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    Anyone ever tried putting something like an Inspire Acri-Mat (or similar?) on their Orbe / Gyro and leaving the clamp off?

    What does it do to the sound?

    I ask out of laziness and because I've now got quite a few 180g re-released LP's that have double the amount of vinyl and half the amount of tracks per side and it's getting to be a PITA to change the record after maybe only two 5 minute tracks. I've also got a lot of mint 45rpm singles that just don't get played at all!

    I'll excuse you LP12 owners feeling a bit smug at reading this............
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob4333 View Post
    Anyone ever tried putting something like an Inspire Acri-Mat (or similar?) on their Orbe / Gyro and leaving the clamp off?

    What does it do to the sound?

    I ask out of laziness and because I've now got quite a few 180g re-released LP's that have double the amount of vinyl and half the amount of tracks per side and it's getting to be a PITA to change the record after maybe only two 5 minute tracks. I've also got a lot of mint 45rpm singles that just don't get played at all!

    I'll excuse you LP12 owners feeling a bit smug at reading this............

    Do you mean to try to lift the arm up, as the SME IV, is not hitting on the record edge on the rear of the arm?
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

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    An additional mat isn't going to improve the sound you get with a record directly onto the Michell platter and you don't need to use the clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Do you mean to try to lift the arm up, as the SME IV, is not hitting on the record edge on the rear of the arm?
    The arm height has plenty of adjustment so isn't the problem. The question is aimed at not having to put the clamp on / off every time I change the disc. Small thing but can get a little tedious when doing it repeatedly over a maybe 3 or 4 hour session. Especially with singles..........
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    An additional mat isn't going to improve the sound you get with a record directly onto the Michell platter and you don't need to use the clamp.
    It wasn't so much an improvement I was looking for (though always welcome of course), it's more in trying to avoid any degradation in SQ. I only tried the no clamp route once with a true but not overly loved LP and I seem to remember a degree of slip.................. and the hard surface of the Orbe platter seems a less than ideal choice to carry an unclamped record. The idea of a softish mat is more about achieving a non-slip condition without having to apply the clamp every time.

    But your comment about not needing the clamp is interesting.
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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    http://www.originlive.com/turntable-...atter-mat.html

    Sounds like you need 2 try one of these 1mm thick
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    Or a Reso Mat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    http://www.originlive.com/turntable-...atter-mat.html

    Sounds like you need 2 try one of these 1mm thick
    So in principle it's a possibility then? The thickness appeals.

    Dearly love to hear from someone who's tried a mat on a Michell platter, but then at these prices it could be worth a punt, especially as there's a cash back guarantee with the OL option.
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Or a Reso Mat.
    An option yes. Has anyone formed a view on this vs a full contact option?
    Source: Orbe SE / SME IV / Cadenza Bronze
    Source: WD NAS / Cyrus Stream X2 / Chord DAVE
    Source: Oppo UDP-205 (CD/DVD-A/SACD)

    Amplification: Icon Audio PS 3 Sig Phono + Audio Research LS27 + Musical Fidelity A5cr Power Amp
    Loudspeakers: ProAc Response D28
    Cables/stands: Mark Grant G1500HD + Linn K20 + Cat 5e
    Other bits: Okki Nokki keeping things clean

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    On my Orbe using the clamp is necessary. The recession in the platter centre is not deep enough to allow the nut to not interfere with the record... The plastic ring adds about a millimeter or so of height for the record center but even with this removed the records are elevated somewhat.
    //Mike

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