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    Quote Originally Posted by 337alant View Post
    Excellent stuff that Dynamat Andre thanks for the tip
    I used it on my pioneer platter which had a distinct ring before but sounds dead as a dodo now

    IMG_0010 by 337alant, on Flickr

    Alan
    Did the platter ring when a mat was placed on top? And does the turntable sound better for the damping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Where does one obtain it in the UK?

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    Have you got a car parts shop nearby?
    They're likely to have some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 337alant View Post
    Excellent stuff that Dynamat Andre thanks for the tip
    I used it on my pioneer platter which had a distinct ring before but sounds dead as a dodo now
    Alan
    Glad you liked it. Did your platter have any other damping underneath that you had to clear away?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Where does one obtain it in the UK?

    Marco.
    All sorts of sizes are available. The reason it comes in such large quantities is that it is used for cars. My chariot for example has all four doors and the boot lined with the stuff. Automotive retailers are likely to stock it. I have tried a couple of other brands, but they were not as effective. And if you do give it a go; the subspecies you ask for is Dynamat Extreme.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    I was looking at a review of an item earlier today and they had used this material to deaden the case so seems there are more uses than just under platters
    Regards Neil
    Platter, Internally on the 1210 chassis, Cars where some put it under the carpet on the firewall between the front seats and the engine, computer case panels, on the bracing of speaker drivers. They also make a product that goes on the opposite facing internal wall of a car door speaker (could be used in a hi-fi speaker too I suppose). Not effective on politicians, noisy spouses and cats on heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Have you got a car parts shop nearby?
    They're likely to have some.
    Cheers, I’ll ask next time I’m in my local one. I’ll only be interested though if I can pick it up in small strips.

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    Marco PM me what you need, I will send you some

    Glad you liked it. Did your platter have any other damping underneath that you had to clear away?
    Andrei, no it was a bare platter

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    Sorry if this has been asked before, but how can you be sure to maintain correct dynamic balance when sticking on such damping materials? I've no idea if the standard platter is balanced, but it would seem sensible to avoid out of balance forces that would require the motor circuitry to work hard applying corrections.

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    Yes this is discussed earlier in the thread. Jim (6L6) and Samuli (samursa) have both suggested materials that could be poured into the cavity. Samuli's pic at #49 shows the use of a spirit level. As I see it there are two benefits of this. First these material would ensure near perfect balancing; and second I imagine they would be easier to implement. I am certainly going to try it, as I have three spare platters, but I have a number of other projects on the go. It will be interesting to see if they are as effective at damping as dynamat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Yes this is discussed earlier in the thread. Jim (6L6) and Samuli (samursa) have both suggested materials that could be poured into the cavity.
    The Epoxy recommended to me by more than one pweson who has done it is this - http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-s...2HwaAqIe8P8HAQ

    Although you may need a bit more than that quantity...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei View Post
    Yes this is discussed earlier in the thread. Jim (6L6) and Samuli (samursa) have both suggested materials that could be poured into the cavity. Samuli's pic at #49 shows the use of a spirit level. As I see it there are two benefits of this. First these material would ensure near perfect balancing; and second I imagine they would be easier to implement. I am certainly going to try it, as I have three spare platters, but I have a number of other projects on the go. It will be interesting to see if they are as effective at damping as dynamat.
    I understand what has been done there, but static balancing is not the same as dynamic balancing. Would you balance a car wheel with a spirit level, and why do manufacturers usually take such trouble to carry out dynamic balancing of platters? The potential out of balance forces may be relatively small, but in vinyl replay the displacement and forces involved at the stylus are tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 337alant View Post
    Marco PM me what you need, I will send you some
    Hi Alan, thanks for that. I’ll work out what I need (won’t be much - just a few strips) and let you know

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    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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