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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    Of these 5,000 people only 250 have been lucky enough to experience what the Bearing can actually do for the SL1200
    interesting eh, what are all the others doing?
    Hi Mike

    I use a 1200 and could happily afford your bearing but I have asked previously for some comparison measurements between a 1200 with the stock bearing and one with your bearing installed but got no response. I'm not suggesting that your bearing is not superior engineering, I would just like to see that demonstrated with something other than a subjective review. As I suggested then this might well lead to more sales being made. Now Dave MCRU is the vendor perhaps he might sort something out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Hi Mike

    I use a 1200 and could happily afford your bearing but I have asked previously for some comparison measurements between a 1200 with the stock bearing and one with your bearing installed but got no response. I'm not suggesting that your bearing is not superior engineering, I would just like to see that demonstrated with something other than a subjective review. As I suggested then this might well lead to more sales being made. Now Dave MCRU is the vendor perhaps he might sort something out?
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    Subjective:
    Hard to see the difference between a Toyota and a Mercedes?
    Having had a "bunch" of SP-10MkII, I rather prefer this (1210MkII & bearing).

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    My Yesteryears collection: (3,5 x SP-10 + SP-15)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Hi Mike

    I use a 1200 and could happily afford your bearing but I have asked previously for some comparison measurements between a 1200 with the stock bearing and one with your bearing installed but got no response. I'm not suggesting that your bearing is not superior engineering, I would just like to see that demonstrated with something other than a subjective review. As I suggested then this might well lead to more sales being made. Now Dave MCRU is the vendor perhaps he might sort something out?
    Here's a thought.
    I know David at MCRU has too much time on his hands
    How about he sets up a base, totally ordinary Tech, one with a MN bearing only and then a fully modded one
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    The problem with any comparison I.E. two identical set ups apart from the bearing............

    Is that the results depend on the listeners perception which may differ from yours.

    To set up actual measurements is inpractical because of the time and effort required and the huge amount of very expensive equipment.
    Could you even define the test criterion that should be adopted?

    You can rely on the basic material properties as a comparison and the differences in machining accuracy but would that mean much to anyone other than an engineer? And how do you translate that into acoustic properties?

    I'm afraid its not a very straight forward thing to prove to someone else.

    The ONLY way you are going to get a none subjective opinion is to hear identical set ups yourself and make your own mind up.

    As a rule of thumb you could compare the number of positive owner remarks compared with negative but it won't take long for someone to point out that those that have allready spent money on the product are less likely to critisise it, so you can't win.

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    Of the four million Techie's sold since the early seventies only approx 250 have the Mike New bearing.

    I totally agree with the statement about positive owner remarks, and along with the many issues about subjective testing means that there can be no winners to the discussion.

    I for one will decide to buy the bearing or not based on the availability of spare funds to experiment with. I found it very useful to be able to see and handle the bearing at the recent Whittlebury show, finding it beautifully engineered and in a different league to the stock item.
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    I found it very useful to be able to see and handle the bearing at the recent Whittlebury show, finding it beautifully engineered and in a different league to the stock item.


    I fondled it as we'll
    The bearing that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    I found it very useful to be able to see and handle the bearing at the recent Whittlebury show, finding it beautifully engineered and in a different league to the stock item.


    I fondled it as we'll
    The bearing that is
    Ooh! You are naughty.
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    AMPLIFIER: Bryston BR-20 Pre/DAC/Streamer & Bryston 4B3 Power Amplifier
    SPEAKERS: Spendor D7 on Iso-Acoustics Gaia Neo III’s
    HEADPHONES: OPPO PM-1 with Atlas Zeno cable, B&W Pi8.
    CABLES: Analogue: Speaker: Atlas Mavros Grun. Interconnect - Atlas Mavros XLR x3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    I found it very useful to be able to see and handle the bearing at the recent Whittlebury show, finding it beautifully engineered and in a different league to the stock item.


    I fondled it as we'll
    The bearing that is
    Rather than fondle the Bearing, why don't you put both hands around it and grab one for yourself!!!!!

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