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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaGTV View Post
    On my Orbe using the clamp is necessary. The recession in the platter centre is not deep enough to allow the nut to not interfere with the record... The plastic ring adds about a millimeter or so of height for the record center but even with this removed the records are elevated somewhat.
    //Mike
    You're quite correct Mike, I've just checked with a straight edge across across the recession so that really rules out using the platter without the clamp. So I need a mat with some central relief incorporated to allow clearance for the nut. The plastic ring is bevelled on one side and "flat" on the other presumably to offer an option on the degree of clamping force.................?

    Just found this on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OscarsAudi...item5afd21c462 which is cheap enough to prove the theory. Other than remembering neoprene as a "grippy" material I've no other view on how it might perform.
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    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

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    Interesting discussion, love my clamp though
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    Ipad Roon Remote.
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    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    .... love my clamp though
    I do know what you mean and I suppose it's a small price to pay for what it delivers, but the thought is always there as to how much does it actually contribute?

    I may soon know as I've ordered a mat and with a simple modification I'll be able to play "clampless". It'll at least get some of my 45rpm singles played a bit more anyway. I'll post the results one way or another.
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

  4. #14
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    Cheers Bob, will be interesting to hear how you get on "clampless".

    For me though, the Gyro's design has been about a while, reckon Michell know what they are doing.
    That said, part of the fun is trying things differently, though sometimes I've found you end up back where you started!

    As a new vinylista, I'm still loving the "ritual" of playing records and "pride of ownership" you don't really get with digital.
    Once the "romance" dies down (as it often does) you realise your screwing a clamp on and off every time you just want to listen to music, ok for full albums but single tracks....?
    Pain in the hoop really...

    But wouldn't ever change it...
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    ?....................love my clamp though
    which particular clamp are you referring to?

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    As they say up in Scotland: Sally's 'a wee dirty'!

    The bloke on the left seems to be having a 'right good shuffle', and the one on the right is perhaps hiding 'something protuberant'.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob4333 View Post
    I do know what you mean and I suppose it's a small price to pay for what it delivers, but the thought is always there as to how much does it actually contribute?

    I may soon know as I've ordered a mat and with a simple modification I'll be able to play "clampless". It'll at least get some of my 45rpm singles played a bit more anyway. I'll post the results one way or another.

    It definitely does work, and works brilliantly on a Technics SL1200MK2 also.
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    which particular clamp are you referring to?
    Wha hey!
    Couldn't possibly comment....that's between myself an Mistress Claudia

    On my own Orbed Gyro, (2nd hand buy) it didn't come with the clamp ring, just the nut.
    Phoned up Steve at Michell asking to buy one, and his quote was that he didn't actually use it himself, its not REALLY required and you wont lose anything without it.
    He explained a bit about the concept behind the Orbe platter and clamp and how it effectively makes the tonearm think its playing a record 60mm thick.
    All about damping resonance and changing its frequency outside audible range.

    Just to go off-topic for a sec, been doing some customisation to my turntable and I'm bowled over (seriously) by Michell's customer service.
    Absolutely the best I've ever come across - could not have been more helpful.
    Bulletproof turntable from a British engineering company that really looks after their customers.
    Fantastic, cant praise them enough.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Wha hey!
    Couldn't possibly comment....that's between myself an Mistress Claudia

    On my own Orbed Gyro, (2nd hand buy) it didn't come with the clamp ring, just the nut.
    Phoned up Steve at Michell asking to buy one, and his quote was that he didn't actually use it himself, its not REALLY required and you wont lose anything without it.
    He explained a bit about the concept behind the Orbe platter and clamp and how it effectively makes the tonearm think its playing a record 60mm thick.
    All about damping resonance and changing its frequency outside audible range.

    Just to go off-topic for a sec, been doing some customisation to my turntable and I'm bowled over (seriously) by Michell's customer service.
    Absolutely the best I've ever come across - could not have been more helpful.
    Bulletproof turntable from a British engineering company that really looks after their customers.
    Fantastic, cant praise them enough.
    You want to go to the factory.......
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















    Me so horny- Impulse H6 Horny

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