Marco's cleaning process with new vinyl, using an RCM

[Ali Tait]

Yes, But that's not what I'm talking about, I mean brushes used before playing a record.

[SLS]

For the uninitiated. An excellent video from Mark Baker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbC2ANXRqY

Yes, he uses L'Art Du Son, but he doesn't have mushrooms growing off his records.

[SLS]

It was always my understanding the the fluid did the work. The brush is just to make sure it gets into the grooves.

The brush does not go in the grooves, nor does it have to or should it. See video just posted.

[daytona600]

Brushes are so 20th century Welcome to the 21st century

[PaulStewart]

Interesting video Scott, factually it leaves a little to be desired however. To start at the end of the process, there is little better than cold air, unless it has been negatively ionised for promoting static, you might have seen desert lightning and the like. Secondly, I don't think there is any suggestion that the idea is for the brush to reach to the bottom of the groove. The idea is to get the fluid into the top of the groove and spread it evenly. Capillary action combined with the correct wetting agent will carry and indeed force the fluid to the bottom of the grooves, in fact research has shown that the absorbent dry nature of a lot of the dust particles will mean that fluid, with the correct degree and type of wetting agent will easily travel throughout the groove. Likewise to go back to the question of static, a properly designed fluid will be anti static and will not build up static on the record.

Here are some microscope pics of the same record before and after cleaning with a Loricraft machine

Before


After


These were made independently of either Loricraft or myself and the whole video is on the net. I doubt it is possible for any RCM to do better than this.

Also, there is some discussion as to the effect of ultrasonic bombardment on vinyl with some thinking that molecules must be stripped away by the process. I have seen no published data to the contrary. On the other hand we can show that using "The Right One" fluid after 100 cleaning cycles on a Loricraft PRC4 there were no deleterious effects and after 1000 wetting and drying cycles to a strip of recording vinyl there was no de-vinylising.

Yes brushes are indeed 20th century and so are quality vintage HiFi, the LP record, and the electric guitar all things that make music great.

Cheers

[MCRU]

Trade members touting their wares should be in the "trade section" so visit it guys, nice one!

[MCRU]

WTF who is this?

[PaulStewart]

I'm not touting for business David I'm just refuting a statement made about one technology touted by someone who appears to have an axe to grind, in my opinion brushes and vacuums rule That's my profile pic mate, bit out of date as I've now lost three and a half stone. My listeners haven't complained though in fact I have been asked for a signed print..... Or was that a signed cheque

[MCRU]

I'm not touting for business David I'm just refuting a statement made about one technology touted by someone who appears to have an axe to grind, in my opinion brushes and vacuums rule That's my profile pic mate, bit out of date as I've now lost three and a half stone. My listeners haven't complained though in fact I have been asked for a signed print..... Or was that a signed cheque

Wasn't meaning you chief! I rarely visit the AOS these days as hounded off for being over enthusiastic which was ill perceived as pushy salesmanship!

[PaulStewart]

Wasn't meaning you chief! I rarely visit the AOS these days as hounded off for being over enthusiastic which was ill perceived as pushy salesmanship!

Ahh! that's why you didn't answer the PM I sent you I'm turning Safari off now as I have a show to record on this Mac

Cheers