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Thread: Goldpoint SA4M-47 passive 'preamp' winging its way to Marco Towers...

  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    As long as you don't burn your record collection, you should be fine.
    And what likely hood is there that cadmium will be any more or less a risk or Beryllium, used by many audio companies in their tweeters drive units ?

    Thing is vinyl is a controlled substance, must be handled with great care and increasingly is harder to get, due to the handling regulations brought in. All vinyl used in American pressing plants is imported, none of it comes from the states, same is probably true here.

    Anyway I am disappointed to see such scare mongering brought here.


    Regards Neil

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    Initially, I thought Kevin's remarks were tongue-in-cheek, but he seems to be serious...

    The poor boy's been brainwashed by the agenda-driven scaremongering of a certain passive preamp manufacturer (with a penchant for glued-down acrylic cases), as he sees the increasing popularity of LDRs as a threat to his sales, so therefore has done his level best to, let's put it politely, 'dissuade' folk from buying them, who unfortunately are easily influenced and blessed with a tendency to worry too much about nothing!

    Let's face it, inhaling 'cadmium fumes' is about as likely to occur, during the normal use of a fully built, fully functioning, and properly housed LDR preamp, as the inhalation of cigarette smoke by a family of non-smokers!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Anyway, back on topic, the 'posh resistors', for the Goldpoint, have been ordered from HFC and will be here tomorrow

    Full report tomorrow evening (with pics), once the comparisons have been completed, where the winner will be revealed. Don't miss it!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Initially, I thought Kevin's remarks were tongue-in-cheek, but he seems to be serious...

    The poor boy's been brainwashed by the agenda-driven scaremongering of a certain passive preamp manufacturer (with a penchant for glued-down acrylic cases), as he sees the increasing popularity of LDRs as a threat to his sales, so therefore has done his level best to, let's politely put it, 'dissuade' folk from buying them, who unfortunately are easily influenced and blessed with a tendency to worry too much about nothing!

    Let's face it, inhaling 'Cadmium fumes' is about as likely to occur, during the normal use of an LDR preamp, as the inhalation of nicotine by a family of non-smokers! In reality, you're far more likely to die inhaling the fumes from a house fire, caused by an amplifier combusting, as a result of being fitted without any DC protection circuitry.....................

    Marco.
    Cadmium is nasty stuff, hence why it is likely to be banned in Europe very soon.
    Still, it is your choice...

    For various parts that need to be cad plated for work, they are all sent to specialist companies these days.
    Kevin

    Too busy enjoying the music....

    European loan coordinator for Graham Slee HiFi system components..

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    I don't doubt for a second that it's nasty stuff, but it's only nasty if you misuse it in some way.

    Explain to me, how in the normal course of using an LDR preamp, to play music in a hi-fi system, as long as you don't tamper with the internals of the device, you can die or become badly poisoned?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Cadmium is nasty stuff, hence why it is likely to be banned in Europe very soon.
    Still, it is your choice...

    For various parts that need to be cad plated for work, they are all sent to specialist companies these days.
    But it is still used, apparently.
    ABD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurcher View Post
    So what you are saying (or not, maybe I have a different usage of the words saying, what, you and are) is that language is flexible and may not perfectly be used to exchange information without the assumption of agreed meaning.

    Your solution to this is?
    Well, I assume you are being sarcastic, but I will answer anyway.
    Be precise, don't assume terms from one sense apply to a different one. Ignorance is fine, but now that you know, continued use of the term without qualifying it would be lazy.
    Also, treat a serious point seriously. There are many who won't understand the differences, so you owe it to them to try to be clear. I am just guessing what your exact meaning is, and I can actually see a distinction. How many can't?
    Indeed language is flexible, but without a shared definition it just becomes babble.
    ABD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I don't doubt it for a second that it's nasty stuff, but it's only nasty if you misuse it in some way.

    Explain to me, how in the normal course of using an LDR preamp, to play music in a hi-fi system, as long as you don't tamper with the internals of the device, you can die or become badly poisoned?

    Marco.
    I think that the COSHH legislation is designed (!) mainly to protect workers who are exposed to dangerous substances in large amounts, and disposal of same, either landfill or incineration. Where lead in solder is concerned, for example, medical and military equipment have exemptions. Because it makes equipment less reliable! Anyway, leaded solder is readily available, and making stained glass windows (for one example) uses large amounts of the stuff. Regular blood tests are recommended for workers.
    Day to day use of many substances poses minimal health risks.
    ABD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awkwardbydesign View Post
    But it is still used, apparently.
    Mainly on fasteners, but usually as a last resort.
    The challenge now is to find an alternative product that works just as well.
    Kevin

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    European loan coordinator for Graham Slee HiFi system components..

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    Fancy tackling my post earlier post, Kevin (#205)?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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