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    Over on the Timestep site , Dave has announced a new platter for the Techy , i thought folk on here might be interested !

    It appears to be quite a different approach , very little detail so far though but the choice of material could be interesting .
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    Did i read last week of a AOS member getting a platter upgrade by Vantage audio or am i imagining it

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinB View Post
    Did i read last week of a AOS member getting a platter upgrade by Vantage audio or am i imagining it
    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10750 post 14 onwards colin
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    Thanks Darren.

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    Over on the Timestep site , Dave has announced a new platter for the Techy , i thought folk on here might be interested !
    I'll pop over for a giggle at what pish he's came up with this time. Hey, it might even be as 'good' as his bearing - now imagine that!!

    It appears to be quite a different approach , very little detail so far though but the choice of material could be interesting .
    A familiar tactic by Mr Cawley... Create a smoke screen and be as vague as possible, just in case someone who knows what they're talking about quizzes him on something he can't answer!

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

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    I noticed the platter advert as well. I must admit that DC is extremely vague and to be honest this actually puts me off wanting to buy anything from him (not that I would anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I noticed the platter advert as well. I must admit that DC is extremely vague and to be honest this actually puts me off wanting to buy anything from him (not that I would anyway).
    I wish he would give a straight answer , with it some detail and perhaps the thinking behind any major modification to the SL1200 , as more and more we are seeing these changes , which are far removed from the original design ! Which seem to suggest the guy's that designed this TT didn't do a very good job and that these day's we know better
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    I wish he would give a straight answer , with it some detail and perhaps the thinking behind any major modification to the SL1200 , as more and more we are seeing these changes , which are far removed from the original design ! Which seem to suggest the guy's that designed this TT didn't do a very good job and that these day's we know better
    David Price of HiFi World made a similar comment regarding his unmodified Yamaha speaker the NS1000's, in that they put considerable effort, funds and brain power into designing the speakers. No it seems that anyone in a shed can produce something that is infinitely better. Now dont get me wrong I bought a lot of mods for the 1210 of mike new but after you've spoken to the guy you do realise that he really DOES understand the 1210 . At least Mike answers any question thats thrown at him, and usually with a very informative answer.

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    Well if I was launching a new product (which I am actually) I would not want to give the game away until it was ready, surely that makes sense? DC, MN, Vantage, KAB and others all have their own take on what it takes to make the SL1200/1210 truly wonderful, IMHO the bearing/psu/platter are mere pieces in a complicated jigsaw that we will still be debating over when we are 90 (that is 42 years from now for me).

    I know this forum is heavily biased towards the Techy and I applaud that, could it possibly be that DC reads this forum and knows it's members and if he let the cat out of the bag prematurely it would harm future sales of his platter, I bet! After all it cannot possibly be better than Mike's can it...

    Vantage have a platter up-grade as do the outfit in the US, both involve adding another material to the stock platter, I suspect DC's is the same as machining a new platter from scratch would involve lots of hidden costs, personally I am now listening to flacs for a while until I get bored with that, my JR pre-amp is away for repairs so until it returns its flacs for now.

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    You make valid points, David.

    However, Dave C's always been 'Captain Vague', and he always will be. He specialises in it, and so has vagueness down to a fine art for his own 'particular' reasons!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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