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Thread: National Audio Show 2009, Whittlebury Hall - My impressions

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    I wonder if anyone will do research on the age demographic for this show and see if, like all the others, it goes up by a year every year..

    What's the ppint in demming cr@p £20K+ systems to people who cannot and will never be able to afford this stuff? There's only a very few hundred people in the whole of the UK who would justify such a spend IMO..

    I have more to say on this subject, as I've spent the whole of this morning with year 7's and 8's composing on and "playing" percussion on some VERY loud bongo's, djembe's and associated instruments. I wish it were possible to get them to take the leap from MP3 personals with cheapo ear-piece headphones to a small but effective baby "HiFi!"

    Let's be honest fella's, with VERY few exceptions, most stereo's get MUCH WORSE and far further away from reality the higher the purchase price gets. I look forward to hearing a turntable based system that even BEGINS to reproduce percussive bass properly - A NAS Dias comes within spitting distance and I suspect a bass-controlled Techie may also, but this "organic musicality" so beloved of so many fruitbox owners is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG big time!!!!!!!!

    I also think that "trebly" speakers are totally wrong as well, as a hand on a drum-skin, or woodblocks clicking together, let alone cow-bells or tambourine style instruments... Those fancy, hideously expensive metal dome or otherwise tweeters jangling and spitting away don't have any real fidelity to the original sound (and yes, the "sparkle" in my BC2's ain't right either, although the added damping and port mod helps bass a bit.......
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
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    Of course the average ago of the Show visitors goes up year by year - they are the same old faces every year. I haven't been for a couple of years, I don't feel the need but when I did and when I used to help out, it was the same people over and over. Usually middle aged men, collecting leaflets and spending two minutes in each room. Train spotters, tyre kickers, what have you and they are decreasing each year, not being replaced by new blood.

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    Some pictures I took on a brief trip round the show. I missed alot but these items were interesting.

    New Project Xtension TT with 12" ortofon arm. Looked lovely.



    Galibier TT with Soundsmith Strain Gauge cartridge



    New Unison research S9 with parallel single ended 572's. Very pretty



    Clearaudio turntable



    Gamut speaker (novel styling)



    New VPI TT



    New AVID Pulsare Phono stage



    Rear of Horning speaker with 4 x Beyma drivers doing the grunty stuff



    New Systemdek 3D with 12" Audio Origami arm



    Zu Essence (damaged in transit but working well enough)



    4W PX4 mono amp by John Howes



    New Naim DAC



    Escalante speaker with some kind of Isobarik bass loading within

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    I am so sorry i could not make it ' (i was asked to work sat) and i was going to bring my camera.

    Sunday was a maybe ' but the Wife wanted to go shopping and i was paying ahh well.

    Hopefully next time , Scalford perhaps.
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    Thanks for the porn I mean photos Pure_Sound - (the wood/finish on that Project looks amazing...)
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    It actually reminded me of the kind of finish there was on some of those QUAD bookshelf speakers What HiFi used to rave about but despite that it definitely was an attractive piece. As was the Micro-esque new Palmer TT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pure sound View Post
    It actually reminded me of the kind of finish there was on some of those QUAD bookshelf speakers What HiFi used to rave about but despite that it definitely was an attractive piece. As was the Micro-esque new Palmer TT.


    Thats cute.

    Thanks for the photos Guy ....keep them coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_UK View Post
    Thanks for the porn I mean photos Pure_Sound - (the wood/finish on that Project looks amazing...)
    Amazing it may have looked. Pity it sounded distinctly unimpressive, though, Alex... Definitely a case of 'all fur and nae knickers', as they say up in Glasgow!

    Guy's SP10 absolutely murdered it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Amazing it may have looked. Pity it sounded distinctly unimpressive, though, Alex... Definitely a case of 'all fur and nae knickers', as they say up in Glasgow!

    Guy's SP10 absolutely murdered it.

    Marco.
    Where is the full detailed write up you promised us all, your reading public for before tea time .....yesterday ? Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm?


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    Ditto or bump or whatever!
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