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Thread: John Wood Audio, a tale of woe

  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val33 View Post
    I used to run my own company, we supplied parts and accessories for classic and sports cars. For many years I was like Mr Wood. I genuinely believed that the customers were idiots and the only person that knew what he was doing was me. I would argue to the death on each and every return or complaint. I avoided refunds to the very last possible moment. Business was ok, but never did more that pay the bills. After long conversations with other retailers, reading many many articles by my peers and taking a very long hard look at both myself and the business, I did a complete U turn and introduced a 100%, no quibble, 90 day returns policy. 100% of your money back, no questions, no arguments, no limitations, just a straight refund.

    In the following year, our turnover and profit doubled. In fact, it doubled, year on year for that and the next five years and within ten years we sold the business to a group of venture capitalists for a very high seven figure sum.

    In business, as, I think, in life, the first loss is the best loss. Refund the money, all of it, and move on. As a businessman, it goes completely against the grain, but I can assure you it is the the best, if not the only, way to run a successful business.

    Reading stories like this sadden me greatly, I am sure that John Wood is a genuine, honest and passionate man who sadly is just not cut out for running a business unless he can understand the above lesson, act on it and move forward.

    Val
    Hi Val,

    Mr wood I'm sure, builds very good amplifiers, that's why I placed an order with him after reading glowing reports on the Wam, I'm also sure he's passionate about what he does, however, he's certainly not honest.

  2. #202
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    So, Geoffrey, what do you intend to do about my offer? If you accept it, I will contact John and see if he’s in agreement.

    Then we can hopefully bring this sorry mess to an end without any further involvement from the courts!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    So, Geoffrey, what do you intend to do about my offer? If you accept it, I will contact John and see if he’s in agreement.

    Then we can hopefully bring this sorry mess to an end without any further involvement from the courts!

    Marco.
    Hi Marco,

    thank you, it's very kind of you, however, I doubt that Mr Wood will be interested to be honest.

  4. #204
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    Well, we’ll soon find out when I phone him!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle owl View Post
    Hi Marco,

    thank you, it's very kind of you, however, I doubt that Mr Wood will be interested to be honest.
    Even so Geoff, the door is open a crack so surely it would be worth taking a peek, don't you think? This way the transaction is facilitated through a trusted third party thus neatly sidestepping the aura of personal mistrust which has developed between yourself and John. It needs the two of you to subscribe to this in order to finally put this nightmare to rest...

  6. #206
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    Any progress with getting this concluded?
    Bits:

    Amps:

    Avondale

    Analogue:

    Acoustic Signature Analogue 1 mkIII

    Gold Note PH10


    Digital:

    Resolution Audio Opus21


    Speakers:

    AudioNote J

  7. #207
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    Nope, because I’ve still to get hold of John - been too busy. Don’t worry, I’ll update the thread as soon as I’ve made contact with him

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val33 View Post
    I used to run my own company, we supplied parts and accessories for classic and sports cars. For many years I was like Mr Wood. I genuinely believed that the customers were idiots and the only person that knew what he was doing was me. I would argue to the death on each and every return or complaint. I avoided refunds to the very last possible moment. Business was ok, but never did more that pay the bills.

    Reading stories like this sadden me greatly, I am sure that John Wood is a genuine, honest and passionate man who sadly is just not cut out for running a business unless he can understand the above lesson, act on it and move forward.

    Val
    I can think of a sales director of a manufacturer of little active speakers that has felt this way about dealers and customers for twenty five years or so - and went online-selling as a result. Fortunately for him, their products are generally extremely reliable and long lived, but 'party' the products at your peril if they've been 'developed further' since purchase!

    Sad for me, because the products do have merit IMO...
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

  9. #209
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    Yes, Ashley James of AVI (and his even more ‘ancient’ side-kick, JC) fit that grossly arrogant and dogmatic business model rather well

    They’re very lucky that there’s a market currently for their boring little ‘speakerettes’!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, Ashley James of AVI (and his even more ‘ancient’ side-kick, JC) fit that grossly arrogant and dogmatic business model rather well

    They’re very lucky that there’s a market currently for their boring little ‘speakerettes’!

    Marco.
    They'll be 'Legacy' products next year, and nobody at AVI will want to know when they go tits up, or someone needs something as simple as a manual!
    Bits:

    Amps:

    Avondale

    Analogue:

    Acoustic Signature Analogue 1 mkIII

    Gold Note PH10


    Digital:

    Resolution Audio Opus21


    Speakers:

    AudioNote J

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