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  1. #11
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    Knowing ebay if you paid him £1000 and he sent you an empty box ebay would back him not you!

  2. #12
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    Any quality deck you buy - and it has been the case for 40 years at least. can be modified and/or improved - Vast majority of decks you have to choose an arm and a cart - for starters - detachable headshell? lots of them to choose from - platters? Even the old Systemdek IIX in the 'eighties came with a choice of glass or acrylic platters. Upgraded power supplies - AC to DC mods on the Gyrodec and others ... I'm never sure why anyone singles out the SL1210/1200 and says that it makes no sense to get one and improve it.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'm never sure why anyone singles out the SL1210/1200 and says that it makes no sense to get one and improve it.
    Indeed, Martin - it's a constant frustration of mine, as is the old chestnut of: 'why not just buy a better turntable in the first place?' If I have to explain it (yet) again, I'll top myself!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  4. #14
    Join Date: Aug 2009

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    A lot of people have only heard the deck stock - so it is understandable to an extent. The stock mat and headshell are the two immediate drawbacks. Change them, fit a quality cartridge, listen and then give your opinion. If you like what you hear you can mod on from there but you will already have a deck capable of holding its own against at least grand's worth (new) of the competition.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Spot on, dude!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    You can buy mine if ya like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed, Martin - it's a constant frustration of mine, as is the old chestnut of: 'why not just buy a better turntable in the first place?' If I have to explain it (yet) again, I'll top myself!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH




    Marco.
    G'wan then, explain it again then!
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

    Hunter S Thompson

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    I don't need a Techie. I've had a couple and done a bit of tinkering, but my chunky Toshiba SR-370 DD TT sounds just sublime!
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

  9. #19
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    Will stick with me JVC thanks

  10. #20
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    And I'll stick wiv me Garrard.
    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

    Hunter S Thompson

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