View Poll Results: Which of the following most accurately describes your perception of Flat Earth?

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  • I believe it is a state of mind and an approach to evaluating hi-fi systems

    47 66.20%
  • I associate the term negatively with hi-fi made by Linn or Naim

    19 26.76%
  • If you want flat earth only Linn or Naim will do.

    5 7.04%
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  1. #201
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    this is what i have been trying to say all along! sometimes its easier to say it with a picture
    CS Port TAT2 - Benz LPS - Funkfirm Houdini - DS Audio Vinyl Ionizer - CS Port C3EQ - Kondo G70 - Kondo Gakuoh II - Maxonic TW1100 MKII - Isol-8 SubStation Integra

  2. #202
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Indeed...



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  3. #203
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    The picture was good but the accompanying prose was pure genius.

  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Here's a picture of a 'proper' speaker, dwarfing a 'toy' one:



    Whatever happened to wide-baffled cabinets with decent-sized drive units... Are all speakers nowadays designed by anorexics?



    Marco.
    That little 'un is mad - the lower tweeter is great to 28KHz, yet they've put a jangling scan-squeak 8KHz resonator above it................

    Ashley said one brilliant thing on HDD recently - why not re-introduce ELLIPTICAL drivers again. The EMI unit from the 1960's was apparently very good indeed for its era and the KEF B139 was a very good bass unit as long as it was crossed over below 450 Hz, where it had a resonance I understand. With modern materials and CAD design, this could answer a lot of problems to do with radiating area........
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Here's a picture of a 'proper' speaker, dwarfing a 'toy' one:



    Whatever happened to wide-baffled cabinets with decent-sized drive units... Are all speakers nowadays designed by anorexics?



    Marco.
    More & more small houses are being built. Yeh i'd love a pair of big cock speakers but can't..

  6. #206
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Central England

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    In the flat earth days you'd run a top-notch source (LP12 ) into feisty little amps by Naim that could handle difficult loads into some small and difficult load bitch of speakers with a girly name or something named appropriately after the slang word for headphones.

    Then the wisdom crept in in recent years: why not use bigger/easier to drive speakers and amps that tell you more about what's at source instead of attempting to hector the bitch down the road.

    You don't need to live in a mansion to house big speakers though.

  7. #207
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    Exactly, I bet that either my lounge or listening room are no bigger than Andre's main rooms in his house, or those belonging to many other people using small speakers

    It's not as if I'm living in a mansion, or something!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  8. #208
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    The issue is one of the missus cramming the room with useless bits of furniture (if you gave her the Albert Hall she'd do exactly the same) and then tell you there's no room for those bloody great big 'orrible monstrosities.

  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Exactly, I bet that either my lounge or listening room are no bigger than Andre's main rooms in his house, or those belonging to many other people using small speakers

    It's not as if I'm living in a mansion, or something!

    Marco.
    But my stereo is in the living room, not a dedicated listerning room, one each side of the TV the only place possible.. All i can fit in is slim floor standers..This is why it did my head in living in this place.But but but i don't really care too much now, i listern the headphones.

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSJR View Post
    That little 'un is mad - the lower tweeter is great to 28KHz, yet they've put a jangling scan-squeak 8KHz resonator above it................

    Ashley said one brilliant thing on HDD recently - why not re-introduce ELLIPTICAL drivers again. The EMI unit from the 1960's was apparently very good indeed for its era and the KEF B139 was a very good bass unit as long as it was crossed over below 450 Hz, where it had a resonance I understand. With modern materials and CAD design, this could answer a lot of problems to do with radiating area........
    hi dave,
    i agree about eliptical speakers, some had great potential, i think if the design specs were looked at again, and with the software tools we have at our disposal today, the concept could be a very interesting one.
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