Who has WHAT ? --- Poll ---

[nat8808]

Well in that case why have 3 different types of magnetic tape?

If the poll wants to know, then who are we to argue? (yes the Poll is now a god like form of it's own)

Actually, hold on, no let's reduce the poll to just 2 options:

1 electrical equipment

2 acoustic equipment (includes wind-up gramaphones, pianolas and organ grinders with monkeys)

[The Grand Wazoo]

And there isn't a significant difference between playing an MP3 file out of the headphone socket of an iPod compared to playing a FLAC file from a dedicated music server into a DAC?

That's just the same as playing a badly recorded record isn't it? I can play it on any number or standard of record players. You can play the digital file on many different standards of devices or components. You can't play a 10.5 inch tape on an 8 track or a cassette deck.

[Tim]

I was only trying to explore (perhaps selfishly) that it might be interesting to find out what those 'digital' sources were? But you are all quite right it is a digital format - maybe my delivery was misunderstood, but it sure wasn't snobbery or anything to do with value, more to do with sound quality.

Anyway, I've moved on and am enjoying some Rachel Taylor-Beales on my digital player

I quite like Martin's idea though of a Gallup poll, maybe Marco will invite us round for 'tea & tiffin' to announce the results?

[nat8808]

And there isn't a significant difference between playing an MP3 file out of the headphone socket of an iPod compared to playing a FLAC file from a dedicated music server into a DAC?

An iPod has a buit-in DAC so do we have to argue whether it is good enough to be compared with an external DAC? Start listing seperate CD transports as a new catagory?

What about an iPod/iPad into a DAC then? (digital dock or via camera connection kit to USB)

Or a dedicated music server via line-out ?

All gets silly and all because one wants to differenciate their gear from stuff they think is inferior. The Gallery is there for being chuffed and excited by your own gear and achievements..

[Audio Al]

O dear

I only started the poll to see how many members had what from the list of 8 options , to see if there was a huge swing to one source , also to see the variation in listening sources

I use all my options in rotation

One day the TT , next the CD and so no sonetimes 2 sources in a day , they all get used

No intention to start WW2 1/2

Please chill out

[Tim]

Don't worry Allen I'm all cool here, things can often go south when Nat pipes up - anyway it added a bit of spice to an otherwise quiet Saturday night.

So overall you can gauge it a success on that score, nowt wrong with a bit of healthy audio debate and it's highlighted that it really is time I bought a TT

[Alex_UK]

An iPod has a buit-in DAC so do we have to argue whether it is good enough to be compared with an external DAC? Start listing seperate CD transports as a new catagory?

What about an iPod/iPad into a DAC then? (digital dock or via camera connection kit to USB)

Or a dedicated music server via line-out ?

All gets silly and all because one wants to differenciate their gear from stuff they think is inferior. The Gallery is there for being chuffed and excited by your own gear and achievements..

Well there's no point in going round in circles, and I've not once suggested anything is superior or inferior. In my main system on input 2 I have a laptop, convertor and DAC for playing FLAC files, Spotify, internet radio, DVD-A etc - input 4 is connected to an iPod doc for playing low quality digital files conveniently from playlists. IMO they are two very different sources, and I don't see why wanting to differentiate between the two is anything to do with "being chuffed and excited by your own gear and achievements.." but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree!

[PLINIUS]

6/8, still looking for the right R to R to replace the 2 track Teac I had a few yrs. ago.
Will never own an 8 Track, it was the analogue equivilent of MP3 in the 70s.

[Stratmangler]

That's just the same as playing a badly recorded record isn't it? I can play it on any number or standard of record players. You can play the digital file on many different standards of devices or components. You can't play a 10.5 inch tape on an 8 track or a cassette deck.

You can't play a FLAC file on an iPod without jailbreaking the iPod first.

[shane]

Interesting that after thirty years of digital audio "progress", the one thing that seems common to nearly all of us is vinyl.