Deaf Row!

[southall-1998]

Must give the Mission 760i or 780SE another go someday. Currently using some 1990's vintage Mordaunt Short MS10 Speakers. Sound very good indeed!

S.

[Tim]

These are proper Hi-Fi speakers and one could live with a pair happily.

Yup :)

[walpurgis]

Corner speakers are done. Drive units fitted and wood given a final polish. Now what do I do with them? :scratch:

http://i67.tinypic.com/2pq6wlg.jpg

[Bigman80]

Corner speakers are done. Drive units fitted and wood given a final polish. Now what do I do with them? :scratch:

http://i67.tinypic.com/2pq6wlg.jpgThey look fantastic Geoff.

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[struth]

pop them in the sales and see. if not, keep em.. tidy speakers

[walpurgis]

They look fantastic Geoff.

They look OK now. There were chunks of veneer missing which I've 'invisibly' patched in and the grilles looked like somebody had crapped down them.

[Bigman80]

They look OK now. There were chunks of veneer missing which I've 'invisibly' patched in and the grilles looked like somebody had crapped down them.In comparison to how they looked.

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[Firebottle]

Corner speakers are done. Drive units fitted and wood given a final polish. Now what do I do with them? :scratch:[/IMG]

Er .... put them in the corners? :doh::lol:

[walpurgis]

Ah. What have we here?

http://i64.tinypic.com/s5fzt0.jpg

A Creek Destiny 2 integrated amp. Heavy beast. And sounding very good indeed.

It's about the most neutral sounding amp I've heard, everything crystal clear and no emphasis on any part of the audio spectrum, transparency is great. Lovely!

Not mine. My mate brought it over.

[struth]

first one ive seen. they get good rep.

[walpurgis]

It's a bloody good amp. I reckon you could slot this into just about any system and get very fine results.

My mate has it driving his Tannoy Chatsworths as a change from his regular EAR 861 and he's very pleased with it.

[struth]

It's a bloody good amp. I reckon you could slot this into just about any system and get very fine results.

My mate has it driving his Tannoy Chatsworths as a change from his regular EAR 861 and he's very pleased with it.

doh!! another guy with more than one great amp .... no wonder the rest of us have to make do with the dregs :lol:

[walpurgis]

doh!! another guy with more than one great amp .... no wonder the rest of us have to make do with the dregs :lol:

He's got a couple of Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro's as well! ;)

He's my best mate and we have rather similar tastes. Same guy who bought the nice Mission 780SE's I showed here the other day. Oh, and he has a set of Tannoy System 10 DMT's too! :D

[struth]

He's got a couple of Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro's as well! ;)

He's my best mate and we have rather similar tastes. Same guy who bought the nice Mission 780SE's I showed here the other day. Oh, and he has a set of Tannoy System 10 DMT's too! :D

hate him already;)

[walpurgis]

hate him already;)

He lurks here and will know what you said! :eek: :guns:

[struth]

he's banned :D

[Firebottle]

Is he getting the Creek back? :eyebrows:

[walpurgis]

he's banned :D

You can't ban somebody who hasn't joined! :D

[walpurgis]

Is he getting the Creek back? :eyebrows:

I'm afraid he's gone home with it. Wouldn't have minded hanging onto it for a few weeks. :)

[walpurgis]

I gave the system half an hour to warm up and now I'm giving the KEF Corellis a blast with a bit of June Tabor. Sounds bloody amazing. The big Tannoys are still having a 'holiday' while I've got these little beggars wired up :).

I find it remarkable that a pair of comparatively inexpensive old speakers can turn out this kind of sound quality.

The Corellis do have a reputation as being a bit of a 'sleeper' and being familiar with all the old 'C' and 'Reference' ranges of KEF's, I'd say that's correct. The imaging and mid lucidity are similar to the LS3/5a, but there's actually some effective and solid bass too.


Interesting review here: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/bas/0908/

[southall-1998]

I gave the system half an hour to warm up and now I'm giving the KEF Corellis a blast with a bit of June Tabor. Sounds bloody amazing. The big Tannoys are still having a 'holiday' while I've got these little beggars wired up :).

I find it remarkable that a pair of comparatively inexpensive old speakers can turn out this kind of sound quality.

The Corellis do have a reputation as being a bit of a 'sleeper' and being familiar with all the old 'C' and 'Reference' ranges of KEF's, I'd say that's correct. The imaging and mid lucidity are similar to the LS3/5a, but there's actually some effective and solid bass too.


Interesting review here: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/bas/0908/


Next thing Corellis will be fetching LS3/5a prices! Keep your mouth shut :D

S.

[walpurgis]

Next, I'll start banging on about the old Trio KA-2000a amplifier from the early seventies. An unsung hero if ever there was one.

Actually, that's given me a thought, one of those would be great with the Corellis. Now what's a cheap but excellent sounding CD player. Most would say such a thing doesn't exist, but it does. The ADC CD2000e!

[southall-1998]

In a ''Janet Street-Porter'' style......SHUT UP!!

;)

S.

[Firebottle]

:rofl:

[walpurgis]

Another pair of KEF Corellis just gone to an appreciative owner.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kef-Corelli-Speakers-excellent-condition-hardly-used-with-original-paperwork-/162774044745?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=uPOzs0v8MAFr7ESFGxdh%252BUsCrRc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I know who bought these. It's my buddy with the Creek Destiny 2 that I was using last week and showed on this thread. He enjoyed the sound of my Corellis.

[southall-1998]

Blimey, did some arse inject steroids to the price! 2-4 years ago, I used to see Corellis selling for £70-130.

S.

[walpurgis]

Most are not in mint condition. I've seen higher prices asked though and he doesn't have to pay shipping, as he can collect.

[southall-1998]

Well, I've seen mint examples selling way below £100. But this memory is going back to around 2013. I predict another rip-off ebay price brewing for the Corellis future.

S.

[walpurgis]

Just ordered a Sjostrom Audio DC blocker.

http://sjostromaudio.net/shop/mains-circuits/60-dct02-dc-filter-for-toroidal-transformers-built-unit.html

http://i65.tinypic.com/21l97jb.jpg

I'm hoping it will keep transformer buzz down. I expect it provides a degree of protection to transformers too.

I've got one piece of equipment with a noisy transformer and I had a power amp mains transformer fail not long ago.

[AlfaGTV]

Great choice! Built and installed mine a couple of weeks ago, works perfectly and my big fat power amp is now quiet as a mouse! :)

[Gazjam]

Picking one up for my Airlink balanced mains unit, looks like it works really great.
Its in another room so don't hear any buzz, but cant help feel its putting some muck on the electrical lines somewhere?

[walpurgis]

KEF Corelli speakers. Just giving these little things another go after unhooking the big Tannoys. The transparency of the Corellis is quite remarkable, especially when you consider their simple design and forty year age. I have the original Monarchy Audio SM-70 (not the Pro version) power amp driving them and the way you can hear deep into the recording is uncanny. I was playing some 'Biosphere' and the huge ambience came across superbly.

[walpurgis]

That's very disconcerting. I was playing Sharon Robinson's 'Everybody Knows' album on CD and noticed some bass distortion on right channel whilst playing the title track. I thought 'bugger, a rubbing speaker coil'. So I took the bass driver out of the Corelli and checked it over. Seemed OK, put it back and played the track again, distortion still there, so I swapped the speaker leads over. Sure enough, distortion on left now. It's on the bloody recording!! :rolleyes:

[struth]

or the amps:eyebrows:

[walpurgis]

or the amps:eyebrows:

Already swapped power amps to check. :)

[struth]

How dare the screw up a Sharron cd Glad it's not amp

[walpurgis]

Oh dear, my Pioneer PL-61 has fallen apart.

http://i64.tinypic.com/ogc1tx.jpg

Seriously though, I'm going to try and resurrect this. The arm is knackered, the anti-skate mech has been busted at some time, not uncommon on these I gather, frail plastic innards. Not to worry, I was thinking of installing another arm anyway.

The main turntable section seems all good, apart from a deteriorated thrust pad under the main bearing spindle. The bearing itself is super quality, full length bronze bush in very nice condition and a snug fit with the spindle even without lube.

http://i67.tinypic.com/x1n789.jpg

Dunno which arm to fit though. Jelco SA-5, Linn LV-V, Decca FFSS, Helius Basic or Mission 774. Might go with the Helius, as I've never used it and it is the original first model, which was quite well reviewed.

[struth]

bearing will be good, and we all like a big bronzed bush:eyebrows:

[walpurgis]

The innards. Check out the size of that Hall Effect motor.

http://i63.tinypic.com/jg6vm1.jpg

[walpurgis]

The remains of the old main bearing thrust pad. Looks similar to Tufnol. I'm just going out to the workshop to make a new one.

http://i68.tinypic.com/13zsahu.jpg

When I took it apart, the bearing was packed with thick grease and the spindle was very resistant to turning. Somebody used the wrong lube at some time. There are 'mole grip' marks on the bearing base cap. I'll remove the offending marks and lube with decent oil. Gonna need an 'O' ring, biggish fibre washer or silicone sealant to stop oil leaking, I'll suss that out later.

The new pad should be fine, but if the Tufnol wears, I'll bung a brass one in.

[struth]

snapped like chocolate.

[walpurgis]

snapped like chocolate.

Yeah. More or less. :)



Here's the new one.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2qv58ck.jpg

A perfect fit.

http://i67.tinypic.com/96gpq8.jpg

[walpurgis]

Right. Main bearing all back together and lubed. I found a thin synthetic rubber washer just the right size to seal it. Mole grip marks ground off, so it looks as it should again. Up and running, with speeds steady after a couple of minutes to settle. It hadn't been run for about twenty years. Wiil get around to checking the motor over properly later.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2le2xd3.jpg

Next main job. Arm fitting!

[struth]

well done that man

[walpurgis]

I have a feeling this is going to be a nice sounding TT, it's quite hefty. A sort of belt drive 401 :). I'll add some bracing and damping to the base and might put some decent vents in the bottom cover, so the air inside does not form a resonant 'box'. I won't leave it off, as there are mains voltages in there.

[struth]

would be inclined to give wood a good stripping....and redo, perhaps altering colour slightly.:) maybe a ebony armboard too

[walpurgis]

Yes. I will refurbish the wood. I like the existing Walnut, so that'll be staying.

Already got an armboard made up, going to do that charcoal semi-metallic to match the existing paint on the TT. Already have the paint.

Next will be mounting the board before marking out for arm position.

[Macca]

Looks okay so far. Looks like it could be a decent deck.

[walpurgis]

Looks okay so far. Looks like it could be a decent deck.

I hope so. Very few of these about. Even fewer modded ones. They are very rare.

[southall-1998]

I remember seeing that Pioneer number of times, when I used to visit round, Geoff.

S.

[walpurgis]

I know you did Shane. It's well overdue for some attention.

[walpurgis]

Just bought this for a bit of fun. Seventies Cambridge P60. Looks mint in all the the photos and has original box plus manual. One British classic I never got around to owning. Now I'll have to sort some DIN interconnects.

http://i64.tinypic.com/rtkv9t.jpg

Yes, I know the top has been slightly depressed, I'll soon sort that.

This should be interesting. The P60 is reputed to sound very good.

[walpurgis]

Back view.

http://i66.tinypic.com/ri9jio.jpg

[Firebottle]

Always liked the look of those Geoff, good find :cool:

[hornucopia]

Good luck on the DIN plugs! I just rummaged in my bag of wire (Monster Cable 1980s, anyone?) but I must have given my DIN wires away. Even have long phonos Massive Attack used via a Betamax to digital record!

[walpurgis]

I think I may have some tucked away. Not needed any for about twenty years. :)

[Barry]

Just bought this for a bit of fun. Seventies Cambridge P60. Looks mint in all the the photos and has original box plus manual. One British classic I never got around to owning. Now I'll have to sort some DIN interconnects.

http://i64.tinypic.com/rtkv9t.jpg

Yes, I know the top has been slightly depressed, I'll soon sort that.

This should be interesting. The P60 is reputed to sound very good.

I have a P50 with matching T55 tuner. Both have the brushed satin silver finish to them, but I think the black finish looks better; especially with the silver knobs and switches.

[walpurgis]

Just posting a link so I can find my Tannoy thread next time I want it. :)

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?19555-My-new-(vintage)-Tannoy-Cheviots!&highlight=%28vintage%29+tannoys

It's just taken me half an hour to track it down.

[southall-1998]

Just posting a link so I can find my Tannoy thread next time I want it. :)

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?19555-My-new-(vintage)-Tannoy-Cheviots!&highlight=%28vintage%29+tannoys

It's just taken me half an hour to track it down.


That content is nearly 6 years old!! I'm starting to feel a little old :lol:

S.

[hornucopia]

Send it to yourself on e-mail?
Or, as we're SOOOO old, use old technology-pencil + paper? (-:


I await younger chaps telling us the myriad ways you can memo stuff on computer.......

[walpurgis]

Just bought this for a bit of fun. Seventies Cambridge P60. Looks mint in all the the photos and has original box plus manual. One British classic I never got around to owning. Now I'll have to sort some DIN interconnects.

http://i64.tinypic.com/rtkv9t.jpg

Yes, I know the top has been slightly depressed, I'll soon sort that.

This should be interesting. The P60 is reputed to sound very good.

The Cambridge P60 is here. And sounding very good through headphones.

Appears to be a low use amp, little sign of wear and tear. All controls quiet apart from the volume pot which crackled very slightly until I worked it back and forth a few times. Got to make up a set of DIN to banana speaker lead adaptors yet before I can connect speakers. What I did notice was the quick warm up, it sounded a bit thick and two dimensional to start with, but opened right up after five minutes.

I'll sort speakers out and bung another photo on tomorrow. Seems a nice amp.

[Lawrence001]

I gave the system half an hour to warm up and now I'm giving the KEF Corellis a blast with a bit of June Tabor. Sounds bloody amazing. The big Tannoys are still having a 'holiday' while I've got these little beggars wired up :).

I find it remarkable that a pair of comparatively inexpensive old speakers can turn out this kind of sound quality.

The Corellis do have a reputation as being a bit of a 'sleeper' and being familiar with all the old 'C' and 'Reference' ranges of KEF's, I'd say that's correct. The imaging and mid lucidity are similar to the LS3/5a, but there's actually some effective and solid bass too.


Interesting review here: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/bas/0908/Interesting, I've never heard anyone say before that the kef reference range was for those who play their music loud, while the C range was for those who want better sound!

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[southall-1998]

I've had KEF 105's. They can sure rattle your kneecaps!

S.

[walpurgis]

Blimey. Got the P60 wired to the speakers about fifteen minutes ago. This is a good sounding amp and as with the headphones earlier, it's opening up as it warms. Bass is there, even and clear mid and a very clean top end. Bit of a bargain. :)

[struth]

was a good amp geoff. a nice addition to your collection.

[southall-1998]

Not a Nait killer though :D

S.

[walpurgis]

Eight sets of amplification now (not including an unfinished Tripath item). Do I need that many? :)

[struth]

Got to have a backup plan [emoji23]

[walpurgis]

Cambridge P60 in its new home. Driving the Corellis at the moment and seems very well matched to them. It's very good on vocals, clean and free of grain. Certainly transparent too. Channel separation seems very pronounced.

http://i67.tinypic.com/35iyxrk.jpg

Could this forty year old ebay amp be all that one needs :)? I can't fault the sound at the moment. Was playing some June Tabor and now on some Shpongle.

[Audio Al]

Eight sets of amplification now (not including an unfinished Tripath item). I need that many

Geoff , Just tidied up you text , Its correct now :D

[walpurgis]

:lolsign:

[walpurgis]

I've just realised that I'm listening to the music now rather than the system. That's always a good sign. :)

(playing a bit of Richie Havens now)

[walpurgis]

It seems I now own yet another pair of Tannoy speakers (my 23rd pair). These little things:

http://i68.tinypic.com/ws5kr5.jpg

The i6 AW model. Horrible 'all weather' (hence the 'AW') plastic enclosures that impart some dreadful colourations. But inside, should be a pair of the 1678 drivers and crossovers, as employed in the System 600 cabinets. Very sweet sounding things. Like these:

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ymx2j5.png

I'll need to rehouse them in some decent boxes. It's the third pair of i6 speakers I've had. I just hope these don't have the alternative ICT drivers in, but I doubt they have.

[struth]

here's hoping geoff...

[walpurgis]

Found a (not very good) piccie with grilles off.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2en7xx0.png

Here's the System 600 for comparison.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2r2c1mq.png

[struth]

look very similar. drivers alone as spares will be worth a fair bit. wonder if seller ever had fronts off

[walpurgis]

look very similar. drivers alone as spares will be worth a fair bit. wonder if seller ever had fronts off

If I recall, the grilles are hard to remove. Probably in order to keep the speakers hard wearing in demanding situations.

[hornucopia]

I've just realised that I'm listening to the music now rather than the system. That's always a good sign. :)

(playing a bit of Richie Havens now)

Reminds me of his stint at Woodstock. He came on stage playing (ATTACKING! his guitar!) and 'ended' just wandering off into the field, still playing.

(Just played it - I can 'see' that field on my speakers - or beyond them! (Ocellia Calliopes)

[Liffy99]

Used to have the P110. It was ok but not as gutsy as its 55w suggested (decent output in those days).
Crikey, when I think of some the “icons” i used to own - Tannoy Chatsworths, Ferrograph and Leak amps, Lenco GL75, Quad 57s, Maggie 2.5 ribbons . . .

[walpurgis]

Crikey, when I think of some the “icons” i used to own - Tannoy Chatsworths, Ferrograph and Leak amps, Lenco GL75, Quad 57s, Maggie 2.5 ribbons . . .

Yes. I've owned all those and many, many more, apart from the Maggies.

[walpurgis]

Hmm. A largish box has just arrived! Wonder what's in it? Wiill open it later and find out. :)

http://i64.tinypic.com/xm6hbk.jpg

[struth]

been buying again?

[walpurgis]

been buying again?

It should be that smaller pair of Tannoys I've been waiting for. They were due last week, guess the weather held them up.

[struth]

lol.. more speakers :lol:

[dantheman91]

Just put my Tannoy 615 MK2 back in :eek::eek:

:cool:

[Macca]

Have you still not opened that box? Hope no-one sent you a supermodel or she would have suffocated by now.

[walpurgis]

One Pair of Tannoy i6 speakers.

http://i63.tinypic.com/dw4ec0.jpg

[struth]

Checked drivers yet

[walpurgis]

Nope. Gonna plug 'em in and see if they work in a minute.

[walpurgis]

Been having a rummage and done a 'stocktake' :).



INVENTORY


Cartridges:
Goldring Eroica LX, ZYX R100, ZYX R100 02 H, ADC 10E Mk.II (x2), ADC 10E Mk.IV, ADC 550E, Decca Mk.III elliptical, Shure M75ED (x2), Shure M75 6, Linn K5, Goldring G800 (x2), Decca Deram.

SUT:
Osawa OS-100T

Tonearms:
Decca FFSS, Mission 774 (x3), Linn Basic LV-V, Helius Standard, Jelco SA-5

Turntables:
Pioneer PL-61, Toshiba SR-370 (x2) Connoisseur BD1 (x2), Pioneer PL-12D (x2)

Phono stage:
Sugden Optima

Tuner:
Rotel TR-830AL

CD players/transports:
Meridian 507, Trichord Research Digital Turntable, Pioneer PD-S505 Precision (x2)

MiniDisc deck:
Pioneer MJ-D707

Jitter busters:
Theta TLC, Monarchy Audio DIP 48/96

DAC's:
Monarchy Audio M22b and M22c

Valve buffer:
Musical Fidelity X10-D

Pre-amplifiers:
Little Bear passive, FX Audio Tube 01, VTL Deluxe, Promithieus TVC, MingDa MC-9 TVC, Moth Series 30 active, Tisbury passive

Power amps:
Classic Tubes CT15 EL34 monoblocks, Quad 306, Monarchy Audio SM-70, Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro

Integrated amplifiers:
JVC AX-A441, Cambridge Audio P60, Technics SU-C04, SMSL T Amp

Speakers:
Tannoy Cheviot Mk.II, Tannoy Ascot, Tannoy i6, KEF Corelli, Mitsubishi Diatone DS-30B and little Philips things with ribbon tweeters

Other:
Cables (loads), headphones (several), reverb unit, Realistic graphic equaliser, Trio audio timer, speaker drive units and crossover components (way too many to list), general bits and pieces and parts (again, way too many to list



I'm sure there's more stuff I've forgotten!






.

[walpurgis]

I need to thin the collection down (see last post). What should I flog? Suggestions?

[southall-1998]

Everything and then afterwards get a Bose Wave.

S.

[struth]

i would lose 3 tt's. a tonearm,; a couple of carts and a pre or 2. maybe a cd player too. oh and an integrated to start with and see how you feel with the cash.;)

[Macca]

I'd shift the 'jitter busters' and the valve buffer on. Keep all the hi-fi equipment though :D

What's the deal with your Mitsubishi Diatone speakers? Never seen you mention them before.

[walpurgis]

I'd shift the 'jitter busters' and the valve buffer on. Keep all the hi-fi equipment though :D

What's the deal with your Mitsubishi Diatone speakers? Never seen you mention them before.

One of the jitter busters and the valve buffer are integral parts of the system and in use. They make a noticeable improvement.

The Diatone speakers are used by my daughter. They sound pretty good actually. A sort of Japanese equivalent to Wharfedale Dovedale III's, but better made.

http://i68.tinypic.com/fo26h1.jpg

[Macca]

Mitsubishi made some great stuff back in the day, shame it is so rare over here. Is the Diatone brand still going? I've seen pictures of their big speakers and they look the business. Never heard any though.

[walpurgis]

Is the Diatone brand still going?

As far as I know it is. We don't see their Hi-Fi gear in the UK, so it's hard to tell.

[Shovel_Knight]

As far as I know it is. We don't see their Hi-Fi gear in the UK, so it's hard to tell.

I think they closed it down in 1999.

I liked their upmarket A&D (Akai & Diatone - Akai was also a part of Mitsubishi in 1980s and early 1990s) lineup.

[walpurgis]

Akai was also a part of Mitsubishi in 1980s and early 1990s

I didn't know that, but apart from the odd tape or cassette deck in the seventies, I've not paid huge attention to Akai.

[southall-1998]

Geoff's next upgrade. :D

23116

[struth]

I didn't know that, but apart from the odd tape or cassette deck in the seventies, I've not paid huge attention to Akai.

had an akai amp and tape deck.. amp was better than you would have thought

[walpurgis]

More goodies for the collection. Just won these on ebay. Anybody recognise them?

http://i67.tinypic.com/seu8g4.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/2pothf7.jpg

[Barry]

Were it not for the die-cast baskets - I would have said EMI 13 x 8" ellipticals, but those I think had pressed metal baskets.

So, no idea. Do tell!

[southall-1998]

They kinda look like my grandfather's slippers :D

S.

[walpurgis]

Were it not for the die-cast baskets - I would have said EMI 13 x 8" ellipticals, but those I think had pressed metal baskets.

So, no idea. Do tell!

They are EMI. But they were sold as unidentified. These are one of the 14a/770 series I believe. The cast chassis elliptical EMI's were used by Monitor Audio, Proac and Mordaunt Short amongst others and of course in EMI's own systems. The grey vinyl roll surrounds are unusual, these are normally black.

[Macca]

They kinda look like my grandfather's slippers :D

S.

Your grandfather is Frankenstein's monster? That explains a lot :D

[Macca]

Come on then Geoff what are they man?

Other than more big bass drivers you're never going to use.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. I like drivers. :)

EDIT oh I see you told us already. Barry wins.

[hornucopia]

Date? i used something similar to make (well made, but atrocious) speakers in school, circa 1965/6.
Didn't even know about sound baffles etc.! Single valve, bought in electronic shop,on a strip chassis, amps......

[walpurgis]

EMI made a variety of 13" x 9" elliptical speakers from the fifties into seventies.

Some basic and cheap and others like those just bought by me, much more advanced and quite expensive at the time.

They could sound very fine, others not so much. The alloy framed versions had slightly greater overall dimensions, but the cone measurements were fairly constant. Some had aluminium cone centres, some didn't. Same with the PVC cone surrounds, the cheap models did not feature them. Several featured tweeters mounted across the front of the speaker in various configurations.

[Barry]

EMI made a variety of 13" x 9" elliptical speakers from the fifties into seventies.

Some basic and cheap and others like those just bought by me, much more advanced and quite expensive at the time.

They could sound very fine, others not so much. The alloy framed versions had slightly greater overall dimensions, but the cone measurements were fairly constant. Some had aluminium cone centres, some didn't. Same with the PVC cone surrounds, the cheap models did not feature them. Several featured tweeters mounted across the front of the speaker in various configurations.

A friend of mine had a pair of speakers using an EMI 13" x 9" elliptical with two (2" diameter?) tweeters fitted across the minor axis. The two tweeters were at a slight angle to one another. From memory they didn't sound too bad, but it was nearly fifty years ago!

[mightymonoped]

Still going strong... [emoji4]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180328/3cd83cb9a48966c52877df0070d46b20.jpg


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[walpurgis]

They look in lovely nick for speakers approaching fifty years old.



I built something similar in the seventies.

http://i65.tinypic.com/nz50ea.jpg

[walpurgis]

I bunged the little PL-12D/M75ED deck into the system last night. It makes music!

I sure as hell don't hear a grand's worth (or more) of difference between this and my regular turntable set-up.

http://i67.tinypic.com/30vhr8m.jpg

[Barry]

I bunged the little PL-12D/M75ED deck into the system last night. It makes music!

I sure as hell don't hear a grand's worth (or more) of difference between this and my regular turntable set-up.

http://i67.tinypic.com/30vhr8m.jpg

If you couldn't afford a Linn/Grace/Supex in the early '70s, the Pioneer PL12/Shure M75E was, according to all the hi-fi magazines around at the time, the next best thing to have.

[struth]

wins nothing in the pretty stakes but they do sound decent. rarely use my TT at moment again even tho its sounding great. finding deezer and my cd collection enough tbh

[walpurgis]

I might push my luck and see if an ADC 10E Mk.IV will work in it with a light headshell. You never know. :)

I know MC's function well enough in a PL-12D when a beefy headshell is used.

[mightymonoped]

They look in lovely nick for speakers approaching fifty years old.



I built something similar in the seventies.

http://i65.tinypic.com/nz50ea.jpg

They keep sounding better every time I upgrade another component, I thought I would probably upgrade them first but they're sounding so sweet with valve amplification.

[walpurgis]

Well the vintage 14 x 9 EMI drive units arrived today. They are in great condition. I'd forgotten how big and heavy these are, very hefty, the package must have weighed thirty pounds. These are the longer throw version, just the job. The grey vinyl cone surrounds are unusual, they are usually black. Extended frequency range too 25Hz to around 7kHz if I recall.

Excuse the crap photo. :)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2lxnx1.jpg

[struth]

Big cast cages. Look nice

[walpurgis]

Gonna have to rig up some test boxes. Got quite a few speaker units to try out. I just want an idea of tonality and balance before thinking about crossovers etc. There were no TS parameters when the the vintage items I like were made. I'm thinking maybe 80 cubic litre sealed boxes for the EMI's.

Got some other units on way too.

[struth]

That's big

[walpurgis]

Yup! :)

[paulf-2007]

had an akai amp and tape deck.. amp was better than you would have thought
Still using my akai amp in my office set up, my first amp bought early '80's.

[walpurgis]

More pocket money spent. Amp and speakers on the way.

Akai AM-A202

http://i66.tinypic.com/2yv44df.jpg

Eagle DL67

http://i63.tinypic.com/vfky08.jpg

The amp is just a bit of fun and yes, I have already got a pair of these Eagle speakers. They are the ones with top notch Coral drivers inside. I want two pairs of the bass/mid (full range) drivers.

[walpurgis]

Forearms are itching. Just been stripping a pair of speakers with glass fibre inside. Should have pulled the lagging out first! :rolleyes:

Got some nice drive units though. :)

http://i65.tinypic.com/2a0g5ci.jpg

[walpurgis]

Well that's a turn up.

The old Akai AM-A202 integrated amp I bought just for a bit of fun arrived today. I expected it to sound OK, but it's way better than that. It sounds remarkably good, if anything I suspect it edges the Cambridge P60 I also got recently and that a good'n too. The Akai is doing a great job with the KEF Corellis. Phono stage is decent. It seems punchy and clean, nicely transparent and tight bass too. Result!

I think it dates from around 1980, sliders, graphic equaliser and all.

http://i67.tinypic.com/r1embp.jpg

[struth]

good news... The one I had was a good one too.

[walpurgis]

Very spoilt for choice now. Something may have to go. Probably later than sooner though.:D

[struth]

guessing there is no rush, and why should their be mate. if you need room you can always sell a cartridge ;)

[Macca]

Looks a lot like the Fisher 'Studio Sound' gear from around the same era. They often had a five band eq on them. I wonder if there was ever a connection?

Some of those Jap brands were not that big in reality and I suspect they contracted out a lot of the budget stuff to OEM. Alan Sugar sort of hints at it in his book but he doesn't outright say it.

Brand engineering before they had a name for it.

[walpurgis]

Looks a lot like the Fisher 'Studio Sound' gear from around the same era. They often had a five band eq on them. I wonder if there was ever a connection?

Some Akai gear from about then was made by Mitsubishi I believe, maybe Fisher sourced amps from there too.

[Macca]

When you see all the same switches, symbols, and so forth, and same case size, It would make sense. Very incestuous the 1980s Japanese hi-fi industry.

Mitsubishi better known for this of course (or they were).

https://i.imgur.com/HzyZOck.jpg

[walpurgis]

I've always wondered who made the lovely Harman Kardon amps and receivers from the seventies. They were marked 'made in japan'. Same applies to Marantz. Despite both brands being American.

[alphaGT]

I've always wondered who made the lovely Harman Kardon amps and receivers from the seventies. They were marked 'made in japan'. Same applies to Marantz. Despite both brands being American.

One of the only “bad” systems I’ve ever heard was an 80’s Harman Kardon solid state system. The whole rig was Harman, speaker’s and all. I find that even good companies skimp on these all included systems, I had a Sansui system all matching that was awful.

But it may have just been set up poorly? Or the owner was cranking the knobs wrong? It was so shrill I couldn’t stand more than one or two songs before I had to leave the house! I invited the gentleman over to hear my Adcom/Vandersteen setup of that day, and he flatly refused, and said he already has the best why would he want to hear mine? Last time I ever see him. The urge to tell him it was a steaming pile was strong! But I refrained and took my leave. If he believes his $600 system is the best in the world, who am I to Pop his bubble?

But of course you’re talking about the 70’s! And yes, there was some very good stereo coming from Japan in the day. In the days before integrated circuits.

Russell

[walpurgis]

One of the only “bad” systems I’ve ever heard was an 80’s Harman Kardon solid state system. The whole rig was Harman, speaker’s and all. I find that even good companies skimp on these all included systems, I had a Sansui system all matching that was awful.

By that time Harman Kardon had been sold to a stictly profit motivated conglomerate and the previous high standards had gone out the window. I had referred to their nice seventies gear, the later stuff was poor until the company was re-integrated, but I don't think it ever quite recovered.

[alphaGT]

By that time Harman Kardon had been sold to a stictly profit motivated conglomerate and the previous high standards had gone out the window. I had referred to their nice seventies gear, the later stuff was poor until the company was re-integrated, but I don't think it ever quite recovered.

I had chance to hear a tubed Harman Kardon amp very briefly once. It was most impressive and fluid in the midrange. But it may have been from the late 60’s? This was in the 70’s and it appeared well used then.

Russell

[dantheman91]

If you need to let something go i maybe interested in the Pioneer PL12...:)

[walpurgis]

If you need to let something go i maybe interested in the Pioneer PL12...:)

That's staying mate :).

[walpurgis]

Something has to go. I now have at least ten sets of amplification, but what do I part with? I can only use one at a time, but I like them all. Dilemma!! :)

[walpurgis]

Been pondering. I think this may be on the cards:

http://i65.tinypic.com/286u7p3.jpg

And may hopefully end up looking something like this. Except I have gloss piano lacquer finish in mind.

http://i67.tinypic.com/14dzozs.jpg

Got to flog a couple of bits (large ones) first, to make room.

I have the drivers. High time I made use of them!

http://i64.tinypic.com/5l28ow.jpg

I have matching tweeters too.

[Firebottle]

I have matching tweeters too.

Oooh Ducky :eyebrows:

[Frazeur1]

Nice Geoff, that would be an interesting project no doubt! I will be watching for those!

[struth]

nice looking drivers. where are you putting the tweeters?

[hornucopia]

23747Reminds me of these....
http://frugal-phile.com/tom-zHorn.html
I used a Merrill 4 inch unit, and off-cuts from house renovation/alterations!
Sit, largely unused, in bedroom.

(My 3 inch Merrills went into the Zigmahornets that sit by my desk here.)

[walpurgis]

nice looking drivers. where are you putting the tweeters?

The tweeters will probably go in separate, but matching modules to sit on top. Not sure they'll be needed yet.

[struth]

ah, ok.. little pods maybe .. might just need a supertweeter

[walpurgis]

Response graph.

http://i66.tinypic.com/25f83ya.jpg

[walpurgis]

Just dug out my VTL Deluxe valve pre-amp. Not used it for a while. It's a David Manley design and sounds fabulous. It also has the best integral MM phono stage I've ever heard. I may be moving this on soon. I'll connect it up later and have a listen (if I'm not too hot :rolleyes:).

http://i63.tinypic.com/107l2ty.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/33jtysp.jpg

[Marco]

Nice... Showz da innards!:eyebrows:

Marco.

[Macca]

Looks like a serious bit of kit. No bling.

[walpurgis]

It's a very good pre-amp. I may bung a piccie of the innards on here.

[struth]

Yes ddd-do that. [emoji106]

[Firebottle]

Looks like there was a version with a valve MC stage as well, top left in the pic.

http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/31511-vtl_deluxe_preamp_with_optional_builtin_tube_mc_st age.jpg

[alphaGT]

Been pondering. I think this may be on the cards:

http://i65.tinypic.com/286u7p3.jpg

And may hopefully end up looking something like this. Except I have gloss piano lacquer finish in mind.

http://i67.tinypic.com/14dzozs.jpg

Got to flog a couple of bits (large ones) first, to make room.

I have the drivers. High time I made use of them!

http://i64.tinypic.com/5l28ow.jpg

I have matching tweeters too.

Looks like a nice project! I look forward to your posts as it goes together!

Russell

[walpurgis]

I just dragged some of my gear out of the den and into the living room.

The Tannoy Cheviot Mk.II speakers, Trichord Research Digital Turntable, Monarchy Audio M22C DAC/Pre-amp and the Modern Classic tubes CT15 Class A EL34 monoblocks. Boy does this lot sound good. Bloody amazing!

http://i68.tinypic.com/v2zo2e.jpg

[tapid]

I just dragged some of my gear out of the den and into the living room.

The Tannoy Cheviot Mk.II speakers, Trichord Research Digital Turntable, Monarchy Audio M22C DAC/Pre-amp and the Modern Classic tubes CT15 Class A EL34 monoblocks. Boy does this lot sound good. Bloody amazing!

http://i68.tinypic.com/v2zo2e.jpg. Changing listening room s Geoff or fancied a little exercise ?. Nice Gear.

[Firebottle]

You lucky boy :D

[walpurgis]

. Changing listening room s Geoff or fancied a little exercise ?. Nice Gear.

No. I'm selling off the Tannoys and monoblocks shortly. Plus other gear.

[dantheman91]

No. I'm selling off the Tannoys and monoblocks shortly. Plus other gear.

The Chevvies?

[walpurgis]

The Chevvies?

Probably. After I've sold the monoblocks, I need the Tannoys to demo them.

[dantheman91]

Probably. After I've sold the monoblocks, I need the Tannoys to demo them.

Blimey that will be sad....How come your selling off...?

[walpurgis]

I had an unbranded (Breeze Audio) TPE3116 Class D mini amp sent from China recently. I'd been waiting for a suitable SMPS, ordered separately, which arrived this morning and the whole lot was rigged up for a try-out through the Cheviots. Bloody hell! This little thing sounds amazing!

I thought it might be decent on the strength of this bench test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WkVSr_Hn8

It's got a firm grip on the Tannoys and the sound quality is remarkable, it reminds me of the Monarchy Audio SM-70. It has a similar degree of clarity and transparency. Very lucid and punchy too. I can forgive it having only one input, I only use CD most of the time.

Well chuffed for something I just bought to play around with. Despite the tiny size, it's capable of putting out a max of around fifty watts.

The amp was £17.52 delivered and the power adaptor cost £7.96, I find it hard to believe this kind of sound and power can be bought so cheaply.

Mine is identical to the Breeze Audio badged one in the bench test, but carries no branding.

[walpurgis]

Blimey that will be sad....How come your selling off...?

Too much gear and too much of it is BIG.

[struth]

I had an unbranded (Breeze Audio) TPE3116 Class D mini amp sent from China recently. I'd been waiting for a suitable SMPS, ordered separately, which arrived this morning and the whole lot was rigged up for a try-out through the Cheviots. Bloody hell! This little thing sounds amazing!

I thought it might be decent on the strength of this bench test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WkVSr_Hn8

It's got a firm grip on the Tannoys and the sound quality is remarkable, it reminds me of the Monarchy Audio SM-70. It has a similar degree of clarity and transparency. Very lucid and punchy too. I can forgive it having only one input, I only use CD most of the time.

Well chuffed for something I just bought to play around with. Despite the tiny size, it's capable of putting out a max of around fifty watts.

The amp was £17.52 delivered and the power adaptor cost £7.96, I find it hard to believe this kind of sound and power can be bought so cheaply.

Mine is identical to the Breeze Audio badged one in the bench test, but carries no branding.

is it one of these https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AXMAAOSwqfNXka2f/s-l500.jpg

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Finished-2-50W-Mini-TPA3116-2-0-Power-Amplifier-Class-D-DC18V-DC24V-AMP/272315776164?hash=item3f6748fca4:g:AXMAAOSwqfNXka2 f

had it in my saved list

[walpurgis]

Yup! :)

And this is the SMPS I also bought: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/96W-Universal-Laptop-Power-Supply-110-220v-AC-To-DC-12V-16V-20V-24V-Adapter-ZY/113212786620?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Comes with a shaver socket type mains plug on lead, so I used a regular kettle type. Works just fine. The voltage selection is none too accurate, I measured 19v at the min 12v setting, so I left it on that.

[Barry]

is it one of these https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AXMAAOSwqfNXka2f/s-l500.jpg

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Finished-2-50W-Mini-TPA3116-2-0-Power-Amplifier-Class-D-DC18V-DC24V-AMP/272315776164?hash=item3f6748fca4:g:AXMAAOSwqfNXka2 f

Looks virtually identical to my Amptastic Mini-T. I use it running into a pair of B&W DM2As for AV duties. Bought it a few years ago for about £50; more than you paid for yours.

[Firebottle]

Just ordered a TPA3116 pcb for ............... £3.76, free p+p :eek:

[walpurgis]

New toy just arrived. You don't see these very often. Sounding very good, bags of power too.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2psim2p.jpg

[struth]

looks in great nick geoff. not seen that model

[walpurgis]

looks in great nick geoff. not seen that model

I cheated. That's a stock photo, although mine is in identical condition.

I've only ever seen a couple of these for sale. It's the model between the 606 Mk.II and the 909 and was only on the market for about 18 months. I think many went for export.

[struth]

I cheated. That's a stock photo, although mine is in identical condition.

I've only ever seen a couple of these for sale. It's the model between the 606 Mk.II and the 909 and was only on the market for about 18 months. I think many went for export.

need to take you post down mate :ner: didnt know they did a 707.... looks nice; what speakers do u intend using? heard a rumour your selling the tannoys

[Bigman80]

New toy just arrived. You don't see these very often. Sounding very good, bags of power too.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2psim2p.jpgLooks meaningful.

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[walpurgis]

what speakers do u intend using? heard a rumour your selling the tannoys

It's driving the Cheviots at the moment, which may be sold sooner or later.

I'll have a proper listen to this amp later, bit busy right now. I'll give it an hour warm up first.

I can't get over how heavy this thing is for a little box. It's supposed to weigh 35 pounds, but feels more.

[Bigman80]

It's driving the Cheviots at the moment, which may be sold sooner or later.

I'll have a proper listen to this amp later, bit busy right now. I'll give it an hour warm up first.

I can't get over how heavy this thing is for a little box. It's supposed to weigh 35 pounds, but feels more.Let me know if the Cheviots are on the move. I'd be interested

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[walpurgis]

Pic of actual amp.

http://i63.tinypic.com/bk37o.jpg

[Roy S]

One of the odd couple I haven't tried. Speakon connectors for the speakers?

[walpurgis]

Yes, Speakons. I made adaptors for now and will look into fitting 4mm banana sockets.

http://i68.tinypic.com/ifsbjo.jpg

Well impressed with the amp so far. My Tannoys show up even the slightest hint of grain or grit, but this Quad is silky smooth at the top, nice mids and decent solid bass. What's not to like?

[Macca]

not bland-sounding then?

[Roy S]

Have you tried a 606 Geoff?

[walpurgis]

Have you tried a 606 Geoff?

No. I have heard them years ago. Got a 306 though.

[walpurgis]

not bland-sounding then?

No. I find amps that are a bit two dimensional bland, but this has nice depth & ambience.

[Roy S]

Great little amp the 306.

Never got on with the 606, it was only here a week.

[Barry]

not bland-sounding then?

No, not IMO. The first current dumping designs, the 405-1, could be described as such, but Quad quickly put things right. I have the 520 and a pair of 510 monoblocks. The 606, 707 and 909 were developments of the 500 series.

Speakons are a bit of a PITA and unfortunately have become standard connectors on professional tour-grade audio equipment.

[walpurgis]

Still coming to terms with the Quad 707.

I'm driving the power amp directly from the M22C DAC, which has its own volume control.

This is definitely a very good amp indeed. Best amp I've used? Impossible to say, but I think it's quite probably the best all rounder I've owned. It just doesn't put a foot wrong with the Tannoys and never draws attention to itself, which a neat trick few amps manage.

I was just playing June Tabor's 'A Quiet Eye' and the lucidity of her voice was just perfect. It's an album that can sound slightly bright at the extreme top sometimes, but not here.

I followed with a bit of Shpongle and you need all the depth and ambience possible to get this right. Again, it was perfect.

All in all, a nice result and definitely better than I'd expected. It's a 'fit and forget' amplifier. Likely to be a keeper. Where else can you get this kind of sound quality and huge power for the money? You can't!

[Spectral Morn]

I just dragged some of my gear out of the den and into the living room.

The Tannoy Cheviot Mk.II speakers, Trichord Research Digital Turntable, Monarchy Audio M22C DAC/Pre-amp and the Modern Classic tubes CT15 Class A EL34 monoblocks. Boy does this lot sound good. Bloody amazing!

http://i68.tinypic.com/v2zo2e.jpg

Geoff if you do want to sell those Modern Classic tubes CT15 I might be interested if you can post them. Might be interested in the VTL as well.

[walpurgis]

Ming Da pre-amp sits well on the 707.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2psko79.jpg

[Bigman80]

Ming Da pre-amp sits well on the 707.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2psko79.jpgAbout time you let me try that Ming Da.

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[walpurgis]

About time you let me try that Ming Da

I might, if I was selling. Not at the moment though. Knowing the input impedance of your Krell, I reckon it would be a good match.

[Bigman80]

I might, if I was selling. Not at the moment though. Knowing the input impedance of your Krell, I reckon it would be a good match.Fair enough. I'd like a listen to it. So that's me first dibs on the Cheviots, the modern classics and the Mingda [emoji23][emoji23]

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[walpurgis]

Fair enough. I'd like a listen to it. So that's me first dibs on the Cheviots, the modern classics and the Mingda [emoji23][emoji23]

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Done, £2,500. Collect only! :lol:

[Bigman80]

[emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

On my way
Done, £2,500. Collect only! [emoji38]

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[walpurgis]

Just arrived and still in its shrink wrap, the second TPA3116 Class D amp. I thought I'd try running one for vinyl and one for CD just for fun.

I paid £16.99 for this one including delivery. Make no mistake, these are seriously good sounding little things despite the silly low cost. Think I'll order a second SMPS as well.

http://i67.tinypic.com/fcpcmc.jpg

[walpurgis]

I just heard from my best mate.

He bought one of the aforementioned TPA3116 mini amps after hearing mine in my system.

The amps he already owns are an EAR 861, Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro and Creek Destiny 2. He finds the Destiny 2 superior to the EAR and SM-70 Pro when driving his Tannoys. However, he has declared the TPA3116 unit "embarrassingly good" and the equal of the Creek in his system. Like myself, he has now ordered a second one. They are that impressive!!

If you own moderately sensitive speakers you really deserve to hear what these little things can do and at around £25 including power supply, why not give it a go?

[hornucopia]

Don't tell me that! I paid far more for my Kingrex usb amp! (-:

[southall-1998_mk2]

So what's happening! What are you currently using at this moment, Geoff?

S.

[walpurgis]

So what's happening!

Not a lot to be honest mate. Been a bit bored lately.

The valve monos are up for sale, followed by some other amps, then the Cheviots. I have alternative system plans.

[southall-1998_mk2]

Not a lot to be honest mate. Been a bit bored lately.

The valve monos are up for sale, followed by some other amps, then the Cheviots. I have alternative system plans.

If those Cheviots go up for sale in 6-7 months, I'll be interested by then.

S.

[walpurgis]

If those Cheviots go up for sale in 6-7 months, I'll be interested by then.

S.

It might be around then. It'll be collect only though, the buggers are big and weigh sixty pounds each!

I have at least four speaker build projects that I must get around to starting (that includes another set of Tannoys).

[southall-1998_mk2]

It might be around then. It'll be collect only though, the buggers are big and weigh sixty pounds each!


Exactly, would never trust any courier with those. Wish I was still living in Southall. Fuck Torquay I say sometimes. But what can you do, eh!

S.

[Edward]

Geoff, please may I join the orderly queue for your Cheviots when you get round to moving them on. I'm sure it is already a long queue but still ... :)

[southall-1998_mk2]

Geoff, please may I join the orderly queue for your Cheviots when you get round to moving them on. I'm sure it is already a long queue but still ... :)

You have a much higher chance in getting those Cheviots, as you are based in London.

S.

[Edward]

You have a much higher chance in getting those Cheviots, as you are based in London.

S.


Perhaps Shane, but it will be up to Geoff and I'm sure many people will drive vast distances for the Cheviots.

But having said that - Geoff if you are selling I can come around first thing in the morning to pick them up.

Cash in hand :lol:

But if I recall Geoff you may have already given first refusal to someone else.

[struth]

His valve monos are nice things too.

[southall-1998_mk2]

His valve monos are nice things too.

Idiosyncratic looking things. I've seen them in the flesh when I used to visit Geoff.

S.

[walpurgis]

His valve monos are nice things too.

They're not at all bad. EL34 sound similar to Radford STA25. Very unusual styling.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2e17exk.jpg

[struth]

They're not at all bad. EL34 sound similar to Radford STA25. Very unusual styling.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2e17exk.jpg

Yeah that's the ones. I like those.

[walpurgis]

The mirrors reflect the valve glow with the lights down, looks amazing.

[struth]

What is their output? 30watt

[walpurgis]

15 watts. But they boogie and drive the Tannoys brilliantly.

[struth]

Only 15. Thought they'd be more. Would be enough tho

[walpurgis]

I was bored. So, the latest walpurgis bodge-up!

A pair of empty Rega EL8 cabinets'

http://i63.tinypic.com/16jrbyw.jpg

Some rather nice 'drop-in' five inch full range drivers and black acrylic blanking plate for the tweeter hole..

http://i64.tinypic.com/vfl1ms.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/24o53kl.jpg

Some original type terminal plates.

http://i63.tinypic.com/1so0eb.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/dcfr5c.jpg

Everything fits. Now I just have to wire up and screw everything in.

Just a bit of fun, but it'll work fine.

[struth]

king bodge strikes again :)

[walpurgis]

king bodge strikes again :)

Yup! :D

[walpurgis]

Been playing with the little Rega boxes. They look a bit lost next to the Tannoys, but sound better than I'd expected. Reasonably full bodied, clean and no lack of detail. This is just a temporary rig-up, soon I'll get around to bodging them properly! :)

http://i68.tinypic.com/2l3j1x.jpg

Yes, I know the Tannoy grilles are a bit dusty.

[southall-1998_mk2]

Please don't turn up your volume to 11 tonight!

;)

S.

[walpurgis]

I keep looking at chunky Japanese integrated amps on ebay and getting tempted, then I remember I've got one :).

http://i64.tinypic.com/14t2b75.png

[Firebottle]

Can't hurt to look, MUST RESIST, MUST RESIST :D

[walpurgis]

Can't hurt to look, MUST RESIST, MUST RESIST :D

:lolsign:

[dantheman91]

I have not looked for anything new in 5 days lets hope it continues...

:)

[walpurgis]

I have not looked for anything new in 5 days

:)

That's not like you Dan :).

[dantheman91]

That's not like you Dan :).

I know Geoff but im trying to get out now while i can as far far to much good gear is about not being used i still adore it but i must cut down.

[Lawrence001]

Well done Dan I've been through the bargain hunting cold turkey too, feel better for it but I now throw a few hundred into occasional purchases while I would have thought that frivolous a few years ago. The system is sounding better for it mind you :)

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[walpurgis]

Just trying out my Chinese 5" full range drivers. I bunged them in some spare small Philips reflex boxes for a listen. The sound is way better than anticipated, very transparent and detailed with none of the upper end sizzle I usually hear with twin cone drivers. I reckon a compact 1/4 wave TL box could be the way to go with these.

http://i68.tinypic.com/dmtjci.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/25rd1s0.jpg

[southall-1998_mk2]

Are those going to become your main speakers once the Tannoys go?

S.

[walpurgis]

Are those going to become your main speakers once the Tannoys go?

S.

Probably not, I have rather a lot of speaker options.

[spendorman]

Just trying out my Chinese 5" full range drivers. I bunged them in some spare small Philips reflex boxes for a listen. The sound is way better than anticipated, very transparent and detailed with none of the upper end sizzle I usually hear with twin cone drivers. I reckon a compact 1/4 wave TL box could be the way to go with these.

http://i68.tinypic.com/dmtjci.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/25rd1s0.jpg

Pretty big magnets

[walpurgis]

Pretty big magnets

Nice alloy basket too, ventilated behind rear spider, plus rubber surrounds. All good.

http://i67.tinypic.com/vsibf4.png

[Macca]

How much were they Geoff?

[walpurgis]

How much were they Geoff?

Delivered cost for a pair from China worked out at just over £100.

There's a listing here: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Aucharm-5-full-range-speaker-die-casting-aluminum-basket-white-paper-cone-cup-aluminum-bullet/32242908841.html?spm=a219c.10010108.1000016.1.40ff 4516TL9eFb&isOrigTitle=true

There's a quarter wave horn type enclosure design here if anybody can make sense of it. Not what I'll be using.

http://i66.tinypic.com/69ghz7.jpg

[spendorman]

Delivered cost for a pair from China worked out at just over £100.

There's a listing here: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Aucharm-5-full-range-speaker-die-casting-aluminum-basket-white-paper-cone-cup-aluminum-bullet/32242908841.html?spm=a219c.10010108.1000016.1.40ff 4516TL9eFb&isOrigTitle=true

There's a quarter wave horn type enclosure design here if anybody can make sense of it. Not what I'll be using.

http://i66.tinypic.com/69ghz7.jpg

Looks a bit like the Hi Fi News Paraline design from the 60's, was a great sounding speaker using an 8" Elac unit (8N148 or 8N185). My pair made a terrific sound from a 1 Watt amplifier that I constructed.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=89180

[struth]

if you need a ruler, then its not worth the effort:eyebrows:

[walpurgis]

My inclination is to go with something like the Daline enclosure. Coincidentally, I found the original Daline magazine articles and designs last night whilst going through some old papers.

[walpurgis]

if you need a ruler, then its not worth the effort:eyebrows:

Use a tape measure.

[spendorman]

My inclination is to go with something like the Daline enclosure. Coincidentally, I found the original Daline magazine articles and designs last night whilst going through some old papers.

The Paraline was the predecessor of the Daline. I still have the Dalines (B110, T15 and Coles 401G), unfortunately, I sold the Paralines many decades ago, wish I still had them.

I suspect that the Paralines might be a better fit for your drive units.

[walpurgis]

Found a Paraline sketch.

http://i67.tinypic.com/10ih4p2.png

[spendorman]

Yes, that's it, I used mine with them standing on end, more like a conventional speaker. I've found the Hi Fi News constructional details on my PC, available to anyone who wants them. Also the postscript.

[walpurgis]

It's a quarter wave horn with constricted port. Similar to some of the Frugel designs.

[spendorman]

Here is the postcript, hope that it is readable2512725128

[spendorman]

Found a Paraline sketch.

http://i67.tinypic.com/10ih4p2.png

What is not shown in the sketch is the strategically placed damping material. This is quite important.

[spendorman]

I can upload the constructional detail to Flickr if anyone wants.

[walpurgis]

Hmm. I'll have to sit down with pencil & paper today and work out the cabinet design for the forthcoming speakers.

I have some basic driver parameters to work with and will come up with something suitable. At the moment I'm debating on the choice between a quarter wave constant width acoustic column or tapered transmission line. The acoustic column has some advantages, but is larger.

I'm also wondering whether to go for pre-veneered board or plain and do my own veneering. I'll probably go with the latter. (no, I don't want to use a piano lacquer finish, I can do it, but it takes ages)

[struth]

usually think the pre done stuff can chip and your left with an issue, while doing it at end you'll get a better job

[walpurgis]

usually think the pre done stuff can chip and your left with an issue, while doing it at end you'll get a better job

You're right Grant. I have used both in the past.

[Macca]

You could go with the Capel design.

I wasn't keen on the frugelhorns, I'd avoid that one personally.

[spendorman]

This should be a link to the Hi Fi News Paraline design constructional details.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41679262@N02/albums/72157706136862634

[walpurgis]

You could go with the Capel design

Never heard of that. Link?

[Macca]

I don't have a link and I can't find any reference to it on the internet either which is odd. It was a transmission line using a full range racetrack driver designed by VJ Capel - the plans were in those little books you used to be able to buy from electronics shops. When there were electronics shops.

[walpurgis]

Oooh. What's this part of? I think it has Pass 2.0 written on it somewhere :).

http://i63.tinypic.com/esqlcg.jpg

On its way from the far east. Will have to wait a little while for it to get here.

Has three switchable output levels. Could be handy.

[southall-1998_mk2]

Geoff's second hand Hi-Fi store is coming folks. It's called 'Grumps Hi-Fi' :lol:

S.

[mightymonoped]

I just heard from my best mate.

He bought one of the aforementioned TPA3116 mini amps after hearing mine in my system.

The amps he already owns are an EAR 861, Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro and Creek Destiny 2. He finds the Destiny 2 superior to the EAR and SM-70 Pro when driving his Tannoys. However, he has declared the TPA3116 unit "embarrassingly good" and the equal of the Creek in his system. Like myself, he has now ordered a second one. They are that impressive!!

If you own moderately sensitive speakers you really deserve to hear what these little things can do and at around £25 including power supply, why not give it a go?

I can believe it! It is embarrassingly good. I thought I might try one for myself, so ordered one on the fly for £19.99 inc postage from China.

Didn’t really have a chance to listen until I plonked an old NUC system power supply into it and plugged in the Allo Boss and MS 400’s expecting a fairly ‘meh’ sound.

Even on the short listen (30 mins) to a variety of ‘usual suspects’ tracks, it is astonishing value.

Enough to make me want to explore routing more sources through it.

Wondering what would be the least expensive/disruptive option to connect more than one source, a simple RCA switch box maybe?

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