Bargains on ebay?

[Marco]

I thought I'd post the auction as the more obscure vintage hifi like these speakers rarely get any coverage here in the UK. It usually tends to be the same old Quad/Leak/Tannoy/Garrard/Thorens stuff that's been done to death so I thought this might be a breath of fresh air. But, maybe I'm wrong and there's no interest in this these lesser known gems.

Well I certainly found them interesting, Andy! I didn't comment because I know nothing about them, but if I were in the market for a medium-sized pair of stand-mounts, being as I'm a massive fan of vintage broadcast equipment (and I love the rather 'sober' looking studio aesthetic of the Schulz), they'd definitely be high up on my 'must have' list, so thanks for sharing the pictures

Marco.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Very bauhaus, or was western German design philosophy

[DaveK]

It seems that this is the wrong forum for this more esoteric kind of stuff when an overpriced crappy connector seems to generate more interest and comment.

I personally don't think that theory 'holds water' - maybe if you'd been more specific about the point you were trying to make you'd have got a more acceptable response? I know nowt about such things but from my experience there's no shortage of knowledge on the "more esoteric" bits of audio kit on this forum, not to mention some 'more esoteric' members themselves .
Dave.

[Marco]

Arf!!

Marco.

[StanleyB]

It seems that this is the wrong forum for this more esoteric kind of stuff when an overpriced crappy connector seems to generate more interest and comment.

And people like me learned a lot more from those comments than I ever expected. I had no idea that some sellers bump up the price in order to give themselves time to get more stock of an item so that they don't get in trouble with eBay. Had it not been for the knowledge rich AoS community this fact would have escaped me.

How you can descibe this as a wrong forum when the end result was an upgraded insight into the workings of eBay and the scams employed by some sellers is beyond me. The thread is afterall called "Bargains on eBay?" with the question mark making it quite clear that what appears to be a bargain might not be the case at all. It is not only about exotic vintage equipment you know.

[BTH K10A]

I personally don't think that theory 'holds water' - maybe if you'd been more specific about the point you were trying to make you'd have got a more acceptable response? I know nowt about such things but from my experience there's no shortage of knowledge on the "more esoteric" bits of audio kit on this forum, not to mention some 'more esoteric' members themselves .
Dave.

I wasn't trying to make any point, just trying to bring to the forum some of the less common vintage kit that others may never of heard of which is why I wrote "Something special from behind the iron curtain".

Before posting, I had looked back over the last 12 pages of this thread, it seems to have degenerated into a dissing fest and I had hoped that my post may have generated comment on the speakers themselves rather than questioning the sellers integrity.

There are no doubt a lot of very knowledgable people on this forum and I'm not sure what your point is as the post was intended to introduce what is actually an exceptional speaker to those who may never have heard of it via an auction with text & pics that gives a fair bit of information on its design and development.

As they say, "you can lead a horse to water............."

[BTH K10A]

And people like me learned a lot more from those comments than I ever expected. I had no idea that some sellers bump up the price in order to give themselves time to get more stock of an item so that they don't get in trouble with eBay. Had it not been for the knowledge rich AoS community this fact would have escaped me.

How you can descibe this as a wrong forum when the end result was an upgraded insight into the workings of eBay and the scams employed by some sellers is beyond me. The thread is afterall called "Bargains on eBay?" with the question mark making it quite clear that what appears to be a bargain might not be the case at all. It is not only about exotic vintage equipment you know.

I didn't realise that interconnect was a "Past Master". I therefore withdraw my use of the word "Crappy" as I must be wrong.

I do however take your point regarding knowledge on ebay working although I fail to see why a seller will not just suspend the listing until he has more stock as any potential customer seeing that listing with a very high price may well be unlikely to return.

[Marco]

I fail to see why a seller will not just suspend the listing until he has more stock as any potential customer seeing that listing with a very high price may well be unlikely to return.

My thoughts precisely. People tend not to scrutinise things too deeply and judge superficially on face value, so presented with an ad like that on ebay, they're more likely to think the seller is a clown than congratulate him on his inventive approach to stocktaking!

I know I would, as evidenced by my initial reaction to seeing the ad

Marco.

[DaveK]

Andy, the point I was trying to make is that if you wanted to initiate a discussion on the more esoteric aspects of anything maybe you should have phrased your 'question' differently. I believe you are correct in your assessment of how the thread has developed and deviated from it's original purpose and that lead to your post being interpreted in the same vein.
Start a thread on an esoteric aspect on which you would welcome an exchange of views and I'm sure you'll get some very intelligent and insightful responses (but not from me ).
Dave.

[Barry]

Arrived a bit late to answer this Andy, but I was interested in your post. Interested enough to look at the listing and comment on it.

In fact I always look at your posts in this thread, as you have an uncanny knack of finding rare, vintage and exotic items of audio equipment "out there".

I do know of the Axiom 80 design and am well aware of its good reputation. I had not heard of the designer of the Klangfilm speaker, or know anything about him or his design philosophy, but that is not too surprising concerning most things behind the 'Iron Curtain'.

When I started this thread, my intention was to report genuine bargains that had been made on eBay. The question mark was added to the title, as what I might regard as a bargain, others might not. Since then the thread has broadened to cover active listings of audio gear, and comments on the final bid price once the bidding has closed. Often desirable and much sought after items of kit will eventually go for ridiculous amounts (a recent sale of a pair of BBC LS3/5s for £5000 is a case in point).

So you were right to draw members attention to the speakers and post it in this thread.

If you want to broaden the discussion, I would suggest in future a separate post is made in another section.

Regards