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  1. #131
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    Well I was just going to revive this thread but you beat me too it. I had one before with an alps pot and we did not like it much but right now I am listening to a pretty holographic 3d and very very enjoyable stepped attentuator version which has been in the system for several weeks now
    Full on bass and using 2 metre cables from rfc with no problems . it seems to suit the msb power amp rather well.of course it does not have quite the texture and realism of some valve amps but it punches well well above its price
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    Nice one, Phil. It was the stepped attenuator bit that sold it to me, so pleased to know that makes a difference

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  3. #133
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    Yes not sure why but there is a very big difference . it might possibly be because I bought the alps one new and this stepped one was well run in and is pretty full bloodied . the bass is enough to keep my Mrs awake currently at 11pm!!!!
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    Cool. Like for like, I've always found steppers more accurate than pots - that's why I think they sound better

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I've used both and prefer stepped attenuators, but a TVC unit moves things forward vastly!

    Like this?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raphaelite...item3ce8cd7d8e
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    using a tvc myself now and its very good... although I think one of the stepped vc's is faulty. May soon have to be replaced; might be a time to change it to a single double throw step vc rather than the current 2 separates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    using a tvc myself now and its very good... although I think one of the stepped vc's is faulty. May soon have to be replaced; might be a time to change it to a single double throw step vc rather than the current 2 separates.
    They're not VCs, just rotary switches selecting tap positions on the transformers. You'll have to count the switching contacts and match them to a dual rotating switch. You could then use the spare control hole in the front panel for a rotary input selector dual switch. Probably two or three way depending on how much room for extra sockets you'd have on the back.

    If yours is playing up try a bit of switch cleaner.
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    yep, thats what i meant. dunno where you'd get good ones mind but if I do it it will likely not be me lol. I would need a soldering bolt better than my gas job. last one went o/s. probably best to get Ali or Alan to do it.... one of the channels went semi o/s today for a while. I actually thought one of my speakers had gone ......it was odd!! maybe a good clean may sort it if it happens again.
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    maybe a good clean may sort it if it happens again.
    It's the first thing to try. I use this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Switch-Cle...item4198c40da4

    Avoid the solvent types. They can dissolve plastic parts.

    Also (as I'm sure you know), check soldered joints. Which could be a pain. As there are quite a few inside.
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    plumbed my tissie back in yesterday-moving back from active to passive.....sounds lovely and transparent,bass quality is very nice. Great piece of kit for reasonable money.

    The stepped attenuator does seem to work really well.

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