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walpurgis
05-03-2017, 15:54
Seems like we have converted geoff to a Quad fanboy....:eek: :)
The last Quad amplification I owned was a 22 + II set over thirty years ago.
walpurgis
05-03-2017, 16:02
You know what? This is now sounding very nice indeed. Maybe I'm just getting used to the way it sounds, but it just seems to get better and better.
Playing a bit of Shpongle at the moment and the way it comes across is bloody amazing! :D
walpurgis
07-03-2017, 11:35
A bit of fun? The next walpurgis project. A rather tidy Connoisseur BD1 turntable paired with a Jelco SA-5 arm.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2n850me.jpg
I have a couple of good lift off acrylic lids the right size, so I'll make a plinth based on the lid dimensions in which to house the BD1. There will be a removable armboard included in the design. Only thing is, How to mount an arm for which I have no template? Been down that road a few times. It will be done!
Good little turntables these (despite what a certain beoperson may say about them :D).
Pete Riggle Audio pages are a good read Geoff
walpurgis
07-03-2017, 12:48
Not seen that before. Looks interesting.
walpurgis
07-03-2017, 13:00
I think I'll have a measure up of the lid and TT and rough out a plinth plan tonight. Shouldn't take long. There's a good timber shop about two hundred yards from here who don't charge the earth. I reckon I could have this up and running in a few days. I've even got some nice walnut veneer for the base and some big Sorbothane feet that will do nicely. Plenty of spare decent screened signal cable too.
southall-1998
07-03-2017, 22:51
How are you getting on with the 306?
S.
walpurgis
11-03-2017, 10:26
How are you getting on with the 306?
S.
It's rather nice Shane. At least as good as I'd expected.
southall-1998
11-03-2017, 18:13
Better change your name to Walpurgis_306 then ;)
S.
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 20:19
Oh Dear. What's happening now?
These have just arrived. A pair of totally original and untampered KEF Corellis.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2rysgvc.jpg
I've been after a pair for the last couple of years. Usually, they have been overpriced, a bit rough or too far away (I don't have speakers delivered, like turntables, they get wrecked). These were reasonably priced and only ten minutes away from me.
They sound superb, really transparent and clean. I've always regarded the Corelli as the best sorted of the earlier KEF first and second 'C' series. Better than the 104 variants too. If you are familiar with the LS3/5a sound, well that's more or less what you get here, but with bass!
I'd swear they have never been apart. But, I will disassemble them to renovate the boxes, which have some minor marks. May change the caps too and upgrade the wiring.
At 84db sensitivity they may take a little driving, but then, my Celestion SL600Si were the same and my 15 watt valve monos drove them loud enough.
96db i tink the coreli was. quite liked them myself ...they look a smashing set mate
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 20:27
96db i tink the coreli was. quite liked them myself ...they look a smashing set mate
Quoted as 19 watts for 96db @ 1m in anechoic conditions. According to my working out that's around 84db.
They lok OK, but will look like new very shortly! :)
Not a bad find - I think you mean 84dB for the sensitivity though?
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 20:31
Not a bad find - I think you mean 84dB for the sensitivity though?
Quite right. Dunno why I bunged 94db in. :rolleyes:
Specification: Corelli
System type: Two-way, bookshelf/stand-mount
Enclosure type: Closed box
Size: 470 x 280 x 220 mm (18.5 x 11 x 8.6 inches)
Weight: 9kg (20 lb)
Input Impedance: 8 ohms
Rated maximum power: 50W programme
Amplifier Requirements: 25-50 watts into 8 ohms
System resonance: 58Hz, Q=1.1
Frequency response: 50-30,000Hz +/-3dB
Sensitivity: 19 watts for 96dB at 1m and 400Hz in anechoic conditions
Crossover Frequency: 3500Hz
Finishes: Walnut or Teak
Grille: Mokka brown cloth
System: SP1051
Drive units: B200 bass unit (SP1063), T27 tweeter (SP1032)
Crossover: SP1052
Personally I'd have thought mid 80's myself
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 20:53
Later seventies I think Grant, the Corelli was the replacement for the Chorale. (may have a review somewhere).
Later seventies I think Grant, the Corelli was the replacement fo the Chorale. (may have a review somewhere).
no, I ment sensitivity .. yes, early to mid 70's
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 21:04
no, I ment sensitivity .. yes, early to mid 70's
:D Didn't realise what you meant.
96 dB for 19 watts makes them about 80dB for one 1 watt.
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 21:23
96 dB for 19 watts makes them about 80dB for one 1 watt.
How did you get there Martin?
They quote 96dB from 19 watts at one metre. So deduct 3dB for every halving of power.
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 22:01
They quote 96dB from 19 watts at one metre. So deduct 3dB for every halving of power.
That's exactly what I did. I made it just over a watt = 84db.
Yes you're right. Must have deducted once too much.
walpurgis
12-03-2017, 22:08
Well anyway. They seem to drive alright. Need a little more volume than the Tannoys obviously. Well impressed with the sound quality via the Quad 306. I'll have to hitch them to an SM-70 and see how that pans out. I suspect it'll be very good.
Firebottle
13-03-2017, 07:30
Very nice Geoff, what are you going to do with all your (spare) kit?
:D
walpurgis
13-03-2017, 10:21
Very nice Geoff, what are you going to do with all your (spare) kit?
:D
I'm going to do an Audio Al and keep it all to look at! :D
I'm going to do an Audio Al and keep it all to look at! :D
Youd never catch me doing that;)
walpurgis
13-03-2017, 20:34
Blimey! Been listening for a while and got the system nice and warmed up with these little KEFs. This is sounding seriously good. I'm getting mid depth and transparency on a par with the big Tannoys. No lack of bass or scale either. Top end is much cleaner than I remember from the T27 tweeter, but that may be down to the improved front end and the amplification I'm using these days. Still using the Quad 306 actually. Felt no great need to go back to the Class A stuff yet.
I like the old Coda III from late 70s, are these from the next range up? Or earlier? Coda III were a bit veiled in the mids but good tone and balance.
mid 80's the coda3. 87 db, and decent speaker
walpurgis
16-03-2017, 10:14
Right. That's the drive units out of the Corellis and any chips or knocks on the woodwork filled. They weren't bad really, the worst being spike marks on the bottom, but they'll look like new when I've finished. I'll get the meter out later and check the crossover cap values. Then rub down the cabinets and re-polish.
http://i67.tinypic.com/v5xpv9.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/25us3zk.jpg
Youve been busy. Look forward to the finished job
walpurgis
16-03-2017, 10:27
They weren't as scruffy as the Cheviots were when I first got them and those came up very well.
Fortunately, the grille cloths on these are mint. Saves me a bit of bother. I may add another thin layer of gasket when re-fitting the drivers, seeing as the originals are forty odd years old and probably a bit compressed. I'll leave the old ones on though, as they are intact.
walpurgis
16-03-2017, 10:29
Been looking for a pair of 24" stands for these. Nothing suitable locally yet. I might get lucky at the big boot sales, which are kicking off about now.
Used to have a silver set about that height. Not sure what happened to then actually. Might be still with me. Dont recall giving them away.
walpurgis
16-03-2017, 11:29
Here's a little tip for anybody re-fitting speaker units into their boxes. If you have any that screw directly to the woodwork. Put a drop of PVA glue into the old holes, poke it down and work it around with a cocktail stick or similar, then wipe off any surplus and let it dry. This stabilises the wood at the holes and reduces the risk of them stripping out as you tighten the screws down. As can often happen.
Here's a little tip for anybody re-fitting speaker units into their boxes. If you have any that screw directly to the woodwork. Put a drop of PVA glue into the old holes, poke it down and work it around with a cocktail stick or similar, then wipe off any surplus and let it dry. This stabilises the wood at the holes and reduces the risk of them stripping out as you tighten the screws down. As can often happen.
Good tip that folks...but do wait on it drying or youll never get them out again;)
The PVA has little affinity with metal and will not really adhere.
Better still iMO is my now standard method of using a scriber coated in superglue which readily runs into the wood garin and dries quite quickly due to the high number of hydrogen atoms in the cellulose of the wood.
You then get a perspex thread which is really strong, but you must allow the glue to dry, determined by smelling it, when wet the fumes are really eye watering. Remove external excess with a cotton bud and see the smoke it froms due to the intense reaction.
walpurgis
16-03-2017, 17:10
Yes. I've also used the superglue method. Both ideas work.
as does a good old match glued in .
walpurgis
17-03-2017, 16:08
I got the Corelli baffles and backs resprayed in satin black earlier. May yet give the veneer another fine rub down and a final coat of finish.
http://i63.tinypic.com/e8lpi1.png
Got a dull headache now. Happens every time I use paint that gives off smelly fumes. :rolleyes:
Looks great mate. Smashing. Will be one of the best pairs in country.
walpurgis
17-03-2017, 16:20
Looks great mate. Smashing. Will be one of the best pairs in country.
Hopefully! :)
walpurgis
17-03-2017, 20:46
After letting the black parts dry properly, I re-inspected the veneer finish and decided the satin acrylic had sealed the surface adequately, so I rubbed it down all over gently, first with a red (fine) Scotchbrite pad, then some fine wire wool and then I applied heavy furniture wax. This was followed with a polish once dried and it came up just as I wanted. Fairly lustrous, but not over glossy. Just the job!
http://i63.tinypic.com/t4xmkl.jpg
I've also measured the crossover cap values. They seem all over the place. Not entirely surprising for forty year old electrolytics. I'll order some replacements.
http://i67.tinypic.com/nb5cn4.jpg
They came up good. Lovely finish.
walpurgis
19-03-2017, 20:57
As I was at a loose end, awaiting capacitors for my Corelli renovation, I had a ponder about a pre-amp to go with the Quad 306. Well, this is now on its way to me.
http://i67.tinypic.com/b3ojdz.jpg
Yes. It's a Moth Series 30 pre-amp. But not the usually seen passive unit. This is the very rare and extremely good active pre-amp. It should be an excellent match to the Quad. As soon as it arrives, I'll give it a basic service and respray the wood front panel in black to match the rest of my gear. If you've not heard the Moth amps, well, they are nothing short of excellent! The MM/MC phono stage is a wonderful sounding little device. I had one for years.
It's a Stan Curtis design and here's a bit from him about it:
http://i63.tinypic.com/5tuqdk.png
This is just a bit of fun really. I already have two extremely good pre-amps! :D
Infinitely Baffled
19-03-2017, 22:31
That's a fantastic finish you have got on those cabinets, Geoff. But what happened to the white-ish patches on the woodwork (filler?) evident in the photos in post 282? Why doesn't it show through the new satin acrylic and wax finish?
IB
walpurgis
19-03-2017, 22:38
But what happened to the white-ish patches on the woodwork (filler?) evident in the photos in post 282? Why doesn't it show through the new satin acrylic and wax finish?
IB
Yes it was filler, but most of it was smeared excess. The repaired areas were actually very small. They were coloured to match the adjacent veneer shade. The cabinets were pretty sound when I received them, but I'm fussy! :)
Bigman80
19-03-2017, 23:44
Good work Geoff.
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walpurgis
19-03-2017, 23:52
Good work Geoff
Hopefully, the Corellis will be finished by the end of next week if all the parts arrive.
I'm an old hand at this sort of stuff Oliver. Been doing it for forty years or more, so I should be getting things right by now (most of the time :)).
I have more projects in the pipeline and they'll be appearing here in due course.
Bigman80
20-03-2017, 00:06
Hopefully, the Corellis will be finished by the end of next week if all the parts arrive.
I'm an old hand at this sort of stuff Oliver. Been doing it for forty years or more, so I should be getting things right by now (most of the time :)).
I have more projects in the pipeline and they'll be appearing here in due course.
I really like the satin acrylic finish on them. I'll keep that in mind when I refinish the Mission 710s.
Looking forward to your future projects.
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walpurgis
20-03-2017, 00:10
I normally get the veneer colour how I want it first, then use clear satin acrylic varnish (water based), but this time I chose Beech colour, as it looked about right for what I wanted. A nice pale gold.
walpurgis
20-03-2017, 19:00
Ah well. It would appear that I now own six pairs of loudspeakers (complete ones that is :)).
I just spotted these Wharfedale 504's about to finish on ebay with no bids, so I bunged a cheeky one in and won. Local to me as well. They look in very good condition.
http://i63.tinypic.com/28vdhnc.jpg
The 504 is a bit of a sleeper. Few folk know about these. The sound quality is extremely good. Nice and compact too, so I'll have room for them.
I'll pick them up in the next few days.
more speaks Geoff? you cornering the market again.:) They look decent
walpurgis
20-03-2017, 22:11
more speaks Geoff? you cornering the market again.:) They look decent
Just a bit of fun Grant. They didn't cost much. May pick them up tomorrow :).
Ive seen these before somewhere but not heard them. Hope you like em.
walpurgis
20-03-2017, 22:43
Ive seen these before somewhere but not heard them. Hope you like em.
At least they'll be working. Unlike the KEFs at the moment and the big Tannoys are a pain to haul about and reconnect and disconnect :).
walpurgis
21-03-2017, 19:34
I just spotted these Wharfedale 504's about to finish on ebay
Well that was a bit of a waste of time. Listening carefully it becomes apparent that one tweeter is dead. It's not easy to spot, as the little bass/mid driver extends up a long way.
Never mind. They cost me peanuts and I have a plan for the cabinets.
Thats a shame. Be hard to find a replacement if not impossible I guess. What you got in mind? some full rangers?
walpurgis
21-03-2017, 23:18
Ah. You know me too well Grant! :D
Yes, I have two pairs of these that have been waiting for a home for a long time.
http://i63.tinypic.com/slha1w.jpg
The picture does not do justice. It's a five inch unit with a big screened magnet. Looks like a twin cone B110.
8 ohm driver that was originally used by Canon. Very nice quality and with rubber cone surrounds. Should be easy to adapt the boxes to take them.
(I really need to dig out a better camera. The macro shots from this 12.1 mp Lumix DMC-LF1 are crap!)
Whats their output? was thinking parallel connection for 4 ohm if they are rated well enough. I'm using a Canon PowerShot SX700 HS; very good camera for a great price imv. hard to beat
walpurgis
21-03-2017, 23:32
I have no specs for the drivers, but reckon being relatively modern, maybe 30/40 watt rated. No idea on sensitivity. I'd only use one in each box, as there is too little volume to run a pair.
I have other cameras. I might dig my old Kodak P880 out. That does great macro shots.
walpurgis
22-03-2017, 10:36
Bugger! I just found a scratch on one of my newly refinished KEF cabinets.
http://i66.tinypic.com/x4nmfn.jpg
Fortunately it's not deep, but I'll have to redo it.
Bet it was the dog, he has big claws and seems to leave scratches in the most unlikely places.
Bigman80
22-03-2017, 10:49
Bugger! I just found a scratch on one of my newly refinished KEF cabinets.
http://i66.tinypic.com/x4nmfn.jpg
Fortunately it's not deep, but I'll have to redo it.
Bet it was the dog, he has big claws and seems to leave scratches in the most unlikely places.
That's a pisser.
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walpurgis
22-03-2017, 10:55
That's a pisser
Yeah. I'll redo that side later today.
Can't progress further with this little project until all the caps I ordered arrive.
Bigman80
22-03-2017, 11:12
Ah yes.
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If its not deep, a rewax might cure it geoff
walpurgis
22-03-2017, 12:04
If its not deep, a rewax might cure it geoff
Possibly, but I'll do a rub down and refinish anyway. Won't take long.
Caps have now come in the post, so I might have these back up and running tonight!
Bigman80
22-03-2017, 13:29
Good news. I'll look forward to seeing the recap pics. Need to do the Pioneers !!
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walpurgis
26-03-2017, 11:51
Finally. One Corelli crossover re-capped (sort of). There one old 0.6uF Alcap left. Can't find that value at a sensible price and I'm not forking out £40 for a pair of 'fancy' ones. I've a batch of 0.56uF poly's coming from China. I'll measure them and use the highest valued from the bunch. 0.56 is within tolerance anyway.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2exam9v.jpg
Wasn't well enough during the week to do anything at all, but I'm getting back on form now (I think :rolleyes:).
I'll do the other crossover later, give the cabs a final polish and re-install the drivers. When the 0.56uF caps arrive, I'll have the crossovers out again and fit those and look at maybe 'upgrading' the internal wiring. All the caps have been given a small blob of clear silicone sealant underneath to stop any buzzing against the PCB. The PCB will be given a support pad underneath at the centre. It's just held in place by the four corners at the moment.
(still getting crap resolution from this Lumix DMC-LF1 camera. It's set at 12.1mp (fine) and on macro)
Bigman80
26-03-2017, 11:58
Looks very tidy Geoff. Gonna go for alcap when i do mine.
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walpurgis
26-03-2017, 13:46
Looks very tidy Geoff. Gonna go for alcap when i do mine.
Alcaps are a perfectly decent and reasonably priced option.
Bigman80
26-03-2017, 16:23
Alcaps are a perfectly decent and reasonably priced option.
Agreed
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walpurgis
26-03-2017, 20:13
Just won these stands for a tenner from ebay. Perfect for the Corellis at 24" tall and local too.
http://i67.tinypic.com/iwu9ec.jpg
Can't fault that. Got the little pads on top too.
walpurgis
26-03-2017, 21:42
Can't fault that. Got the little pads on top too.
The bloke's been in touch. I should pick them up in a couple of days.
Looks like you can fill the columns with sand, hard to tell but they appear to be open at the top?
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walpurgis
26-03-2017, 22:40
Looks like you can fill the columns with sand, hard to tell but they appear to be open at the top?
Probably.
I've never used sand in stands though. I opt for decorative shingle or graded stone as a rule. The stone pieces interlock mechanically rendering whatever they are contained in pretty inert.
Probably.
I've never used sand in stands though. I opt for decorative shingle or graded stone as a rule. The stone pieces interlock mechanically rendering whatever they are contained in pretty inert.
I've never heard of that, but it sounds like a very good idea. I've heard of using lead shot, but that's almost too heavy, and far more expensive than sand or graded stone. My cousin had some small speakers on stands, and I pointed out the tops were open to fill them. He was perplexed, why would you? But I piqued it curiosity and he filled them with dry sand and was amazed at the better bass. In fact, while I had heard of filling stands, I really was not prepared for the difference it made!
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The use of sand goes back a long way to the Wharfdale man and others in the 40s and 50s, it is well established.
My recently purchased ADAMs have sand between two cabinet walls, this idea also from that earlier period.
The sand grains also lock into each other; think of the feeling and sound of sand as your foot rolls into it on the beach and it 'crunches' making a sound like snow does, but from the adhesive and abrasive friction of the grains interlocking.
walpurgis
27-03-2017, 22:15
Just finished the Corellis. I'm amazed at how good these are. I'll bung some photos on tomorrow.
Bigman80
27-03-2017, 22:20
Just finished the Corellis. I'm amazed at how good these are. I'll bung some photos on tomorrow.
Oooooooo. Need pictures !!! Lol.
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walpurgis
28-03-2017, 10:01
Corelli photos. Crap quality images as usual. This time from the Fuji camera.
http://i67.tinypic.com/12500lv.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/20pufsg.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2m81vfs.jpg
Yes. That is a Tannoy they're stood on and that's a bigger Tannoy behind them.
Look very good Geoff Whats the bass response like?
walpurgis
28-03-2017, 10:13
Whats the bass response like?
The bass is tight and solid Grant. Pretty deep for a compact sealed cabinet too.
I'll probably collect the stands tonight. Set them up and then I'll wire my Class A SS power amp back in and give these a good go.
You get the amp fixed? Was it the bridge rec?
walpurgis
28-03-2017, 10:20
You get the amp fixed? Was it the bridge rec?
Not yet Grant. I'll do it when I can spare the money.
I do reckon it's one of the rectifiers shorted.
walpurgis
28-03-2017, 21:05
Just reaquainting myself with the KEFs since their recap. I'm certain there is an improvement. The depth and clarity, which were good anyway seem enhanced. It's an extremely transparent and clean sound. The famous bextrene cone 'quack' that afflicted some KEF speakers does not seem evident here. Some ridiculusly deep sounding clean bass coming from these little boxes.
http://i67.tinypic.com/2yyv828.jpg
walpurgis
06-04-2017, 20:53
Tonight's project. I'm rebuilding the motor suspension on a Connoisseur BD2 and giving it a bit of a clean and re-lube.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vj8yte.jpg
looks like its in need of mouth to mouth Geoff. If anyone can, it'll be you tho:)
walpurgis
06-04-2017, 21:54
Job done. Did it my usual way. Thin neoprene 'O' ring cut and tied instead of the standard elastic bands. The knots have been glued to stop them undoing.
I've done loads of these the same way. It works!
http://i63.tinypic.com/szdfmp.jpg
Next. Refit the motor, clean and lube main bearing, clean top plate, fit new belt and make sure everything works as it should. Then refinish the plinth/base, fit a cartridge and set the arm up, clean the clear lid and job's a good'n.
walpurgis
08-04-2017, 22:19
Still fettling the BD2. Just patched up all the small chips and knocks in the plinth with filler.
It's not for me. I'm giving it to a mate. Well actually, he gave it to me 'cos he didn't know how to sort it, but I'm doing it up and returning it. He likes these.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2uiix07.jpg
walpurgis
12-04-2017, 21:51
One fully restored and properly functional Connoisseur BD2.
http://i67.tinypic.com/nd7jg5.jpg
Wheow! Thats beautiful!
Excellent work on this one Geoff, looks like it just came out of the shop!
Do these sound any good? Never heard one meself.
Bigman80
13-04-2017, 05:41
Nicely done geoff.
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Wheow! Thats beautiful!
Excellent work on this one Geoff, looks like it just came out of the shop!
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+1
walpurgis
13-04-2017, 09:04
Do these sound any good? Never heard one meself.
The sound is surprisingly presentable. However, I'm not a fan of the SAU2 arm on the BD2. It has design issues.
The best option is the BD1 turntable, that comes without arm. Then you can mount one of your own choice.
Like this:
http://i64.tinypic.com/24ev0br.jpg
It's one I built some years ago. Note the 'O' ring suspension :). It worked extremely well with the Mission 774. I sold it though.
I have a new project in hand. This:
http://i66.tinypic.com/2czyp7k.jpg
BD1 & Jelco SA-5 arm. Could be good together.
rigger67
13-04-2017, 09:04
Love those switches !
They look like you raided Action Man's kitchen and nicked his cooking pots and turned 'em upside down :D
walpurgis
13-04-2017, 10:47
There's a tidy BD1 just listed on ebay if anybody is interested. These little decks punch way above their weight.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172622148659?ul_noapp=true
walpurgis
13-04-2017, 10:56
Spec is here:
http://i64.tinypic.com/258wj76.png
walpurgis
03-05-2017, 17:55
Found this Little Bear MC2 passive pre-amp waiting for me on my return from hols.
http://i67.tinypic.com/hwdc0y.jpg
I figured it was worth a go at a mere £26.95 from ebay, free post too from China: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MC2-Fully-Balanced-Passive-Preamplifier-Pre-Amp-XLR-RCA-Volume-Controller-UK-/292091442510?
I thought it might be suitable for use with the Quad 306 power amp. It is. I have it wired up and it sounds very good. Bargain!
It comes with RCA and balanced inputs and outputs.
Does it support fully balanced connections? I would have thought to do that it needs to have four potentiometers - I can only see two, but since the PCB is double sided, I could be mistaken.
walpurgis
04-05-2017, 21:12
Does it support fully balanced connections? I would have thought to do that it needs to have four potentiometers - I can only see two, but since the PCB is double sided, I could be mistaken.
Not properly I think Barry. Not checked the PCB, but I suspect the 'balanced' connections are just paralled. They can be selected via switching.
walpurgis
06-05-2017, 22:21
As I was at a loose end, awaiting capacitors for my Corelli renovation, I had a ponder about a pre-amp to go with the Quad 306. Well, this is now on its way to me.
http://i67.tinypic.com/b3ojdz.jpg
Yes. It's a Moth Series 30 pre-amp. But not the usually seen passive unit. This is the very rare and extremely good active pre-amp. It should be an excellent match to the Quad. As soon as it arrives, I'll give it a basic service and respray the wood front panel in black to match the rest of my gear. If you've not heard the Moth amps, well, they are nothing short of excellent! The MM/MC phono stage is a wonderful sounding little device. I had one for years.
It's a Stan Curtis design and here's a bit from him about it:
http://i63.tinypic.com/5tuqdk.png
This is just a bit of fun really. I already have two extremely good pre-amps! :D
This nice little pre-amp has too high an initial output to be a comfortable match to the Quad 306. I've checked the volume pot and it's a 10k item. I'll bung a 100k pot in and see if that makes the volume roll-in a bit more user friendly.
walpurgis
06-05-2017, 22:32
Got four pre-amps now. A VTL Deluxe I've had for many years, a very sumptuous sounding valve job, with an amazingly good MM phono stage (not tried it with the Quad 306 yet). Then there's the Moth Series 30 mentioned in the last post. Next, the recently purchased and dirt cheap Little Bear MC2 passive, which works just fine with the Quad. Lastly and by far the best sounding, the MingDa MC-9 TVC unit, which has amazing sound quality.
southall-1998
06-05-2017, 22:49
The big number of times I've met that MingDa :D
S.
walpurgis
06-05-2017, 22:57
The big number of times I've met that MingDa :D
S.
Get one?
southall-1998
06-05-2017, 23:00
Get one?
Nope. Just looking back, at the times when I heard your example.
S.
walpurgis
07-06-2017, 21:59
This nice little pre-amp has too high an initial output to be a comfortable match to the Quad 306. I've checked the volume pot and it's a 10k item. I'll bung a 100k pot in and see if that makes the volume roll-in a bit more user friendly.
http://i68.tinypic.com/1sxerm.jpg
Well, I've just put this Moth Series 30 pre-amp back together.
http://i65.tinypic.com/14cqkht.jpg
The case and front panel have been resprayed black and I've changed the volume pot from 10k to 100k in the hope of making it slightly more progressive. It looks a sight better with the black front, as opposed to the light wood colour it had before.
This is a really nice sounding little unit, very clear and detailed. Funny thing is it sounded a bit coarse on switch on, but smoothed out over the first quarter of an hour.
One annoying thing is the replacement pot having an imbalance. Left is quieter than right. Can't have that. It'll have to be changed (again :rolleyes:).
.
Might not be the pot but just being shown up with the. 100k
walpurgis
08-06-2017, 08:09
I have other pots to try. We'll see. :)
southall-1998
08-06-2017, 09:56
I have other pots to try. We'll see. :)
You junkie!! :D
S.
walpurgis
08-06-2017, 09:58
You junkie!! :D
S.
:rolleyes:
:)
walpurgis
17-06-2017, 11:04
KEF Corellis.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2d92qkj.jpg
Why do I keep using them when I've got a beautiful pair of big Tannoys stood right behind them? Not sure really. The Tannoys sound bloody marvellous, but there's something about the Corellis. They're very musical, detailed and transparent. No lack of body either. It's just a nice listen. :)
southall-1998
17-06-2017, 11:10
Looking good, Geoff!
S.
A different sort of goodness. A change is as good as a bit of sex:lol:
walpurgis
19-06-2017, 20:18
Power amps everywhere.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2mrf7ky.jpg
Top right in the rack, Modern Classic Tubes CT15 Class A EL34 monoblocks. Below, Quad 306, sitting on Monarchy Audio SM-70 on right and on left, Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro.
Not a bad one there. Just listening to the creamy smooth SM-70 Pro at the moment. Boy does this thing let the speakers image, almost holographic! :eek:
It's just had a new power transformer, courtesy of Alan (Firebottle) who's done a great job. Cheers mate!! So glad to get it back.
so it was the TX that went on it..... good news its fixed, as I know you like them
walpurgis
19-06-2017, 20:57
so it was the TX that went on it..... good news its fixed, as I know you like them
Yeah. Very glad it's sorted. It may not be quite as lucid as the basic SM-70, but the Pro has a slightly warmer character that really works well with the Tannoys.
got a sub coming for the speakers... will also be able to be used with the full range too if I wish.. has both high and low level plus adjustable slope etc. looks in decent nick. Take it if used on high level you just put it in parallel. it has land r speaker terminals.. plus a low level coax
walpurgis
19-06-2017, 21:12
Sounds interesting. Any particular model?
its a Canton. Ive had their stuff before and its pretty good(German)
walpurgis
19-06-2017, 21:20
Yes. I know Canton. Should be decent.
walpurgis
13-07-2017, 10:18
Bought this last night. Not entirely sure why, but I've alway liked them.
http://i63.tinypic.com/o597qf.jpg
PL-12D! It was cheap and it's not had much use, the silver lettering around the arm lift lever wears away if they've had regular use. There's no lid and the belt, lateral balance weight and headshell are missing. Not a problem. A regular tweak was to remove the weight anyway and replace the standard headshell with something beefier. I have spare belts.
Who knows? After a few mods, it could become my main TT, seeing as I hardly play records these days.
looks a tidy example. you do know your supposed to be reducing not increasing? ;)
walpurgis
13-07-2017, 10:23
looks a tidy example. you do know your supposed to be reducing not increasing? ;)
Much stuff to go soon. I need the dosh! :)
I just hope the PL-12D arrives intact. Checked the seller's feedback and he is praised for packing well. Should be OK.
walpurgis
18-07-2017, 14:32
My cheapo PL-12D arrived safely. As I suspected, it is definitely a low usage example. A little heftier than I recall too. Everything works like new and it is very quiet.
Looking forward to playing with this, after I've given it a fettle.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2r639m1.jpg
Another crap photo from a 12.1mp Lumix.
My ten year old Fujifilm E900 takes way better pictures. Better exposed and sharper!
walpurgis
18-07-2017, 14:40
Was it cheap
£40
walpurgis
18-07-2017, 14:54
It will be receiving a few subtle tweaks. I'll show what's done here.
brian2957
18-07-2017, 15:00
That looks like a bit of a bargain Geoff . I sold my GL75 and I've been looking for something to play my albums on ever since . Something like this would have fitted the bill . Nice find :)
walpurgis
18-07-2017, 15:05
I've always liked these Brian. They're a long way from being the ultimate turntable, but they are an honest little deck that plays music and lasts forever.
brian2957
18-07-2017, 15:18
Yup agreed Geoff . I'm not looking for the '' ultimate '' in resolution , just something that works and plays music :)
Firebottle
18-07-2017, 15:41
I sold my GL75 ....
How come Brian? I thought you liked it.
brian2957
18-07-2017, 16:03
Alan , you have PM . Can you clear your inbox please .
Firebottle
18-07-2017, 16:28
I've made space, first time I've overdosed :rolleyes:
walpurgis
20-07-2017, 16:07
Cor. I'd forgotten how much heat my Monarchy Audio power amp chucks out. I had the windows shut as usual for listening and the amp was on about five hours. The room ended up baking! You could have fried an egg on the amp, it was that hot.
Changed over to the Quad 306 an hour ago. That's barely warm.
walpurgis
20-07-2017, 16:56
Borrowed a Promitheus TVC pre-amp to try in my system.
http://i64.tinypic.com/9897ac.jpg
It sounds bloody marvellous driving the Quad 306, a really good match. Not tried it with the Class A or valve power amps yet. That should be interesting.
had one of those.. very good tvc's... build quality maybe isnt top notch but not bad for money.
southall-1998
20-07-2017, 19:48
Borrowed a Promitheus TVC pre-amp to try in my system.
http://i64.tinypic.com/9897ac.jpg
It sounds bloody marvellous driving the Quad 306, a really good match. Not tried it with the Class A or valve power amps yet. That should be interesting.
Is that the basic model?
S.
walpurgis
20-07-2017, 19:50
I believe it is Shane.
southall-1998
20-07-2017, 20:07
I believe it is Shane.
How old is your example? Sorry for the silly question!
On their site, their single ended version is USD 420 new.
S.
walpurgis
20-07-2017, 20:20
How old is your example?
S.
No idea. It's not mine.
southall-1998
20-07-2017, 20:22
Does it compete well against the Mingda?
S.
walpurgis
20-07-2017, 20:27
Does it compete well against the Mingda?
S.
Not made the comparison yet.
southall-1998
20-07-2017, 20:29
:spank: Get on with it!!
:D
S.
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 09:03
Picked up another cheap 'spares only' PL-12D.
It arrived yesterday. Looked pretty good, but would not rotate. The main bearing was completely seized. I took the bearing out and could not budge the shaft, it felt as though it was 'superglued' in place. Anyway, I soaked it overnight in cellulose thinners and voila! It spins. Now perfectly free and no wear in it. Very nice. I'll give it a clean and lube and bung it back in. Everything else on the TT is working fine and in tidy nick.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2e2hyyt.jpg
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 09:15
There will be those who think to themselves 'why the hell is he fucking about with that old thing?'
There is a reason. I play records very infrequently now, so basically, I'm aiming to have one simple and reliable deck for the occasional spin of a record. I don't want to have much money invested in this either, but functionality and reliability are important. The PL-12D fits the criteria! They have bullet proof dependabilty and sound better than most would credit. There are a few tweaks that can be made to help things too.
have you not got all that with the toshiba and 774??
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 15:53
Yes...............and no! :D
Not sure where all this will be going, it's a bit of fun, but I likely will be radicalising my record playing side of things.
ah i see,i may go the same route,i have found a rek o kut turntable fitted with an acos lustre tonearm which would make a good project.
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 16:58
ah i see,i may go the same route,i have found a rek o kut turntable fitted with an acos lustre tonearm which would make a good project.
But can you find Rek-o-Kut bits?
ive not looked that much geoff,not much on the net,the poor mans 301 i gather.
I've often though the name Rek-O-Kut was chosen because that what it would do to your records.
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 18:01
ive not looked that much geoff,not much on the net,the poor mans 301 i gather.
I remember the make, but know little about them.
If I was looking for a vintage American TT, I'd be keeping an eye out for an Empire of some sort I think.
http://i65.tinypic.com/jrg113.jpg
Now that's better, despite the vulgar 'bling', the Empire Troubadour had a superb 1" diameter bearing.
ive not looked that much geoff,not much on the net,the poor mans 301 i gather.
Have you tried Audiokarma? I think there are a few Rek-o-Kut nut cases on there, or used to be. Some of their models are apparently quite good.
its only because its in an auction near me,to be honest im perfectly happy with my rock tt,its not going to better it so maybe the moneys better off being saved or used for vinyl.
i still may put a cheeky bid in though :)
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 18:24
Spend the dosh on beer old chap! :D
its only because its in an auction near me,to be honest im perfectly happy with my rock tt,its not going to better it so maybe the moneys better off being saved or used for vinyl.
i still may put a cheeky bid in though :)
Yeah, don't pay too much then you can always move it on for the same money. Free fun. I'd be interested in hearing one, they have a good rep in some circles.
walpurgis
25-07-2017, 18:38
Connoisseur BD1's are good fun if you want something to play with. The sound quality is waaay better than their looks would have you believe. They're cheap, dead easy to work on and parts are not hard to find.
This is one of my spare ones.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2507ddd.jpg
Here's the last one I built a base for.
http://i67.tinypic.com/14ioqv4.jpg
I expect Adam (Beobloke) will be along in a mnute to say something rude about them. :D
Connoisseur BD1's are good fun if you want something to play with. The sound quality is waaay better than their looks would have you believe. They're cheap, dead easy to work on and parts are not hard to find.
This is one of my spare ones.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2507ddd.jpg
Here's the last one I built a base for.
http://i67.tinypic.com/14ioqv4.jpg
I expect Adam (Beobloke) will be along in a mnute to say something rude about them. :D Very nice Geoff !!
Is that your skull cap on the turntable ??:eek:
Saw a nice vintage 12" Connoisseur TT in hammer-finsh grey at a boot sale today. :)
Saw a nice vintage 12" Connoisseur TT in hammer-finish grey at a boot sale today. :)
It look very similar to this (but it didn't have an arm)
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Xs6DChKRscrBuH0Jnpi5BgEsC7&pid=15.1&H=99&W=160&P=0
walpurgis
02-08-2017, 10:01
Still playing with the PL-12D.
Click on image.
https://s4.postimg.org/9756slkg9/P1030275.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/9756slkg9/)
I have two now actually. Both Mk.I PL-12D's and both bought cheap. Funny thing is, the first one sounded crap, but the second example sounds much better. Blowed if I know why. I've serviced both and they are identical.
I tried a Grado F1+ cartridge first, which I know from using it in my main deck, is a nice sounding thing, but in the Pioneer it sounds coarse and unrefined. I resorted to a Shure M75ED Type 2, which I didn't expect to sound as good, but it is way better. Smooth, revealing and clean (it came free with the second PL-12D and looks new).
Next surprise (or maybe not :)) was swapping mats about. I first tried using the standard mat, which was passable. Then a felt mat that sounded awful (not unexpectedly). Next a heavyweight rubber mat with fake suede finish. This beefed up the sound, tightened it and gave better focus. A heavier mat is an old dodge with these TT's.
I fitted some Van Damme cabling from the deck to the phono stage, but had one channel dropping out, despite the meter reading good continuity. Dodgy plug I think. I'll re-do that.
I did notice some slight hum with the Grado. They are a bit prone to it with TT's that have steel top plates (as can Deccas be too).
odd as you say. maybe wiring somewhere?
walpurgis
02-08-2017, 10:28
odd as you say. maybe wiring somewhere?
Dunno. A bit of delving should throw some light on things. I'll have another tinker later.
Quite chuffed with the M75ED 2. As I say it came with the second TT and is perfect. The Shures sell for more than I paid for the whole lot.
dantheman91
03-08-2017, 16:22
Dunno. A bit of delving should throw some light on things. I'll have another tinker later.
Quite chuffed with the M75ED 2. As I say it came with the second TT and is perfect. The Shures sell for more than I paid for the whole lot.
Just put my Rotel RP 1500 on M75ED-2 & M44E both look like new never been used.
The RP1500 has just gone out with a puff of smoke...:scratch::steam:
Well can only be the motor, that's the only thing on a TT that has the magic smoke in it.
dantheman91
03-08-2017, 16:56
[QUOTE=Macca;886035]Well can only be the motor, that's the only thing on a TT that has the magic smoke in it.[/QUOTE
Cheers Martin A shame a really nice unit thats still boxed and was never used this is the second time i have used it then this...:(
Thanks
Dan
Belt drive TT Motors are almost always not expensive. You can still recover it if you want to.
walpurgis
03-08-2017, 17:36
That's a shame Dan. Keep an eye on TT motors on ebay. You may see one that will fit. I bet it was an OEM job that was used by more than one maker.
walpurgis
09-08-2017, 10:05
How the hell does one lose a pair of fairly hefty speaker cables?
I've been looking all over the place for my rather nice Merlin CR4 cables and can't find them. Probably in a box somewhere. Maybe they'll turn up.
I hope so. I was planning to sell them on.
walpurgis
18-08-2017, 09:36
Just bought this Chinese valve buffer/pre-amp for a bit of fun. Looks quite neat. Could be complete garbage though :D.
http://i63.tinypic.com/14niiv8.png
Spec here. Click on it.
https://s17.postimg.org/jvh6x4vhn/Screen_Shot_08-18-17_at_10.21_AM.png (https://postimg.org/image/jvh6x4vhn/)
I put an offer of £18 in and it was accepted. The unit requires a 12v DC power supply and I have a couple of decent spare ones.
Now I have to wait a few weeks for it to arrive :).
Landloper
18-08-2017, 10:03
Thanks, Geoff! Looks the same as the 'FX Audio Tube 01 [= '01 Tube' imported and given a logo and price rise? The tubes are the same too, 6j1s]
As it happens I was wondering about trying out a tube buffer the other day - your post reminded me so I'm following suit. I thought I'd place it after the analogue out of a Behringer UCA 202 USB audio interface [£15} and before an as yet unknown HPA or amp in an experiment in making a very cheap passable set up.
walpurgis
18-08-2017, 10:10
There are a number of far east sellers on ebay offering these. Prices vary. Some come with what are alleged to be UK power supplies, worth checking voltages and pins though.
Jez makes a good one apparently as well.. he made one for a member who was happy with it
Arkless Electronics
18-08-2017, 11:26
Not for anywhere near that price I don't!! Mines £150.
£18 for that Chinese one? It would be around £400 if you bought it from me. The parts would cost me (including the case and PSU) around £70-£100 as I would be using good quality, branded western parts... The rest the labour to hand build it which would take 10+ hours. I also wouldn't put a crude and hardly filtered SMPS in the middle of the board! Expect it to give nearly as much output from the SMPS @ 30KHz or more as it does signal!!
Not for anywhere near that price I don't!! Mines £150.
£18 for that Chinese one? It would be around £400 if you bought it from me. The parts would cost me (including the case and PSU) around £70-£100 as I would be using good quality, branded western parts... The rest the labour to hand build it which would take 10+ hours. I also wouldn't put a crude and hardly filtered SMPS in the middle of the board! Expect it to give nearly as much output from the SMPS @ 30KHz or more as it does signal!!
still cheap at 150 for a good buffer
southall-1998
18-08-2017, 11:57
Not for anywhere near that price I don't!! Mines £150.
£18 for that Chinese one? It would be around £400 if you bought it from me. The parts would cost me (including the case and PSU) around £70-£100 as I would be using good quality, branded western parts... The rest the labour to hand build it which would take 10+ hours. I also wouldn't put a crude and hardly filtered SMPS in the middle of the board! Expect it to give nearly as much output from the SMPS @ 30KHz or more as it does signal!!
:lol:
S.
walpurgis
18-08-2017, 13:26
Well if you're all gonna take the piss. Bollox!............Hang on, Double Bollox!! So there!!! :ner:
sorry, didnt realise it was your thread mate :doh:
walpurgis
18-08-2017, 13:54
sorry, didnt realise it was your thread mate :doh:
I was only kidding! :)
i know but i should have looked. silly billy.(thats my middle name actually....the billy bit;) )
walpurgis
01-09-2017, 21:16
Well this little gizmo is quite a surprise. The 6j1 valve buffer/pre-amp I'd ordered. The sound quality is remarkably good to be honest, very clear and open, no lack of body either. Gain is a bit on the high side for the Quad power amp it's connected to, but it should be spot on with the Monarchy Audio, which I have yet to try. I wasn't expecting much at the meagre £18 it cost sent from China. It even came with a UK power supply, which wasn't quoted as an included item.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2zdynnp.jpg
Bigman80
01-09-2017, 21:45
Well this little gizmo is quite a surprise. The 6j1 valve buffer/pre-amp I'd ordered. The sound quality is remarkably good to be honest, very clear and open, no lack of body either. Gain is a bit on the high side for the Quad power amp it's connected to, but it should be spot on with the Monarchy Audio, which I have yet to try. I wasn't expecting much at the meagre £18 it cost sent from China. It even came with a UK power supply, which wasn't quoted as an included item.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2zdynnp.jpgHoly christmas Geoff, you haven't put a buffer in the signal path!!!!!!!!! Lol [emoji6]
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
walpurgis
01-09-2017, 21:53
Holy christmas Geoff, you haven't put a buffer in the signal path!!!!!!!!! Lol [emoji6]
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Not if I call it a pre-amp! :D
Bigman80
01-09-2017, 22:00
Lmfao.
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walpurgis
28-09-2017, 20:40
My Moth Series 30 pre-amp had a channel level imbalance which was pretty annoying at low levels, so I've bunged a new volume pot in. Also, being of too high an output for comfortable use with the Quad 306, I thought I'd up the resistance value of the pot too. It's now got a 500kohm item in it instead of the (non-original) 50kohm job and now the volume is far more controllable. Good result.
I've also cut the cable from the low voltage output side of the power supply and fitted a high quality four pin connector. That saves all the aggro of feeding the captive power supply and lead through racks or shelves. Much better.
Tell you what, this is a damn good sounding little pre-amp. It has a clean full bodied character and the bass is very tight. Extremely transparent too. Stan Curtis design, nice. I had a Moth Series 30 phono stage a while ago and that was outstanding too.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2u4k4tl.jpg
walpurgis
29-09-2017, 09:07
Just out of nostalgia, I want an Olson AM-395 integrated amplifier. Mega rare now, always were scarce.
http://i68.tinypic.com/140knxc.jpg
I bought one circa 1971, after a disastrous experience with an Amstrad 8000 Mk.II (it was early days in Hi-Fi for me :rolleyes:). The difference was amazing. The little Olson actually made music and drove my equally impressive Eagle FR-65 full range drivers very nicely (the Eagles were actually rebadged Coral drivers and very nice, I still have a pair). The Olson was definitely my first Hi-Fi amp!
not seen that one before. Certainly looks "of its time"
walpurgis
29-09-2017, 09:21
not seen that one before. Certainly looks "of its time"
They were marketed in the UK by Tandy. Probably the equivalent of a Teleton SAQ-203.
It stayed until I bought a new Ferrograph F307 (another disaster! :rolleyes:).
That was very rapidly replaced by a Rotel RA-611. Bliss! :)
http://i64.tinypic.com/65r0nb.jpg
walpurgis
29-09-2017, 20:55
As I mentioned elsewhere today. I was going to try my Modern Tube Classics EL34 monoblocks with the Moth Series 30 pre-amp I picked up not long ago, as I suspected this might be a good match. They've been on for a couple of hours driving my renovated KEF Corelli speakers and sounding quite excellent. Very transparent combination this little lot. There's great depth and every distant tiny detail in the mix can be picked out clearly. Certainly no shortage of wellie either. Most impressed and it's not even the main system :).
http://i64.tinypic.com/nnlbuu.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/jhfr06.jpg http://i65.tinypic.com/wbs2rn.jpg
walpurgis
07-10-2017, 08:43
Couple of system photos from years ago.
First one, probably around 1995.
http://i67.tinypic.com/ne6tj9.jpg
Second one, probably around 2000.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ps4p03.jpg
walpurgis
07-10-2017, 08:54
Still got any of it?
Only the X10-D in the second picture.
lol, I thought that was an oversized volume control... it is early :eyebrows:
walpurgis
07-10-2017, 09:19
lol, I thought that was an oversized volume control... it is early :eyebrows:
:)
I should have kept the Stereo 20 in the second picture. It was a good one. I'd replaced the caps, put a base on that matched the metalwork and fitted a mains switch on the front. It sounded very nice.
dantheman91
07-10-2017, 19:16
Lovely nostalgia...Those were they days do i see a NAD...:) well i never...
Came face to face with Tannoy buckinghams this week fab did i tell you they guy bought them for £500...:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: weather true is a different sotrey but had a couple of bits from him no reason to disbelieve...
walpurgis
10-10-2017, 10:09
Hmm. I now have seven pre-amps. Some serious evaluation is going to be needed, to decide what stays and what goes.
The line up is: A tiny FX Audio valve pre-amp from China, a Little Bear passive, a VTL Deluxe valve pre-amp (amazing phono stage), a Tisbury Audio passive, a Moth Series 30 solid state pre-amp (very nice sounding), a Promitheus TVC and lastly a MingDa MC-9 TVC (the TVC's are going nowhere :)).
Each will of course need to be tried with each of my power amps. Which are: Quad 306 (very sweet), Monarchy Audio SM-70, Monarchy Audio SM-70 Pro and finally, a pair of Modern Classic Tubes EL34 valve monos.
Could be a busy evening.
oh, err, keep the tvc's, the moth and the VTL.
walpurgis
10-10-2017, 18:30
Also got one of these gorgeous Japanese integrateds in the collection. Sounds amazing! The MC input sounds as good as my Sugden phono stage.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=bg&u=http://www.hifi-pictures.net/amplifiers-home/JVC%2520AX-A441/JVC%2520AX-A441.htm&prev=search
This is mega rare. Only ever seen one other on sale.
walpurgis
10-10-2017, 18:42
thats a translate page
Should be showing in English.
ah, got it, had to click on translating
How do you get on with the tis bury Geoff ?. I sold my Quad 306 to a guy who had the tisbury pre and he loved the combo !
walpurgis
11-10-2017, 08:28
How do you get on with the tis bury Geoff ?. I sold my Quad 306 to a guy who had the tisbury pre and he loved the combo !
Not tried the tisbury with the 306 yet Brian. Currently using the Promitheus TVC through that, sounds great.
I'll hook the Tisbury up with it later today. I have heard the combination before though and it works just fine.
walpurgis
13-10-2017, 21:11
Just a bit of fun.
The second Pioneer PL-12D I picked up. Serviced and cleaned, new belt fitted, cracked lid repaired and working fine. Sounds surprisingly decent with the Shure M75ED 2 on it.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2j0b33s.jpg
The repairs to the lid. It may not be too pretty, but it is solid. Fixed with 'Plastic Weld', not glue.
http://i65.tinypic.com/8wcupe.jpg
The first one I got has been passed on to a mate. Might keep this one (got a feeling there may be another in the loft too).
dantheman91
13-10-2017, 21:14
Just a bit of fun.
The second Pioneer PL-12D I picked up. Serviced and cleaned, new belt fitted, cracked lid repaired and working fine. Sounds surprisingly decent with the Shure M75ED 2 on it.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2j0b33s.jpg
The repairs to the lid. It may not be too pretty, but it is solid. Fixed with 'Plastic Weld', not glue.
http://i65.tinypic.com/8wcupe.jpg
The first one I got has been passed on to a mate. Might keep this one (got a feeling there may be another in the loft too).
If you ever want to pass on the loft one a home waiting here - my dad had a few so want to have one for nostalgia let me know...
walpurgis
13-10-2017, 21:18
If you ever want to pass on the loft one a home waiting here - my dad had a few so want to have one for nostalgia let me know...
Not certain it's still there Dan. My daughter stashed it away about ten years ago. I don't go up in the loft and it could have been removed.
dantheman91
14-10-2017, 11:29
Not certain it's still there Dan. My daughter stashed it away about ten years ago. I don't go up in the loft and it could have been removed.
Only one way to find out....:)
walpurgis
14-10-2017, 13:28
Only one way to find out....:)
Not a chance at the moment mate. The girl has piled so much stuff up there, I'd need ropes and crampons to search.
She's moving out soon though and will be removing much clutter. With a bit of luck I'll have access. If I find the Pioneer (assuming she doesn't pinch it), I'll decide what I'm doing with it. I certainly won't keep two.
ive just got to ask,have you got a damped unipivot up in the loft? :eyebrows:
walpurgis
14-10-2017, 19:15
ive just got to ask,have you got a damped unipivot up in the loft? :eyebrows:
How many do you want? :D
walpurgis
24-10-2017, 10:44
I feel a speaker project coming on. Not done one for years, but I've got so many bits, it's time I tried using some.
There are boxes of tweeters and crossover parts, a nice old pair of 10" KLH bass units on the shelf, along with various 8"and 6.5" drivers, at least twelve pairs of interesting full range units. Two spare 10" Tannoy dual concentrics and four KEF BD139 ABR's, plus loads of other bits.
Thing is, where the hell do I start? :eek:
Bigman80
24-10-2017, 10:48
Start with the two tannoy 10" for me lol
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walpurgis
24-10-2017, 10:54
Start with the two tannoy 10" for me
You should be so lucky! ;)
Bigman80
24-10-2017, 10:54
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Geoff can you knock us up a three-way with twin KLH 10'' bass units, full ranger for the mid/top and a super-tweeter? Say in 100 litre sealed cab? I'll drop round and pick them up in a week or so.
Cheers :)
I feel a speaker project coming on. Not done one for years, but I've got so many bits, it's time I tried using some.
There are boxes of tweeters and crossover parts, a nice old pair of 10" KLH bass units on the shelf, along with various 8"and 6.5" drivers, at least twelve pairs of interesting full range units. Two spare 10" Tannoy dual concentrics and four KEF BD139 ABR's, plus loads of other bits.
Thing is, where the hell do I start? :eek:
well have fun anyway.
walpurgis
24-10-2017, 13:56
Geoff can you knock us up a three-way with twin KLH 10'' bass units, full ranger for the mid/top and a super-tweeter? Say in 100 litre sealed cab? I'll drop round and pick them up in a week or so.
Cheers :)
HaHa. You've read my mind Martin. That's almost exactly what I had in mind for the KLH units! Including the sealed box.
The mid/top being provided by these very nice sounding vintage Japanese five inch twin cone drivers:
http://i68.tinypic.com/w2dt9t.jpg
Both they and the KLH units have 'everlasting' doped cloth cone surrounds.
The crossover in mind is a first order job at 630 Hz.
The whole lot will present a straightforward 8 ohm load.
A supertweeter will be considered, if necessary.
A supertweeter will be considered, if necessary.
The sparkle, man, the sparkle.
Firebottle
24-10-2017, 16:28
It's not November the 5th yet.
;)
walpurgis
24-10-2017, 17:13
It's not November the 5th yet.
;)
Might as well be. Sporadic fireworks been going off all day here.
I guess that they could just ban the ones that go bang. I mean it is mainly a visual thing anyway.
walpurgis
29-10-2017, 12:05
Just bought these vintage Eagle CT10 horn tweeters. Yes, I know, most will roll their eyes at the name Eagle, but these were made by Coral for them and actually sound really nice. I've used them before. I still have a 16 ohm pair but I'd been after an 8 ohm set for a while. They'll fit in with a project I have in mind. I'll need to use an 'L' Pad though, the sensitivity is 106 db.
http://i67.tinypic.com/25eutmg.jpg
Firebottle
29-10-2017, 12:31
I used these Geoff with rather sensitive tweeters : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monacor-Speaker-L-Pad-LP-100-8/132199942950?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
A reasonable 8 ohm match across the whole travel.
walpurgis
29-10-2017, 13:41
I used these Geoff with rather sensitive tweeters : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monacor-Speaker-L-Pad-LP-100-8/132199942950?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
A reasonable 8 ohm match across the whole travel.
I've got a bunch of 8 ohm 'L' pad pots Alan. :)
I'm sure I'll come up with something suitable, even if it's just a couple of series/parallel resistors to trim things down.
By the way, do you know the insertion loss from a resistor 'L' pad?
Firebottle
29-10-2017, 14:51
As ever Google is your friend. Here's a good one:
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-Lpad.htm
walpurgis
29-10-2017, 15:06
Ah. Funny you should point that one out Alan. I looked at the same one this morning. :)
It gives attenuations, but there's an insertion loss as well. I'm assuming it's a couple of DB. It's certainly noticeable with pot type attenuator with 0db cut, so I figured the resistor option should do the same.
walpurgis
08-11-2017, 16:32
Back to the project in hand. My sixties corner speakers. I'm patching up areas of damaged veneer.
http://i63.tinypic.com/21ewx2e.jpg
The grill cloths are disgusting. Possibly washable, but easily replaced if need be.
Couple of veneer nicks patched. They'll look fine with a sand down, a touch of filler and a bit of colour matching.
http://i66.tinypic.com/kagqo2.jpg
More to do though.
http://i65.tinypic.com/jiyniu.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/20m74j.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2vcz5tv.jpg
It'll all come up like new by the time I've finished. Then I'll have to decide what drive units will be in them.
was that the philips ones?
walpurgis
08-11-2017, 16:40
was that the philips ones?
Yup!
I'll probably (reluctantly) flog the Philips drivers. They should fetch a bob or two and the cash would be handy. Just wondering if I'd get a significantly better price with them in the cabinets. Most uses have their own ideas as to enclosures for those drive units.
walpurgis
13-11-2017, 12:08
Gone from this:
http://i63.tinypic.com/21ewx2e.jpg
To This:
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vkcbr8.jpg
All veneer repaired. Grille cloths sorted, sprayed them cream in situ. Removing the baffles was awkward and not necessary.
Bit of colour matching to finish on the veneer, then a coat of satin varnish. Terminals to fit on base instead of the captive leads they came with. Drivers to mount and wire up, then they're done.
see how they go. they are very nice. i like them
Gone from this:
To This:
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vkcbr8.jpg
All veneer repaired. Grille cloths sorted, sprayed them cream in situ. Removing the baffles was awkward and not necessary.
Bit of colour matching to finish on the veneer, then a coat of satin varnish. Terminals to fit on base instead of the captive leads they came with. Drivers to mount and wire up, then they're done.
Awesome work! They look like new, very nice.
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walpurgis
13-11-2017, 23:01
Awesome work! They look like new, very nice.
They do now (almost :)). Gave the wood a couple of coats of satin varnish, looks good. Still need waxing.
May have them finished tomorrow.
They do now (almost :)). Gave the wood a couple of coats of satin varnish, looks good. Still need waxing.
May have them finished tomorrow.
They might make good rear speakers for a surround system?
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walpurgis
14-11-2017, 08:57
They might make good rear speakers for a surround system?
Not something I'd considered, but I guess they could. I won't be keeping them though. Too much other stuff.
Have you finished them yet then Geoff?
walpurgis
14-11-2017, 18:27
Have you finished them yet then Geoff?
No. I was trying to do a bit on them outside, but drizzle stopped play.
Got the holes for the terminal plates sorted though.
walpurgis
18-11-2017, 22:20
Wot's this 'ere then? Somebody's sneaked a pair of midget speakers onto the end of my system!
http://i65.tinypic.com/291hspl.jpg
Yes. It's a dinky little pair of mint Mission-Cyrus 780SE's and sounding every bit as good as I remembered.
Despite the compact dimensions, there's no lack of scale and the clarity is just fine. I like the seamlessness across the frequency range too.
You can keep yer Usher S530's and LS3/5a's. These are just great! :)
(no, they're not mine, I'm minding them until my mate picks them up)
dinky size right enough. Probably about same size as my actives, that I run in conjunction with the fullragers. Having their own built in amp makes it easy and they just add a little sparkle
walpurgis
18-11-2017, 22:30
I had a pair some years ago and loved them. To be honest, I'd forgotten how good they are. These are proper Hi-Fi speakers and one could live with a pair happily.
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