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  1. #191
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    Sure, lol, but I intend to nail the platter/mat thing when I'm there, and in that respect form a conclusion that satisifes me

    Therefore, I'll know then whether to stick with what I've got (Harmonicer/Achro/Funk) or sell it all and replace it with an ETP platter (with the possibility of retaining the mats).

    Btw, do you still prefer using the Stillpoints weight, now that the ETP is in the equation? I missed your conclusion on that one.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Preferences, surely?
    Orders, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Btw, do you still prefer using the Stillpoints weight, now that the ETP platter is in the equation? I missed your conclusion on that one.
    Yes I do, although it remains a subtle difference.

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    Is the subtle difference worth the outlay?

    Anyway, it'll be interesting comparing the low/lower-mass option (clone 'Clever Clamp'/Harmonicer mat/Achro/Funk platter) versus the high/higher mass option (Stillpoints weight and ETP platter), on the same test turntable (either yours, mine or Mike's)

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Orders, you mean?
    SHUT IT!!!!



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Is the subtle difference worth the outlay?
    On some kind of SPPV valuation, probably not.
    On an absolute scale, and as long as I didn't mind the cost, of course!

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    Fairy muff

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Just an update to say that I'm now in possession of Mark's beautifully made clone of the Clearaudio Clever-Clamp. Not only does it look superb, like an intricately designed jewel, but for some reason (and I believe Mark has some thoughts on the matter) it also sounds better!
    I realise this thread is about the MN platter, so I will not go on too much. The clamp isn't a clone as such because there are differences, but it does use the same principle to hold the record spindle (so is a copy in that respect). The Clearaudio is injection moulded (possibly from acrylic but likely a styrene) but mine is laser cut from cast acrylic sheet. I found that the specific dimensions (less than 0.1mm) made a big difference to how much force was required to fit the clamp and how much grip it exerted on the spindle. I found my measurements by making numerous samples but this may be one reason why it sounds different to the Clearaudio (which I have only seen in pictures). Secondly, my version is fabricated from three components and this makes it stiffer and better damped than a single injection moulding - this may, or may not, be relevant. Finally, because this design was made to compare against other designs I have done, the foot part that touches the record label was made the same dimensions and from the same material as my other clamps; this is still quite a hard plastic but softer than acrylic (and finished absolutely flat) - again, this may, or may not, be relevant.
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    Platter up-dates, stock now available from the UK (MCRU Towers to be exact), if you are contemplating this up-grade you will not be dis-appointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Anyway, it'll be interesting comparing the low/lower-mass option (clone 'Clever Clamp'/Harmonicer mat/Achro/Funk platter) versus the high/higher mass option (Stillpoints weight and ETP platter), on the same test turntable (either yours, mine or Mike's)
    Marco.
    Marco, don't know if you have mentioned about the comparison between the two options in the forum somewhere and I understand that you finally went for the ETP with no mat option. Could you elaborate regarding the differences? What I'd like to know is, was there any change/improvement when you placed Harmonicer on ETP platter?

    John

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