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    Hi Mark,

    Am I missing something? This seems to be about power suppplies rather than platters.
    Yes... The clue is in here (see bits in bold):

    In short, the SR5-21 PSU, the sonic talents of which I already knew from hearing it at work in my own system, had made one of the biggest improvements to the SL-1210 I had heard so far in all my years of using it. But there was more still to come - MUCH MORE - and that would be realised when I analysed in isolation the sonic effect of the Mike New platter on my own T/T, which would make me realise, even when modified to this level, just how much more latent sonic potential the SL-1200/1210 still had to offer.......

    I must get to bed now, as I'm up early for the Manchester hi-fi show tomorrow. Part 2 of my report will be continued upon my return.
    It's a two-part review! And the bit about the platter is in part 2

    However, the second part of the review won't be posted until tomorrow, as I'm just in from the Manchester hi-fi show and knackered after travelling miles going round in detours and sitting in queuing traffic, as they decided to shut part of the bloody M56!!

    I have to say that I am entirely unconvinced by the supposed benefit of raising platter mass.
    And, if you remember, so was I. However, it turns out that my scepticism in this instance was unwarranted

    All will be revealed tomorrow!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Look forward to part 2

    Im curious how the PSU was swapped out so easily when, as far as i know the DC lead has to be soldered inside the techy onto its PCB.

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    Hi Colin,

    You don't touch that part of the lead, mate. It's the other end of the DC lead that connects into the back of the power supply (either the Timestep, SR3 or SR5-21) that's plugged in or unplugged when changing PSUs

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I think from what i have been reading that once i get all other projects out of the way i'll be modifying my Aiwa AP2600

    PSU isn't a problem as i can design & build my own When i fit new stuff in this rack of mine i'll pull everything out for cleaning & i'll get some pictures of the deck & see if you chaps reckon it'll be easy or not to fit a new tonearm.

    The platter is pretty heavy on it's own, the deck itself must weigh about 3 or more stone

    I'll be open to suggestions

    Interesting reading Marco, keep it up chap & i'm also interested in reading Pt 2

    E2A:- Jeez, half of AoS is on google images Just type in the following & scroll down:- aiwa AP2600 image

    I nearly pissed myself laughing

    Still virtually no pictures of my deck on the net though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant View Post
    E2A:- Jeez, half of AoS is on google images Just type in the following & scroll down:- aiwa AP2600 image

    I nearly pissed myself laughing
    That is very funny!
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    Soz, call me thick, but I don't get it....

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hmm............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Soz, call me thick, but I don't get it....

    Marco.
    Hi Marco, apologies but i found it mildly amusing simply because there is naff all information out there on this deck of mine. I went searching for a decent image & all i got was AoS stuff. This was no doubt because i own one & post on here, so all sort of AoS images came up

    The only info i could find is about as much as i know myself which is here.

    Naturally i want to find out more, the chap that posted that thread wasn't underestimating the weight of either the platter or the deck itself

    Obviously i'm not wanting to make the tread drift but i would certainly like to find out more about what i have here & possible modifications that will benefit the thing. Hense my posting on here in the first place

    Hmm............
    You do a lot of that Mark, care to hum a tune
    Bests, Mark



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    Hahaha... I just don't see the connection between the report on my trip to Martin's, an "aiwa AP2600", and AoS and Google Images...........

    Would someone care to explain?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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