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    Default But if you want to avoid heavily DJ used gear, then why go for a tt meant for DJ use

    In order to preserve a WTB thread I have moved Finn's comment to here and have started a new thread to deal with his opinion on why anyone would want a Technics 1200/1210 TT.

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    But if you want to avoid heavily DJ used gear, then why go for a tt meant for DJ use rather than pick one for the quality of sound?
    Last edited by Spectral Morn; 08-09-2010 at 11:06.
    Finn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultralyd View Post
    But if you want to avoid heavily DJ used gear, then why go for a tt meant for DJ use rather than pick one for the quality of sound?
    I hope Ledgie does not mind me answering on his behalf.

    Because increasingly there are those who rate this TT for its potential after modding (pretty good from standard too imho) outside of the DJ community and therefore there is a chance of picking one up from a Hifi enthusiast (who mostly tend to look after their kit better than a work horse DJ might) who needs to sell it for what ever reason.

    I got one recently from a HiFi enthusiast...in near mint nick.

    Finn have you heard a standard Technics 1200 or 1210 with a good MM on it ? If not then you should as it is very good. A fully modded one from SoundHiFi or Mike New or Kab etc is even better. I used to read comments on here about Technics and wonder about what was written here but I choose not to comment until I had actually heard one. Well imhe all that has been written here is 100% true and I can't wait to take mine further.

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    Last edited by Spectral Morn; 06-09-2010 at 10:51.
    Regards Neil

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    Hi Finn

    Because the 1210 actually does sound good even in stock form and has the potential to sound quite a bit better with a few mods ' such as a Timestep psu and main bearing and don't cost the earth, you see at its heart the 1210 has a superb direct drive motor system , which with these mods elevates the deck into something far removed from DJ use.

    Its not super high end but a great alternative to the usual Rega's and Projects .
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    I hope Ledgie does not mind me answering on his behalf.
    Not at all Neil. Those are my thoughts exactly.

    Thank you
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    I sincerely hope that Finn is not a troll, here only to 'slag off' the Technics... I have my suspicions!

    Finn, if you've not yet posted pics of the system you listed in your welcome thread, please do so next time you visit before posting anywhere else. I would like to see some evidence that you are who you say you are.

    Cheers!

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    It would also be worthwhile mentioning that the 1200 was originally designed as a Hi Fi turntable. Its use migrated to clubs and DJ's because it not only sounded good, but was also ultra reliable and its build quality was sufriciently good for it to handle the use/abuse dished out in professional audio reproduction

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    Indeed, Andy - and this fact is often something the 'naysayers' choose deliberately to ignore. Either that, or they're ignorant of this fact in the first place!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Originally released in 1972 as a high end hi fi turntable. It has been around longer than most of the DJ's that play on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Hi Finn

    Because the 1210 actually does sound good even in stock form and has the potential to sound quite a bit better with a few mods ' such as a Timestep psu and main bearing and don't cost the earth, you see at its heart the 1210 has a superb direct drive motor system , which with these mods elevates the deck into something far removed from DJ use.

    Its not super high end but a great alternative to the usual Rega's and Projects .
    I guess as an alternative to Rega's and Projects, they'll do.

    I am NOT gonna post pictures of my system.
    Why whould I?
    Is that something everyone here are forced to do?
    I don't understand this?


    My reply to the above was.....


    No one is forced to do anything Finn bar a very strong suggestion to say hello in the welcome section but I must say that I detect a real attitude behind your NOT...... also you don't say if you have heard a Technics or not and then offer a begrudging Project or Rega comment.

    One thing I can't abide is those offering pearls of wisdom on kit they have not heard ( if you confirm that you have then I apologise) either to the positive or the negative. If you have no first hand experience (in this case with Technics )then read and only comment when you have heard the item in question.

    Its this kind of thing that give forums a bad name imho.....the term is thread crapping your previous post 3 imho qualifies as such.


    D S D L
    Last edited by Spectral Morn; 08-09-2010 at 11:06.
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