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    I totally get where you're coming from, dude.

    However, for me, it's not about the SIZE of music collection, but the QUALITY of it - and by that I mean the quality of it to the owner, i.e. that it consists 100% of stuff he or she values and enjoys listening to, and crucially, plays on a regular basis.

    There's little point in having 10,000 albums, if only 5% of that regularly sees the light of day, or if 50% of it is shite you no longer like!

    In the case of the latter, get rid of it or sell it to someone else who will appreciate it. In that respect, thinning down one's collection makes perfect sense, as it makes you appreciate more what you've got left

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    it's not about the SIZE , but the QUALITY of it
    that's what I keep telling my wife
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Steadman View Post
    Much as I enjoy vinyl, this is one of the joys of a computer based system. My entire collection is laid out with such easy access that I listen to a much greater number of my 'records' than I used to. This in spite of the main Mac not being in the main hi-fi. Listening casually at the desk keeps reminding me of forgotten music which I can then put on the big rig to fully appreciate.
    I totally get that, Gordon. However, I'm different. All my records are neatly stored on shelves and categorised in genre and alphabetical order - all sharing the same room as my system, and only a few feet away from where I sit.

    Therefore, depending on the mood I'm in, and what I fancy listening to, on vinyl or CD, I can access the album and play it in seconds (much quicker than waiting for some computers to boot up), and still have the joy of handling my precious album covers, and reading the sleeve notes as I listen to the music.

    That 'emotional connection' I obtain from owning a physical music collection is fundamentally important to me, and with having a well-organised set up, convenience isn't compromised either

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    that's what I keep telling my wife
    At your age, the worry is more likely getting it 'up' and keeping it there!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    there are medicines to help ...
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    Surely everyone's music collection gathers some rubbish over the years that need pruning out every now & then but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... A couple of years ago I sold all my metal albums because at the time I didn't want to hear them & couldn't foresee a time I ever would again, fast forward to today & I can think of quite a few I wouldn't mind playing

    Tastes evolve but they can also regress ! I would advise keeping albums you rarely listen rather than selling/disposing. Store them elsewhere, in the loft, lock up or wherever... Just don't get rid !

    These days I just have to click "delete from library, keep file" - I've still got it but don't have to look at it

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    Many years ago I sold a few albums and got next to nothing for them. I promised myself I would never sell any again, and I haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istari_knight View Post
    Surely everyone's music collection gathers some rubbish over the years that need pruning out every now & then but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... A couple of years ago I sold all my metal albums because at the time I didn't want to hear them & couldn't foresee a time I ever would again, fast forward to today & I can think of quite a few I wouldn't mind playing

    Tastes evolve but they can also regress ! I would advise keeping albums you rarely listen rather than selling/disposing. Store them elsewhere, in the loft, lock up or wherever... Just don't get rid !

    These days I just have to click "delete from library, keep file" - I've still got it but don't have to look at it
    Maybe it's time for this thread to be resurrected: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...n-the-cupboard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I'd put it another way:

    Who is the greatest music lover - the man with 500 albums, from his favourite artists, and a £1k system, who plays every one of those albums regularly, and knows them inside out, or the man with 10,000 albums, and a £10k system, who only listens to a small fraction of those albums regularly, and because he's got so many, forgets most of them exist?



    The value of the system is irrelevant (as to an extent is the ABSOLUTE SIZE of the music collection); it's how often the latter gets listened to that matters most!

    Marco.
    Or the person with next to no physical record collection, no hifi but spends a lot of time playing music with other people, recording in bands, is on the move a lot and listens to an ipod on the go?

    Hifi is all about sound. Music can easily be seperated from the sound but often enjoyed more on a better system. Some great musicians just aren't so into that though, music to them is about human interacton and collective enjoyment of the musical moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nat8808 View Post
    Or the person with next to no physical record collection, no hifi but spends a lot of time playing music with other people, recording in bands, is on the move a lot and listens to an ipod on the go?
    Sure, but we're talking about folk who own decent hi-fi systems. One of my pet hates on forums, and it doesn't really happen here, are people who clearly aren't very interested in hi-fi littering the audio section(s) with their cynicism and negativity.

    They should simply steer clear of those areas and post solely in the music room, or avoid forums altogether. Trouble is, they can't resist 'poking' others of a different mindset (for some morbid form of 'entertainment') or using forums as vehicles to fulfil their bitter agendas...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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