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    right at the bottom of the page it says "already have an account" login there with your Spotify credentials. They are not making it easy for us !!

    edit : ok, sorry. I didn't read your whole previous post... you already have the app in that case.. so no need to get the app.

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    But I'm already logged into Spotify, with my Premium Account (and have been all day).... Anyway, I've done as you said and have arrived at this page (where it mentions nothing about apps):

    www.spotify.com/uk/download/mac/



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    Quote Originally Posted by r100 View Post
    edit : ok, sorry. I didn't read your whole previous post... you already have the app in that case.. so no need to get the app.
    Lol - jeez!

    So where can I find this app then, on Spotify - or more specifically, once I've found it, how do I use it to do what you've suggested? We're now back at square one!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwin View Post
    Thanks for giving some clarity Ali,

    The definition of streaming is to play files (access data not on your device), music, video etc in real time. So the data is not pre down loaded or read off your hard disc at any point. The data can be streamed over the net, off another device you own using wifi or blue tooth etc. That is why I was confused about the Pi being hard wired to a data storage server and Streaming being talked about.

    The Pi seems to be used as a dumb terminal on a network and is pulling the stored data off the server.

    To say the Pi is a cheep option is misleading (not that you said that) because you need all the additional hardware for it to function. Talk of tablets, smart phones, , NAS and "your Network" implies you have to have all this kit to play music, the Pi wont do anything on its own.

    I am presuming the Pi does not have wifi or internet access and this is done through a networked device?

    I don't own any of this kit, so it IS expensive for me to set up (I dont even have a land line).

    I'm not a technophobe, the first computer I used was fifty grands worth of Silicon Graphics workstation and I was one of the first three people in the UK to own a hands free blue tooth telephone headset, back in the days before Sony bought Ericson to aquire its Blue tooth technology. I'm just selective these days about what technology I use and what if any are its real benefits. I dropped out of using social media almost immediately as I couldn't care less what someone had for breakfast, talk about get a life! There is so much bull and buzz words surounding this stuff and quite often folks dont even understand the basics of what they are talking about, kids talk about Apps like its a pre requisite to breathing but dont even understand what an App is.

    Yes the real costs of FBA are high and the ongoing cost of updating hardware/software to keep pace and avoid obsolescence, mean it continues to be a drain after the initial set up and you aint bought any tunes yet.
    Yes, I did assume you had some sort of PC and a router, so yes it would cost you more to set up. However, USB hard drives are pretty cheap, so it may be possible to connect one directly to the PI. Also, I don't know if it's possible, but you may be able to use your telly as a monitor, negating the need for a smartphone or tablet. All you'd need then is a wireless keyboard and mouse, which are cheap enough.

    You're correct regarding the word streaming, but it seems to have become a catch-all term for this type of audio.

    If it can be done this way, another benefit is you would be able to use streaming services like Netflix, so you could watch films and series at a fraction of the cost of Sky.
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    ha, it should say "thank's for downloading.."

    in fact it has downloaded the app to your dl folder on your computer. Follow the instructions to install the app. I still get the impression you are using the web version of Spotify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    However, USB hard drives are pretty cheap, so it may be possible to connect one directly to the PI.
    I can confirm that is indeed the case

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    But I'm already logged into Spotify, with my Premium Account (and have been all day).... Anyway, I've done as you said and have arrived at this page (where it mentions nothing about apps):

    www.spotify.com/uk/download/mac/



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    Quote Originally Posted by r100 View Post
    ha, it should say "thank's for downloading.."

    in fact it has downloaded the app to your dl folder on your computer. Follow the instructions to install the app. I still get the impression you are using the web version of Spotify.

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    Sorry, Rupert, we're going round in circles, mate, and you're being very helpful.... But I can see nowhere where there are instructions to install an app. What do you mean the web version of Spotify?

    I've paid for a Premium Spotify account and logged into my account, via my Facebook page, which takes me to the main Spotify page where I can access 'My Music' or click on "New Releases", or search for specific artists.

    More confused now than ever....

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I can confirm that is indeed the case

    Marco.
    Ok cool, may even sound better that way.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

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    let's leave it a that for the moment... i gotta finish some work... will get back to you ASAP... in the meantime I think Struth is right...

    ps. you can access the Spotify services in multiple ways, one of which is with an app on your computer, another is over the web, when you dont have your computer... but more later..

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