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    ok... answering my own question

    http://www.vinylengine.com/turntable...ic.php?t=38459

    but shows how easy it is to stop with mis-information.

    'Alex' in post two says de-minerlised 'fine', but if you go down to 'Guy's he seems to give a fuller explanation of why it isn't ... . Probably (in the sense that the stuff I've bought off amazon may well use additional processes that deal with the dissolved ionic goobers). Sigh.

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    On the plus side you're not going to run short of screen wash for your car for a while
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    that's true.
    I've emailed the company that 'make' the de-mineralised water, and will update with their opinion, if one's forthcoming...

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    Daytona, Struth - thanks for your replies and info - I wasn't seeing them until a 'refresh' just now.

    triple-distilled it is I guess (at 5 times the price ... sign [again])

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    Just get distilled water, no point in skimping on a few quid. I got 2L worth for about £5-6 from APC Pure.

    All this talk about Isopro not being good for LP's is worrying. Although there are just as many saying it's safe so it must just be a myth.

    Still waiting on my bloody Pro-Ject RCM...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_LDT View Post

    All this talk about Isopro not being good for LP's is worrying. Although there are just as many saying it's safe so it must just be a myth.

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    Listen to Paul - he has done the tests.

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    Isopropyl is fine with vinyl..its been used for years..ive used it for years too... As said dont skimp on ingredients as its still cheap in long run. Goes a long way does a 5 litre tub of iso and bulk distilled h2o. If you dont want to experiment or save a bit then Pauls stuff is a good as your gonna find on market
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Isopropyl is fine with vinyl..its been used for years..ive used it for years too... As said dont skimp on ingredients as its still cheap in long run. Goes a long way does a 5 litre tub of iso and bulk distilled h2o. If you dont want to experiment or save a bit then Pauls stuff is a good as your gonna find on market
    I will be picking up some of Paul's stuff.
    His brush is too rich for my blood however, and I'll have to see how micro-fibers do / alt. natural brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I use triple distilled as it has the broadest capabilities...ive not tried de ionised ..... Sure there will be some with better knowledge around who will guide you.

    Here is a guide for what its worth...


    Effectiveness of Distillation
    Biological contaminants (viruses, bacteria, pyrogens, cysts):......Very Good
    Dissolved gases (CO2, chlorine, radon):....................................Poor
    Soluble organics (except VOC):............................................. ...Good
    Particulates (sand, dust):............................................ .............Very Good
    Soluble minerals (salts, hardness, iron, heavy metals):...............Very Good

    Effectiveness of De-ionization
    Biological contaminants (viruses, bacteria, pyrogens, cysts):.......Poor
    Dissolved gases (CO2, chlorine, radon):.....................................Good
    Soluble organics (charged ions only):........................................Good
    Particulates (sand, dust, colloids):........................................ .....Poor
    Soluble minerals (salts, hardness, iron, heavy metals):...............Outstanding

    Effectiveness of Reverse-Osmosis Filtration
    Biological contaminants (viruses, bacteria, pyrogens, cysts):......Very Good
    Dissolved gases (chlorine only):............................................ ....Poor
    Soluble organics (charged ions only):........................................Good
    Particulates (sand, dust, colloids):........................................ .....Very good
    Soluble minerals (salts, hardness, iron, heavy metals):...............Very Good

    Effectiveness of Activated-Carbon Filtration
    Biological contaminants (viruses, bacteria, pyrogens, cysts):........Poor
    Dissolved gases (chlorine):....................................... .................Good
    Dissolved organics (herbicides, pesticides, industrial solvents):....Outstanding
    Particulates (sand, dust, colloids):........................................ ......Poor
    Soluble minerals (salts, hardness, iron, heavy metals):.................Poor
    + 1 for distilled water, I get mine delivered from a lab supplier for less than £15 for 10 litres and have found it excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudioFreak View Post
    + 1 for distilled water, I get mine delivered from a lab supplier for less than £15 for 10 litres and have found it excellent.
    details on who you buy from please, Gary?
    Lots of suppliers / prices on ebay, but unclear as to how well 'distilled' their product is....

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