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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post

    The message here is therefore essentially this: expect BIG things to happen, sonically, when substituting a 'common-or-garden' aluminium armboard, on a Technics T/T, for one of Steve's ebony babies!!


    Marco.
    I would also add Luxman decks with the original aluminium armboard ,as the only thing I changed was the armboard to Steves and I found the sound to be instantly more gratifying ,I would suspect that lots of all metal turntables may be effected in a similar way , the Orbe and Gyro come to mind having had experience of both
    thanks again Steve
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    Not on my radar at all. Thanks Marco.
    Fraction of the price sounds nice
    How does it compare to my Jelco SA-750D ?
    I haven't done the comparison, but my gut feeling says (and it's usually fairly reliable) that it should be better than the Jelco. Micro Seiki certainly have a fine reputation. The arms are cheap enough to take a punt on, I reckon, and could be moved on fairly easily if not suitable. Just Google for 'Micro Seiki MA 202'

    This is the sort of thing you would need, if you were using the arm with an SPU (short of getting Steve to make you a complete heavier c/w) : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-Seik...item4acbfc0d75

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    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loo View Post
    I would also add Luxman decks with the original aluminium armboard ,as the only thing I changed was the armboard to Steves and I found the sound to be instantly more gratifying ,I would suspect that lots of all metal turntables may be effected in a similar way , the Orbe and Gyro come to mind having had experience of both
    thanks again Steve
    Paul
    Nice one, Paul.

    I do agree, certainly in terms of the Technics, where I find that metal armboards impart a rather hard, clinical 'a-musical' quality, which is totally cured by the addition of an ebony armboard. The latter succeeds in bringing out all the tone and texture (and nature 'colour') in music, providing that the partnering arm and cartridge are capable of delivering such.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Nice one, Paul.

    I do agree, certainly in terms of the Technics, where I find that metal armboards impart a rather hard, clinical 'a-musical' quality, which is totally cured by the addition of an ebony armboard. The latter succeeds in bringing out all the tone and texture (and nature 'colour') in music, providing that the partnering arm and cartridge are capable of delivering such.

    Marco.
    Yep well put Marco that is exactly how its transformed the Lux in just the same way ,
    Paul

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    Indeedy. I do wonder what it will do for my slate set up. Suck and see...

    I've sourced a special 'big' bit of Ebony and its coming from Portugal!
    Hope to get it by next week and will fit it in around the other jobs
    System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.

    Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
    For more information about my creations and products please click below

    http://fosworld.wixsite.com/magna-audio & on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/magna_audio/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I haven't done the comparison, but my gut feeling says (and it's usually fairly reliable) that it should be better than the Jelco. Micro Seiki certainly have a fine reputation. The arms are cheap enough to take a punt on, I reckon, and could be moved on fairly easily if not suitable. Just Google for 'Micro Seiki MA 202'

    This is the sort of thing you would need, if you were using the arm with an SPU (short of getting Steve to make you a complete heavier c/w) : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-Seik...item4acbfc0d75

    Marco.
    I got one of those with my arm from the same seller.

    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I haven't done the comparison, but my gut feeling says (and it's usually fairly reliable) that it should be better than the Jelco. Micro Seiki certainly have a fine reputation. The arms are cheap enough to take a punt on, I reckon, and could be moved on fairly easily if not suitable. Just Google for 'Micro Seiki MA 202'

    This is the sort of thing you would need, if you were using the arm with an SPU (short of getting Steve to make you a complete heavier c/w) : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-Seik...item4acbfc0d75

    Marco.
    Micro Seiki seems very rare. Looks like I would have to wait a while for one and then be super careful as to condition. Price seems very nice 2nd hand on Ebay, mostly abroad too so another risk
    Tried looking here to see if you did a direct RS-212D comparison to Jelco 750
    Can you point me in that direction or tell me how the two compared ?
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    I got my FR64s all the way form Taiwan - was a smooth deal, no problems.

    Here is a work in progress board for SL-1210 but this one is in customer supplied Australian hardwood.
    Pretty heavy/dense and close grained. Should polish up well.






    Taken on my phone so pretty poor quality.

    There's a slight fissure in one part but that will be taken care of by the moon shaped platter cutout

    I'll take some proper pics on deck when finished.

    BTW, I've bought myself a new (secondhand) Warco precision super mini metal lathe - picking it up tomorrow. Counterweights & pulleys etc will be much easier to make with this baby.

    To be continued...
    Last edited by Magna Audio; 31-10-2017 at 13:52.
    System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.

    Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
    For more information about my creations and products please click below

    http://fosworld.wixsite.com/magna-audio & on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/magna_audio/

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    Default Ebony plank for SP-10

    It has arrived.
    Nice piece of wood. Now to get time to craft myself a board / xmas present to me and my trusty SP-10 / FR64s
    System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.

    Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
    For more information about my creations and products please click below

    http://fosworld.wixsite.com/magna-audio & on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/magna_audio/

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    Update to the Australian hardwood board that was in progress above.
    This one is for Bernie / AoS Canetoad.

    On my new lathe whilst polishing



    Oh yeah, this lathe spins up to 2500rpm and that really gets a shine on!

    On test mule deck (bit scabbly but it never leaves the workshop). Bolts shown are my own test ones - cap headed Stainless will probably be bolts of choice.



    Jelco arm hole and mounting holes drilled.

    Armboard ready for shipping once it has final waxing / polish.



    Last edited by Magna Audio; 31-10-2017 at 13:55.
    System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.

    Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
    For more information about my creations and products please click below

    http://fosworld.wixsite.com/magna-audio & on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/magna_audio/

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