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    All equipment are compromising the reproduced sound.
    The difference from media to media, from source to source, from technology in use to ditto, from digital to analogue is with what characters and in what amount this compromise influence.

    Then some people dislike this or that character of compromise and some people tend to value sound quality from what this persons ears tend to like instead of valuing the reproduced sound as being as close as possible to the original, to the analog reference.

    A lot of hifi fora members (not only AOS) tend to judge sound quality unambiguous from the dynamic parameter, forgetting that dynamics is one of many known parameters to judge what we hear and certainly the known, defined and unit measurable parameters are just a fragment of the wholeness in which a lot of undefined parameters still remains the be acknowledged.

    High Fidelity, for us music enjoyers, must be a term explaining that reproduced music can create an illusion taking the listener to where the music was performed or fooling the listener to imagine the musicians playing the gig in the listening room.

    If it is not possible, within that imagination or illusion to pinpoint each musicians physical position on "the stage" then imagination/illusion is somehow ruined.

    A lot of parameters are defining this important part of the illusion.
    Dynamics is not the most importan one for this.

    On the bottom line, I believe that the understanding of this will only have a chance when the religion of data sheets, measurements and specifications are left behind.

    This is more about holism.

    "dolph"

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    On the bottom line, I believe that the understanding of this will only have a chance when the religion of data sheets, measurements and specifications are left behind.

    This is more about holism.
    How very true. I'm glad that you view science as a 'religion' when applied to audio. This is also my view, because that's exactly what it is: a 'religion'; and often a blinkered one at that. Science, in that effect, is often effectively used as a 'crutch'.

    The irony of how one can become a slave to scientific values, just as audiophiles are often a slave to the dogma that afflicts the pursuit of high-end audio, is often lost on objectivists!!

    Science in relation to audio unquestionably has a valid purpose, but it is far from being the be all and end all. One must look at the bigger picture.

    Apart from the Technics comment, Dolph, you're on a roll - keep it up!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    How very true. I'm glad that you view science as a 'religion' when applied to audio. This is also my view, because that's exactly what it is: a 'religion'; and often a blinkered one at that. It is often effectively used as a 'crutch'.

    The irony of how one can become a slave to scientific values, just as audiophiles are often a slave to the dogma that afflicts the pursuit of high-end audio, is often lost on objectivists!!

    Science in relation to audio unquestionably has a valid purpose, but it is far from being the be all and end all. One must look at the bigger picture.

    Apart from the Technics comment, Dolph, you're on a roll - keep it up!

    Marco.
    This is weird??

    Technics owners are known worldwide for buying their gear on spec's rather than sound.

    Feels a little like enjoying a picture of a great strawberry cake.


    Just joking now.
    Don't censor me.
    ;-)

    "dolph"

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    Yes, Dolph, but you should take two facts into consideration:

    1) I'm not your average 'Technics owner'.

    2) My turntable is not your average Technics.



    Never forget that...

    You have no chance of being censored, my friend!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Did you mean just the last bit about Tim, or the bit too about Technics T/Ts?

    Marco.
    just the bit below mate
    A...

    Anyway...................
    I wish freedom to speak (and write) were a little wider here.
    Tim didn't earn to be banned or censored - again IMO.
    Otherwise he will never get to experience the "magic" he mentioned in his last post.

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    So has anyone heard any good tapes recently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beechwoods View Post
    So has anyone heard any good tapes recently
    As a matter of fact, I'm right now listening to Sonny Rollins Live with a.o. NHØP recorded live in Copenhagen 1965 and never released for sale.
    It is, however, Open Reel 15 ips, ½-track.

    But earlier today I was listening to Bob Brookmeyer, a very cherised release, recorded from 200g vinyl with a Benz L2, RB700, Whest .20 on a modified Dunlop IV and recorded to Tandberg TCD 910 on Scotch Me tape.
    Doesn't get much better.

    In comparison, my Audio Analogue Paganini CDP could be used as a doorstop.
    ;-)

    "dolph"

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    hi all,
    reading through this thread and seeing where it has ended up yet again, i am at a loss,,, i have spent most of my life surounded by music, and electronics, but i have never, ever come close to thinking that i know everything there is to know about either,and even though i have my own views as to what makes a good system i hope i have been and always will be open minded enough to listen and learn by others experiences no matter what my initial thoughts are on the matter before hand. shame others seem to think they are above this, your not,you have just closed your mind to anything but your own opinions and therefore i feel you will have lost forever the ability to be wowed by anything un-expected in life for ever more.
    A...
    Last edited by anthonyTD; 21-06-2009 at 19:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyTD View Post
    hi all,
    reading through this thread and seeing where it has ended up yet again, i am at a loss,,, i have spent most of my life surounded by music, and electronics, but i have never, ever come close to thinking that i know everything there is to know about either,and even though i have my own views as to what makes a good system i hope i have been and always will be open minded enough to listen and learn by others experiences no matter what my initial thoughts are on the matter before hand. shame others seem to think they are above this, your not,you have just closed your mind to anything but your own opinions and therefore i feel you will have lost forever the ability to be wowed by anything un-expected in life for ever more.
    A...
    Confusing post.
    To me it seams pretty negative.

    But for whom was this post meant?

    "hi all" it says in the start.
    So have we all "closed our minds to anything but our own opinion"?
    Have we all "forever lost........................"?

    Maybe I'm wrong.
    I hope I am.
    And if so, please forgive me.
    I'm trying my best with the english language.

    Please enlighten me.

    "dolph"

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    Quote Originally Posted by niklasthedolphin View Post
    Confusing post.
    To me it seams pretty negative.

    But for whom was this post meant?

    "hi all" it says in the start.
    So have we all "closed our minds to anything but our own opinion"?
    Have we all "forever lost........................"?

    Maybe I'm wrong.
    I hope I am.
    And if so, please forgive me.
    I'm trying my best with the english language.

    Please enlighten me.

    "dolph"
    sorry dolph,
    you should,,, like most people here realise that this post is aimed at a very small minority who post on AOS, i do not include you among those,these people know who they are.
    A...
    Last edited by anthonyTD; 21-06-2009 at 19:46.

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