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    Ouch, a cable touching the wall

    Better get out the helium balloons me thinks
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    It's all in good fun Mark, bit of an ongoing joke TBH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beechwoods View Post
    It's all in good fun Mark, bit of an ongoing joke TBH
    Glad to hear it, i'd be worried if there was a serious side to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beechwoods View Post
    Steve Toy has written up some thoughts on Scalford, and has posted a few pictures as well, over on AudioFuture - http://www.audiofuture.net/showthrea...Hall-Show-2011
    Nice write up - sorry Steve for teasing you about the cable touching the skirting board!
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    I think Steve would have heart failure if he saw my cabling behind the scenes. I simply can't avoid some of them touching the wall and many of them (interconnects, speaker, mains) lying alongside each other.

    Ah well, I'll take the opportunity to tidy the runs when I rip it all apart to try Mark Grant's balanced cables when they're ready <cough>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    I think Steve would have heart failure if he saw my cabling behind the scenes.
    That sounds like my system ... cable spaghetti. Yummy!
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    Just keep your signal cables away from the mains. my wires have always been perfectly laid out cos thats how i am anyway, not for reasons some do. saying that if peoples mains cables are so fantastically effective at doing what they do why worry eh

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    Interesting thread that I missed on Wigwam, started here by Steve Toy:

    http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread...it-more-detail

    It's nice comments like that which make the (considerable) effort involved in exhibiting (our third year in a row) all worthwhile!

    I will comment on some of the observations made later

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    Marco

    What about this statement from Steve !

    Oh, one more thing, as much as the praise of our system felt good, the speakers played only a very small part. If a system is setup properly using good components and ancilliaries, any old ropey pair of speakers will do...

    Was he not too keen on the 66's then ?
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    LOL! Far from that - he loved them (much like everyone else)

    What he was getting at was the fact that people were attributing the good sound we produced mainly to the sonic qualities of the speakers, and somewhat ignoring the (huge) influence everything else was having, particularly our attention to detail in terms of cabling, supports, and 'mains management'.

    It's that attention to detail which Our Ethos here (and also that of AF) is all about, and speakers aside, the results we achieved speak for themselves...

    I will tackle the problems with having a speaker-first philosophy to system building later, but it's safe to say that I think people should consider spending less on the boxes (and yes, also speakers) which make up a system, and more on ensuring that they're able to hear the full potential of whatever equipment and speakers are chosen in the first place. That is only achieved through optimising the set-up.

    Experience tells me, time and time again, that a system containing well-chosen, yet fairly inexpensive (or not outrageously priced) boxes and speakers, set-up optimally, always outperforms a mish-mash of overpriced 'audiophile jewellery', badly, or less optimally, set-up - FACT!

    Ok, so the AoS system we demonstrated wasn't exactly cheap, but neither was its total cost equivalent to the value of large detached house, as are some systems demonstrated at commercial hi-fi shows!!

    I mean, has anyone heard as good a sound from the system demonstrated in the Absolute Sounds room at Whittlebury Hall, often totalling a cost high into six figures, as we achieved in the AoS room at Scalford with a pair of totally unmodified 1970s speakers? Think about it, and then wonder why I always bang on about 'badge-fi' and SPPV

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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