybe their year. norwich are a decent honest side and havent gone mental with buying, unlike Villa. it will be interesting to see who comes out best

Marco
10-08-2019, 08:35
Dunno, thought it was usually Saturday but who knows with Sky!


So the traditional kick-off time for a new season, unfurling of league flags, etc (3pm on a Saturday), is something else that's been spoiled by the money men!:doh:

And normally such games aren't televised live... Does anyone know how long that's been happening in England? As far as I was aware, their league games kicked off the weekend after the Scottish ones, so something has changed?

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't worry about losing to Liverpool, as I suspect that most teams will suffer a similar fate this season. I'll be looking forward to your games against Leicester - and hoping you can get one over BR!;)

Marco.

struth
10-08-2019, 08:50
City will be unfurling :eyebrows:

Marco
10-08-2019, 09:00
Yeah I know... But at one time (perhaps even as early as last season?) the unfurling of flags and league kick-off fixtures in England were played on a Saturday afternoon (the weekend after the games in Scotland).

Different after that during the season, when they can be played anytime, just like in Scotland, but in Scotland the opening day of the season is always 3pm on a Saturday afternoon - and none of the games are shown live by Sky or anyone else.

Seems bizarre to me that Liverpool (and Norwich) kicked off their season on a Friday evening, in a live televised game, which is why it caught me unawares... Hey ho.

Marco.

struth
10-08-2019, 09:14
Yeah I know... But at one time (perhaps even as early as last season?) the unfurling of flags and league kick-off fixtures in England were played on a Saturday afternoon (the weekend after the games in Scotland).

Different after that during the season, when they can be played anytime, just like in Scotland, but in Scotland the opening day of the season is always 3pm on a Saturday afternoon - and none of the games are shown live by Sky or anyone else.

Seems bizarre to me that Liverpool (and Norwich) kicked off their season on a Friday evening, in a live televised game, which is why it caught me unawares... Hey ho.

Marco.

just sky getting their moneys' worth. if it wasnt for sky we up here would be on a more level playing field

Marco
10-08-2019, 09:27
Indeed. Plus, for me, it spoils the occasion kicking off your league campaign on a Friday night.

Anyway, we've got a hard game away to Motherwell today, at a 12 noon kickoff (again because of Sky), when the players only got back from Romania, after playing a very demanding game there, at 4.30pm on Thursday!:doh:

You guys have got Hibs at home on Sunday - that could be an interesting one... However, I'd expect you to win, as indeed you will most games this season at Ibrox.

Marco.

struth
10-08-2019, 09:35
Well didnt play well last week, although Livy are a tough nut on their plastic pitch(which really shouldn't be allowed in the high end professional game). Celtic should have too much for them, even if their defence is a "work in progress":eyebrows: Dont expect it to be as easy as St's tho. They have been awful preseason and their manager may be first sacked if it continues.

Hibs have been , like killy a bogey team for us so a win; any win wil be a big boost

Marco
10-08-2019, 09:42
Livy? It's Motherwell we're playing, daftee!:D

Marco.

struth
10-08-2019, 10:03
Livy? It's Motherwell we're playing, daftee!:D

Marco.

yup i know.. i did say well at beginning.. they drew 0-0 with livy last week

Marco
10-08-2019, 10:49
Ah I missed that, just read it as you talking about Livy. No idea who Motherwell played last week, as out with of Celtic and Rangers, I pay little attention to what the other teams are doing, other than when we're playing them.

Marco.

Stratmangler
10-08-2019, 10:54
I pay little attention to what the other teams are doing, other than when we're playing them.

Marco.

Neither do I, yet I knew about last night's game.
I'm surprised we haven't had some journalistic dickhead getting giddy about Liverpool being top of the table :eyebrows:

Marco
10-08-2019, 11:43
Neither do I, yet I knew about last night's game.
I'm surprised we haven't had some journalistic dickhead getting giddy about Liverpool being top of the table :eyebrows:

Any idea, Chris, how long it's been since all the opening season fixtures in the EPL kicked off at 3pm on a Saturday? I'm curious as to when that stopped.

Marco.

Stratmangler
10-08-2019, 11:48
I can't remember, but Friday night football was introduced last season.

Marco
10-08-2019, 12:22
No worries... I know about Friday night football, but traditionally the opening games of the league season all kicked off on a Saturday afternoon, as they still do in Scotland.

Marco.

Marco
10-08-2019, 13:27
That'll do!:thumbsup:

Looks like this season's going to be a thrill-a-minute under Lennon..... Brendan Rodgers, who?;)

Marco.

rmcin626
10-08-2019, 13:30
Just home so not seen the game, but another win for Celtic

struth
11-08-2019, 15:56
Good game; worth the trip to New York :lol: finished 6-1 Defoe with a hat trick, Alfredo got 2 although wasnt on long, and Ojo the 6th. Hibs are a good side and came back from dead late in first half scoring when it was 2-0, but should have been several... Thought Their keeper Marciano was different class and my Mom

Marco
11-08-2019, 16:20
Quality result, mate! Didn't see that coming against Hibs... Some other team, maybe. Backs up my feeling that Rangers will be very strong this season at Ibrox, and I suspect that will be the case for the game on the 1st Sept...;)

Marco.

struth
11-08-2019, 16:26
Quality result, mate! Didn't see that coming against Hibs... Some other team, maybe. Backs up my feeling that Rangers will be very strong this season at Ibrox, and I suspect that will be the case for the game on the 1st Sept...;)

Marco.

both have started well. Think the Euro early start does get them primed for action. But its a long season, and sure there will be ups n downs.
Aberdeen lost to St Mirren too so could be a good league. Still think Hibs will do well

rmcin626
11-08-2019, 16:29
Good result today, never easy after a European game

struth
11-08-2019, 17:13
Utd doing well at home to Chelsea as well. Although less passes and possession are 4-0up. Rashford 2, Marital and new boy James.

Pepperamip
11-08-2019, 17:20
I've been saying to anyone who will listen you can't stick a one season championship manager into an elite Premier league team and expect him to do the business. Regardless of his playing credentials.. I'm a Millwall fan and and I actually think Frank Lampard is a decent bloke but he's no prem manager (well not yet anyway)

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struth
11-08-2019, 17:26
I've been saying to anyone who will listen you can't stick a one season championship manager into an elite Premier league team and expect him to do the business. Regardless of his playing credentials.. I'm a Millwall fan and and I actually think Frank Lampard is a decent bloke but he's no prem manager (well not yet anyway)

Sent from my CLT-L09 using TapatalkInclined to agree to an extent. He has plenty playing resources but was unable to buy. Possibly the reason he got the gig as top men would maybe not go. Especially as they lost Hazard.
But hopefully he will do well enough, although I've got reservations on the players mentality.

rmcin626
11-08-2019, 17:34
Think it will be an interesting season for Chelsea, but they still have some decent players, that young American they brought cost over 50 million.

struth
12-08-2019, 13:52
Think it will be an interesting season for Chelsea, but they still have some decent players, that young American they brought cost over 50 million.Yes they may struggle a bit against some sides but it will let them fully blood some young talent, which may save them a fortune

rmcin626
14-08-2019, 07:18
Disappointing result last night for Celtic and Scottish football.

struth
14-08-2019, 07:50
Disappointing result last night for Celtic and Scottish football.

indeed. surprising team selection too. Back to drawing board on that I think. Also a few players must have had an off night. The Romanians?.. aren't that good a team I wouldnt have thought.

Oh well at least they are still in the Europa..

Stratmangler
14-08-2019, 08:40
indeed. surprising team selection too. Back to drawing board on that I think. Also a few players must have had an off night. The Romanians?.. aren't that good a team I wouldnt have thought.

Oh well at least they are still in the Europa..

I thought they were in the Europa playoffs - they don't automatically qualify.

struth
14-08-2019, 08:46
I thought they were in the Europa playoffs - they don't automatically qualify.

yup, think its the final plays offs they go into at this stage. still it gives another bite of cherry, albeit a smaller less sweet one. Rangers are hoping to join them on thursday night. We hold a 4-2 advantage so we have a good chance, being at home.
But, the need to guard against not giving their all for 90 mins. The Danes are not a bad side

rmcin626
14-08-2019, 08:50
yup, think its the final plays offs they go into at this stage. still it gives another bite of cherry, albeit a smaller less sweet one. Rangers are hoping to join them on thursday night. We hold a 4-2 advantage so we have a good chance, being at home.
But, the need to guard against not giving their all for 90 mins. The Danes are not a bad side

Last night should be a good warning to the Rangers players, with Celtic conceding 4 goals at home

struth
14-08-2019, 09:03
Yup we don't want any Billy big baws out there. Hard graft is the only way

take5
14-08-2019, 09:53
Disappointing result last night for Celtic and Scottish football.

I find it more sad than anything else.

Scottish football is just so nowhere now, in terms of the standard of European club footie. Actually on an international level too !!!!

Hugely sad to see this descent to becoming 3rd rate no-hopers at every level.

Kilmarnock beaten by a team of part timers. Celtic losing 4 goals at home and going out.
It really is a true reflection of the level now.

Even my team St Johnstone, one of the greatest teams ever...... so bad.
I cringe now when I see them on telly, as I do with all footie I see from up there.

Honestly, when I see second tier football in England, it is way ahead of anything I see in Scotland.
I suppose Killie beaten by part timers from Wales is very telling in respect of current levels.

Just so sad, and i dont understand why. The clubs must be getting money for TV rights. Crowds at Celtic are still large.

It must just be that not enough kids are playing the game there now, and coming through. I dont know why.

Did I say... very sad !!

struth
14-08-2019, 10:00
I find it more sad than anything else.

Scottish football is just so nowhere now, in terms of the standard of European club footie. Actually on an international level too !!!!

Hugely sad to see this descent to becoming 3rd rate no-hopers at every level.

Kilmarnock beaten by a team of part timers. Celtic losing 4 goals at home and going out.
It really is a true reflection of the level now.

Even my team St Johnstone, one of the greatest teams ever...... so bad.
I cringe now when I see them on telly, as I do with all footie I see from up there.

Honestly, when I see second tier football in England, it is way ahead of anything I see in Scotland.
I suppose Killie beaten by part timers from Wales is very telling in respect of current levels.

Just so sad, and i dont understand why. The clubs must be getting money for TV rights. Crowds at Celtic are still large.

It must just be that not enough kids are playing the game there now, and coming through. I dont know why.

Did I say... very sad !!

Celtic have been playing to a high standard but the team has kinda passed its sell by I think. It may take a bit of tin rattling to get it back; only time will tell.
Rangers have been gash for years, so its nice to see them playing so well now. Hoping they keep it up tbh.

Money wise, Celtic's wage bill is very high and was more than the whole Romanian premier league.... But the small teams, IE all bar the old firm struggle with poor crowds, poor sponsorship and very little tv money, yet the players still want decent money.
Size of the population watching footie isnt enough to support all these pro teams now. simple maths

rmcin626
14-08-2019, 11:07
Yup we don't want any Billy big baws out there. Hard graft is the only way

Agreed

take5
14-08-2019, 15:50
Celtic have been playing to a high standard but the team has kinda passed its sell by I think.



I think that is the problem. Celtic are playing to a higher standard than any other team in Scotland, which is why they win almost always.

But when playing against teams outside Scotland, their real standard is shown to be rather lacking in quality. Best of a bad bunch does not equal high standard.
Or look at Killie. Did very well in Scotland last year. Europe watch out !!!!
First challenge........ Knocked out by part timers from Wales, in Europe

It’s like anything else, if you play with or against inferior folks, you descend to/ are pulled down to their level.

To get better at anything you have to be challenged/ dragged up by that challenge.

It isnt Celtics fault. They beat whatever is in front of them domestically, but that doesn’t prepare them for out in the big bad world. Sadly.

struth
14-08-2019, 21:39
I see we are loaning in Andy King from Leicester City. Quite a good player and scores goals from midfield.
Interesting that Brendan Rodgers is allowing it.

Maybe a dud now?
Thought it might have been Wilfred Boney lol

Stratmangler
14-08-2019, 22:01
Interesting end to the European Supercup.
Don't get me wrong - Tammy Abraham's penalty kick was poor, but it's interesting that Adrian's feet were both clear and forward of the line when the ball was struck.
Which means that VAR should have called it correctly, and the kick be retaken.

UEFA are a bent organisation!

NRG
14-08-2019, 22:16
Strong. Maybe inconsistent.

Stratmangler
14-08-2019, 22:34
You wonder why UEFA get booed every Champions League game in Bradford, Manchester?
UEFA are a bent organisation, and they look benevolently on their darlings.
Inconsistency and UEFA are bed mates.

rmcin626
15-08-2019, 19:44
2-0 at half time, hopefully looking safe now

struth
15-08-2019, 19:56
2-0 at half time, hopefully looking safe now3-0 now. Becoming a cricket score shortly if this goes on.
Not complain tho
Great stuff

rmcin626
15-08-2019, 20:10
3-0 now. Becoming a cricket score shortly if this goes on.
Not complain tho
Great stuff

Looking good

rmcin626
15-08-2019, 20:53
Good result and display tonight, looking forward to 5he next round

struth
16-08-2019, 07:12
yup, 7-3 over 2 legs; sure everyone would have grabbed that v a pretty decent side. Next test will be again tougher, but with hard work and a modicum of good fortune its doable.

rmcin626
16-08-2019, 07:37
yup, 7-3 over 2 legs; sure everyone would have grabbed that v a pretty decent side. Next test will be again tougher, but with hard work and a modicum of good fortune its doable.

Yeah, hopefully we will progress to the group stages

struth
16-08-2019, 08:37
East Fife on Sunday.. That will be a culture shock for a few :D

rmcin626
16-08-2019, 08:55
East Fife on Sunday.. That will be a culture shock for a few :D

Very true and probably a very different team from last night

Alex_UK
17-08-2019, 17:22
(look away if your waiting for MOTD!)
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Very happy with the Canaries first home result today, given Newcastle's new £40m Brazilian signing Joelinton is probably worth more than our entire squad... Although I suspect with his hat-trick today Teemu Pukki will see his value increase! 4 goals in 2 PL games - not bad for a free transfer! But from the reports it was as last year, a great team effort not just one superstar performance. These are the games we need to win to stay up. Roll on Chelsea next week!

struth
17-08-2019, 18:09
Good win Alex. Canaries started well considering. Villa who did polar opposite and spent heavily lost again.
Also see Marco's team beat dunfermline after extra time.
My team play tomorrow.

struth
18-08-2019, 16:11
we slid into the Quarters with a pretty much new team, winning 3-0.... tricky tie but a decent result

rmcin626
18-08-2019, 18:22
Yeah good win, but terrible game to watch, lots of wind and plastic pitch, Livingstone up next in that cup

struth
18-08-2019, 18:41
Yeah good win, but terrible game to watch, lots of wind and plastic pitch, Livingstone up next in that cupFollowed on text. Knew it wouldn't be pretty. The ground is on the coast so swirly whirly. Noticed Jamie Murphy was on bench

rmcin626
18-08-2019, 19:05
Followed on text. Knew it wouldn't be pretty. The ground is on the coast so swirly whirly. Noticed Jamie Murphy was on bench

I was surprised he was on the bench, as it was a plastic pitch.

rmcin626
22-08-2019, 18:56
Good solid first half in Poland, hoping for good results for both Scottish teams tonight

struth
22-08-2019, 19:05
Had to go to bed alas as I've hurt hip but trying to follow on text updates.
Seems as expected, a close game.

rmcin626
22-08-2019, 19:14
Very tight game so far Grant, with Rangers having most of the procession

struth
22-08-2019, 19:21
Seens pretty end to end.

struth
22-08-2019, 19:50
So 0-0it ends. All to play for with both sides next week

rmcin626
22-08-2019, 19:56
So 0-0it ends. All to play for with both sides next week

Bit more open in the second half both teams had chances

struth
22-08-2019, 20:00
In a way its better thus way. If we are not good enough to beat them at Ibrox we shouldn't be in the groups

rmcin626
22-08-2019, 20:08
In a way its better thus way. If we are not good enough to beat them at Ibrox we shouldn't be in the groups

Very true Grant, but an away goal would have been handy

Marco
22-08-2019, 20:45
Hard luck guys! Still, 0-0 away from home isn't too shabby a result in Europe, especially as you're so strong now at Ibrox, where I'd expect you to go on and dispatch the Poles comfortably:)

We got a good result tonight at home against AIK. 2-0, so no away goals to worry about this time!

In that respect, I'd argue that even a 1-0 win at home (and clean sheet), from a first leg tie, is better than a 1-1 draw away, simply because in these games so much hinges on away goals potentially counting as double, and being caught by a sucker punch at home, as Celtic found greatly to their cost against Cluj!!:doh:

Lots more on that tomorrow, and plenty of other things that have happened recently and been commented on, as for various reasons I haven't posted on this thread for a while - so stay tuned!;)

Marco.

rmcin626
22-08-2019, 20:58
Hopefully we will be strong enough at home to go through, and well done to Celtic tonight.

rmcin626
23-08-2019, 18:21
Good to see Greenock Morton on the tv tonight, playing Partick Thistle on BBC Scotland

Marco
23-08-2019, 18:41
'Mon the 'Ton! What's the score, Robin?:)

Marco.

rmcin626
23-08-2019, 18:57
'Mon the 'Ton! What's the score, Robin?:)

Marco.

Unfortunately losing 2-0 at half time, Kenny Miller scoring the first. First time I’ve seen them this under the new manager David Hopkin, not impressed all long ball stuff, poor defence not helping either. Don’t think I can face the second half.

Marco
23-08-2019, 19:06
Interesting, as they pushed Hibs all the way in the cup last weekend!

One of my mates is a big Morton fan, so I try and follow their results.

Marco.

rmcin626
23-08-2019, 19:23
Interesting, as they pushed Hibs all the way in the cup last weekend!

One of my mates is a big Morton fan, so I try and follow their results.

Marco.

Hopefully a better second half performance Marco

rmcin626
23-08-2019, 19:59
The big comeback happened with Morton winning 3-2

Marco
23-08-2019, 21:00
Bloody hell, it was worth watching then!:eek:

Looks like Morton are going to be worth a watching this season...

Marco.

rmcin626
23-08-2019, 21:08
Bloody hell, it was worth watching then!:eek:

Looks like Morton are going to be worth a watching this season...

Marco.

Time will tell Marco

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 12:30
Norwich v Chelsea has been entertaining so far.
It's half time right now.
Four goals in it, two apiece, and all of them have been well created :)

Alex_UK
24-08-2019, 12:34
Norwich v Chelsea has been entertaining so far.
It's half time right now.
Four goals in it, two apiece, and all of them have been well created :)It's going to be a nail biting 2nd half that's for sure!

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Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 13:30
Chelsea's third was excellently taken by Abraham.
Godfrey was lucky not to get sent off for that stamp on Mount's foot.

Alex_UK
24-08-2019, 13:50
Not the result I wanted, but probably the one I anticipated. It's not really expected we'll beat the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea, but we never give up, which is all you can ask for really. Our next two away games will be key (West Ham and Burnley) with a home game in between to Man City...

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 14:00
It's that game after the international break that prompted me to watch the Norwich v Chelsea match today.
I haven't seen Norwich play for a good while.
They're organised, determined and resilient, so I don't expect they'll be a pushover for any team.

It's just a matter of time before they start winning games.

Alex_UK
24-08-2019, 14:13
We destroyed Newcastle to be honest. And laughing at Lawro's prediction "Pukki won't score 10 goals in the Premier League all season." 3 games in and he has 5! Hope we don't lose him in January...

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 14:59
Lawro comes out with a right load of tripe 95% of the time.
He's got Scouse coloured blinkers, that one :)

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 18:09
I'm hoping this works out for one of my local sides https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49458044
They have a brief stay of execution.

struth
24-08-2019, 18:12
Doesn't sound encouraging

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 18:14
It's not great.

Stratmangler
24-08-2019, 18:16
City signed Colin Bell from Bury in 1966.

struth
24-08-2019, 18:18
We played them a couple of times rec ently. We're a decent side. Ti's always a shame.

struth
24-08-2019, 18:28
Good win for Liverpool v the gunners.
Over to city.
Man u got themselves beat, although car didn't help

Stratmangler
25-08-2019, 00:29
My son and I sometimes refer to the only stand named after a player as The Bell End, such is our slightly irreverent sense of humour.
The Bell End isn't an end of the ground, but using that description has much comedic effect.
We don't shout about it :o

struth
25-08-2019, 07:42
bell end, lol.. like that.:lol: bournemouth are usually a tough side so good luck.

rmcin626
25-08-2019, 11:11
Hoping for a good result against St Mirren today

Alex_UK
25-08-2019, 11:26
bell end, lol.. like that.[emoji38] bournemouth are usually a tough side so good luck.There is a road near us called Bell Lane and a new house was built on the last remains plot - yes, you guessed it, they named it Bell End! [emoji38]

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Stratmangler
25-08-2019, 11:41
There is a road near us called Bell Lane and a new house was built on the last remains plot - yes, you guessed it, they named it Bell End! [emoji38]

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:D

Stratmangler
25-08-2019, 11:42
This town is in Austria

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Fucking%2C_Austria%2C_street_sign_cropped.jpg

rmcin626
25-08-2019, 13:15
Hard fought victory today, great free kick.

struth
25-08-2019, 13:21
3 points is all you can ask after a tough euro match on the thursday.

rmcin626
25-08-2019, 13:23
3 points is all you can ask after a tough euro match on the thursday.

Very true Grant

Alex_UK
25-08-2019, 21:21
Very surprised to see Newcastle beat Spurs away! :D. After Palace doing over Man U yesterday, it is already looking like a two-horse race for the title after only three games...

struth
25-08-2019, 21:24
Think it was always going to be. Both standout sides, although City have strongest squad and have to be favs again.
Although sure they would swap Liverpool for the champions league

Alex_UK
25-08-2019, 21:48
Makes a Canaries fan continue his optimism for another week, at least! :lol:

oldius
26-08-2019, 05:59
Think it was always going to be. Both standout sides, although City have strongest squad and have to be favs again.
Although sure they would swap Liverpool for the champions league

As a City fan for fifty years, there is no way I would swap our achievements last year for a Champions' League win.

oldius
26-08-2019, 06:01
A clear penalty not given despite a VAR review. That is now a number of incidents that have all resulted in a negative outcome for City. I'd like to consider that as unusual for my team, but it is not.

Stratmangler
26-08-2019, 06:30
As a City fan for fifty years, there is no way I would swap our achievements last year for a Champions' League win.

That's thee and me both :D

struth
26-08-2019, 09:23
Well its the holy grail the Cl.. that will give City the set, and I fancy them this year to maybe make final. They are due.... Although the Spanish sides have strengthened Im not yet convinced.

Alex_UK
27-08-2019, 20:48
Well that’s what you get for playing an untested team... Crawley Town (who?) 1 - Norwich City 0. :eek:

Oddball
27-08-2019, 21:23
Wrexham continue to stumble on as usual:rolleyes:

Stratmangler
27-08-2019, 22:54
Well that’s what you get for playing an untested team... Crawley Town (who?) 1 - Norwich City 0. :eek:

Crawley Town are specialist giant killers.
I can't remember how many seasons ago (it's not many) they got through as far as playing the other team with Manchester in its name, at The Swamp (so called after Shrek, who used to live there).
They gave Ordsall Rovers a fair run for the money.

Your manager didn't want the inconvenience or the hassle of playing unwanted additional games when the focus is to stay in the Premier League.
I can't say as I blame him.
Liverpool went out of both domestic cups last season in the first game.
They were focused on trying to win the Premier League, only they didn't pull it off.
You have to balance the approach, and try to win everything :D

Stratmangler
27-08-2019, 22:58
Breaking news - Bury have been expelled from the EFL.
Bolton Wanderers have 14 days to sort things out, or they're also going to be expelled.

It's a sad day :(

struth
28-08-2019, 06:59
Sad but alas probably had to happen

Stratmangler
28-08-2019, 19:51
Bolton have been bought :D
Bury was a mess financially, and the prospective buyers found more and more skeletons in the closet each day :(

Marco
29-08-2019, 10:17
Unfortunately I've not had time as I'd hoped, with various things going on, to contribute to this thread,, but just to say I'm pleased that fans of teams other than Celtic and Rangers are discussing their clubs fortunes, or otherwise, so long may that continue, as despite appearances sometimes, this isn't just an SPL thread!:eyebrows:

That said, good luck to both of the Glasgow teams tonight in their respective games in Europe. It won't be easy, but I'm confident that both will go through and reach the group stages of the Europa League, setting up a potentially mouth-watering tie on Sunday at Ibrox!

As an aside, this is an interesting loan signing for us: https://tbrfootball.com/stoke-fans-reckon-moritz-bauer-is-going-to-shine-at-celtic/

Does anyone who follows English football know much about him?:)

Marco.

struth
29-08-2019, 10:25
he did well at Ruben in Russia, but didnt seem to click at Stoke. think he was oiriginally with Grasshoppers, so a good pedigree. Could be a good player; guess it depends if he is up for the rough and tumble of the SPL and the pressure of winning every game.

rmcin626
29-08-2019, 10:38
Hopefully good results tonight

Stratmangler
29-08-2019, 11:18
As an aside, this is an interesting loan signing for us: https://tbrfootball.com/stoke-fans-reckon-moritz-bauer-is-going-to-shine-at-celtic/

Does anyone who follows English football know much about him?:)

I haven't seen Stoke playing since they dropped out of the EPL, so no idea about your loanee.

Marco
29-08-2019, 19:02
1-4 away from home, and 6-1 on agg, that'll do!!

Now, one of the rare times I'll be saying this.... COME ON THE GERS!:more::more:

Marco.

struth
29-08-2019, 19:13
Terrible finishing tbh. You've gotta score when on top. We will pay for this

Marco
29-08-2019, 20:45
Morelos to the rescue!:thumbsup:

Squeaky bum syndrome... That must've been a nightmare for you guys to have watched:eek::eek:

Marco.

rmcin626
29-08-2019, 20:52
Morelos to the rescue!:thumbsup:

Squeaky bum syndrome... That must've been a nightmare for you guys to have watched:eek::eek:

Marco.

Nerve racking Marco, well done to Celtic

struth
30-08-2019, 10:32
Yup well done to both sides.. The Poles were a dour lot, but diciplined with it. Still we just made it and thats what the record book will say...
Young Alfredo just added another mil to his value....maybe 2:D Long may he remain....

rmcin626
30-08-2019, 11:57
Tough draws for both Old Firm teams

struth
30-08-2019, 11:59
Tough draws for both Old Firm teams

not seen celtics one.. see we have another 3k shutdown... hope the knuckledraggers are happy with themselves...pricks

struth
30-08-2019, 12:01
see celtic get clui again... revenge time. their group looks easier than ours tbh but both are escapable i think

rmcin626
30-08-2019, 12:05
see celtic get clui again... revenge time. their group looks easier than ours tbh but both are escapable i think

Both are tough draws, but hopefully they will both progress

struth
30-08-2019, 12:06
yesterday's 2 wins should do the co-efficient a lot of good tho...

rmcin626
30-08-2019, 12:09
yesterday's 2 wins should do the co-efficient a lot of good tho...

Every little helps

Marco
30-08-2019, 23:02
Here's the full list for reference:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/xh1G8G.jpg

I think it'll be hard going, for both Celtic and Rangers, with no easy games, especially against Porto and Lazio! Both of our teams will do very well to get through to the knockout stages.

If one arguably has a slightly better chance, it might be Celtic, as we've played Cluj already, so know what they're about, and also Rennes, albeit in a friendly at Celtic Park earlier this summer, whereas Rangers will largely be going into the unknown.

Anyway, there are some great ties to look forward to, so we'll see how it all unfolds!:cool:

Marco.

struth
31-08-2019, 07:33
Yup rangers group is alas the hardest. Porto are ranked 16. The other 2 in our group, I think are both higher than celtic who are no 2 seeds. But that's from a few years ago successes. Porto got to quarters of cl last year I'm sure, but got beat by a lesser side this year, so rankings are not everything
Good luck to both

But, after saying that rankings mean nowt sometimes.

Marco
31-08-2019, 08:52
Absolutely, and on their day, both Celtic and Rangers are capable of beating *anyone* at home, so it's crucial that both of them win as many points at home as possible and make their grounds a fortress. Rangers look particularly strong at home this season and also solid defensively, so I'd expect them to win most of their games at Ibrox.

Which brings us to tomorrow's game.... Any predictions?

With our defensive woes, of various descriptions, I can't see us getting any more than a point, and Rangers may well win... However, we'll probably score, as we have been of late, so I'll go for a 2-2 draw!:cool:

Marco.

struth
31-08-2019, 08:56
Absolutely, and on their day, both Celtic and Rangers are capable of beating *anyone* at home, so it's crucial that both of them win as many points at home as possible and make their grounds a fortress. Rangers look particularly strong at home this season and also solid defensively, so I'd expect them to win most of their games at Ibrox.

Which brings us to tomorrow's game.... Any predictions?

With our defensive woes, of various descriptions, I can't see us getting any more than a point, and Rangers may well win... However, we'll probably score, as we have been of late, so I'll go for a 2-2 draw!:cool:

Marco.

open minded tbh. it might be a good one or a bore fest. your defence seems to have improved of late. fancy us to win it if pushed for an answer but tbh it could go either way. you cant really predict old firm games, especially when both sides are playing well

Marco
31-08-2019, 09:12
Yeah, that's kind of how I see it. However I think it'll largely hinge on how well Celtic's makeshift defence and newbies among them cope with the pressure they'll be put under.

Rangers are rightly favourites, as they're bang on form and at home, but as usual in these games, it'll come down to who wants it most and how influential the key players are on both sides, and both have potential match winners throughout.

Plus, also how disciplined both sets of players are, and so which team manages to keep 11 players on the pitch! Let's hope that the likes of Brown and Morelos behave themselves.

Marco.

struth
31-08-2019, 09:15
Alf has been a changed man this season so far so hope so. Not that I think he will deffo play. may be Defoe.

struth
31-08-2019, 09:18
my grandson is going to be playing at half time at the hearts game at Tynecastle this afternoon... hes dead excited ...hes playing at moment with his boys club in pouring rain..lol mum is pissed off lol

Marco
31-08-2019, 10:13
This guy's gonna be real quality, I think: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49531965

Very pleased with that one, as he's a major goal threat. Looks then like Scotty Sinclair's Celtic career is now over. Not to worry, he's been a great servant to us:cool:

Marco.

Marco
31-08-2019, 10:44
my grandson is going to be playing at half time at the hearts game at Tynecastle this afternoon... hes dead excited ...hes playing at moment with his boys club in pouring rain..lol mum is pissed off lol

Nice one, mate. Bet he's excited! Hope he has a lovely day. If you can, post some pics later:cool:

Marco.

struth
31-08-2019, 11:08
Nice one, mate. Bet he's excited! Hope he has a lovely day. If you can, post some pics later:cool:

Marco.

yup hoping to get some. just have to wait see.... dunno how close parents will get

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 12:27
my grandson is going to be playing at half time at the hearts game at Tynecastle this afternoon... hes dead excited ...hes playing at moment with his boys club in pouring rain..lol mum is pissed off lol

Hope he enjoys himself at Tynecastle, when I was young played Saturday morning and afternoon every week.

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 12:31
Hoping for a good result tomorrow, but you never can predict in these matches. Celtic have scored a lot goals already this season, I don’t think we’ll lose.

struth
31-08-2019, 12:31
Hope he enjoys himself at Tynecastle, when I was young played Saturday morning and afternoon every week.

cheers Robin. Yup whe young I played a lot of football. also cricket, but went secondary and just a bit of rugby and mostly swimming, which was miles every day.. you did get pissed off with it; well i did, and turned to fags booze and women:D

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 12:49
cheers Robin. Yup whe young I played a lot of football. also cricket, but went secondary and just a bit of rugby and mostly swimming, which was miles every day.. you did get pissed off with it; well i did, and turned to fags booze and women:D

Was still playing until my late 20’s along with a few other sports, still managed the booze and women

struth
31-08-2019, 12:52
Was still playing until my late 20’s along with a few other sports, still managed the booze and women

lol.. yeah, swimming and other sports dont really mix well muscle group wise so had to stop them. I did play sunday league for a while but done my spleen in a bad tackle and had to stop as it was tender for years. was in hospital for a while as they thought they would have to remove it.

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 13:18
lol.. yeah, swimming and other sports dont really mix well muscle group wise so had to stop them. I did play sunday league for a while but done my spleen in a bad tackle and had to stop as it was tender for years. was in hospital for a while as they thought they would have to remove it.

I stopped when I broke my leg, which is now causing me problems nearly 40 years later. Apparently the surgical plate is the cause of an infection I’ve had for the best part of year, I am due to have surgery at the beginning of October to have the plate removed , which will also involve a skin graft as the tissue is badly damaged.

struth
31-08-2019, 19:06
That's my grandson on the ball beating his man. Lol.

He will be playing for first team the way they are going. Lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190831/a18c877db16c252572940ee193234684.jpg

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 19:12
That's my grandson on the ball beating his man. Lol.

He will be playing for first team the way they are going. Lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190831/a18c877db16c252572940ee193234684.jpg

Hope he enjoyed it

struth
31-08-2019, 19:14
Yes he did.. Quite a buzz with all the fans there. It was just a kick about really.
He scored a hat trick earlier in his morning game

Marco
31-08-2019, 19:17
Quality, mate:thumbsup:

Doubt he'll be pleased at the result of the big team today, though. Hearts are on freefall... Think Levein needs to stick to his Director of Football role, and get a younger manager in. He's way too negative.

Marco.

rmcin626
31-08-2019, 19:23
Quality, mate:thumbsup:

Doubt he'll be pleased at the result of the big team today, though. Hearts are on freefall... Think Levein needs to stick to his Director of Football role, and get a younger manager in. He's way too negative.

Marco.

Never been a fan of Levein too be honest

struth
31-08-2019, 19:29
Early days I think. They have nucleus of a decent team. Levein is wily I guess. Nice man actually, but a pro at being smart like most managers.
He is very much under pressure but only from the fans at moment. Get a few injured players back they will be fine.

struth
01-09-2019, 10:53
Good luck Marco but hope you don't win :ner: I wont be watching alas.... interesting teams.. SG going for through the middle by looks of it.. I expected Defoe to play so not shocked by him in

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 11:52
Really poor game so far

struth
01-09-2019, 14:06
Back to bad news I see.. Oh well, Probably deserved it. Well done Marco:)

Marco
01-09-2019, 14:29
Cheers, mate. I haven't watched the game yet, so will comment (in some detail) later once I have.

All I will say for now, is that I was right: the team that wanted it more, won. Last time in this fixture, it was Rangers. This time it was Celtic.

Plus, I remember having a conversation with Robin last season, when Lennon was appointed, and him saying that he was a "downgrade", compared with Brendan Rodgers, and moreover that his Celtic season ticket-holding friend agreed and had major doubts - and I vehemently disagreed...

Remember, Robin? Cluj game aside (and there were valid reasons for what happened there), what do you think about Lennon now?

I said, quite categorically, when Lennon was appointed, that he was the *ideal* man for the job, and NOTHING I've seen so far, either last season with him helping Celtic to secure the Treble-Treble, including a cup final win, or this season, Cluj game aside, has changed my mind!

Thoughts?:cool:

Marco.

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 14:39
Cheers, mate. I haven't watched the game yet, so will comment (in some detail) later once I have.

All I will say for now, is that I was right: the team that wanted it more, won. Last time in this fixture, it was Rangers. This time it was Celtic.

Plus, I remember having a conversation with Robin last season, when Lennon was appointed, and him saying that he was a "downgrade", compared with Brendan Rodgers, and moreover that his Celtic season ticket-holding friend agreed and had major doubts - and I vehemently disagreed...

Remember, Robin? Cluj game aside (and there were valid reasons for what happened there), what do you think about Lennon now?

I said, quite categorically, when Lennon was appointed, that he was the *ideal* man for the job, and NOTHING I've seen so far, either last season in helping Celtic to secure the Treble-Treble, including a cup final win, or this season, Cluj game aside, has changed my mind!

Thoughts?:cool:

Marco.

My opinion of Lennon hasn't changed it was a poor game and Rangers were awful and too be honest if it was any other game I would have turned it off. The better won. The only Rangers player who have pass marks today would be the keeper and if we play like that in Europe we will get hammered.

Marco
01-09-2019, 14:47
My opinion of Lennon hasn't changed...

Interesting... Why is that though, especially in the face of, IMO, overwhelming evidence/facts (so far), that both your Celtic friend and you were wrong about him, and I say that with the greatest of respect? Maybe it's too soon after the game, as you'll naturally still be hurting, to be rational? I get that.

Or maybe it's simply a case of Rangers fans hating Neil Lennon, for what/who he is, regardless of his undeniable success and laudable achievements to date, as a manager.....

IMO however, Lennon will go onto prove that he's a better manager than Rodgers was - and he's already started doing that, not just at home, but in Europe. As good as Rodgers was, he NEVER achieved a 6-1 aggregate victory against any team in Europe, and which included a 4-1 away victory. Plus Celtic are playing the best, most attacking football, both in the SPL and in Europe, which I've seen for YEARS!

Anyway, I'll comment more later:cool:

Marco.

struth
01-09-2019, 15:10
he isnt as good a manager as rodgers but he is what they want and some say need going for 9 and 10. he may be able to do it, only time will tell. its up to rangers to do something about it and imo their signings havent been enough this year

Marco
01-09-2019, 15:19
he isnt as good a manager as rodgers...

I'm curious though, in precisely what way? Give me some *specifics*, backed up by facts. I just don't see it:)

Marco.

struth
01-09-2019, 15:25
Only place he's been any good is Celtic and thats because perhaps they have a big budget in a smallish league. He isnt a bad manager, but perhaps a bit old styled. Rogers is a better coach imo, or at least a better coach for better players...
Book is still out on him this time around. I might add the book is still out on SG as well. He has done fairly well for a newbie, but its not the going gets tougher, so again time will tell... He does attract good players tho being who he is.

Marco
01-09-2019, 15:39
Only place he's been any good is Celtic and thats because perhaps they have a big budget in a smallish league....


Hibs? Didn't do too shabby there... And with respect, the very same could be said of Walter Smith, with Rangers!;)

Actually, in that respect, I think the comparisons between them are uncanny, especially in terms of both being DIEHARD Celtic or Rangers men. IMO, Lennon is for Celtic what Smith was for Rangers. And when he's been in charge of Celtic for long enough, will go onto prove it.


He isnt a bad manager, but perhaps a bit old styled. Rogers is a better coach imo, or at least a better coach for better players...
Book is still out on him this time around. I might add the book is still out on SG as well. He has done fairly well for a newbie, but its not the going gets tougher, so again time will tell... He does attract good players tho being who he is.

In terms of the first bit, I can sort of see where you're coming from, but of course all I care about is how successful he is at Celtic. Anything else is immaterial. Among other things, Cluj game at Parkhead aside, I think he's a more astute tactician than Rodgers, who for me was too rigid with his system, subsequently often making Celtic too predictable.

SG will go onto become an excellent manager, of that I have no doubt, but he's still learning, and today Lennon's greater guile and experience in these fixtures paid dividends. Your last point I think is spot on, because based on this evidence, especially when Celtic have all of their players fit and newbies properly bedded in, Rangers have still got a bit to go, to close the gap.

More later on our (heavily slated) 'dodgy defence'!

Marco.

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 15:59
It’s only 1 September, the league was not won or lost today, but if Rangers play like that again they’ll win nothing.

struth
01-09-2019, 16:01
Indeed robin. A long way to go

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 16:07
Rangers were well off it today, the first goal, which was well taken came from a Rangers error and the second came when Rangers were chasing an equaliser, the better team won but to be honest they were both poor.

struth
01-09-2019, 16:13
Not seen it. Might be on rtv tomorrow.
Of games hold little Interest to me. Far too much hysteria.
I'm more into the sport than the fan side.
Probably why I've always been into the kids game and the reserves etc. More sport and better behaviour. Lol

Marco
01-09-2019, 16:13
Rangers were well off it today, the first goal, which was well taken came from a Rangers error and the second came when Rangers were chasing an equaliser, the better team won but to be honest they were both poor.

Lol - that's not what's being reported in the media (various TV stations) or on the radio phone-ins, from both Celtic and Rangers fans and pundits, which I've just been listening to... Apparently, Celtic were superb and bossed the game near enough from start to finish, and if it hadn't been for McGregor, it could've been more! Plus, the much-slated Celtic defence played a blinder...:hmm:

Anyway, I'll give my honest opinion, as I always do, later once I've watched the game:)

Marco.

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 16:31
Lol - that's not what's being reported in the media (various TV stations) or on the radio phone-ins, from both Celtic and Rangers fans and pundits, which I've just been listening to... Apparently, Celtic were superb and bossed the game near enough from start to finish! Plus, the much-slated defence played a blinder...:hmm:

Anyway, I'll give my honest opinion, as I always do, later once I've watched the game:)

Marco.

Everyone will have an opinion Marco, but if you can’t pass the ball to a teammate, then the opposition will look good. The referee also had an interesting game.

Marco
01-09-2019, 16:48
Everyone will have an opinion Marco, but if you can’t pass the ball to a teammate, then the opposition will look good. The referee also had an interesting game.

So that's Celtic's fault how? You can only beat what's put in front of you. And come on, as a Rangers fan, you're not seriously going to play the biased ref card, are you?:D:doh:

Robin, you're normally such a sensible, objective and level-headed guy, when it comes to football, and you know I like you, but I have to be honest and say that your summary of this game is diametrically opposed to that of anyone else I've heard, and sadly is coming across as that of a sore loser, which really isn't like you.

Sorry mate, but I can only tell it as ai see it:(

Marco.

rmcin626
01-09-2019, 17:00
So that's Celtic's fault how? You can only beat what's put in front of you. And come on, as a Rangers fan, you're not seriously going to play the biased ref card, are you?:D:doh:

Robin, you're normally such an objective level-headed guy, when it comes to football, and you know I like you, but I have to be honest and say that your summary of this game is diametrically opposed to that of anyone else I've heard, and sadly is coming across as that of a sore loser - and which really isn't like you.

Sorry mate, but I can only tell it as ai see it:(

Marco.

I think you are misreading, I have clearly stated that the better team won. I also said the referee had an interesting game I didn’t say he had a bad one or was too blame. At half time the two pundits Kris Boyd and Kris Commons , one thought there should be 1 red and 1 yellow the other thought 2 yellows but there were none.
I have stated in my opinion it was a poor game and stand by that.

Marco
01-09-2019, 17:09
Fair enough, but I stand by my reading of your mood;)

I'll let you know what I think of the game later, and if I agree with you, I'll definitely say!

Marco.

Marco
01-09-2019, 23:53
Ok, I watched the game with my dad, who's not really a Celtic fan - he just likes a good, clean and skilful game of football. We both agreed with you in that if was a rather scrappy match overall, and that the passing of the Rangers players was woeful! So what happened to them, I wonder, as before this game they'd been great in that department?

However, right from the off, Celtic were clearly the more determined and resolute team (they obviously wanted it more) and set out to press and frustrate Rangers, by denying them any space or time on the ball, nullifying any threat they had in the process, and it worked a treat, as Defoe was starved of service, and Forster hardly had a save to make throughout the whole match...

Indeed, Rangers only had one shot on target during the whole game, which proved how effective Celtic's tactics were. They huffed and puffed, but lacked penetration and never really posed a threat to the makeshift Celtic defence, and indeed had it not been for McGregor, who pulled off great saves from Julien and Ntcham, Celtic would've won by 3 or 4, so whilst Celtic were far from at their best, I can't agree that they were poor.

They controlled the game, pretty much from the off, and were more threatening than Rangers going forward, plus much more of an organised unit. The most pleasing thing for me though was the performance of players such as Julien and Bolingoli, who beforehand had been slaughtered by the press/media and some of the Celtic fans. Both sailed through the game and had very confident and commanding performances, particularly Julien, who cleared almost everything that Rangers threw into the box, and won man of the match.

It was a close call for that between him and Edouard, who once again, like Dembele before him did, showed his class and that he is a big game player. He took his goal brilliantly. I firmly believe that Julien and Bolingoli will go onto do a great job for Celtic, along with El Hamed, who also looks the part, as does Bauer. One criticism I'd aim at Lennon, however, is his treatment of Craig Gordon, who hasn't put a foot wrong, and indeed has been playing superbly, but has been unceremoniously dumped for Forster!

Yes Forster is quality, and last time he was at Celtic did a superb job, but right now I don't see him as being any better than Gordon, and I dislike 'old pals acts':rolleyes: I just hope Lennon can keep Gordon happy. as we still need him as a quality back-up, because I don't think that Bain is as good as some think. Plus, no goal again against Celtic for Morelos... He's undoubtedly a very good striker, but he'll never go down as a Rangers hero or true great until he breaks his Celtic duck!

Pound-for-pound, I still think that Edouard is the better player and the more likely to get you a vital goal in the biggest games. The referee I thought had a good game, and tried his best to be realistically lenient and let the game flow, so if that's what you meant Robin by "interesting", then fair enough. What about the disgraceful tackle though by Jordan Jones on Bauer?:eek::mental::nono:


https://youtu.be/udWx9jKVcj8

[Once clicked, you'll need to follow the link to YT, as it won't auto-play from here].


That was ridiculous and could've been a leg-breaker!! Gerrard shook his head in disbelief when it happened, and no wonder, as that's another one of his players who clearly has discipline issues and been sent off in a game against Celtic, so Rangers will now be missing him through suspension, when things start up again after the international break.

All in all it was a great result for us, but I'm certainly not getting carried away. Like Grant says, there's a LONG way to go!

However, it'll be interesting to see how Rangers bounce back after this defeat. Their home game against Livingston should provide the platform for that, and of course I'm sure that they'll be all out for revenge in the next Old Firm encounter at Celtic Park, where they'll no doubt be trying to do to Celtic, what Celtic did to them.

It's been a good season so far, and I'm certain that there are still plenty more thrills and spills to come!:cool:

Marco.

Marco
02-09-2019, 08:12
Robin, Grant, any thoughts on this?:cool:

Marco.

struth
02-09-2019, 08:18
Robin, Grant, any thoughts on this?:cool:

Marco.

not much. ive not seen any of it. i did hear through grapevine that jones injury was caused by the celtic player hence his rediculous assault. i may get a chance to see it later today, but may not bother; we were so off the pace of it its maybe not worth it

Marco
02-09-2019, 08:33
i did hear through grapevine that jones injury was caused by the celtic player hence his rediculous assault.

I didn't see Bauer doing anything to Jones, certainly not deliberately, so there was no excuse whatsoever for that type of retaliation. Morelos behaved himself impeccably yesterday, and on that evidence you're right, he is a changed man. Let's hope he's not now being replaced by another out of control hothead!:doh:

Marco.

struth
02-09-2019, 08:34
Nope. I here wanyama is heading back to your lot

Marco
02-09-2019, 08:44
Interesting, I thought that was off... Would like to see the Greg Taylor one finalised today, too.

Marco.

struth
02-09-2019, 08:47
Think a fair chance both will get over line. Doubt we will get any more after yesterday....which will be a huge mistake by the board.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 09:24
As I said Marco, it was a poor game, Rangers went with the same tactics as the previous meeting but it was clear from very early on that it was not going to work this time round. I watched the game with my son who was at the game on Thursday night and couldn’t believe what he was watching it was night and day away from Thursday night.
As I said Celtic were the better team and deserved to win.
The referee decided not to flash cards around early on which meant there were a couple of lucky players, the Jordon Jones tackle was rightly a red card, the first yellow was 70 minutes into the game.
I just hope the Rangers players and Manager learn from the experience.

struth
02-09-2019, 09:38
The problem we have at moment is we have no width now.. Jones was all we had and he is out... ojo isnt width as he just cuts inside. McPake, Middleton and appartently Hastie all not good enough and sent out on loan. nothing coming in so where are we? watching turgid footy for most of season...Barring spending cash on a defender we dont seem to want to play we havent spent anything....
guess where the title is going?;)

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 09:52
The problem we have at moment is we have no width now.. Jones was all we had and he is out... ojo isnt width as he just cuts inside. McPake, Middleton and appartently Hastie all not good enough and sent out on loan. nothing coming in so where are we? watching turgid footy for most of season...Barring spending cash on a defender we dont seem to want to play we havent spent anything....
guess where the title is going?;)

You could be right Grant, that was the main problem yesterday no width in the team until Jones came on. If you are going to play everything through the middle, you need someone to play the killer ball. The first goal although Goldson gave the ball away it was the pass from Ryan Christie that made the goal.
The goal on Thursday night came from a cross from Jones.
Well they have a couple weeks to think about it with the International break. Still time to go to the market today but don’t think it will happen. Unlike Celtic who are on a signing spree.

struth
02-09-2019, 10:06
You could be right Grant, that was the main problem yesterday no width in the team until Jones came on. If you are going to play everything through the middle, you need someone to play the killer ball. The first goal although Goldson gave the ball away it was the pass from Ryan Christie that made the goal.
The goal on Thursday night came from a cross from Jones.
Well they have a couple weeks to think about it with the International break. Still time to go to the market today but don’t think it will happen. Unlike Celtic who are on a signing spree.

yup, we have 2 overlapping fullbacks with no-one to overlap. that leaves the back door open... one dimensional footy alas and you can set up against that easily.
SG and board have totally f**ked up..... He might as well leave now for all the good he will do by playing this way. Hastie cut up the spl last year but deemed not good enough after, what, 20 mins of a euro game? FFS SG, get a grip son. and stop sending players on bloody loan and not replacing them:doh:

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 10:15
yup, we have 2 overlapping fullbacks with no-one to overlap. that leaves the back door open... one dimensional footy alas and you can set up against that easily.
SG and board have totally f**ked up..... He might as well leave now for all the good he will do by playing this way. Hastie cut up the spl last year but deemed not good enough after, what, 20 mins of a euro game? FFS SG, get a grip son. and stop sending players on bloody loan and not replacing them:doh:

It’s clear he’s trying to play the Liverpool way, but don’t have that quality of player.

struth
02-09-2019, 10:30
Last season it was clear we needed a no10...we are still waiting. We needed a new left back...still waiting...a replacement for Cany...still waiting. Possibly another big striker to replace laugherty...still waiting.We paid over 3 mil for a cb with pedigree and dont play him even tho goldston has looked error prone, as at times is katic. The lad edmunson hasnt put a foot wrong when ive seen him but neither can get a game.
I just fail to see his logic... or the boards in that they state they "must win league" but spend no money..

as for the liverpool way....only liverpool play that way all time sucessfully as they have the players for it.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 10:40
Last season it was clear we needed a no10...we are still waiting. We needed a new left back...still waiting...a replacement for Cany...still waiting. Possibly another big striker to replace laugherty...still waiting.We paid over 3 mil for a cb with pedigree and dont play him even tho goldston has looked error prone, as at times is katic. The lad edmunson hasnt put a foot wrong when ive seen him but neither can get a game.
I just fail to see his logic... or the boards in that they state they "must win league" but spend no money..

as for the liverpool way....only liverpool play that way all time sucessfully as they have the players for it.

I think you’re right, recruitment has been disappointing, Goldson has not been playing well this season, so there maybe a change coming. We still need a playmaker Davis has been playing well but has been playing much deeper.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 11:49
Sky are reporting that Rangers are in for Kent

Marco
02-09-2019, 12:20
As I said Marco, it was a poor game, Rangers went with the same tactics as the previous meeting but it was clear from very early on that it was not going to work this time round. I watched the game with my son who was at the game on Thursday night and couldn’t believe what he was watching it was night and day away from Thursday night.
As I said Celtic were the better team and deserved to win.
The referee decided not to flash cards around early on which meant there were a couple of lucky players, the Jordon Jones tackle was rightly a red card, the first yellow was 70 minutes into the game.
I just hope the Rangers players and Manager learn from the experience.

That's fine, Robin, but you said that both teams were poor. I disagree, and so do the majority of people who watched the game. Did you listen to Kris Boyd's after-match summary on Sky? Celtic weren't poor; they simply played how they needed to play, in order to beat Rangers - and that's what happened.

Yes, they can play much silkier football, but that's not the point. The point is mate that, tactically, Lennon got it spot on.

Marco.

struth
02-09-2019, 13:43
Sky are reporting that Rangers are in for Kent

thought he was off to club bruge... there has been so many false dawns re Kent i will keep my power dry until he appears in the shirt.

struth
02-09-2019, 13:44
That's fine, Robin, but you said that both teams were poor. I disagree, and so do the majority of people who watched the game. Did you listen to Kris Boyd's after-match summary on Sky? Celtic weren't poor; they simply played how they needed to play, in order to beat Rangers - and that's what happened.

Yes, they can play much silkier football, but that's not the point. The point is mate that, tactically, Lennon got it spot on.

Marco.

Not sure I go along with that. You play well or you play poorly. not as well as you need;thats a dangerous attitude and gets you beat.

Marco
02-09-2019, 14:11
Lol - that's not what I meant... Lennon chose the tactics he thought would beat Rangers, and the players successfully implemented them - simples! And every one to a man [bar Forster, as he could've largely gone for a sleep:eyebrows:] worked their socks off to achieve it.

Sometimes you beat teams by playing silky football, as Celtic often do, and other times something different is required. Yesterday was one of those times. That's not being "poor"; it's simply playing the right type of game to nullify and defeat the opposition - and that's precisely what happened yesterday at Ibrox:)

Jeez, back in the day, the Rangers teams that Walter Smith sent to Celtic Park, aided by the brilliance of Andy Goram, often inflicted a similar thing on Celtic, particularly during the Tommy Burns era!

Marco.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 14:14
Not sure I go along with that. You play well or you play poorly. not as well as you need;thats a dangerous attitude and gets you beat.

I think at least 9 Rangers players had a poor game and several Celtic players also, James Forrest being one. In my opinion it was a poor game for the spectators unless of course you're a Celtic fan as your team won.
Anyway its a long season and the league is not won in the Old Firm games.

Marco
02-09-2019, 14:28
I think at least 9 Rangers players had a poor game and several Celtic players also, James Forrest being one.


I agree about Forrest, as nullifying his threat was one thing Rangers got right. So who else in the Celtic team, in your opinion, was poor? I'd also contend that one of the main reasons that the Rangers players you mention played poorly, is because they weren't allowed to play well, as a result of the system Celtic adopted.

You never get nine players on one team in an old firm derby having an 'off day'. Sorry, there was more to it than that.

Fully agree on your last point. The same would be true if Rangers had won:)

Marco.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 14:46
I agree about Forrest, as nullifying his threat was one thing Rangers got right. So who else in the Celtic team, in your opinion, was poor? I'd also contend that one of the main reasons that the Rangers players you mention played poorly, is because they weren't allowed to play well, as a result of the system Celtic adopted.

You never get nine players on one team in an old firm derby having an 'off day'. Sorry, there was more to it than that.

Fully agree on your last point. The same would be true if Rangers had won:)

Marco.

You probably won't agree Marco, but the keeper looked dodgy the whole game not that we tested him too much. The defence played fine the midfield cancelled each other out for most of the game McGregor was lucky not to be booked twice, once for the early tackle and second for the dive when he thought Flanagan was going to tackle him.
I thought Christie and Edouard played well.
We look at the game differently, the crowd were up for the game but after about 20 minutes they were silenced, so yes Celtic were effective, but it was a poor game and i would rather we were played off the park and lost which was not the case.

struth
02-09-2019, 16:16
Kent deal done.. a medical to pass and that it...

surprised we didnt go get Duncan from liverpool too as they want shot of him pronto

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 16:35
Kent deal done.. a medical to pass and that it...

surprised we didnt go get Duncan from liverpool too as they want shot of him pronto

Better late than never

struth
02-09-2019, 16:38
Better late than never

still want to see him paraded... He is a decent player and should improve as he gets more game time. He came on a lot last year...

Marco
02-09-2019, 16:47
You probably won't agree Marco, but the keeper looked dodgy the whole game not that we tested him too much. The defence played fine the midfield cancelled each other out for most of the game McGregor was lucky not to be booked twice, once for the early tackle and second for the dive when he thought Flanagan was going to tackle him.
I thought Christie and Edouard played well.
We look at the game differently, the crowd were up for the game but after about 20 minutes they were silenced, so yes Celtic were effective, but it was a poor game and i would rather we were played off the park and lost which was not the case.

No, I agree about Forster. Quite simply, he's not match sharp. He can't be, as he hasn't played enough games. And in the games he has played, he's not really been tested. Yet for some reason Lennon thinks he's a better choice right now, than a fully fit, match sharp Craig Gordon!:doh:

Don't get me wrong, on his A-game, Forster is top-notch and probably better than Gordon, but he's not there yet. He will be if he keeps on playing, but that's not exactly fair on Gordon, who's done nowt wrong to be be dropped for.

As for your last point, as I said before, you can't always win games playing silky football and blowing teams off of the park. There are other ways to win, and still play well, just not particularly attractively, like Rangers used to do to Celtic in the old days, and I don't remember the Rangers fans back then complaining!;)

Marco.

Marco
02-09-2019, 16:54
Kent deal done.. a medical to pass and that it...


Nice one. He'll make quite a difference to your team. He's has the same affinity for and positive effect on Rangers, as Roberts did for Celtic:)

Marco.

rmcin626
02-09-2019, 17:00
No, I agree about Forster. Quite simply, he's not match sharp. He can't be, as he hasn't played enough games. And in the games he has played, he's not really been tested. Yet for some reason Lennon thinks he's a better choice than a fully fit, match sharp Craig Gordon!:doh:

Don't get me wrong, on his A-game, Forster is top-notch and probably better than Gordon, but he's not there yet. He will be if he keeps on playing, but that's not exactly fair on Gordon, who's done nowt wrong to be dropped.

As for your last point, as I said before, you can't always win games playing silky football and blowing teams off of the park. There are other ways to win, and still play well, just not particularly attractively, like Rangers used to do to Celtic in the old days, and I don't remember the Rangers fans back then complaining!;)

Marco.

I agree when Rangers made the final in Manchester a few years ago it was not by playing attractive football, didn’t enjoy watching it. A bit like the old days when George Graham was at Arsenal- 1-0 to the Arsenal and like watching paint dry. I would rather go to the park and watch the weans playing football.

struth
02-09-2019, 17:01
As I say, paraded.. I then believe it fully. Lol
Apparently spurs want celtic to cough up at least half wanyama wages.

struth
02-09-2019, 17:58
Talk celtic are interested in rangers target moussa konate marco

struth
02-09-2019, 18:52
Kent apparently Confirmed now.

Celtic agreed Taylor deal and O'connor from man u

Marco
03-09-2019, 08:52
So was it £7m for Kent? If so, where have Rangers got that kind of money from?:hmm:

Good luck with it, and all that [he will defo improve your team], but if I were a Rangers supporter, I'd be worried of spending money I don't have and going bust again, trying to stop Celtic winning 10-in-a-row... The thing is, come January, if Rangers are on top, Celtic will just open the coffers (making way for the moths first) and sign who they need to sign in order to, as far as possible, secure the title.

The KT money has barely been nibbled at yet... And then what? Rangers go out and spend even more to try and stop Celtic? It's a dangerous game to play when you've got debts to pay and aren't rich.

Anyway, no Wanyama... Not surprising, as the wages issue was just a step too far at this stage. However, I think it'll happen sooner rather than later, as I predict he'll be Brown's eventual replacement.

Really pleased with getting Greg Taylor in, as he's just the sort of steady-Eddie, dependable defender we need, and a Scotland international. He's quality. Not KT quality, yet, but who knows! Lee O'Connor's one for future development and the boy Pingpong, soz, Jeremie Frampong, from Man City, could be interesting.

Do you know anything about him, Chris?:)

Marco.

struth
03-09-2019, 09:02
6.5m and an up to 1.5m addon if sold for profit.. 2m down and installments as most are.. not the financial end of world tbh... we hadnt spent much tbh

Getting dorrans and dodoo off books pays the wage as well

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:13
Mmm... I'm unconvinced. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Rangers accounts dept. Anyway, the good news is you've made the kind of 'marquee' signing you needed. Poor Livi, I think they're in for a hammering at Ibrox, once the international break is over...:trust:

On the subject of Scotland, any thoughts? Have we got a chance at all against Russia or Belgium, even with Clarke in charge now? For me, no. I expect us to get pumped in both games, especially against Belgium, but I hope I'm wrong!

Marco.

rmcin626
03-09-2019, 09:17
I was wondering where we getting the money from but will be paid in instalments probably, a few interesting deals at the last minute Celtic bringing in a few young players and Greg Taylor who is a good player.

rmcin626
03-09-2019, 09:18
Mmm... I'm unconvinced. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Rangers accounts dept. Anyway, the good news is you've made the kind of 'marquee' signing you needed. Poor Livi, I think they're in for a hammering at Ibrox, once the international break is over...:trust:

On the subject of Scotland, any thoughts? Have we got a chance at all against Russia or Belgium, even with Clarke in charge now? For me, no. I expect us to get pumped in both games, especially against Belgium, but I hope I'm wrong!

Marco.

Hopefully we won’t get pumped if nothing else Steve Clarke’s we’re always hard to score against.

struth
03-09-2019, 09:24
Think we will get pumped off both. Our net spend is about £6m at moment plus obviously some more in 6 months. But wages wise we are no more than we were; maybe less. We also brought in 4 top under 18's a few days ago.. 2 from linfield and one from man city and one from sporting lisbon.
We have Euro money coming in plus about 50k every game so it should be fine. Celtics wage bill is higher than the rest of the pl put together and then some. As they didnt get CL money again it will eat into the Teirney money.

A lot of wages we had have gone with more next year. Wages are the big issue. Kent is only getting 20k which is not too serious, considering what has been spent.. + he should develop into a healthy profit

rmcin626
03-09-2019, 09:29
Think we will get pumped off both. Our net spend is about £6m at moment plus obviously some more in 6 months. But wages wise we are no more than we were; maybe less. We also brought in 4 top under 18's a few days ago.. 2 from linfield and one from man city and one from sporting lisbon.
We have Euro money coming in plus about 50k every game so it should be fine. Celtics wage bill is higher than the rest of the pl put together and then some. As they didnt get CL money again it will eat into the Teirney money.

A lot of wages we had have gone with more next year. Wages are the big issue. Kent is only getting 20k which is not too serious, considering what has been spent.. + he should develop into a healthy profit


Hoping for something against the Russians but not much hope for the Belgium game.

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:29
Think we will get pumped off both. Our net spend is about £6m at moment plus obviously some more in 6 months. But wages wise we are no more than we were; maybe less. We also brought in 4 top under 18's a few days ago.. 2 from linfield and one from man city and one from sporting lisbon.
We have Euro money coming in plus about 50k every game so it should be fine. Celtics wage bill is higher than the rest of the pl put together and then some. As they didnt get CL money again it will eat into the Teirney money.

A lot of wages we had have gone with more next year. Wages are the big issue. Kent is only getting 20k which is not too serious, considering what has been spent.. + he should develop into a healthy profit

Yes, but like you we'll also be getting money in from Europe, and we had plenty even before KT was sold, plus we've no major debts. Anyway, I hope it works out well for you, not winning the title, of course:eyebrows:, but that you remain financially stable in the years to come.

Marco.

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:32
Hoping for something against the Russians but not much hope for the Belgium game.

Same here, but the Russians are no mugs, and carry a major attacking threat, which we'll do well to stem. If we can escape with losing no more than three against Belgium, we'll have done ok.

Marco.

struth
03-09-2019, 09:35
Yes, but like you we'll also be getting money in from Europe, and we had plenty even before KT was sold, plus we've no major debts. Anyway, I hope it works out well for you, not winning the title, of course:eyebrows:, but that you remain financially stable in the years to come.

Marco.

we have no debt either.

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:41
Not according to this, unless it's been paid off since, which I doubt: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemeehallwood/2018/11/01/steven-gerrards-rangers-announce-14m-loss-as-they-were-playing-a-match/

Last year debt rose to £12.6m.

And here: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3450200/rangers-celtic-finances-swiss-ramble/


Rangers last week announced huge annual losses of over £14million, prompting financial guru David Low to issue a stark warning to chairman Dave King in his attempts to win the league title.

Across the city, Celtic boasted a pre-tax profit of £17.3m in September as the Parkhead club's revenue smashed the £100m barrier.



Marco.

struth
03-09-2019, 09:42
was converted to shares. as i say we were not in europe and celtic were in cl. your ernings go down dramatically when your not alas but wages stay same.. so they will be a bit closer last year and this year. you'll still be miles ahead but not 3 times as it was. Celtic have to sell a player if they miss cl

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:45
Sorry, don't understand. You'll have to explain things in more detail.

Marco.

struth
03-09-2019, 09:49
Latest share issue wiped the debt as it was owed to directors in soft loans that were always going to be converted to stock. Those figures are fore the 2017 season when you were in cl

Marco
03-09-2019, 09:59
Latest share issue wiped the debt as it was owed to directors in soft loans that were always going to be converted to stock. Those figures are fore the 2017 season when you were in cl

Yup, the last bit I know. And just found this, which I wasn't aware of: https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dave-king-thanks-shareholders-rangers-16458692

Well, that's good news then! I'd still be careful though of getting into a spending war with Celtic, to try and win the title [especially if they up the ante again in January], as there would only be one winner of that particular battle....

Marco.

struth
03-09-2019, 10:07
Yup, the last bit I know. And just found this, which I wasn't aware of: https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dave-king-thanks-shareholders-rangers-16458692

Well, that's good news then! I'd still be careful though of getting into a spending war with Celtic [especially if they up the ante again in January], as there would only be one winner of that particular battle....

Marco.

Yup, wont be doing that.. we moved on.. Daniel Candeias, Kyle Lafferty, Liam Burt, Lee Wallace, Ryan Hardie, Lee Hodson, Andrew Dallas, Gareth McAuley, Graham Dorrans, and Joe Dodoo, a lot of those on decent money, plus the loans of Joe Worrall, Lassana Coulibaly, Steven Davis and Kent.

So wages wise we wont have increased all that much but have brought in a lot of value....Ryan Kent, Filip Helander, Steven Davis, Jake Hastie, Jordan Jones, Greg Stewart, Joe Aribo, George Edmundson, Brandon Barker; most of them young, and cost relatively little bar kent and Helander.

rmcin626
03-09-2019, 10:17
Yup, wont be doing that.. we moved on.. Daniel Candeias, Kyle Lafferty, Liam Burt, Lee Wallace, Ryan Hardie, Lee Hodson, Andrew Dallas, Gareth McAuley, Graham Dorrans, and Joe Dodoo, a lot of those on decent money, plus the loans of Joe Worrall, Lassana Coulibaly, Steven Davis and Kent.

So wages wise we wont have increased all that much but have brought in a lot of value....Ryan Kent, Filip Helander, Steven Davis, Jake Hastie, Jordan Jones, Greg Stewart, Joe Aribo, George Edmundson, Brandon Barker; most of them young, and cost relatively little bar kent and Helander.

Hopefully at the end of the season we will have something to show for all the changes.

Marco
03-09-2019, 10:20
Yup, wont be doing that.. we moved on.. Daniel Candeias, Kyle Lafferty, Liam Burt, Lee Wallace, Ryan Hardie, Lee Hodson, Andrew Dallas, Gareth McAuley, Graham Dorrans, and Joe Dodoo, a lot of those on decent money, plus the loans of Joe Worrall, Lassana Coulibaly, Steven Davis and Kent.

So wages wise we wont have increased all that much but have brought in a lot of value....Ryan Kent, Filip Helander, Steven Davis, Jake Hastie, Jordan Jones, Greg Stewart, Joe Aribo, George Edmundson, Brandon Barker; most of them young, and cost relatively little bar kent and Helander.

Cool... What's the deal then on Helander? As you say, he was a big-money signing, but doesn't seem to be getting many games, nor seems to be trusted by Gerrard in the big ones that matter (i.e. against Legia Warsaw and Celtic).

Is he injured or what?

Marco.

Marco
03-09-2019, 10:23
Hopefully at the end of the season we will have something to show for all the changes.

Yup Robin, that's the bottom line... Financially, Celtic could afford to lose the title, and simply bask in the glory of winning the Treble-Treble and 8-in-a-row.

Not so Rangers, if they lose, and then go into next season with the *unbelievable pressure* of trying to stop 10-in a row. That's why the REAL pressure is on them!

Marco.