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Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
No need to be cryptic. If something, or someone, is bugging you then spit it out. If the source of your annoyance is here, on AoS, then again tell us what it is so we can sort it out if possible.
I'm guessing it's something political but since I never watch or read the news I've no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Not meant to be cryptic at all. Neither do I consider it political at all. I consider it stupid. Either this guy is just "punking" people or he (and/or his handlers) have zero idea what a poop show it would be if they ever tried to enforce any of that nonsense. Some people (as in see below) need to go sit somewhere and listen to more music if the lunacy is reaching all the way to me and mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
London Metro Police Commissioner Mark Rowley
It still isn't clear what the issue is, Afesteringvinylphile (sorry, I don't know your real name). Is it something the London Metro Police Commissioner has said? Only as far as I know, Mr Rowley doesn't post on here, and probably won't get to read your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Found it now:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...d=BingNewsSerp
"We will throw the full force of the law at people. And whether you’re in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you," Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News.
He doesn't seem to specifically mention America or that he's talking about extradition. He's not really saying anything of any substance in fact.
Plus, as our American friend here says, the whole reason they got the guns in the first place was to keep the king of England out of their faces.
So it's Fox News. Hardly the world's most accurate and unbiased news channel.
CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Wise people learn to be respectful of other countries, other cultures. Wiser still find something they can learn from them.
Like the DCS thread... Where some folks' (CEO of DCS) heads are at in 2024 is astonishing in its idiocracy. Threatening people based on a viewpoint they hold is beyond childish whether lawfare of unenforceable criminal penalties. 98% of people I interact with are done with it and are or getting past the point of holding their tongue about it.
I do not know of anyone (here in the US) who thinks, "Hey I'm bored, let's go screw with some Brits!" FFS, this Commissioner should be tossed out on his arse.
We have now put are plans to visit London (a trip I've wanted to make for a decade) on permanent hold. If London has turned into anything like my birthplace (NYC) which is what I hear... that is a trip we will never make, as I could not care less whether I ever step foot back in NYC, such is the chaos and ruination of a once inspiring place.
I agree with you, completely. Fox, MSNBC, (heaven help us) CNN, etc. So to that point, if said "news" made it to me, which it did, it did not come to me through any mainstream media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
You can call me Ray, or you can me Jay... or you can call me Fester...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Per the title of the thread, "something...anything", that's what was on my mind.
I admit to some indignance on my part. But, imagine for a moment if you got wind that some nut job in the states, a chief of police from say, New Jersey (Snookieville) said he was prepared to hunt down people in Wales or Staffordshire or Essex or Tokyo even if they spoke out of turn, posted an "incorrect opinion" on AOS. I am willing to bet that would get someone's ire up. Why poke the bear??
In the DCS situation it was their American VP of Marketing who made the lawsuit threat to an Englishman.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
He was either sacked or fell on his sword and the CEO has apologised and given compensation. It wasn't the CEO making the threat.
If you've not been to London before it's still worth a visit. Lots to see and do. Yes, we have a few assholes here who want all views they don't agree with supressed, and they're very vocal about it, but that's about it. The vast majority would agree with you about the principles of free speech.
But incitement to violence or racial hatred are criminal offences here and rightly so. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre.
I do not feel sorry for him (the VP).Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
That is good to know. The vocal minority seems to pride itself on being arrogantly obnoxious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
In the states one cannot incite a riot or make death threats for any reason, either. Likewise, I cannot go about town brandishing any of my firearms and I (and my wife) have a conceal carry permit and live in an open carry state; does make for polite society ;). It is not actually the wild, wild west in America. Most of that nonsense is reserved for densely populated, poor, urban centers that are host to a bevy of other criminal activity...and ironically, have the most restrictive (Constitution defiant) firearm restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Honestly, most US firearm owners aren't concerned about tyranny (not saying they shouldn't be) or "brain-lite" Mark Rowley coming to do our heads in with a rusty spanner as much as it is evening the playing field against an assailant of any race, nationality or creed, typically illegally armed, coming against them.
Incitement is easier to prosecute, hatred of any kind less so, and it borders on thought crime. Your idea of racial hated I'm guessing with have a higher threshold than some blue haired Wokes type. Any incursion on free speech really is the most slippery of slopes. The recent example of that 53 yr old woman who posted on Facebook about burning down a mosque, 'with the adults in it', she got 15 months in prison with no previous. I understand the harsh sentences given out during these far right protests are common in periods of civil unrest, fairness goes out the window, and all the authorities are thinking is to bring things back under control, so they come down hard. I understand similar sentences were handed down during the 2011 London riots, though I could not make a peer reviewed like for like comparison, because you know, I'm just a van driver and not an academic. But ok, prosecute her for incitement, that doesn't mean she has to go to prison, what happened to taking into account previous good character, the fact that she was a carer for her husband, etc? Personally I think her remark was ugly, but I don't think it carried any influence, and that jailing her was a bit insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
For me incitement must be direct, and especially if it forms part of behaviour which borders on terrorism. I only wish the rioters would have made their point peacefully, because we in Europe do have a problem with violence committed by recent arrivals, or the kin thereof. There are actually fuckwits on Twitter who think people like Douglas Murray should be arrested for incitement.
We have a new left wing government in the UK, were you aware of that? So that means cracking down on free speech, or as they call it 'hate speech'. We'll probably end up like other states with left wing govts. like Canada, New zealand etc, and soon anyone who questions things like adults changing sex, or whether there's any such thing as a British person, will literally be thrown into prison with no trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Yes I understand that, I've spent a fair amount of time there. If it were legal here I would probably own a weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
The crime is incitement to racial hatred, not racial hatred itself, that's an important distinction. You can hate whoever you want to but inciting it is illegal. Not familiar with the case you mention but does seem like a pretty stupid thing to say, maybe prison will give her a chance to grow up a bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
The idea that you can create a 'better society' via legislation is fundamentally flawed, I agree. But that's what happens when you have politicians who are lawyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
When you have a hammer all problems look like a nail.
I was talking about incitement to violence, which I thought was the crime she was prosecuted for. CLearly she's a bit dim, 15 months in chokey is no laughing matter, especially when Labour are meant to be tackling overcrowding in prisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
https://www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news...ebook-29739775
They've already tackled that by the simple solution of letting a load of the current inmates out early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
A bit like Blair's solution for Northern Ireland - just give the terrorists everything they want. Job done.
Look for more 'Gordian Knot' style solutions coming soon.
Off the present topic... but... I love that you have that Sony controller/processor. Your setup seems so clean/uncluttered and likely sounds pretty **** good. In a secondary system I have an early 2000's(?) era Sony AVR and the internal DAC, though limited to 24/96, is preferable to me over some (not all) modern DACs (liquidity vs. uber detail?). Through experimentation, I found that although, per the manual, Sony does not implicitly say it supports 24/88.2...it actually does quite easily. Even downsampling 24/192 (at the source) and sending it to the Sony DAC sounds very good. I have no idea what chips/implementation Sony was using at the time but I kind of wish standalone Sony DACs were a thing at that time. Maybe they were and I just don't know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
There was a Sony DAC in the late 1980s, high end ofc:Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
DAS R1 - http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-DAS-R1.html
And the R10 in the 1990s http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-DAS-R10.html
Yes, I love that Sony pre-amp, one of the best things I ever bought and I've had a lot of kit over the years.
I like the look of the R10 (especially if it was available in black), not only for the balanced outputs, but for the BNC digital input (though it is not clear if it is actually a 75 Ohm version).
From memory, I think Marco uses a Sony R1 DAC in his system.
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Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
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Originally Posted by Macca
None of this is encouraging...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
But, heck, I should be used to it, if you consider the massive amount of uselessness paraded as progress going on in my country. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Macca
Great site, thevintageknob; drool cup is always needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
I love how overbuilt that stuff was/is. I have learned that a lot of great Japanese gear never made it over to the US. I have also often considered getting a 120V to 100V converter... ...and going shopping many times. It is somewhat similar to when I discovered UK and Japanese jazz that was apparently going on at the same time US jazz was happening but we didn't hear about it because (so it seems to me) the powers that be kept us living in a bubble. I digress.
God help America if the demos are stupid enough to vote Trump in twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
We made some very wise decisions when Trump was in office. Had we not, the current administration would have bled us near dryQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
That 'Ring Doorbell' advert where the woman uses the alarm feature to scare a fox off her driveway. What's that all about?
You can see it's already had the bin over and spread the contents across the drive so you're going to have a mess to clean up when you get back regardless. Might as well just let the bloody thing eat what it wants out of it now, there's nothing more to prevent.
Unless she thinks that once it's had its dinner, it's going to break into the house and steal her jewellery.
You can bet Trump had zero to do with any of those decisions, because he barely has a clue what goes on in the WHite house, not even reading basic memos, he had to have everything explainded to him, and then of course there was the turnover of staff, an absolute embarrassment to the highest office in the land, and the leader of the free world, God help you and us if he gets in again, expect some serious attacks on democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Here is where we will have to agree to disagree. I live here. I no longer give any credence to mainstream media talking points. I know intimately the difference between life under Trump and life under Biden (not to mention Bush, Obama, etc.). Factually and objectively there is no contest nor comparison. Neither America nor the world will benefit from the unnominated Kamala (if they let her actually run for the general election) or any other thrown in uniparty stand-in.. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Unnominated? If you care about democracy, then why on earth support Trump, I'm absolutely baffled why Americans can't see him for what he is, a shabby autocrat, I mean how can you still respect him after he told his supporters to march on Capitol hill, and how he contested completely fair election results, his lack of respect for the press. I'd say you're sleepwalking into an autocratic nightmare, but its so blatantly obvious that its screaming into your faces. Honestly its insane that that shabby failed businessman is in the running for the highest office on the planet, Roosevelt is spinning in his grave. It was Trumps maneuvering in the supreme court that meant some states were able to turn back the clock on women's reproductive rights by over half a century. Yet here you are a seemingly intelligent person supporting an absolute slob.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Constitutional Republic; America has never actually been a democracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
At any rate, where do you think the Civil Rights Movement would be if there was not a march on Washington??? It was a peaceful march to represent where many in the country stood on that particular (indeed, political) issue at that time. The talking point is that the former President did not include the words "peacefully and patriotically". It is a matter of record that he did. You can't incite a riot if you call for peace and patriotism and all claims of insurrection go completely out the window.
The former President is not the only one who then and is now contesting the election results and the results of other primary and presidential elections. Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and many Democrats on the hill contested election results. That is also a matter of record. They did.
Without lowering ourselves to character assassination, let's have an honest look at some things. First note, I have never been a Republican, a Democrat, a Libertarian or even an Independent. I am simply driven by facts. Now...
There were a host of problems with the last election. There were a host of unconstitutional changes to voting laws prior to said elections. It is no different now with the push to change even more laws (eg. allowing illegal aliens the right to vote, something never before allowed in the history of the country). It is clearly stacking the deck for an administration that does not want to lose power and purposefully opened the border to illegal aliens for that reason. Now, before you assume me to be some sort of racist, my very good friends born in Mexico, who went through the legal process of becoming naturalized citizens are none to happy about that, either. The US is supposed to be a country of law and order. Another friend, a naturalized citizen from Wales, has the same view. There is a process. There has always been a process.
The failed businessman... Let's look at that. First of all, you don't get to live as he lives if you're a failure, financially or otherwise. If that is failure, please let me be as big a failure as he is. I would be set for life. As I mentioned, I was born in NYC. I remember the former President from back in the 80's. No one had a problem with him then, not hip hop "stars", not black people, not politicians, no one. The only people who had a problem with him were foreign investors trying to buy up NYC real estate. To which, he has always been pro America and went about the task of buying up NYC real estate so his beloved city could not be overrun by foreign interests. He earned the vitriol of the "political elite" because in 2016 the people chose him over them.
Women's reproductive rights... For years people clamored for the federal government not to be able to dictate abortion (cause that is what is meant by women's reproductive rights. Let's not be coy). So, this decision was given to the individual states to decide (as in the people who live in each state and seemingly more easily vote in and/or vote out representatives who do not represent them). I do not see the issue. The former president/federal government literally does not have a say in this any more.
Lack of respect for the press... You know, I actually watched the entire video comments the former president made about Charlottesville. Not the edited mainstream version but the one that included a plainly worded denunciation of white supremacy. After that, I had to ask myself some hard questions like, "Why did they truncate his words?", "Why did they continually lie about that?" and "What else have they lied about?" Those questions prompted me to look deeper. "The press" has lost my respect. I do not appreciate being lied to...about anything...as in don't spit on me and tell me it's raining. Zuckerberg just admitted in writing the coercion of FB by the uniparty governing body and other agencies, Musk exposed X (formerly Twitter), on and on it goes and "the press" was/is in lockstep with lying to the public. Even on a local scale, I have caught the press in lie after lie. "The press" has earned mistrust and lack of respect.
Thank you. I do consider myself an intelligent person. That is why I refrain from character assassinations such as "absolute slob", "shabby" or "failed". Rather I prefer to seek out facts such as, "What did said president actually accomplish while in office?", "Did the president actually keep the campaign promises made?", "Was my family and I actually better off during the president's term in office?", "Was the country safer?", "Were we personally safer?", "Was the economy better and cost to live lower?", "Were race relations better?", "Were we engaged in any wars or conflicts?", etc. etc. I could also ask, "What actually is Ms. Harris' record?", "These things she says she will fix, she's still in office, why hasn't/isn't she fixing them now?", "Has my family/the country been better off with her as vice president?", "What actually is her platform?", etc. etc.
I realize some people would prefer not to ask themselves those questions but, I do. And, I did. I continue to.
You raise many points, but I'll deal with just one of them, abortion, or as I 'coyly' put it, reproductive rights, I mean, perhaps you wouldn't see it as coy, if you were a woman, and there was this red faced hypocrite who thinks women can be 'grabbed by the pussy', telling them what to do with their bodies, oops, there's me getting all ad hominin. But yes I believe here that this is a federal matter, and that America as leader of the western world should be pro-choice. I know the US has its federal and state laws, but there must be some cohesive ideology that binds it all together, and that is, that it is part of the modern western world, and that we accept civil rights, which includes racial equality (would you support certain states turning the clock back on that issue? Hell, let's bring back segregation, cos, you know, it's that states democratic right for its people to decide how they live right?). And how many women can you imagine Trump got pregnant and then tidied it all up with a discrete, rich peoples hospital, sexual hypocrite baby disposal service? Oops there's me getting all ad hominin again, I mean how can you not be, with an asshole like Trump. I mean stop me here, but, you actually believe in this guy ???Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Imagine, if you will, that you are a US citizen who is firmly planted in one camp or the other; pro-choice or pro-life. Now imagine that "orange man bad" and/or SCOTUS have decided to maintain control over this issue and the side they have chosen is not the side you are on. Imagine yourself pregnant and desiring termination of "the pregnancy". Provided you have also determined yourself to be a law-abiding citizen, likewise determined to have a legal abortion, what now is your only option? Right. Leave the country for the procedure and perhaps permanently. If, as it has been done, it was a state's rights issue, you would possibly have 49 other states you could move to, well realistically, probably 15 or 16...without having to give up your citizenship and the enjoyment of the freedom of speech that affords you the right to continue to campaign for your viewpoint perhaps leading to your desired state changing it's stance on the issue. In this case, the former President and SCOTUS actually just did you a huge favor. I, myself, have lived in 4 different states and remain where I am currently because the state's laws on many issues are conducive to how I prefer to live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
My particular view on abortion is irrelevant, as is the former President's and SCOTUS' now that it is a state issue. The abortion issue is not and will never reach unanimous agreement. So, leaving it a one (federal) decision for all is a massive gamble for everyone. If the President did decide this issue, it would go one way or the other and maybe not the way you want it to. You used the word "autocrat" and yet you want him to be an autocrat in this particular instance. That is nonsensical. And again, if we use that term "democracy", well...there is far more room for that if the residents of any given state choose their state representatives who will represent them where they live.
I am going to have to toss out your pairing the abortion issue to the segregation issue (because there is no such issue). The voices that may be making noise for a return to segregation are miniscule, as in the extreme minority. It is a non sequitur. There is no parity, not even in towns/states where you would think (due to false media claims) such claims would have credibility.
Now that...was masterful comic relief. :lol: My wife even asked me why I was laughing. But, you are starting to sound like someone who does not have demonstrable facts and thus resorts to name calling. This is why the Harris/Walz campaign is failing. People (only some) forget, the former President...was already the President. He got us into no new wars and stood toe to toe with any other leader of any other country. The economy was far better (ie. cost of living, cost of fuel, cost of food, employment, etc.). He sent more money to HBCU's (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) than any president before him. Our border was neither overrun by illegal immigrants nor fentanyl and other drugs. His policies were working. His track record is impressive no matter which previous president you stand him next to. Yes, if that's an "asshole" I am voting for the "asshole". :lol: Biden could barely walk and talk (no exaggeration) and got booted from the ticket by his own party and Harris/Walz have no policies (that the former president did not come up with first) and only that same kind of blind vitriol that you seem to be echoing so eloquently. America cannot be successfully run on lies, back-peddling and anger. There must be strength and substance; cult of personality is a distant third. I do not care about mean tweets, offending people with facts or an inability to placate the mentally unstable who feel like identifying as a duck, today. No. the President needs to run the country and run it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
I am not trying to insult you; however, I do think you owe it to yourself to, perhaps, educate yourself a little bit more on these issues (aside from the mainstream media agenda/talking points). Delve deeper.
I've been feeling a bit subdued of late; being
reminded of my own mortality.
Don't get me wrong - I am in excellent health given my age: still have a full head of hair (albeit grey); all my teeth, apart from a couple of wisdom teeth with my dentist assuring me that my teeth will see me out, and not needing any hip or knee replacement.
So what has brought on this sombre mood? Well it was learning yesterday that the well-regarded and influential audio reviewer Paul Messenger had died earlier this year. I only met him on the one occasion when I went down to the HiFi News offices in Croydon to collect a Breuer pickup arm he had sold me, but I found him to be a very amiable chap and one with whom you could have a decent discussion about all things audio. But the real reason for my sober reflection is that Paul was only a few months younger than me.
I then realised that many of the sensible audio engineers and reviewers seminal in my audio journey are no longer here. What we do have are "influencers" who do no more than fawn over the latest and most expensive items to appear on the market, or talk utter nonsense about fuses, mains plugs etc., arrogantly claiming that one would have to be completely deaf not to hear the difference!
OK rant over - I've got it off my chest, and feel better now.
Don't be giving these so-called influencers a moment's thought - it's attention they thrive on, as well as the money that attention brings to them. We just laugh and regard them with the contempt they deserve, they probably won't like that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
And I've no doubt you, your hair and your teeth will be around for many years to come, you're needed here!
i actually find it refreshing to speak to someone who clearly isn't stupid yet who supports Trump, but I'm wondering what's going on there. So are you trying to tell me that my, admittedly ad hominin attack wasn't justified? I mean you actually can't imagine Trump ever having to resort to a 'discrete abortion', the 'grab em by the pussy' line was just fake news right? A man of his stature and wealth (unearned stature IMO). And yes I think that women's reproductive rights should be a federal and not a state issue, a point you didn't address. America decided this half a century ago, now forget about all the central and local decision making, and tell me why you think this shouldn't be a woman's right? This is an overarching view of any modern democracy, but tell me why you disagree? Because without ideology democracy is nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
Hmmm... I do not really support Trump. I support America and the sovereignty thereof because...I am an American citizen. That causes me to look at each candidate and decide who among them most supports the sovereignty of this nation and who most respects our Constitution given that we are a Constitutional Republic. As in, which candidate is protecting my rights. Demonstrably, since the choice like it or not is between Trump and Harris (Harris at this point, anyway), Harris has exemplified an irreverence for our Constitution, our laws and a general respect for the rights (not to mention intelligence) of US citizens. The former President, in comparison, epitomizes the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Again, you say, unearned stature and wealth. So, ask yourself the question, "How did he become wealthy?" Ask yourself the question, "Prior to ever becoming a Presidential candidate, how did he become notable and what for?" Leaving conjecture and opinion behind, what are the facts? You'll have to go back a lot farther than The Apprentice.
"Was (it) just fake news"......... You tell me. Have you searched out the truth in that matter? Was that what he said verbatim? Or, were the words reordered and taken out of context? Even if they were not, let us again step back and ask ourselves some questions. An oft paraphrased quote goes something like this, "We judge our own character by our best intentions and most noble acts, but we will be judged by our last worst act." I can only speak for myself, that I have indeed said far worse around the water cooler "talking trash" with colleagues and friends full well knowing I was going to go home, just like they, and tow the line with the wife. Should I, you or anyone else be disallowed promotion or opportunity because of it? I am afraid I am not in the cancellation cult, not easily offended and abide not by the confines of the current misguided culture so pervasive in some corners of social media. I have spent too many years chasing critical thinking. If we were standing about Jesus as he wrote sins in the stand, I am certain the same people casting aspersions (shade, as the youth say) on the former President, would be walking away just as guilty or perhaps even more so.
On "women's reproductive rights", I did address that. I just do not believe you were or are willing to accept the answer. If true democracy is one person/one vote...then America, as a whole, is pro-life. (...so much for an overarching view of any modern democracy...) That is a fact that folks who are pro-choice simply cannot get on with. How is it that democracy is of the utmost importance until it disagrees with your ideology? So, in fact, what you want is not democracy, at all. What you actually want is for everyone to bow down to your particular viewpoint. That...is not going to happen anywhere on the globe. It is akin to this, the anarchist does not truly want anarchy because that person knows that would be a grave threat to their own wants and desires...when the wants and desires of another anarchist conflict with their own. At that point, it is survival of the fittest; the stronger person subjugating the weaker. No amount of mental gymnastics will render that untrue. Again, the job of POTUS is far greater than that one issue. Democrats and Republicans both, have long pushed for "one issue" elections in hopes that the public at large could easily be steered by that one factor. That does not benefit the country, only people seeking a quick road to gain or maintain political power. The more astute among us simply are not submitting to that.
It is the Labor Day holiday here is the US and it is time for me to (continue to) enjoy the day with family and friends. I appreciate the civility of the discussion. It is up to you to accept/understand/research the answers I have supplied to the questions you asked of me. It is probably time to let others have airtime in this thread. As always, I look forward to your other posts throughout the forum. Cheers!
I'm not sure the majority of Americans are pro life actually, you'll have to drum up some solid evidence for that. TBH I'm stunned that you put any faith in Trump regarding the constitution, this is the man who called the 2020 election results fake, I'm wondering where you're getting your information from, obviously not the 'fake media' right? And that you think he embodies the qualities needed of a the highest office in the land, if not the world, what planet are you on? Are you not aware that he was barely able to carry out the office of president? There are books about it, the constant hiring and firing of staff, his reluctance to read memos or prospective bills, his racist campaign against Obama (that he wasn't US born). But you say you don't support him? Does that mean you would vote for him or not? Because if its a case of anyone but the democrats, then you may regret that, Trump has said some very worrying things, least of all his complete lack of respect for elections, the very bedrock of democracy. Oh and he was a rich kid right? And then a failed businessman, then a stupid TV celebrity, and a friend of Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
His campaign manager - Paul Manafort - was also the campaign manager for Putin puppet Yanukovych, the corrupt president of Ukraine, who was ousted by his people in 2014. Trumps links to Russia are questionable at best. Russian bots spread disinformation across social media in support of Trump, because of the chaos they knew he would bring to America. This may sound one sided, and I am no supporter of Woke culture or cancel culture, so I know the reasons for disenchantment with the mainstream political process - aka 'populism' affects Europe as well as the US, but people like Trump are not the answer, and can bring about rapid destabilisation .
I would like someone to go up to our new Home Secretary and say "Hey Yvette, where are we on the tackling people-smuggling gangs thing?"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8lklkxx5no
Maybe the money for it disappeared into that £22 billion "black hole" ;)
Are you forgetting that Trump was already president for 4 years and...absolutely nothing happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Now if he gets in again he'll somehow bring the world to an end? The office of President is pretty much impotent if his party does not control the congress and senate. Which it didn't and won't.
Obama had 8 years and what did he manage? Not a lot. Fuss about nothing.
Nothing happened, well he couldn't be arsed to read any of the daily presidential memos, so I'm not surprised, as well as the monthly turnover of white house staff, because they didn't survive his 'your fired' bullshit, he thinks its one big reality TV program. Apart from that we've seen the damage that a rogue president can do to the US system of govt., with his election of those right wing supreme court judges, and the effect it had on women's reproductive rights, putting the clock back 50 yrs. He says the 2020 election was stolen, he told his supporters to march on Capitol hill, are you still not picking up on these dictatorial tendencies?? If he gets elected a second time, just think what he'll try to get away with, that doesn't mean of course that if he is elected that I hope those things come true, just to say I told you so! But they are a serious danger at the moment, with the state of US and how divided it is, remember the people there have guns!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
To become a dictator he would need the support of the military, I can't see that happening ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Not as many people there have guns as you might think, and in any case isn't that an obstacle to dictatorship not an aid?
I'm guessing you've never been to the U.S?
Really? The military that assassinated its own president? America is a country of extremes, ripe for a military dictatorship as it's ever been. Again, these are things I hope do not materialise, but they are real dangers, besides all that, why would anyone vote for this fucking clown?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Which US President was assassinated by the US military? None that I know of. JFK was assassinated by an ex-marine, but that is not the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
I can't recall a president being assassinated by the military either.
Ironically, assassinating people is one of the few things the U.S President can actually do. But not in America.
Well, the 'CIA within the CIA'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Good grief. Who said Americans can't do comedy?
https://youtu.be/lHycpIhnFcU?t=40
I watched most of this televised debate - I really don't know who came out on top, but Donald was definitely the funnier of the two :)
If he was a fictional character in a T.V show people would say he wasn't believable.
**** me, anyone know about this? It's ****ing nuts!! Mossad had prior knowledge of 9/11 yet didn't warn America!!
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...ember-11-2001/
Ignore the above conspiracy theory, its since been debunked as a loadofoldbollocks, but it does seem we're closer to being fried to death, as Britain takes the brave leap into the unknown. Slava Ukraine!