Twelveb - DIY to the rescue again
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I'm Steve.
Twelveb - DIY to the rescue again
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2498
System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.
Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
For more information about my creations and products please click below
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While everyone will probably have a "favorite" cleaning solution, one I've had really good luck with on bargain (i.e. dirty) records has been Todd The Vinyl Junkie's Vinyl Zyme cleaner and now after trying Mobile Fidelity's "Plus" enzyme cleaner, I'm getting even better results.
Letting this stuff soak on even the dirtiest record for about three minutes, vacuuming thoroughly and then cleaning again with the purest water you can find, has your LP's sounding like new again! (or at least pretty close)
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I'm ThinkingOfHorns.
I've just bought an Okki Nokki from a Wammer & it will be with me by the middle of next week
Just looking for recommendations for Cleaning brushes, Cleaning Fluids (i.e. L'art du son? Pre-made types vs Homebrew [recipes pls])
Methods for cleaning? i.e. cleaning fluid wash > Vac dry > Distilled water rinse > Vac dry! One brush or two? What works for you?
Also after cleaning what inner-sleeves are best? nagaoka, paper or polylined? & which outer-sleeves polythene or PVC?
Cheers alfie
alfie
Main System: Denon DP-6000 VPI Base/Fidelity Research FR64s/Ortofon SPU Royal GM MKII/Shelter 901/Auditorium 23 SUT/Pure Sound P10/SB Touch or Audio Note CDT & M2Tech Young Dac/BL Audio LP-1/New Audio Frontiers KT66 Legend/Living Voice OBX.
2nd System: PC/Foobar/E-MU 0404 pci (Modded)/AVI ADM9/Rel Strata II subs.
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I'm Steve.
I use a Clearaudio cleaning pad ~£10 from their website for washing in the cleaning fluid.
Before that a Carbon fibre soft bristled brush to remove the worst of the dust.
Fluid wise it's DIY. 1/3 isopropyl alcohol, 2/3 distilled / batt water from Halfords and 0.5 of a tea spoon wetting agent (from photographic shop).
Detergent can be used but for the purists it contains salts and other nasties that could leave residue.
The IPA if available over the internet 1lt bottle lasts ages. Ditto the wetting agent. Best to get the wife to go into town and ask for it in several photographic shops like I did
Only a proper shop will stock it and she will have fun asking at Jessops and the like
All ready to clean and vac.
Sleeve wise I like the poly lined paper ones - new sleeve for any cleaned record.
They seem most sympathetic / cost effective to use.
I have not got into outer sleeves yet. I've got a couple and the ones that hug the cover are best. Loose poly bags are useless IMO.
Last edited by Magna Audio; 07-06-2009 at 22:27. Reason: added about sleeves
System: Turntable : SP10 MKII slate plinth, Custom Ebony tonearm board, Arm : Fidelity Research FR64s, Cartridge : SPU Royal N. SUT : Lundahl 1:13. Phonostage : Icon Audio, Streaming RPi/Kali reclocker -> I2S -> DSP XO / Pre / 4 DAC's : WAF Najda, 5 Poweramps : 3 x EL84 SET's, 2 x D class amps on bass channels, Speakers : 5 way front loaded horn system: 2 X Tapped sub 15" LF drivers / 2 X Exponential mid bass 15" drivers / Tractrix 200Hz mid horns with JBL2482's, / Tractrix 550Hz upper wooden horns with factory refurb'd Vitavox S2's / Raal Lazy Ribbons as high frequency tweeters. Wires: good silver or good copper where best suited. DIY RCM.
Maker of tonearm boards, armpods, Tannoy GRF style speaker cabinets, horn speakers, counterweights and more.
For more information about my creations and products please click below
http://fosworld.wixsite.com/magna-audio & on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/magna_audio/
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The Okki nokki can fool someone into thinking it's a bloody turntable
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FROM the GRAVE...
How important are squeaky-clean records to your enjoyment of music on vinyl?
Or perhaps there are some of you out there who are anti wet-record cleaning, and so wouldn’t touch an RCM with a barge pole? Let’s hear from you, too!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I'm Geoff.
Dunno. Haven't got any!Originally Posted by Marco
FROM the GRAVE...
How important are squeaky-clean records to your enjoyment of music on vinyl?Marco.
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
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I'm Bernie.
For me noisy vinyl is like somebody dragging their fingernails down a blackboard! It sets off my OC behaviour.
Bernie.
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For anyone with more than 200 records, a record cleaning machine is an essential piece of equipment. A previously unplayable record was restored 'as new' by my RCM. It is not only old, or used, or second-hand records that benefit from wet-vacuum cleaning, new records do as well - an excessive amount of mould releasing agent is used on some modern pressings these days.
For those who cannot afford an RCM (and they are relatively expensive) but who have some rudimentary DIY skills, an effective RCM can be built for very little money: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...9230-A-DIY-RCM. So no excuse.
Barry
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I'm Jay.
I agree with everything you say Barry, except mould release agent. I recall a "conversation" (was a discussion on another forum) with someone who was in the record industry, who said they didn't use any such thing. The "release" was accomplished by the cooling of the record. That said, there are lots of places in the post-stamping handling where a record could get contaminated, so I agree that it's certainly worth washing even new records.
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