Epping TT Bake off (from pfm)

[Marco]

You really do enjoy being unbelievably ridiculous, don't you?

It's called humour, Richard. Are you aware of the concept? I believe that you compared me recently to some baby, or whatever, on 'Family Guy', which I chuckled at.

Therefore in what way is that perfectly acceptable behaviour, yet not me poking fun at you?

If you dish it out then be prepared to take it back! That's life. Sue away, if you feel so inclined.

Marco.

[Steve Toy]

Richard, it is not suable so don't act the big girl's blouse. You would get absolutely nowhere with what is light-hearted banter. It is also a case of not dishing it out if you can't take it - Family Guy reference?

As forum owner I feel quite safe from your litigation threats. You need to lighten up.

[Steve Toy]

I've just seen Marco's post above.

[Marco]

Its not a carpeted concrete slab, it is my house, as that is what it is built on.

My apologies, I stand corrected. It seems that the carpeted concrete floor of your house was not considered by per-Sony-fied (and others) as an optimal platform for his LP12.

Marco.

[Steve Toy]

I think what Richard has been saying about us is quite libelous but I'm not the litigious type.

[Marco]

Me neither. My sense of humour prevents me from being that bored!

Marco.

[Marco]

On the subject of 'supports' for an LP12, I've taken the liberty of copying this from pfm, from the official set-up manual:

The difference that can be obtained by placing the turntable on a light object is startling. It improves every aspect of the sound. There is no advantage, whatsoever, to placing a turntable on a massive object or isolation base. The misconception being that massive objects isolate a turntable from large amplitude vibrations due to their inertia. Although these objects move very small amounts in response to the energy that strikes them, they move at very, very low frequencies, well below the cut-off point of the suspension of any turntable. The result is that you directly couple the turntable to all manner of environmental noise, i.e. traffic outside and footfalls. Light objects do not resonate at these frequencies, and do not couple the turntable at these frequencies. Isolation bases with additional suspensions should be avoided. The additional suspension interacts with the suspension of the turntable, (when one moves, it induces a movement in the other suspension, which moves the first etc.) and the whole thing becomes unstable and begins to oscillate. For the same reason, flimsy, shaky surfaces should be avoided.

Indeed; this is precisely what I've experienced whenever I've used an LP12, and I've owned about five different versions of them since I got into 'proper' hi-fi first in 1982. They will not work properly plonked directly onto a concrete floor - no T/T will. The bit I've highlighted in bold is what happens to *any* turntable put on the floor, not just an LP12!

Richard is entitled to argue differently, based on his contrary experience, but this doesn't make it a fact any more than my opinion is on the matter

Marco.

[WikiBoy]

On the subject of 'supports' for an LP12, I've taken the liberty of copying this from pfm, from the official set-up manual:



Indeed; this is precisely what I've experienced whenever I've used an LP12, and I've owned about five different versions of them since I got into 'proper' hi-fi first in 1982. They will not work properly plonked directly onto a concrete floor - no T/T will.

Richard is entitled to argue differently, based on his contrary experience, but this doesn't make it a fact any more than my opinion is on the matter

Marco.

I have said no where that a concrete float was better than a stand, I have said no where that a Linn would not be better on a stand, I have said nowhere that a Mana system would not be better. I was simply countering your non sensical statements.

Anyway the owner of that LP12 uses a Townsend sysmic sink and that is designed to simulate a large mass earthing - like a 20 ton concrete float!

[Marco]

Usual bollocks and self seeking re-writing of the facts.

You should consider yourself honoured. I've learned this skill from the master himself - you!

I have said no where that a concrete float was better than a stand, I have said no where that a Linn would not be better on a stand, I have said nowhere that a Mana system would not be better. I was simply countering your non sensical statements.

No, but it's what your previous statements on the subject have *implied*. Would you like me to provide some direct quotes as evidence?

Oh and by the way, are you saying on a public forum that you can just replace someones avatar (I am already having my posts changed) to a Pink pig without my permission is acceptable - that is what you threatened - is that acceptable behaviour? It is not humour it is the usual bullying.

I didn't replace it though, did I? Has your avatar been changed? No. That's the difference! It was a joke. As Steve says, lighten up.

Your posts are being edited legitimately in line with our moderation procedure. If you insist on writing blinkered bullshit, then expect it to be removed.

For "bullying", look in the mirror. You are the bully-meister!! Bullies notoriously hate getting a taste of their own medicine. The difference is that here I won't let you get away with your bully-boy behaviour, as sometimes happens elsewhere, and you don't like it one bit. Well, too bad!

Now, I'm getting really tired of your continual argumentative nonsense. Anymore of it and you're out for a week. Stick to the hi-fi side of the discussion without getting personal, or nothing. Your call.

Marco.

[speakers-1989]

To the guys that went to Richard Dunn's house. How did his NVA cube speakers sound?