Any Digital Impressions of the Caiman yet?

[steveinspain]

Hah !
Only been a member here for about 2 weeks and already I am qualified to offer a tiny bit of advice AND it seems to have been good !
(also spent way too much as I have already bought a Caiman and some headphones..)
Glad to have been able to help Terry - I too am keeping my eyes well peeled for more info on this.

[Peter Stockwell]

Great info there Steve - Thanks a lot !! This seems to be exatcly what i have been waiting for. Will be seeking more info on this one.

Officially available from logitech since 15/10/2009

[chrism]

The Squeezebox Classic streams internet radio without the PC being switched on. I have found that I am listening to the radio more than Cd's at the moment. Some really great Jazz stations available and I tend to use the higher bitrate ones as they sound really good. SB / Caiman / A260 / Speakers - what more does a man need!

Regards

Chris

[technobear]

Officially available from logitech since 15/10/2009

The Logitech Squeezebox Touch is currently estimated to be available on December 1st.

This date is dependent on finishing the software in time.

[Themis]

Why? A hi-fi system is essentially synergistic and relies on all its components gelling together. Why exclude the DAC?

Well, a dac's role in a system is mainly neutral. Far more neutral than an amp, a preamp, a speaker, an amp/speaker relation, a room, a listening position, a room/listening position relation, a speaker/room placement, and so on.
As regards to all that, the "synergistic" part of the dac in the system represents less than -about- 1% of the overall "tonal color" of the system.

So, when I need to tune my system's tonal balance, choosing a dac, seems to me an inappropriate solution to a real problem.
Consequently, if I don't have a "tonal problem" to solve, then, again, whatever the dac it won't really change anything. So, the "tonally appropriate" phrase used in the review sounds inappropriate.
It's as if they were saying that this dac should have an "ac-outlet-appropriate" association...

I don't mean that all-dacs-sound-the-same, far from that. I mean that their differences are not "tonal" ones.

[apmusson]

Well done Stan.

[Peter Stockwell]

The Logitech Squeezebox Touch is currently estimated to be available on December 1st.

This date is dependent on finishing the software in time.

Yes, I must have misunderstood the logitech website, it looked like I could order one, when I looked last thursday. I see on amazon.com that it's status is pre-order.

[Shanedudddy2]

Well, a dac's role in a system is mainly neutral. Far more neutral than an amp, a preamp, a speaker, an amp/speaker relation, a room, a listening position, a room/listening position relation, a speaker/room placement, and so on.
As regards to all that, the "synergistic" part of the dac in the system represents less than -about- 1% of the overall "tonal color" of the system.

The DAC is a preamp as well. :/

Also my Caimen is on its way , do you guys think I`ll notice much improvement over the 7520 that I currently have, it is modded mind you.

[MartinT]

I don't mean that all-dacs-sound-the-same, far from that. I mean that their differences are not "tonal" ones.

A DAC is a source component, just like a CD player, tuner or turntable. If you accept that a CD player is synergistic and requires careful matching to a system - I do and so do most hi-fi professionals - then a DAC is no less so. it isn't just tonal quality, it's micro- and macro-dynamics, frequency extension, noise, transparency and a whole raft of other parameters that are hard to measure but easily heard.

Now, you can buy a tonally fairly neutral DAC like the Beresford and build a system around it, but you must still carefully match the whole to the sound you prefer.

[ZebuTheOxen]

The DAC is a preamp as well. :/

Also my Caimen is on its way , do you guys think I`ll notice much improvement over the 7520 that I currently have, it is modded mind you.

You will certainly notice an improvement in clarity. Depending on the source material, this can be a good or a bad thing.